Kyle Walker in his career or Kyle Walker today? Cause if we're talking right now Ben White is clear, idk how you can think otherwise if you actually watch both teams play regularly
I'm a Gooner but I love Walker, he's been absolutely outstanding over the last 6-8 years so I find it hard to leave Walker or Ben White.... who was the best RB in the League by the way. The only thing that splits it for me is consistency, Ben White was phenomenal.
Yea so is not putting saliba. Man has been a rolls Royce defender for arsenal last season starting majority of our games. Meanwhile these 🤡's are putting BOTH dias & stones ahead of him who ironically started only like what 14,15 games? Meanwhile Steve used the argument of one season wonder for not selecting odegaard. Wtf is stones & dias, then? Really needed someone better to debate than Turkish in there. Steve & Matisse were like a tag team... 😅
When you play in the midfield next to Rodri and have the most dribbles in a UCL final since Messi in 2015 and DEFEND really well and carry the ball forward from CB position then you can do it all and be called world class.
@@AlngBalin cause he has an opinion on stones? He still conceded most of the positions so clearly he is fair, some arsenal fans wouldn’t do that, they’d unjustly argue. So to say he’s deluded after 1 take is ridiculous considering he conceded most of what’s there. Also Matisse overrides in that RB discussion so why don’t you lot mention him? lack of critical thinking & logic? Don’t let your emotions get the best of you cause you hate arsenal fans so much.
Ben White was the best RB that year, if you are going off previous years why not mention Dixon ye tit. also Waker is not & never will be the best RB in prem history, he’s not even top 5 be serious
@@marcusrashford9959 walkers good but not that good. In the world's history part, Alves, cafu, lahm and zanetti are all miles better imo. Walker has probably the best longevity for a playing at a good standard in the pl but trent has had better individuals seasons and even now trippier is in contention for the best rb atm.
City's squad over the years has changed every season bit by bit. Every season they play a slightly different style: pacey wingers, ball retention wingers, Aguero, false 9, Haaland, FBs bombing forward, FBs coming inside, 4 CBs etc. The one thing that _always_ remains is that City's best XI _every single season_ has both KDB and Bernardo in it. They are equally excellent and also complement each other perfectly. They are the two gems of Pep's City Era. Since Rodri joined City, Rodri is the only City player who played more games than Bernardo. But Bernardo was already instrumental before Rodri came, too, of course. There is no City Bext XI that doesn't include _both_ KDB and Bernardo and there shouldn't be any Combined XI with City and any other team that doesn't include both either. They are both absolutely ridiculous.
Not sure what's worse, calling for White over Walker or Zinchenko over Ake. People don't give Ake the credit he deserve, last season he was the best LB in the league, and it wasn't even remotely close. And this is coming from a Chelsea fan.
It's October 2023, White showed Walker levels yesterday and Zinchenko is a way better footballer than Ake is. Zinchenko is unique for Arsenal and the whole system falls apart when he is not playing. Aka can easily be replaced by another good ball playing centre back, he is a system player.
When city lose possession, its not like stones stays in the defensive mid position, he drops back to centre back and does the job. He had different roles for attack and defence. Without him, City wouldnt have won the treble.
@@Bradclart Stones is class and I really like him but Saliba has been elite. The guys 22 and has not been shown up by anyone, literally put haaland to bed last game
Of course grealish over martinelli. Rice and odegard are fantastic but not better than rodri or de bruyne. Saka is literally the only person who could get in
@@AJW2004 hes not that overrated if you think he plays for city. Which he does lol if saka is overrated what does that make grealish? Saka is far from overrated what makes him overrated? I bet it's not a good reason
@TP-pq9xxto go one season unbeaten in the league is impossible. Only the best team in the league had done it and its Arsenal. Besides, they done it without any oil money 😭😭
Walker not in that team is one of the most shocking decisions I have ever seen. Ask any attacker or opposing manager who would you rather play against and it’s Ben White all day. Ask any player who would you rather on your team, it’s Kyle Walker
This is a treble winning Manchester City team. THEY WON THE CHAMPIONS LEAGUE FINAL. Not one single of these arsenal players shine the shoes of these players. What a mess of a combined 11.
When you consider that Ben White got in over Kyle Walker, Alvarez and Foden didn’t get in and city still got 8 of the 11 it is a testament to the quality of our squad against what essentially the second best team of last season. Just look at the blue here 22:13. Treble winners, you’ll never sing that gunners.
@@Francisco-br4ni keep on telling yourself that, it must be very comforting to your over-inflated ego. I’m too busy enjoying all these trophies whilst watching fantastic football. You do realise your “bigger” club has hired Pep’s apprentice who is trying replicate the great man’s game?
@@UnvaccinatedPureBlood-es1gg Odegaards been way more vital to the arsenal squad than foden for city. Leader, performer (5 G/A), constantly putting pressure, etc. I cant think of one thing fodens better than odegaard at.
Saying walker played about 10 games when he made 39 appearances last season, pocketing Vinicius on the way to a treble, just shows how dumb some of these people you give a platform to can be
@n4ht4n80 they were talking about foden early on. The city fan said that cause fodens been around for a couple years were now seeing the best of him.. at 23.. as you said, just shows how stupid these guys are
People here acting ignorant to the fact that a big reason why Arsenal 'bottled' the league last year was largely down to Saliba's season-ending injury. He'd definitely start for City, along with Saka and Martinelli
Silva is great at controlling games and keeping possession, but like his midfield colleagues (except KDB) he needs a year to make a through pass to Haaland no matter how obvious the runs are. So at least when KDB is injured, I would be happy to have Ødegaard in stead of Silva in my team.
Edison Walker Saliba Diaz Ake Rodri Odegaard KDB Martinelli Saka Haaland Saliba > Stones is a close call Martinelli > Grealish is a close call Everything else is a cert (Arsenal fan)
Even arguing about Ødegaard being in there when KDB is already in there is actually ridiculous. He´s clear of any other City Midfielder, he´s there when they need him, he presses as if he´s a striker but is still defensively supportive, he´s technical, vision, skills, goals, assists no way they even argue about that
@@sergioobregon91 He was the midfielder with the most goals last season, scored against newcastle or tottenham from distance for example when they couldnt get through as a team. Silva and Foden arent even midfielders. Silva plays right wing and foden left wing so why even bringing them up?
Crazy back line but needs to be a bit of red and blue for content's sake - Defence defo has Walker and Ake in, with Stones pushing into midfield, and central CB is Dias as a nailed-on.
People always focus on maguire for England but his pairing with stones is the reason England have done so well recently and I honestly think if you put any other centre back next to maguire it would’ve been the car crash you’d expect, stones brings the best out of maguire. Done it for years for England and always for city to just been masked by injuries. Still top 2 centre backs in the world
@n4ht4n80 we've not forgotten his last international break, don't try that 1 😂 BTW I'm 1 of the rare 1s who remember his unbelievable wc.. turning our opening game into a comedy, he's let us down plenty, we just outscored the likes of iran
.... I'm a M. Utd fan and as the game has gone I don't really think that any of Arsenal's player gets in the team of M. City! Haaland Martinelli Saka Silva KDB Rodri Ake Dias Stones Walker Ederson This is to make a slightly more combined game. If not all M. City players in!
Arsenal are so prideful. We all know that Man City's squad clears everyone and no player (especially from Arsenal) gets in. Martinelli doesn't get in over Doku, Foden, Grealish, and Saliba doesn't clear England's best defender.
Turkish is soooo deluded. Saka because he gets in England team over Foden.... Then talks about Ben White over Walker.... Id have walked out. Hes not taking it seriously.
The disrespect on Bernardo Silva I swear to god 0 ball knowledge , he walks straight in this team are you guys high … better than Saka better than Odegaard he’s better than this whole thing
Odegaard never dropped off at any point last season. Scored big goals and assisted big goals in London derby and Newcastle away. Foden has popped up with a few goals when his sides winning 3-0 already :/
The XI is fine but Turkish missed a couple of key arguments imo Odegaard did turn up even when Arsenal were faltering in the late season And Saliba was injured for the late season, widely considered the reason why they fell off Not an Arsenal fan but just some of the points imo
As an unbiased City fan, I'm sorry, not having any Arsenal player in my team... Not one. Saka doesn't play ahead of Foden/Bernardo. Martineli doesn't get a kick ahead of Jack/Doku. As for the other positions, their players are just not good enough.
@@AJW2004 because its individual comparison not team comparison, No he wouldn't because like I said Martinelli is better and is better for arsenal, Trossard is technically better too🤷🏻♂️
@@curtisohara9158 players contribute as part of a successful team to win trophies, price is to do with length left on a contract, how many clubs need that type of player at that time etc. To discount trophies is ridiculous when a player has contributed towards a treble. Grealish is better than martinelli and trossard, Arsenal look awful this season despite the results. I think they'll really struggle Sunday. I doubt they'll challenge for the league like last year either. I'm a neutral, I reckon most other neutrals would pick grealish over trossard and martinelli too!
Man’s out there acting like saliba is prime van dijk, and Ben white is the rb Maldini. Saka is the only one that gets in a combined 11. He’s the only Arsenal player who’s done it for more than a season
@chiefnama790 lol he actually does though. Foden had his worst season last year and was out for months injured, yet still only had 3 less GA than Saka who is supposedly the best winger in the world now, AND that's with Saka on pens! 😂
@@tristanfeinauer he kinda does though, from last season Foden scored or assisted every 115 minutes, Saka scored or assisted every 128 minutes. I really do think people have been thrown off by his injuries last year more than anything.
Dropping Walker because he didn't play a massive part in last season and then not including Odegaard because he's only had 1 good season last year is the most backwards thing ever man
I am an Arsenal fan but I'm also objective enough to know that none of our players will probably start on a Manchester City team. Even the backups for City are as good as our starters. For example, they argued one position between Bernado, Foden, and Odegaard. City can play either Silva or Foden without comprosing quality. But Arsenal only have Odegaard and nothing else comparable.
@@BestInTheWorld13x Saka gets in on the right without a question, Saliba can get in and under pep would become 100X better and Ode would get in if KDB is injured
Here’s how the team should look Ederson Walker-Stones-Dias-Ake KDB-Rodri-Bernardo Saka(if you’re feeling generous)-Haaland-Grealish Any Arsenal players being in this debate is a joke
@@thetruth4654yes you’re definitely delusional, grealish scored 5 goals in all competitions, but he’s better than martinelli who got 15? Stop doing drugs
@thetruth4654 What's that based on? Tell me how INDIVIDUALLY the players you think are better than these players are better? Otherwise, you're just waffling.
Lets build the team with purely Man City players (in a 4-2-3-1) and see how many Arsenal players can step in: GK: Ederson RB: Walker RCB: Stones LCB: Dias LB: Gvardiol RCM: Rodri LCM: Kevin de Bruyne RW: Silva CAM: Alvarez LW: Foden FW: Haaland Unfortunately, the only position that is open to debate right now is the Left Back Saliba has done well in his one season with Arsenal but he has not shown to match the consistency and capabilities of Stones over multiple seasons Rodri > Rice, plus I feel that Rice would be better as a CM, not a CDM You ain't dropping KdB or Haaland Alvarez (World Cup winner + Treble winner) > Odegaard Foden > Saka: Treble Winner (yes, I am going there again), plus he has had to play himself into the first team against fierce competition from the likes of Grealish, Mahrez, etc. Saka doesn't really have competition at Arsenal on the right wing Silva > Martinelli If it were my favoured 3-4-1-2: GK: Ederson RCB: Saliba CB: Stones LCB: Dias RCM: Rodri LCM: Rice RW: Silva CAM: Kevin de Bruyne LW: Foden RF: Alvarez LF: Haaland
Wow I thought Turkish was one of the somewhat 'sensible' and less delusional Arsenal fans 😂😂 I stand corrected Edit: While Chelsea were an oil club by definition (Roman's reign) Chelsea won more trophies than City and won everything there is to win in club football, something City are yet to do.
Let me guess ur one of the uneducated rival/Chelsea fans that think vhelsea is bigger than Arsenal. Yet u have the nerve to say u stand corrected abt Turkish bcuz his logic is more logical than urs 💀
Thanks to Big Steve, Turkish and Matisse for taking part
Make sure you bring big6ix for a show they deserve the spotlight
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Big up the mandem and love for the love
Only Saka get in to the arsenal vs man city combined xi
@@jamiulalam2221 you are delusional
As an Arsenal fan. Ben White over Kyle Walker is shocking
Yeppp , arsenal fan too and that’s ridiculous lol walker is a absolute freak
Wasted energy on that argument to roll over on saliba who is probably the one player pep would pay anything for
@@rs82uk 💯 bro
@@rs82uk doubt he'd pay 'anything' considering he already has 4 players much better suited to his system and another with far better potential
Then you are not Arsenal fan.
Kyle Walker started 22 games in the prem last season. The idea he didn't play much is a myth
That's just over half a season? So 22 is not a lot but i'd still have walker all day
@@jamesrawl3648He was injured as well
@@jamesrawl3648he misses 2 months.
That’s not a lot for a rb, most fullbacks play every game
Blud that's 16 games missed lol
arsenal is a small club, they dont even have a champions league. Even nottingham forest is bigger than them LMAOO
Im an arsenal fan and i wont put white over walker, but i will still debate it anyways😅😅
I’d have akanji over Ben white any day. Never mind Walker.
These arsenal fans are getting out of hand. 🍼
Assna fans always delusional. Not surprised.
Ur a mong then. walker is levels above
Kyle Walker in his career or Kyle Walker today? Cause if we're talking right now Ben White is clear, idk how you can think otherwise if you actually watch both teams play regularly
Not putting Walker in the team is an absolute joke.
Walker does drop a mistake though his pace often rescues him
I'm a Gooner but I love Walker, he's been absolutely outstanding over the last 6-8 years so I find it hard to leave Walker or Ben White.... who was the best RB in the League by the way. The only thing that splits it for me is consistency, Ben White was phenomenal.
Yea so is not putting saliba. Man has been a rolls Royce defender for arsenal last season starting majority of our games. Meanwhile these 🤡's are putting BOTH dias & stones ahead of him who ironically started only like what 14,15 games? Meanwhile Steve used the argument of one season wonder for not selecting odegaard. Wtf is stones & dias, then? Really needed someone better to debate than Turkish in there. Steve & Matisse were like a tag team... 😅
@@JD-mc3bl How is Dias a one-season wonder ???
@@Godfather_-mv6vi how many seasons has he had for city where he's started atleast 25 games a season?
Stones is a world class defender now, put some respect on his name.
Idk about world class but he’s getting there
When you play in the midfield next to Rodri and have the most dribbles in a UCL final since Messi in 2015 and DEFEND really well and carry the ball forward from CB position then you can do it all and be called world class.
@@georgefakhry359nah he’s a top player but not world class. Has too many average attributed defensible. He’s top top class though
The system makes him look better
He's not consistent enough to be world class imo
Calling Stones a world class Rob Holding is one of the worst things I've ever heard
True mate😂
That’s arsenal fans for you
Turk went right down in my eyes with that comment.
Disappointing comment from turkish. Soon to be Robbie 2.0
@@AlngBalin cause he has an opinion on stones? He still conceded most of the positions so clearly he is fair, some arsenal fans wouldn’t do that, they’d unjustly argue. So to say he’s deluded after 1 take is ridiculous considering he conceded most of what’s there. Also Matisse overrides in that RB discussion so why don’t you lot mention him? lack of critical thinking & logic? Don’t let your emotions get the best of you cause you hate arsenal fans so much.
Ben White over the best rb in premier league history is wild 😂
Didn’t hear Trent in the chat
lmao @@buddysally886
Ben white isn't even good enough to bench Dalot
Ben White was the best RB that year, if you are going off previous years why not mention Dixon ye tit. also Waker is not & never will be the best RB in prem history, he’s not even top 5 be serious
Great fun this one 😂 enjoyed it
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@@RyanE01 what a sad man
He has difficulties😂@@olivercampion2360
Parents basement dweller yous🤣@@RyanE01
lad youve had a stinker not puttin walker in
White over Walker is an absolutely insane shout. Walker is arguably the greatest right back the league has ever seen
easily best RB in PL history, top 2-3 RB’s in world history
@@marcusrashford9959 walkers good but not that good. In the world's history part, Alves, cafu, lahm and zanetti are all miles better imo. Walker has probably the best longevity for a playing at a good standard in the pl but trent has had better individuals seasons and even now trippier is in contention for the best rb atm.
@@kleptomania2631 genuine question - what’s your opinion on Trent Alexander-Arnold?
Great player, shat his pants when Martinelli came on though.
Yes. He is
Kyle Walker was an integral piece to our treble winning side last season and he played well over 30 matches aswell.
@jeffsroyalbodyguard7642 quite possibly!
Walker singlehandedly neutralize Vinicius Jr.
@jeffsroyalbodyguard7642 facts the season before proved it when he was injured
City's squad over the years has changed every season bit by bit. Every season they play a slightly different style: pacey wingers, ball retention wingers, Aguero, false 9, Haaland, FBs bombing forward, FBs coming inside, 4 CBs etc.
The one thing that _always_ remains is that City's best XI _every single season_ has both KDB and Bernardo in it.
They are equally excellent and also complement each other perfectly. They are the two gems of Pep's City Era.
Since Rodri joined City, Rodri is the only City player who played more games than Bernardo. But Bernardo was already instrumental before Rodri came, too, of course.
There is no City Bext XI that doesn't include _both_ KDB and Bernardo and there shouldn't be any Combined XI with City and any other team that doesn't include both either. They are both absolutely ridiculous.
So true, bang on the money.
This man knows Pep ball.
Nice ChatGPT-style reply.
Thanks for the 1-0 👍
Walker deserves to be in that too (and arguably Ederson)
Not sure what's worse, calling for White over Walker or Zinchenko over Ake. People don't give Ake the credit he deserve, last season he was the best LB in the league, and it wasn't even remotely close. And this is coming from a Chelsea fan.
got done up by Pedro Neto
It’s definitely Walker over White. Zinchenko over Ake is reasonable
@@reythomas9215Ake last season was one of the best defenders in the world, it’s not debatable
It's October 2023, White showed Walker levels yesterday and Zinchenko is a way better footballer than Ake is. Zinchenko is unique for Arsenal and the whole system falls apart when he is not playing. Aka can easily be replaced by another good ball playing centre back, he is a system player.
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Ben white over walker wtf.. He literally pocketed vinicius in previous season. He was solid in important matches.
Steve´s reaction when turkish said zinchenko killed me
When city lose possession, its not like stones stays in the defensive mid position, he drops back to centre back and does the job. He had different roles for attack and defence. Without him, City wouldnt have won the treble.
Arsenal don't bottle the title last year if Saliba didn't get a season-ending injury.
@@Bradclart Stones is class and I really like him but Saliba has been elite. The guys 22 and has not been shown up by anyone, literally put haaland to bed last game
@@ACE360xfartenal smelly logic haha
@@Bradclartsaliba gave you community shield only when stones gives us treble 😂😂
Grealish over Martinelli? We know most City players get into the team but nah lets not do this with Saka and Martinelli😂
Alvarez over Martinelli? Thats fair?
Of course grealish over martinelli. Rice and odegard are fantastic but not better than rodri or de bruyne. Saka is literally the only person who could get in
The trophy dodgers and bottle jobs Saka and Martinelli
Foden gets in for sure or Alvarez
Saka gets in over Bernardo?? Are you joking!!!?
Kyle Walker is the best premier league right back of all time, how’s he not in the team ?
Lauren blood!
@@achisq LOOOL that made me spit out my tea!
Kyle walker should be in this team. But best RB all time 😂😂😂 you're having a laugh mate
Who's better ? @@Nathan-zd8ew
@@Nathan-zd8ewwho’s better? Premier league? Name one….
Saka could be the only player who would start for city from the arsenal's team, apart from him I don't see anyone making the City's 11
That's also debatable especially if he has to compete with Roku and Foden
I'd start Odegaard, Saka, maybe Martinelli. The rest don't get in our first team.
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Odegaard not getting in that Man C team 😂 like based on what?
odegaard, saka and saliba
@@Mercurial.He's deffo walking into man city team, what?
Naa Turkish is wrong for that John stone’s evaluation. That was wild. I expected better from him 😂
I'd have Ake ove Zinny any day of the week cuz your guaranteed a goal from a set piece plus he's a better defender
Plus Saka’s in his pocket 🙂
I’d have Tomiyasu over Zinchenko
Arsenal are lucky to get any players in to the treble winning side. Arsenal did nothing last season
Lucky how? When its individual players, you keep using team comparisons not 1v1 fs lol
@@curtisohara9158 1 Vs 1 I don't see any Arsenal players getting in city's team. Maybe Saka but I think he's overrated
@@AJW2004saliba gets in tbf
@@AJW2004 hes not that overrated if you think he plays for city. Which he does lol if saka is overrated what does that make grealish? Saka is far from overrated what makes him overrated? I bet it's not a good reason
Not over Dias
Ben White over one of the greatest RBs in prem history is wild
I don't know many coaches that would put in Ben White for Walker
He even cant play for England. What a joke. While Kyle is on the EPL all time squad.
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@@thelittlepikachu8241 bro maguire starts for England....doesn't mean his any good 🤦🏾
Arsenal should be grateful they’ve got three players in 😂
Nah its earned
earned what? Bottling the league and going out of every competition? @@curtisohara9158
@@curtisohara9158 Based on what? If silverware is a factor then there shouldn't be ANY 😂
SAYS A MAN CITY KNT WHO SUPPORTS AN ARAB OWND CLB WITH NO FANS
@@JokerDon-qu4df you look emotional mate
Invincibles vs Centurions!
LadBible RUN IT BACK!!
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Ur honest opinion, which is the best PREMIER LEAGUE side between the Invincibles and Centurions
@@ladbiblestoriesand do it with these 3 🙏🏻
@@J1rkaa18 Do not bring Robbie or Ty to defend the invinsibles,
those 2 are the most deluded fans in the Solar System
@TP-pq9xxto go one season unbeaten in the league is impossible. Only the best team in the league had done it and its Arsenal. Besides, they done it without any oil money 😭😭
Put some respect on John stones' name, the man was one of the main reasons why Man City won the treble last year
It doesn’t matter in the prem saliba and Gabriel had a much better impact to the team and to the game
He deserves respect but saliba over stones currently all day
@@Natnael196 more of an impact than helping his team win a treble? Nah stones all day
@@Natnael196your saying impact like they helped arsenal win things 😂 stones was a massive part of citys treble winning side
@@brettflavell win things like community sheild against a certain team you might known them
I’m a Gooner but Steve kills me man said “good season FC” he’s F’ing me up 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Arsenal have had 1 good season lmfao. Don't even think they're better than us right now tbh.
Keep thinking that lol
Deluded
@@curtisohara9158whens the last time you won a ucl/prem?
@@mr-ov5gt what's that got to do with now?🤦🏻♂️🤣🤣
@@curtisohara9158 tinpot club💀
Walker is the greatest RB in prem history
Kyle walker is the best right back in the league, let alone a combined city-arsenal team.
Walker not in that team is one of the most shocking decisions I have ever seen. Ask any attacker or opposing manager who would you rather play against and it’s Ben White all day. Ask any player who would you rather on your team, it’s Kyle Walker
If anyone argues Odegaard ahead of Bernardo, regardless of club bias, their lack of ball knowledge is pretty shameful.
As a Portuguese Arsenal fan having odegaard over Silva is crazy. Imo Silva is your 2nd best overall player and is our best national team player!
So a guy that scored the most goals in open play from midfield, ain’t better? Bernardo doesn’t even start unless KDB is out
@@d.s5508we are talking about better midfielder not better goal scoring midfielder
Facts
Odgard goes missing in big games does few of his little fancy flicks tricks against smaller teams
Saliba not being in that team is laughable.
who doe she get in over?
@@sfb4144he’s better than both city CBs
over STones all day lmao@@sfb4144
@@sfb4144 ask Halaand when he leaves Salibas pocket
@@sfb4144take your pick. Even statistics wise he's been insane. Especially against citeh?
Matisse knows about as much about football as Jimmy Saville knows about keeping his hands to himself
Kalvin Phillips won the treble in his first season. GOAT
This is disgraceful ... disrespectful to City
Happens all the time pure jealousy thats all it is
@@fifty-five6929doesn't matter, Guardiola will win the EPL again
@@madtitan-bringerofgenocide fax
8/11 of a combined XI is disrespectful to City, no wonder there’s no title race lol
Wonder how many Liverpool players get in
@@Duval-In-The-WallGK and Salah
17:17 clipped right there
Saliba's injury was the reason Arsenal fell off the rest of last season. Dias was injured most of last szn as well. Saliba and Stones for me.
City weren’t first in the league cause dias wasn’t there
This is a treble winning Manchester City team. THEY WON THE CHAMPIONS LEAGUE FINAL. Not one single of these arsenal players shine the shoes of these players. What a mess of a combined 11.
arsenal fan chose ben white over walker cause of his performances over the last 12 months, but for the same reason he did not want to include stones?
This is literally going to be “he’s won the treble” for every City player
But they did and they were the best players last year
@@waliyuddintahir1492no, they were the best team
@@trinibaduk9012and the best player
@@footballmagic6683 player or players 🤦🏾♂️
@@trinibaduk9012learn football
When you consider that Ben White got in over Kyle Walker, Alvarez and Foden didn’t get in and city still got 8 of the 11 it is a testament to the quality of our squad against what essentially the second best team of last season. Just look at the blue here 22:13. Treble winners, you’ll never sing that gunners.
Yet we are still the bigger club…. Go on and sing with the 15 fans that support city.
@@Francisco-br4ni keep on telling yourself that, it must be very comforting to your over-inflated ego. I’m too busy enjoying all these trophies whilst watching fantastic football. You do realise your “bigger” club has hired Pep’s apprentice who is trying replicate the great man’s game?
This is my 11
Gk: Ederson
Lb: Ake
Cb: Stones
Cb: Dias
Rb: Walker
Cdm: Rodri
Cm: Ødegaard
Cam: De Bruyne
Lw: Foden
St: Haaland
Rw: Bernardo Silva
What’s with Turkish this season? He’s gotten so much funnier ! Pep must’ve improved him 😂
Turkish has always been pretty funny. It's just that Arsenal are stressing him out of a little less than they used to
Picking anyone over Odegaard is criminal
Turkish said Odergaard is currently having a better season than Foden 😂😂😂
Seems like it's just confirmation bias at play. He only sees what he wants to believe, and everything else is just noise to him. 😂
@@aubrielncube5870aftv delusion
well he is.
@@prod.vin_ explain??
@@UnvaccinatedPureBlood-es1gg Odegaards been way more vital to the arsenal squad than foden for city. Leader, performer (5 G/A), constantly putting pressure, etc. I cant think of one thing fodens better than odegaard at.
Ederson, walker, saliba, Dias, zinchenko, Rodri, de bruyne, odegaard, Saka, Haaland, martinelli
Foden vs saka turkish says “who starts for england”
White vs walker …
Saying walker played about 10 games when he made 39 appearances last season, pocketing Vinicius on the way to a treble, just shows how dumb some of these people you give a platform to can be
And 23 year old fodens maxed out his potential
@@ashwilliams4959 who mentioned foden? And not sure how you’d be able to say that after the start to the season he’s having😭
@n4ht4n80 they were talking about foden early on. The city fan said that cause fodens been around for a couple years were now seeing the best of him.. at 23.. as you said, just shows how stupid these guys are
The fact Kyle walker is the only player can stop vini and still place Ben white ahead of walker is ridiculous
the only correct lineup:
ederson
walker
saliba
dias
gvardiol
rodri
de bryune
odegaard
martinelli
haaland
saka
perfect
Martinelli had loads of pressure “he came from Brazil 2nd tier, low fee” is this guy ok
is that not pressure?
@@prod.vin_ pressure would be coming from Santos for £100 million
So glad it wasn’t Ty you picked for this. He would have picked nketiah over Haaland
People here acting ignorant to the fact that a big reason why Arsenal 'bottled' the league last year was largely down to Saliba's season-ending injury. He'd definitely start for City, along with Saka and Martinelli
Ben white over walker absolute madness ake and walker all day long and John stones and Ruben Dias are the best cb in the league no debate simple
He thought Odegard over silva …… 😢 🤣
Ben white over walker 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Silva is great at controlling games and keeping possession, but like his midfield colleagues (except KDB) he needs a year to make a through pass to Haaland
no matter how obvious the runs are. So at least when KDB is injured, I would be happy to have Ødegaard in stead of Silva in my team.
Edison
Walker
Saliba
Diaz
Ake
Rodri
Odegaard
KDB
Martinelli
Saka
Haaland
Saliba > Stones is a close call
Martinelli > Grealish is a close call
Everything else is a cert (Arsenal fan)
Even arguing about Ødegaard being in there when KDB is already in there is actually ridiculous. He´s clear of any other City Midfielder, he´s there when they need him, he presses as if he´s a striker but is still defensively supportive, he´s technical, vision, skills, goals, assists no way they even argue about that
Lmao he can’t handle the big games , he’s gonna ghost vs us 😂
There when they need him lmaoooo, where was he vs us last year
Odegaard ain’t better than Bernardo silva or foden 😂
Ong
@@sergioobregon91 He was the midfielder with the most goals last season, scored against newcastle or tottenham from distance for example when they couldnt get through as a team. Silva and Foden arent even midfielders. Silva plays right wing and foden left wing so why even bringing them up?
Crazy back line but needs to be a bit of red and blue for content's sake - Defence defo has Walker and Ake in, with Stones pushing into midfield, and central CB is Dias as a nailed-on.
man said grealish wouldn't get into the arsenal team ....tears
He absolutely does.
He does as an 8
Ben White cannot pocket Vinci JR
Please bring back the agree to disagree as well....those were the best
Grealish? You fckin kidding me 😂
People always focus on maguire for England but his pairing with stones is the reason England have done so well recently and I honestly think if you put any other centre back next to maguire it would’ve been the car crash you’d expect, stones brings the best out of maguire. Done it for years for England and always for city to just been masked by injuries. Still top 2 centre backs in the world
Stones is good enough to make up for maguires muppetry. He doesn't bring the best from him, the best for maguires the bench
Factual
@@ashwilliams4959 i agree he shouldn’t be getting called up now but tbf to him he’s not done terrible for England
@n4ht4n80 we've not forgotten his last international break, don't try that 1 😂
BTW I'm 1 of the rare 1s who remember his unbelievable wc.. turning our opening game into a comedy, he's let us down plenty, we just outscored the likes of iran
Saliba is the best Cb in the league RIGHT NOW, I'll die on that hill, bring whatever opinions you got, I got receipts.
.... I'm a M. Utd fan and as the game has gone I don't really think that any of Arsenal's player gets in the team of M. City!
Haaland
Martinelli Saka
Silva KDB
Rodri
Ake Dias Stones Walker
Ederson
This is to make a slightly more combined game. If not all M. City players in!
I’d put foden over martinelli as well
@@CrypticT17and doku instead of saka
Arsenal are so prideful. We all know that Man City's squad clears everyone and no player (especially from Arsenal) gets in. Martinelli doesn't get in over Doku, Foden, Grealish, and Saliba doesn't clear England's best defender.
These arsenal fans are so full of themselves, they overestimate their club way too much than they actually are
Saliba has to be in this team.
Turkish is soooo deluded. Saka because he gets in England team over Foden.... Then talks about Ben White over Walker.... Id have walked out. Hes not taking it seriously.
The disrespect on Bernardo Silva I swear to god 0 ball knowledge , he walks straight in this team are you guys high … better than Saka better than Odegaard he’s better than this whole thing
My boys from The Big 6 on LADbible. Love it
I tried.
You tried bro 😂
Foden hype hahah let big steve win this one, we’ll smoke them come the match later
No u didn't, u were basing ur opinions on whoever plays for arsenal, like an emotional immature primary school kid.
You're so deluded 😭😭
White over Walker and stones as a hyped holding… are you crazy?
Odegaard never dropped off at any point last season. Scored big goals and assisted big goals in London derby and Newcastle away. Foden has popped up with a few goals when his sides winning 3-0 already :/
Big games odegard disappear
The XI is fine but Turkish missed a couple of key arguments imo
Odegaard did turn up even when Arsenal were faltering in the late season
And Saliba was injured for the late season, widely considered the reason why they fell off
Not an Arsenal fan but just some of the points imo
Big Steve - Legend 👑
My GOAT
As an unbiased City fan, I'm sorry, not having any Arsenal player in my team... Not one. Saka doesn't play ahead of Foden/Bernardo. Martineli doesn't get a kick ahead of Jack/Doku. As for the other positions, their players are just not good enough.
Arsenal are lucky to be compared
this was class, what a great show
Grealish is better than martinelli. Price shouldn't be the deciding factor in my opinion
Either should trophies but people do it, Martinelli is better there isn't anything grealish can do that martinelli cant🤷🏻♂️
@@curtisohara9158 why wouldn't trophies?! Grealish is way better than martinelli. If Arsenal had Grealish he'd start ahead of him every week
Martinelli is better than grealish lol
@@AJW2004 because its individual comparison not team comparison, No he wouldn't because like I said Martinelli is better and is better for arsenal, Trossard is technically better too🤷🏻♂️
@@curtisohara9158 players contribute as part of a successful team to win trophies, price is to do with length left on a contract, how many clubs need that type of player at that time etc. To discount trophies is ridiculous when a player has contributed towards a treble. Grealish is better than martinelli and trossard, Arsenal look awful this season despite the results. I think they'll really struggle Sunday. I doubt they'll challenge for the league like last year either. I'm a neutral, I reckon most other neutrals would pick grealish over trossard and martinelli too!
The Win Slander is disgraceful.
Arsenal fans are shameful 💀
Not all. Only the ones that watch AFTV
Man’s out there acting like saliba is prime van dijk, and Ben white is the rb Maldini. Saka is the only one that gets in a combined 11. He’s the only Arsenal player who’s done it for more than a season
Foden has more to his game than Saka 💯
Not GA😂😂😂
@chiefnama790 lol he actually does though. Foden had his worst season last year and was out for months injured, yet still only had 3 less GA than Saka who is supposedly the best winger in the world now, AND that's with Saka on pens! 😂
Least you could've done is look up Foden's stats since you clearly don't catch many City matches🤣 @@chiefnama790
Maybe, but he doesn't show it often enough imo
@@tristanfeinauer he kinda does though, from last season Foden scored or assisted every 115 minutes, Saka scored or assisted every 128 minutes. I really do think people have been thrown off by his injuries last year more than anything.
Dropping Walker because he didn't play a massive part in last season and then not including Odegaard because he's only had 1 good season last year is the most backwards thing ever man
This was tough 😭
🤝
why did you put White over Walker? lol
What the fuck were you smoking though?
Stones is barely a footballer. That system makes him look better than he really is.. He spnt the first 4 seasons not even being in peps plans
Stones a World class Rob Holding 😂😂😂
This was the content we were waiting for😤😘
Bro said Saliba over Stones 'all day' 🤣
ALL day!
Lets saliba when he has motm in ucl final
@@bahjabilan2652 what are you talking about🤣🤣🤣. When did Stones get man of the match in a UCL final?
@@chiefnama790he did, kid.
@@chiefnama790bro u r clueless
This is one of the worst combined 11 I’ve seen so Arsenal bias, White over Walker and Martinelli over Grealish are a joke
I am an Arsenal fan but I'm also objective enough to know that none of our players will probably start on a Manchester City team. Even the backups for City are as good as our starters. For example, they argued one position between Bernado, Foden, and Odegaard. City can play either Silva or Foden without comprosing quality. But Arsenal only have Odegaard and nothing else comparable.
Exactly, I'd say the only player of ours that would have a chance in their first 11 would be Saka
Odegaard or Saka are the only ones I could fully see as part of City and maybe Rice but I don't think Rice would have fit City as fast as Kovacic did.
saliba not in the team ?? LOL… Pep will go all out for saliba if he is on sale
Not 1 of arsenal players get into citys 11
Saka, and saliba and maybe Odegarrd
But ode if KDB is injured
Keep telling urself that
@@BestInTheWorld13x Saka gets in on the right without a question, Saliba can get in and under pep would become 100X better and Ode would get in if KDB is injured
@@BestInTheWorld13xkeep that until you win treble
Here’s how the team should look
Ederson
Walker-Stones-Dias-Ake
KDB-Rodri-Bernardo
Saka(if you’re feeling generous)-Haaland-Grealish
Any Arsenal players being in this debate is a joke
Let`s be honest had everyone been honest, then this combined 11, would have ended up as the Man City starting 11.
Saka, Martinelli, Odegaard and Saliba.
@@chiefnama790 delusional
@@chiefnama790pure delusion mate don’t be silly😂
@@thetruth4654yes you’re definitely delusional, grealish scored 5 goals in all competitions, but he’s better than martinelli who got 15? Stop doing drugs
@thetruth4654 What's that based on? Tell me how INDIVIDUALLY the players you think are better than these players are better?
Otherwise, you're just waffling.
Lets build the team with purely Man City players (in a 4-2-3-1) and see how many Arsenal players can step in:
GK: Ederson
RB: Walker
RCB: Stones
LCB: Dias
LB: Gvardiol
RCM: Rodri
LCM: Kevin de Bruyne
RW: Silva
CAM: Alvarez
LW: Foden
FW: Haaland
Unfortunately, the only position that is open to debate right now is the Left Back
Saliba has done well in his one season with Arsenal but he has not shown to match the consistency and capabilities of Stones over multiple seasons
Rodri > Rice, plus I feel that Rice would be better as a CM, not a CDM
You ain't dropping KdB or Haaland
Alvarez (World Cup winner + Treble winner) > Odegaard
Foden > Saka: Treble Winner (yes, I am going there again), plus he has had to play himself into the first team against fierce competition from the likes of Grealish, Mahrez, etc. Saka doesn't really have competition at Arsenal on the right wing
Silva > Martinelli
If it were my favoured 3-4-1-2:
GK: Ederson
RCB: Saliba
CB: Stones
LCB: Dias
RCM: Rodri
LCM: Rice
RW: Silva
CAM: Kevin de Bruyne
LW: Foden
RF: Alvarez
LF: Haaland
Treble VS Trophyless
City won every game against Arsenal
Questionable if any Arsenal player even gets on City bench 😂
JOHN IS A WORLD CLASS ROB HOLDING 🤣🤣🤣that brutal
Wow I thought Turkish was one of the somewhat 'sensible' and less delusional Arsenal fans 😂😂 I stand corrected
Edit: While Chelsea were an oil club by definition (Roman's reign) Chelsea won more trophies than City and won everything there is to win in club football, something City are yet to do.
Its lad bible hes been told to be controversial
Let me guess ur one of the uneducated rival/Chelsea fans that think vhelsea is bigger than Arsenal. Yet u have the nerve to say u stand corrected abt Turkish bcuz his logic is more logical than urs 💀
Mate Chelsea are a disgrace of a club.
Tbf he wasn't that bad. His comment about Stones was outrageous but he was fairly sensible. I imagine he was told to be controversial too
Picture with the dog and the shield 🤣🤣 got me