Ergotron LX Sit Stand Desk Mount LCD Arm unboxing & installation for Wacom Cintiq 27QHD Touch
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 เม.ย. 2016
- The Wacom 27QHD Touch is undoubtedly an amazing top-of-the-range drawing tablet. In my opinion it's the best one on the market! I love my Wacom Cintiq and use it every day for my digital painting and illustration freelance work. BUT how can you make that experience even better and how can you make your studio look 1000% times cooler at the same time? Simple...
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• Ergotron LX HD Sit-Stand Desk Mount LCD Arm: amzn.to/2nFlZxR
• Wacom Cintiq 27QHD: amzn.to/2nTL6z7
• VESA adapter (I have a video about these too): amzn.to/2mWPmyx or...
• Mount Plus 201D Vesa 400 x 200 Adapter Plate: amzn.to/2nsuCL0
The Ergotron LX Sit Stand Desk Mount LCD Arm is amazing and practically built for this Wacom. I've seen other people use differ arms and run into problems. Watch this in-depth guide and get a detailed feel for the arm and how it works, what's in the kit and how complex it is to put together. You'll also see just how amazing the build quality is from Ergotron. I want to point out now that I'm not an affiliate and I receive no money from anyone if you purchase - I just want to tell you how great this product is and help you improve your own artwork too. So, if you feel like donating to my channel that's great.
Until then, keep on painting!
Lawrence.
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Thanks for the review man. Just got a Cintiq and didn't want to spend $400 on the Wacom stand. This definitely helps.
Happy to help. Link is in the description to the arm you need. This video will help you install it too when it arrives ;D #SpreadTheWord
THANK YOU SO MUCH for your amazingly in-depth videos! I've been on the fence as to what route I want to go with either the regular Ergo stand or the Ergotron and you've convinced me. Your time and efforts are greatly appreciated! Oh, and your artwork is fantastic, btw. Cheers! :-)
Happy to help! Feel free to Tweet me a pic once you get your set-up done! @LAWRENCEcanDRAW
Will do. Thanks again! Btw, what desk are you using?
lol. Everyone asks about the desk! The company went under and there's nothing exactly like it around. If you find a desk as good then Tweet me @LAWRENCEcanDRAW ;D
Thanks a lot for this amazing video - i bought the same model of ergotron for my cintiq 27". This video was very helpful - setup was quick and easy. Finally I am really impressed with its capabilities :)
Glad you like it! Make sure to check out this extra video that might also help: th-cam.com/video/BuoF3KvoXAk/w-d-xo.html and let me know if you think of any cool suggestions on how to make this set-up even better :)
Oh, I know this problem... In Polish we say: kabloza - what sounds like a kind of disease :D
Haha. I've now tidied up even more. Bought myself some of these Cable Concealer kits: amzn.to/2nntAzk so that my studio looks better when it is on camera.
Very detail video, I wish you had more about the actual hole drilling on the table but besides that is a very awesome video, thanks for your time and sharing!
Not much to say about drilling the hole. Just pick a point where you want the hole and drill. Near the back but not too close to the edge. It'll become clear when you have the Ergotron arm in front of you ;)
Thank you very much for your detailed report!
More than welcome. There are more Ergotron videos in my Ergotron playlist for you. More coming soon as well for the new Wacom Cintiq Pro 32". Have a great day!
lol.. you sure can create suspense dude! hahahaah
Thanks man. THIS is the one we are purchasing. And I looooooove your accent!
Haha! Thanks TB :D #SpreadTheWord & Tell Ergotron I sent you ;)
I certainly will.
One other question. Everyone has been complaining about the touch function on the Wacom 27 HD touch Most people say it does not respond and looking at the price difference, it would be a shame to waste that money and the deal breaker does not function.
On the assumption that you use it: how would YOU rate it?
Do you think it is worth investing in for a clean up artist who needs to work fast while zooming in and out.
Grateful in advance for your reply
Lawrence, sorry for bugging you but could you send me a link to the exact adapter you purchased. Everything I have seen on E-bay looks confusing
Don't think it's there any more - will post the video I made on it real soon for you ;D
You're not bugging me btw :)
thank you so much for the video. I'm getting the cintiq 27 myself to replace the 24 HD I had on ergo stand. Because of my spinal injury I found using the cintiq 24 in a comfortable position next to impossible and it was too heavy to put on an arm. I have just sold mine and am now ordering the touch version of the 27 and going to go for the same arm as you have.
I'd like to finish by saying I love your portfolio. Its my kind of art and I loved to view it.
thanks for a great video
regards
Kenny
+Kenny Partington thanks Kenny! Glad I could help. Make sure to watch the installation video to make life easy on yourself. It's not hard to install anyway but watching someone else do it first always helps me.
Glad you like my art. I've just put up a couple of new pieces on my site. Spread the word ;)
THANK YOU! Damn i could find the screw to tighten it. This helped a lot.
Glad to help!
Thank you, Lawrence. You solved a bunch of problems for me. Partly apparently the last two pages of the instructions were missing(!). Totally missing was how to adjust the tension so the monitors didn't continually sag. I too now geek out on the gigantic allen wrench.
I prefer the ergo mount for the 27QHD, it just feels more stable for me. but because the Wacom is so large, I use two of the Ergotrons to hold the monitors (32" UHD Samsung) I use for referencing and rendering.
Thanks for the help. That's the techie side. On the creative side, I love your art, thanks for sharing. And yes, Self Promo=Good!
+kieron1368 Really glad I could help! I was worried that I'd gone into too much detail but obviously you needed that. Glad you like the video and the art. Stay tuned for more :)
Nice to see another left handed artist. :)
They tried to change me to right handed at school when I was a kid because I was ambidextrous. I picked left because I was awkward! haha.
Nope, I was born left-handed, and I will die left-handed. No right hand for me, except for scratching my ass maybe. :)
You obviously didn't go to a Catholic school then! lol. The don't like us southpaws!
Hey Lawrence, great video thanks for this: do you think a 2cm thick MDF wood table will be enough to sustain the drilled hole setup? Or even the clamp??
2cm MDF should be fine. I imagine this is a treated / finished MDF? You will get a good sense for how the arm feels when it is on the desk anyway. It will also make a difference depending on the legs / supports and what else is on the desk of course. Happy New Year!
This is one of the most amazing building demonstration video I've seen so far. Very explanatory and does show everything you need to know. I can tell you're a very meticulous person.
You mentioned in another comment something about adding an arm to this? I didn't know that was possible and would definitely help me. It's only for a light 24" monitor but I need to get it in front of me from quite a distance of at least 35-40" while adding the 90 degree angle needed as well.
Adding an extension piece will lower the weight capacity of the arm. That's basically what I was saying! Most people don't seem to understand that. Then they wonder why it's not as stable for them. I would recommend attaching the arm to the side of the desk if possible if that helps bring it closer or drilling through the desk and clamping as I did if you only need a few inches! That'll also make it more stable over all.
Thank you for all your previous information. I finally got the box and getting ready to install it all tomorrow. However, I was wondering what size of drill bit you used to do the hole? I'm going to also put it directly through the desk instead of using the clamp, but I want to make sure I don't use a bigger bit then I need to.
Hi Lawrence.
I had a few problems with the arm- but caused by my desk. I had not anticipated how tall the column was as I intended to fit it under the fixed shelf above the desk I have. I'm a disabled artist and had a desk specially made with a large shelf above the desk surface but the arm is an inch and a half too tall to fit under. I've ended up having to basically get a matching piece of wood and turn the desk into an L shaped desk so the arm and Cintiq will be in a different position. Its worked out well in the end because when I do unpack the cintiq 27 from its box and follow your instructions to mount the arm on the back of it and place it, it will be easier. I'm going to take your advice and get help to lift the cintiq into place. I have a spinal injury so lifting it on my own I dont want to do.
I'm looking forward to getting everything running and starting to learn how to draw again. I kind of lost my skills after the accident but I am slowly building them back. Thanks for the video because quite honestly the instruction manual that comes with the arm is total pants!
I will spread the word. I think your work is amazing.
You can get shorter arms. I had one for the other arm. Glad my videos have been useful for you ;) Send my a pic of your set-up via Twitter @LAWRENCEcanDRAW
will do!
Thank you for the video very much! I was looking for solution for my Cintiq. I bought exactly the same arm after and was watching your video while was installing it. Probably without this video I could spend much more time and possibly damage my wacom. xo xo xo
Happy to help!! Share the video :D
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@@LAWRENCEcanDRAW Merry Christmas to you too :). Love your channel
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Thanks for this video, Lawrence. Helped a lot and I've decided to go ahead and buy one of these myself. I have a question as well though. Sort of related, sort of not. My Cintiq 27 qhd doesn't have the rubber grips on the bottom of the base anymore, and I can't actually find them. Do you know if it's possible to buy these separately or whether there's a handy alternative? I'm just worried about the tablet sliding without any sort of grip to hold it. No worries if you don't know, just thought I'd come to you as I'm guessing you have an idea. Thanks.
Happy to help Joe!! If you message Ergotron from their site or on Twitter/Facebook then I'm sure they'll help you out. They are a super bunch! Let me know how you get on with that and it you have no luck then I'll try help you out from my end!!
thank you, you angel
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Do you know if you need the adaptors for a Cintiq22 HD? Thanks for the video man!
If I remember correctly it's a straight 100x100 VESA fit. No adapter needed. Older Wacom though. Somebody donating one your way?
26:00 I believe you have mounted the 4 200x100mm extention screw bracket the reverse side, the bracket should be sit flush to the monitor not bended inwards.
That's what I thought as well. I followed the instructions and this was the way it said to use them. The VESA mount has been 100% stable so no complaints either way. I will say that I prefer a one-piece bracket for peace-of-mind so have just picked one up. This is because I'm mounting something else to the arm as well though. Video on that is coming shortly!
Hi Lawrence , i bought cintiq 27QHD non touch with ergotron arm LX , and Arrowmounts AM-201D Vesa 400 x 200 adaptor , right now i am doomed the adapter is not centered and the screen is not balanced on the arm , am i doing something wrong like i bought the wrong adapter ? if so would you please recommend adapter for me . many thanks .
Was it this LX Sit Stand Desk Mount LCD arm or the regular LX arm? If it was the regular LX arm (that I've shown in previous videos with the Wacom 21UX) then it's probably just the case of that arm not being able to cope with the weight of the 27QHD. If you have this arm then it's most likely a matter of adjusting the tension bolts on the arm as per the manual.
Hi, Lawrence. Thx for video, it pushed me to buy this device. I draw a lot and daily and ran into a problem. The problem is that the tablet swings by weight, constant shaking during work is very annoying and you have to hold the tablet with your hands. On a standard stand, the tablet is stable and when you switch to Ergotron, this is strongly felt. How did you cope with this problem?
Thanks again for the video.
Hey, glad I could help! If you have time then I'd appreciate a quick tweet to Ergotron on Twitter or Facebook to let them know I've helped you! Does me good to let companies know ;D #SpreadTheWord!
Have you tightened the joints properly? Try going around each one again with the allen keys again. I keep mine handy by the desk and every couple of months just give them a quick squeeze. Also - don't lean on your tablet. It's bad for the screen anyway. You may not realise you're doing it but it'll take years off the Wacom and that causes the problem for most people. You just have to train yourself to 'work above'it. I had to learn this back when I was inking comics because of smudging! haha. Joy oh joy!
Thanks for the answer. I do not lean on the tablet, I'm not an idiot) The tablet swings even with accurate work with the pen, the key, unfortunately, does not solve this problem. At the moment I'm working with an improvised emphasis (put a towel on table), but it's a crutch. On your video, the tablet also swings when you're working, but apparently you're used to this style of work. I'll try to work another week with Ergotron, if not accustomed, then I will return the original stand.
I have to tell people all the time not to lean on tablets. lol. I see it a lot in other videos. Some people don't even realise they do it so it's worth saying you understand.
There is a slight movement of course but it's ever so small. How much is yours moving? It'll never be rock solid of course - you know that because you can't lock off the joints. These things are made for monitors and not tablets.
Hi , This is really nice presentation , is it possible to know when you were drawing on top ,is it the Wacom device easy to slide down as well ? Please let me know .Thanks
You can make a lot of adjustments to the tension so that's really up to you. I find there are a couple of positions which give me maximum stability. When you want to move the Wacom tablet, gently pulling with both hands gives you enough momentum to pivot the tablet to your next drawing position.
Thanks a lot for the detail answer ! I need to buy one to try . Cheers!
No worries! Links in the description!
Thanks a lot Lawrence , I already bought the regular one which is really useful and fit the the drawing posture.
It completely solved my several years neck pain problem ! Thanks !!
No worries. Ergonomics are very important for artists! Make sure to check out the playlist 'Ergonomics for Artists' on my channel ;)
This video help me hugely a year ago when I bought my cintiq 27. I have the LX HD, its so good. Now I want to mount my second 27" monitor (just a normal monitor) to the same base unit. Do you know if the standard LX series arms are compatible with the LX HD base?
Some of the arms have poles with different diameters. The LX HD is thicker than the standard LX arm.
Ok, back to the drawing board I guess. Thanks for your help!
You can buy the poles on their own from Ergotron.
I didn't expect it to rotate as well. Is this by Ergotron out of the box?
Oh yes!! Check out my other Ergotron videos in the playlist. Once you have one on your monitor or drawing tablet it will change your life - links in the description!!
Hi, did you mention that you had replaced the ergo / cintiq mounting parts with a single plate? If so, can you provide a link as to which one that you have used? Thanks!
I just bought the right size (200x100) VESA one-piece adaptor from ebay. The fittings are universal. As long as it's good quality you shouldn't have an issue! Hope that helps! #SubscribeAndShare
I was wondering about that adapter cos Ergotron had only the 100X100 in their sample images.
I kind of missed where you replaced that though
Just put on the Ergotron HX atm and then my cintiq 24 pro. I must say that my monitor doesnt tilt foward anymore.
People who moan about tablets and arm either do it because they didn't buy the right arm or even worse, just didn't set their arm up correctly - well done on both counts buddy!!
I'm unable to clamp anything to the back of my desk, is this secure and stable if I simply mount it by drilling holes into my desk for my cintiq 27qhd? You don't have to use the desk clamp right?
It's actually more secure. That's why I decided to do it ;D
Guys, I have bought Ergotron LX arm for my cintiq 22 Hd, my desk is from IKEA and it was a cheaper desk (just that board with those adjustable legs) and my cintiq mounted on Ergotron broke my desk, it just lifted that part where it was clamped coz of the weight. Does anyone have any idea where to look for a better desk which is more compatible with Ergotron and that it doesn't cost a FORTUNE, any tips would be much appreciated :) Cheers!
A lot of people have said how much they want my desk. haha. It's no longer available BUT Ikea sell kitchen counter that is white, they will cut to size and you can bolt their sturdier office legs to in order to make a good desk! Take a look and see what you think. Let me know if that helps!
Lena Mastruko could’ve told you that. ikea desks aren’t solid wood
This has been very helpful. I'm getting pretty bad tennis elbow from working on the Cintiq. Just to make double sure..is the part number for the one you are installing 45-384-026? I'm working with a Wacom 21UX. I went to the Ergotron website and this seems to be the one you have...the LX HD Sit-Stand Desk Mount LCD Arm...thanks a million for your in-depth reviews!
That's the one! Make sure your desk is sturdy enough (not thin chipboard) and if you can, drill a hole and bolt it through for extra stability. Tweet or email Ergotron & Wacom and let them know I helped ;) #SpreadTheWord
thanks LAWRENCEcanDRAW. When I talk to Ergotron I'll absolutely bring up your name...it has been a big help. I'm trying to avoid a career ending injury. So thanks for helping out.
No worries! Glad to help ;)
I just setup my LX Ergotrom. I didn't realize it only allows 5 degrees down tilt when I bought it. I hoped to be able to use it from my couch as easy chair as well, with it above me. I guess that's why they called it stand and sit. I have wrote them about it. Also I've tried to adjust the tilt so it stays in place on the 5 degrees down but it just floats back up to the 0 degrees no matter which way I turn the screw. Maybe I'd need to mount it on the ceiling to get the angle I want...lol
Did you watch my videos before you purchased it? I did show the full range of motion in a couple of them. Let me know how you get on with it. One option might just be to get a lower desk/platform to mount it on. Did you get the tall pole?
@@LAWRENCEcanDRAW Hi Lawrence, it was completely my mistake. I think the arm is great, very well built. I heard of people cutting or bending the stops out so it goes more then 5 degrees on the down turn so basically the screen faces down if you were more in a horizontal position. I did write Ergotrom to ask their opinion on the subject but they haven't responded. I am wondering why they put the stoppers in, if it was for safety. The few that have done this don't say anything about it not being secure or any other issues because they did this, though it might effect warranty if it ever came up.
I now have a response from Ergotrom, I will quote it, "Removing the stoppers is not a safety issue but we do not recommend it and it will void the warranty.
The only suggestion they have on the tilt not holding is to continue decreasing lift strength (counterclockwise). It may take many turns for it to hold on the downward tilt."
That did pass through my mind as well but I imagined you had adjusted this as much as possible already?
@@LAWRENCEcanDRAW I tightened it as much as I could, it slowed down but still slowly goes back up. Any tighter I feel like I will break the allen key or my scrape my hand trying. They responded one more time after this, and I quote what they said.
" I am not sure what was behind this design, but it does have that limitation. I apologize this product isn't working for you.
We have a different product that has a 90 degree forward and backward tilt. Perhaps this would work better for you.
MXV Desk Monitor Arm, Part No. 45-486-026 .
"
I'd still prefer this arm because of the reach.
You've used both the LX Sit and Stand arm as Well as the standard LX. Have you used the standard LX with the 27QHD? What's the difference in reach? Im keen to know if the standard LX is long enough to allow the screen to be clamped at the rear and then reach and be used the edge of the desk without any issues? Cheers
You can't use the standard LX with the 27QHD. It can't hold the weight and the arm will constantly lower whenever you let go of it. The reach isn't as good on the standard LX either. Note; if you use extension arms, this lowers the weight capabilities of the arm you use. The LX LCD Sit/Stand I show here and have a link to in the description can handle the 27QHD but not when you add an extension. It's reach is great though. If the reach isn't long enough then you can drill a hole and place it closer to you and that will also make it more secure.
Thanks a lot for the info. Great Reviews and demos, really helping the decision making!
Any time! Tweet me @LAWRENCEcanDRAW and let me know what you pick!
Hi Lawrence, thank you for the helpful videos! I'm trying to get the hd sit stand arm but can't find a retailer that will send it to my country... I did find the older sit stand and the regular lx arms in local stores, both of them suppose to handle up to 11.3kg do you think they will work the same as yours? thanks again!
HI Udi, I use the normal LX arm for my laptop. I used to use it with the Cintiq 21UX and that was great. But the 27QHD is of a certain size and weight that it really needs a bigger arm, otherwise it won't support the tablet. I talked directly to Ergotron about this and they advised me on this arm so I'd say it's probably best to keep looking.
What country are you in? Have you tried buying directly from Ergotron? You could contact them via Twitter to ask about suppliers in your area.
thanks for replying! I'm from Israel, the Ergotron site is where i found the stores here but only one of them have this specific model and they sell it for more than the original Wacom ergo stand costs here (630$!), I'm wondering about the regular sit-stand (not HD), it looks exactly the same only the weight capacity is a bit lower, still in the cintiq range though
I'll try asking Ergotron on Tweeter. thank you!
Are you wanting to fit the 27QHD to it?
LAWRENCEcanDRAW Yes
well, the Ergotron people told me they do not officially support Cintiq tablet but said I might find all the answers I need at the attached link. it was your youtube channel... :) I Will keep looking for a foreign vendor that will send me the sit-stnd Hd or just buy the wacom one. thank you very much! you have a great channel!
Does the Ergotron LX Sit Stand Desk Mount LCD Arm come with the brackets for the Cintiq 27 QHD TOUCH, I watched the video didn't catch if I need to buy the bracket and which one.
Mine did. The four adjustable piece VESA mount shown in this video came with the Ergotron. I also have a video all about VESA mounts with some links to good mounts in the description. Keep in mind that many display arm manufacturers don't supply the VESA mounts!
Thanks for the heads up.
No worries. Check the contents list if available. and you can always ask your retailer directly!
hi
Nice videos
I just bought a lx myself. what bracket did you buy to connect to the cintiq?
+Niles Crane You can get any of them from eBay. Just get a 200x100 VESA ADAPTOR. Try to get a one piece as it'll be more steady.
If you're buying direct from Ergotron then you can get a VESA mount from them too.
Hope that helps.
LAWRENCEcanDRAW
it will. I just had to return my ergotron lx, it could not hold my Cintiq 27..
is yours the ergotron lx hd?
"Erogotron LX Sit-Stand Desk Mount LCD Arm" I mention it several times by name in full in the video. That is the arm I have. Works perfectly. I chose that after advice directly from Ergotron. They've been great! The standard LX Arm can't handle the weight but if you look at the specs on the site and match it to your Wacom you'll be okay.
Thanks for this, should prove helpful, my ergotron LX sit-stand arm arrived the other day, just ordered the 27QHD (had to go for non-touch, wouldn't have been able to get away with spending nearly 2 grand for something i'd probably only use in zbrush anyway.) that should arrive by wednesday. My only issue with the ergotron's instructions is they're lacking a little annotation in parts, so i'd know WHAT tools i'd need, i one is needed that isn't supplied, for the clamp bracers, hopefully i can find something to tighten them properly with, if i can't find whatever the instructions are telling me to use.
Lots of people have said they've used this when installing the arm as an instruction manual. All the tools come with the arm but grab some screwdrivers too! Have fun!! The instructions that come with the arm are easy to follow so using this video and the instructions will make everything really quick and simple!!
Well, i looked through the box and found all the allen wrenches and screws and such, only thing i didn't find was that tool needed to tighten the clamps up, ive got a ratchet screwdriver that has interchangable heads, maybe that'll do.
Let me know how it goes! Maybe Tweet some set-up pics @LAWRENCEcanDRAW
Will do :)
And now following you :) my twitter is @AnthonyA85 though i don't really use it, i'm just on there to keep up with a few people.
I have shorten the pole, works great now!
Oh yeah! And even if you get the Tall-Poll I wouldn't go all the way to the top with such a heavy tablet!
Yeah mine uper arm can now rotate 360*
Hi Lawrence, I am just curious why you decided to use the grommet instead of the clamp.
The grommet is simply more secure and with an arm and tablet this large it's nice to have that added security. Also, I have a large desk with a depth of 80cm front to back and if I use the clamp then it has to be mounted right at the back but using the grommet I can bring the arm closer and get more length/reach which is great. Okay, so you do have to drill a hole in your desk but having used an Ergotron arm previously, I was happy to do so. Hope that helps!
That helps alot thanks very much for the feedback
No worries #SpreadTheWord
Why doesnt any video show the max upward vertical movement of this arm?
Try one of my other, many videos ;D th-cam.com/video/OlQUyT6lSoM/w-d-xo.html
can you buy the ergatron poles seperate? mines too short
Yup ;D amzn.to/2sY302Q or via Ergotron directly! Hope that helps
Hi Lawrence i would like to ask you if i can put the arm in the wall it is possibly? Congratiolations for your Channel 👍Tranks man 😉
What country you in?
Lawrence Mann im from Germany but im portuguese 👍
This is the arm you want: Ergotron LX HD Sit-Stand Wall Mount LCD Arm: amzn.to/2Bgr1JE
Lawrence Mann thank you for help me 🖒 congratulations for your channel
Thanks for the video - would I need the VESA adapter for either the 22HD or the 27QHD? Thanks.
Certainly for the 27QHD. Here's a link to one that will do perfectly for you: amzn.to/2oRlsZe I'm not sure if the 22HD uses 200x100 or 100x100 mounting. You've have to check the specs.
I have the 22HD touch version. The regular Ergotron arm & hook ups (100 x 100) work fine with it. I've also seen a couple of videos with the Amazon Basics version of the Ergotron arm work fine & dandy with the 22" version. It's the 27" version that appears to need some extra hook ups on the Ergotron side.
The 22" version is 20 ibs, & the Ergotron has no problems with the weight. I hear that the 27" is actually a bit lighter then the screen I have. If true, then it should be zero hassles, apart from that extra Ergotron hook up.
I've heard a couple of people mention those Amazon arms in the past but my argument is - why pay a lot of money for a great tablet just to mount it on the cheapest thing you can find?!?! They handle the stresses and strains as well as the Ergotron brand arms and if something goes wrong then your expensive tablet smashes to the ground. Wacom won't replace it either because they'll just tell you that you dropped it and even under warranty that's your fault. Sure, search out another brand if you can find a really good one you like but don't trust what could be a few thousands of dollars to balance on the budget arm.
Also Ergotron has a really good Warranty. Not sure what the Amazon one has off the top of my head. The cheap on might work if you never ever moved it but I'd also like to point out that if you're an artist who likes to move your tablet around a lot (probably why you want an arm) then that's where you need an arm that's better built!
Which arm are you using with your 22HD? Is it the standard LX (amzn.to/2nssz9N) Or is it the arm in this video? LX Sit-Stand Desk Mount LCD Arm: amzn.to/2nFlZxR
The standard LX. Probably the best purchase I got for my Cintiq, next to the screen protector (made of money I am NOT). Hindsight being 20/20, I probably should have gotten the optional extension for the arm, but I can always get that at a later date.
You can use the extensions but not with the 27QHD on either arm. Every time you put an extension arm on, you reduce the load capacity of the arm and you have to account for that. Cross-check all specs for weight and size before creating a set-up ;) If you;re not sure then Tweet @Ergotron + @LAWRENCEcanDRAW and we'll both try help!
Very nice video, I am pondering if I should mount my 24HD on one of those arms as well. (both for desk space and cable management) I am however concerned about it's weight, and if there's a wobble in the arm while working. Nobody likes a moving canvas! xD
I have a video about choosing the right arm for your tablet - you can find that in my Ergotron playlist. That will make sure you don't get any wobble. This arm is probably the best one for the 24HD though!
The last few websites I checked say this stand can only hold 11.3 kg though. While my tablet surely is heavier then that (almost 15 kg!).
I really can't take that risk! I suppose the 27QHD Touch is lighter?
Thank you for your kind responds though, ill keep on searching for alternatives.
This explains properly how to check: th-cam.com/video/1uqb_uugqr0/w-d-xo.html
I didn't realise the 24HD was so heavy :O It's been a long time! lol. In that case then I'd go for the HX arm. I've got a video of that on my Dell Canvas. It's a beast of an arm and will hold 20kg+
Oh! Thanks so much for the information. :)
I used to hate monitor arm but after I tried it for the first time, there is no turning back to monitor stand again.
A lot of people think they are just for show but they are amazingly good for your posture, back & neck pain etc. You should check out my 'ergonomics for artists' playlists.
Any information on where to get an awesome white table similar to yours?
Other people have asked and I've looked into it but the company who made it have gone bust and the company I bought if from were not much help in finding other similar desks. Sorry :(
hi, you can get the exact same tabletop from ikea's personlig range. they will custom make it with thickness from 2.8cm -7cm they even offer aluminium trim which I got myself. I just bought some industrail legs separately. 😉 if you want a pic of mine I'll post a link.
That's kitchen counter-top, I just looked it up! lol It'll do the job but it's not the "Exact" same and you have to have seperate legs. I have two huge sturdy legs that are built to house computers and other goodies. You can see them for yourself in the video. They are a big reason I love this desk. Ikea's counter is only 63cm in depth where as mine is 80cm.
The Ikea top is a good idea for a clean white desk. Ultimately with an Ergotron you need a strong sturdy desk. As long as you've got that then you're set! Hope it works out well. Post some pics on Twitter when you've got it together and let me see @LAWRENCEcanDRAW
LAWRENCEcanDRAW I terms of look/size you can get Ikea to 'custom make' the EXACT same looking table top "counter top" as yours, not there is a difference with the tops unless yours is made from a special unknown material. Then you can make or use what ever you wont to hold it up, legs/cabinets whatever. This is better as you can make the desk more unique than just a standard store bought item. :)
some example here, these have a added optional cool aluminium edge but yeah..
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www.flickr.com/photos/tmconnect/sets/72157604072156962/
That looks good but I'm happy with my limited-edition 'store bought' desk. I like the dipped storage at either side. Fits my needs perfectly for now!
Next time I'm actually gonna go for a sit/stand ergonomic desk from +Ergotron. It's important to be able to work ergonomically when you're at your desk drawing & painting for 12-18 hours a day. While I do love my desk, I want to improve my studio space further - Maybe move away from the big bulky desk and go for something more streamlined & based around a way of working rather than having a great looking desk that makes a statement.
With a son now playing in the studio too, it's time to make the office more kid-friendly and have more floor space. That's another factor in wanting the sit/stand desk rather than this behemoth. haha. I'm thinking of getting rid of my chair altogether and having an ergonomic still which is smaller and child-friendly too.
All of these decisions also come from wanting to make the studio better for filming future TH-cam videos too.
You just reminded be that I had a blue desk about ten years ago with aluminum trim that was from Ikea. It was actually two desks put together as an 'L' shape with pole legs and cable organisation underneath. Nice desk at the time.
where did you get the bars at 26.00? was that part of the cintiqs box?
The four part VESA adapter? That came with the Ergotron arm! You cam also buy them separately on Amazon: amzn.to/2vkUVLi - I've got a whole video all about VESA adapters too ;) th-cam.com/video/i06c2rmKpak/w-d-xo.html Hope that helps! #SpreadTheWord
oh l have the lx desk mount ergotron arm, it didn't come with them. Trying to mount a cintiq 22hd and l kinda ran into a wall with the...vesa adaptor. Thank you so much for your step by step guide, l learnt a lot
l'll check out that video too, thank you
Ah, standard LX arms are slightly different but won't come with the VESA adapters because they can't support larger monitors & tablets. The 22hd is the largest (maybe the 24 at a push) that the LX can handle. Check the weight & size specs on the official site just to be 100% sure. You'll need to compare them with the specs of the tablet you are using. Little bit of math but if you consider upgrading your tablet then it's good to know for sure if the arm can take it!
l looked up several reviews for the combo of the LX and the 22hd, most said positive results so l'll order in a adaptor and give it a try. l'll let you know how it works out. Did you have a recomendation for an adapter for the 22hd?
Which country are you in? I'll send you links to a couple of types I recommend.
Hello anyone here please help me!! I bought a second hand ergo stand for my Wacom Cintiq 27 Touch, but the 4 silver screws (of the silver and the black ones) are missing. I would love to mount the Cintiq, but I need to know the size of the missing screws. The pitch should be something like around 12mm, but I'm missing the width! Please, if anyone has them in handy and could tell me the size, I'd be very grateful! THANK YOU :=)
Sorry I don't have a bolt gauge to measure the screws. I would advice Tweeting or asking Wacom or Ergotron directly what the screw type is. Hope that helps!
I love your videos. They are really helpful and encouraging when having serious doubts for making a choice. I still doubt between the ergotron and the wacom ergostand, because my habits...I tend to rest over the drawing surface (As I am a long time artist in an old fashion regular board table) so I am worried if the ergotron can actually stand YOU resting a bit over the cintiq or if it has a position or button that makes the arm totally rigid at your will. I dont know if I am being clear. Maybe you said in the video and I missed it.....your accent is hard for me. regards.
My tablet rests on my desk and the Ergotron arm allows me to move it around when I need to. When it is rested then it I can lean on it just fine! Hope that helps ;D
yeah, That helps. It means you can't lean on it if you are working "standing" or if it doesnt rest somewhere (for me that´s important because I hve then to think on the hight of the desk as well (I have some back pain and I need to be extra careful) thank you for your quick answer. Best regards.
Yeah you have to adapt the way you work but ask yourself if you'd prefer to rotate your Cintiq and be able to easily move it around the desk space? Also, being able to work standing is hugely beneficial if you're drawing for long periods of time! Do you get a stiff neck or back?
Actually I would love to be able to work standing and rotate....if the arm allows me to do it...after your kind response I will tell you how it finally goes when I set it all up.
Good to hear Ivan :D Nice to know what my fellow artists are looking for. Keep in touch and let know what you go for. BTW, If you draw on the iPad then you can get a JoyFactory arm like the Ergotron arm, that does lock into place. Check out the videos on my channel for that if it is of use to you ;) #SpreadTheWord
That thing need to drill a hole on the table ? can we use it without drill on table ????
It comes with a clamp attachment too but given the weight of the arm & the tablet I suggest it is better to fix the arm like this. You need to have a sturdy desk as well either way you attach it.
ah thanks
No worries! More Ergotron videos coming soon ;)
Strange , I ordered the same ergotron LX arm and my mast is not that high as yours 😑
I think there is an alternative with a similar name. Lots of options on the Ergotron site to choose from. You don't really need the height so I wouldn't worry about it :D The arm is more secure if you have it lower to the desk. You can always contact +Ergotron if you're worried they sent out the wrong part. They're awesome at customer service ;) Hope that helps? #ShareTheLink :D
Sorry, i was wrong, i don't have the standing LX 🙂
:O oh
Does the ergotron fight you/want to go up?
No because I've made the right adjustments with the hexagonal keys. I show this step in the video. Are you having that problem?
@@LAWRENCEcanDRAW I was with the lighter monitors but the weight of a cintiq took care of this.
Wait so the vesa adapter came with your arm?
Yes but I've heard somebody say they didn't get one. I'm not 100% sure if they ordered direct or if there were other factors involved though. I got mine in the box and it was also marked as included on the instructions. Hope that helps.
I did replace it with the RiteAV VESA Adapter Mount for LCD & Plasma TVs (Identical to the one I show here): amzn.to/2oEgXkq for a time until I had to mount something else onto the arm in a later video :D
No muestras como ajustar para,que quede totalmente vertical la pantalla
Simplemente sostenga la tableta o la pantalla y muévala con las manos. Si no está seguro, tengo muchos otros videos de Ergotron que muestran la configuración y el uso de los brazos, también lo ayudarán.
lol the sound only on right left monitor, i cant hear that its to annoying,
Hi, do you think this will hold a 34" ultra wide monitor?
It's not necessarily about the size. It's more about the weight. Best thing to do is check the weight of the monitor against the weight capacity of the arm. You can find these listed on the product pages on the manufactures websites for both Ergotron and the company which creates your monitor. Remember that arm extentions reduce weight capacity. You'll also need to feel comfortable that your desk is solid and sturdy enough to handle the weight of your set-up. If you're still unsure then Tweet @Ergotron and double check your info. Hope that helps! #ShareALink ;D
Thanks man. Their site recommended the most expensive arm instead of the Tall LX Arm which can also hold the weight of my monitor which is 6.4kg lol
That's the arm I'm using for the 27" Cintiq here. I thought that would be the arm you need. It is a big screen you want to mount though! Glad to be of help! Make a comment if you purchase it. #ShareIfYouCare
Yours is the LX "sit stand" tall, the one I might get is just the LX desk mount tall. I really don't know the real difference as they both support the weight. Anywho I will drop a line if I pull the trigger.
Not 100% sure without looking at the specs. Maybe it is that the Sit/stand version has a longer pole.
It seems to keep lowering on you, how tight can you actually make it to where it really doesn't lower?
That's because I'd only just installed it and it still needed adjusting. I didn't think 99% of people would spot it in the video - they didn't ;) haha
you realized it that you have mounted the extension brackets VESA, on the contrary?
The 4 arms are slightly bent in L, and must protrude toward the outside (toward the monitor) not inwards ... Check them. Risk of straining the rear plastic of your cintiq. ;)
That was fixed straight away after filming. I've since replaced the four
arms with a more dedicated one piece bracket which is more sturdy all
together!
Hi Lawrence thanks for the review! In this comment above, have you changed the arms for something else? I want to order the LX sit and stand for my Cintiq 22HD.
Hi Mike, not the arms of the Cintiq. Just the VESA adapter (four little arms that attach the Cintiq to the Ergotron arm). I simply ordered a normal one-piece 200x100 VESA adapter on eBay. Hope that helps!
Hi Lawrence. I have a Cintiq 27qhd and I'm switching from the Ergo stand to the sit-stand desk mount and just ordered it. Could you send me a link to the VESA adapter you bought so I know what it looks like? I've seen several with reviews and there are people are taking about needing longer screws.
Are either of these the one you bought? www.amazon.com/Atdec-AC-AP-2010-Adaptor-200x100mm-75x75mm/dp/B002N8A1GU/ref=cm_rdp_product and www.amazon.com/Universal-Adapter-Medium-Mounts-Bracket/dp/B00U3DQO6I/ref=sr_1_19?ie=UTF8&qid=1483683321&sr=8-19&keywords=vesa+adapter
As long as it's 200x100 it should be fine. Sorry I don't click on links or offer personal recommendations unless you're a Patreon - No offense. I just have to be strict about my time ;) Sure you understand. Here's the link if you want to check it out - www.patreon.com/LAWRENCEcanDRAW - Lot's of cool stuff!
CAN I ASK HOW BIG IS THAT HOLE?
Can't remember. It just has to be big enough for the bolt to go through. That's it. Don't make it any bigger than you need to. A few mm won't make a difference. As long as both plates cover the hole completely.
THANKS LAWRENCE
Sorry I couldn't give you an exact measurement but I guess 'the why' is more important sometimes! Hope it helps. If it does, spread the word ;D
Was this a review or were you trying to make fun of the product ?????
Maybe you should have gotten someone to help you assemble the product..
Why do you assume I'm trying to make fun of the arm? Obviously I want to have a bit of light hearted humor with it but that's it.
As for someone to help in the videos, I'd love to if there was someone I could trust.