Sony A7rIII vs A7rII Real-Life Review - Why I upgraded (A7R3 vs A7R2)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ม.ค. 2018
- Sony A7RIII vs Sony A7RII. Which one is the better buy in 2018? I've shot with the A7rII for over a year, and recently upgraded to the new A7RIII. Here is my take on the new camera and the improvements it has made over its predecessor, the A7rII.
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I’ve been shooting professionally for 30 years, so here’s my take: good review, but I don’t know why the menu is at the top of everyone’s list. It’s not any worse than any other menu on any camera I’ve ever owned and if you use the camera daily or at least frequently it becomes quickly intuitive, so no problem.
The biggest upgrade between the two seems to be the dual card slots and the bigger battery. That’s a useful improvement. Still use common sense with cards, (avoid high GB cards, stick to trusted brands, and change and format cards often) and don’t get too confident in the dual slots.
The sensors are the same in both cameras so image quality appears identical. I also haven’t noticed a big difference in autofocus, but then I don’t shoot sports or fashion, mostly architecture, products, and landscapes/wildlife, and I often manually focus so maybe that’s just me.
I’ve used the a7Rii every day for 6 years and found it to be tough, reliable, quick, and have amazing image quality. I’ve rented the a7Riii, and never found the need to pony up for the switch. I guess It just depends what you use it for.
For a lot of people, the a7Rii is STILL a great and sensible choice.
A youtube comment with a substantive rundown than the 50TB of A7R2 vs A7R3 content on YT. Excellent, thank you.
thank you for this calm and honest review!! i was shooting with my a7rii for 2 years and upgrading to iii now
Great video Sean! Loved your in-depth review :-)
This was really helpful, thanks Sean!
Great in depth review. I enjoyed your comparison of the two cameras. Going to have to upgrade to the A7RIII.
Thank you. I started with the a6000 and now looking to choose between a7riii and the a7iii.
I want the larger resolution camera. So many times my clients need something cut out of a picture to use somewhere else or in a design. Large format and shoot RAW always. Make the most of every shutter.
Thanks for making the video. I've used the A7Rii for just over 2 years and it's a great camera, but the buffer and write speed (to UHS1 SD cards) is so slow. At least once every shoot, when I want to let a client review the images we just shot, I have to wait for the camera to finish writing (compressed RAWs) to the SD card before we can playback the images. I have said "This is a great camera but it does write very slowly" so often, it's become second nature. Looking forward to getting the A7Riii so that I don't have to keep buying time when I'm with a client.
Great video,its just the curtain behind you needs a descent iron....
I upgraded from the a7rii as well and I agree the a7riii is a much better camera especially when moving the focus point which was a real pain with the a7rii. I just love using the a7riii its just so much fun.
I had a7r and upgraded to a7r2 but am waiting for hi-rez a9 series to come instead. a7r3 just not a significant upgrade for studio landscape type stuff!
Is it worth buying a7rii in 2018? Currently I’m using a7. And yes the budget is a matter. Just wanted to know if there are better options in other brands being a hobby photographer.
Hello Sean, thank you for this video. I've got one question about the shutter, I understand that you like the sound of it but is it possible to turn it off? Thank you for shearing and always answering my questions via different media. All the best to you.
Sean Dalton thank you that's good as an option for street photography for example.
Soon, you can get an A7iii with all the A9 perks at 2g’s!! Kinda wish you compared the actual shutter sounds between the 2 in continuous!!
Was looking up both in a review said a 7r 2 take better photos?
What kind of camera functions can u map on R3 custom buttons that u can’t do it on R2 ?
Why are none of the reviews mentioning the fact that the 7R3 has 120fps at 1080p, which the 7R2 lacks and it also does 10fps shutter, where the 7R2 only does 5fps. Apart from that, great review.
Hey Alex good point. With what I shoot I am not too concerned about shutter FPS, but that can be a big one for sports photographers or others shooting high speed actions. I'd recommend the A7III over both of these cameras for that
Hi Sean, I have been thinking about upgrading from the 2 to the 3 But I am shooting mainly landscapes and real estate with the A7r2 and so speed is not really the issue. I use a A99m2 for portriats and Iuse the A6500 for sport and hummingbirds. so I cant really justify spending anothert $2000 or so on the R3 at the moment.
What lens do you have on your a7r3 ??
Plus the focus system has been improved on the a7rIII. I had read a lot of information on the a7rII and was not impressed. I decided to hold out for a dependable camera and predictable. I just wanted to watch videos of what the users experience is.
Plus the upgraded duel card slots ( mandatory if your professional) bigger battery for longer life so you don't miss those critical pictures for clients.
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So thank you Sean. :)
one question, can you deactivate the shutter noise on the a7riii?
A plus for the a7rii not mentioned is the in body panoramas and the play memories store that the a7riii does not have.
Bullshit on the shutter. Yes, they may sound different. BUT, both the A7RII and the A7RIII have a mechanical shutter. Both are also capable of shooting with an electronic shutter.
I'm watching this in 2024 and this was the point I just stopped watching it. Guy claims to know the camera so well, and then doesn't know it has a mechanical shutter?! Yeah, right.
Still have an a7rii in 2020. Started shooting some wildlife and birds after picking up a used Sony 100-400 GM. Buffer and focusing is not good as expected. Should i upgrade to a a7rii or should I try to save more for a a7riv? thanks!
A7RII is a solid camera still. The buffer is a bit slow though I agree. Did you end up upgrading?
@@seandalt No, I haven’t yet. Rented an a6400 that tracked pretty good with sports and wildlife but the ergonomics and size make it uncomfortable to use for long periods.
Is it GM 85mm 1.4?
Now 3 years later, price has come down enough to buy one, cant wait.
Good video! Thank you for sharing. But I did have some major issues with what you said.
The only real argument here seems to be the dual card slots for the a7riii.
The camera freezing has not been an issue for many people including me, a long time user of the a7rii. Autofocus for me on the a7rii has always been fantastic and impressive. The original a7r was truly terrible. Customizability has always been great, with the ii we just have one less c button. You should have taken the time on the ii to setup your buttons. It leads to smoother operation certainly. Also, I've learned the menus at this point, they're weird but not impossible to work with. I really don't see a difference in the new menus other than where everything is located.
Lastly, the price difference is astronomical. Making an upgrade almost pointless unless you need that dual card slots Imo.
Oliver Valente Appreciate your insight man. Of course the rII is a fantastic camera. And you’re right, some of the things I mentioned really aren’t that bad. I do think it’s much faster and more efficient to use though, and that’s something I value because I like to shoot fast.
It’s the same price as the rII when it came out, and resale value is good on these cameras, so for me it wasn’t much of a price problem. It’s not a necessary upgrade, not at all, but it’s one I’m very happy I made.
Sean Dalton Photography definitely understandable as a working photographer. If you have the money and it fits your workflow already why not!
I don't make my living off of photography so there's the perspective difference for sure.
Love both cameras just think some of the differences weren't as impactful as let's say the move from the a7r to the a7rii.
Thanks for the reply!
@@olivergoldvalente The better camera is the one you have to think less about and not baby sit the functions, and the menu system is stupid. After years of use, when using different settings its still a pain. I have had it lock up ,and I have to restart..and guess what? The stupid thing defaults to the settings you last had when you turned the camera OFF, like from another shoot. So you loose all the settings. So if battery is out, you need to put your settings back ....Very unprofessional and thoughtless. I hope the viewfinder is better, and same with the screen!! When I pick up the 5D3 or5D4, its like a battleship that was designed for war...whatever you throw at it, it falls off and says give me more I will not stop. The A7R2 shutter sounds like its gonna croke and die at each click, like a complaining annoyance ....my 1Ds3 takes the cake on shutter sound...I mean that thing should be sampled and used in top music mixes....lol....but seriously....I am about to get the A&R3 and I hope I am not gonna be upset not spending so much more for upgrading my A&R2 instead of my 5D to the R5. I really want the R5, but the price I cannot justify, and I could care less about video.
But I can get an a7rII for literally half the price...
less than half.. picked up mine used with 7000 clicks for 780€
@@dm976 how so? it is around 1400 usd, 1300 euros, at best!
@@zenza7120 i said used. and you have to search for the diamond in the mud ;) if you are interest in a used one in great shape i am willing to sell one because im switchin to the a9 and ariii. but im located in europe so customs will cost a lot to the us
@@dm976 Is it still available?
@@kabil1986 just sold on monday, sorry man^^
Is there a reason for not using a strap on the camera?
Crow T Robot probably should be, but I find it just gets in the way. When I’m doing something active I’ll use one
Great review man, I have the a7rii and a bunch of other cameras as well, as much as I like the R3 I don't think I'll upgrade, I like how slow the R2 is, it help me focus more on getting a better shot, also I wouldn't use it for fast action or sports, mainly landscape and street and af speed wouldn't bother me as it actually push me to be more creative and use mf instead
what about start up-lag? its so frustrating on the a7r2
Hey Johnny. 100%, super annoying. It's much better on the r3. Still a tad, but nothing compared to the r2.
thank you
What lens you have on a7r3?
85 1.4!
but the jpegs looks not good at least on my 6500
sitting on a chair: "real life" :D :D :D
touche ;)
who is felicia?
"I know this camera in and out".... "I haven't tested the video yet."
:/
haha, good video, pretty helpful.
LMAO bye Felecia on that battery...….AGREEEEEEED!
lol yeah those batteries are no bueno.
Sean Dalton Just upgraded to the RIV w/ battery grip. It’s probably a pretty close call but I think I could finish an entire wedding day on 2 of those new batteries. Also the RIV is just beautiful. Such a huge upgrade over my Rii
Does the A7rii have live view mode
Yes it does!
Sean Dalton thanks 🙏
the real question is is the upgrade worth the +1200$ CAD you spend on the a7Riii
For this upgrade, I would say yes. But not always.
for ME biggest upgrade is the shutter sound, sound on r2 is shiiiiet
you just feel they could of easily done these upgrades over a year ago..
Sluggish??? Ya... not at all.
Can I buy your R3 :)
Sold it a lonnggg time ago :)
@@seandalt lol I actually ended up buying one
@@fsneaks2811 solid camera! I hope you enjoy it
You upgraded because your a gear junkie and you'll do the same when the next model comes out, (much to Sony's delight). If you need this camera to take 'better pictures' you may need to question your abilities as a photographer.
tony james I upgraded because it makes my job easier. And I certainly didn’t say it takes better photos, sensor is exactly the same buddy ;) Upgrading is a small price to pay for a pro photographer who shoots everyday, definitely wouldn’t call myself a gear junkie lol
I love tony james instant hostility, amazing stuff the internet. Nice review mate
Reviews like this are strange.Than a6000 users must jump of a bridge.If you have money does not mean you are a pro. You just want the camera works all for you. You dont need more than 2 fps and try to work with a film camera and when you get some results than make a review
Too much repetition.
nah a7riii still not worth the upgrade, not much upgrade on a7riii that’s worth the price. except if the person is a gear JUNKIE. Companies love gear junkies.guys i’ve tested a7riii it’s still like a7rii with a little worthless “upgrade” lmao ,Sony only hyped it. dont be a junkie lol