damn it you guys are right, Eastgate won the main. My bad. New tournament course on Upswing Poker is coming out tomorrow (May 8th), sneak peek here: upswingpoker.com/sneak-peek-road-to-victory-tournament-course/
Dwan knew exactly what everyone had. In fact, he literally told everyone what they had. It was straight out of Rounders, one of Dwans best moments and one of the reasons he became a legend shortly there after.
There is actually a video of Dwan analyzing this hand a couple years later and he essentially said he knew exactly where he was at and even had seen a couple examples previously where Eastgate had folded in similar situations. Definitely not blind aggression, an insane play to say the least.
Thanks for covering this Doug! Truly an awesome hand. There's also a super badass moment after the hand when Eli says 'Barry folded the best hand' and Daniel goes 'Duuuhhh!', then Dwan points at Eastgate and says 'he folded the best hand'. Tom was just one step ahead of everyone!
the way that hand go, it is clearly that eastgate have a 2.. if eastgate is in the last position to call, eastgate would have won that hand.. its just hard for him to call knowing that barry is still behind him..
@@MD-jf1ml no way on 6 way pot Berry betting 10K and Dwan re-raising to 37K, there is no way he is calling with 8,8 9,9 or J,J with Berry still to act. I think it is the game of Dwan, he is hard to read and he showed so much strength it felt like he had A,2 as well.
I love this hand, it's Dwan at his finest. High risk, high reward - he knew where he was in the hand, sussed the situation out correctly, and applied maximum pressure.
@@fanfan7848 There is no way Tom thought he had the best hand. He blocked one of the best possible hands (pocket 10s), although there was also the very slim possibility of pocket dueces. 1 combo of 2s, 1 combo of 10s (because Tom blocks 1 of the 10s). Greenstein in early position is likely on a high pair, and then Eastgate realistically has to have a 2. If Eastgate had like A2, then Tom's play likely fails.
Yeah durrrr was just too sangfroid and it came back to bite him. That was back when everyone was calling with those hands lol. Did Sean starting doing a lot of blow? Or does he look super strung out because of all the stress poker brings? Idk
For Tom Dwan's action on the flop, Doug's thought: "You need to play extremely tight." [7:30] But has that sentence ever been in Dwan's poker vocabulary?
@@DogbiteW The great thing is we can all find magical lines from time to time. This one was just so monumental for displaying what is even humanly possible to pull off.
@@erikperez8774 We can also say the play has evolved, because in today's games, this same line would get called, by either Eastgate or Greenstein, 80 percent of the time.
One of the greatest bluffs of all time. Tom knew exactly what he was doing he'd never bet turn with Q10 for value given that Eastgate called and Greensteins hand is face up
@@88mphDrBrown Eastgate came fresh of his wsop win, playing his first cash games. It was pretty clear he was only playing made hands and was targeted for those reasons.
After the hand someone says Barry folded the best hand. Dwan says no eastgate had the best hand!! Dwan new exactly where he was at and what he was doing
Ya but it's kind of obvious when he insta checks the flop and cold calls a reraise in a 7 way pot in the small blind with all dueces in his range. The hard muck at the end was further evidence of a weak kicker folding.
Love your pause after saying "You've might have already watched this episode" aka "Why am I breaking it down". Dude, keep breaking these down, love the insight, and even if I don't agree or get it, I appreciate getting me to look at it a different way, and elevating my game. Keep it up!
@@Qaeter Insane in other manner . They both was very strong and knew each others play so well that his 3 barrel air bluff could be get called very light .
The best player i ever knew had a saying, " the KEY to poker is aggression, the SECRET to poker is folding ", i don't know how true it is but i never forgot it!
I watched this for the vibe that was present in the High Stakes Poker show back in those days when I was 14 and when players from whole world were able to play in the same player pools in the top online poker rooms too, and I get the same feeling as back then. I wish my brother wakes me up right now and says bro wake up it's 2007 :D
Peter Eastgate won the WSOP main event the year this was broadcasted. Not second as Doug said. He also moved from his home country to England between July and Nov 9 to smartly dodge taxes. Got sued by his country and won.
You know Tom Dwan gave an analysis of his thoughts at the time in an old video right? He literally explains that he thought Peter had a weak 2 and Barry had an overpair, and he figured he could get it through because the pot started 8 handed.
cant wait for the Dwan v Ivey hand, you know at this point that it's coming, I'd also like to see Doug ponder the hand between Antonius and Laak bluff :D
13:04 @DougPolkPoker what do you mean “what else can Eastgate have worse than a deuce” Wouldn’t A10s be a call on SB? Or 33, 44, 55. If my question is completely stupid let me know, I’m fairly knew to studying poker
There is also the fact Dwan blocks pocket 10s and the that if he put Barry on an over pair like AA/KK/QQ Barry hard blocks hands like A2/K2/Q2s and Dwan also has a Q which is another blocker to Q2s.
If you think about it, Tom Dwan was representing pocket 10s only. No hand with a deuce in it makes sense to just call first in pot after greenstein raise with many players behind to potentially squeeze.
I’ve said it before but this was such a terrible hand by both Eastgate and Greenstein. There’s no reason for Eastgate to think he’s losing to Dwan here. If Dwan had 10-10 or even 7-7, he would never play it that way. And Greenstein was gifted the pot when Eastgate folded and still screwed it up. What could Dwan have? Sure, he could have a deuce. But it’s such a small possibility, maybe a 1/7 chance at worst. I mean, I can see if Greenstein has JJ or QQ, then it’s a tougher call. But AA is winning against Dwan there at least 9 times out of 10.
I agree. They are playing on scared money in a way. Barry is notoriously tight, and Eastgate is a nit who plays his stack like a tournament buy-in. Dwan prob realized this, giving him incentive to attempt a bluff. If one of the other players called, he might not make the same bluff. I'm sure not even a solver advises folding 42 or AA there. At least not on the turn...
Doug owes Eastgate an apology. He never wants to recognize him as the main event champion. He’s such a huge bully always belittling people. Anytime someone is competition to his brand he unfairly spins them in a negative light 💡
Doug an idea for one of your streams is to only have old-school high stakes poker pros at the table as it would be great fun seeing them play now as opposed to then.
Doug, big fan, love the videos keep them coming. However in this hand I have to disagree with your analysis. Yes, 100% Dwan made a great play due to his knowledge of Eastgate and Greenstein. And maybe it’s not your analysis that is off but Eastgates play. I mean if you’re going to call preflop with 2/4, what flops are you hoping for that is much better than this one, sure 2/2/2 or 4/4/4 or 4/4/2 and so on but 2/2/10 is pretty amazing for his hand. So if Eastgate calls preflop, and then calls Dwan’s $37,000 raise, I think he has to go with it. Otherwise he should have folded preflop or on the flop. The odds Dwan was ahead was pretty slim, and I know it is easy to say, since I can see all the hands but if I were Eastgate or say it was Negranu or Antonio Esfondiari or even Eli Elezra I think they call Dwan down or even raise him on the turn. Eric Pearson would, so would Bill Perkins and I imagine you Doug Polk would as well. So I guess my point is Dwan outplayed them but Eastgate was weak, again why call pre with 2/4 if you’re going to fold trip 2s?
@@danielmahusky5780 I remember that hand, they were playing with bundles of cash, that was back when Brad had money, I am in Canada near Toronto and 20 years ago played in some underground games with Brad, he is a good guy, online poker is what got him and many other good live cash players
I don't care what people say about dwan. I still love that guy "You all want to chop" . Under 30s don't realize how insane this guys poker face seemed in 2000s when he hit the scene. He was a legend
I think this is a lesson of not buying in too deep, when you're playing out of your comfort zone, and especially when you're playing at a table of world class players. Had Eastgate only had 100K on the table from the start of the hand, he would probably have won it.
He posted about it on 2+2. His flop bet sizing was standard at the time, so there wasn't much question there. His flop call was pretty awful, and the only justification he could give was "Maybe I'll hit an Ace." . Otherwise it came down to a soul read on Dwan, and he just couldn't bring himself to think the kid could be making that kind of move. He said he hadn't considered that maybe Dwan was spazzing with a T because it would block TT, which would be the only justification for a calldown.
Dwan has a tell. If he raises and the amount after the comma is below 500, his hand is weak. His first raise was $37,300. ,300 is below 500, shows weakness. He’ll have something, but not the nuts. Second raise: $104,200. Same thing. ,200 below 500. He’s always done this.
'from a few years ago, er, more like a decade ago' Me, every time I reference a memory, then realize I'm old as fuck and what I'm talking about is ancient history.
Spoke to Barry G once at a card room in LA during a questions and answer format with the pro's (Barry and Moneymaker), where I specifically asked Barry about playing "high stakes cash games". He responded to me by saying that this HSP series was basically an "info-mercial !" I'm assuming that mean these players were NOT playing for their own real cash, but rather all the cast members (players) were paid a fix amount??! Anyway, that's what I know, even though I assumed, like most anyone, that this was real cash from ea player on the table, unlike what we see on Live at Bike / Hustler. Could be wrong, but I don't think so. Only other option is that they might have played for some sort of tournament payout structure for whoever ended up with biggest win, down to biggest loser. Again. I'm saying this from what Barry said during the questioning I posed after brief questioning. Anyone ever talk to any of these guys might ask em on this, if curious
This is depressing because i would never have folded either the 2 or the AA, i know it would have worked out this time but hearing doug say what a bad play it is makes me realize how bad at this game i am despite being playing for so long ! I know im way too sticky and im working on it but i wouldnt have even contemplated folding the 2
you would be right in not folding the 2. If you watch some calls Doug has made in high stakes pokergo games recently, you would realize Doug does not follow his own advice and he lost a bundle. Also, IF Tom had a 2, and there were still 6 players left to act behind him, WHY would he raise that 2, to get those players OUT???? He wouldn't. He would check that 2, hoping someone behind him would bet. No one should think Tom had a 2
@@credittrickscredithacks Yeah well what you say makes sence to me because im bad at the game, but im sure you agree doug is better than both of us, also i wouldnt consider his play at the lodge too serious, i think he is joking around a lot there and just being spewy and kind of bad to get the game rolling a bit, to him its like micro micro stakes, its like me playing for 10c, of course im gonna not play serious when its pennies ! But thankyou, its nice of you to try and make me feel better about my play !
@CreditTricksCreditHacks No you would check that 2. Tom would not because he balances his bluffing range. Also trip deuces is still vulnerable 8 ways.
I would however argue that it’s hard for both eastgate and greenstein to fold here specifically because dwan was a new wave of aggro player that publicized his success on big bets in awkward situations. Dwan could only play ax suited to win. Barry and east gate block most hands. Dwan knows both players value bet their big hands if he checks. It’s a 90% bluff based on his history.
This is why I just love Tom Dwan. He can literally drool in a bluff and still his dead doll pokerface psychs them out. God i love him. So hot. sosoohot
1) Peter Eastgate won the 2008 Main Event, Ivan Demidov was the runner up (the first November 9). 2) “Because you have the Ace of clubs you don’t block Ace Deuce of clubs” 🤔
I disagree with him saying he should muck 2 4. 2500 to see a flop with at least 17,500 in the middle. I call with anything. He probably also knew that Doyle was coming in behind him to make the pot 20k. Gotta call.
What makes me laugh is that when this hand initially appeared on youtube, most of the online regs of low/midstakes in the comment section back then thought Peter's fold was atrocious.. when in reality it's even quite debatable wether the flop call is ok. Granted it's not common to have 8-ways online and they would have needed a brain to realize that it's not the same as a hu pot (and as we know most midstakes regs don't really have that).
Was calling Eastgate "runner up" a dig? Meaning he is a bad poker player and the real winner should be 2nd place finisher Ivan Demidov? Didnt you learn anything Doug?! I'll be looking forward to the apology soon. Thanks
![THE BIGGEST POT OF MY LIFE [Hustler Million Dollar Poker Game]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/kX3eqK5LQu4/mqdefault.jpg)
damn it you guys are right, Eastgate won the main. My bad.
New tournament course on Upswing Poker is coming out tomorrow (May 8th), sneak peek here: upswingpoker.com/sneak-peek-road-to-victory-tournament-course/
Cheers m8
There goes Doug slandering another member of the inner circle. Couldn’t take a single weekend off huh?
@@mylespappadato3166 Target practice.
@Doug Polk Poker I hope you considered everyone's feelings before making this video 🤣
Doug you need to make a video apologizing for this immediately! Not cool!
Dwan knew exactly what everyone had. In fact, he literally told everyone what they had. It was straight out of Rounders, one of Dwans best moments and one of the reasons he became a legend shortly there after.
True.
Dwan was very sharp back then. Still think the flop was a mistake, but he brilliantly played his way out of the spot, as Gabe said
There is actually a video of Dwan analyzing this hand a couple years later and he essentially said he knew exactly where he was at and even had seen a couple examples previously where Eastgate had folded in similar situations. Definitely not blind aggression, an insane play to say the least.
And i thought Dwan was a bad player, how wrong i was !
Some would argue this is the greatest bluff of all time. Including me
You can tell by his reaction to Barry folding he is well aware of what just happened.
Yeah tom even said right after the hand that Peter had the best hand if doug would have let the clip play a bit longer
@@charliec4166 Nah he explained a crazy looking 72 bluff once.
Thanks for covering this Doug! Truly an awesome hand. There's also a super badass moment after the hand when Eli says 'Barry folded the best hand' and Daniel goes 'Duuuhhh!', then Dwan points at Eastgate and says 'he folded the best hand'. Tom was just one step ahead of everyone!
Wow, that is so amazing.
But anyone with any poker skills at all should know that Eastgate had a 2. It’s not that crazy of a read
the way that hand go, it is clearly that eastgate have a 2.. if eastgate is in the last position to call, eastgate would have won that hand.. its just hard for him to call knowing that barry is still behind him..
Couldn’t he make that call with 88, 99, or JJ as well?
@@MD-jf1ml no way on 6 way pot Berry betting 10K and Dwan re-raising to 37K, there is no way he is calling with 8,8 9,9 or J,J with Berry still to act. I think it is the game of Dwan, he is hard to read and he showed so much strength it felt like he had A,2 as well.
Aw, you left out Dwan's line: He had the deuce. (callin' the trips that Eastgate had) What a moment!
Nothing else eastgate flats a raise with
@@benji9645pocket tens would play the way eastgate did but tom dwan had the tens blocker
Limping 10s? Lol
"I had it" with a devious smile 😂😂
did you make sure to consider dwans feelings first?
😂
😮
😂
😂😂
😁
You should have let the tape go another 20 seconds or so when Dwan declared "HE had the best hand" (pointing at Eastgate).
That's not in Doug's poker language, putting someone on a specific hand.
yeah it showed he knew exactly where he was at
@@SmartDumbNerdyCool Also not in Dwan's either, apparently, since he thought he was winning.
I love this hand, it's Dwan at his finest. High risk, high reward - he knew where he was in the hand, sussed the situation out correctly, and applied maximum pressure.
He thought he had the best hand
@@fanfan7848 Thanks for your expert input. That has to be one of the dumbest poker related comments I've ever read.
@@pierrearr i'm not an expert
@@fanfan7848 There is no way Tom thought he had the best hand. He blocked one of the best possible hands (pocket 10s), although there was also the very slim possibility of pocket dueces. 1 combo of 2s, 1 combo of 10s (because Tom blocks 1 of the 10s).
Greenstein in early position is likely on a high pair, and then Eastgate realistically has to have a 2. If Eastgate had like A2, then Tom's play likely fails.
@@iamamish top pair is a good hand
Young Dwan was unstoppable
he really did just own people.....but its hard to keep that up forever
Except when he ran into that Jungleman brick wall
Until people adapted.
Yeah durrrr was just too sangfroid and it came back to bite him. That was back when everyone was calling with those hands lol.
Did Sean starting doing a lot of blow? Or does he look super strung out because of all the stress poker brings? Idk
Dwan was Ahead of the curve back then
For Tom Dwan's action on the flop, Doug's thought: "You need to play extremely tight." [7:30] But has that sentence ever been in Dwan's poker vocabulary?
Favorite hand ever. This made me want to play poker for life.
Lol, this too, is one of my all time favorite hands. It really is unbelievable.
This hand made me give up Hold Em forever because I'm just not that sharp.
@@DogbiteW The great thing is we can all find magical lines from time to time. This one was just so monumental for displaying what is even humanly possible to pull off.
@@erikperez8774 We can also say the play has evolved, because in today's games, this same line would get called, by either Eastgate or Greenstein, 80 percent of the time.
@@drdefx I think the opposite. People are more likely to fold in multiway pots, because people realize they should play tighter in spots like this.
One of the greatest bluffs of all time. Tom knew exactly what he was doing he'd never bet turn with Q10 for value given that Eastgate called and Greensteins hand is face up
@@88mphDrBrown Pretty obvious what both players have by the turn
Obviously he was bluffing. The question is was Dwan being Dwan and just randomly clicking buttons or not.
@@Lumerlume11 it's bluff or value bet there's no other option silly
@@88mphDrBrown Eastgate came fresh of his wsop win, playing his first cash games. It was pretty clear he was only playing made hands and was targeted for those reasons.
How is Greensteins hand faceup? If he was any good he never gets to the turn with less than trips
Much Love Doug. Thanks for continuing to post content and not letting the haters get you too down.
After the hand someone says Barry folded the best hand. Dwan says no eastgate had the best hand!! Dwan new exactly where he was at and what he was doing
Ya but it's kind of obvious when he insta checks the flop and cold calls a reraise in a 7 way pot in the small blind with all dueces in his range. The hard muck at the end was further evidence of a weak kicker folding.
I'm amazed Doug didn't include the clip where Dwan says Eastgate had the best hand. That was the best part!
it was very very obvious lol
@@SPQR_14 he doesn’t like dwan!
Name a hand that Eastgate coldcalls that is NOT trips+
How could u edit the moment when Tom says “he has the best hand” and point at Peter 😢
What a talent and ahead of his time Tom was
That's not in Doug's poker language, putting someone on a specific hand.
Love your pause after saying "You've might have already watched this episode" aka "Why am I breaking it down". Dude, keep breaking these down, love the insight, and even if I don't agree or get it, I appreciate getting me to look at it a different way, and elevating my game. Keep it up!
In microstakes it's a snap 3 ways all in 😂
I would say it would be that way for 5/10 live.
Yeah against some random guy online he isn’t folding for shit.
He could know he was beat and still call. Ppl just want you to flip over your cards, to show them they are beat.
This was absolutely most epic blufff ive ever seen in my life. Dwan is a genius at his craft
I Agree right up there with the Brad Booth/Phil Ivey hand also on original HSP
Granted it's heads up but a must see if you never have
Dwan vs Ivey 98s vs A6 was even more insane
@@Qaeter Insane in other manner . They both was very strong and knew each others play so well that his 3 barrel air bluff could be get called very light .
😂
The best player i ever knew had a saying, " the KEY to poker is aggression, the SECRET to poker is folding ", i don't know how true it is but i never forgot it!
Sounds like some of the bs qoutes girls post on their insta
I watched this for the vibe that was present in the High Stakes Poker show back in those days when I was 14 and when players from whole world were able to play in the same player pools in the top online poker rooms too, and I get the same feeling as back then. I wish my brother wakes me up right now and says bro wake up it's 2007 :D
Left out the best part when Tom says "Peter had the best hand"
Tom hit puberty on the "I had it😂"
Peter Eastgate won the WSOP main event the year this was broadcasted. Not second as Doug said. He also moved from his home country to England between July and Nov 9 to smartly dodge taxes. Got sued by his country and won.
Wow!
At the end of the hand Dwan made a 2k sidebet with Doyle that Peter had the best hand. Greenstein's call still baffles me.
The poker hand analysis is always great
The dirty “ i had it “ at the end lol
You know Tom Dwan gave an analysis of his thoughts at the time in an old video right? He literally explains that he thought Peter had a weak 2 and Barry had an overpair, and he figured he could get it through because the pot started 8 handed.
This hand as well as Doug's attempted bluff vs Antonius years back are two of my favorite cash game hands
Where can I find this hand?
th-cam.com/video/NfpQXH_3gPQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=WKHoJiX324V7NtP7@@CanariasCanariass
you just reminded me how much i really enjoyed watching tom dwan play poker
cant wait for the Dwan v Ivey hand, you know at this point that it's coming, I'd also like to see Doug ponder the hand between Antonius and Laak bluff :D
"Big bang-hes got the whole gang" Lol Gabe
Greenstein always has aces
13:04 @DougPolkPoker what do you mean “what else can Eastgate have worse than a deuce” Wouldn’t A10s be a call on SB? Or 33, 44, 55. If my question is completely stupid let me know, I’m fairly knew to studying poker
There is also the fact Dwan blocks pocket 10s and the that if he put Barry on an over pair like AA/KK/QQ Barry hard blocks hands like A2/K2/Q2s and Dwan also has a Q which is another blocker to Q2s.
blockers are overrated...
The golden age of high stakes. I was so hyped to see ziggy finally
If you think about it, Tom Dwan was representing pocket 10s only. No hand with a deuce in it makes sense to just call first in pot after greenstein raise with many players behind to potentially squeeze.
he was likely to just call with full house instead of raising
i agree. barry gave him credit for 10's
This hand and hand analysis was great!
15:48 - "I had it..." That alone shows you a lot about his discipline and game plan
If you’re calling with 42 off and then you FOLD when catching trips you should just fold pre
Imagine saying all the notable people at the table and not mentioning the legend of poker, Doyle.
I’ve said it before but this was such a terrible hand by both Eastgate and Greenstein. There’s no reason for Eastgate to think he’s losing to Dwan here. If Dwan had 10-10 or even 7-7, he would never play it that way.
And Greenstein was gifted the pot when Eastgate folded and still screwed it up. What could Dwan have? Sure, he could have a deuce. But it’s such a small possibility, maybe a 1/7 chance at worst. I mean, I can see if Greenstein has JJ or QQ, then it’s a tougher call. But AA is winning against Dwan there at least 9 times out of 10.
I agree. They are playing on scared money in a way. Barry is notoriously tight, and Eastgate is a nit who plays his stack like a tournament buy-in. Dwan prob realized this, giving him incentive to attempt a bluff. If one of the other players called, he might not make the same bluff. I'm sure not even a solver advises folding 42 or AA there. At least not on the turn...
@@SmartDumbNerdyCoolsolvers are worth it and good? I never used one...
u shoulda added the part where dwan says peter had the best hand after that hand is over. goes with the title
Ive seen dwan talk about this hand and he was like yea, i can get barry to fold aces, no problem
Doug owes Eastgate an apology. He never wants to recognize him as the main event champion. He’s such a huge bully always belittling people. Anytime someone is competition to his brand he unfairly spins them in a negative light 💡
Doug can't help it. He is driven to emotionally hurt people.
@@RangeWilson I’m being sarcastic and trolling as you guessed but I think we are all surprised Doug got his fact wrong here. He’s usually spot on
one of the best hands iv ever seen played
Doug an idea for one of your streams is to only have old-school high stakes poker pros at the table as it would be great fun seeing them play now as opposed to then.
Tom wins the prop bet that Peter had a 2. Tom knew everything
this hand is amazing. thanks for reviewing it, Doug.
What year was this?
Love the content man thanks ❤.
Galfond really doesn't wanna go after anyone but saying Barry should've folded was bullying and that makes you a BAD person.
Dwan looks possessed, staring off into infinity.. its weird
Doug acknowledging Negreanu on a Poker Hands video is the last thing I thought I'd ever see
They are friends now.
This is my favorite hand of all time ..
Doug, big fan, love the videos keep them coming. However in this hand I have to disagree with your analysis.
Yes, 100% Dwan made a great play due to his knowledge of Eastgate and Greenstein. And maybe it’s not your analysis that is off but Eastgates play.
I mean if you’re going to call preflop with 2/4, what flops are you hoping for that is much better than this one, sure 2/2/2 or 4/4/4 or 4/4/2 and so on but 2/2/10 is pretty amazing for his hand.
So if Eastgate calls preflop, and then calls Dwan’s $37,000 raise, I think he has to go with it. Otherwise he should have folded preflop or on the flop. The odds Dwan was ahead was pretty slim, and I know it is easy to say, since I can see all the hands but if I were Eastgate or say it was Negranu or Antonio Esfondiari or even Eli Elezra I think they call Dwan down or even raise him on the turn. Eric Pearson would, so would Bill Perkins and I imagine you Doug Polk would as well.
So I guess my point is Dwan outplayed them but Eastgate was weak, again why call pre with 2/4 if you’re going to fold trip 2s?
This is the hand that taught me the concept of bluffing with a made hand (like top pair Q kicker)
Dwan made one of if not THE BEST MOVE EVER. COMPLETE GENIUS
I'd put it up there with the brad booth/Ivey hand where Brad got Ivey to lay down KK
@@danielmahusky5780 I remember that hand, they were playing with bundles of cash, that was back when Brad had money, I am in Canada near Toronto and 20 years ago played in some underground games with Brad, he is a good guy, online poker is what got him and many other good live cash players
Eastgate definitely won the 2008 Main Event. I believe Ivan Demidov finished 2nd.
I don't care what people say about dwan. I still love that guy
"You all want to chop" . Under 30s don't realize how insane this guys poker face seemed in 2000s when he hit the scene. He was a legend
The hand that defined Peter Eastgate's career. No balls.
You mean "discipline"? :P. It's a good fold (most likely solver approved if you somehow manage to run it on an 8-handed flop).
lol it'd be terrible for Tom to play TT this way. And Tom got lucky Eastgate didn't have 7/2.
“I had it” 😂😂😂😂😂
Appreciate the 2023 analysis. Thanks Doug!
the brilliant part was making eastgate fold despite know the strenghth of his hand
I think this is a lesson of not buying in too deep, when you're playing out of your comfort zone, and especially when you're playing at a table of world class players.
Had Eastgate only had 100K on the table from the start of the hand, he would probably have won it.
Did Greestein ever give an analysis of this hand? Love to hear that.
He posted about it on 2+2. His flop bet sizing was standard at the time, so there wasn't much question there. His flop call was pretty awful, and the only justification he could give was "Maybe I'll hit an Ace." . Otherwise it came down to a soul read on Dwan, and he just couldn't bring himself to think the kid could be making that kind of move. He said he hadn't considered that maybe Dwan was spazzing with a T because it would block TT, which would be the only justification for a calldown.
@@RangeWilson Thanks for his recap.
Dwan has a tell. If he raises and the amount after the comma is below 500, his hand is weak. His first raise was $37,300. ,300 is below 500, shows weakness. He’ll have something, but not the nuts.
Second raise: $104,200. Same thing. ,200 below 500.
He’s always done this.
Tom Dwan is the scariest poker player out there, imo.
Should of let the whole clip play . Tom knew peter had a deuce and even made a bet with doyle that peter had a deuce
'from a few years ago, er, more like a decade ago' Me, every time I reference a memory, then realize I'm old as fuck and what I'm talking about is ancient history.
Great breakdown, solid. 👍
For a couple minutes dwan was the best player in the world
I could swear I saw you analyse this hand before.
Nontheless, thanks for the video.
Most entertaining poker for sure I loved that series!
Its a good bluff because with that many people its super underbluffed. But you can also run into it a lot.
Spoke to Barry G once at a card room in LA during a questions and answer format with the pro's (Barry and Moneymaker), where I specifically asked Barry about playing "high stakes cash games". He responded to me by saying that this HSP series was basically an "info-mercial !" I'm assuming that mean these players were NOT playing for their own real cash, but rather all the cast members (players) were paid a fix amount??! Anyway, that's what I know, even though I assumed, like most anyone, that this was real cash from ea player on the table, unlike what we see on Live at Bike / Hustler. Could be wrong, but I don't think so. Only other option is that they might have played for some sort of tournament payout structure for whoever ended up with biggest win, down to biggest loser. Again. I'm saying this from what Barry said during the questioning I posed after brief questioning. Anyone ever talk to any of these guys might ask em on this, if curious
This is depressing because i would never have folded either the 2 or the AA, i know it would have worked out this time but hearing doug say what a bad play it is makes me realize how bad at this game i am despite being playing for so long ! I know im way too sticky and im working on it but i wouldnt have even contemplated folding the 2
you would be right in not folding the 2. If you watch some calls Doug has made in high stakes pokergo games recently, you would realize Doug does not follow his own advice and he lost a bundle. Also, IF Tom had a 2, and there were still 6 players left to act behind him, WHY would he raise that 2, to get those players OUT???? He wouldn't. He would check that 2, hoping someone behind him would bet. No one should think Tom had a 2
@@credittrickscredithacks Yeah well what you say makes sence to me because im bad at the game, but im sure you agree doug is better than both of us, also i wouldnt consider his play at the lodge too serious, i think he is joking around a lot there and just being spewy and kind of bad to get the game rolling a bit, to him its like micro micro stakes, its like me playing for 10c, of course im gonna not play serious when its pennies ! But thankyou, its nice of you to try and make me feel better about my play !
About 1/3 the deck was distributed towards live hands.
@CreditTricksCreditHacks No you would check that 2. Tom would not because he balances his bluffing range. Also trip deuces is still vulnerable 8 ways.
maybe you would check a deuce. dwan wouldn't.
Not happy with Dwan’s bets? How does that make any sense?
one of my favorite hands for sure
The play is so bad that it worked in his favor.
I really believe that he was being put on a 10-2 hand...Doyle being there
Doyle should've rebluffed Dwan repping 10 2
I would however argue that it’s hard for both eastgate and greenstein to fold here specifically because dwan was a new wave of aggro player that publicized his success on big bets in awkward situations. Dwan could only play ax suited to win. Barry and east gate block most hands. Dwan knows both players value bet their big hands if he checks. It’s a 90% bluff based on his history.
This is why I just love Tom Dwan.
He can literally drool in a bluff and still his dead doll pokerface psychs them out.
God i love him. So hot. sosoohot
Favorite hand of all time
1) Peter Eastgate won the 2008 Main Event, Ivan Demidov was the runner up (the first November 9).
2) “Because you have the Ace of clubs you don’t block Ace Deuce of clubs” 🤔
We need Tom at the Lodge!
I disagree with him saying he should muck 2 4. 2500 to see a flop with at least 17,500 in the middle. I call with anything. He probably also knew that Doyle was coming in behind him to make the pot 20k. Gotta call.
I had it! Lol Barry greenstein probably still has nightmares about Tom dwan
8:16 "burrgardless"
Well played Doug
What makes me laugh is that when this hand initially appeared on youtube, most of the online regs of low/midstakes in the comment section back then thought Peter's fold was atrocious.. when in reality it's even quite debatable wether the flop call is ok. Granted it's not common to have 8-ways online and they would have needed a brain to realize that it's not the same as a hu pot (and as we know most midstakes regs don't really have that).
You vs Charlie carrol heads up! Is it happening and what he has said in his video, is that true?
Doug keep doing your thing..screw all the haters with their attempted cancel culture nonsense !
Is this a re-upload? I think, for my poker feed, I am mainly following you only and this hand looks very familiar.
You're a good man Doug. Its easy to become jaded and sidetracked, most do, you never did.
Be you.
Was calling Eastgate "runner up" a dig? Meaning he is a bad poker player and the real winner should be 2nd place finisher Ivan Demidov? Didnt you learn anything Doug?! I'll be looking forward to the apology soon. Thanks
This hand is actually preposterous. The perfect storm of factors. Nobody else at the table is folding that hand except Eastgate.
Is it 2017 again?
Bro… what a lineup!!!🔥🔥🔥
Doug fumbles over his words too much lately the last like minute and half is just brutal to listen to