For people like me (interested in context), the HISTORY is the MEAT. The hardware and the machining are fascinating and take us deeper into armaments...but weapons need purpose.
Right. That is the reason I am here. If I just wanted to see shooting, or just wanted some diagrams, I can find that. The history I can find too....after hours and hours of research. I will let Othias handle that, ha.
I mean, the rifles themselves started blurring together a long time ago. Fortunately the context/history helps to define each episode. If Othias was 'just' talking about the rifles, I probably wouldn't bother watching. XD
After having an 1891 Argentine for about a year and a half only halfway through this episode did I find out that the magazine was detachable. Thank you for showing that because I doubt I ever would have found out otherwise.
Also, if you want to see a rough rifle, my 1903 has 2 bolts holding the wrist together. As well as the broken sight slider. It has Kuomintang ownership marks so it probably saw service in both wars
C&Rsenal The borrowing of the guns I was aware of. Its good you’re propped up by the community so that we can enjoy and watch. In many cases this channel is probably the closest I’ll get to handling many of them.
@@tybushnell9819 If you'd like to handle some rare and authentic firearms, I've found there's two places you can do so, at gun shows, or WW1/WW2 reenactments if the owner is courteous and allows you to handle their firearms. Sometimes people will put out a table of rare and antique firearms (lugers, lebel rifles, berthiers, K98Ks, m1 carbines... everything) for people to look at and, when asked, touch.
GammaINC They don’t do a lot of reenacting where I’m from and even if they did it’s hard to find time to go. I do go to gun shows when I can but I tend to go with my father and we like not to travel to far.
These always trip me up in Verdun because Belgian squads aren't common, and they use the same sound effect as the German Mausers. So I'm minding my own business fighting the Boche, when suddenly I hear Mausers going off to one side of me - and freak out because holy crap the Germans flanked us and they're in our trench - and then it turns out it was the Belgians and my freaking out was unjustified, and a real German headshots me while I'm standing there like an idiot being scared of the Belgians.
The Gewehr 89 is fast becoming one of my new favorite rifles. It’s like 98 Without the langevizer sights and it feels less cumbersome as well. I like that the rifle is Paul Mauser’s middle finger to the German general staff for going behind his back and designing a new rifle->Gewehr 88, so he designs a new rifle for the Belgians to make the 88 obsolete.
Another awesome show! It's awesome how you've by now reached the point of doing regular full hour+ episodes... all the time! There's really always some more contextul unformation to fill these episodes and as a trained gymnasium (not sports related but protoacademic high school) history teacher I cant't help but love it to pieces! I'm always so annoyed when people simpliefy or use short cuts on context and you're one of the most, let's put it like this because it is, academically minded topical shows available out there! Many thanks for this bloody great show! Best regards Raoul G. Kunz
As we are rapidly closing in to the end of the Great War, I would be interested in both your's and Mae's top 10 and Bottom 10 firearms of the conflict.
Mauser was amazing in dialing in nitro/smokeless cartridge design from the get-go. 1889 and they had todays 7,62X51 NATO- .308 Win. plus or minus a couple mm. The 7mm and 8mm X 57mm still work great.
I love history as much as I love the mechanics, that go into these weapons so I love that you are going so deep into the progression of these weapons. Keep up the good work.
After all that missing-the-deadline angst, the video drops early. Well, I'm dropping early, too. I'll watch in the AM, and I hope you can get a good night's sleep, too.
I know it's years later, but I did order a book this year. One by a buddy of yours. Got two copies, one in each cover style. The purple one is what got me started, and the fact that the gray one was less popular meant I absolutely needed one of those too. Gotta have em all!
Why is this stuff so damn interesting? I could Nerd Out on C&Rsenal content for hours. I don't even collect or own any historical pieces. It's just entertaining!
Is it the engineering? Is it the History? Is it in the Hopes we'll see Mae? At this point, I'm not sure; but the recipe.is working... And thanks for the Book Review, I think this is totally something I would like to have in my Library.
Perhaps it is because I am Belgian myself, but i am often interested more by those quirky designs that did not make it, like that Liègoise rifle, than the victors.
Have to comment twice this time around. I have good reason to expect another Gewehr 98 episode yes? At least you certainly make it seem like that will be the case throughout this one. Really hoping for round 2 of my favorite rifle, and that someday after the Great War you’ll get to my second favorite, the Swedish 96. Cheers on your great work as always!
what i think makes it look outsized, the single stack mag sticking out with that spur on the front, the elongated receiver ring, the barrel band being so for up the barrel, and of course, the jacket.
Thank you for Covering off FN and Belgian Arms inturstary, This gun sound Like Australian Used on Lee-Enfield SMLE III Which was war gun Used in Korea 1950's
I'm sure people have suggested this before but perhaps u should put a subtitle on screen for some of those hard to pronounce (espesially french) words.
Great episode on this rifle I've seen mentioned a lot in Mauser overall history but not specific info. Just a further note when I tried to watch this on the main site it was blocked for some reason.
Was that shirt a Belgian secret weapon. Blinding the enemy during a bayonet charge? Also loved the t shirt extras. Going to put the c&r sticker on my work laptop. Not sure what I am going to do with the Crozier hearts blueberries sticker.
At 8:45 you say "Belguim has been fishing around at a somewhat leisurely pace for a new rifle since 1880" I just acquired a Mauser 71 that's been scrubbed of German markings but has several standard Liege stamps. Is there a chance this was a trials rifle dating to that time period?
In the images around 50:00 the Belgians seem to be gripping the guns right up against the magazine. Almost as if the curve on the front was a grip. Can't tell if this would solve the 'drifting fore and aft' issue that Othais and Mae were both concerned with.
Love the show, friends. Keep up the good work. I am hoping to become a Patreon patron just as soon as I can. Which means no bad-mouthing the guns I like. ;-)
Just a question concerning the loading at 40:00: it looked not really that smooth, was that because of something worn or just because it was one of the first stripperclip designs?
So we are at episode 86 and I have a question for Mae: in your firing scenes, have you ever put the safety on and have it fail when you pull the trigger on the test?
Did anyone do field mods to address the lack of grip on the gun? Perhaps some cord wrapped around the wrist or forestock to add grip? Were they using the sling to make the hold more secure?
Ordered my shirt aug 29th, got it today. I think we swamped the shirt guy. Came with a neeto C&Rsenal sticker and a guinea pig sticker. Will do again next year.
A little history, Paul Mauser learned his trade in Belgium 3 years, at FN Herstal, if you do not think you are doing research, then he returned to Germany to do a manufacture with his brother, he was always close to Belgium and FN Herstal.
I have a question about the 1891 Argentine Mauser. I got it in a pawnshop about five years ago. It is all numbers matching in all areas, except it is missing the ramrod. It shoots very well . Also as you were talking about the grinding of that crest on the top .. In the marching numbers , the beginning letter is an "L" . Thank you and all connected ro the production of the videos.
Could we get a video on the gun room? Curious on what guns you have in the room and also curious if there is small details in the room that we miss in each episode.
Considering ergonomics: Why don´t you take your grip with the left hand at the barrel band? This will give you a better grasp as well as a more stable stance in terms of geometry!
Unfortunately I was not able to be awake when this was uploaded. I feel bad for this, but it's okay because I can just watch it now. This gun kicks ass in the game Verdun. I love this gun. And you can't beat that look. Edit I have an old model 1893 mauser, and I can see some similarity to this design in my own. This Belgian one doesn't have the big claw extractor arm on the side of the bolt yet. I hope you talk about that if and when you get to the model 1893, other than that the receiver design looks pretty similar. The angled cut is there.
It's actually quite amazing that there is an hour-long video about the obscure ww1 service rifle my country used in the first world war. Thank you!
I just wanna say, I love your name. One of my favorite movies
but Nigel Farage said "...belgium is pretty much a non country..."
@@mikehoare6093 Farage is a liar too. That has clearly been proved after Brexit.
For people like me (interested in context), the HISTORY is the MEAT. The hardware and the machining are fascinating and take us deeper into armaments...but weapons need purpose.
Right. That is the reason I am here. If I just wanted to see shooting, or just wanted some diagrams, I can find that. The history I can find too....after hours and hours of research. I will let Othias handle that, ha.
I wish there was a playlist of a version without the shooting part. Can't watch these at night, the shooting part keeps waking me up.
"oh yes. here we are" casually pulls rifle from THE WALL OF GUNS. I love this show.
What? I dont see any guardsmen anywhere
Its the ultimate form of library
I will never complain about “too much context”. Context is exactly the reason I love this channel.
Never going to complain about more Mausers! Thanks for giving me something to watch after work over my midnight dinner guys
I love von Spee!
I mean, the rifles themselves started blurring together a long time ago. Fortunately the context/history helps to define each episode.
If Othias was 'just' talking about the rifles, I probably wouldn't bother watching. XD
"History is alive. Get out and do your own work. It's beautiful." Othias, 2018. Added to my list of quotable quotes. Thank you!
After having an 1891 Argentine for about a year and a half only halfway through this episode did I find out that the magazine was detachable. Thank you for showing that because I doubt I ever would have found out otherwise.
Who else comes here just for the history at the start of the video? I like the rest, but Othais storytelling is just a joy to hear.
Also, if you want to see a rough rifle, my 1903 has 2 bolts holding the wrist together. As well as the broken sight slider. It has Kuomintang ownership marks so it probably saw service in both wars
Three episodes arc... And Othias in a bright pink shirt? Sign me up!
I'm surprised to see you commenting on something other than a RCR video lmao
I am all over the place!
Another great clip of Mae enjoying herself with a sweet smile after the fact.
I wish I could afford the books let alone some of the guns C&Rsenal uses.
Patreon allows us to afford the books. We borrow the guns.
C&Rsenal The borrowing of the guns I was aware of. Its good you’re propped up by the community so that we can enjoy and watch. In many cases this channel is probably the closest I’ll get to handling many of them.
@@tybushnell9819 If you'd like to handle some rare and authentic firearms, I've found there's two places you can do so, at gun shows, or WW1/WW2 reenactments if the owner is courteous and allows you to handle their firearms. Sometimes people will put out a table of rare and antique firearms (lugers, lebel rifles, berthiers, K98Ks, m1 carbines... everything) for people to look at and, when asked, touch.
GammaINC They don’t do a lot of reenacting where I’m from and even if they did it’s hard to find time to go. I do go to gun shows when I can but I tend to go with my father and we like not to travel to far.
@@Candrsenal
Please enable Persian subtitles in all your videos
These always trip me up in Verdun because Belgian squads aren't common, and they use the same sound effect as the German Mausers. So I'm minding my own business fighting the Boche, when suddenly I hear Mausers going off to one side of me - and freak out because holy crap the Germans flanked us and they're in our trench - and then it turns out it was the Belgians and my freaking out was unjustified, and a real German headshots me while I'm standing there like an idiot being scared of the Belgians.
I know the feel, but as someone who always plays German I get extremely confused when it says I get shot by a “Gew. 89”
I'm so used to seeing Tommies and Americans on the US servers, that the blue uniforms of the French make me panic if I come upon them suddenly.
Sorry for scaring you
Even the carbine sound the same
The Gewehr 89 is fast becoming one of my new favorite rifles. It’s like 98 Without the langevizer sights and it feels less cumbersome as well. I like that the rifle is Paul Mauser’s middle finger to the German general staff for going behind his back and designing a new rifle->Gewehr 88, so he designs a new rifle for the Belgians to make the 88 obsolete.
For the record, the premier mode thingy is really neat. It spurs some good, live conversation.
Another awesome show!
It's awesome how you've by now reached the point of doing regular full hour+ episodes... all the time!
There's really always some more contextul unformation to fill these episodes and as a trained gymnasium (not sports related but protoacademic high school) history teacher I cant't help but love it to pieces!
I'm always so annoyed when people simpliefy or use short cuts on context and you're one of the most, let's put it like this because it is, academically minded topical shows available out there!
Many thanks for this bloody great show!
Best regards
Raoul G. Kunz
Promise us you will upload the next episode in the morning next time. Love the channel.
As we are rapidly closing in to the end of the Great War, I would be interested in both your's and Mae's top 10 and Bottom 10 firearms of the conflict.
Craig L. Young I remember that they said a while back that they had a list of 135 guns that they intended to cover for the Great War.
Mauser was amazing in dialing in nitro/smokeless cartridge design from the get-go. 1889 and they had todays 7,62X51 NATO- .308 Win. plus or minus a couple mm. The 7mm and 8mm X 57mm still work great.
I like to call the Gewehr 88 the gun that made Mauser.....
So bloody furious that he gave so many countries guns that could beat it.
Once again C&Rsenal ruins my sleep pattern! Haha keep up the amazing content
Just got my shirt in the mail today! Keep up the great work, guys!
34:55 Ah yes, the US government issue copper plated Abraham Lincoln commemorative universal bolt disassembly tool.
Ah yes, tho could forget the classic U.S.I.C.P.A.L.C.U.B.D.T. My dad still has his from basic training.
@@tomandkathycook8564 sounds like some acronym the DI would make you memorize and grill you when you mess it up lol
The belgians had dog mounted machine guns? Belgium has the best kind of weird.
Dog towed on a little carriage, like an artillery piece. Not like the Russian machine gun bear meme.
Indeed, not mounted ON the dogs, but drawn by them. Like horse drawn artillery. In this case, dog drawn machine guns.
yes and flying monkeys with grenades🙄
you should have seen the dogs with a 37mm canon mounted ;-)
@@johan4105 *Insert green-skinned evil witch here
I love history as much as I love the mechanics, that go into these weapons so I love that you are going so deep into the progression of these weapons. Keep up the good work.
After all that missing-the-deadline angst, the video drops early. Well, I'm dropping early, too. I'll watch in the AM, and I hope you can get a good night's sleep, too.
I've now watched the video. Alert is a good thing. And thank you, for what y'all do.
I know it's years later, but I did order a book this year. One by a buddy of yours. Got two copies, one in each cover style. The purple one is what got me started, and the fact that the gray one was less popular meant I absolutely needed one of those too. Gotta have em all!
Why is this stuff so damn interesting? I could Nerd Out on C&Rsenal content for hours. I don't even collect or own any historical pieces. It's just entertaining!
Is it the engineering? Is it the History? Is it in the Hopes we'll see Mae? At this point, I'm not sure; but the recipe.is working...
And thanks for the Book Review, I think this is totally something I would like to have in my Library.
Perhaps it is because I am Belgian myself, but i am often interested more by those quirky designs that did not make it, like that Liègoise rifle, than the victors.
Ian at Forgotten Weapons has done a video on that trials pattern rifle, if you aren't aware already.
That's pretty detail information about this new rifle for me.
+1 on Mauser love, and it was interesting to see the differences between the 1889 Belgian and the Lowe-produced 1891 Argentine.
A new pleasure! A new pleasure!
Have to comment twice this time around. I have good reason to expect another Gewehr 98 episode yes? At least you certainly make it seem like that will be the case throughout this one. Really hoping for round 2 of my favorite rifle, and that someday after the Great War you’ll get to my second favorite, the Swedish 96. Cheers on your great work as always!
Fun stuff. As always, thanks for creating a quality video archive of the personal weapons of war.
Funny how you can see the cleaning rod sliding around from recoil during Mae’s firing segment.
The real meat of your episode is the amazing history you do keep doing your great work.
Yeah, my 1891 Argentine Mauser bolt sucks to disassemble. Looking forward to South American Mauser videos.
what i think makes it look outsized, the single stack mag sticking out with that spur on the front, the elongated receiver ring, the barrel band being so for up the barrel, and of course, the jacket.
Got to watch it all...great episode....looking forward to 2 & 3.
You are so right about Vanderlinden's FN book.
I got the two T-shirts I ordered yesterday. THANK YOU! Geoff Who notes "God save the King" in red of course.
What is sleep
I love this channel because of that reason. good for sleep, sweetest asmr for me.
Indeed, Just when I had given up on my first time trying to run a PC-98 Emulator, this shows up!.... :)
What is love?
It’s what I do when I watch these, eventually I’ll see all of it in about 2 weeks. I still love them though.
Phillip Block he’s saying that cause they uploaded this episode at like 11pm central time and then stayed up to watch it
That Vanderlinden book is very good! I have the one on pistols too!
Been waiting for this one, thanks guys
Anthony Vanderlinden does great work, and he is a very nice guy.
Thank you for Covering off FN and Belgian Arms inturstary, This gun sound Like Australian Used on Lee-Enfield SMLE III Which was war gun Used in Korea 1950's
Another great video. Looking forward to part II.
Cant wait for WW2, really want to see the Belgian 89/36
Potatoes? These episodes are all meat, I've found no carbs in them yet. Thanks to the whole crew, I can't wait for part two and three.
When you were talking about unusual funding, I had vision ofthe two of you being dressed as Bonnie and Clyde.....
That bolt is *almost* as simple as I used to think they all were, before I started watching Ian last year.
I'm sure people have suggested this before but perhaps u should put a subtitle on screen for some of those hard to pronounce (espesially french) words.
My favorite 7.65 x 53 was a Win 70. It was NIB until I got it as a birthday present that was 12 years older than me...
"Herchtal" x) The way you said it cracked me up :p
Great episode on this rifle I've seen mentioned a lot in Mauser overall history but not specific info. Just a further note when I tried to watch this on the main site it was blocked for some reason.
FYI Liberty Tree Collectors has the old style 1891 Argentine clips, not the 1909 ones, for $14 for 3 clips
M.A.E...
Illuminati confirmed!
Was that shirt a Belgian secret weapon. Blinding the enemy during a bayonet charge?
Also loved the t shirt extras. Going to put the c&r sticker on my work laptop. Not sure what I am going to do with the Crozier hearts blueberries sticker.
At 8:45 you say "Belguim has been fishing around at a somewhat leisurely pace for a new rifle since 1880"
I just acquired a Mauser 71 that's been scrubbed of German markings but has several standard Liege stamps. Is there a chance this was a trials rifle dating to that time period?
My shirts have arrived! P,S, Crozier looks adorable on my Xbox.
Question: how rare are the Hopkins and Allen 1914 contract Carbines? I'm looking at buying one for sale near me
Best show on youtube 👍
Wood 🎉5 years later and this show is still the bee's knees ❤
"Paul Mauser eye-incident" - well that's Mae's halloween costume sorted...
:-)
That FN 1900 in the background...
Wah-who!!! You taught me how to take the magazine out of my 1891 Argentine. Thanks
As a Belgian, I feel actually educated ^^. Thanks!
Well said !
In the images around 50:00 the Belgians seem to be gripping the guns right up against the magazine. Almost as if the curve on the front was a grip. Can't tell if this would solve the 'drifting fore and aft' issue that Othais and Mae were both concerned with.
Love the show, friends. Keep up the good work. I am hoping to become a Patreon patron just as soon as I can. Which means no bad-mouthing the guns I like. ;-)
Thank you for your work
These videos are very good
Just a question concerning the loading at 40:00: it looked not really that smooth, was that because of something worn or just because it was one of the first stripperclip designs?
Dang! I got to get up early....tomorow I will soak up the knowledge.
Nice show! TY!
So we are at episode 86 and I have a question for Mae: in your firing scenes, have you ever put the safety on and have it fail when you pull the trigger on the test?
All equipment passes a bench test prior to Mae rolling a fingerprint. We don't like range surprises
Did anyone do field mods to address the lack of grip on the gun? Perhaps some cord wrapped around the wrist or forestock to add grip? Were they using the sling to make the hold more secure?
Ive seen Ian's video on the Liegoise...damn that rifle was beautiful.
Awesome work guys!
I'm just gonna slip and slide everywhere on this guy.
Mae,2018
Once again: Excellent!
Ordered my shirt aug 29th, got it today. I think we swamped the shirt guy. Came with a neeto C&Rsenal sticker and a guinea pig sticker. Will do again next year.
Man I love these old milsurps! Much more interesting than modern weapons
For a rifle to be 140+ years old and still function is a feat of engineering. The really did build things to last back then.
excellent videos
Got my shirts today. 👍 Thanks guys
A little history, Paul Mauser learned his trade in Belgium 3 years, at FN Herstal, if you do not think you are doing research, then he returned to Germany to do a manufacture with his brother, he was always close to Belgium and FN Herstal.
FN was created to make the 1889. Paul Mauser had a rifle designed in 1871...
I have a question about the 1891 Argentine Mauser. I got it in a pawnshop about five years ago.
It is all numbers matching in all areas, except it is missing the ramrod. It shoots very well .
Also as you were talking about the grinding of that crest on the top .. In the marching numbers , the beginning letter is an "L" . Thank you and all connected ro the production of the videos.
17:20 "governments didn't like spending money back then" ...'cause it was all denominated in gold, and thus very much fixed in quantity.
Do I see another FN rifle with a barrel jacket in the background?
YES FINALLY THANK YOU OTHAIS!!!
Could we get a video on the gun room? Curious on what guns you have in the room and also curious if there is small details in the room that we miss in each episode.
So the belgians are to the french like the swiss are to the germans? Kind of similar except REALLY good with guns?
I can’t decide if that shirt is more “frat star Othias” or “Persian nightclub owner Othias”
Big Fan of Mae !!
I wonder what Belgian shooting competitions were like at the time. Could be kind of cool recreating them with surplus guns.
Considering ergonomics: Why don´t you take your grip with the left hand at the barrel band? This will give you a better grasp as well as a more stable stance in terms of geometry!
Awesome shirt. Great episode
Lol i tried to watch this last night but I kept dozing off. Had to rewatch to make sure i actually retained some information.
I love that Leopold II was older than Leopold.
He did come later.
Unfortunately I was not able to be awake when this was uploaded. I feel bad for this, but it's okay because I can just watch it now.
This gun kicks ass in the game Verdun. I love this gun. And you can't beat that look.
Edit
I have an old model 1893 mauser, and I can see some similarity to this design in my own. This Belgian one doesn't have the big claw extractor arm on the side of the bolt yet. I hope you talk about that if and when you get to the model 1893, other than that the receiver design looks pretty similar. The angled cut is there.
People complain about the deap dive history lessons? That's why I watch this channel lol