🎹Casio PX-S1000 vs PX-S3000 Digital Piano Comparison - Casio Privia Series🎹
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Hello and welcome to the Merriam Pianos TH-cam channel. In this video, we’ll be doing an important comparison that frankly, we should have done already! We’ll be doing a detailed breakdown of how the Casio PX-S1000 compares with the more expensive PX-S3000.
We’ll be pointing out where they’re similar and where they diverge. If you’ve been trying to decide between the two yourself, this video should be helpful.
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Piano Overview
Similarities
For everything different between these two instruments, there are some things that are the same, which is probably why they’re so close in weight. One of Casio’s main talking points for both instruments is that they are some of, if not the slimmest, most lightweight digital pianos around.
For starters, the speaker systems are identical between these two instruments - two 8 watt speakers configured the same. They also both offer 192 notes of polyphony and the same core sound processing. They also have the exact same action.
Differences
The differences between these two pianos largely come down to the functionality and sheer sound selection. That said, if you were looking at either of these to primarily use as a piano, the PX-S1000 is a very compelling choice for the price point.
Piano Sound
Interestingly, despite the specs lining up in terms of the sound engine and speakers, after playing the two instruments side-by-side, it’s clear that they don’t sound exactly the same. The PX-S3000 actually sounds fuller, perhaps due to some undisclosed enhanced signal processing or differences in speaker quality.
The interface of the PX-S1000 is an area that’s definitely lacking, as navigating the various sounds has quite a steep learning curve. Luckily, everything can be controlled via Casio’s Chordana Play App, which you can run on a smart device and connect to the instrument through USB (no Bluetooth MIDI.) There are 17 on-board sounds, along with other sound related features like layer and split.
Piano Action
Both of these pianos have the same action, Casio’s Smart Scaled Hammer Action Keyboard. Given the slim cabinets of both pianos, this action has a more compressed, different geometry than what you’ll see on other digital pianos.
This particular action is very usable, and while probably not the best in the price point, is still satisfying overall. The texture on the black keys feels a bit off, but the texture on the white keys is great. It’s on the lighter side, quite similar in weight to Kawai’s Responsive Hammer Compact found in the ES110.
The repetition speed leaves us a bit wanting, but given that the target audience for these pianos isn’t a high-level classical player, this shouldn’t matter.
Piano Features
The two big feature sets that make the PX-S3000 stand out over the PX-S1000 are the rhythm/auto accompaniment feature, as well as the inclusion of a pitch bend wheel and control knobs. The pitch bend wheel and extra control surfaces are absolutely crucial in making the 3000 a viable professional stage option. These features are super easy to use, so definitely check out the features section in the video as Stu gives us a walkthrough.
Both instruments come standard with a basic switch pedal, but a better sustain pedal or floating triple pedal are optional add-on accessories, as well as matching designer stands.
Conclusions
When seeing all of the extra features on the PX-S3000, it’s quite surprising it only costs $200 more. If you’re only focused on playing piano, the PX-S1000 would be totally fine, but if you’re looking for something with extra features for semi-professional or professional applications, the PX-S3000 is a no brainer.
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I agree that Casio has come a long way with its digital pianos. But it is also true that, you Stu, can make even a Casio PT-1 sound awesome.
You guys are doing a great job, thank you for your honest review and that is a blessing for us the consumers!
Very helpful - thank you. All the info I wanted to know.
i always like your comparison series. very nice and useful
Well.... luckily, I can't tell the difference. It's like someone who can't tell fine dining and food court food is blessed. To them, they are always eating best food in their life. Guess that means ignorance is a bliss. But seriously, I love you review. Really appreciate the professional review!
I've made my mind on the PX-s3000 thanks to this video!! thank you so much for the information, valuation and the effort!!!!!
You've chosen a fantastic piano. It's really gorgeous.
Hi Stu, thanks for all the reviews, they help a lot! I wonder if you could make a review of casio px560M, thank you!
I have the PX-S1000. I wanted the 3000 but I couldn’t afford it at the time. Now, I’m looking to get the N3X or the NV10, and most likely gonna ride it out with the NV10. But I’m just here cause I love your reviews.
Excellent video Stu. I'm a 60-years-old beginner and I bought the PX-S1000 18 months or so ago. At the time the cost differential was $200CDN or so and I just didn't need the extra features to start learning. A small error in your video: the PX-S1000 has 1/4 inch output jacks just as the PX-S3000 does.
Superb💖
I've just bought the pxs3100 and I assure you that it's a beautiful and awesome instrument.
Nice equipment!
Hi there, Great playing as always. The PX-S3000 is a great keyboard, I tried one at the store!
My idea is to do a left hand bass split with organ or piano on top and sing over the various drum patterns; busking basically.
My questions are: 1] Is a registration basically a saved performance? 2] Can I edit the volume of the drum patterns or instruments and save that that as a registration/performance . 3] Can I name it? 4] Can I easily change the registration/performance really fast for a live set? If so. how many song template registrations could I have saved and ready.
Thanks in advance, Jim from Vancouver.
Stu, what is your favourite action?
Is Korg D1 action more realistic than Roland Fp-30x action?
I have both！🌠
Wish the Audio-Out sound would have been also been integrated in this video. (With decent speakers/headphones it sounds "2 classes" better)
I feel almost bad for criticising, as appreciating a lot your reviews :)
Once I put mine on surround, there was no going back. NO WAY. 🎹
In regards to the the price difference between the two models. Thinking about the manufacturing and distribution costs, the two instruments are very similar. It just doesn't cost the manufacturer that much more to throw on a more sophisticated electronics package. Aside from that, the manufacturing process is the same. Casio has always made high quality budget products for the ordinary man. In contrast Kawai has played to more of an elitist following. I like the sound of the Yamaha DGX auto accompaniment as compared to the Casio's which frankly sounds cheesy to me. A lot depends on the musicianship of the product specialists who create the sounds and patterns in the first place. I've never been able to get as much out of the Roland multi-timbrel synths as what is built into the included demo performances. Unfortunately Stu says he doesn't care for the Yamaha GHS action which seems to be used almost exclusively on almost all of Yamaha's lower priced offerings. If you ever get a Yamaha DGX-670 in, it would be interesting to do a sound comparison between it, the Casio pxS-3000 and the Kawai es920.
im so tired of twists in my decision to buy e-piano lets call it that...twist no33: im one step from buying px3000, thanx Stu for fantastic video. youre the best!
The pxs3000 and pxs3100 are absolutely brilliant instruments.
I have the px s3000. Love it! Everything on it can be tweaked.
Sam: Are you OK with the action? There has been so much negativism following the Piano Forever review, and it would be nice to hear the other side of the argument from a happy customer.
@@Zoco101 I also have the PX-S3000 and love it! It is my main keyboard because of its outstanding piano sounds and portability. I've used it outdoors with batteries and in a worship setting connected to a sound system at my church. All excellent with many, many compliments on the sound quality. I've played acoustic pianos for over 40 years. I know there are some complaints about the action, but it is totally fine if you know it is not an acoustic piano and won't feel weighted exactly the same. I actually prefer the action on this keyboard above some of the other main keyboard brands including Ro, Ya, and Ka in this price range. It has never prevented me from thoroughly enjoying it to the fullest and getting totally immersed in the quality of the piano sound (my bread and butter and this is one of the best ones in my opinion). This is still one of my favorite demos of the quality of the piano sound and versatility: th-cam.com/video/yEk-v-AJo3o/w-d-xo.html
@@Zoco101 I am happy with its default setting. There are 2 more weight parameters to it , 2 light, and 2 heavy. There have been arguments over difficulty when repeating on the same note at a fast pace. To which, depending on the piece I’m working on, I change it to suit my own playing speed. The grip on its textured keys are awesome. I have 2 acoustics and I seldom play on them. The Young Chang, on the heavier side. The Yamaha is lighter. So, I’m used to switching between heavier/lighter action. The PX S3000 made my comeback to playing the piano after more than 30 years a great experience.
@@myorganiclife Good for you. Thanks for the link. Her style is unusual, and refreshing.
The psx series are phenomenal and gorgeous instruments.
Did they change anything with the PS-X1100?
Just to point out. If you are using an android phone you need a specific cable. It must be a usb with OTG. Any other cable usb wont work. You need a usb B to whatever your phone connection or an adapter in between. Something I found out which is a pain as they don't mention it in the casio info.
Thanks so much for sharing that point! I know many of our community members will appreciate you mentioning that and saving them some time and hassle. :)
I wanna know what stand that PX-S1000 was on so I know to avoid it
The thing is the piano is putting out much better sound than the onboard speakers are capable of reproducing. I have a PX-775 running through a 200 watt receiver amp via the headphone jack going out to two sets of speakers - oriented to the mid/low and high on each side set on their backs - i.e. pointed upward on tray tables in front of the piano. The sound is in a different universe than using the onboard speakers.
Best part about these keyboards is the ivory keys. Your fingers don't "slip" like on regular piano keys, acoustic or electric. I find them unique. I also like the "lighter" action, which is less tiring, and very good for more kinds of uses, such as a midi controller. It still feels like a piano, but not one that you are getting a workout when you're trying to play fast.
I very much doubt it’s ivory….
@@richardbraham2486 fake ivory
I am very tempted to get the Privia 3000, but before I make my final decision, what other pianos should I check out that are on a similar level of quality and/or price range?
Prepare for excessive clicking noises while playing. Can become quite annoying
@@Alacrityness
Does the Privia 3000 get very clicky over Time?
@@brianseguel5308 1000 percent yes. Worse out of all those in it's price range. The Fp30x is better than all in that 700 bucks price range. Seems like they really improved that clicking noise. Many digital pianos less than 1000 do that. But roland Fp30x and fp60x and the kawaii 520 yamaha p515 seems to nearly eliminate all of that. The sound engine on those casios though are a beauty..wish I knew how to hack into the pianos and switch the software on the sound engines. Wish they improved on those actions. Really does affect the playing. Especially if you play with low volume, use headphones and others are around or sleeping. You can get used to it after a while. But it does tend to get worse and spread through the entire keyboard
@@Alacrityness Thank you, I love all the features that the Privia 3000 has, its connectivity, sounds and functions. But the action seems to be quite troublesome.
I wish the Roland had more sounds to play with at this price range, good thing the fp30x will have a line output at least.
Sound different because the 3000 has reverb and EQ effect and the 1000 doesn’t
Because of your videos I now check out the casios at the store. I am surprised how oddly many of those sounds are voiced. I liked the piano and rotary organ. Casio is working to get more respect, and they blew it attacking JPS when he simply pointed out a truth. They could have responded with maturity and kindness.
Mark Willis: I don't usually buy Casio pianos because they don't cater much to pro musicians, but I truly respect the company for its innovation, price competitivess, and value for money.
I'm wearing a Casio watch and I did buy a Casio CTK6200 keyboard for about €200, and this gives me lots of those fun features missing from my high end Yamaha portable piano. Casio is a company to respect and watch as the pianos get better and better. The PX-S3000 is an astonishing instrument and it will make a lot of players happy.
JSP is not a vulnerable user picked on by Casio; he's a great pianist who has chosen to be a reviewer, a type of journalist, but is rather condescending about dps and self-indulgent. Journalists have privileges and responsibilities. If JSP goes OTT with a flagship piano he should expect a backlash.
JPS made a claim. Casio said he was lying. Claim was true.
@@markwillis2980 Casio did not "say he was lying", they said that the test used (gram weight at the very end of the key tip) is not applicable to a short scale stage piano action, and not representative at all of how the action feels under the fingertips. They are 100% right about that, and JPS's response is to willfully misinterpret the response and get ego bruised about jt, and bang on about how it's a "professional test" that's good enough for "professional piano technicians", ignoring the fact that those piano technicians work on full length acoustic piano actions where distance effects _along_ the visible part of the key are neglible because the fulcrum point is much, *much* further back, which is why the test works for regulation of professional _acoustic grand_ pianos.
The thing is, JPS might not like the _tone_ the Casio reps took when dismissing his test and insisting that it's not applicable to a compressed stage piano action (and the fact that he was mentioned obliquely, not by name), but it's one thing to say "I don't think they personally showed me respect", and a completely different thing altogether to dig in your heels, and get so offended that you start pretending the Casio guys were being dishonest - if you listen to what the reps said, okay they might have been a bit snippy or dismissive about JPS's video (product design engineers being undiplomatic, who ever heard of such a thing lol) which in PR terms is obviously not a smart move, but in terms of the actual empirical engineering facts, everything they said is 100% true, and JPS's response is clearly just about feeling personally not shown respect, and not about the actual facts at all.
JPS made a criticism, Casio addressed it head on and said they disagree with his criticism, because he's using an inapplicable test to assess the weighting of the action (true), because he's not factoring in the difference in design philosophy between a concert grand 2-3ft action and a compressed stage piano ~1ft action. If he was being mature and responsible, JPS would have said, "oh, okay, my bad, I see why my test isn't showing a defect at all, but a conscious design choice here, to compensate for hand position on the black keys", or at the very least "I see the design trade-off being made here, but for me it doesn't work, I think it compromises the feel of the action, and I personally wouldn't recommend anyone purchase a piano with such a compressed action". Instead though he just goes off on one, saying that Casio is LYING, selling DEFECTIVE products, his PROFESSIONAL test is exposing a DEFECT. Like ok, you don't like short scale piano actions dude, fine, don't recommend them, but getting to the point you're comparing a well-designed weight compensated short scale piano action to a PSU that _literally_ explodes in use... And claiming that Casio is somehow trying to cover its tracks after he EXPOSED them with his PROFESSIONAL test by, get this, naming the updated product to the 1000 and 3000, 1100 and 3100 (wow what a cunning elaborate disguise)? It's just not serious, it's obviously become a very personal vendetta. And it gets clicks too, so TPF is likely to keep putting out these increasingly silly and clutching at straws videos, because the sensationalised titles do well in the algorithm, and attract casual viewers who don't know much about the design involved and so just take the charismatic presenters word for it over the boring and dry Casio reps.
The one thing I will say is this; Casio has made a real PR mistake here. As stupid as JPS's videos are, getting to the point an influential youtube reviewer has a personal vendetta against you, and one of your flagship products is very very bad for business. And if they'd, instead of wheeling out two fusty technical guys who scoff at the criticism, got some personable and telegenic product specialist to come in and stroke JPS's ego saying "wow, yes, you have noticed something about the way this innovatively short scaled action is designed, you clever boy, would you like to come to the Casio factory and have a conversation with us about the design philosophy of this product", or whatever, they would instead be getting free PR instead of this absolute shitstorm lol
Hey Stu, do you think the PX S3100 hás a richer piano sound than the PX S 1100? Thank you
Hi! Brent from Merriam Music here! Given that the PXS1100 and PXS3100 use the same speaker system and tone engine, the offer the same sound quality. The PXS3100 is simply the more premium version of the PXS1100 that offers more built-in sounds and features. :)
"I'm going on a bit to long with that"
6:36. 8:04
Hey Stu, the keyboard stand, I would say...very important, ...the S1000 stand moves and the S3000 keyboard doesn't move...what's up with that..
Kawai ES110 or Casio PX-1000/3000
Roland fp30x
@@practiceseeker6088 bro you are 7 month too late i already have the es110
@@SeikatsuCan Are you satisfied? I returned mine after two weeks and took Roland fp30
@@practiceseeker6088 yes i like it
Fp 90x
Rolland
Stu, can't you guys get a better piano stand for stage right? It gives me kittens watching the keyboard wobble about like that. Surely you want to set a good example by using an appropriate stand. Let me guess: It's a single X stand.
Bluetooth sounds like a nice idea, but would this not induce the latency and bombing out problems sometimes seen with Roland's app? I'm beginning to understand why Yamaha is shy about Bluetooth and Android.
Watching you try all those voices, I keep expecting your mom to make a complaint.
I like the discreet way you handled the (now so controversial) action issue. Portable pianos are always a box of compromises. No keyboard can do everything perfectly, and as you mention, the Yamaha GHS action leaves a lot to be desired too.
Bahahahhaha. I have the double X stand and I agree it still wobbles a bit when I bang on the S3000. I steady it with my knee, lol! And I’m not buying the wooden stand. Maybe a Z stand on casters so I can push it around the hall. The Bluetooth is for audio. The app is hooked to it on my iPad using a cable. No issues with the app. I bought this also cos I can record my songs to the pendrive and then plug in to the laptop for editing, wateva.
@@myorganiclife I've not had any trouble with double X stands. There's usually a tiny bit of springiness which gets eaten by the weight of the piano. Maybe the Casio is so light that the stand doesn't "sit down" fully.
@@Zoco101 it's OK with me 😁
I found it interesting that the PX S1000 moved around all over the place while you were playing it but the 3000 did not. I suspect that the 3000 was on a wooden stand made to fit while the 1000 was on a cheap X stand. Am I correct that this was intentional in order to make the 3000 more desirable and to give the illusion that the 3000 was more robust?
3000 é bem melhor!
While it's true Casio has done much to earn a place among manufacturers of quality digital pianos there is one feature in particular that I simply cannot abide. It is the "ivory feel" keys. Ugh! That's just a terrible idea. Those keys do not feel like piano keys at all. Anyone who's ever played a Steinway or Baldwin or any other real acoustic piano knows piano keys do not feel like the Casio textured keys. The second my fingers touch those Casio keys I am immediately repulsed. Who thinks it would be a good idea to take a belt sander with #24 grit sandpaper and rough up the keys of a beautiful Steinway? It makes no sense!
Different strokes for different folks!
If you're used to playing in a band under stage lights, or in hot, crowded small or mid-sized venues, having textured keys that prevent your fingers from slipping all over them is absolutely fantastic!
I personally _hate_ glossy plastic keys, always have, as soon as your fingers get the slightest bit sweaty (and after a couple of hours on stage, they do!), they slip.
But yes, it's true that they are rougher than real ivory or modern high-end pseudo-ivory (ovirite or whatever). I love them though, to the extent that this is an actual selling point for me, and I hope other manufacturers start going with this more "matte" finish! Hell, I'd buy a stage piano with wooden keytops if someone sold one lol.
Not saying you're wrong though, it's entirely personal preference. If you have a strong attachment to the sensation of glossy keys under your fingertips, I can see why this would be a turn-off for you! Maybe it's because, growing up, my ancient upright had wooden black keys and yellowing (quite possibly bone/ivory) white keytops. It wasn't a fine instrument, but it is the one I fell in love with! So I have no sentimental attachment at all to the sensation of shiny plastic under my fingers, and this matte finish feels quite pleasant to me.
Pure personal preference though :)
The action on these pianos feels cheap and unsatisfying.
I’ve had a 3000 since April. Love it.
@aakash Do you own this to say it confidently?
@@myorganiclife I disagree w him. I bought a 3000 and April and love it! I don’t care what videos they’re talking about with key weighting or what not and gram weights blah blah blah. The 3000 is one of the best keyboards I’ve ever owned. iPhone rowans I even had a triton extreme. I actually prefer the casio. I never thought I’d say that.
@@PianoMan-hx3ev most of the people are just rehashing negative comments made by jsp, who is adamant about justifying his findings on the difference in key weight out. So far, my playing with the s3000 has been a truly satisfying one. It's a steal at this price point honestly. Just a little getting used to, coming from a Young Chang and Yamaha acoustic piano user.
I tried it in guitar center. VERY nice action. Not too "weighted", just right, and the ivory key texture is amazing. Very good feeling when your fingers dont slip off because of sweat, or "greasyness"