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  • @GrowlingSidewinder
    @GrowlingSidewinder  ปีที่แล้ว +41

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    • @thecobra45
      @thecobra45 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Differential thrust mig 29 vs raptor sometime in the future?
      Also I would like to see if it is possible in those post kill spin outs to get a gun kill after flipping around in them or something

    • @77Avadon77
      @77Avadon77 ปีที่แล้ว

      @dbcannon yes how about ov10 bronco vs A10. 😳

    • @welltell.
      @welltell. ปีที่แล้ว +4

      They say in Chess if you beat your opponent 10 times in a row you have "Adopted him"... What would they say if you beat your opponent 5 times in a row in a dogfight?? you have "Aced him". !!

    • @hkguitar1984
      @hkguitar1984 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great Flying GS.
      Yes, Flankers are sexy while still projecting a very muscular and dangerous profile.

    • @Mcdoogle221
      @Mcdoogle221 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree, the flankers are the sexiest fighters. They got that look.

  • @kgjung2310
    @kgjung2310 ปีที่แล้ว +386

    "The first one is just a warm up." Well, things do get hotter when you're set on fire. Also, a single engine fire only helps in differential thrust.

    • @sogerc1
      @sogerc1 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      At least towards one side 🤣

    • @kgjung2310
      @kgjung2310 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@sogerc1 Only need 3 right turns and you get a left!

    • @VulcanM61
      @VulcanM61 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wait until you hear about the new hologram flares

  • @theamericancommie727
    @theamericancommie727 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    Alternate title, aerodynamics defiant flanker vs American UFO

    • @kramnoslaw4474
      @kramnoslaw4474 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Raptor does kinda look like a ufo

    • @bodieleblanc2577
      @bodieleblanc2577 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@kramnoslaw4474 if you want a wierd looking 5th gen then look up the Yf-23

    • @xWarLegendx
      @xWarLegendx ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bodieleblanc2577 tht mf had some weird ass engineering ngl

  • @annoymouse890
    @annoymouse890 ปีที่แล้ว +176

    You know it’s a good day when he’s flying a flanker

  • @1PUTTZ
    @1PUTTZ ปีที่แล้ว +59

    Nothing like getting 360 no-scoped by a Raptor in the first 30 seconds.

  • @_SGR_
    @_SGR_ ปีที่แล้ว +349

    The amount of flares the F22 can shoot is insane!

    • @lexusmanning
      @lexusmanning ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Its not accurate

    • @dylanthompson6186
      @dylanthompson6186 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@lexusmanninghat would be an accurate amount for the f22?

    • @JordanSantana.
      @JordanSantana. ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@dylanthompson6186 the F22 has around 25 flares on both cartridge (approximately:maybe more)

    • @dylanthompson6186
      @dylanthompson6186 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JordanSantana. thank you, I suppose thats about standard to below average.

    • @lexusmanning
      @lexusmanning ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@dylanthompson6186 classified

  • @zx7rou812
    @zx7rou812 ปีที่แล้ว +206

    Would love to see a split screen with a view of your throttle use.

    • @S0nz94
      @S0nz94 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      It would be really cool. I second this

    • @vipondiu
      @vipondiu ปีที่แล้ว +14

      That would be awesome

  • @invictarussuzerain
    @invictarussuzerain ปีที่แล้ว +409

    Says something about the F-22 when GS loses 4-2 and still feels confident enough to say the Flanker is dangerous in dogfights.

    • @dorp8193
      @dorp8193 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      What would it say?

    • @davisc1926
      @davisc1926 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      @dorp8193 Says that the F-22 being pretty darn good, is a significant understatement.

    • @antred11
      @antred11 ปีที่แล้ว +81

      @davisc1926 I don't see any logic in this statement. If anything, an F-22 achieving only a 2:1 ratio over a Su-27 (if it were reproducible; and this simulation was accurate) would say that the F-22 is NOT as good as we believe (at least in close-in dogfight scenarios).

    • @jay_jax
      @jay_jax ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Im am also confused by this statement. Though i do not think the f22 was taking it seriously

    • @djsquidleh9605
      @djsquidleh9605 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      @@antred11 big ifs though considering dcs can only do publicly available info, and the Raptor is as classified as can be (and also considering the state of the Russians, the Raptor would win minimum 9 times out of 10, but it’s not like they’d ever get that close)

  • @snapperface12345
    @snapperface12345 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    That flat spin kill, top notch! Loved it!

  • @VagabondTexan
    @VagabondTexan ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Ahh, he starts off with the old 360 no scope. Classic

  • @sevchikshwed7433
    @sevchikshwed7433 ปีที่แล้ว +202

    7:27 there is no way an aircraft should move like this… I’m stunned

    • @classonbread5757
      @classonbread5757 ปีที่แล้ว +94

      True but its not an aircraft, it's a raptor.

    • @banic8576
      @banic8576 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Wait for NGAD.

    • @BARelement
      @BARelement ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@banic8576 Likely will be more akin to the YF-23 than the “raptor” in DCS.

    • @kalactose348
      @kalactose348 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@banic8576 ngad will probably be less maneuverable than the raptor

    • @banic8576
      @banic8576 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@kalactose348 why would you think that?

  • @ardag1439
    @ardag1439 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Stealth leaf vs handbrake-turn-27. Lovely. I root for both.

  • @ile2038
    @ile2038 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "F-22 is doing trick shots on me" lmao, said every person who dogfights against an F-22

  • @nicholasbrandon2805
    @nicholasbrandon2805 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Damn, that was brave man. What a great video, it was nice to see you pushing the flanker.

  • @halnineooo136
    @halnineooo136 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    You could hear GS having hard time breathing while enduring the G loads on those rudder turns :)

    • @macgyver186
      @macgyver186 ปีที่แล้ว

      hick....hick....hick....

  • @Patrick-zr8tv
    @Patrick-zr8tv ปีที่แล้ว +1

    imagine seeing a dogfight like these on the ground, meters above your head. Full ab, high AoA, flares, missiles, the lot. Most dangerous air show you could ever go to.

  • @jikemenkins7098
    @jikemenkins7098 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Agree, Flankers are beautiful... but the design language is there in the 29 also, and I kinda like it's proportions a little better.

  • @sackofclams953
    @sackofclams953 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I appreciate the red circles. These times were kinda obvious but sometimes I’m squinting at the screen and have no clue what you’re talking about

  • @josueroberto7356
    @josueroberto7356 ปีที่แล้ว +109

    GS taking a whole missile hit and saying “I’m still in the fight” has the same energy as armless Denji standing up and saying “I can still fight”.

  • @vicroc4
    @vicroc4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Two wins out of six against a Raptor is pretty impressive. Damn thing makes you question the laws of physics.

    • @joshnewbill2069
      @joshnewbill2069 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He does also mention the raptor pilot seems to just be toying w him

    • @iamdarkrider4
      @iamdarkrider4 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, it's a joke. Poor fighter against a Raptor.

  • @nomar5spaulding
    @nomar5spaulding ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I still think my all time favorite random moment of missile madness was that time in the (I think) Harrier, doing the Falklands fight, where you fired at the A4 and the A4 fired back, and your Fox 2s both hit and exploded right in front of both airplanes, and the A4 came bursting through the fire like 3 feet off the nose. That was crazy.

  • @meatballg8655
    @meatballg8655 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey kid, if you yank hard enough on the stick that you’re basically falling out of the sky, you too can also just about manage 2 turns with an f-22!

  • @anubhabpaul3654
    @anubhabpaul3654 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Can you do Su-30MKI vs Japanese F-15 because for the first time, IAF and Japanese Self Defense air force are going to participate in an exercise

  • @skaldlouiscyphre2453
    @skaldlouiscyphre2453 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I like the Fulcrum even more than the Flanker (aesthetically), but they're both among the best looking fighters ever designed.

  • @garethfairclough8715
    @garethfairclough8715 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hah! That first one, he did exactly what you did to the hornet in the first round yesterday xD

  • @knowa2911
    @knowa2911 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    “Maybe I should just eject…”
    That’s probably what every pilot has ever thought when merging with the F-22. 😅

    • @ValentineC137
      @ValentineC137 ปีที่แล้ว

      Everyone except the A-10 pilot lol

  • @reidmortensen2629
    @reidmortensen2629 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Okay so the kill at the 6:20 ish mark… that fox2 looked like it was straight ballistic… like it would have hit without a seeker from this angle😂😂

  • @dalsbury1979
    @dalsbury1979 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The engines on fire was the fat lady singing 😂 Amusing battle for sure.

  • @bojned
    @bojned ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Do the same fight using Su-35 now.

    • @bojned
      @bojned ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Bolter024 I meant same concept - no FCS and using differential thrust. It should be more interesting.

  • @vividthespis
    @vividthespis ปีที่แล้ว +2

    To put this part of the ballet in true operatic musical context.
    Concerto Duetto No 4. Growling Sidewinder "La signora grassa canta"
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  • @chriskibbe2901
    @chriskibbe2901 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Excellent showing!! Well done! Not just superb entertainment but also very educational! Now I’ve learned how to have fighting chance against a Raptor. Thanks for all the hard work you put into this channel!!!

    • @GrowlingSidewinder
      @GrowlingSidewinder  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks for your support as always Chris. All the best.

  • @gotspeed_
    @gotspeed_ ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love the humor in round 4. Keep up the great videos.

  • @thekaorucat
    @thekaorucat ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Agreed, the Flankers look AWESOME. That twin engine look is just *chef's kiss*

  • @davidfecak9569
    @davidfecak9569 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    OH!!! 😂 Some of your verbal reactions are hilarious! You sound truly startled. 😅

  • @erics8192
    @erics8192 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    wouldn't getting inhaled into the engine of the F22 count as a draw since you TECHNICALLY got a kill on his plane?

    • @samblackstone3400
      @samblackstone3400 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      In the future countries will keep vast flocks of Canadian geese for wartime. The reason why? Getting sucked into the intake is technically a kill.

    • @shraka
      @shraka ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The helmet might do some damage but the plane could probably still limp home. Apparently birds getting sucked into intakes doesn't do much to a modern combat jet.

    • @Myemnhk
      @Myemnhk ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The f22 could almost certainly make it back with 1 engine

  • @inorite4553
    @inorite4553 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Still waiting on that Differential Thrust vid with the F-16.

    • @halnineooo136
      @halnineooo136 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Mexican F-16 can do do it after a Chili con carne lunch.

  • @daviejones31
    @daviejones31 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Love the differential thrust videos

  • @JohnHill-qo3hb
    @JohnHill-qo3hb ปีที่แล้ว

    When the pilot has the skills to push the capabilities of the A/C to maximum, danger close for the enemy, great showing, thanks.

  • @chadh7005
    @chadh7005 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The f-22 is like big brother you might get a shot in when he's playing but he'll give you more than you want in the end

  • @Uselink
    @Uselink ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Not over until the fat lady sings" - gets mowed down immediately

  • @Arrow_118
    @Arrow_118 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This is where the fun begins!

  • @rzrselliott
    @rzrselliott ปีที่แล้ว

    Good fight! Always appreciate the content!

  • @user-mf3oc6mj5l
    @user-mf3oc6mj5l ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Flankers sure are pretty, but Mig31 will forever be my only true love.

  • @angryrepublican4615
    @angryrepublican4615 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You make my days better

  • @SuperDiablo101
    @SuperDiablo101 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Flanker pilot Gets ingested into the raptor engine....."yesss I am now one with the F-22"

  • @SuperDiablo101
    @SuperDiablo101 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    In one of your videos you fought a Yf-23 if it's on DCS have you considered using it for future content?

    • @arieldario3849
      @arieldario3849 ปีที่แล้ว

      It appear a few seconds but nobody here forgot that fight, really cool...

  • @sdotflockem
    @sdotflockem ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Been waiting for this 👍👍👍

  • @11bravocrunchie22
    @11bravocrunchie22 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    i think your chances would be far better if the F-22 would wait until *after* the merge before maneuvering for the fight.

    • @GrowlingSidewinder
      @GrowlingSidewinder  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      well we're not trying to limit anything in these fights, he can do whatever he likes to win.

  • @t.iapsingh5651
    @t.iapsingh5651 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You just got appreciate the GS damn well flying you just killed a 2005 superjet with a old 1985 basic fighter

  • @MrKnoxguy101
    @MrKnoxguy101 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes, the Flanker family is an attractive group of aircraft. The way the front of the fuselage transitions from a flat streamline to what resembles a long neck that juts out and above the intakes that is pointing the nose slightly downward, giving the neck the effect of having a hump, and that nose looking like a really big bullet. They look intimidating.

  • @maxboskeljon6440
    @maxboskeljon6440 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Hey gs, i think it would be totally awesome if you could do a fight between the oldest and newest flankers

  • @snapp4132
    @snapp4132 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When it's added, it'd be cool to see the Mustang v.s. the Corsair.
    Unpopular opinion but, I think the Corsair is way cooler than the Mustang, but the Mustang is still up there.

  • @Cap1talNumbers
    @Cap1talNumbers ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Sidewinder Growls, the day is good.

  • @freshkidjo
    @freshkidjo ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice. At least in one of the rounds I would like to hear communication between you and your opponent. I think it would be a good laugh.

  • @Joeski77
    @Joeski77 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Best one yet!

  • @thecodphein467
    @thecodphein467 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I’m missing the stock aircraft dogfights… at least they’ll be back for a couple videos when the 15 drops. 🙏

  • @victorpapaavp
    @victorpapaavp ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "It's not over til the fat lady sings..."
    F-22 proceeds to chop off the back end of the flanker with 20 mike mike...

  • @Hugecreaper
    @Hugecreaper ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yess another f22 vid Great work keep it up man!!

  • @patrickbasin9389
    @patrickbasin9389 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Watching the f22 in a dogfight is like watching Aaron Judge with a metal bat at a little league home run derby.

  • @gnak6525
    @gnak6525 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    It would be interesting to see how the Su-35 would perform, I would imagine it would be really close

    • @r6god685
      @r6god685 ปีที่แล้ว

      he already did the video, Su-35 Flanker E vs. F22

    • @gnak6525
      @gnak6525 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@r6god685 I meant using the split throttle, which he hasn't done with the 35

  • @Archer89201
    @Archer89201 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Raptor acting like a South Indian movie actor casually defying laws of physics

  • @hamncheese0172
    @hamncheese0172 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Hey gs, you have inspired me to start my dcs journey. Today, I got my first module. I decided to get the mirage 2000c

    • @spine3595
      @spine3595 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey if you want to learn dogfighting let me know I'm part of a really big bfm community although mostly guns only not a lot fox 2 and mirage is a very good fighter second best plane in bfm just a bit of a hard gunsight to use

    • @GrowlingSidewinder
      @GrowlingSidewinder  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      congratulations man, mirage is a great choice.

    • @hippoace
      @hippoace ปีที่แล้ว

      how do you get the shortcut keys for the mirage 2000?

    • @hamncheese0172
      @hamncheese0172 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hippoace I’m still learning so I’m currently clueless

    • @hamncheese0172
      @hamncheese0172 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GrowlingSidewinder I guess enough drooling at your videos can get someone motivated 🤷‍♂️

  • @christobaliancantu7112
    @christobaliancantu7112 ปีที่แล้ว

    I agree with you on the flankers being beautiful jets. Always thought that.

  • @kennyj4366
    @kennyj4366 ปีที่แล้ว

    That gun shot sawing both wings the su-27 was some awesome shooting.

  • @ognjenpavlovski8616
    @ognjenpavlovski8616 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    11seconds yayy,i love ur videos man!

  • @Keklan572
    @Keklan572 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    F-22 pulling off moves in atmosphere that you can do in space.

  • @ShoGunGrebby420
    @ShoGunGrebby420 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    GS: Whats he doin.... OHHHHHHH! Me: Well it looks like he's gonna shove a missle up your... yep that's what he's doin'!🤣🤣🤣

  • @dcskater602
    @dcskater602 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice and good fights! But let’s not forget, that’s the flanker with HMD and high off bore. The f22 is limited to vertical scan mode since there’s no hmd.

  • @calvinhosworld
    @calvinhosworld ปีที่แล้ว +2

    on round # 2 after being hit and spinning out, it seemed for a brief second you a gun shot right before ejecting.

  • @hugobloemers4425
    @hugobloemers4425 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Have you noticed I am doing differential thrust?" No kidding, your left engine is on fire...

  • @RTS907
    @RTS907 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great fights !

  • @bitkarek
    @bitkarek ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Flankers are very "sexy" planes indeed...

  • @timbaskett6299
    @timbaskett6299 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The Flanker series is definitely one of the best looking fighters on the planet. I'd be curious to see it would perform if the fuselage was designed as a "lifting body" and enlarged LEXes'. The thicker lifting area would, in my mind at least, enhanced lift at high AoA and lower speeds. I may need to build a balsa glider one as MA-001-23.

    • @samblackstone3400
      @samblackstone3400 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I’d be curious to see how it performs with engines that aren’t Russian quality

    • @reboundrides8132
      @reboundrides8132 ปีที่แล้ว

      You should work for Sukhoi.. on second thought they probably have somebody there figuring those things out already

    • @doodooswirl
      @doodooswirl ปีที่แล้ว

      I thought that’s what they were thinking when Sukhoi did the Su-57.

    • @zymuralchemy
      @zymuralchemy ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@samblackstone3400 Thrust they've got, but I've seen su-27s in the air and man are they some smoky bois. Like, F-4 levels of black trails.

  • @devynhale1623
    @devynhale1623 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome dogfighting!!!!

  • @77Avadon77
    @77Avadon77 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good kill at the end! 🥳

  • @aktroy907
    @aktroy907 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was entertaining!

  • @darrylsmith7871
    @darrylsmith7871 ปีที่แล้ว

    Both engines in flames - "I'm still in this fight, guys!"

  • @wvmommy1
    @wvmommy1 ปีที่แล้ว

    In golf we call the first hit that goes into the trees a "Breakfast ball". Same thing😅

  • @Tenderbits
    @Tenderbits ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hey, I’ve been here since 130k and I love your channel. I don’t even play DCS.

  • @Tremeslay
    @Tremeslay ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh yes we're in a beauty! Thank you sir!

  • @SnaketheJake87
    @SnaketheJake87 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Here’s your hold the raptor’s beer for the TH-cam algorithm

  • @smithtechakanya7819
    @smithtechakanya7819 ปีที่แล้ว

    Now that is a shot of freedom

  • @0neBadRabbit
    @0neBadRabbit ปีที่แล้ว

    "Its not over till the fat lady sings.."
    *Exactly 0.3 seconds later*
    "Ok she's singing now lol"

  • @SixSioux
    @SixSioux ปีที่แล้ว

    Sukoi Su-27, possibly the most beautiful aircraft ever made. What a design, curves, shaping.

  • @slaviandi3622
    @slaviandi3622 ปีที่แล้ว

    That flat spin is sooo goood )

  • @gaevs-catchygaxbl3558
    @gaevs-catchygaxbl3558 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "It's not over till the fat woman sings"
    2seconds later
    "The fat woman is singing"
    🤣

  • @jakewebber4567
    @jakewebber4567 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Now we need to see F-22 differential thrust

  • @kabadar
    @kabadar ปีที่แล้ว

    good skill and knowledge, not everybody has knowledge to flies su27 against f22 as you have

  • @yeti8it396
    @yeti8it396 ปีที่แล้ว

    Agreed on the looks of the Flankers .

  • @NobleHusky
    @NobleHusky ปีที่แล้ว

    7:25 - That's very unnerving seeing a F-22 "fix itself" like that. It's like seeing a snake shake it's head and look at you lol

  • @Avscout
    @Avscout ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Now you need a differential thrust F22 v the F15 with the front canards.

  • @smyers820gm
    @smyers820gm ปีที่แล้ว +1

    TOMBSTONE…..”y’all killed two raptors”. 💥💥💥💥💥💥😵😵😵😵😵😵😵💀💀💀💀😂😂😂

  • @deanocallan
    @deanocallan ปีที่แล้ว

    that opening kill was insane

  • @laszlokiss4409
    @laszlokiss4409 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    GS: Im flaring like crazy.
    9x:...and i don't care.

  • @GM-fh5jp
    @GM-fh5jp ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A commendable effort by the Aim 9X in Round 2 to make that sharp turn and kill.
    The little missile that could...

  • @abhinavmathur5648
    @abhinavmathur5648 ปีที่แล้ว

    Growling Sidewinder - "I aint hear no bell, one more round"

  • @busterdee8228
    @busterdee8228 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think on your first kill, you held off your commentary and gave all your attention to the turn. You didn't seem to pull as tight when we were in the cockpit with you. Impressive though.

  • @finnmeldrum7264
    @finnmeldrum7264 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    man the physical models of the aircraft look AMAZING now.

  • @fatbubba2097
    @fatbubba2097 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have fought several fighters in DCS with the F-22, and can say the Su-27 is quite a challenge if you are not paying attention.

  • @NRocky94
    @NRocky94 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have no doubts this is going to be a wild comment section.