It's a good job it wasn't raining as it so often does here in the UK, that's why I think all chargers need to be either undercover with solar panels on the roofs of the shelters or underground parking.
After taking delivery of my VW ID.3 in May 22 I also tried out public chargers to gain familiarity. This included Tesla (available for non Tesla the week I took delivery of my VW), Ionity, Podpoint and Shell recharge. A month later I jumped in the deep end with my first long drive to Zurich and then onto Pisa!
ICE owners would never believe me but honestly a lot of the time my Model Y is charging too quick! By the time you've walked into the services, used the toilet, got a coffee and walked back to the car, its nagging me to get a move on! I genuinely enjoy the excuse to stop for a break.
i rented the mg4 for 4 days,absolutly briliant car,the best i ever driven,and the best part is they put the charging port on the tesla side,so i could use the tesla chargers who were pretty much the only option i had,and i did drive it constantly those 4 days
MG4 SE basic owner here (likewise from VW Tig): 13000miles / 13 months in - no issues major todate (mainly from home on EDF at 4.5p Kwh), but the older non-tesla's supercharging hubs open to all (not tried V4 todate) - seem to work fine. Luckily my LKA defaults to OFF - but agree that it is ridiculous - it loves to steer me into coming traffic - so haven't used it for a year
You have to support the weight of the cable as it's trying to connect - I have the same issues with my identical car. Once it connects you can step away but the heavier cables are too heavy for the connector in the car!
Hold the CCS plug into the car charge port until the charge starts ... sometimes the issue is that the control pins (in the Type 2 part of the connector) don't make a proper connection, and holding the connector up helps to avoid that. And Gretna Green has 2x Gridserve, 4x Ionity and 16x (I think) Applegreen connections
@@Lewis_Standing last time I was there they were full, but I drove once around the loop and came back to find someone just leaving an Applegreen point - and it was on the correct side for my car too 🙂 (MG4 has the charge port rear-left, like a Tesla).
This is what I've found when using Tesla chargers with my MG4 Trophy and sometimes other brands of chargers. If you do you prepayment thing and plug in the car as normal, look on the screen in the car under that battery section and you'll see an option that says "start charging." The Tesla charger was waiting for this command to be sent but because the guy has not pressed the start charging in the car, it's just canceled the charge. It does not happen every time but that is what his issue was.
As I've said before. I have had the same problem since 1st April at the Tesla chargers at Banbury. Tesla helpline says they no longer accept MG5EV due to it's software. MG EV blog says there is a free software update from MG. All the MG agents near me say there isn't. It's annoying because Banbury is well stocked for chargers asvyou have documented but Tesla is 30p per kwh cheaper.
@paulbuckingham15 well your a better man than me Paul. I can't even get them to admit there is one out there. I charged with no problems ever from the time Tesla opened them up to mere mortals until April. No worries, there's an Osprey 15 metres away at twice the price.
Sorry Dave, all I got from this was that using an App to charge an MG4 on a Tesla point doesn't work. Could you clarify how I can use a Tesla charger for my sons MG4.
You have to activate the charger on the app before plugging it into the car. You need to give the app a few seconds to switch the charger on remotely. If you plug in and try to activate it, it will already assume you want tap and pay and the stall should appear as in use on the app. It's a little confusing at first as it's backwards to pretty much every other charger.
@@solentbum yes, you need to add a form of payment in the app before using it but it's normally reliable. Most of my experience with it comes from Norway and Sweden when I've had hire cars for work, it makes payment and charging overseas really easy. Lots more open chargers overseas.
I have had my MG4 Trophy for two weeks now ( no long journeys yet - longest journey so far 60 mile round trip), as slightly newer model than Richard’s it has the rear screen wiper ( and I guess slight updated software), good value car ( especially with 0% finance deal from MG), it has a lot of kit for the price, in a week off for a circa 250 mile round trip so will see how easy to charge on route!
Didn't end up completely clear, but it looked like the App didn't work, but it did charge immediately when he tapped his card on the contactless reader?
@@AdrianNelson1507 Best guess would be that if the card number / holder had a subscription it would be charged at the cheaper rate, but that's only a guess. My Supercharging today was 38p / kWh
@@AdrianNelson1507 Nope: you'd pay the contactless rate, because the system has no way or knowing that you have a subscription - maybe one day non-tesla owners will work seamlessly just like proper tesla cars do in-that just just plug in, and it knows where the payment is directed to? - but I cant see tesla allowing this as they have nothing to gain.
@@EverydayLife621 fastned have it and I think some others "can" but "don't" (yet). Seems like a good idea tbh, the plug in and go dream of the Supercharger network 😊
It wouldn’t be the infotainment version. Is the CCU that needs upgrading. I took mine in for the latest upgrades the other day and they upgraded pretty much every known module on the car and that is making a massive difference in performance terms, fixing many compatibility issues and software niggles etc. Some dealers (like mine) just simply know that it’s best for the car to be the most up to date overall. Unfortunately MG requires this do be done as a warranty repair so there must be some complaint linked to it. My dealer did a good job.
@@fenegroni good point I also has a second update that changed some of the safety features but was now shown in the infotainment. Do you know if there is a way to check the other CCU versions?
I have the MG4 it’s a good car but MG customer service is so bad. The LKA is horrible and for an update which is suppose to improve it as Richard said the dealer wants to change me as there is no fault
I've got the Trophy and LKA on mine seems ok, I don't know if it's anything to do with the software version but it doesn't kick in on mine until about 38MPH and drops out around 32MPH so when you are navigating around slower traffic etc it's just disabled.
Don't help out non Tesla drivers. MG does care how they get a charge. Only Tesla cares and part of the price we pay is in the price of the car. Tell them to go and use Ionity. Leave the Tesla chargers for Teslas. You will regret it when all the Tesla Chargers are full of other cars and you have to pay 85p pkwh, with your Tesla.
So a couple with kids charged their Tesla at an instavolt because it's at McDonalds, but there was a Tesla hub over the road (not open to other makes) So should we tell them to move on! Seriously it's bad enough seeing all the anti EV nonsense in the media without fellow EV drivers getting precious, Elon started Tesla to prove EV's work, he always intended to open network to all.
Just don't use tesla chargers, why support tesla. Then they only made some brand using it.. the problem is the charger not then, the car can charge on others charger. Forget tesla.
Yet the governments around the world are working together to force Tesla to open up almost all its superchargers to non Tesla drivers. You seem to be out of step with the majority, thanks for your comments
It's a good job it wasn't raining as it so often does here in the UK, that's why I think all chargers need to be either undercover with solar panels on the roofs of the shelters or underground parking.
Fully agree it looks like it is starting slowly
After taking delivery of my VW ID.3 in May 22 I also tried out public chargers to gain familiarity. This included Tesla (available for non Tesla the week I took delivery of my VW), Ionity, Podpoint and Shell recharge. A month later I jumped in the deep end with my first long drive to Zurich and then onto Pisa!
Hey, that's deep
ICE owners would never believe me but honestly a lot of the time my Model Y is charging too quick! By the time you've walked into the services, used the toilet, got a coffee and walked back to the car, its nagging me to get a move on! I genuinely enjoy the excuse to stop for a break.
That's where I appreciate my Kia E Niro, 40 mins is about right for me and then the car is ready as well!
I completely agree ! (MY LR with ab)
Swap you? mine is a bit old and a bit slower
i rented the mg4 for 4 days,absolutly briliant car,the best i ever driven,and the best part is they put the charging port on the tesla side,so i could use the tesla chargers who were pretty much the only option i had,and i did drive it constantly those 4 days
MG4 SE basic owner here (likewise from VW Tig): 13000miles / 13 months in - no issues major todate (mainly from home on EDF at 4.5p Kwh), but the older non-tesla's supercharging hubs open to all (not tried V4 todate) - seem to work fine. Luckily my LKA defaults to OFF - but agree that it is ridiculous - it loves to steer me into coming traffic - so haven't used it for a year
How does LKA default off? Fluke or secret sauce?
Fluke of being on an older software version I think.
They have improved the front camera software and LKA is vastly improved
You have to support the weight of the cable as it's trying to connect - I have the same issues with my identical car. Once it connects you can step away but the heavier cables are too heavy for the connector in the car!
Super interview. Love this.
Thanks I enjoyed doing it, my first with a real keen viewer
Hold the CCS plug into the car charge port until the charge starts ... sometimes the issue is that the control pins (in the Type 2 part of the connector) don't make a proper connection, and holding the connector up helps to avoid that.
And Gretna Green has 2x Gridserve, 4x Ionity and 16x (I think) Applegreen connections
or on J44 at Carlisle - 10 Ionity (CA3 0HA).
All full when I visited there, and the Ionity chargers being round the corner and a pain to navigate to doesn't help
@@Lewis_Standing last time I was there they were full, but I drove once around the loop and came back to find someone just leaving an Applegreen point - and it was on the correct side for my car too 🙂 (MG4 has the charge port rear-left, like a Tesla).
Cheers Dave
Love the spoiler somewhere to park a mobile phone while setting up charge .
Yes, a neat design feature?
This is what I've found when using Tesla chargers with my MG4 Trophy and sometimes other brands of chargers. If you do you prepayment thing and plug in the car as normal, look on the screen in the car under that battery section and you'll see an option that says "start charging." The Tesla charger was waiting for this command to be sent but because the guy has not pressed the start charging in the car, it's just canceled the charge. It does not happen every time but that is what his issue was.
Thanks for your comments, I'll pass it on
I used the same charger a couple of weeks ago in my ZS LR and had no issues paying through the Tesla app on android.
Hit and miss with no clear pattern, really helps
Thank you for doing this.
That's fine, you're welcome
As I've said before. I have had the same problem since 1st April at the Tesla chargers at Banbury. Tesla helpline says they no longer accept MG5EV due to it's software. MG EV blog says there is a free software update from MG. All the MG agents near me say there isn't. It's annoying because Banbury is well stocked for chargers asvyou have documented but Tesla is 30p per kwh cheaper.
MG actually want to charge you for it (about £120) as they class it as a comfort upgrade. Which is nonsense.
@@paulbuckingham15 That's only 400 kWh to break even, but of course it should be free.
@paulbuckingham15 well your a better man than me Paul. I can't even get them to admit there is one out there. I charged with no problems ever from the time Tesla opened them up to mere mortals until April.
No worries, there's an Osprey 15 metres away at twice the price.
I have a MG4 and have no issues at Tesla Banbury (the one on the retail park)
We like Richard..a good egg.
Sorry Dave, all I got from this was that using an App to charge an MG4 on a Tesla point doesn't work. Could you clarify how I can use a Tesla charger for my sons MG4.
You have to activate the charger on the app before plugging it into the car. You need to give the app a few seconds to switch the charger on remotely. If you plug in and try to activate it, it will already assume you want tap and pay and the stall should appear as in use on the app. It's a little confusing at first as it's backwards to pretty much every other charger.
@@Joeb4iley thanks, I presume that is the Tesla app..
@@solentbum yes, you need to add a form of payment in the app before using it but it's normally reliable. Most of my experience with it comes from Norway and Sweden when I've had hire cars for work, it makes payment and charging overseas really easy. Lots more open chargers overseas.
I think others beat me to it, hope your answer is in here
I have had my MG4 Trophy for two weeks now ( no long journeys yet - longest journey so far 60 mile round trip), as slightly newer model than Richard’s it has the rear screen wiper ( and I guess slight updated software), good value car ( especially with 0% finance deal from MG), it has a lot of kit for the price, in a week off for a circa 250 mile round trip so will see how easy to charge on route!
Good luck you get used to it quite quickly
We need to introduce a new term "practical range", which is 80% to 30%!
Could you do more interviews with drives please
Didn't end up completely clear, but it looked like the App didn't work, but it did charge immediately when he tapped his card on the contactless reader?
Yes it did seem that way. Follow up question, if he has a subscription but ends up tapping his card does it still avail of the cheaper rates?
@@AdrianNelson1507 Best guess would be that if the card number / holder had a subscription it would be charged at the cheaper rate, but that's only a guess. My Supercharging today was 38p / kWh
@@AdrianNelson1507 Nope: you'd pay the contactless rate, because the system has no way or knowing that you have a subscription - maybe one day non-tesla owners will work seamlessly just like proper tesla cars do in-that just just plug in, and it knows where the payment is directed to? - but I cant see tesla allowing this as they have nothing to gain.
I tried app, card and contact from my phone and couldn’t get a charge on these chargers with my MG5 (v12 software)
@@EverydayLife621 fastned have it and I think some others "can" but "don't" (yet). Seems like a good idea tbh, the plug in and go dream of the Supercharger network 😊
It would be great to know what software version Richard was using. Was it R46? Also Has he had the same experience on Tesla superchargers before?
It wouldn’t be the infotainment version. Is the CCU that needs upgrading.
I took mine in for the latest upgrades the other day and they upgraded pretty much every known module on the car and that is making a massive difference in performance terms, fixing many compatibility issues and software niggles etc. Some dealers (like mine) just simply know that it’s best for the car to be the most up to date overall. Unfortunately MG requires this do be done as a warranty repair so there must be some complaint linked to it. My dealer did a good job.
@@fenegroni good point I also has a second update that changed some of the safety features but was now shown in the infotainment. Do you know if there is a way to check the other CCU versions?
I don’t plug in until I’ve clicked it on the app. Polestar 2.
I couldn’t get my MG5 to charge on these chargers.
Me neither.
Any joy since this post?
I have the MG4 it’s a good car but MG customer service is so bad. The LKA is horrible and for an update which is suppose to improve it as Richard said the dealer wants to change me as there is no fault
I've got the Trophy and LKA on mine seems ok, I don't know if it's anything to do with the software version but it doesn't kick in on mine until about 38MPH and drops out around 32MPH so when you are navigating around slower traffic etc it's just disabled.
You need to teach the macmaster he can never get his to work
He know where I am
Because its all fake
@@neilmick6778 I watched the modern heroes guy struggling as well
It is Chinese and thanks to Tesla on the chargers
Buy the time you got that to start charging the ice car would be at his destination
but would have missed out on a good chat
Don't help out non Tesla drivers. MG does care how they get a charge. Only Tesla cares and part of the price we pay is in the price of the car. Tell them to go and use Ionity. Leave the Tesla chargers for Teslas. You will regret it when all the Tesla Chargers are full of other cars and you have to pay 85p pkwh, with your Tesla.
Sorry Keith that runs totally opposite to my beliefs as a Tesla owner. Thanks for your comments
So a couple with kids charged their Tesla at an instavolt because it's at McDonalds, but there was a Tesla hub over the road (not open to other makes) So should we tell them to move on!
Seriously it's bad enough seeing all the anti EV nonsense in the media without fellow EV drivers getting precious, Elon started Tesla to prove EV's work, he always intended to open network to all.
If Tesla superchargers were in convenient locations I would agree that you would see queues but they are normally out in the woods.
With a shirt like that, what do you expect?
Views and subscribers by the thousand
Just don't use tesla chargers, why support tesla. Then they only made some brand using it.. the problem is the charger not then, the car can charge on others charger. Forget tesla.
Yet the governments around the world are working together to force Tesla to open up almost all its superchargers to non Tesla drivers. You seem to be out of step with the majority, thanks for your comments