These drag races are so frustrating. Sam can’t drive a manual. Or launch. There is no coordination between drivers. No one can come to a reasonable conclusion from these races. This channel has so much potential but falls short every time.
and he always seem to like the crackle and pop sounds better. Even when they are NOT good sounding engines at all. Like in this video. The Subaru sounds worst. you hear accessories more than than boxer bromp its know for. then the hyundai that crackles and pop but doesnt sound like a long lasting engine. The engine is pushed to the limit of its thin alu block. then the Honda. Somehow New Hondas crackle and pop aplenty and are still good af cars but they lost so much character it was known for. Then the GR is the best sounding with plenty of character although IT IS ODD SOUNDING! But it sounds solid! and if you understand ICE scaling technicalities it is the most overbuilt engine of the bunch and it sounds like it. Especially between 4k and 6.5k where it sounds somehow like a Cummins Diesel which always makes me smile. And it is the most analog car of the bunch. Everything about it feels like a rally spec restomod four door hatch. its not about how nice the interior or how fast on a 1/4 its about "smiles per curves"
@@CG-yh6jsDang. Just be glad we get this content. And also owners are driving their own cars here , so I think they do pretty good most of the time. But I do agree about the sound of the subaru. Oh well just give me a bug eye!
@@SamCarLegionhe meant bad dude, we’re u guys scared to break it or something? Idk if you know but the corolla 60ft time is lightning speed and would be in front of everyone’s bumper at the start
I do, his 1-2 , 2-3 and 3-4 shifts are soooooo slowwwww. The car stops all forward movement for half a second or more, each shift. Not to mention, anyone with a 2023 or older N has upgraded their transmission bushings by now
One thing about Honda vehicles that seems to be a recurring thing is that when it comes to their 6 cylinder engines, they seem to be mid to low in class as far as output, hence the TLX Type S, MDX Type S and Pilot. They are all out gunned by their competition classmates. But when it comes to their 4 cylinders, they seem to always be best in class, hence the civic Type R and Integra Type S.
@@RunEmDownTony the MDX Type S beat the GV80 twin-turbo and TX500h F-performance on Sam's channel. And the TLX Type S beat the C43 AMG and M340i's lap times at MotorTrend.
@@aymanal_jahwari9148the only Type S that is overweight is the TLX. The MDX Type S is lighter than its competition, same story with the Integra Type S.
Let me start by saying that the DE5 is fantastic. I have one. Test drove every car in this video. The only thing that surprised me is that during the drag race. Both AWD cars didn’t have a greater lead than the one we saw in the video.
13.9 quarter from the WRX is pretty much what the car sites tested it at. These are privately owned vehicles so I doubt the owners are willing to take the risk of a high rpm clutch drop.
Agreed! Im a Honda guy but kudos to Toyota for making that move. Honda should have offered a Civic Touring/Integra Advance version with the 10AT. (even a 2.0T from the old Accord would do just fine)
Yeah the Hyundai is great. We get the i30N Hatch here and its the best looking, best sounding car of that line up by far, no contest and more power than the Elantra. The Honda is way too expensive and its not really a hatchback, its a fastback. The GR was also poor value for money here and that's before the engines starting blowing up and now they are catching fire.
@@speeddemonRS3 I get it, but im speaking for how good a value it is, and pit it against them on a track, then let's see how good the Elantra N stacks up
@@speeddemonRS3 I could have bought a Porsche 718 but I still bought an i30N. The i30N is 75% as good as the Porsche and far more practical but over here the Porsche costs four times more than the i30N and it doesn't even come with forged alloys. You just cannot justify the cost of a Euro car over here....except the i30N is also made in Europe for our market. Albert Biermann is a genius, he designed a car that's one out of the box and not a conservative Japanese car.
You can easily get the base model for $32k. The TR has Brembos, Recaros, better suspension and wheels. I’ll bet on a road course it comes in 1st or 2nd.
I wonder how the EN DCT+NGS gonna do. And I wonder if the manual version EN did octane learn. I just noticed the EN that Sam tested is before 2024 model year.
Why do EN owners say this every time it doesn’t win lol. Sam made this video 100% apples to apples as far as manuals. Surprised I haven’t seen an octane learned comments yet.
@@TheHybridQ50Sthat’s bc they know the result manual vs manual type r will win every time dct is a different story type r will loose everytime but its not a fair race
Why? It’s got around the same amount of HP as the other cars and weighs about the same as the others. Oh and it lost. Not sure why you’re so surprised how fast it is lol
Incredible video! All of those cars are amazing! I traded my 2019 fk8 type R a year and a half ago for a 2023 Civic Type R FL5! I like it better than my Fk8 a lot! It’s all around in my opinion a better car than the FK8! It’s hard to explain how good it is until somebody has driven one! Prior to my Type R’s I owners 4 different generations and mid model upgraded Civic Si’s! I’m a big Honda fan but all of the cars in this video are great! I would love to experience how each one drives! Keep up the great content! 😃👍🙏🏼🚙
Elantra N should still be using an Automatic because it’s already an unfair race when it has a lot less horsepower and no AWD than the competition Sam come on now.
@SeudXe It's been proven on a dyno the elantra n has 276hp at the wheels not at the crank . So it's closer to 300bhp not 276 and should have the advantage over the others in a roll race. Either the driver didn't octane learn before the race as 4 psi would make big difference or they can't drive a manual to save themselves.
I think Sam posted the CAD conversation price. The DE5 starts at around 51,000 CAD, so when you convert it to USD, it is just shy of 38,000 USD. But yes, in the US it starts around 52,000 USD.
Bro there are various test between the N,GR and the type R even with the DCT, the N still looses to the GR and type R, the only upside is that the DCT N stays with the GR and the type R to 60, but after 60 it gets dropped, there are videos online to prove my point@@tyhyhh
Glad I’m not the only one to notice this, those were not good launches. If I recall correctly they couldn’t launch the other GR they had in their channel from another video either.
@@Jeyxero I was actually theyre that day, I brought the type r to the drag stop for a media friend, I have a corolla myself so I didn’t want to drive the car before I got mine(2 months after that), yes your correct no one could launch but no one revved high enough, the surface is rough tho for the diff None the less, u spin the corolla to 5+ k and it spins all tires for over 40 feet, it’s rapid
@@jdmbren13 I haven’t done many launches on mine but 60/40 was quite the pull when I managed to do it right. Other cars in the video have their strengths too imo
Im here for the Elantra N! Was is octane learned? EDIT: WHY IS IT NOT A 2024 DCT AUTO!!!???? I would like to see a 2024 DCT Hyundai Elantra N race a manual Elantra N You can clearly see the Hyundai driver is very slow to shift through the gears. The shift pause is crazy long
@@johnnyturbo8460 lets agree that the elantra besides the fact that i comes in manual, is made for the dct, im all for #savethemanuals but lets see some real speed with the best the elantra has
@@fib4923 Says the guy who can't afford a Nissan Leaf, how pathetic! And dear no-one, what are your statements about the GR Corollas blowing their engines? Oh right, you're a damn no-life, brand snob.
He's holding down the clutch like he's driving in eco, in sport all the grc needs in a tap. Dudes slow af. I understand not wanting to wear the clutch, but dudes racing, what else did he want.
As a DCT EN owner, I’m sad that I’ll probably never get to see how my car stacks up against these. I understand the transmission fairness argument blaaah blaaah, but I think it would be very interesting to see how the DCT stacks up anyway. Why is that so hard?
That’s what I am saying. I know they’ll probably never post one octane learned as well, but it’s much faster. I’ve only raced M340s, 5th gen camaro SS, civic Si, manual Ns, BMW 330is, audi s4 8.5. Here are results from a 40 roll. M340(some bolt ons tune disabled): 40-65/70 was pretty much even but he beat me afterwards. 1.5-2 cars at 120+ lol. 5th gen SS manual (cammed no tune): I lost by a car length at about 100/110 from a 40 roll. Civic Si: I didn’t even have to be octane learned, buddy was just hyped to roll race haha(me too🤣). 23 330i xdrive: dig he launched faster but after i stopped spinning and hit 2nd gear I caught up and beat him by 2 cars at 80/90 mph. Roll race from 40 to 100-105 i beat him by 3+ cars. S4 8.5(stock): I beat by a car length, was a 40 roll. Manual N: 40-110 i beat by about 2 cars.
Is quite annoying, dct owner as well and completely get the manual for fairness but how many years need to go by before it’s justified to start seeing the dct from the yt community doing these races. after all it is just a race, we just want to know what matchups win against what matchups
Hey dude. I'm the EN owner on Jvettes channel. Gonna get some races with me against some of these cars soon. WRX is slower than EN DCT, same with GR Corolla. Type S is close but like half a car with a very good driver. Type R is worse than Type S
When I came onto YT this morning several channels I subscribed to popped up with new videos. This was the first one I watched. One of the other ones had a Ferrari vs. several Audis. Sam's channel features cars the vast majority of people can afford which makes it, to me anyways, much more interesting.
I just got my WRX. You can't find a GR, Type S, or Type R; if you can, they are selling with twice the interest rate, and Type R is all $5000 over sticker. I got $2000 off and 3.9%. I would love to see one of these with the WRX having an AP and intake. It would help level the playing field for the price difference.
These results are pretty much spot-on for what I expected. The FWD cars dominate the roll races, and the AWD cars get the dig on FWD but are caught up by the Type S's superior power to weight ratio. I only wish the Type S could be 38k in the US lol
@@Wind_slash0nah I agree. The Acura Integra looks the best out of all these. Price wise though I would rather go with the Elantra and I love Hondas. Just can’t justify paying $52k or actually probably more like $56k after all fees
"The GR Corolla is too small to fit two bigger people" claim is crazy😅 I commute in a GR Corolla everyday and carpool with a friend who is also 6' tall and we do construction so we have coolers and everything else.. No issues with space even with the occasional third person. Just an FYI for all those interested in the GRC.
@@nmode22 same could be said for the WRX, and the base starts at just under 33k(US) with the same engine and AWD system. Both cars are great, I only wish the N had been more of an option here in Canada where it is priced higher in comparison to the WRX than in the US.
You know what's even more insane? My 23 base WRX being 28K OTD. I could literally spend 2-3K and be close to 400 whp and still have a few grand to play with being cheaper than the MSRP of the EN and GRC 😮
Gotta love the lineup and the work you guys did to make this race happen. Plus we have to consider the cars are not yours so even though you "push them" to a racing scenario you dont run them like its a win or break them down.
Wow, this was a cool battle. I'd also have to go with the Acura Type S but they are probably impossible to buy at MSRP. Something about the Toyota GR rear funky rear fenders look really awkward and odd to me. It's crazy how much you can save on the WRX in Canada. That's a 7K difference if you buy it in Canada vs US. I would imagine you could probably actually go in and buy the WRX and the Elantra for MSRP. I doubt it for the other two. The actual availability of these cars at MSRP is actually a HUGE factor for people considering a new car. Keep em coming Sam!
cope with a tune or weather conditions.. the only thing that makes AWD good in "all weather" is power to the front wheels... lets be honest. honda has been king
@lemon_sharxx WRX powers all 4 wheels 24/7. Lol Well not just that if you want to rally you want to AWD. If you want to make big power you want AWD or RWD. FWD even Honda built is gonna turn into wheel hop city after a certain point.
@@its.Andy1 I’d love to see that tbh. No bolt ons (or just simple ones like and intake) plus a tune. Guarantee the wrx would come in 1st or second every race
I love my 2022 WRX limited. Such a great car. And this is coming from someone who's previous daily was a 2017 STI. The VB WRX is just fantastic to drive. Grip for days. Yeah I would like a GR Corolla too, but not for 10-15k more and I prefer the interior on the WRX
Nobody wants a 34k front wheel drive Hyundai to win from a roll or a even possibly a dig against cars either AWD or are 42-62k out the door... if they want to talk about how crazy the automatic GR corolla will be then why can't we express the fact that the DCT Elantra N is bonkers
@@popsandbangs8858 it would still get beaten by the GR Corolla, I saw your previous comment stating it runs 12.9sec stock 🤡, in actually runs 13s and it isn't even as fast to 60 as the manual GR Corolla
@@Investor_philips the manual elantra N shits on gr corolla on a track. Go watch savageguesse video where he compared all of them on a track using a pro driver and same tires on all vehicles
It makes sense the power to weight ratio alone the Integra is the lightest car of the 4 and has the most HP and torque. You have to have a couple years driving a FWD with 6 speed manual under your belt before you can master a launch, and what you learned starts over again with new tires. It's all in the clutch release - a little bit of riding the clurch on launch can make the difference. Check out the Bisimoto Odyssey with 1,000 HP, it has a 0-60 time of 3.4 seconds. Shifting from 1st to 2nd in the Integra Type-S has to be right at redline, gearing is not as forgiving as the rest of the gears.
Exactly why I changed my mind after test driving a type s . That power is no good if u can't put it on the pavement. It's already crossed the threshold so why even bother with mods that don't help it hook?
@@SamCarLegion All cars seemed to be running pretty good ,, I think some people were hurt by seeing the Integra Type S whooping the vehicle they own 🤣🤣🤣.
Wow, love it, love the cars, love the content. It’s great!!! All of these cars are serious contenders Acura really stepping back into the competition. At our track it gave the Honda Type R some issues.
Both the WRX and the GR Corolla do a poor job launching in this video, but Sam did an earlier video where he figured out the GRolla launch properly and the 6-speed WRX and the GRolla were closer in the launch. Neither could beat the Type R (same as Type S) in the drag, but it was close.
EN is the best car by far. Driver mod is a thing, not octane learned which is a big bump in boost for these, Canadian spec is heavier and less rigid than US for those watching, and the price difference is HUGE. If you did the wet DCT fanboys would cry it is unfair even though it would still be much lower in price than the others still. It can also do what these cars are made for (laps on a road course or circuit) without issues the others will face. They did an incredible job with them.
Can't wait to hear all the comments about how the Elantra N should've been the DCT. 😂 If you have to have an advantage, and can't be on equal grounds to win a race then that's a problem. As a VN owner I love all the N cars, but the coping that comes from EN owners is horrendous. Plus these are all track focused vehicles, so putting so much weight on their straight line performance is dumb and counterproductive to their actual purpose.
What…? The WRX and GRC have AWD advantage, and the GRC and ITS have a HP advantage. It’s totally fair to even the playing field with the EN DCT. Plus, in the real world on the street or track, nobody makes excuses like that. If a EN DCT beats these cars in a roll on the street or drag strip, it’s a W fair and square. Plus, it’s just interesting to see different matchups. It’s not a complicated concept
@@CTF33 AWD only has an advantage from a dead stop, and is actually a disadvantage when getting roll racing due to higher drivetrain loss. And saying that the other cars have more horsepower is not valid enough. Plenty of other cars have more horsepower than the N cars and yet we win.
@@Symphoniics AWD only has an advantage from a dead stop, and is actually a disadvantage when getting roll racing due to higher drivetrain loss. From personal experience EN owners are the ones making that excuse, I've seen it too many times. And yes a W is a W, but it's not entirely fair when that W only happens because you needed the advantage of an automatic. And I'm aware that it's interesting to see different results which is why I watched the video, and no shit that it's not a complicated concept, but without fail there will always be at least one EN owner complaining about not having the DCT.
@@lllll981 It is correct that AWD is only an advantage from a dig. That’s why the EN 6MT beat the WRX from a roll (EN also has a bit more HP) but lost to it from a dig. AWD also led the GRC to beat the EN 6MT from a dig but the GRC also has the extra power which is why it edged out the EN 6MT from a roll. GRC has the advantage from a dig and a roll due to AWD and HP respectively. The EN DCT levels the playing field.
Everyone saying theyre All manual its fair, yet not switching drivers and FWD vs AWD cars... Totally fair. Its interesting but yall take these as gospel.... And if you know basic car stuff you knoq capable FWD cars are in roll races against AWD cars, and AWD of course wins majority in digs its not rocket science... Is what it is tho these videos on this channel are very weird sometimes
@@OOOnanana I have a 23 wrx for a daily. I have an intake, turbo back exhaust, and a top mount on an e85 tune putting out 370 whp. It cost me about 5k to get where I am. I got the car for 32500. Keeps up with my r8 to 60.
@@brhardi48326 my last build was reliable. Regardless I could afford to short block the car if I had to. 5k is nothing. My r8 exhaust was 8k alone. Never mind the tune the wrap all the powder coating and stuff.
@@GildedEmeraldThe EN is the hardest to launch. Car and Driver got a faster time with the EN 6MT than the WRX. Also according to C&D, the EN DCT is faster to 60 than the CTR, GRC, and WRX.
The Corolla badly needs a driver mod, and for some reason this video wasnt as exciting as I was expecting. I could minimally hear the engines roaring, which made me lose the excitement pretty early on, but I still appreciate the effort you made. 👍
The gr doesnt need a driver mod yalls. It gets out fast because of awd but the engine in the integra is a masterpiece. It beats corolla at top end. Lol
You don't deserve to have a Corolla GR here. You need big creds for this. Who would be silly enough to let you race against a GR? Do you even realize how rare and expensive the track edition of this car is? Limited edition. All WRX are 15 year old technology, time for Suby to wake up and smell the java. The Corolla driver is not shifting at the proper shift points and is losing momentum and doesn't know how to use boost mode.
These drag races are so frustrating. Sam can’t drive a manual. Or launch. There is no coordination between drivers. No one can come to a reasonable conclusion from these races. This channel has so much potential but falls short every time.
They put up some decent times for not being able to drive!
This is exactly WHY I stopped watching this channel. You can’t go by any of these results. It’s just cool to see everyday cars racing that’s it.
and he always seem to like the crackle and pop sounds better. Even when they are NOT good sounding engines at all. Like in this video. The Subaru sounds worst. you hear accessories more than than boxer bromp its know for. then the hyundai that crackles and pop but doesnt sound like a long lasting engine. The engine is pushed to the limit of its thin alu block. then the Honda. Somehow New Hondas crackle and pop aplenty and are still good af cars but they lost so much character it was known for. Then the GR is the best sounding with plenty of character although IT IS ODD SOUNDING! But it sounds solid! and if you understand ICE scaling technicalities it is the most overbuilt engine of the bunch and it sounds like it. Especially between 4k and 6.5k where it sounds somehow like a Cummins Diesel which always makes me smile. And it is the most analog car of the bunch. Everything about it feels like a rally spec restomod four door hatch. its not about how nice the interior or how fast on a 1/4 its about "smiles per curves"
@@CG-yh6jsDang. Just be glad we get this content. And also owners are driving their own cars here , so I think they do pretty good most of the time. But I do agree about the sound of the subaru. Oh well just give me a bug eye!
I agree. There are many aspects that need improved.
Whoever is driving the GR Corolla reaction time is the worst.
I know!! Amazing, 🤩 no delays, even racing drivers have a 1.2 or 2 reaction time, this dude is right at 0!!
@@SamCarLegionhe meant bad dude, we’re u guys scared to break it or something? Idk if you know but the corolla 60ft time is lightning speed and would be in front of everyone’s bumper at the start
😂
I’m not the best driver and i own Elantra N but the Corolla dude needs practice. I know that Corolla does a better launch than that
There is no way the integra being front wheel drive gets off the line faster then the GR Corolla, the driver is lacking
38k for a type s? Sign me up. It's over 50k here in the US...
@@impulsivedesigns I’d buy one right now for $39k!!
I'm guessing they accidentally looked up the price for the A Spec with Tech in manual. The Type S is over 15k more than the price they listed 😂
Not to mention dealer markups
Ye it is 55k cad which equals 40k usd msrp in Canada.
@@4bryan4 but they put in the video that it is 39k USD. The Type-S MSRP in the U.S. is right around 54k.
I would like to see the 2024 Elantra N in automatic transmission since it's the fastest variant of the car tested against other cars
I don't really blame the N driver for those launches, the axle hop can get pretty bad on those
I thought they fixed it in 2023. I guess not still needs upgraded Bushings
@@CobbG37x from what I've seen the refreshed face lift had reduced it significantly but the earlier ones still had problems with it
@@CobbG37x 2024*
@@CobbG37x 2024 reduced it pretty well
I do, his 1-2 , 2-3 and 3-4 shifts are soooooo slowwwww.
The car stops all forward movement for half a second or more, each shift. Not to mention, anyone with a 2023 or older N has upgraded their transmission bushings by now
One thing about Honda vehicles that seems to be a recurring thing is that when it comes to their 6 cylinder engines, they seem to be mid to low in class as far as output, hence the TLX Type S, MDX Type S and Pilot. They are all out gunned by their competition classmates. But when it comes to their 4 cylinders, they seem to always be best in class, hence the civic Type R and Integra Type S.
@@RunEmDownTony the MDX Type S beat the GV80 twin-turbo and TX500h F-performance on Sam's channel. And the TLX Type S beat the C43 AMG and M340i's lap times at MotorTrend.
@tonemack2981
For type s one of the main issues is the weight of the vehicle
@@aymanal_jahwari9148overcome the weight with mods. You can make 100whp with bolt ons and tune.
@@aymanal_jahwari9148the only Type S that is overweight is the TLX. The MDX Type S is lighter than its competition, same story with the Integra Type S.
It's not overweight. You're forcing it in the wrong class. against cars like the 540i and e53 the tlx is certainly not over. @drivescene6747
The Elantra definitely is the best sounding one
@@marcosdelvalle8314 она не звучит, она просто дёшево шумит
@@marcosdelvalle8314 it is also the shittiest one lmao
I hope that gr corolla didn't go over 85mph.....
Is it that bad?
🤣🤣 it’s gonna catch on fire 🔥
Haha I thought the same thing
@@nameblod Yup and the car is only rated for 85mph per Toyota, so the warranty is now void.
Facts, just voided the warranty on TH-cam 😂
race starts at 6:19
Thank You
The driver of the toyota doesn't want to kill his clutch, on the drags it was suppose to walk away from the crowd.
yea. driver problem on that gr
Cope
@@amirhamzah2256 4.9 is exactly what you should expect. You don't know what you're talking about....
Agreed i was like are u doing that on purpose or just that bad at.
@@thatGRprick how fast to 60 do you expect?
Gs corolla just lost the warranty after hiting 115 mph😂😂😂
😂
@@inmortalanibalful after passing 60mph is the warranty which everyone will void. Surprised it didnt catch on fire like the other GR Corollas ive seen
@@d_killer_ghost9251 it’s been two incidents lol
@@d_killer_ghost9251catching on fire is old joke and that was due to their driver error money shifting
GR is the best
the driver of the corolla has a very bad reaction
Fan boy
@@mauriciocecilianochacon6898cope
@@mauriciocecilianochacon6898 Nah, dude cant launch it.
toyota clown
@@mauriciocecilianochacon6898bro doesn't know wtf awd is. Man shut your b as up.
That was awfull....nobody is lined up ....and the shifting is terrible..
lol None of them know how to roll race
And the idiot calling the pull always accelerates before the rest. Complete circus act.
Let me start by saying that the DE5 is fantastic. I have one. Test drove every car in this video.
The only thing that surprised me is that during the drag race. Both AWD cars didn’t have a greater lead than the one we saw in the video.
Because they care about their car lol launching these to make them fast off the line is mad hard on them
Dumping the clutch is a good way to break something sooner than later. These guys treat their cars well.
13.9 quarter from the WRX is pretty much what the car sites tested it at. These are privately owned vehicles so I doubt the owners are willing to take the risk of a high rpm clutch drop.
The new GR Corolla with the automatic transmissions going to be a problem
Yep
Agreed! Im a Honda guy but kudos to Toyota for making that move. Honda should have offered a Civic Touring/Integra Advance version with the 10AT. (even a 2.0T from the old Accord would do just fine)
Problem with overheating, probably
Gross, automatic
@@19hundoc47 You're a poser..
Elantra N, for the price, ❤
Yeah the Hyundai is great. We get the i30N Hatch here and its the best looking, best sounding car of that line up by far, no contest and more power than the Elantra. The Honda is way too expensive and its not really a hatchback, its a fastback. The GR was also poor value for money here and that's before the engines starting blowing up and now they are catching fire.
Don't buy because of price if you can afford better tho imo!!
@@speeddemonRS3 I get it, but im speaking for how good a value it is, and pit it against them on a track, then let's see how good the Elantra N stacks up
@godzilla7391 It is a good value for sure, especially since the Integra is a flat-out ripoff at 50k plus lol
@@speeddemonRS3 I could have bought a Porsche 718 but I still bought an i30N. The i30N is 75% as good as the Porsche and far more practical but over here the Porsche costs four times more than the i30N and it doesn't even come with forged alloys. You just cannot justify the cost of a Euro car over here....except the i30N is also made in Europe for our market. Albert Biermann is a genius, he designed a car that's one out of the box and not a conservative Japanese car.
Who is paying 42k fir the wrx? Insane
You can easily get the base model for $32k. The TR has Brembos, Recaros, better suspension and wheels. I’ll bet on a road course it comes in 1st or 2nd.
The Corolla needs a new driver
Car and driver got 4.4 sec 0-60 out of their Corolla GR.
@@yume8380 Car and driver use 1 foot rollout 0-60. So the first foot is remove from the total time. It can be a difference up to 0.3 seconds.
@@RickMoldEven then the others should be slower.
@@RickMold They always have the quickest time, that 1 foot rollout and much abused haha.
Dude the whole time I was watching this that’s all I could think of. Who the hell they have behind that wheel?
ACURA INTEGRA TYPE S is a BEAST!!! 💪
most expensive here also. 16 k more than an Elantra N
@@buildmorefarms1007 yes but it’s a Integra and the other one is a helantra
@@buildmorefarms1007 but the Integra power to practicality it wins
@@lethal2904 I think it's noring
I wonder how the EN DCT+NGS gonna do. And I wonder if the manual version EN did octane learn. I just noticed the EN that Sam tested is before 2024 model year.
Coffee breaks between your shifts
Yeah, especially the Elantra N driver
Elantra N got destroyed in the dig race!
We want Elantra N with DCT transmission. We know the result with a manuel transmission
And we know the results of with the DCT transmission. 🤷♂
Why do EN owners say this every time it doesn’t win lol. Sam made this video 100% apples to apples as far as manuals. Surprised I haven’t seen an octane learned comments yet.
@@TheHybridQ50Sliterally. It’s everytime. Then we’ll just hear people complain that it wasn’t fair because it’s the only DCT.
@@TheHybridQ50Sthat’s bc they know the result manual vs manual type r will win every time dct is a different story type r will loose everytime but its not a fair race
N owners can't accept the fact that they're inferior and just be happy that their car is affordable for what it is.
The Integra Type S starts at $51,800 in the U.S.
That GR Corolla is surprisingly quick for what it is, the Acura is also great but too expensive that it makes it seem it isn't worth it's price point
Why? It’s got around the same amount of HP as the other cars and weighs about the same as the others. Oh and it lost. Not sure why you’re so surprised how fast it is lol
@@19hundoc47 it lost? did you even watch the video at all
@@19hundoc47cope
@@19hundoc47
3i and 1.6 🫡👀
Forreal lol Sam kept jumping the line and still lost 😂
Incredible video! All of those cars are amazing! I traded my 2019 fk8 type R a year and a half ago for a 2023 Civic Type R FL5! I like it better than my Fk8 a lot! It’s all around in my opinion a better car than the FK8! It’s hard to explain how good it is until somebody has driven one! Prior to my Type R’s I owners 4 different generations and mid model upgraded Civic Si’s! I’m a big Honda fan but all of the cars in this video are great! I would love to experience how each one drives! Keep up the great content! 😃👍🙏🏼🚙
Elantra N should still be using an Automatic because it’s already an unfair race when it has a lot less horsepower and no AWD than the competition Sam come on now.
@SeudXe It's been proven on a dyno the elantra n has 276hp at the wheels not at the crank .
So it's closer to 300bhp not 276 and should have the advantage over the others in a roll race.
Either the driver didn't octane learn before the race as 4 psi would make big difference or they can't drive a manual to save themselves.
Acura integra type s in usa starting at 51,800 $
I think Sam posted the CAD conversation price. The DE5 starts at around 51,000 CAD, so when you convert it to USD, it is just shy of 38,000 USD. But yes, in the US it starts around 52,000 USD.
Over price!
@@kobedabest yeah but that the price hare in usa
Pretty good discounts on ITS right now. Well under $50k.
@@AlaskanSnowLeopardso why the WRX didn’t convert
Just came here to see people whine about EN octane learning and that isn't a DCT.
@@Marbind 😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂 that community is weird
@@jeremiah4k927very weird
"Bet the driver didn't octane learn and if it was a dct it wouldn't have even been close"
Bro there are various test between the N,GR and the type R even with the DCT, the N still looses to the GR and type R, the only upside is that the DCT N stays with the GR and the type R to 60, but after 60 it gets dropped, there are videos online to prove my point@@tyhyhh
If u launch the corolla properly it’s actually wild, I was so surprised I forgot to shift to second
Glad I’m not the only one to notice this, those were not good launches. If I recall correctly they couldn’t launch the other GR they had in their channel from another video either.
@@Jeyxero I was actually theyre that day, I brought the type r to the drag stop for a media friend,
I have a corolla myself so I didn’t want to drive the car before I got mine(2 months after that), yes your correct no one could launch but no one revved high enough, the surface is rough tho for the diff
None the less, u spin the corolla to 5+ k and it spins all tires for over 40 feet, it’s rapid
@@jdmbren13 I haven’t done many launches on mine but 60/40 was quite the pull when I managed to do it right. Other cars in the video have their strengths too imo
Im here for the Elantra N! Was is octane learned?
EDIT: WHY IS IT NOT A 2024 DCT AUTO!!!????
I would like to see a 2024 DCT Hyundai Elantra N race a manual Elantra N
You can clearly see the Hyundai driver is very slow to shift through the gears. The shift pause is crazy long
@@johnnyturbo8460 lets agree that the elantra besides the fact that i comes in manual, is made for the dct, im all for #savethemanuals but lets see some real speed with the best the elantra has
Elantra N is garbage. Hyundai is gabrage
@@fib4923 Says the guy who can't afford a Nissan Leaf, how pathetic! And dear no-one, what are your statements about the GR Corollas blowing their engines? Oh right, you're a damn no-life, brand snob.
How do u use the octane learn?
@@fib4923don’t be like the Chinese writing negative comments about goods just cause it’s from Korea.
The price on the Integra is $20K higher than what you said lol. It's $52k+ in USA.
the roll races are a shame, you better take a look how they do it in carwow channel
The guy driving the corolla could do with a lesson in shifting you can see how long it takes to get a gear looks like it hits a wall every time
He's holding down the clutch like he's driving in eco, in sport all the grc needs in a tap. Dudes slow af. I understand not wanting to wear the clutch, but dudes racing, what else did he want.
As a DCT EN owner, I’m sad that I’ll probably never get to see how my car stacks up against these. I understand the transmission fairness argument blaaah blaaah, but I think it would be very interesting to see how the DCT stacks up anyway. Why is that so hard?
That’s what I am saying. I know they’ll probably never post one octane learned as well, but it’s much faster. I’ve only raced M340s, 5th gen camaro SS, civic Si, manual Ns, BMW 330is, audi s4 8.5. Here are results from a 40 roll.
M340(some bolt ons tune disabled): 40-65/70 was pretty much even but he beat me afterwards. 1.5-2 cars at 120+ lol.
5th gen SS manual (cammed no tune): I lost by a car length at about 100/110 from a 40 roll.
Civic Si: I didn’t even have to be octane learned, buddy was just hyped to roll race haha(me too🤣).
23 330i xdrive: dig he launched faster but after i stopped spinning and hit 2nd gear I caught up and beat him by 2 cars at 80/90 mph. Roll race from 40 to 100-105 i beat him by 3+ cars.
S4 8.5(stock): I beat by a car length, was a 40 roll.
Manual N: 40-110 i beat by about 2 cars.
Because they too afraid to see it win all over and yet it's cheaper
@@you_can_fuck_your_own_ass_69Get out of here with that vapid nonsense lmao
Is quite annoying, dct owner as well and completely get the manual for fairness but how many years need to go by before it’s justified to start seeing the dct from the yt community doing these races. after all it is just a race, we just want to know what matchups win against what matchups
Hey dude. I'm the EN owner on Jvettes channel. Gonna get some races with me against some of these cars soon. WRX is slower than EN DCT, same with GR Corolla. Type S is close but like half a car with a very good driver. Type R is worse than Type S
The race with the Elantra N DCT is not fair but it is fair to use AWD and more Hp hahahahaaha bahh I like your videos but in this one nothing is fair
@@V3nganzaPR Just want to see a DCT.
Elantra N is garbage pro. Are you poor?
@@fib4923 Its Garbage? Evidence?You probably take d up your bum to make money. R u PoOR? F/\9.
@fib4923 Omg, look! Another woke + broke brand snob, well hello there armchair pleb! Hope you love the fact you're poor enough to not afford a car!!
Great races Sam enjoy watching your content!!
Acura + Honda = Great Engineering
Great engineering.....for a price that is almost always higher than anybody else haha.
@@yume8380Exactly!! The N best for the buck for sure.
Glazer
You mean overheating engine oil.
@@ArthaxtaDaVince777 you must be talking about Hyundai
Great race. Big fan of the new Integra type s. Looks good . Sounds good. And will be reliable as a Honda should. Good driving this race
Gonna throw this out here. The results aren't accurate at all. Your GR driver can't shift or react worth a hoot.
When I came onto YT this morning several channels I subscribed to popped up with new videos. This was the first one I watched. One of the other ones had a Ferrari vs. several Audis. Sam's channel features cars the vast majority of people can afford which makes it, to me anyways, much more interesting.
I just got my WRX. You can't find a GR, Type S, or Type R; if you can, they are selling with twice the interest rate, and Type R is all $5000 over sticker. I got $2000 off and 3.9%. I would love to see one of these with the WRX having an AP and intake. It would help level the playing field for the price difference.
@@robertlowenstein4921 Got air intake, Cobb acces port, cat back and love it. I also own a Kona N
Yea VB is way under tuned from the factory compared to the other 3
you should have gotten Hyundai Elantra N.
Theres a reason that they are discounting the Wrx
We need the civic type R vs s3 both stock vs genesis 3.3 stock vs bmw 335xi stock vs Ford mustang v6 stock
The Elantra N sounds the best 1:52
do it again but with the new automatic corolla!
These results are pretty much spot-on for what I expected. The FWD cars dominate the roll races, and the AWD cars get the dig on FWD but are caught up by the Type S's superior power to weight ratio. I only wish the Type S could be 38k in the US lol
The Integra Type S sounds and looks the best.
The rest are not appealing at all
No, and I do love Acura stuff, especially 98 Integra Type R, this new Integra is a letdown.
@@yume8380 Maybe next version will only rev to 6 RPM 😂... Just keep getting lower and lower... Heavier and heavier
Cap
@@Wind_slash0nah I agree. The Acura Integra looks the best out of all these. Price wise though I would rather go with the Elantra and I love Hondas. Just can’t justify paying $52k or actually probably more like $56k after all fees
I wish they can watch "Car Wow" and learn how to do a drag race.
Boring
Why not run this same test in the rain, snow or mud?
Because we like to live
Now that would be a nice change from the usual car journalist races in optimal conditions.
What does that mean?
Lots of people know how to drive fast in adverse conditions.
More risk = more YT clicks
"The GR Corolla is too small to fit two bigger people" claim is crazy😅 I commute in a GR Corolla everyday and carpool with a friend who is also 6' tall and we do construction so we have coolers and everything else.. No issues with space even with the occasional third person. Just an FYI for all those interested in the GRC.
Big surprise... they overall performed in order of horsepower and torque...
Right?
That GR Corolla was fast off the line. All wheel drive will always perform better from a dig. The Acura still took the crown.
What’s insane is a little $500 tune for the Elantra N and it will win! For still u see 38k. How impressive. Hyundai has come a long way.
@@nmode22 same could be said for the WRX, and the base starts at just under 33k(US) with the same engine and AWD system.
Both cars are great, I only wish the N had been more of an option here in Canada where it is priced higher in comparison to the WRX than in the US.
You know what's even more insane? My 23 base WRX being 28K OTD. I could literally spend 2-3K and be close to 400 whp and still have a few grand to play with being cheaper than the MSRP of the EN and GRC 😮
@@BDA0531Don't mod a WRX because it will blow up 😅😂
@@speeddemonRS3 if you exceed 400 wtq then the tranny wont last long. But the FA24 itself is incredibly stout and can handle power
Gotta love the lineup and the work you guys did to make this race happen. Plus we have to consider the cars are not yours so even though you "push them" to a racing scenario you dont run them like its a win or break them down.
those corolla gr’s are turning on fire 😂
2 units out of 10k, but yeah a street car at 300hp shouldn't be doing that
Wow, this was a cool battle. I'd also have to go with the Acura Type S but they are probably impossible to buy at MSRP. Something about the Toyota GR rear funky rear fenders look really awkward and odd to me. It's crazy how much you can save on the WRX in Canada. That's a 7K difference if you buy it in Canada vs US. I would imagine you could probably actually go in and buy the WRX and the Elantra for MSRP. I doubt it for the other two. The actual availability of these cars at MSRP is actually a HUGE factor for people considering a new car. Keep em coming Sam!
Now let’s see a wrx with just a simple tune
Then everyone else has to have a simple tune.
Or even, let's see who wins an all weather race with corners...or even a race on a slippery or dirty surface.
cope with a tune or weather conditions.. the only thing that makes AWD good in "all weather" is power to the front wheels... lets be honest. honda has been king
@lemon_sharxx WRX powers all 4 wheels 24/7. Lol
Well not just that if you want to rally you want to AWD.
If you want to make big power you want AWD or RWD.
FWD even Honda built is gonna turn into wheel hop city after a certain point.
@@its.Andy1 I’d love to see that tbh. No bolt ons (or just simple ones like and intake) plus a tune. Guarantee the wrx would come in 1st or second every race
Honda/Acura gang ! 🤤
I love my 2022 WRX limited. Such a great car. And this is coming from someone who's previous daily was a 2017 STI. The VB WRX is just fantastic to drive. Grip for days. Yeah I would like a GR Corolla too, but not for 10-15k more and I prefer the interior on the WRX
I’m at about 370 whp with fbo on e85. It’s a great car for sure. Keeps up with my r8 to 60
Agreed 💯, GR too expensive for what you get.
for being sub 300 horsepower, the wrx did well, you should've put an STi in this video, the wrx isnt a sports car, it is a turbo sedan
Cry girl
Anyway. How did dude in the Corolla get beat off the line twice in the drag race, put somebody else in there.
@@advangs someone was beating off the dude in the Corolla, twice?
Next time they'll wait for you to buy one and let you do a full throttle clutch sidestep in your expensive car.
This is interesting. I would love to see if the Elantra octane learned if the results would change very interesting.
Thats a 22 - 23 elantra n which is probably a manual. A 24 automatic would probably win all these races...
23 n can just put new engine Mount on it
absolutely not. still like a 30-40 hp delta with the type-s
I was waiting for this gay comment
@@porschegt2346 oh you were? Glad I could provide.
@tealchief it would be much much closer. And for 34k compared to 53k the elantra n is the clear winner...
Pls do 2023 N vs 204 N
How many times we asked for an elantra N dct drag race with those is it that hard or you all are afraid from it to beat the shit of these
Nobody wants a 34k front wheel drive Hyundai to win from a roll or a even possibly a dig against cars either AWD or are 42-62k out the door... if they want to talk about how crazy the automatic GR corolla will be then why can't we express the fact that the DCT Elantra N is bonkers
@@FullerDetails lol 34k is still a cheaper than most !
You said who wants a dct elantra n and it’s the most successful and most Sold elantra N model
@@popsandbangs8858 it would still get beaten by the GR Corolla, I saw your previous comment stating it runs 12.9sec stock 🤡, in actually runs 13s and it isn't even as fast to 60 as the manual GR Corolla
@@Investor_philips the manual elantra N shits on gr corolla on a track. Go watch savageguesse video where he compared all of them on a track using a pro driver and same tires on all vehicles
It makes sense the power to weight ratio alone the Integra is the lightest car of the 4 and has the most HP and torque. You have to have a couple years driving a FWD with 6 speed manual under your belt before you can master a launch, and what you learned starts over again with new tires. It's all in the clutch release - a little bit of riding the clurch on launch can make the difference. Check out the Bisimoto Odyssey with 1,000 HP, it has a 0-60 time of 3.4 seconds. Shifting from 1st to 2nd in the Integra Type-S has to be right at redline, gearing is not as forgiving as the rest of the gears.
As with the CTR, there's definitely a 'VTEC kicked in Yo!' component with the ITS.
Exactly why I changed my mind after test driving a type s . That power is no good if u can't put it on the pavement. It's already crossed the threshold so why even bother with mods that don't help it hook?
Maaan !!! I hear a lot of crying about shifting here lol!! Must be just the professional racers 🤣.
They just came off their race day.
@@SamCarLegion All cars seemed to be running pretty good ,, I think some people were hurt by seeing the Integra Type S whooping the vehicle they own 🤣🤣🤣.
Well it's the fact that the grc has better launch times but it came out last. Dont have to be a racer, just need access to the internet.
Should’ve gotten a newer Elantra N, but great vid nonetheless, always bringing a exciting line up to drag
Good to know these cars are faster than the slower version of the EN. Of corse we all know they're all slower than the fastest EN, DCT.
The fastest one to the nearest mechanic shop? Yessir! 💪
@@agr_hahaha wtf stop trolling you all saying shits because it's not a Japanese made car
@@agr_You sound like power bottom.
@agr_ The hype R has four times more recalls than the EN, no track warranty, and overheats on track
@@CTF33 yet has the fastest record for a factory FWD car on the Nurburgring
Integra Type S is around $53k MSRP. That is pre-delivery and any other fees. Many dealers in California are marking these up to around $60-$65k
You have to do Elantra N with dual clutch .
Elantra N is garbage
@@fib4923 You’re garbage. Depressed n need to take meds Lmao.
@@fib4923r u Japanese?
Wow, love it, love the cars, love the content. It’s great!!!
All of these cars are serious contenders
Acura really stepping back into the competition.
At our track it gave the Honda Type R some issues.
Wrx best bang for your buck in snowy states just get a base model for under 30k
Both the WRX and the GR Corolla do a poor job launching in this video, but Sam did an earlier video where he figured out the GRolla launch properly and the 6-speed WRX and the GRolla were closer in the launch. Neither could beat the Type R (same as Type S) in the drag, but it was close.
Elantra n🔥🔥🔥
Careful, you dont want that toyota to go on fire.
Another solid win for Team Acura 👌
In a straight line and that's about it. Should buy a stang gt instead.
@@davothegreat9990 Stang GT which is slower than a 3 cylinder bmw i8 ... a tune on that acura and bye bye Stang GT.
@@davothegreat9990 what are you talking about? this acura is literally a type R for a more daily/road usage. And type r DESTROYS stang on track
@@davothegreat9990but the Integra Type S has VTEC though
@@Eugen-E Lmao still FWD slow POS
EN is the best car by far. Driver mod is a thing, not octane learned which is a big bump in boost for these, Canadian spec is heavier and less rigid than US for those watching, and the price difference is HUGE. If you did the wet DCT fanboys would cry it is unfair even though it would still be much lower in price than the others still. It can also do what these cars are made for (laps on a road course or circuit) without issues the others will face. They did an incredible job with them.
Can't wait to hear all the comments about how the Elantra N should've been the DCT. 😂
If you have to have an advantage, and can't be on equal grounds to win a race then that's a problem. As a VN owner I love all the N cars, but the coping that comes from EN owners is horrendous. Plus these are all track focused vehicles, so putting so much weight on their straight line performance is dumb and counterproductive to their actual purpose.
The GR and WRX have the advantage of AWD, the integra has the advantage of 40+ more hp why not use the fastest version of the EN?
What…? The WRX and GRC have AWD advantage, and the GRC and ITS have a HP advantage. It’s totally fair to even the playing field with the EN DCT. Plus, in the real world on the street or track, nobody makes excuses like that. If a EN DCT beats these cars in a roll on the street or drag strip, it’s a W fair and square. Plus, it’s just interesting to see different matchups. It’s not a complicated concept
@@CTF33 AWD only has an advantage from a dead stop, and is actually a disadvantage when getting roll racing due to higher drivetrain loss. And saying that the other cars have more horsepower is not valid enough. Plenty of other cars have more horsepower than the N cars and yet we win.
@@Symphoniics AWD only has an advantage from a dead stop, and is actually a disadvantage when getting roll racing due to higher drivetrain loss. From personal experience EN owners are the ones making that excuse, I've seen it too many times. And yes a W is a W, but it's not entirely fair when that W only happens because you needed the advantage of an automatic. And I'm aware that it's interesting to see different results which is why I watched the video, and no shit that it's not a complicated concept, but without fail there will always be at least one EN owner complaining about not having the DCT.
@@lllll981 It is correct that AWD is only an advantage from a dig. That’s why the EN 6MT beat the WRX from a roll (EN also has a bit more HP) but lost to it from a dig. AWD also led the GRC to beat the EN 6MT from a dig but the GRC also has the extra power which is why it edged out the EN 6MT from a roll. GRC has the advantage from a dig and a roll due to AWD and HP respectively. The EN DCT levels the playing field.
Love your videos this one is nice should have added the ct4v with the 2.7 325hp thought you wold add that since you had ct4 blackwing
Great point!
Not using the DCT in the Elantra is a shame, its the faster accelerating model and would be interesting to see how it stacks up.
Why are you Hyundai boys so butt hurt every time a manual EN shows up? It’s literally apples to apples with the other cars.
Everyone saying theyre All manual its fair, yet not switching drivers and FWD vs AWD cars... Totally fair. Its interesting but yall take these as gospel.... And if you know basic car stuff you knoq capable FWD cars are in roll races against AWD cars, and AWD of course wins majority in digs its not rocket science... Is what it is tho these videos on this channel are very weird sometimes
Octane learning comments in 3 2 1...😂
Sam bringing the real heat this summer😆🔥🔥🔥🔥
Base WRX for 31k will reap the same results with 10k for mods
@@OOOnanana I have a 23 wrx for a daily. I have an intake, turbo back exhaust, and a top mount on an e85 tune putting out 370 whp. It cost me about 5k to get where I am. I got the car for 32500. Keeps up with my r8 to 60.
@@CharacterZero89 you're gonna need a lot more than 5k when that engine blows
@@brhardi48326 my last build was reliable. Regardless I could afford to short block the car if I had to. 5k is nothing. My r8 exhaust was 8k alone. Never mind the tune the wrap all the powder coating and stuff.
@@CharacterZero89 ya 310 for me is enough. not much can go wrong with exhaust and intake but dont want to add anything else until warranty expires
Corolla guy still learning how to drive manual? You cant be real lmfao
The Acura took the sound test. Dude said the Hyundai sounded good but I thought it sounded like garbage.
😂 let me get what you are smoking if you think any of those car's including the Acura sounds better than the N
@@JorgeCabrera-zh7yr N sounds like 10 nails being shaken in a soda can. Don’t kid yourself.
@@GildedEmeraldThe EN is the hardest to launch. Car and Driver got a faster time with the EN 6MT than the WRX. Also according to C&D, the EN DCT is faster to 60 than the CTR, GRC, and WRX.
@@GildedEmeraldN by far sounds the best. Keep hating
@@Symphoniics 🧢
The Corolla badly needs a driver mod, and for some reason this video wasnt as exciting as I was expecting. I could minimally hear the engines roaring, which made me lose the excitement pretty early on, but I still appreciate the effort you made. 👍
Good morning. Good choice of cars. I will now sit back and enjoy.
The gr doesnt need a driver mod yalls. It gets out fast because of awd but the engine in the integra is a masterpiece. It beats corolla at top end. Lol
I want to see veloster n's ib these videos i know it wouldn't win but is still capable
The VN DCT would be faster than all of them. Unless they used an EN DCT.
Imagine if the downforce was removed from the lighter civic type r lol
It’s the Elantra N for me. Sounds the best. Looks the best (in my opinion). Gives the most for the money. True winner for Hyundai.
Did I hear a Friday reference 😂 “bye Felicia”
Sadly my 2018 Honda Accord would come close to all of these still. 1/4 in 14.0 and 0-60 in 5.5.
You don't deserve to have a Corolla GR here. You need big creds for this. Who would be silly enough to let you race against a GR? Do you even realize how rare and expensive the track edition of this car is? Limited edition. All WRX are 15 year old technology, time for Suby to wake up and smell the java. The Corolla driver is not shifting at the proper shift points and is losing momentum and doesn't know how to use boost mode.
Check your prices the integera type-s in the US is 51k msrp not 38
Acura is honestly my favourite Japanese car brand.
This race would be so much more accurate if you guys had a 2024 Elantra N
And? Same could be said for a 2025 grc