Should You Get Citlali OR Mauvuika?

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    • @vivanmaurya
      @vivanmaurya 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      what artefact set do you recommend for mavuika, some ppl are telling codex, some are telling codex wont work try MH and some are telling me just use scroll with crits and i am very confused rn please help me out

    • @phatiesha5949
      @phatiesha5949 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@vivanmauryaboth scroll and codex will work because shes natlan on field AND off field
      mh wont work over codex since its less crit rate

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  • @Shane_A_M
    @Shane_A_M 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +619

    For Citlali being more popular in viewership right now: a LOT of people pulled for Arlecchino, and pulling for a replacement is just a lot less appealing than pulling for a team upgrade, especially an upgrade with a shield, and especially one that will never get a rerun on account of being Cryo. People just can’t risk the skip.

    • @oyasimakram6080
      @oyasimakram6080 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +47

      Cryo curse is real

    • @066kshitizvsingh4
      @066kshitizvsingh4 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +30

      Yup, my brother has Arle and is focusing on getting her constellations instead of going for Mauvika, despite being interested(she is getting rerun in the SAME Patch, pretty stupid decision on Hoyos part imo)

    • @lacountess
      @lacountess 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +44

      This.
      Mavuika= archon=rerun
      Citlali=Cryo=vault

    • @lacountess
      @lacountess 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +22

      @@oyasimakram6080 no joke. Started playing last Jan. Citlali is the first Cryo on a banner I’m seeing. It’s like ‘Come here you Cryo unicorn!’ for me.

    • @oyasimakram6080
      @oyasimakram6080 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@lacountess playing since 4.6 ( may2024 ) , I also never saw any 5* in limited time banners

  • @StanTheWoz
    @StanTheWoz 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +326

    Another on field pyro DPS (and DPS powercreep) was literally the last thing a lot of people wanted. Yeah you can use her in some other roles, but it feels kinda dumb knowing how strong she is as a DPS. Hoyo kinda painted themselves into a corner with this one for not giving us Bennett or Xiangling replacements for so long, as well as releasing way too many pyro DPSs.

    • @AJ-jg7xf
      @AJ-jg7xf 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      stfu im a new player, i need a new pyro dps that using motorcycle. just play wuwa or something man

    • @MarineRX179
      @MarineRX179 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +42

      Literally 80% (or more) Pyro characters are on-field DPS
      Make it stooooooooooooop!! Give us a powercreeped Xiangling or Pyro Yelan/Yae/Furina!!

    • @TaseJaw
      @TaseJaw 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +14

      This powercreep issue should be taken more seriously, this isn't hsr, the lazy game design must be stopped

    • @Glassesgorilla
      @Glassesgorilla 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      I thought she can do both off field and on field?

    • @roa.reyescortes298
      @roa.reyescortes298 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

      She can, this people are yapping about everything ​@@Glassesgorilla

  • @jamiel7388
    @jamiel7388 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +503

    When i die, i would like Mavuika to lower my casket. So i can be let down one last time…

    • @sorakirisaki5330
      @sorakirisaki5330 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +89

      you'll be let down either way. "so she can let me down one last time" is the correct meme. close enough but you got the spirit at least. now 99 more for her burst to activate

    • @totallyregulargiorno
      @totallyregulargiorno 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +12

      ​@@sorakirisaki5330You did burst damage to him, not normal attack damage

    • @Softdrinksofchoice9
      @Softdrinksofchoice9 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +20

      Lol. She is a side grade to Xiangling. She be letting us all down

    • @AlwaysThirstys
      @AlwaysThirstys 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +14

      @@Softdrinksofchoice9 Literally flat out better while buffing the team more.

    • @iliketodraw_23709
      @iliketodraw_23709 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +16

      ​@Softdrinksofchoice9 She does a bit more damage than Xiangling and doesn't need her burst to apply pyro. And her being able to use Cinder city will make her a lot better. It only depends if you want more pyro application or more dmg and buffs. It just sucks that she won't be able to burst every rotation without a natlan character 😢.

  • @bradyseigfried2395
    @bradyseigfried2395 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +300

    People wanted an off-field Xiangling replacement/sidegrade and the made Mauvuika another onfielder with a 'slightly silly' attacking method.
    If she was more like Nahida and Raiden I think people would be more excited, even despite the controversial motorcycle.

    • @wansper9297
      @wansper9297 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +18

      Thats the thing... she is though her offield is a damage upgrade frok XL in most teams, just not by a whole lot and onfielding her is better. But if you just keep her offield and use burst it is generally better then XL for most teams dont need that much pyro application and her burst hit makes up for any lost damage from the main dps from lost application. Its just its not better then XL by as big of a gap aa people wanted

    • @luminous3558
      @luminous3558 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +15

      What do you mean by more like Raiden and Nahida? Do very little damage at c0 like raiden or be locked to 2 teams like Nahida?
      People are just throwing a fit over nothing.
      Mavuika is still an absurd offfield character that dumpsters xiangling in every team, its just that she is also a better carry than the previous carry in those teams.

    • @Colossalj77
      @Colossalj77 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +50

      @@luminous3558 more damage with half of the application is not better than xl, the damage does not matter being able to rev vape rev melt etc matters far more, keep coping

    • @dergrive88
      @dergrive88 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +8

      I still to this day don't understand what is wrong with that motorcycle...

    • @nobody-bt7mu
      @nobody-bt7mu 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +28

      @@dergrive88 What's wrong with that motorcycle.... IS THAT IT'S A FREAKING MOTORCYCLE. Yes there are other vehicles like the ones you see in Fontaine but Mavuika's bike is the only we've seen so far. Maybe Shnezhnaya has the answers, maybe it's from Khaenri'ah, we still don't know but it just looks out of place. Honestly, I would love an armored horse though.

  • @AdzPower
    @AdzPower 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +111

    I think its down to pyro fatigue. There are so many meta pyro characters right now and people are tired of it, whereas cryo has been ignored for ages so the idea of a new cryo 5 star coming out is exciting. Plus some people aren't vibing with Mauvuika's design (the bike). Also we know the Arlecchino re-run is happening soon and so many people love her and would rather pull for her instead.

    • @syarifairlangga4608
      @syarifairlangga4608 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

      Too many On Field Pyro character.
      Also they doesnt have decent reaction with other element

    • @_hector__
      @_hector__ 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      So many meta pyro? You sure?

    • @damienwallace6334
      @damienwallace6334 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@_hector__Maybe not entirely Meta, but for example having Arle, Yomiya, or Gaming will increase your chance of probably not pulling for Muav if you are comfortable/strong with them, it’d be better for a pyro support.

    • @AdzPower
      @AdzPower 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@_hector__ Maybe I should have said pyro on so many teams like Bennett and Xiangling.

    • @aviezer_who_drinks_seltzer371
      @aviezer_who_drinks_seltzer371 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      The thing is I have enough DPS more than enough I need more good supports
      The only reason I would consider more dps is theater but I have yoimiya klee and Dehya so- eh

  • @superfate9424
    @superfate9424 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +105

    3 problems. Archon status means she needs to be top level in one of or multiple of 3 categories: Meta, distinction/replacibility, or offer something new. Zhongli is a good example where nobody will ever be able to replace the amount of shield he gives he is distinct. Nahida is similarly distinct and offered something completely new (technically dendro offered something new but she was the only one to really offer off field dendro app at her level and still is thus she was new at release). Furina and Raiden though generic were also game breaking to the point they not only dominated the meta but completely shifted the meta. Shenhe and Mika are great examples of being so specific that nobody can replace what they do and they aren’t even Archons.
    Mav is strong but not enough to change the meta, only fit into it (ex. Of changing meta is Zhongli making people like Hu Tao and Ganyu basically incredibly effortless to play and clear things quickly, Nahida making every dendro comp possible, Raiden enabling dmg for high energy multi element consistent and fast rotations, Kaz consolidating CC and dmg amp for all nuke comps for like 3 years). She is unique by design but people get her design when they pull her, the pulling only offers you access to in game design aka her attack, walking, idle, and technically voice lines which are usually available on TH-cam - basically to say people who dislike her which is many obviously dislike the fact her bike dominates her gameplay, they wanted to pull for her animations not her bike’s animations… And thirdly of course, she offers NO new roles or possible playstyles, like even Emilie offers new teams and Mav just doesn’t…
    Mav isn’t bad and people who want her should pull for her but she is certainly mismatched with the expectations of an Archon and value for an account which is why she isn’t as beloved nor hyped like other Archons have been (Raiden in particular since that’s who is most comparable). Why pull Mav for any other reason besides waifu or design or lacking a built pyro dps?

    • @ronell450
      @ronell450 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

      Guess venti don't exist no more😢

    • @baanfrey
      @baanfrey 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +17

      @@ronell450 Venti is still the king of crowd control and it’s no contest. So he still checks off the Archon requirements.
      The only issue is that he was indirectly nerfed just like Ayaka where it’s only situationally usable with lightweight trash mobs and when it is usable it’s OP, but outside of those situations his burst literally doesn’t work.

    • @andrinaleong4079
      @andrinaleong4079 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@ronell450 Venti still offers the strongest crowd control. It is just that the current environment is doing him dirty.

    • @rayas09
      @rayas09 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      This comment should be upvoted and pinned. Great analysis! 👌🏻

    • @luminous3558
      @luminous3558 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      This is literally just you justifying your and the communities gut reaction dislike of her.
      None of this shit is remotely relevant, she isnt bennett 2 and you can't handle it.
      Raiden was always mid before c2 she just has insane fans that parade her everywhere. Zhongli isnt exactly good at much and xilonen took his last bit of relevance.
      Nahida gets to support old outdated teams very well but hoyo doesnt want to give her new teams.
      Furina is the only good archon at this moment and mavuika will be 2nd place.

  • @SlinkyWormy
    @SlinkyWormy 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +115

    Im honestly convinced that its because of MiHoyo's handling of Cryo characters, its probable that more people are looking to see if a Cryo Limited is worth pulling NOW instead of whenever Hoyo decides to release the Cryo element from the dungeon for their rerun, Mavuika will ALWAYS rerun purely because of her "archon" status. I know its a meme but lol

    • @dawoodsamad7344
      @dawoodsamad7344 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +14

      That too as well as this is the 69th quintillion pyro DPS. Enough is enough.

    • @MugWitch
      @MugWitch 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@dawoodsamad7344Agreed. We really didn’t need a DPS archon here 🫠

    • @Shirospyre
      @Shirospyre 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      Hoyo hoarding the Cryo element for Snezhnaya.

    • @Runegrem
      @Runegrem 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@Shirospyre Hoarding how exactly? Cryo is tied with Pyro for the element with the most characters. It's also the only element with at least one 4-star and 5-star for each weapon type.

    • @Shirospyre
      @Shirospyre 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@Runegrem Dude it was a joke. It wasn't meant to be taken seriously. It was meant to be taken as a cope response, kind of like saying "hope hoyo remembers cryo exists when we reach Snezhnaya, the cryo nation. *Surely* we'll get more cryo characters and reruns then, right? Right?"

  • @therealbatman2699
    @therealbatman2699 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +239

    As an Arlecchino main, I've never played melt, im really excited to try it with Citlali

    • @Kreideprinz33
      @Kreideprinz33 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

      us

    • @kakioualy3256
      @kakioualy3256 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +6

      she doesn't apply enough cry though so it will be hard to use her especially with unfreezable content

    • @ZyklonFX
      @ZyklonFX 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +25

      rosaria and citlali will be fun

    • @therealbatman2699
      @therealbatman2699 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +8

      @@ZyklonFX im just looking at my roster and realised the game doesn't have decent off field cryo applicator for Melt stuff

    • @superfate9424
      @superfate9424 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      You’ll most likely need Shenhe on top of it but between both you would most certainly be able to do it. In fact I plan to use Bennett, Cit, Shenhe, and Arle. Arle skill, Bennett burst, Cit/Shenhe burst and skills, Arle burst. And if they aren’t dead Arle Na’s for a few seconds should do the trick. I imagine though if Cit can single-handedly fill Mav’s meter she’ll be a stronger option but with Arle’s numbers it should be a marginal difference at C0 if not practically the same

  • @lacountess
    @lacountess 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +20

    Dude Mavuika is an archon. Her banner will eventually run again. Citlali is a Cryo character. She’ll go in the vault with Wriothesley and Shenhe for the next five to ten years. I’m def pulling for Citlali.

  • @mauricioaguilera3194
    @mauricioaguilera3194 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +17

    I didn't cared For Citlali at first, but after getting to know her in the story, I fell in love with the granny

    • @Runegrem
      @Runegrem 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      I agree, her personality really shone through in the AQ and event. I don't really think that was the case for Mauvie though. She feels really flat as a character.
      But also, I thought Citlali had a really nice design from the start.

  • @RafaelGonzalez-vs2bu
    @RafaelGonzalez-vs2bu 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +14

    DPS’s are temporary, supports are
    Eternal.

  • @gaurika4732
    @gaurika4732 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +119

    My problems with Mauvika are:
    1. She's a dps. We have ENOUGH of pryo dps while we have only ONE off-field pryo. Its simple about supply-demand.
    2. There's nothing meta-defining about her. Furina is broken support, aside from her buff, she makes MH accessible for rest of the genshin cast. Nahida still is the best dendro support, Venti still has the best cc, etc. But what does Mauvika does? another pyro dps?
    I was hoping she could make the obsidian codex accessible for rest of the cast, but nope.
    3. Her character design itself is meh to me. Yes her outfit and bike is hot, but does it make any sense? no. does it look cohesive and fit natlan-teyvat world? No.
    (i could say the same about rest of natlan units too).

    • @luminous3558
      @luminous3558 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +10

      1. She is a better xiangling in terms of damage and she brings buffs, she just also outdpses every single carry that would use xiangling if you were to onfield her instead.
      2. Mavuika is literally a better C0 Furina and scales equally well with cons, C2 providing def shred which is notoriously scarce.
      3. So all the natlan units don't fit natlan or they just dont fit your vision of natlan?

    • @gaurika4732
      @gaurika4732 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +51

      @@luminous3558 1. I want off field pyro app, we have other ways to buff if we want.
      idc if she out-dps my dpses, i wanna play THEM.
      Yeah she's an op pyro dps but lets not act like we dont have plethora them already.
      2. In terms of support abilities furina> mavuika and support abilities is what i want. Not to mention furina unclocks a whole new way of playing and team building by making healers important again. what new thing does mavuika bring?
      3. Please. Look at the npc of natlan. The give of a tribal vibes, a motorbike, flying revolver, dj set and pixelated dragon does not fit that tribal vibes.

    • @binsarm9026
      @binsarm9026 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +30

      @@luminous3558 we don't care about "more damage than Xiangling" - we want off-field pyro application, like how Nahida and Raiden do it - or Furina for Hydro - heck, even OZ for Electro.

    • @kingdoom5022
      @kingdoom5022 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +7

      ​@@binsarm9026
      She literally have off field application , just with tap E you have pyro application and scroll buff , that's makes her better than xianling in many teams

    • @kauanjos3199
      @kauanjos3199 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +7

      ​@@gaurika4732 She is an off fielder, just Tap her skill, no energy required and also buffs you whole team with cinder city

  • @TheJH1015
    @TheJH1015 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +65

    also the reason people are more interested in Citlali is because
    1) Mavuika is ANOTHER onfielder focused DPS *first* with off field *second* while most people wanted it the other way around. Citlali just offers more potential uses for more characters that REALLY need buffs like Yoimiya.
    2) Design. Citlali's aesthetic design is just much more coherent with Natlan's inspirations and culture. Mavuika and her bike are a thorn in a LOT of people's eyes for good reasons.
    3) Why would you want to pull Mavuika, a limited 5 star, for off field use when we get Pyro Traveler for free who is already a Xiangling sidegrade to slight upgrade? That's like running Raiden as a Hyperbloom bot when you literally have Shinobu sitting on the bench in your character roster.

    • @lawrencehortizuela4978
      @lawrencehortizuela4978 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      Because Fire Traveler doesn't seem that good compared to Mavuika

    • @TheJH1015
      @TheJH1015 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +10

      @@lawrencehortizuela4978 They do roughly the same damage as Xiangling, aren't tied to other Natlan characters and give a damage bonus from their C1. Pyro Traveler is a sufficient and far cheaper option than Mavuika especially if you already have a 5 star Pyro DPS like Arle or Hu Tao.

    • @nat6lbg440
      @nat6lbg440 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +7

      @@lawrencehortizuela4978 He looks really good knowing that he doesn't cost 180 wishes and doesn't rely on Xilonen.

    • @OKCTHUNDERFUN
      @OKCTHUNDERFUN 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      AND 4 cryo characters NEVER re-run LOL

    • @xenoemblem7
      @xenoemblem7 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      DOn't care. I want the archon

  • @whydoistillusethissite8626
    @whydoistillusethissite8626 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +64

    I mean Mavuika is gonna be real strong, but she's yet another Pyro on-fielder (with some support capabilities, but lets be real most of the discussion about her right now is her as a main DPS) and literally every limited Pyro 5 star has been an on-fielder
    so yeah, that's probably why people are more interested in Citlali

    • @navalhabr
      @navalhabr 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +9

      "Everyone got Mavuika kit wrong"
      "I was wrong about Mavuika"
      "Mavuika is broken"
      "Xiangling could never"
      - By John Titor

    • @johnd7760
      @johnd7760 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

      ​@@navalhabr forgot shocked faces in thumbnails

    • @GenshinYuppe
      @GenshinYuppe 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

      @@navalhabr totally gonna happen. people pretend they don't care about the power of a character but that's mostly simps on denial that arle is about to be the silver medal. ask hutao for her shoes.

    • @SmithyPL
      @SmithyPL 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Citlali is told to be very weak like a 4* character according to beta testers

    • @meikkuikamuzu5869
      @meikkuikamuzu5869 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Most people have a well built hutao or arlechino so there isn’t much a point in pullinh

  • @WassaWaterline
    @WassaWaterline 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +75

    Pull priority: Citlali > Mavuika
    Because Citlali is Cryo and will never rerun again.
    Mavuika will come back before 6.0 and will rerun every year.

    • @chainsow47
      @chainsow47 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      Citlali is not cryo. She has no connection to that element. She is another support for the trash Neuvillette, so she will get her repeat quickly.

    • @digital_ai5235
      @digital_ai5235 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +13

      @@chainsow47 what are you on about lil bro do you even play genshin her drip marketing is literally advertised as cryo, as cryo is the power of ice cryo characters will freeze time and cease to rerun for the rest of their timeline

    • @amandaslough125
      @amandaslough125 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

      ​@@chainsow47she's literally an ice shielder. This information is out there. She's a cryo unit.

    • @IAMQUIX
      @IAMQUIX 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@chainsow47 Are you that salty over a fictional character?

    • @hiimapop7755
      @hiimapop7755 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@chainsow47 How out of touch can you get? We're not talking about leaks here. They're already drip marketed, bruh.

  • @kasuha
    @kasuha 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +28

    I'm going for both but I'm much more excited about Citlali. She looks like a character from Natlan, not like somebody from New York central park. At least for the most part. I don't even care about her talents, the only thing that would put me off would be if she was slotted into standard banner.

    • @abdullamamun8812
      @abdullamamun8812 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

      lmao, mavuika roasted here pretty bad 😆🤣😂

    • @Runegrem
      @Runegrem 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yeah, granny Itzli has the best design in Natlan so far. And unlike Mauvie she has a well defined personality.

  • @prafjs
    @prafjs 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +95

    Yess...I'm more excited about Citlali than the Pyro Archon. However, I will be pulling for both of them.

    • @IshyMimic
      @IshyMimic 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

      exact same, good luck on the 50/50s

    • @prafjs
      @prafjs 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @IshyMimic Thanks, you too!

    • @Will-pk4mf
      @Will-pk4mf 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Same here. Good luck.

    • @jex-the-notebook-guy1002
      @jex-the-notebook-guy1002 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​​@@IshyMimic risked my 50/50 for fischl and got diluc c3 so after mauvika i'll be on the 25/75

  • @13Nagash13
    @13Nagash13 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +51

    I am more hype for citlali for 2 reasons. 1)Archons get regular reruns, meanwhile look at wriothsley and shenhe, if i skip citlali who knows if ill get another chance before celestia to pull again. 2) i HATE motorcycle impact.

    • @dergrive88
      @dergrive88 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

      To be honest I don't mind people hating on the bike but I think this is more of a virus that infected everyone because her kit isn't something people expected

    • @KahlevN
      @KahlevN 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +11

      @@dergrive88 Nah man, tons of people have hated the Earth-coded immersion breaking Natlan stuff since we first saw it. We don't need all these real world Earth references in Teyvat, this isn't Fortnite.

    • @dergrive88
      @dergrive88 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

      @KahlevN you know that that is a dumb explanation right ? This Earth-coded stuff is ALL over genshin not only Natlan. Also every game and every story ever has relation to Earth... you can't make something out of nothing most of the time you always relate it to reality. So it's not immersion breaking at all because if you think like that then all of the Genshin Nations are immersion breaking. Everyone just hates her bike because her kit is not what people wanted and shifted their hate to the bike subconsciously.
      You might deny that but it's true.

    • @bencegergohocz5988
      @bencegergohocz5988 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

      ​@@dergrive88 noone has an issue when Fischl uses german terms in a world where noone speaks other langueages or when literal light novels exists in inazuma but they draw the tine at bikes q-_-p

    • @13Nagash13
      @13Nagash13 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +16

      @@dergrive88 the earth coding in other regions is well developed for that region. Sumeru, as soon as we enter the city we learn about akasha terminals and see all npcs using them. In fontaine we steampunk and clockwork devices everywhere. But we get to natlan, the npc are all on foot or riding hot air balloons doing graffiti, but chaska somehow has an 8 foot tall revolver gun that she stands on to fly? There is not one single paved road in natlan, but the archon rides a modern street bike? We never saw chaska or mavuika use their "ancient dragon tech" in any cut scenes.
      I dont care if she is on field dps carry, or off field dps support. I don't want to drive around on a motorcycle to run over hilichurls and treasure hoarders. If I wanted that kind of gameplay, I'd load up grand theft auto. Oh and her bike can drive on water, up walls, and sprouts jetpack vents to fly. Almost all the natlan traversal mechanics have been absolutely trash if you play on mobile. So yeah, I hate motorcycle impact. There is still time to improve, but so far,, natlan has been hands down the worst gameplay/character mechanics nation so far.

  • @yurimiracle7768
    @yurimiracle7768 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +64

    I will get Citlali AND Mavuika!

  • @Lily-ed9ss
    @Lily-ed9ss 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +51

    With Mavuika, Its just that the whole bike thing is so off putting for me in terms of genshin. Don't get me wrong i am sure she is a great character but I cannot fight with a flying bike 😭. Plus citlali can buff my yoimiya and arlecchino so feels like a better investment (and she cute).

    • @grant6864
      @grant6864 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

      if you’re using her as a sub-dps (which i’m assuming you are since nobody asked for the 50th pyro main dps) then you don’t see the bike during the skill and only for a split second during her burst

    • @KahlevN
      @KahlevN 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +6

      I mean, Citlali fights with a flying Pillow, is that any less goofy when you really think about it? Nothing about her character story leading up to this point led us to believe her fighting style would be so silly and cute. It's like the people who designed her and the people who wrote her were in separate buildings and never talked.
      That said, I still love her and she'll be the first Natlan character I care enough to pull for.

    • @Lily-ed9ss
      @Lily-ed9ss 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@KahlevN The main difference is mavuika is a dps which means she has alot more field time then citlali (according to the leaks) and tbh most of the natlan character seems quite out of place to me due to their different 'gadgets'. If you show someone with a mind set of 1.0 genshin the kit of mavuika or chasca they will explode lol.

    • @Moontonboss
      @Moontonboss 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      ​​@@Lily-ed9ssshe can be off field, it's not like she to use burst

    • @FacingVicissitudes
      @FacingVicissitudes 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@Lily-ed9ss You can argue this about the bond of life for Fontaine. I joined just when 4.1 dropped, saw the new mechanics and thought "but why" but everyone ate it up. I buy Natlan's gadgets more given that the place they have in world explains it more than Bond of Life is. They're created by the shade of life but why do they have a bond of life? What in their location says that mechanic is natural? As opposed to Natlan where they built their nation on top of a hyper technology civilization and built their tech *based* on it.

  • @71775926
    @71775926 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +46

    Hoyo really jumped the shark with this one. Archons have always been great supports with outstanding off-field capabilities and the potential to be great on-fielders too, often with constellations. That Pyro especially needed someone like that and Hoyo chose to do otherwise with the PYRO ARCHON of all people, I'm not surprised there's been this rejection.

    • @lucifermorningstar8387
      @lucifermorningstar8387 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +6

      But like Pyro’s identity is all about damage. As an archon, she needed to embody this identity. We‘ll probably have another character to replace Bennett or Xiangling in the future (or I hope)

    • @AVPVN
      @AVPVN 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah like geo is def, electro is energy (er), dentro is em and each archon is the best at what they was made for, pyro is all about dmg so make sense that the pyro archon is gonna be a dps and an amazing one​@@lucifermorningstar8387

    • @di8085
      @di8085 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +7

      Once again internet opinion is doesn't mean anything in Genshin, people say like this since Kazuha Sucrose, Yelan Xingqiu, even Hutao Arlecchino, so Mavuika will doing fine when her kits basically just like Raiden

    • @ATMEIDAREYAIDOUBLEDAREYA
      @ATMEIDAREYAIDOUBLEDAREYA 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@di8085Bro nobody is saying that Mavuika will be weak, those examples you listed were of the Genshij community thinking certain characters were too weak/would be power-crept and tosses into oblivion like Xingqiu/Yelan, Sucrose/Kazuha and Hu tao/Arlecchino.
      NOBODY is saying that about Mavuika, ofc she’ll do fine in the meta she’s a broken DPS everyone knows that, the problem people have with her is that she’s that, a DPS, not the Bennett/Xiangling replacement we all wanted and honestly really need atp.

    • @skyden4637
      @skyden4637 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +9

      @ATMEIDAREYAIDOUBLEDAREYA
      Let me explain it this way:
      The best way to play Mavuika for Mavuika is an on field dps
      But that doesn’t mean she doesn’t work the other way, she still has off field application, buffing, and decent damage all off field. You may not be underestimating her damage but you ARE underestimating her supporting abilities simply because HER damage is higher when on field

  • @shikamaru317
    @shikamaru317 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +32

    I'm getting Mavuika first for sure, then Citlali. Only started playing Genshin like 4 months ago so I have no good Pyro main DPS currently, so Mavuika will be a great addition to my roster. Then I will be getting Citlali afterward as I already got Chasca and Citlali seems like a good teammate for her, giving her cryo bullets, a shield for interruption resistance while flying, and res shred for hydro and pyro to boost the damage of Chasca's converted pyro and hydro bullets.

    • @hectorlackless
      @hectorlackless 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yeah muavika seems to be the best for people with newer accoukts that have no pyro dps, good luck getting both

    • @Dani1969
      @Dani1969 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Wait for Arlecchino, easier to play and doesn't rely on other Natlan characters (worst region ever)

  • @loki_shu
    @loki_shu 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +34

    I remember reading a comment about Mavuika somewhere.
    I'm paraphrasing it,
    "she's a great support by doing higher damage, so you don't have to swap to your main DPS" 😂

  • @sarojandongol1482
    @sarojandongol1482 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +22

    As an avid archon collector it just feels bad that I want Citlali more than Mavuika. Like it shouldn't have been something that we'd ever have to think hard about. But no, time to build a 6th onfield pyro dps on my acc. 💀💀

    • @takewithfood
      @takewithfood 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

      Yeah, I can't believe I'm skipping an archon. Never thought I'd see the day.

    • @abdullamamun8812
      @abdullamamun8812 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@takewithfood same, I am an archon collector as well but I know she has drawbacks. I am gonna crown her skill and burst but not for dps tho. To gain only the buff from her burst and pyro application from her skill, my main dps will shine. Nah, she will be sustainer for me. Don't care if I lose her full potential cuz I have more pyro dps yelling at my account. 😆🤣

    • @takewithfood
      @takewithfood 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      ​@@abdullamamun8812Yeah, if I get her it's for her off-field too. She just seems too boring as an on-fielder. I expect more from an archon than "EQ hold LMB" in 2025.

  • @wy100101
    @wy100101 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +12

    Citlali is super appealing as a character and is less likely to re-run as soon as Mavuika. I think that makes her a more popular pull this time around. Ask all the people who wish they pulled for wriothesley.

    • @JoseRomero-jc2zn
      @JoseRomero-jc2zn 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      I pulled for Wriothesley and wish I hadn't.

  • @Karmaaa5
    @Karmaaa5 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +10

    Maybe because a motorcycle riding character in genshin isnt exactly too appealing

    • @Astreon123
      @Astreon123 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      To you

  • @The_Black_Swordmen.
    @The_Black_Swordmen. 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +89

    Who want their 100th pyro dps
    When you can get GILF

    • @lachucholayil
      @lachucholayil 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +33

      If only she actually looked like a GILF.... you're only getting your 100th pre-teen looking girl who is conveniently of age.

    • @zukodude487987
      @zukodude487987 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +13

      ​@@lachucholayilShe just pixels bruh.

    • @cnxlee_69420
      @cnxlee_69420 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

      Well,the banner sales will answer that question. We've gotta wait until then. 😂

    • @diego6991
      @diego6991 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Nah I prefer milf

    • @PCVP4729
      @PCVP4729 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@lachucholayil You are a Gacha game player.

  • @LeoLikesLamb
    @LeoLikesLamb 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +33

    Im gonna get citlali for her design and personality and if previous cryo characters lack of reruns is any indication, then i gotta get her now while i have the chance. Besides the archons usually rerun in around 4 patches sine hoyo knows they will sell well

  • @MrFrexys
    @MrFrexys 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +22

    That goofy bike really isn't doing Mavuika any favors

  • @robotprincess1711
    @robotprincess1711 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +30

    citlali's design is so up my alley so i wanna get her. no i don't think i have any teams for her. whatever

  • @alpha4935
    @alpha4935 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +6

    My biggest regret right now is skipping Wriothesley for Furina. I'm not repeating that mistake this time.

    • @takewithfood
      @takewithfood 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      Me too. I hope that my grandchildren will not make the same mistake when he finally reruns.

  • @tempoaccla4041
    @tempoaccla4041 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +15

    she should have been a replacement for both xiangling and bennett, a strong off field dps that buffs the current character without circle impact so we can finally banish bennet ton the shadow realm

  • @Silver_Phyrexian_Praetor
    @Silver_Phyrexian_Praetor 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +8

    As a Gaming main, I'm super hyped for Citlali. I'm just not sure whether I want to replace Jean (provides a bunch of fanfare stacks), or Bennet (provides buffs).

    • @takewithfood
      @takewithfood 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      I'd replace Jean, as much as I adore her. If you don't mind crippling her shield, you can run prototype amber (and a healing circle even) on Citlali for fanfare stacks; that's what I'm doing for Neuvilette. Her shield isn't that amazing anyway, and PA really helps guarantee bursts on cooldown.

  • @babyplaneswalker341
    @babyplaneswalker341 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +20

    They could have given her the furina treatment. Focus on one thing. Furina is a support and that's what people wanted from mavuika. But with higher constellations, that role shift. C6 main dps furina is a monster. Not to mention, we have already got TWO main dps that really want a great natlan pyro support. One deals with vape and the other burgeon. It only made sense for her to be more in the support role like all other archons

    • @bencegergohocz5988
      @bencegergohocz5988 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

      She works for all Natlan character perfectly well as an offielder.

  • @-L1K-
    @-L1K- 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +6

    I am going for both mommy and granny. I don’t even care if Citlali is trash. I absolutely adore her as a character and I want her in my roster.

  • @saura_7
    @saura_7 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +11

    The issue with Mavuika is that she requires two Natlan characters to achieve her full damage potential

    • @SmithyPL
      @SmithyPL 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      She absolutely requires only Xilonen, stop spreading misinformation. 2nd Natlan character required is Mavuika herself.
      Citlali is on the level of 4* characters according to beta testers.

    • @luminous3558
      @luminous3558 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      She wants xilonen which you should already have or should get asap anyway.

    • @shelter3408
      @shelter3408 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@SmithyPLwhich beta tester?

    • @SmithyPL
      @SmithyPL 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @shelter3408 Our local Polish Genshin youtuber Has beta testers on current beta, they say Mavuika will destroy every dps and Citlali is underwhelming even after buffs, she's more like 4*

  • @AudreyYuri
    @AudreyYuri 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +9

    I am pulling Citlali, even though Mavuika would likely be better
    I think Citlali is by far the most interesting Natlan character

    • @Runegrem
      @Runegrem 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Definitely. I'm not even sure what Mauvie's personality is like other than "generic hero".

  • @joelazaro461
    @joelazaro461 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +48

    I'm more excited about Pyro traveler than either of them, because it's a free character I can use in my Raiden overload team and I'm saving for weapons at this point anyway.

    • @andrevinagreiro2870
      @andrevinagreiro2870 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

      I never understood why people even pull for weapons. You can clear everything with 4 star weapons and its much better to have diferent characters to play/try and have fun

    • @nobody-bt7mu
      @nobody-bt7mu 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +36

      @@andrevinagreiro2870 I also don't understand why you care so much about them wanting to pull for weapons. You talk about having fun but that's subjective. Maybe their way of having fun is investing on characters they like.

    • @amandaslough125
      @amandaslough125 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@andrevinagreiro2870 sometimes it's just for the drip.

    • @justsomemaninachickencostu9643
      @justsomemaninachickencostu9643 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@andrevinagreiro2870 Some people like to pull only certain characters/ skip a lot of characters that they don't like. If there is a character they really really like, they get their weapon too because they like that character/ want to use them a lot. I pulled for Arlecchino and her Scythe because it's good and looks cool as hell.

    • @eraba661
      @eraba661 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@andrevinagreiro2870 Arle and Raiden withought their sig weapon looks boring to me like bro aren't scythe's sick looking!? I have been waiting for scythe character for a long time. I love drip impact bro I want my wives to look as majestic as possible ofc if I got enough pulls, also their weapons are often massive upgrades instead of going for another unit or get lucky with artifact RNG not to mention some 5 stars really improves your 4 stars as well like my Xiangling is running Cyno's weapon and she's broken lol

  • @NorthWolf97
    @NorthWolf97 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +6

    One thing I'm not very hype about is the motorcycle. I just don't like the aesthetic of using it for attacks.

  • @PuggiTheGreat
    @PuggiTheGreat 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

    Its aesthetics, I think if Mauvuika rode a red dragon instead of a bike a lot more people would pull for her, get rid of the bloody bike! I’m going for Citlali.

    • @takewithfood
      @takewithfood 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      The dragon version would be the highest selling banner of all time, easily.

  • @feelsgoodman9737
    @feelsgoodman9737 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

    As a Chasca main it will be nice to have full interruption resistance with a damage boost from Citlali.

  • @Wreckedandruinedand
    @Wreckedandruinedand 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +11

    After giving it some thoughts i think pulling for mavuika just for her to support other main dps is like someone buying a high performance sport bike only to ride it in eco mode.

    • @planetary-rendez-vous
      @planetary-rendez-vous 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Makes sense but in this case all of the bikes are at the same price. So Emilie = Mavuika

    • @Wreckedandruinedand
      @Wreckedandruinedand 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @planetary-rendez-vous same price doesnt mean they are all made the same

    • @planetary-rendez-vous
      @planetary-rendez-vous 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@Wreckedandruinedand sure...but that's the cost opportunity. In the end you still pay the same price. So it just depends on what you can afford or what you think it gives for the price.

  • @N0RAMAKI
    @N0RAMAKI 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +7

    skipping both, I was saving for capitano or any tall male character but none has been created this year.

  • @ljlbobby
    @ljlbobby 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +6

    Off field characters are always more valuable than on fielders.

  • @ima-Nat20
    @ima-Nat20 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

    Definitely, everyone just don't like having yet ANOTHER pyro dps.
    Even a dedicated healer buffer would be good: Bennett has trouble working with c0 or c1 Furina because you have to balance between 50 to 70% HP and only the on-field character. Chevreuse does heal greatly, but her buffs are locked behind playing overload-exclusive teams.Etc...
    Shielders? Thoma kinda sucks in this role. Even if there's Tankfei, if they could make an explosive shield that deals Aoe damage around depending on its remaining health, that would be such a good concept. You can get damage, and application, and even if you get hit the main consequence will just be lowering your off-field damage. So dodging even with a shield would be useful, but it's not the end of the world if you can't pull it off. The perfect way to learn how to dodge while still being protected. Etc...
    But the main reason is... People like their pyro dps characters. There are already so many. People who like mister Batman got one. There's Hu Tao who's still great, and people who wanted meta got Arlecchino. Therre's people who like Arlecchino as a chharacter too. Even Lyney is still top-tier.
    So, getting Mavuika will kinda make this other character you REALLY like kinda... a bit bad to play because you always have in mind that you got a Mavuika. Whenever you'd struggle in the abyss, you'd be tempted to pull out the Mavuika. And we don't want that, it's gonna feel like trash if this mentality settles in. We're not all stupid, we know what's gonna happen. So we just don't want a Mavuika in the first place.
    There were so many things to do with a new pyro character, and they blew it up. That's to be expected, but they thought they could just pull the "hoho we're so smart by imitating all the other gacha companies with powercreep let's do it people won't notice right?" card.

    • @amandaslough125
      @amandaslough125 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Thoma's a great shielder. He just needs normal attacks. But he's got a refreshing shield that stacks with himself. It's also great with EM on a Chev team.

    • @ima-Nat20
      @ima-Nat20 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@amandaslough125 yes. It's just that it's a weakness, if you receive a big hit before you could stack his shields, the entire thing is ruined. You can't really judge this stacking shield only by its maximum efficiency near the end of the rotation.

  • @Foxziewolf
    @Foxziewolf 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    I needed off field pyro for my Mualani, if Mavuika isnt giving me that, her value drops tremendously. I really dont understand why they released a bunch of characters that need pyro reactions, and then released the archon as not an off field pyro applicator. Its just wild to me.

  • @rpgenthusiast3758
    @rpgenthusiast3758 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    Mavuika is pretty much everything I don't want. Citlali will be an infinitley better addition to my team. Mavuika is the only archon I will never use. I am all around disappointed with her.

  • @latitude990
    @latitude990 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    The archon being even close to a "who really needs this" character is just beyond wild to me. Hopefully the outlook on her improves as more people start to experiment

  • @AmbroseVermillion
    @AmbroseVermillion 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +53

    As a Neuvillette main, I’m very disappointed in Mavuika’s support capabilities for him, so Citlali all the way
    Shame devs had to put ICD in Neuvi’s kit as well.
    I don’t care about the motorcycle, if Mavuika had Nahida level application and was riding a unicycle I would be on board 100 percent

    • @andromeda2209
      @andromeda2209 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

      yepp...even then i more excited for pyro traveller than mavuika for my mualani team

    • @bencegergohocz5988
      @bencegergohocz5988 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +10

      What else do you powerwashers want? You don't even have team sloths left to replace...

    • @jms_rmr12
      @jms_rmr12 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Same I'm also Neuvilette main and All in Citlali

    • @cat-em3mj
      @cat-em3mj 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +15

      Oh no the best dps in the game isn't getting another buff

    • @allew2826
      @allew2826 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Who would you even replace with Citlali on his team....

  • @Abcxyz-ey9nn
    @Abcxyz-ey9nn 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +8

    glad you put gaming there lmfao i was about to ask "what about gaming" since you said no 4 star. well, true hes trully a 5 star 😅

    • @MugWitch
      @MugWitch 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      He is and I adore him!! One of my favorite pyro DPSs just after Lyney

  • @comteqfr525
    @comteqfr525 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +6

    Of course we're more interested in Citlali. Mavuika is ANOTHER pyro main-DPS, we already have 7 pyro 5*, and all are main-DPS.
    Granted, Dehya can support but her burst is typical of a main-DPS.
    So would you rather :
    -An 8th pyro Main-DPS.
    -An buffer to all the pyro Main-DPS you already own.
    The answer is pretty obvious, right ?

  • @louissocia1718
    @louissocia1718 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +65

    I don’t care what anybody says I’m getting biker mommy

    • @dakshjawla7886
      @dakshjawla7886 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

      Yup me too

    • @Warlord0786
      @Warlord0786 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

      Same, heres to successful mauvika pulls! Cheers!🍻

    • @ninvattanak5899
      @ninvattanak5899 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

      Based

    • @sayantanbiswas8348
      @sayantanbiswas8348 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Same she is too good

    • @HondEpic
      @HondEpic 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      🔥For Natlan! We go for the characters we love, and we love Mavuika!

  • @k.chajel1770
    @k.chajel1770 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +9

    The real answer in Neuvillette /s

  • @nfrance999
    @nfrance999 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +11

    Honestly, I think something to consider is to what degree the teams are buffed.
    Mauvika buffing some teams as an off field, is honestly moreso because we just don't have many off field for her to contend with, its not HARD for her to buff some of those teams. Because of that, I honestly don't think shes worth pulling as off field pyro because I think the "buff" to most of the teams she is buffing isn't significant. Yeah, you can potentially run her on Cinder City, but all you need is an off field pyro to ever be introduced that actually is meant to be good at the role, and she will automatically lose that value.
    Citlali meanwhile is just a generally really good option for team building, whose off field role is potentially threatened extremely easily if Hoyo ever decides to stop randomly being stubborn about off field pyro units.
    Now, if you're viewing Mauvika off field as a BONUS on top of her on field and that's playing into your decision making, fair, but as just a purely off field worth, I'd say Mauvika is actually rather low value even if she does improve teams, because she improves them in the most straight forward and easily replaceable fashion (She just does more damage then XL lol)
    As one last final point, I could see people not being interested in Mauvika as on field because most players already have potentially an assortment of on field pyro units. Having characters already competing for play time makes those characters feel worse in retrospect, so why exaggerate the problem?

  • @leylintempest1714
    @leylintempest1714 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +10

    skipping arle was an amazing decision cause now pulling mauvika wont conflict with my account.

  • @lxlYukilxl
    @lxlYukilxl 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

    hoyo is trolling f2p players at this point. Mauvika, citlali, arlecchino and clorinder in the same patch just after neuvillette and zhongli is crazy

  • @andrewphillips2520
    @andrewphillips2520 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    it's the motorbike. I just can't gel with it

  • @bonchachan6061
    @bonchachan6061 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +8

    Citlali had so much screentime full of fanservice, no wonder she's more popular

  • @alexanderericson8628
    @alexanderericson8628 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +7

    It's simple you pull for both

  • @Ben-hl3nz
    @Ben-hl3nz 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    I like both and will get both but I really love Citlali personality. she’s one of the few characters who’s given a personality in the game that’s y I think ppl like her more

  • @funkmaaru
    @funkmaaru 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

    It’s tremendously annoying that no one on the Citlali tier can use that sword from the last event lol

    • @RareAngelz
      @RareAngelz 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      I'm hoping that it's good for pyro traveler.

  • @Gaurang_Karande
    @Gaurang_Karande 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +7

    7:41 If you are using Yelan on DPS Mavuika teams then Mavuika cannot vape her hits because her optimal combos include Charged attacks and Mavuika cannot trigger Yelan's coordinated attack.

    • @TheScourgeFromBelow
      @TheScourgeFromBelow 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      True, however I am quite sure that non charged attack vaporized are better than non vaporized charged attacks. So I think both are viable.

  • @Shin-No-Usagi
    @Shin-No-Usagi 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

    Not surprised. I want a support/shielder more than a DPS. I got plenty of Pyro DPSes already.

  • @RareAngelz
    @RareAngelz 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Citlali has been my most anticipated character since the original Natlan trailer. She will be my first Natlan 5*.

  • @Coatez2000
    @Coatez2000 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    Motorbike is abysmal killed it for me there and then looks goofy asf. 😂 Team Citlali all the way 🙌

  • @flying-ship
    @flying-ship 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Citlali all the way. Mavuika _will have_ a rerun in a few months. Knowing Hoyo, Citlali will be locked into Meropide with the rest of cryos for eternity.

  • @alexsjarif
    @alexsjarif 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    As of now i'm not 100% sure but in v1 beta. Whenever u played on fielders like klee, ayato, wanderer etc etc with mavuika if u were to use mavuika instead of ur on fielder ur teamdamage would be higher in their teams 😭😭

  • @caphius6095
    @caphius6095 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Citlali seems to be a unique shielder with her elemental mastery scaling, and gives more PECH options as a support. But Mavuika so many people were hoping she'd be MORE off-field than she is, but she seems to do a lot more damage on-field, but we already have Arlecchino... and honestly? If I had to choose between a badass scythe wielder or someone who uses a motorcycle to fight???? Yeah... I prefer Arlecchino haha.
    I hope Mavuika gives enough Pyro off-field to at least act as a replacement in MOST xianglang teams (even SOME maybe) or Pyro Traveler, but so far it sounds like they won't be quite as much. Your videos are what's giving me a lot of hope right now! Most other youtubers I've noticed seem to be saying she doesn't do near enough to swap out Xiang.

  • @tstar9158
    @tstar9158 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    I think mavuika is just another DPS. I will keep waiting for a pryo off field character

  • @Sirindilable
    @Sirindilable 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +21

    isn't it better to just skip all this Natlan clowns with flying guns and motorbikes and wait for normal characters? To me its YES!

    • @hireathecho4
      @hireathecho4 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +6

      you and me both lmao. I have so much saved up for Snezniah....

    • @lynn9265
      @lynn9265 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

      Agreed, I was so happy to see Lan Yan's animations, my hope that hoyo can still make normal (aka elegant and coherent looking) animations and outfits is such a relief. I can't wait for Lan Yan and PMC. I'm saving for Capitano and otherwise just Snezhnaya for now. The only Natlan character I own so far is the free Kachina lol. Sitting on nearly 700 pulls now.

    • @MASTER_AL
      @MASTER_AL 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Snezhnaya is more technological advanced lmao

    • @sesp5322
      @sesp5322 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@lynn9265 lmao I pulled mualani I wish I could refund her, natlan is just so mid its insane

    • @Sirindilable
      @Sirindilable 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@lynn9265 I got it bro! Same thing. I usually never excited for 4 stars but after land of clowns, she feels like a real Genshin, stylish and elegant, not this Honkai/ZZZ collab. And Kachina is my only Natlan character as well:) Sitting of 120k primogems which is also around 700 pulls.

  • @totoimpact
    @totoimpact 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +7

    Why no one talking about citlali is tailor made for mavuika(if you not have xilonen). just look at her kit, the only thing she does is is playing with night soul point. with a thin paper shield and tiny buff.

    • @ISMythix
      @ISMythix 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      20% pyro and hydro res shred+40% dmg bonus from scroll+rosaria levels of cryo application+48% atk buff from ttds is a tiny buff?

    • @bencegergohocz5988
      @bencegergohocz5988 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@ISMythix in a world where Xilonen does more than that as another sustaner, yes it is.

    • @butterflyl3926
      @butterflyl3926 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@bencegergohocz5988 Melt > whatever buffs

    • @thiefpotato2759
      @thiefpotato2759 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Citlali really isn't.
      I am getting her for plunge Hu Tao. It will allow me to run Furina with Neuvillette.
      Shes also really good with Arlecchino and Neuvilette.

    • @anonnymus6355
      @anonnymus6355 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@bencegergohocz5988 Calm down there friend, xilonen doesn't do much more, same dmg buff, 20% res vs 40% res, sustain is kind of irrelevant and citlali does way more damage + applies cryo, Overall they're not far enough for ''is a tiny buff'' + ttds

  • @cutthroatcare
    @cutthroatcare 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    If there is anything I learned from Wriothesley's banner and the absolute crickets from Hoyo on Shenhe, Ganyu, and Ayaka, it's that if I have even a PASSING interest in Citlali then I better devote my all to getting her and never, ever expect to get blessed with a rerun.

  • @Ericisyourmuse
    @Ericisyourmuse 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    mavuika design is just stupid, im glad that they make citlali strong

  • @TheGwilwileth
    @TheGwilwileth 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    In the beginning, I was saving for Mavuika and skipping Citlali. Now, it may be reversed. Will wait on pulling until after release and we know more.

  • @johnreydelatorre3450
    @johnreydelatorre3450 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

    Pulling Mavuika only for the archon collection

  • @takewithfood
    @takewithfood 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    As a Navia main I'm considering Mavuika, but I'm skeptical that her pyro app will be enough. I might wait for her rerun. 100% getting
    GILFlali tho. 😅

  • @jonaswatzek3507
    @jonaswatzek3507 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    10:14 You know what else is Massive?

    • @getoffmydonglosers
      @getoffmydonglosers 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Low taaaaaaper fade

    • @shream4535
      @shream4535 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Looooowwww Tapppperr Faaade

  • @Ackshullyyy
    @Ackshullyyy 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    They’re both cool. I really enjoy Citlalis design and animations. Not enough pink and purple themed characters, plus Citlali has such a big personality she’s hard not to enjoy. Gotta pull for her. I do wish she buffed cryo though.

  • @yannischupin7787
    @yannischupin7787 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    About your intro, I have 0 hype for Mavuika and something like a 10% hype for citlali. So I think I will get Citlali in future rerun, and completely skip Mavuika, I literally don't care about the 100th Pyro dps and pyro traveler will be enough for my kinich to shine (yes I know mavuika does more DMG, but I rather make Kinich shine than having her steal the show)

  • @信衞門
    @信衞門 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Probably skipping this whole patch. Not really interested in another Pyro DPS and Citlali’s kit disappoints me because she buffs already S tier units like Arlecchino instead of elevating her element as a whole 😂

  • @TheMoonestOne
    @TheMoonestOne 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

    10:45 I don't get why you put Emilie on skip when you said she would be improved xD
    Also, I think every hydro character will be improved by both mavuika and citlali. Not only Neuvillette/Mualani, but also Furina and other hydro supports you didn't mention.
    This tierlist is a little messy, I'd say, but it was a good reflection!

    • @lashoutyt928
      @lashoutyt928 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      He said he wasn’t ranking supports multiple time

    • @TheMoonestOne
      @TheMoonestOne 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @lashoutyt928 Emilie is not a support. I mean, what is Yelan doing there, if that's the case xD

    • @TheMoonestOne
      @TheMoonestOne 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @lashoutyt928 OH you were talking about the hydro part? Sorry.
      You're right, I just wanted to say that was the case regardless.

  • @sam91177
    @sam91177 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    As someone who has C1R1 Hu Tao, C1R1 Arle and soon gonna have C2R1 Mavuika, I feel like C2R1 Citlali is going to be one of the best supports ever

  • @cloudunderweather9554
    @cloudunderweather9554 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    i have WAAAY too many pyro dps characters to not prioritize the granny that buffs them, I dont need another pyro dps. Klee may not be as strong as mavuika, but how close can she get with grannys help? I'm curious to see for myself. Thats why i'm skippin the arcon

  • @juggernaut6666
    @juggernaut6666 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Giving up thoma in Clorinde chevruse is not happening. I dont care how much dps she adds giving up the shield will not happen. Clorinde feels awful without IR.

  • @gabe_lai
    @gabe_lai 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    Nah. The motorcycle is such a turnoff. Also, claymores dont have a good rep in Genshin.

    • @ankitjadhav6775
      @ankitjadhav6775 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Lore skippers excuses

  • @HelloRab.
    @HelloRab. 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    All these youtubers talkin about the new characters like I'm not pulling for Arlecchino and having zero regrets 😂

  • @Cee_Kaye12
    @Cee_Kaye12 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Me committed to father upping her constelations, sorry mavuika😅

  • @grimoireweiss3099
    @grimoireweiss3099 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    Citlali seems like the better chooce b/c of the characters I have. Kachina is the only natlan character I have, excluding traveler later.

  • @Dwerynith
    @Dwerynith 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Citlali gang, who cares about mavuika, my granny can't be this cute

  • @skyboy884
    @skyboy884 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +9

    Hoyo really messed up by making Mavuika YET ANOTHER pyro DPS

    • @HuH22132
      @HuH22132 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Better than YER ANOTHER SUPPORT ARCHON

    • @OKCTHUNDERFUN
      @OKCTHUNDERFUN 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@HuH22132 no its NOT and plus archons (minus zhongdong) hav sub-dps AND DPS capabilites and are damn near universal, WHILE MAVUIKA IS DPS/sup dps locked behind NATLAN CHARACTERS😭

  • @Swing-q7x
    @Swing-q7x 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    I don't think Mavuika will feel good as a sub-dps with non-Natlan-characters. You want to give her more field time if she can deal equal or even more damage than the main dps. Otherwise she fells wasted. But Natlan main dps will increase the damage of her burst while they are using her nightsoul points. Probably this will balance Mavuikas lower time on-field.

  • @LadyHermes
    @LadyHermes 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

    Jello finally opening his eyes to the reality because of viewers stats. Yeah, wake up, veterans players are mostly disappointed ny Mav.
    She's been designed for new players who only have Natlan characters and to make whales waste their primogems on Xilo, Mav and Citlali in order to reach the "new absolute meta team".
    No thanks, we already have Hu Tao, Arle or XL and we don't want to all in into a character which roles is already filled and who needs Xilonen to be really efficient.
    Hoyo's greed has ruined it all once again. And the worst part is they thought we wouldn't notice.

    • @ankitjadhav6775
      @ankitjadhav6775 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Nah, Im Veteran. I love Mavuika nd as a lore enthusiast bike makes sense.
      Citlali is jut fodder nd fanservice

  • @Camelia437
    @Camelia437 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    As a veteran player, I'm disappointed with Mavuika, because I wanted a pyro sub dps that was good with many characters I had before Natlan and even before Fontaine too.
    To me, she doesn't seem meta-shifting enough to prioritize her and I prefer Citlali for now.
    I have characters who can be good with Citlali, others with Mavuika, some with both and others who you don't know if they are good with them or not.

  • @Leathal
    @Leathal 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    Now that the dust is (probably) settled on Mauv changes, can she at least 1:1 replace Xiangling for off field at C0? Dehya tier off field isn’t worth it for me and good lord I don’t need another on field pyro

    • @bencegergohocz5988
      @bencegergohocz5988 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      People are just doomposting. In most teams, she is good at being an offielder. The only ppaces where she isn't are teams that need an unreasonably large pyro app.

    • @blueraine21
      @blueraine21 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      She is just a slightly better xiangling with massive caveats of needing natlan units.
      Without Xilonen or Citlali, good luck charging her burst to decent amount
      When we get Schneznaya or Khaenriah units, she is gonna be useless cos she needs to consume nightsoul points from natlan units..

    • @amandaslough125
      @amandaslough125 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Most characters actually don't need Xiangling's amount of pyro application. I have both Thoma and Dehya maxed, and any on fielder I have has worked fine with either one, with a slight leaning towards Dehya being more useful. Mavuika actually does slightly more damage than Xiangling when off field and has Arlecchino damage overall as on field. She'll be perfectly fine as a character wherever you use her if pulled.

  • @tycopsyche
    @tycopsyche 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Mavuika requiring nightsoul characters to engage her kit is the main reason I'm pulling Citlali; that, and both Arle and Neuv are my mains. So Citlali was always going to win!

  • @Law_verse
    @Law_verse 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    Waiting for biker mommy at 70 pity🗿

  • @IzzyKuroNeko
    @IzzyKuroNeko 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    One of the reasons to pull for Citlali is that Shenhe has ran twice and Wriothesley only once, personally I'm terrified. Cryo jail is real.

  • @clown2005
    @clown2005 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +6

    Good list but i would personally add rizzly and ganyu to the mavuika list because most of their team have a tight rotation with xangling and mavuika will most likely be an upgrade for them. She should provide enough pyro for both of them to melt. Not to mention the scrols set buff for both of them.

    • @ISMythix
      @ISMythix 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      If anything mavuika makes the rotations even tighter because of her slower pyro app 😭
      Rizzley best team is with furina, mavuikas pyro is too slow for rizzley to melt in that team
      mavuikas pyro app is also slow for ganyu so u either delay ur shots (reducing ur dmg by a lot) or u just don't melt half ur hits (reducing ur dmg by a lot)

    • @marcosmartinez281
      @marcosmartinez281 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@ISMythixeven if she doesn't become BiSz giving flexibility to a character is still a buff, mavuika melt will give wriothesley a new team without furina, allowing him to run parallel in abyss with characters such as Neuvilette, Cyno or Chasca who want Furina even more than Wrio.

    • @clown2005
      @clown2005 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @ISMythix ganyu is understandable since i don't have her so i cannot say without surety. But even if rizzly's best team has furina you will be able to get 40% elemental damage bonus from mavuika and plus she will improve the teams overall performance because of the scrolls set ( either hydro or cryo ).

  • @kian-ganji
    @kian-ganji 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    I already have arlecchino and there is still hutao and lyney, even diluc and gaming if you pair them with xianyun
    I don't want another infield pyro DPS I want either an offield pyro applicator and sub dps or a pyro buffer, they chose to give her the lamest role they could've (although i still get her because i like her character)