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  • @GrowlingSidewinder
    @GrowlingSidewinder  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +63

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    • @franklincerpico7702
      @franklincerpico7702 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It appears that all the acrobatics the Russian can do bleeds speed so much that eventually it becomes a sitting duck.

    • @firebald2915
      @firebald2915 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      " in ten seconds you're gonna explode if you don't explode the other guy. "
      Psychic? Hahaha

    • @Nemo400
      @Nemo400 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It would be a much more interesting if you switch planes among the rounds. Let's say 3 rounds in a Raptor and 3 rounds in the Sukhoi.
      A fighter however capable or incapable it may be could display different performance in the hands of a pilot of you calibre.
      Looking forward to the same dogfight with you on the Sukhoi.

    • @user-su7vq8qn8d
      @user-su7vq8qn8d 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Can you do an F35 mission

    • @aleksandarrudic3694
      @aleksandarrudic3694 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@franklincerpico7702It does not really matter which jet it is, if you are throwing airshow maneuvers and blow your energy recklessly, you will eventually become a gliding brick. The fact that you can do supermaneuverable stuff does not mean that you should, that is, you only should if you can capitalize on it, and if it fails, can recover from it. That's exactly why cobra, for example, has quite a high recommended initiation airspeed (something in the range of 600 - 800 km/h) - so that after the jet recovers from it, it retains enough energy to be usable. You can attempt it at 300 km/h as well, the jet will probably obey and give it to you, but afterwards you are just going to drop from the sky.

  • @jbc242424
    @jbc242424 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1628

    That couldn't have ended any better.

    • @CNCMatrix
      @CNCMatrix 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      Or worse, depending how you're looking at it lol

    • @MichaelGentry-le9nj
      @MichaelGentry-le9nj 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

      “ underestimate your enemy you did..” - Yoda

    • @Copter64
      @Copter64 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      Ended it with a bang

    • @kencadby6586
      @kencadby6586 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

      lol, that was "jamming the personal zone".

    • @3ch0_17
      @3ch0_17 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      The only caveat to staying real close

  • @jeremyortiz2927
    @jeremyortiz2927 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +574

    22 hours later... You almost went a full day resisting the Raptor vs Su30.

    • @grumpy5.3
      @grumpy5.3 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@SweatyFatGuy 🤓

    • @nicholascollins4796
      @nicholascollins4796 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@grumpy5.3bruh, it probably took him half the time to publish the video

    • @grumpy5.3
      @grumpy5.3 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@nicholascollins4796 It's a joke buddy cmon grow up a bit

    • @nicholascollins4796
      @nicholascollins4796 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@grumpy5.3 idk where growing up is calling people nerds 🤷‍♂️

    • @grumpy5.3
      @grumpy5.3 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@nicholascollins4796 You've been living under a rock bud.

  • @GimmeDaBacon
    @GimmeDaBacon 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +128

    The ending 😂 “ayo watch your jet WATCH YOUR JET!”

    • @Alextr1
      @Alextr1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Famous Fox-4, never lets down

    • @James-bv6tz
      @James-bv6tz หลายเดือนก่อน

      iconic😂

  • @Bud_Weedmin
    @Bud_Weedmin 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +457

    Honest to God that second round came down to just shear thrust to weight ratio, beautiful fight

    • @keyboard_g
      @keyboard_g 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

      And the Flanker being already turned 90 degrees before the merge and the F22 started its turn.

    • @11Tits
      @11Tits 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      Not really. Su30 was already 60% of the way through his turn by the time the f22 even decided to pull. If they were not doing merge rule. Then the f22 would have clapped. If the su30 actually followed the merge rule the f22 would have just won instantly… (like not pre turning 50% your turn)

    • @jswjr6001
      @jswjr6001 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah can't imagine when every aircraft has lasers that can at least destroy electronics and radars if not damage aircraft in a 360 no min range wez

    • @tropicthndr
      @tropicthndr 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      It’s not even dogfighting anymore, it’s just two space x rockets flicking their nozzles back and forth around each other. Might as well have a race to see who can land tail first on the ground.

    • @acedogboy8421
      @acedogboy8421 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@11Titsfalse. In the first fight gs turned first. The su was giving him the same treatment.

  • @awoekhn7421
    @awoekhn7421 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    That final round, the ol reliable "fox 4".

  • @Pyreax865
    @Pyreax865 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +488

    I think the SU-30 had the advantage just because the pilot kept lead turning, in most of the rounds the SU-30 was already 50%-60% done with the turn before you even started turning, and you still kept up which is impressive. It seems to me like you waited for the merge to fully happen and the other guy didn’t wait and kept lead turning.

    • @11Tits
      @11Tits 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

      Lead turning doesnt look like this. Lead turning means you are starting to turn just as you reach the merge not a few km back

    • @arkadious9320
      @arkadious9320 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +55

      Yeah most of the rounds the SU30 was starting to crank his turn before GS would giving him an advantage

    • @SuperSirianRigel
      @SuperSirianRigel 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

      Yeah I noticed the other dude was kinda being cheap like that. But GS didn't say anything about it so it's whatever I guess. lol.

    • @Schimiter89
      @Schimiter89 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Yea I was thinking the same thing

    • @koelekahuna9370
      @koelekahuna9370 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Possibly put a 3-5s limit on turning from the merge?

  • @aarontheaviationaddict3643
    @aarontheaviationaddict3643 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +259

    Given how close and tight you two were during the merges, I knew there was going to be a collision eventually 😂.

    • @dennisfuery3426
      @dennisfuery3426 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      To be fair, GS did say they were heading into the merge. :-)

  • @GerryV62
    @GerryV62 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +188

    Yeah, your opponent consistently begins turning before he gets to the merge but all in all, very tight turning for the SU-30. I would have really liked seeing the Tac-view on all 5 rounds. Thank-you for the awesome videos!!!

    • @Francisco_CS
      @Francisco_CS 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      That's what I saw too!

    • @peatbogg3688
      @peatbogg3688 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Agreed. I'd love to see the missile track from that first round.

    • @SuperSirianRigel
      @SuperSirianRigel 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Yeah. I guess GS didn't notice or care? Idk. Seemed like the other guy was being a bit cheap. lol.

    • @NationChosenByGod
      @NationChosenByGod 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      The F-22 nose point is faster than any flankers.

    • @lars9966
      @lars9966 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ever heard of syrian lead turn?

  • @3.9L_V8
    @3.9L_V8 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +82

    These dogfights are almost like WWI dogfights again, the two opponents are so close you could probably reach out and try to punch the other guy! Great flying by the Su-30, watching his missile almost do a full loop to hit you post-kill was a surprise

    • @youtubasoarus
      @youtubasoarus 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      LOL so close they could open the canopies and slap each other 🤣

  • @yazi_b0i63
    @yazi_b0i63 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    "fuck gravity ima do shit my own way"
    - Su-30SM

  • @darkphoenix2
    @darkphoenix2 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +317

    What are dogfights going to look like when aircraft become capable of instantly pointing their nose anywhere without falling out of the sky? These two are nearly at that point already and it seems way too risky for real world situations.

    • @yawningkitty457
      @yawningkitty457 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +71

      Thats why we are moving away from piloted aircraft and it will only get worse once they manage to make beams weapons small enough and powerful enough to mount on a plane.

    • @lewiswatchorn7239
      @lewiswatchorn7239 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

      Rear firing missiles...

    • @user-ft2zc5or9d
      @user-ft2zc5or9d 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +87

      Thats why the Raptor was designed to kill you before it comes to a dogfight lol

    • @birbdad1842
      @birbdad1842 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      ​@@yawningkitty457At that point maneuverability will become pointless since lasers are literally just light weapons. No travel time since its instantaneous effect.

    • @JAEUFM
      @JAEUFM 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      I am waiting for some genius to design some sort of radar system that will give a missile positive tracking from the aircraft to the hostile no matter how the launching aircraft might be orientated.

  • @cs12382
    @cs12382 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I like that the F22 has a hide the body feature after being shot down

  • @christopho3255
    @christopho3255 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

    Seems like the Su-30 initiates his turn long before you merge but perhaps I I'm missing something. The Su-30SM and flanker in general is one of the best looking fighters ever imo.

    • @ricsim78
      @ricsim78 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      For me, The F-22, F-15, Eurofighter Typhoon, and SU-57 are the best looking. The flankers look really good too, but with closer inspection, they have a lot of stuff jutting out of the fuselage that kind of uglies it up a bit. The F-15 EX II with the black paint is really awesome looking. I prefer the US "clean fuselage" look.

    • @bogey_dope_ae
      @bogey_dope_ae 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      It's happening all the time, when GS flew Flanker, Hornet did that too and like almost any other fight.

    • @acedogboy8421
      @acedogboy8421 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ga turned first in first engagement

  • @ian_lewono
    @ian_lewono 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +110

    I'd love to see a bandit unknown with the new flanker

    • @FishNamedWall
      @FishNamedWall 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      but then the bandit would be known, its a flanker

  • @localracer
    @localracer 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    Ahh the return of the “leaf falling from a tree” dogfight. From the grave

  • @dweldredge
    @dweldredge 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

    Striker seems to be jumping the gun just the tiniest bit by turning before the actual merge to give himself an edge in getting his nose around... ;)

    • @Spec-FiveCarr
      @Spec-FiveCarr 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Wasn't there a derogatory maneuver term for that? Something like "a Syrian Cobra"? It was disadvantageous because it got the offending aircraft too slow in front of your nose for an easy kill.

    • @malb1035
      @malb1035 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I’m the first and second round I think the raptor could’ve just gun killed from behind both times because he was so early, but whatever to get an advantage against a 5th gen

    • @johnbessemer3777
      @johnbessemer3777 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      My thoughts exactly. Either a bit of hubris, or humility on the part of GS to allow it in all but the final round. That last round GS committed to the merge about the same time.

    • @alolanrichu1167
      @alolanrichu1167 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      your thinking "syrian lead turn"
      @@Spec-FiveCarr

    • @Daniel-iq5oo
      @Daniel-iq5oo 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      He hurts himself more by doing it then its helping him, beacause he himself minranges his missels.

  • @gibster9624
    @gibster9624 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +59

    Taking getting the point to a whole new level with that final round. The SU-30 quite literally got the point.

  • @lukesummers2446
    @lukesummers2446 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +69

    Do you think a raptor can fit in a two car garage? Asking for a friend.

    • @oddy1637
      @oddy1637 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      no

    • @user-hh1te8lh7b
      @user-hh1te8lh7b 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Raptors are huge, 65ft in length and 40+ft in wing span.

    • @jreyman
      @jreyman 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      No, but there are neighborhoods literally built around an airport runway so you can fly directly to and from your home... They just have hangars in the back yard, or home-like living quarters within a part of the hangar.

    • @trey1477
      @trey1477 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Depends, are talking bout the fighter jet or the pickup truck?

    • @EthanJaye
      @EthanJaye 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The Raptor is big.
      You'd want an even bigger garage than that, preferably bigger than a tennis court.

  • @Hyposonic
    @Hyposonic 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +89

    This highlights the irony of 4.5+ and 5th gen fighters. They maneuver well, but the speed is just above stall--making the engaged aircraft an easy target for any wingmen sitting a mile or two away.

    • @mitchjames9350
      @mitchjames9350 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It really comes down to the pilot.

    • @lvthtxusa
      @lvthtxusa 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      I agree that while one pilot is dancing, prancing, and stalling for position, the best wingman will get the kill...

    • @RogCBrand
      @RogCBrand 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      @@lvthtxusa A bit like Indiana Jones just pulling out his pistol and shooting the man with the amazing sword skills.

    • @Hyposonic
      @Hyposonic 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      @@mitchjames9350 It really comes down to a guy standing on a building beneath these two with a Stinger.

    • @rickwalker2
      @rickwalker2 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Exactly. That’s why super-manoeuvrability is often said to be for airshows only. It’s good fun watching a 1v1 with it though.

  • @jaspyjiindust.9227
    @jaspyjiindust.9227 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    crazy how much of a fight the Su 30sm puts up! also this video was VERY tense!

  • @bb-bricks3040
    @bb-bricks3040 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

    I feel like the Su-30 was getting an unfair advantage by starting its turns before the merge, by the time GS merges he's already halfway done with his turn. Even with that, it was impressive GS was able to survive on most of those rounds, but on round 4 I don't think he would have gotten hit if the Flanker had waited for the merge.

    • @immelmannace4067
      @immelmannace4067 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      If you ain't cheatin', you ain't tryin'.

    • @CallSignVaderDCS
      @CallSignVaderDCS 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      That isn't considered cheating because that is how you jam the WEZ. I'm sure if you see some of the videos you'll see GS doing the same

    • @jmnapigkit
      @jmnapigkit 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CallSignVaderDCSsu30 knows that he’ll lose in turning that’s why he used syrian lead turn

    • @lightningstrike5024
      @lightningstrike5024 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@jmnapigkit its called being a skilled pilot

    • @jmnapigkit
      @jmnapigkit 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@lightningstrike5024 Good thing GS permit enemy to use syrian lead or GS would have put aim9x on him while doing syrian lead turn lol

  • @khoatran-sv7je
    @khoatran-sv7je 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    That archer looping around on round 1 really surprised me, fantastic kill! I'm sure even GS wasn't expecting it 😊. Lovely mutual kill at the end.

  • @Dralaios
    @Dralaios 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    7:38 Such a cinematic view of the F-22 turning in for the kill.

    • @zhenbintoh7253
      @zhenbintoh7253 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Just imagine you witnessed this fight on the ground...

  • @airadve
    @airadve 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    in your dogfights you should swap planes to negate pilot error, i feel like you seem to win the fights more often than not

  • @hatoffnickel
    @hatoffnickel 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    You're so good at bfm that it's hard to gauge the effectiveness of the bandit and its unknown pilot. I wish you would fly the underdog in these videos

    • @GrowlingSidewinder
      @GrowlingSidewinder  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +57

      Well I would argue it’s the plane more than me, but also this fight was only possible in this way because the thrust vectoring model of the f22 is “private” and I’m not allowed to distribute it, so in this fight I can only fly it, can never fly against it. I do wish that could be different though.

    • @antonyvalverde437
      @antonyvalverde437 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      ​@@GrowlingSidewinder Oh that explains a lot, thanks for the clarification.

    • @hatoffnickel
      @hatoffnickel 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      That makes sense, thanks for clarifying. I love watching your fights with the most bfm problems to solve. Happy new years dude

    • @aturboford1
      @aturboford1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@GrowlingSidewinderwould still love to see you retry the Super Hornet matchup as the underdog and how lopsided it would be the other way round

  • @willydstyle
    @willydstyle 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks for giving us what we all wanted! Great performance from both pilots and maybe the most exciting dog fights I've ever seen your channel.

  • @fatsamgr
    @fatsamgr 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Mother of all dogfights, happy new year!

  • @montyx2333
    @montyx2333 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Famous last words: "Splash one, splash on-" F-22 GS (c.a. 2023)

  • @truthseeker9454
    @truthseeker9454 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    2:59 - What I find really interesting is that Fox-2 didn't go for the fireball the Su-30 made. If it would go for a flare, why would it fly past that to hit the F-22? 🤔

    • @GrowlingSidewinder
      @GrowlingSidewinder  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

      It’s maybe using optical image guidance of some kind, these are at the end of the day very new and modern missiles they have a high degree of countermeasure resistance.

    • @truthseeker9454
      @truthseeker9454 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@GrowlingSidewinder Good point, and likely the best explanation if they have that modeled in DCS. Thanks for taking time to reply, and for another edutaining video! 😃

    • @idioluh5838
      @idioluh5838 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@truthseeker9454 the best explanation is "it's modelled in DCS in such a way so missile always homes on it's original target, with some possibility of going towards flares instead. Any other possible targets aren't calculated".
      In reality, it would've almost certainly hit burning flanker. That's why such a "feature" for fox-2 is not only useless, but dangerous.

    • @truthseeker9454
      @truthseeker9454 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@idioluh5838 "It's modelled in DCS in such a way so missile always homes on it's original target, with some possibility of going towards flares instead. Any other possible targets aren't calculated." I'm not convinced it's that simple. I've seen plenty of Fox-2s in DCS go for the Sun.

    • @somewagyuenjoyer
      @somewagyuenjoyer 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's because archers sometimes get a mind of their own and choose to hit no matter the consequences

  • @joelwall13
    @joelwall13 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Is it just me or is that su30 pulling way to early in the merge?

    • @Golgi-Gyges
      @Golgi-Gyges 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      A lot of people are noticing that

  • @remigoldbach9608
    @remigoldbach9608 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I was waiting for this video !!
    It will be interesting to see those beasts dogfighting !

  • @jbc242424
    @jbc242424 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I knew this video would be on its way, but SO SOON?? Awesome.

  • @nicolaskrinis7614
    @nicolaskrinis7614 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    GS, probably one of your best productions. I watched this many times over, it's a classic, great work!

  • @cockatoo010
    @cockatoo010 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    On the 3rd fight he really screwed up getting that low. The cobra, which was necessary to avoid hitting the ground, left him a sitting duck with little energy

    • @sety5591
      @sety5591 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      he kinda keep losing altitude, he is always below GS.

    • @SpencerBaum
      @SpencerBaum 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@sety5591saw that too. I was thinking it could be due to the big trust difference between the aircraft. Going off Google, the su30 has 27000lbs per engine and the f22 has 35000lbs per engine, and the f22 is only 4 thousand pounds heavier, giving it a much better thrust to weight. That probably was what allowed it to stay higher than the su30 in that maneuver

    • @Roflcopter4b
      @Roflcopter4b 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That wasn't a Cobra though. He was just pointed vertical not 120 degrees backwards

    • @SpencerBaum
      @SpencerBaum 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Roflcopter4b I don't know where you got the 120 degrees number from. A cobra is defined as a "maneuver in which an airplane flying at a moderate speed abruptly raises its nose momentarily to a vertical and slightly past vertical attitude"

    • @Roflcopter4b
      @Roflcopter4b 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SpencerBaumYes, slightly past the vertical. Generally around 120 degrees from the horizontal though that's not a hard figure. In any event it certainly must be more than 90 degrees.

  • @btheis2
    @btheis2 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Just what I needed

  • @XTXImperator
    @XTXImperator 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    Great video GS! Striker in the SU-30 really put up a great fight against you, well flown by him!
    But it seems that the F-22 can keep pointing its nose at the Flanker due to its more modern airframe and more powerfull engines (Greater T/W) so the mighty Raptor edges out in that regard.

    • @spinningsquare1325
      @spinningsquare1325 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Su 30SM is a more recent design. I would say its the engines

    • @ropenka30
      @ropenka30 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      The Su-30SM2 has a more powerful engine that gives it 40% more thrust which increases the Su-30s T/W ratio. Would be interesting to see the outcome of that.

    • @mitchjames9350
      @mitchjames9350 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      More to do with the pilot than anything else, his opponent could have given himself space to prevent being jammed as we saw in round 4.

    • @niksonrex88
      @niksonrex88 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@spinningsquare1325how is it a more recent design? Is an upgrade of an airframe from the 70s my dude.

  • @IRLFlightSim
    @IRLFlightSim 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So excited for this one!! An amazing vid as per usual!!❤

  • @emp2312
    @emp2312 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great Dogfight! Now, let's get some YF-23 Dogfights with you in the cockpit! Love the close range fights!

  • @SnubDisphenoid
    @SnubDisphenoid 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

  • @markopolo9718
    @markopolo9718 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Nice to see the Raptor have to work for its food. Absolute slugfest between two amazing birds.

  • @Lee-sti8wrx
    @Lee-sti8wrx 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Su-30 is my favourite flanker. F-22 is my favourite fighter. That was unreal to watch that fight and scary how the missile came back around and kicked you up the ass. Love how both those fighters look. Just thought I would say, I thought he was in the merge already turning way before you in that second round. Not sure how it makes a difference, but you still got a gun kill on him. Again man, taking a jet out with a jet is commitment. Bloody great video man. Much love to the channel bro.

  • @zentriel
    @zentriel 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Well that's definitely going out with a bang!!! excellent video thanks again GS!

  • @ShovelMonkey
    @ShovelMonkey 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Let's see this sight with the YF-23. I am curious how well it's shielded exhausts would perform.

  • @ex-subsailor3480
    @ex-subsailor3480 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Okay, now lets see a BVR fight with the same match up.

  • @worldbreaker1023
    @worldbreaker1023 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Spectacular! Happy New Year!

  • @kcmsterpce
    @kcmsterpce 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing video. Some fun surprises!
    "I am a leaf on the wind... watch how I soar!"

  • @sogerc1
    @sogerc1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    The last round gave me a good laugh 🤣
    GS, would you consider doing this fight from the Sukhoi? I think you could do even better.

  • @joegoveia6499
    @joegoveia6499 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Why is he turning 1/4 mile before the merge? I've seen the syrian lead turn but that was a bit much. He should have had an AIM-9 or guns on him the second he turns.

  • @jamesonburke7981
    @jamesonburke7981 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    These duels are spectacular! I'm literally making popcorn for these fights!

  • @Mycr0bi
    @Mycr0bi 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The last one ooops! :D :D Majestic figths, thanks!

  • @f4zek
    @f4zek 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Very thense video indeed! You showed that the F22 can kill the flanker.
    But why am i suspecting if you would have been the flanker pilot, the scores would have been reversed?
    Next video have to be you flying against the raptor! :)

    • @johanbtheman
      @johanbtheman 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nah, you get what you pay for with GS, he can make RU win if you want. In the last video he shot down 6x f16 with an su57 lol

  • @doge8430
    @doge8430 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Aaaand... Splash 1 Sukho- *WHAM*

    • @jbrowne9381
      @jbrowne9381 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      "Let's finish this with a kill..." Mission accomplished.

  • @kelvaris1
    @kelvaris1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That is one of the best vids you've done. Thank you.

  • @IL2TXGunslinger
    @IL2TXGunslinger 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wondered when this was coming and now here it is! Great

  • @pale_2111
    @pale_2111 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I smell a 4.5 Gen boss fight coming up with the F-15EX.

    • @cockatoo010
      @cockatoo010 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The EX doesn't have TV. It does have an improved FCS, but it's not likely to be as maneuverable as a 22
      I'd expect it to be a bit better than a 15C though

    • @pale_2111
      @pale_2111 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The EX has digital flight control, which increases the AoA. It would be interesting to watch both in BVR and dog fighting. The EX will probably have the edge in BVR.

  • @StlrNtn95
    @StlrNtn95 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    In round 4, he had already turned to point his nose before you had even began turning or the two planes crossed paths. 🤔

  • @curtlarson2585
    @curtlarson2585 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You make it look easy! Fantastic camera work.

  • @justinabaya6622
    @justinabaya6622 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love this channel. Never played dcs but loved fighter jets. These are my favorites things to watch while on the treadmill lol. Btw, the SU30 might be my second favorite jet behind the viper in terms of appearance. Such a sexy and dangerous looking plane.

  • @botondkalocsai5322
    @botondkalocsai5322 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    This video made me extremely curious how the YF-23 would fare against this bestial SU-30SM in turn fight.

    • @phil-1115
      @phil-1115 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That is a good question. The F-22 struggled against the YF-23. It would be interesting.

  • @ascherlafayette8572
    @ascherlafayette8572 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Hi G.S, would you please put links to the mods you use in the description? Sometimes it's hard to tell what versions you're using, where to find downloads, whether the build is private/public release, etc.

  • @D.J._S
    @D.J._S 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good job on staying close. It made all the difference in the end.

  • @TomScott__
    @TomScott__ 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That last battle is what I call "staying close". 😊

  • @csjrogerson2377
    @csjrogerson2377 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The Su30 was always half way through the turn before the planes got to the merge. Lucky your were not killed in the 4th round as the Fox 2 exploded directly above the cockpit. 7 planes destroyed in 5 fights. Dont often see that with GS.

  • @flipadavis
    @flipadavis 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    Maybe I'm seeing things but it seemed like a few merges he was pulling hard before the merge while you were waiting to pass before pulling. That gave him a huge advantage. If you would have responded in kind and immediately started turning into him he would have been toast.

    • @Narsheo
      @Narsheo 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      yeah it looks like the su-30 is turning way earlier

    • @acedogboy8421
      @acedogboy8421 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      False. And first round gs merged first.

    • @jmnapigkit
      @jmnapigkit 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@acedogboy8421you should look again

  • @jdewitt
    @jdewitt 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Aaaassand there we have the 1st clip for next year's "Best Of" reel. Loved it!

  • @Matterian
    @Matterian 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Great video GS!! Insightful entertaining, Just beautiful. I think some compression issues? But still GGs!!

  • @3djgprint580
    @3djgprint580 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome fight! Thank you

  • @SPIN_89
    @SPIN_89 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I audibly gasped out loud at that last kill. Now everyone in Buger King thinks I have an issue 😂😂

  • @Dyrdeksk8r
    @Dyrdeksk8r 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    he was definitely merging earlier than you were, giving him an advantage. ended up not mattering most of the time, but still

    • @GrowlingSidewinder
      @GrowlingSidewinder  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yup, and he was right to do it. Gotta give yourself whatever advantage you can get.

    • @Mike_Romeo
      @Mike_Romeo 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Imagine wars are fought fairly

  • @davidpalmer4184
    @davidpalmer4184 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    With that last "kill" you were saying... Great video though, have a great New Year!

  • @ignitionSoldier
    @ignitionSoldier 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was waitimg for this one. Amazing fight.

  • @somedude1841
    @somedude1841 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The 3 d trust vectoring will make you slow.. Part of the reason the f22 has only 2d trust vectoring to maintain speed and also masking ir signatures

    • @macrossMX
      @macrossMX 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You can see the design philosophies of the two countries from the aircraft itself.
      The F-22 is still carrying over a bit of the energy-maneuver theory in its design, and uses 2d TVC to allow the aircraft to turn as tightly while maintaining its plane of travel.
      the Su-30SM goes all-in with supermaneuvrability to give it the best control at all angles at the cost of energy by being able to deviate its nose from its plane of travel.

  • @RealJordi
    @RealJordi 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The flanker was turning before the merge every time, really cheeky

  • @SplashJohn
    @SplashJohn 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Okay, I gotta admit I laughed out loud at the conclusion. Highly entertaining, thanks GS!

  • @No1harris_98
    @No1harris_98 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Honestly such a cool and intense dogfight, especially with those off bore sight missile launches.

  • @firebald2915
    @firebald2915 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I see... Bandit comes in slow to the merge, goes nose up-ish and kicks the ass around and aims by lowering the rear and staying inside your turn circle. Works great once with Fox2. After that, bandit is a slow leaf going into target mode. Twice.
    Third time is the charm. Bazinga...

    • @fqeagles21
      @fqeagles21 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That’s why 2D has less drawbacks

    • @GrowlingSidewinder
      @GrowlingSidewinder  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Ya also the su30 is famous for having its ass slip out in turns the more it tries to do those super tight radius turns, really good for 1 turn though but after that u gotta catch ur ass as it tries to drag u down.

  • @B14ckic3
    @B14ckic3 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    If Striker used gun mostly the result could have been a lot different.

  • @PracticalRecycling101
    @PracticalRecycling101 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great fight. Really entertaining. Thank you.

  • @SmokinDave7373
    @SmokinDave7373 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Have a great new year GS!

  • @smith7602
    @smith7602 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Am I missing something, or is the bandit turning before they fully merge?

    • @cockatoo010
      @cockatoo010 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yes. You usually lead turn at the merge, otherwise you're giving angles away.
      But you have to know when to lead turn, cuz if you do it too early, you'll give them your 6 for free

    • @oddy1637
      @oddy1637 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Syrian lead turn.

    • @JAnx01
      @JAnx01 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's not frowned upon in the DCS community because it carries its own risks.

  • @lpvonsmonketv
    @lpvonsmonketv 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The Su-30 The su-30 or rather the pilot is not really experienced with the plane, can that be? I mean, he doesn't even shoot with his on-board cannon, although he had the chance to do so several times, but relies fully on his missiles.

  • @cockatoo010
    @cockatoo010 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That ending... Classic GS!

  • @rajat9619
    @rajat9619 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Best dogfight sim video ever, u guys finally hugged each other at last 😂🤣😆😁😝

  • @sgt.grinch3299
    @sgt.grinch3299 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Pilot training and experience plays a big part of the fight. Russian pilots averaging 8 hours a month doesn’t compare to US flight time.

    • @vortex8640
      @vortex8640 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      🤡

    • @jmnapigkit
      @jmnapigkit 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@vortex8640can’t have a proper response cuz it’s true? lol

    • @vortex8640
      @vortex8640 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jmnapigkit Make up your own fairy tales and believe in them yourself lol

    • @jmnapigkit
      @jmnapigkit 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@vortex8640 nah there’s no lol here cuz it’s true, USAF has more flight hours than the entire russian airforce lol

    • @vortex8640
      @vortex8640 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jmnapigkit Where did you get this information from?

  • @lewiswatchorn7239
    @lewiswatchorn7239 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Have to say, that Flanker pilot was jumping the gun a bit on his pull-halfway around his turn before you officially merged.

    • @magnanimus9692
      @magnanimus9692 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That moment made me proud to be a Syrian.

  • @equal3471
    @equal3471 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We all have been waiting for this. Let's go

  • @donkeyballs3081
    @donkeyballs3081 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That was a fun one to watch. I'd like to see the same fight from the Su-30

  • @seaverrubadeau2498
    @seaverrubadeau2498 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    You could honestly gun him before the merge. He was starting his turn WELL before you merged

  • @victorvanhouten
    @victorvanhouten 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Imagine a F16 with 3D trust vectoring…

  • @schoolio64D
    @schoolio64D 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love watching these. The ending was perfect. 💥

  • @Danko05
    @Danko05 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing video love it...!!!
    Looking forward for the one against the Viper.

  • @hunterkneavel7967
    @hunterkneavel7967 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    F-22 still slaps very worthy opponent tho

  • @Nick-rb1vk
    @Nick-rb1vk 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I see F-22 and I click!

  • @CYON4D
    @CYON4D 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The SU-30 is like why wait for the merge? :) Great stuff as always.

  • @Brett_Fleming
    @Brett_Fleming 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love the video! Keep em up!

  • @Nemo400
    @Nemo400 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Clearly the Sukhoi would have outmatched the Raptor in every round if it had been flown by you.
    That was 5 rounds of pure terror.

    • @11Tits
      @11Tits 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      The f22 was only turning after the merge how ever the su30 was turning wayyyy before the merge every time. The F22 would have dogged if the su30 followed the merge rule. Or the f22 just pre turned and also played dirty.

  • @UzairW
    @UzairW 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The Sukhoi was definitely maneuvering even before the merge, not really respectful of the rules of dogfighting in this context. He couldn't have scored the missile kill in the fourth round if he merged properly, as GS did y starting the turn AFTER the aircraft pass each other. Hell, the Su-30 completed half a rotation at the merge.
    We need another match with correct merges.

  • @MarcoPon
    @MarcoPon 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Staying real close indeed! Awesome!

  • @alxavier3795
    @alxavier3795 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Another great fight!
    Both pilots put on a good show!!