though carvalho was a legend that season john terry was an unbelievable cb for the whole of his chelsea career and was the best leader that chelsea could have had
@@barry4649Premier team of the year, European defender of the year and PFA player of the year. In the Fifa pro world 11. But this clown thinks Ricky was better 😂
Looks like a young Bruce Campbell from an alternate universe where the Evil Dead was a flop so he never became famous and decided to eat his troubles away..
@@jamessetters8226 How is it irrelevant when Pie is literally the moderator here? If this lad had made a compliment about a hot girl, I doubt that you would waste your time commenting that. Take a chill pill, we’re just showing a little respect to the lad’s work.
Prem legend doesn’t mean is better he’s just won more in the prem van dijk is the better defender I don’t know how anyone can disagree he beats him in every defensive attribute
@@Cnic0606 he literally doesn’t put a foot in, I know he had the injury but he was already falling off before that, if you’re scared to tackle people you can’t be called world class, I feel like he’d be getting a lot more criticism if he didn’t have Trent next to him putting in some of the worst performances I’ve ever seen from a supposedly ‘generational talent’
@@thedeviousgreek1540 Lol and yet Kante is out here working wonders in the BPL👌 and Makelele was a better playmaker than Kante, sure Makelele would be fine these days😊
In terms of careers, agreed. In terms of individual seasons, Fabinho was the best DM on the planet from 2018-2020. Whether he gets in or not, there is a debate.
@@DS-dw3pz all those names you’ve said have had better careers, but you’re again missing the point it’s about individual seasons not a career. Even suggesting Rodri for that time period is an absolute embarrassment. Kante brilliant but played less than half the season he could never stay fit and Busquets is the best DM of all time but was well past his best. Casemiro is the only comparison.
I am a die hard Red and been going home and away for 30 odd years. I have been fortunate enough to witness some of the best players to ever live in the flesh including Messi, Ronaldo, Fat Ronaldo, Nesta, Maldini, Cannavaro... the list goes on. However, putting my Virgil bias aside, John Terry is the best defender I have ever seen in person. Good with both feet, could ping, brave, strong, great in the air, scored goals, proper leader, proper captain and a serial winner. If there was ever a defender that I wish was a scouser who played for Liverpool it would have been him.
Bravo for noting Carvalho. He was superb and for at least 3 seasons I think he was better than JT. Might be the most underrated CB in Prem history (comments, I said underrated!)
Cos Liverpool fans can’t accept Van Dijk isn’t the player they think he is. He’s a fantastic centre half don’t get me wrong but he isn’t even top 10 centre backs of all time in the PL.
@@chrispeacock4614 hhahah never Already 3 years and hes in the debate He's wc only this season he's been off But even then he's picking up his performances He's got pace strength heading tackling and passing over jt The only think Jr had over him was the ability to shag ur bros wife
Terry has the best passing accuracy in premier League history. I think they might be too young to remember much of the Chelsea team cause I heard a lot of waffle
@@kaydenn2791 he was being compared to van dijk? Think about it. He did take risks too. He would knock it out wide and play passes through the middle. Just didn't hit worldly long balls
@@nolpan9708 defensive awareness, leadership, could pass with both feet, highest scoring cb in prem history, consistent for 10+ years, went a whole prem season only conceding 13 goals. Being big and covering distance quickly doesn’t make you better then the best cb in prem history ffs 😂
@@boxinganalysis9818 this is the point you’re struggling with. We are not comparing who is the greater premier league centre back, because the answer would be JT for his longevity like you say. We’re comparing individual seasons, a season in which VVD finished only a handful of votes off winning the Ballon Dor, he was that good. No CB on the planet came close to him from 2018 up until he done his ACL.
If you take the careers of the players into account rather than just one isolated season you would have more Chelsea players as they had an era of dominance rather than just one title winning season.
Well statistically we are one of the best teams in prem history based of points tally’s. Liverpool have got 90+ points in 3 seasons. Only Chelsea once and City 3x have ever got over 90 points.
@@FloatLABSLB but this isn't like they're saying Terry is great because he didn't concede goals? They're talking about the defence as a whole, there's kinda no denying that right?
Are u mad .... firminos a better better footballer any day of the year. Drogba is only useful in chelskis mourinhio filthball. Kick players hoof the ball kick out of play crap. Bobby is just sublime. You are no liverpool or football fan. Dnt u dare disrespect Bobby firminio. 300 games for us . The player that makes us play.
@@kjctvsym1 he is better than Drogba. Go support Drogba well support n cherish the best in the world bobby firmino. Drogbas just a thug on a field compared to bobby football wise.
You saying you a liverpool fans the worst thing I ever heard. You are no liverpool supporter. Ur one of those fools that would boo hendo. N put a legend of our team behind Drogba
@@akramebrahim1446 I've been supporting since 2003 u melt, drogba 2005 season was better then firmino 2019 season, the worst thing you've ever heard 😂, have u ever even been to anfield?
How can Liverpool fans say they were the best side to win the premier league?? Conceded more than 15 goals- can't be better than Chelsea's Only one trophy- can't be better than United 99 Didn't beat the point tally- can't be better than City's Centurions Didn't go the season unbeaten- can't be better than the invincibles I don't get how they can hype there team up so much to be on the same levels as Blackburn and Leicester 😂
Terry and Carvalho didn't concede the fewest goals in premier league history, it's a weirdly misrepresented fact that. Why does no one remember that Carvalho got injured just before the record clean sheet record run started then came back from injury the game it ended. Chelsea's best CB partnership statistically was Terry and Gallas
@@DevDRed-ns3hg People still says Van djik is best CB and he has made many errors leading to goal. He doesn't get banter as much as other CB get. Van djik is really good defender but not as good as Terry. That season when Van djik was on top because Liverpool played with 3 midfielder who did lots of defensive work and made Van djik look much better. But still Van djik is good , not much good as Terry.
@@DevDRed-ns3hg lol congratulations he's been very good for the last two months. How has he been this season? Also...which one of the top defenders in PL history has been a starter for a team that conceded 7 goals?
To be fair its that year where vvd was mopping everything up, I believe terry’s best year was not this year. What im tryna say is the argument is the year specifically. Vvd and terry were close in terms of what they were to each team that season.
Chelsea Backline and GK beats liverpools Backline And GK All day long conceding 15 goals for a whole premier league season is mental and wont be beaten
@Jamie Hayes well yeah because mourinho played counter attacking football low block defensive and made it hard to play against and win on a 1-0 hence why his home record of staying unbeaten for 77 games was mental Liverpool was the closest but failed
@National Treasure with the way teams are playing attacking football I doubt it and having high scoring games all the time I doubt it to concede 15 goals in a season is pretty special
he does lol, he said last combines Liverpool and Chelsea team he so deluded even said i guess put Lampard inside as well. like he was thinking about it
John Terry and Ashley Cole should get in there all day long. And although the focus is on one particular season for each club, Terry and Cole had more good seasons at their peak than Virgil and Robertson are showing currently.
Who said that? I’ve seen rival fans post that rubbish online, but haven’t heard many lfc fans actually say it though? Even in this video Paul wasn’t saying that 😂
@@zorenwhite7886 Yeah. Scoring 17goals and 6 assist this season in 28 games is finished. The Liverpool team is struggling overall but still he's scoring goals. Give some respect to the man.
@@sharvaansharex how has he ? His A shot stopper his shit at commanding his area his shit with his feet 🤣 There are so many out there better that can do the lot .
@@jamiehayes5888 De Gea has been a world class gk for man utd, got into multiple team of the seasons while his backlines have been Jones,Maguire,Smalling,Rojo etc
Yeah, because sometimes the records aren’t just down to individual players, they’re down to systems. Liverpool played all out attacking football, Mourinho played very defensive football, so naturally they will concede fewer goals. Can you really debate Trent VVD or Robertson, three of the best individual seasons of all time in their positions?
@@tommyvinceze6249 I'd peck Paulo over TAA personally, the lad is quality on the ball but cannot defend and I've got enough attacking players to not worry about my right back chipping in.
How dominant were liverpool when they won the league? Still didn't have the best defence in prem history. Carvalho and JT were incredible. I had a season ticket over that time and often would check the reviews of games. Terry would get a 7 or 8 rating and Carvalho would get a 6 when if anything, would be the other way around. Drogba wasnt the player he became ironically until Shevchenko arrived. My team. Cech Trent Carvalho Terry Robertson Makalele Lampard Henderson Salah Drogba Mane
@@HT008 exactly my point. Still didn't do what Chelsea did in 04/05. Which if you carried on reading and could process information you would have understood.
If it's season Klopp won the league before 6-8 games before the season ended dominated 3-0 3-2 4-0 5-0 every game destroying team while Jose did have best defence domination alone klopp
the chelsea fan makes a bit of sense though, it’s a bit like choosing matip over konate based off last season, matip was better but konate will probably go on to have a better career so looking back people will say konate was the better centre back when realistically it was matip, it’s just konate showed the potential he had
Lewis has incredible and unbiased football knowledge. I wish they had more pundits, presenters, commentators and just anyone that talks about football like him
The greatest CB partnership in The League were JT and Carvalho. VDV had two great seasons in his career and Liverpool fans act like he was one of the greatest. I will place the likes of Vidic ahead of him.
Cup final coming up and I'm asking to pick Prime Terry or Prime Virgil.. Its a close one but I'd go for Terry. Despite all his off field issues he was a proper leader on the pitch. Not quick but his positioning was top and Id back him to put his body on the line more than Virgil. Both quality players though
As a Chelsea fan, I would've liked a representative with more passion and more drive within his arguments for this simply phenomenal Chelsea team. Brilliant overall team but come on be more passionate with your arguments show some convictions and don't let yourself be walked over by scousers.
Tbf the team they picked out was perfect I’d say, I don’t think I’d disagree with any of them and he was really chill but he’s not biased and delusional like most fans like that liverpool fan wasn’t bad but said a few things that shout delusional bias
Can’t be that passionate about something that happened when he was about 5-10 years old I’d imagine. Not sure why he didn’t go for Carlos 2010 team. Essien and A.Cole would of been shoe ins . Anelka arguably too. Could of had 6 Chelsea Cech JT Cole Essien Lampard Drogba. And argued a case for anelka over Salah and probably more memorable fir his given it was 5 years later
@@ZESTCFC Malouda scored 12 in 09/10, Mane scored 18 in 19/20 what r u on about? 💀 That 09/10 team were lucky for most of the season (shoulve lost to United in their first meeting) and were in a neck and neck race with a CR7 less United for a majority of the season not dominating like 04/05 did.
To be fair they both delivered differently for there clubs . I would have Drogba every day but without Bobby Liverpool was a completely different side . He was the main cog for the Liverpool attack.
Don't care about 1 particular season. Salah couldn't even lace Robben's boots. Robben was an elite footballer, anyone who rates Salah higher than him either doesn't understand football or is just a blind scouser.
the cole vs robertson debate is hard, robertson did nothing wrong defensively and going forward he’d provide so much, yes cole was better defensively but robertson would only give away 2/3 goals a season from individual errors whereas he’d provide 10 assists a year, cole wouldn’t concede any. It’s similar to trent vs walker, walker wouldn’t make defensive errors but wouldn’t do much going forward, trent would give up a couple goals but assist 15
Drogba scored 10 goals in the league that season, Firmino had 9. And we all know who does more in other aspects. Firmino for that season takes it over Drogba’s season
How can Trent be the best right back of all time when he’s at best average at defending😂 Liverpool fans are really up there when it comes to overrating players.
@@jjjohnson13 I saw all the trophies he's won and only 23 there we're talking about one season and trent was the best rb in 19/20 season so stop moaning you sad pathetic kid
@@scotthamilton6237 cheers mate for the comment at the end can tell you’re a nice bloke but all you have to do is look at the stats and I’d argue he would have won 5x more premier leagues if it wasn’t for the super team that is Manchester City
I am Portuguese and Carvalho its top 2 center backs from Portugal. He goes against pepe but even when he was playing with 38 he was one of the best cbs on the world
@@BobbytheWolf89 it was meant to be a sarcastic comment mate. Taking the piss out of Mourinhos tactics. He did well against peps Barcelona who were the best team in the world.
@@jacobhuggins7572 I ain’t even a Liverpool fan mate but that isn’t really relevant as the initial comment was about Mourinhos Chelsea, not ranieris, not grants, not scolaris or hiddinks etc And Mourinhos Chelsea also lost to Benitez’s Liverpool in the fa cup in 06
Statistically that one season based on points tally’s that Liverpool side is the 2nd best in prem history. Just behind the centurions in Man City. I don’t get why all these rival fans getting so triggered 😂
The only stats that matter in ANY season are what cups did you win. And Liverpools best double since 2001 is the Carabao cup and FA cup haha. You're jokers lads.
That Liverpool guy is too funny 1 compares Bloody firmino to Berkamp 🤷♂️ 2 would pick Robertson even if Ashley Cole was there that season OMG 🤣 3 lastly says Trent might be known as the best right back ever once he finishes his career 😭 OK mate Cafu & Alves were cricketers Liverpool guy is more biased than Gary Neville
Every Liverpool fan is like this, they haven't had success for so long, got lucky with Klopp and now think all these decent players who Klopp made are the best in the world
@@mardanhar82 The player who had the better 2008 champions league final out of the 2 and was in the winning team? Evra also created the best chance of the match while Cole was outran & beaten to the ball by CR7 despite cashley having a few yards headstart which almost led to 2-0 & game over. It's not hard to work out. Evra & Cashley are both the same age and they also both played for ManUtd & Chelsea respectively from 2006 to 2014 and Evra & ManUtd absolutely dominated the PL in that period and Chelski didn't at all they just got 1 fixed PL title in 8years by 1 point after cheating home&away vs the best team again ManUtd who were the better team in those head-to-heads also. Irwin would've been best LB for many PL years, likewise Evra. Where as Cashley could've only been the best PL LB for a couple years max and it would've been after Irwin left ManUtd and before Evra joined ManUtd so whilst Cashley was at Arsenal not Chelski. Evra & Cashely also moved to SeriaA in 2014/15, Evra continues to do better than Cole by winning the league and reaching another CL final. Cole won what with Roma? Cole didn't even win anything with the most famous team in MLS. Evra got further for his national team he made a final, Cashley never made it past QF. Evra even got to a champions league final with Monaco funnily enough the same year Cashley only reached the QF with so called invincibles. Cashley never won back-to-back league titles in his career despite playing 14 PL years for strong title chasing clubs etc...Evra easily could've won 7 PL's in a row but he still got 5 in 7 seasons. Evra was a very important player in ManUtd's dominance in the time he played for them and you've got to also take into account no one should've been dominating Chelski during this time Chelski were trying to buy the PL & CL every 1of those years and they just cheated/fluked 1 PL & 1 CL in those 8 years. Cole's best strength he's fast wow so is Evra, Evra was also good defender and I think better at assisting & scoring. Evra & Cashley were both 1 footed so Cashley can't even say he was better in that regard. Evra overall was just better and I don't think his better career than Cole was just a fluke. Also not just Evra & Irwin but most people in general are smarter than AshleyCole who just sounds so dumb. I bet Evra knows how to speak more languages than Cole. I was going to say Cole can only speak English but he can barely do that. He was also shit role model ill disciplined and a cheater on & off the pitch etc...
With thanks to Paul Machin, CareFreeLewisG and Jack 'Pieface' McDermott
How Is Drogba better than Firmino in link up plays
Picking carvalho over Terry is peak football knowledge. That season he was impossible to play against.
Terry did win PFA Player of the Year that year for a reason though. That partnership was the best in Premier League history
@@barry4649 hahaha
though carvalho was a legend that season john terry was an unbelievable cb for the whole of his chelsea career and was the best leader that chelsea could have had
@@barry4649 because he is english in england my man
@@barry4649Premier team of the year, European defender of the year and PFA player of the year. In the Fifa pro world 11. But this clown thinks Ricky was better 😂
That Chelsea fan understood what the debate was about, thus he chose Carvalho over Terry, not sure the judge did.
Pie face's weight loss and beating gambling addiction story is honestly inspiring.
Bit irrelevant
Looks like a young Bruce Campbell from an alternate universe where the Evil Dead was a flop so he never became famous and decided to eat his troubles away..
@@jamessetters8226 How is it irrelevant when Pie is literally the moderator here? If this lad had made a compliment about a hot girl, I doubt that you would waste your time commenting that. Take a chill pill, we’re just showing a little respect to the lad’s work.
Calm down simpasouras stop begging it
He promotes kids to gamble on fifa
11:25 Even as Liverpool fan there’s no way I’ve just heard Paul say Fabinho is the best DM in the Premier League, in 2023.
He loves him mate. Liverpool fan here too. Rodri/partey/Casemiro streets ahead atm
@@clb6406 only this year
@@Stev4e897 Don't live in the past man, the player is way behind those three mentioned.
Casemiro plays Rugby mate😂
@@mika-eelkhan15 ofc doing things different making himself stand out from the rest doing rugby tackles
3 gentlemen right there. Great to see Pieface doing so well after all the stuff he had to deal with, seems like such a good bloke.
What did he have to deal with?
@@Y0kemeister had a really bad gambling addiction and was fat
@@jw045 was?
@@JamieReynolds89 nothing nice to say just don’t say anything? He was massive and has done very well for himself
@@robertsavage9655 so you’re telling me to say nothing if I haven’t got surgut nice to say but you’re the one saying he was a massive lump of DNA?
Jose’s Chelsea was a different kind of beast
if that chelsea team was in a league with liverpool 19/20 and city 17/18, I dont think chelsea wouldve won the league XD
As much a legend as JT is, Carvalho was an absolute monster that season
3 years of VVD and apparantly hes one of the best ever in prem history, behave man, JT 100x more of a prem legend than VVD
Prem legend doesn’t mean is better he’s just won more in the prem van dijk is the better defender I don’t know how anyone can disagree he beats him in every defensive attribute
@@Cnic0606 no he’s not Lmfao
@@benclarke8214 what has he got over van dijk not passing not pace no strength not defending not heading so tell me
@@benclarke8214 terry only has better leadership
@@Cnic0606 he literally doesn’t put a foot in, I know he had the injury but he was already falling off before that, if you’re scared to tackle people you can’t be called world class, I feel like he’d be getting a lot more criticism if he didn’t have Trent next to him putting in some of the worst performances I’ve ever seen from a supposedly ‘generational talent’
Makelele playmaking ability was underrated. I remembered multiple teams in the EPL manmarked Makelele to stop the counter attacks he would release.
Makelele was the team engine
Bro was everywhere anytime
After he left real Madrid they suffered a lot
The liverpool guy said he wouldnt be as effective in the ''modern game'', imagine that.
@@thedeviousgreek1540 Lol and yet Kante is out here working wonders in the BPL👌 and Makelele was a better playmaker than Kante, sure Makelele would be fine these days😊
"Why put another layer of gold paint on the Bentley when you are losing the entire engine?"
-Zidane after Makelele was sold for Beckham
Great to see Pie being recognised as a good football pundit/ presenter
He isn't either here you plank
@@bobbybobstar1496 What you on about?
@@jonnyhawkins7744 do you need help with everything?
@@bobbybobstar1496 I think you do 'Bobby' you need it spoon fed to you.
@@jonnyhawkins7744 nah don’t get me wrong love pie seems like a top lad but had shite loads of bad takes in just this video
The audacity to even make a case against Makelele for Fabinho lol
In terms of careers, agreed. In terms of individual seasons, Fabinho was the best DM on the planet from 2018-2020. Whether he gets in or not, there is a debate.
@@tommyvinceze6249lol Kante Busquets, Caseimiro, Rodri etc2 all exists so stop it
@@DS-dw3pz all those names you’ve said have had better careers, but you’re again missing the point it’s about individual seasons not a career. Even suggesting Rodri for that time period is an absolute embarrassment. Kante brilliant but played less than half the season he could never stay fit and Busquets is the best DM of all time but was well past his best. Casemiro is the only comparison.
Carvalho was a scary defender,great pick tbh,what an underappreciated player
Only top ball knowledge people know how underrated and under-appreciated Paulo Ferreira was guy always done his job well at Chelsea.
No proper Chelsea fan could ever back down on the JT Van Dijk argument
Terry all day
@@ssamith3176 no
@@colefranklin965 oh yes
King JT all day
@@colefranklin965 you can’t seriously think Terry is not as good as Van Dijk. He’s levels above and his longevity exceeds miles farther than Virgil.
Carvalho was class..why was pie so shocked about that decision.
terry
@@m.a.r.4.5.6 yeah Terry was worse than Carvalho you’re right fella x
That goal against newcastle earlier this season was clutch
@@Milo_751 different carvalho
Yeah I agree, Carvalho was class that season but John Terry (in the 04/05 season) was better than VVD was (in the 19/20 season)
I am a die hard Red and been going home and away for 30 odd years. I have been fortunate enough to witness some of the best players to ever live in the flesh including Messi, Ronaldo, Fat Ronaldo, Nesta, Maldini, Cannavaro... the list goes on. However, putting my Virgil bias aside, John Terry is the best defender I have ever seen in person. Good with both feet, could ping, brave, strong, great in the air, scored goals, proper leader, proper captain and a serial winner. If there was ever a defender that I wish was a scouser who played for Liverpool it would have been him.
Your a Chelsea fan trying to comment as a liverpool fan. You’re not fooling anyone 😂😂
@@AJ-dl2by some people aren’t delusional and biased and can just speak the truth, it’s 2023 now brother, try it sometime
Im a Liverpooll supporter of 30+ years and i completely agree.
@@AJ-dl2by no legit, John Terry was absolutely unbelievable and during our big rivalry there was nobody better.
Saying “Fat Ronaldo” is a bit disrespectful though is it not?
That Liverpool fan just compared Firminio to Bergkamp 😂😂😂
In terms of technical ability absolutely
@@leighpalmer1234 your sokong drugs
@@leighpalmer1234 bruh
@@leighpalmer1234 alr just shush
@@Jn.curry10 why don’t you
The Liverpool fan only ever watch Liverpool play or something?
What
Fyi he was on a wind up this video 😂
That’s most Liverpool fans. Most Liverpool fans were born in 2016 lol.
Why?
@georgetinsley1558huh
Are we going to skip past the fact he said he’s taking Robertson over prime Ashley Cole 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I know it's laughable that Coles name is mentioned in such a debate guy is only known for shooting an academy player or something
@@PaulMuldoon97 cole clear
@@PaulMuldoon97 delusional mate cole is one of the best left backs of all time robbo could never 😅😅
@Kai Blatch look at the all time assists for full backs in the prem and look who's at that top of it where oh where is Ashley
@Kai Blatch Ashley Cole is literally what Glen Johnson would look like if he was a left back
Bravo for noting Carvalho. He was superb and for at least 3 seasons I think he was better than JT. Might be the most underrated CB in Prem history (comments, I said underrated!)
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How can you say Terry didn’t have the making of a modern cb when he won the league in 14/15?
the guys a Bell End
Because Liverpool.
He's a Liverpool fan
Cos Liverpool fans can’t accept Van Dijk isn’t the player they think he is. He’s a fantastic centre half don’t get me wrong but he isn’t even top 10 centre backs of all time in the PL.
@@chrispeacock4614 hhahah never
Already 3 years and hes in the debate
He's wc only this season he's been off
But even then he's picking up his performances
He's got pace strength heading tackling and passing over jt
The only think Jr had over him was the ability to shag ur bros wife
Terry has the best passing accuracy in premier League history. I think they might be too young to remember much of the Chelsea team cause I heard a lot of waffle
Passing accuracy doesn't mean anything if he doesn't take risk
@@kaydenn2791 he was being compared to van dijk? Think about it. He did take risks too. He would knock it out wide and play passes through the middle. Just didn't hit worldly long balls
@@kaydenn2791 he used to ping the ball with either foot. Very underrated on the ball
The fact they went for Ricardo Carvallo and VVD is great ball knowledge
Carvalho! So frikkin' good! Great shout! Unbelievably underrated centre back.
Did he just say that firmino will be remembered in the same light as Dennis bergkamp? 🤣
why not
The biggest reason Carvalho's name doesn't get mentioned in best centrebacks conversations is because he isn't English.
Van Dijk is a class centre back and one of the best the prem has seen but there is no way you can say he is better than John Terry
How? Name me 2 things terry is better at
@@nolpan9708 defensive awareness, leadership, could pass with both feet, highest scoring cb in prem history, consistent for 10+ years, went a whole prem season only conceding 13 goals. Being big and covering distance quickly doesn’t make you better then the best cb in prem history ffs 😂
@@boxinganalysis9818 i mean he is quite literally the best leader of all time and prolly top 5 best goal scoring defenders in the prem lol
@@boxinganalysis9818 this is the point you’re struggling with. We are not comparing who is the greater premier league centre back, because the answer would be JT for his longevity like you say. We’re comparing individual seasons, a season in which VVD finished only a handful of votes off winning the Ballon Dor, he was that good. No CB on the planet came close to him from 2018 up until he done his ACL.
If you take the careers of the players into account rather than just one isolated season you would have more Chelsea players as they had an era of dominance rather than just one title winning season.
Thanks for having me on!
"take him on"
GGs Lewis! yo we just signed Noni! :)
JT best prem centre back of all time 17 years of class
Rio better player. JT more influential to his team and better leader. Close matchup.
How about that season?
@@FloatLABSLB very good
@@LoyalFan9383 better than vvd or cavalho?
VVD finished 2nd in the Ballon D'or. There's not one aspect of Terry's game that was better than prime Virgil.
This is a class debate with no bullshit answers or reasons why just two guys who have decent ball knowledge
Liverpool Luxury: Only 1 Title and you're suddenly the best in Prem History
Well statistically we are one of the best teams in prem history based of points tally’s. Liverpool have got 90+ points in 3 seasons. Only Chelsea once and City 3x have ever got over 90 points.
Well this is based off a single season. 98 points. 33 wins, most of any team in PL history.
Why’s a Man City fan talking, win a champions league then talk
Not the swarm of scousers coming to this comment 😂
@@LoyalFan9383😂
There is no argument to be had between Drogba and Firmino. Drogba is miles clear
In which way?
In getting red card for slapping vidic. I love him for that. Lol lol 😆 for me his finest moment.
Its not that big of difference
Jesus how is Drogba and firminho a debate. Drogba was a beast
from the back 4 and GK is all Chelsea with the 04/05 season the job is about defending and not conceding which they done the best simple facts.
Team stats do not completely define an individual players performance over the season
Just put Trent in there then it’s fine
@@LoyalFan9383 if Trent was there they'd concede more than they did.
@@FloatLABSLB but this isn't like they're saying Terry is great because he didn't concede goals? They're talking about the defence as a whole, there's kinda no denying that right?
@@FountainOfYoot Trent 19/20 was class at defending
That liverpool is a weapon. Trying to play down makelele as nostalgia and saying how he wouldn’t be good in the modern day prem 🤦🏼♂️
I'm a liverpool fan but firmino over drogba is got to be one of the worst things I've ever heard
Are u mad .... firminos a better better footballer any day of the year. Drogba is only useful in chelskis mourinhio filthball. Kick players hoof the ball kick out of play crap. Bobby is just sublime. You are no liverpool or football fan. Dnt u dare disrespect Bobby firminio. 300 games for us . The player that makes us play.
@@akramebrahim1446 I highly rate firmino, one of are best players in the klopp era but if u think he's better then drogba Ur smoking spice bro
@@kjctvsym1 he is better than Drogba. Go support Drogba well support n cherish the best in the world bobby firmino. Drogbas just a thug on a field compared to bobby football wise.
You saying you a liverpool fans the worst thing I ever heard. You are no liverpool supporter. Ur one of those fools that would boo hendo. N put a legend of our team behind Drogba
@@akramebrahim1446 I've been supporting since 2003 u melt, drogba 2005 season was better then firmino 2019 season, the worst thing you've ever heard 😂, have u ever even been to anfield?
How can Liverpool fans say they were the best side to win the premier league??
Conceded more than 15 goals- can't be better than Chelsea's
Only one trophy- can't be better than United 99
Didn't beat the point tally- can't be better than City's Centurions
Didn't go the season unbeaten- can't be better than the invincibles
I don't get how they can hype there team up so much to be on the same levels as Blackburn and Leicester 😂
Terry and Carvalho didn't concede the fewest goals in premier league history, it's a weirdly misrepresented fact that. Why does no one remember that Carvalho got injured just before the record clean sheet record run started then came back from injury the game it ended. Chelsea's best CB partnership statistically was Terry and Gallas
Chelsea fan had a great amount of knowledge
Imagine having a CB who’s been good for 18 months over terry 😂
good for 18 months but made uefa TOTY 4/5 years loooool
@@DevDRed-ns3hg and then nosedived.
@@DevDRed-ns3hg People still says Van djik is best CB and he has made many errors leading to goal. He doesn't get banter as much as other CB get. Van djik is really good defender but not as good as Terry. That season when Van djik was on top because Liverpool played with 3 midfielder who did lots of defensive work and made Van djik look much better. But still Van djik is good , not much good as Terry.
@@FountainOfYoot lol social media narrative he's been very good the last 2 months but hey go off
@@DevDRed-ns3hg lol congratulations he's been very good for the last two months. How has he been this season?
Also...which one of the top defenders in PL history has been a starter for a team that conceded 7 goals?
Never seen anyone as good in one on one situations as Alisson? Big Pete was the best at one on ones.
Can’t believe VVD made it into this team. JT makes it into every single PL team,no questions asked.
To be fair its that year where vvd was mopping everything up, I believe terry’s best year was not this year. What im tryna say is the argument is the year specifically. Vvd and terry were close in terms of what they were to each team that season.
Van Dyk that Season was the best player/defended in the world he was acknowledged for a Balloon Dor and should've won
Comparing Roberto Firmino to Dennis Bergkamp is the epitome of Liverpool delusions.
That season
Chelsea Backline and GK beats liverpools Backline And GK All day long conceding 15 goals for a whole premier league season is mental and wont be beaten
Ahh but that was down to a low block set up from mourinho too.
Not just about the defenders you had.
Chelsea were set up to not lose games .
every record will be beaten someday
@Jamie Hayes well yeah because mourinho played counter attacking football low block defensive and made it hard to play against and win on a 1-0 hence why his home record of staying unbeaten for 77 games was mental Liverpool was the closest but failed
@National Treasure with the way teams are playing attacking football I doubt it and having high scoring games all the time I doubt it to concede 15 goals in a season is pretty special
Van Dijk had 3 good seasons. Terry was at Chelsea for over 10 years.
But this is about the 19/20 season, they're bot ranking them based off their careers
No way does Paul think Robertson is a better left back than Ashley Cole 😂😂😂
he does lol, he said last combines Liverpool and Chelsea team he so deluded even said i guess put Lampard inside as well. like he was thinking about it
Cole only joined Chelsea in 06. Obviously he shits on Robertson
One guy was talking about a player performance that year , while the other was talking about the players carrer in the club overall .
Cech, Trent, Terry, Carvalho, Cole, Lampard, Essien, Makelele, Salah, Drogba, Mane. No debate.
No debate cuz u said so?💀
First rule of anything never listen to a Liverpool fan
John Terry and Ashley Cole should get in there all day long.
And although the focus is on one particular season for each club, Terry and Cole had more good seasons at their peak than Virgil and Robertson are showing currently.
Ashley Cole from Arsenal should get into a Chelsea 04/05 and Liverpool 19/20 combined season?
@@stephenskyle609 🤣🤣🤣
I've not watched the whole video but did they not pick ashely Cole? That's stupid
You just stated the focus is ONE particular season and you still go on to make that statement about other seasons........
Cole didn’t join Chelsea until ‘06 mate
Alisson
Trent Terry VVD Robbo
Fabinho Makelele
Lampard
Salah Drogba Mane
Mourinho' team easy win
Just no
@@nolpan9708just yes
Liverpool fan absolutely delusional, Robertson over Cole if he'd played for Chelsea that season 🙄.
Cole played at arsenal at that time
Based off a single season Robertson got like 13 assists, kept 21 clean sheets, show some respect.
@@vakhogotsiridze6488 that's why he said " if he'd played for Chelsea that season"🤦🏻♂️
Robertson most assists from a fullback in Prem history. Nostalgia can be a powerful thing.
How do Liverpool have the best players in every position in prem history yet only have 1 premier league title
Not the point
2 games difference and it’s 3. All about perspective mate
😂😂😂😂😂😂 good point
Because city have a better squad lol kinda obvs
Who said that? I’ve seen rival fans post that rubbish online, but haven’t heard many lfc fans actually say it though? Even in this video Paul wasn’t saying that 😂
I don’t think you can have a debate about Salah One of the best players in premier league history
Manc
hazard>salah
@@filthyuncleben2645 the guy that was finished at 29?
@@asianwarrior2193 Salah is finished at 30
@@zorenwhite7886 Yeah. Scoring 17goals and 6 assist this season in 28 games is finished. The Liverpool team is struggling overall but still he's scoring goals. Give some respect to the man.
To even suggest Robertson above Ashley Cole is utterly ridiculous.
Delusion was real when he said he would of picked Robertson over Cole
Man said Robertson is better than Ashley Cole 😩😩
Stick for choosing Cech????? He played 35 games and kept 24 clean sheets.
If anybody picks Alisson, they need their head checking.
A goal keeper is only as good as there defence .
Put cech in a different side he would have had less clean sheets right or wrong ?
Wrong
@@jamiehayes5888 De Gea has proven u wrong throughout the years
@@sharvaansharex how has he ?
His A shot stopper his shit at commanding his area his shit with his feet 🤣
There are so many out there better that can do the lot .
@@jamiehayes5888 De Gea has been a world class gk for man utd, got into multiple team of the seasons while his backlines have been Jones,Maguire,Smalling,Rojo etc
Im a big Bobby Firmino fan but mab Bobby over Drogs?😂Your having a laugh.
Cech,Trent,Carvalho,JT(capt)Cole,
Lamps,Makalele,Gerrard
Salah,Drogba,Hazard
Chelsea conceeded 16 goals the entire season yet somehow the back 4 has 3 Liverpool players in it...
Yeah, because sometimes the records aren’t just down to individual players, they’re down to systems. Liverpool played all out attacking football, Mourinho played very defensive football, so naturally they will concede fewer goals. Can you really debate Trent VVD or Robertson, three of the best individual seasons of all time in their positions?
Cole over Trent all day long and ivanovic over Robertson 😂 tf
@@taygoudie6974 what?
Obviously because mourinho plays strictly defensive football
@@tommyvinceze6249 I'd peck Paulo over TAA personally, the lad is quality on the ball but cannot defend and I've got enough attacking players to not worry about my right back chipping in.
Knew he'd be deluded the minute I saw him
How dominant were liverpool when they won the league?
Still didn't have the best defence in prem history. Carvalho and JT were incredible.
I had a season ticket over that time and often would check the reviews of games. Terry would get a 7 or 8 rating and Carvalho would get a 6 when if anything, would be the other way around.
Drogba wasnt the player he became ironically until Shevchenko arrived.
My team.
Cech
Trent
Carvalho
Terry
Robertson
Makalele
Lampard
Henderson
Salah
Drogba
Mane
How dominate? Fastest team to win the prem ever! That’s how dominate lol
@@HT008 exactly my point. Still didn't do what Chelsea did in 04/05. Which if you carried on reading and could process information you would have understood.
The Trent Delusion lmfao
If it's season Klopp won the league before 6-8 games before the season ended dominated 3-0 3-2 4-0 5-0 every game destroying team while Jose did have best defence domination alone klopp
I'm sorry I don't understand this sentence
@@FloatLABSLB He's scouse, they type like they talk, arseways.
@@Kloppsserialbottlers but I thought Liverpool fans were plastic
@@Kloppsserialbottlers Better than being a posh londoner
"Do you like vanilla ice cream?" LMAO
the chelsea fan makes a bit of sense though, it’s a bit like choosing matip over konate based off last season, matip was better but konate will probably go on to have a better career so looking back people will say konate was the better centre back when realistically it was matip, it’s just konate showed the potential he had
But this is about two seasons only
Lewis has incredible and unbiased football knowledge. I wish they had more pundits, presenters, commentators and just anyone that talks about football like him
Paolo fereira was a monster lads
Im just glad of these videos i suffer mental health/depression but liverpool make me so so happy goodnight x
it's an era thing Liverpool fans so delusional Ashley Cole better than any LB Liverpool have ever had
No it’s not
My guy chugged about a litre of orange juice 😂
The greatest CB partnership in The League were JT and Carvalho. VDV had two great seasons in his career and Liverpool fans act like he was one of the greatest. I will place the likes of Vidic ahead of him.
In terms of career wise yes, but this is about 19/20 season vs 04/05 season
@@chrislfc2317 well said Chris
vvd isn't a better defender he hasn't had to face the quality of strikers and wingers Terry had to.
Robertson over Ashley Cole says it all for how delusional he is
Cup final coming up and I'm asking to pick Prime Terry or Prime Virgil.. Its a close one but I'd go for Terry. Despite all his off field issues he was a proper leader on the pitch. Not quick but his positioning was top and Id back him to put his body on the line more than Virgil. Both quality players though
As a Chelsea fan, I would've liked a representative with more passion and more drive within his arguments for this simply phenomenal Chelsea team. Brilliant overall team but come on be more passionate with your arguments show some convictions and don't let yourself be walked over by scousers.
Tbf the team they picked out was perfect I’d say, I don’t think I’d disagree with any of them and he was really chill but he’s not biased and delusional like most fans like that liverpool fan wasn’t bad but said a few things that shout delusional bias
Can’t be that passionate about something that happened when he was about 5-10 years old I’d imagine. Not sure why he didn’t go for Carlos 2010 team. Essien and A.Cole would of been shoe ins . Anelka arguably too. Could of had 6 Chelsea Cech JT Cole Essien Lampard Drogba. And argued a case for anelka over Salah and probably more memorable fir his given it was 5 years later
Also 2010 CFC front 3 scored 52 goals and 2019 Liverpools front 3 scored 42 . Malouda scored more than mane did. And Ballack gets in over Henderson.
@@ZESTCFC Malouda scored 12 in 09/10, Mane scored 18 in 19/20 what r u on about? 💀 That 09/10 team were lucky for most of the season (shoulve lost to United in their first meeting) and were in a neck and neck race with a CR7 less United for a majority of the season not dominating like 04/05 did.
Chelsea guy saying Robben over Salah is evidence of a meth addiction
no ball knowledge, Ricardo Carvalho was by far the best CB of them all
💀
Thinking Robertson would come out on top of Ashley Cole who was the best LB the prem has seen is peak Liverpool fan
The fact it was even a debate between Firmino and Drogba is embarrassing 6:06
To be fair they both delivered differently for there clubs .
I would have Drogba every day but without Bobby Liverpool was a completely different side .
He was the main cog for the Liverpool attack.
diffrent players
Don't care about 1 particular season. Salah couldn't even lace Robben's boots. Robben was an elite footballer, anyone who rates Salah higher than him either doesn't understand football or is just a blind scouser.
the cole vs robertson debate is hard, robertson did nothing wrong defensively and going forward he’d provide so much, yes cole was better defensively but robertson would only give away 2/3 goals a season from individual errors whereas he’d provide 10 assists a year, cole wouldn’t concede any. It’s similar to trent vs walker, walker wouldn’t make defensive errors but wouldn’t do much going forward, trent would give up a couple goals but assist 15
Drogba scored 10 goals in the league that season, Firmino had 9. And we all know who does more in other aspects. Firmino for that season takes it over Drogba’s season
How can Trent be the best right back of all time when he’s at best average at defending😂 Liverpool fans are really up there when it comes to overrating players.
It's about that one season you muppet
Have you seen his assist numbers for 23 years old?
@@jjjohnson13 I saw all the trophies he's won and only 23 there we're talking about one season and trent was the best rb in 19/20 season so stop moaning you sad pathetic kid
@@scotthamilton6237 cheers mate for the comment at the end can tell you’re a nice bloke but all you have to do is look at the stats and I’d argue he would have won 5x more premier leagues if it wasn’t for the super team that is Manchester City
@@jjjohnson13 you gets assist no when you don't give shit in terms of defending.
I am Portuguese and Carvalho its top 2 center backs from Portugal. He goes against pepe but even when he was playing with 38 he was one of the best cbs on the world
Mourinhos Chelsea would have beat klopps Liverpool in a final. They would have put 10 players in the box and then won 1-0
Mourinhos Chelsea couldn’t even beat Benitez’s Liverpool in a Semi Final
@@BobbytheWolf89 it was meant to be a sarcastic comment mate. Taking the piss out of Mourinhos tactics. He did well against peps Barcelona who were the best team in the world.
@@BobbytheWolf89 Bruh,we knocked you lot out more in the 2000s than you did to us
@@jacobhuggins7572 I ain’t even a Liverpool fan mate but that isn’t really relevant as the initial comment was about Mourinhos Chelsea, not ranieris, not grants, not scolaris or hiddinks etc
And Mourinhos Chelsea also lost to Benitez’s Liverpool in the fa cup in 06
Lol alisson is a recipe for disaster with his feet
I am sure John Terry was pretty painful to play against for strikers. Great leader aswell.
Love the combined XI videos!
Statistically that one season based on points tally’s that Liverpool side is the 2nd best in prem history. Just behind the centurions in Man City. I don’t get why all these rival fans getting so triggered 😂
Statistically that one season based on defensive record, that Chelsea side is the 1st best in premier league history.
The only stats that matter in ANY season are what cups did you win. And Liverpools best double since 2001 is the Carabao cup and FA cup haha. You're jokers lads.
@@Kloppsserialbottlers I mean chelsea have oil money so their trophies don’t count
@@LoyalFan9383 whenever you rival fans get proven wrong can always count on you to run back to the oil money excuse 😂
@@Kloppsserialbottlers We won the league, Super Cup and Club World Cup, and at one point in time we were also ucl holders along with those
The Liverpool fan is deulded, prime Terry absolutely smacks up a prime Van Dijk
That Liverpool guy is too funny
1 compares Bloody firmino to Berkamp 🤷♂️
2 would pick Robertson even if Ashley Cole was there that season OMG 🤣
3 lastly says Trent might be known as the best right back ever once he finishes his career 😭 OK mate Cafu & Alves were cricketers
Liverpool guy is more biased than Gary Neville
Clueless Liverpool fan, it’s sad to see but it’s the world we live in
Every Liverpool fan is like this, they haven't had success for so long, got lucky with Klopp and now think all these decent players who Klopp made are the best in the world
He thinks speaking fast and using his hands to speak makes his point a fact
Apparently Robertson is better than Ashley Cole 😂😂😂😂😂the football knowledge is crazy
Cashley is the best prem LB of al time, its not up for discussion haha.
No way was he as good as Irwin or Evra and their career's stats & honours completely justify that statement.
@Dan ..Hold on did you just compare Evra to Cole? 😂
@@mardanhar82 The player who had the better 2008 champions league final out of the 2 and was in the winning team? Evra also created the best chance of the match while Cole was outran & beaten to the ball by CR7 despite cashley having a few yards headstart which almost led to 2-0 & game over.
It's not hard to work out. Evra & Cashley are both the same age and they also both played for ManUtd & Chelsea respectively from 2006 to 2014 and Evra & ManUtd absolutely dominated the PL in that period and Chelski didn't at all they just got 1 fixed PL title in 8years by 1 point after cheating home&away vs the best team again ManUtd who were the better team in those head-to-heads also.
Irwin would've been best LB for many PL years, likewise Evra.
Where as Cashley could've only been the best PL LB for a couple years max and it would've been after Irwin left ManUtd and before Evra joined ManUtd so whilst Cashley was at Arsenal not Chelski.
Evra & Cashely also moved to SeriaA in 2014/15, Evra continues to do better than Cole by winning the league and reaching another CL final. Cole won what with Roma? Cole didn't even win anything with the most famous team in MLS.
Evra got further for his national team he made a final, Cashley never made it past QF.
Evra even got to a champions league final with Monaco funnily enough the same year Cashley only reached the QF with so called invincibles.
Cashley never won back-to-back league titles in his career despite playing 14 PL years for strong title chasing clubs etc...Evra easily could've won 7 PL's in a row but he still got 5 in 7 seasons.
Evra was a very important player in ManUtd's dominance in the time he played for them and you've got to also take into account no one should've been dominating Chelski during this time Chelski were trying to buy the PL & CL every 1of those years and they just cheated/fluked 1 PL & 1 CL in those 8 years. Cole's best strength he's fast wow so is Evra, Evra was also good defender and I think better at assisting & scoring. Evra & Cashley were both 1 footed so Cashley can't even say he was better in that regard. Evra overall was just better and I don't think his better career than Cole was just a fluke.
Also not just Evra & Irwin but most people in general are smarter than AshleyCole who just sounds so dumb. I bet Evra knows how to speak more languages than Cole. I was going to say Cole can only speak English but he can barely do that.
He was also shit role model ill disciplined and a cheater on & off the pitch etc...
@@FootkerSnooball 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@FootkerSnooball Cole and Evra in the same sentence 😂 you don’t know ball brother
The fact they was even debating Firminho over Drogba is laughable Firminho not in the same league as. Drogba
Exactly the team I would have picked. Fair play
Liverpool fans have a lot of confidence for a team that's won 1 PL title lmao