Casio PX-S1100 vs PX-S1000 Digital Piano Review & Demo | Pros & Cons | What's The Difference?
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🔔 Click the 🔔 bell to be notified of all videos! ▸ bit.ly/SubscribeMerriam0:07 - Introduction on the PXS1100 vs PXS1000
1:14 - Audio Comparison between PXS1100 vs PXS1000
3:13 - Similarities between the PXS1100 vs PXS1000
5:55 - Difference between the PXS1100 vs PXS1000
7:23 - Line Out Playing Comparisons, Discussion on the Live Playing Experience
11:35 - Key Action and Touch Curve PXS1100 vs PXS1000
15:29 - Demo PXS1000
17:32 - Demo PXS1100
20:16 - Final Thoughts | Conclusions and Outro
Hi everyone and welcome to another piano comparison video on the Merriam Pianos TH-cam channel. Today, we’ll be seeing exactly how the new PX-S1100 from Casio compares to the piano it has replaced - the PX-S1000.
There are many folks out there who currently own an S1000 and are trying to understand if it’s worth trading up to the S1100, so hopefully, this video will be helpful.
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Background
We’ve done a few recent videos comparing the S1100 to some other pianos available in the same price point, such as the Roland FP10 and Yamaha P125. This of course brings us to the next logical comparison, which is seeing exactly how the S1100 has been improved from the S1000.
Let’s start by looking at what’s common between the S1100 and S1000.
Commonalities
On paper, the tone engine and all tone engine-related specs appear to be identical. Both pianos have 192 note polyphony, the same Casio Multi-Dimensional Morphing AiR sound source, the same 16 watts of amplifier power.
From there, they also have the same action, the same cabinet, the same pedal and stand options, and both are available in 3 finishes.
The user interface has been tweaked slightly, but it is also largely the same.
Differences
A nice upgrade with the S1100 is the inclusion of a Bluetooth adapter that allows for both Bluetooth MIDI and Bluetooth Audio. The S1000 only had Bluetooth Audio, so this upgrade is definitely welcomed.
The other big difference is the new speaker design featured on the S1100, which Casio claims has really enhanced the overall quality. We are noticing that there definitely is a difference with the sound quality between these two, especially in the mid-range and treble, with the S1100 sounding better.
Thicker chords sound clearer on the S1100, and there’s more definition overall. The improvements aren’t dramatic, but they’re certainly noticeable, especially to the player.
Action
As mentioned above, the action is the same on both pianos. Overall, we’re pretty satisfied with this action for the price point. It’s calibrated very well to the sound engine, and quite responsive on the whole.
Features & Connectivity
The rest of the features and functions are the same across both pianos, with things like Layer, Split, built-in songs and basic recorder.
Both pianos have USB ports, as well as discreet ¼” stereo line outputs. This makes both instruments viable gigging options.
Both pianos can also be operated with 6 AA batteries, which can actually be a big deal for some folks looking for maximum portability.
Despite the new speaker design, Casio has also managed to keep the weight down on the S1100 just like on the S1000, making the S1100 the slimmest and lightest fully weighted 88-note digital piano on the market.
Summary
The biggest musical difference we’re getting from the S1100 is more clarity in the mid-range and more detail in the treble. The Bluetooth adapter is also a nice add on.
Other than that, we’ve pretty much got the same instrument here. Is it worth it for you to upgrade if you already have an S1000? We would say it’s worth it only if you primarily play your digital piano acoustically and can really hear a big difference in the sound.
If this doesn’t describe you, the upgrades probably aren’t enough to justify a trade up.
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00:00 Intro
01:11 PX-S1000 speakers
01:53 PX-S1100 speakers
02:53 PX-S1000 line-out
03:03 PX-S1100 line-out
03:12 Overview
05:52 Differences
07:22 PX-S1000
08:03 PX-S1100
09:50 PX-S1000
11:39 PX-S1100
13:26 Other functions
15:29 PX-S1000 speakers
16:09 PX-S1000 speakers
17:31 PX-S1100 speakers
18:21 PX-S1100 speakers
20:12 Summary
21:04 Subscribe, like and share
Hi Stu & Crew.
Tasty production, intro full of nice b-roll with voiceover, close-ups - so I can see a texture on the keys, almost makes me want to touch ;-)
PX-S1100 speakers are more substantial and hefty yet precise, more immediate (maybe we need a spectral analysis of this recording to be sure?)
PX-S1000 speakers are mid-centered and flat, feels like there is a hole in the frequency
Or may it just be my headphones trying to reproduce brutally compressed sound from YT ;-)
I need to hear it live.
Is there a space/place for the public?
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Erm... I see a dark nimb around Stu, some shadow lurks behind him...
2:52 to 15:29 on the console screen.
It's nit-picking but brings to mind a low-res artifact from the green screen th-cam.com/video/gQuL0VYM7c0/w-d-xo.html
Distracting smudge, 0,1% missing to perfection ;-)
(...)
Just have learned a basic profile of a successful songwriter, it's bleak ;-) th-cam.com/video/8PbnmiLkzBU/w-d-xo.html
Green screen? Isn't it just the shadow reflecting back from the actual computer screen?
And finally...the video we’ve all been waiting for!!!
I always am inspired by your playing.
I so enjoy your playing. I could hear distinct differences in both line out and mic’d samples. I am very much leaning towards the S1100 as my first 88 key instrument.
The comment at 12:10 regarding the tone curve calibrated really nicely: very good point, Stu. Let me offer my take on that in general, and will take the Kawai ES920 as an example of what I will call "the blurred sample effect". I played this PX-S1100 in the store today, and yes, this one sounds smooth, without the harsh transitions other Casio pianos had before. BUT there is a catch: the piano samples are "blurred". To explain my point, I will use the case of software pianos: anybody who has used vst pianos, even if it is a high quality one, knows how easily is to make them sound harsh and toy-like: just give them a bad velocity curve. One way to instantly alleviate that problem is to use a MIDI modifier in your DAW, where you soften the velocity value and the piano sounds smoother because you will be playing the softer piano samples. But then, if you limit the piano dynamics too much, the sounds becomes blurred. So, here you have a dilemma: sound clear but harsh transitions, or sound smooth but blurred. And blurred is not the same as "smooth", "warm", etc. Blurred is blurred. Clear is clear.
I played the Kawai ES920 last week, and what I heard was a blurred sampled. A "warm", "smooth" sample is something different. By "blurred", I mean this: the piano lacks definition in the notes, it is like playing a 360 pixel video.
I bought the only decent Kawai vst piano that I have been able to find, which is the "Kawai EX Pro" by Acoustic Samples. I have been comparing it with recordings of the Novus NV5/5S and it is clearly the same overall tone (the Kawai SK-EX and the Kawai EX are both concert pianos, both sold by Kawai, and both around $200,000, with the SK-EX being more premium than the EX by about $20,000). The Kawai EX Pro produces a beautiful sound, the bass notes are really nice, very sparkly treble. But you play the "Kawai EX" sample in the Kawai ES920 and it sounds blurred by comparison.
The Kawai EX Pro has 10 GB of samples, you can hear far more detail than what the ES920 offers, which is an alleged sample of the SK-EX. But this is the issue I find: first, the SK-EX is placed in an anechoic chamber, then recorded, but only the attack portion of each note, not the full note. Yes, 88 note sampling, BUT not the full decay. So, you have Harmonic Imaging XL to make up the character of the piano by means of modeling... meaning: fake sound. In order for this to work smoothly, whatever sound was recorded at that anechoic chamber needs to be blended with other artifacts. And in order to work with the velocity curve of the actual piano action, more blurred needs to occur...
The result is: you get clear notes in the Kawai EX Pro by Acoustic Samples vs a blurred sound in the ES920. And I think many people confuse that blurred sound with the "beautiful, warm tone of a well regulated Kawai". I disagree. I think Kawai has a beautiful sound in their acoustic pianos, but I am not sure if the piano sample in the ES920 is that great.
A piano vst, even a small league virtual piano like the Kawai EX Pro, has more detailed recordings than most Kawai digital pianos.
This is the reason I like some Yamaha digital pianos, not all. It is about resolution in the sample and sense of sound realism, not piano brand loyalty. I don't care who makes the digital piano, what I want is a high resolution sample of whatever piano they sample, whether is Kawai, Yamaha, Steinway, Bechstein, Estonia, etc.
Virtual pianos are a step in the right direction, but their weak point is the velocity curve. Digital pianos, on the other hand, may offer a good velocity curve and responsiveness, but at the expense of a blurred sample that is confused with a warm sound.
I came for the review, and stayed for the mini-concert. :-) Thanks, Stu!
This is probably your only video I came across without 🎹 in the title LOL🎹🎶
I bought an S1000 as a camping keyboard.
It has since become my primary gig
instrument. (I was carrying my Yamaha CP 4. It's retired from gigging.)
At 73 years old with sciatica, 24 pounds is KEY.
This video was intriguing enough highlighting the difference in clarity in the midrange and highs that I am buying the S1100 to see for myself.
I hope the difference in clarity is apparent when I play both.
I'll probably sell the S1000.
Thanks for the review of these instruments.
Very helpful.
Nice touch by the way.
Thanks for tuning in! You're very welcome! We're glad you enjoyed the video comparisons. I definitely hear you about the amazing portability of the PXS1000 and PXS1100. It really is one of the most convenient gigging pianos and the playing and musical experience is fantastic. Thanks again and happy playing! :)
Pls make a video on PXS1100 vs CDP S100/110/150 (any)
a big thumb up, so detailed intro
Thank you kindly! We appreciate it. :)
Hi Stu, I upgraded to the 1100 as I liked the feature whereby you can record to USB. I just sold my PSX 1000. I did have them side by side at one point. I agree with everything you said re sound and speakers. But I think the action on the 1100 is a bit firmer - I could be imagining this! What I did though was turn the volume down on both and listened to the keyboard noise. The 1100 that I have was much quieter than the 1000. I continued to use the 1000 for church worship but feel more secure on the 1100. Maybe just physiological!
Olá, os dois modelos tem aquela saída de som atrás das teclas? Estou a decidir qual modelo comprar, se vale a pena o investimento no novo modelo?
I Don't know if somenone can still say that the CASIO Privia 🎹 are not good instruments 🤨
AMAZING PIANO I LOVE THE PRIVIA 🎹♥️ I have the 1100 😉 it sounds beautiful 🙏👍
They something more than "not good" th-cam.com/video/hKhfgX5LWl4/w-d-xo.html
Could you highlight the main differences between the 1100 and 3100?
Hi Stu Harrison, a similar video comparing the PX-S3100 to the 3000 would be much appreciated by me if it's something you'd be interested in making. And regardless, thanks for the helpful videos, love your attitude and approach, I bet you're an excellent teacher. Tasty changes regularly springing out from under your fingers too ;)
We appreciate your kind words immensely! Thank you so much for checking out the channel! Expect a PXS3100 vs PXS3000 video in the near future. We have not yet received our first supply of PXS3100s quite yet, but, once they arrive, we will definitely be reviewing and comparing it against other models. :)
@@MerriamPianos Great, I look forward to it! And thanks for getting back to me too!
Please do Yamaha dgx 670 review, or even better 670 vs the old 660 comparison.
I’m just an amateur guitarist who’s just starting out to learn piano, and my ears aren’t sensitive enough to really detect any difference in the midrange clarity, but even I can hear that there’s an improvement in the details of the high notes. Definitely richer tones in the 1100, but as you mentioned, not really by that much.
go to kawai to see the difference 😎
I know both units have a few reverb effect options, but do either of them have any delay (ie echo/repeat) style effects? Or would I be looking at the 3100 for those types of features?
I realized that the bass section was more balanced and less dominant on the 1100, especially over headphones.
Modx8 please.
Beautiful Playing as usual.
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Greetings from Madrid.
Merriam Music is not a Yamaha dealer (but they do have some Amazon links for some basic digital pianos, like the P125). The MODX8 is a professional synthesizer, so I don't think they would buy one just for a review... by the way, it has a voice called "S700 for Montage", a piano sample reserved only for the MODX, Montage, CP, and YC professional stage keyboards. It was the famous sample in the S90ES.
Mr Stu,why does it sound like an older Steinway.....which is a good thing..? it has that shear
Any of these keyboards can be connected via usb/midi to a computer right ? So use Logics, Native Instruments, Korg software instruments piano sounds ?
May i ask sir what are you settings for the casio pxs? It really sounds amazing.
I would have to verify with Stu directly, but I know that the vast majority of the time the sound being demonstrated is the default piano sound when you power on the piano. This is usually the company's concert grand offering and, most often, their best piano sound.
I just came from a visit to a couple of music stores, where I played the Casio PX-S1100 and PX-S3000, among other digital pianos. I will compare their sound with a Kawai ES920, Roland FP90X, the Yamaha P series (P45, P125, P515), the Yamaha DGX-670, and the Korg XE20. I used both their built-in speaker systems as well as an Audio-Technica ATH M40X studio headphones.
1) Casio PX-S1100 vs PX-S1000/3000: The internal sample in the PX-S1100 is kind of dark and blurred through studio headphones, but it has more clarity through its built-in speaker system when compared to the PX-S3000. But it is not something amazing, just a little audible improvement. In fact, compared to the Yamaha P45, the PX-S1100 has less clarity in the sample and also through its speaker system. For those who are quick to ditch the Yamaha P45, particularly because of some people saying it is "too simple sound, too old, too few options", etc., I will say this: the Yamaha P45 is, in person, both through studio headphones and through its speaker system, a strong contender against the Casio PX-S1100, even against the Yamaha P125. I am talking about the P45 in terms of what it is: a simple digital piano with little extras. I don't evaluate a piano based on specifications, because there is a significant difference between the hype and the reality. A more complex piano engine does not necessarily translate into a better sound.
By the way, the speaker system of the PX-S1100 is QUIET, VERY QUIET, even at full volume. It produces a sound similar to the Yamaha PSR EW310, a keyboard that has only 2.5 watts per channel. Yes, 8 watts in the Casio are, in person, pretty similar to the 2.5 watts in the Yamaha. This is what happens: those speakers in the PX-S1100 are basically mounted on the slim frame of the piano, with no dedicated speaker box.
So, the PX-S1100 is pretty much a PX-S1000 with a bit more clarity in the treble.
2) Kawai ES920: I played it last week. I really expected to see something much better. To me, it ranks below the Yamaha P515, both in the action and the sound. I am talking about the instrument not as seen in videos, but in person. Regardless of what people keep saying about the P515 having a heavy action, the instrument feels actually lighter to me than the Roland FP90X action.
3) Roland FP90X: Very pretty piano. Doesn't sound as realistic as the Yamaha P515. One funny thing about its "60 watts amplifier": it sound less powerful, in person, than the Yamaha DGX 660 and DGX 670. Direct comparison of the 3 instruments at maximum volume doesn't lie: the 6 watts amplifier per channel in the Yamaha sounds more full than the 60 watts in the Roland. Why? To me, the answer is simply: the speaker system. The DGX 660, which I opened before, has long speaker boxes inside (they are much longer than they appear when you open the piano). The FP90X probably has smaller speakers and boxes, so the sound can't be as powerful as the DGX 660/670.
4) Korg XE20: The contender, allegedly, to the Yamaha DGX 670... not even close. The "German" piano it has sounds ugly. I used to have the Korg PA60 about 15 years ago, which is the same arranger inside the Korg XE20, so Korg is re-circulating their oldest arranger. The arranger is much better than the Casio PX-S3000/31000, though, which is the worse arranger in any digital piano ensemble.
5) Yamaha P515: To me, it is the most realistic digital slab piano, when compared to the Kawai ES920 and Roland FP90X. The action feels smooth and light to me, despite the claims of being heavy. It has the best speaker system of any digital slab piano.
6) Yamaha DGX 670: It has the same weight as the Roland RD2000 (48 lbs) and it is lighter than the Roland FP90X by 4 lbs (the FP90X is 52 lbs, one of the heaviest digital pianos).
As a digital piano, the DGX 670 has an action comparable to the competition, which is the PHA-4 and other plastic actions. I don't think this action is amazing, but neither is the PHA-4 or the Casio or Kawai plastic actions. Some people glorify the PHA-4, but to me is kind of clunky. I guess it is a matter of opinion, not facts.
The DGX 670 has the most powerful speaker system of any slab digital piano, despite being 6 watts of power. In person, it sounds fuller and as loud as any other slab piano, including the Kawai ES920 and Roland FP90X. You only get that kind of growl when moving to home pianos.
It has more features than any other digital piano: over 600 sounds, over 200 styles WITH 4 VARIATIONS (those who use arrangers know this matters), a built-in Audio Interface, 16-track sequencer, and a powerful modeling engine featuring the CFX sample.
Very extensive assessment. Based on what you are saying I'm glad I saved my money and bought a DGX-670 instead of a Kawai es920. I have no complaint whatsoever with the DGX-670. I have yet to try the new Casios. For ease of transport the Casios really can't be beat. Nobody answers the question about latency with Pianoteq. With the DGX-670 there is none, which means you can create really awesome hybrid voices. with the two, I still detest that the string voices do not sustain with the sustain pedal on the DGX. I purchased this arrangement from Charles Szczepanek:
th-cam.com/video/DJuEVNhh5wI/w-d-xo.html
This is an awesome piano sound. What I came up with to replicate it is the Pianoteq Pro Hamburg Steinway "Prelude" voice combined with "Sweet Tines" from the Yamaha, which is a Rhodes type of voice. The Rhodes is softly under-laid beneath the Steinway which is the dominant voice. The end result is very good for the mood of this piece.
@@JoeLinux2000 I checked the link. Very beautiful smooth piece. By the way, I suggest trying one of the blank flat "User" EQ presets in your DGX 670. The default curve is "Normal", which I think it gives you a weird piano sound, kind of muffled and boomy. Once you are in a flat EQ preset, go to the "80 Hz" knob and turn it down by about 7 decibels. You will get a much clearer sound from the CFX.
You have a clear leaning to the Yamahas, and that’s okay, but in no way you can compare the P-45 to the PX-S1100 and say that the sound sample is more important than specs; a pianist, even a beginner-starting medium level will need more than 64 notes polyphony to practice pieces with pedal, the polyphony on the P-45 is just not enough, and the tone sounds like a cold, lifeless one with nothing but over brightness without one bit of timber change, no matter the dynamics, now, they seem to prefer using one single very well made sample on a default mezzo-piano dynamic sample, and decided to set the volume up or down for every velocity curve strike, so in theory just like a sensitive “piano toy” with a very good quality sample, the PX-S1100 however has 192 notes polyphony, which is more than enough even for medium-advanced pianists on a real world scenario, yeah they can have this lower quality sampling, but the tone is way more colorful, richer, has a much wider dynamic range and is more organic or “natural” sounding in musical terms, not to mention it has a much longer decay with overtones interaction, and lots of editable nuances that give it a bit more “realism”, and maybe those are the reason why Casio decides to sacrifice sampling quality over quantity (or also many other sample based digital grand brands, since having more data to process in high quality occupies more storage, and the actual processing technology isn’t as powerful as a modern PC, now that might be the reason why they optimize those and compress the files so they fit and respond accordingly).
If we talk about real objective use of the built in tones, is to use them mostly to play through the speakers or normal headphones, and those are not meant to be recorded on an audiophile studio (?), because most people won’t even notice the difference, nor those will be noticeable in full quality while they are uploaded to TH-cam or Spotify, compression ruins quality, and some of the only ways to overcome those is with an extremely well sampled VTS, or as the most recommended option a real grand piano, but most of that just makes no sense for the average public this kind of instruments are aimed to.
@@IvanEDaza Hello Ivan. Your statements run along the specs, not the actual in-person experience. If you sit in front of those two digital pianos, and you play them without having any idea of their specs, you will then be able to experience the actual piano, not what the specs makes you think they should do.
1) The P45 will not drop notes in a real life scenario of the average person playing some pieces. Open a vst piano and look at the polyphony count for most beginner/medium level pieces: it is pretty low.
2) The P45 sound is actually very sweet, not cold and lifeless. Yamahas have a nice tone preferred by most recording artists.
3) The P45 dynamics is there, probably simulated, but it is there. The PX-S1100 has better dynamics, but it doesn't sound better. Better dynamics doesn't forcefully translate in actual real better sound. It depends on how well the overall piano tone was executed.
4) The PX-S1100 is in no way this more colorful, richer, wider dynamics, etc,. that is presented to be. The blurred sample kills the realism. At high velocities, you hear annoying piano notes ringing on both the lower and upper registers.
5) Both instruments perform well and similarly in real life playing scenarios. The alleged superiority of the PX-S1100 based on engine specs does not check strong enough during an in-person experience. The reality is different from the hype and the assumptions that people make based on specs.
@@Instrumental-Covers , I'll check out your suggestion to adjust the EQ. I still find the user interface on the DGX annoyingly complex and very difficult to use. On he positive side it does allow for saving and recalling presets in an almost unlimited number with a USB stick and a large number within the instrument itself. I really wish I could call you on the phone. I recorded something the other day, and the recording function is very good except I could not figure out an easy way to delete a take that I did not want. One way is to turn the entire machine off, but that seems very clumsy,
I play a Casio PX-5S. It’s very hard to find a digital piano that sounds and plays as good as it. I’ve thought about a Yamaha P-515 but have never played one. I almost bought a used Kawai CA-99 which I’ve never played before, but I would like to get a grand piano because I’ve never owned an acoustic.
Does it have the Tri-sensor Hammer Action that the older Privia's (like PX-150, 160, 360, 560, etc) has?
I have owned the S 1000 for the past three years. The S 1100 definitely sounds better to my ears, especially in the mid range.
The PXS1000 is still an excellent instrument that holds up! Of course, every next generation of the model will likely be a little more refined in terms of its tone and touch. Thanks for tuning in! :)
Used S1100 for $600 used or S1000 new for $550? Alternatives?
I’m a guitarist and vocalist, dabble in piano. I played the 1100 last night and loved the feel and simplicity. The wood-textured keys are a must. Thanks!
I neve the same doubt.
I’m 33 and have never played an instrument (other than a violin for like 1 year as a child), do you think I can be a pretty decent player in like 2 years? I’m thinking of this being a first keyboard for me..
Yes! Gotta put In the time but if it really interests you, it will be easy to advance. I say go for it, even if you aren't decent within two years, you will have a TON of fun learning your favorite songs.
A question to anyone who can answer it: When using external speakers, is there NO difference in sound whatsoever between the 1000 and the 1100?
Assuming that by "external speakers" you mean a high quality set of studio monitors, I would say this:
Both models seem to feature the same sample. Casio does not mention to have put a new sample. If you go to both manuals, they both have the same 18 sounds. In their website, they say that the PX-S1000 has a "breathtaking stereo grand piano" and the PX-S1100 has a "breathtaking German concert grand piano". The only extra information about the PX-S1100 is that the "breathtaking" piano is a "German concert". So, they could be the same grand piano, but they revealed more information about it in this second iteration.
I played both recently, and they kind of sound the same to me through headphones, although a bit better through the speaker system. Now, there is a difference, though: the PX-S1100 has a "newly enhanced string resonance", which means an enhanced digital fake artifact that is supposed to be added to the sample and recreate the string resonance of a piano. This is done through modeling. Is that a big difference? No.
So, you could say there is a difference in sound due to the "newly enhanced string resonance". The resonance was there before, but now it has been "enhanced". Is it going to be something that will make both pianos easily identifiable and different through external speakers? Not really. String resonance is typically a subtle change. Even completely turning on and off the effect is typically not a huge difference in other pianos.
Lastly, one thing that could be different: the way the sample responds to the action. I played them both very recently but not side by side, but in two different Guitar Center stores, and I didn't pay enough attention to this specific issue. This is very important, though: the same sample can respond differently, even with the same action, if the velocity curve was calibrated differently. So, the overall experience could be different if they did anything to the velocity curve.
@@Instrumental-Covers Wow! Thank you so much! I hope others will find your comprehensive answer helpful as well 🙂
@@Svarthok Hi! I am glad it was helpful. 🙂
Does anyone know why there are no KORG digital pianos around here?
We are not a Korg dealer at this time, so it is a little tougher to get our hands on models for review. With that said, we do periodically get pianos in on trade-ins and have made a list of the most requested Korg models to tackle. We will do our best to cover those. :)
@@MerriamPianos I understand, congratulations for the great work done here on youtube.
Can someone recommend best model for beginners ?
I don't know. If you can find a used Casio from the PX-150 onward, I think they would be good. The Yamahas too. Everyone but me seems to like Rolands. That said I own several vintage Roland synths and think they were great. If you don't mind complexity, the DGX-670 can do a lot at its price point. I'm totally fine with its action. Just don't overspend. You'll be throwing money away in my opinion. The two home digital pianos I like are the Roland LX-708 and the Kawai CA-99, but they are really too expensive if you aren't sure you are going to stick with it. It's a lot of work to learn to play well. It takes dedication.
I don't think there is a "best model". Of course, you will hear "Kawai all the way" and similar statements, but those are opinions, not facts. A more balanced approach would be to list a few models that are good for beginners, and assuming you want the cheapest models, I would list:
1) Kawai ES110
2) Casio PX-S1100 (I wouldn't recommend cheaper Casio models because you hear harsher transitions between dynamic levels)
3) Roland FP30X
4) Yamaha P125
A digital piano that is a sort of an outlier is the Yamaha DGX-670. It is indeed a digital piano, but it is more of a workstation, meaning, not just for piano, but to create full ensembles, and it also has powerful accompaniment features. It is the most feature-packed digital piano out there, but if you don't use or don't know how to use the extra features, then it would be pointless to get all those extras. However, it has a large color screen and a "Piano Room" that displays your settings beautifully. So, even if you don't use any of the extras, you still get the large nice color screen, which you will not get in any other digital piano, no matter the price. This specific model is hard to beat.
you would prefer Yamaha P45 or PX-S1100?
1100
I had a Casio piano but keyboard was definitely inferior to Yamaha and Roland. So the current generation is still not on par ??
I hear very little difference. Honestly what sounds different to me is just variations on playing or variation on manufacture.
I thought the PX-S1000 sounded a hair better to my ears.
Can we address Elephant in the room. The big debate about how the casio keyboard on the 1000 and 3000 as its the same keybed, have a flawed keyboard. The black keys are weighted lighter than the white and should be the same weight for a balanced keyboard. Most of us have seen the videos on youtube of how James proved this problem using weights.
What's your personal view on this? Did you find it a problem? A lot of people skirt around this question, but as a consumer and not having played it myself, I would really like to know this. When buying a keyboard, most of us rely on experts such as yourself, to make an informed choice as nowadays with so many local music shops closed, we have no access to try before we buy other than ordering and then theres the hassle of boxing up and returning.
I know this is a contentious issue, but I would rather hear experiences from multiple sources to make an informed decision. I have to say I like the tone of the keyboard and its slim looking design, but this issue floating around is enough to stop me buying it.
Hey @Jon Brunton Music - it certainly is a topic deserving of discussion, but I think it's been largely mis-characterized. What hasn't helped is Casio has failed to respond to the issue with any sort of effective or transparent communication, which has just added unnecessary fuel to this.
So, here are my own thoughts on the issue (while it's widely known that we are Casio dealers, these are NOT Casio talking points, and my opinions haven't been approved or supplied by Casio).
Here's the issue: the shorter any key stick is, the more dramatic the variation in key weight between the front and the back of the key surface (white or black). This is just the basic physics of a lever. Casio made the decision (rightly or wrongly) to build those keyboards with the smallest and lightest dimensions they could, which meant shrinking the depth of the action as well. To get around the inevitable weighting issues this would cause, what Casio seems to have done is select the point on both the white and black keys where the majority of players actually press down, and weighted the keys based on that - I'm guessing this is why they chose the name "Smart Scaled".
The potential problem with such a short key though is that for professional or advanced classical players, there are many situations where you would be playing "in" to the keyboard, and even just a few millimeters further back will dramatically increase the sense of weight. Similarly, were you to play the black keys right at their tips (where James weighted them out), it's going to seem artificially light.
So for those critical of the design decision, it would have been totally appropriate to point out that short keys are going to be potentially problematic for experienced players. But by referring to it specifically as a flaw, viewers are left to feel like it was either a design mistake or quality control issue - neither of which are true in my view.
Casio consciously shrank the keyboard to achieve a space and weight savings. Knowing this was going to create huge variations in resistance at different points on the keyboard, they made a decision to weight out each key based on the most likely point at which an average player would press it. Is this going to create issues for certain players and repertoire? Yes. Are most beginners or hobbyist-level players going to notice or care (the obvious target audience for these models)? Super unlikely.
So was it a good or bad decision by Casio? Fair question and open to debate - they obviously felt that the pro's outweighed the con's. But flogging it relentlessly as a flaw reduces the discussion to a mud-slinging match where most customers see the issue as one of negligence or ineptness, whereas the reality is far more nuanced.
Cheers and thanks for the great question! -stu
@@MerriamPianos Thanks for that more in depth explanation. I can understand a bit more on why it was designed that way and the target audience now. It's obviously just down to a try before you buy on this particular design of keyboard, to see if it suits your style of playing, rather than as
you say, just labeling it as flawed. Thanks.
@@MerriamPianos i was about to buy one when i was perusing reviews and saw that discussion back and forth elsewhere. they had even said the person in question was deleting comments, but then they disabled their own after people started going after them about it i guess. thats just really bad. casios response just really turned me off. looking at a yamaha or kuwai at this point. i currently have two casios, one i love thats pretty old, the other which is newer is so so. just not getting another.
@@MerriamPianos Very well said.
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Whatever Stu plays will sound very good. Same with Masataka Kono:
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He could play a ham sandwich and I’d be floored.
I agree! and now I fancy a sandwich.
didn't hear meaningful deference
Why not also talk about who manufacture digital pianos... Casio is japanese.. Do they send the 1100 from Japan?
very important question.
No. The only factory Casio has in Japan is YAMAGATA CASIO, which manufactures premium Casio watches, not keyboards or digital pianos. From articles I have read, it seems they have plants around the world where they manufacture their musical instruments. This is an excerpt from one article, "While only 30 percent of Casio's production was overseas in 1993, two years later 80 percent of the company's products were made in foreign plants. By 1996 Casio had plants in Singapore, Malaysia, Thailand, and Korea, in addition to its Hong Kong, Taiwan, and North American plants." Think of Casio digital pianos as "electronics", whereas companies like Yamaha and Kawai do have plants dedicated to digital pianos. By the way, Casio as a company is big, much bigger than Kawai or Roland, but half the size of Yamaha.
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Casio should get ahead of the game and provide over the air software updates instead of the next model iteration of the same thing with a new model number
While not every pianist's desired upgrade or feature can be accommodated on a new generation of a model, the PXS1100 does offer some meaningful improvements and updates from its predecessor. Thanks so much for tuning in! :)
Eu acho que não tem nenhuma diferença. Acho melhor o s1000 por ser um pouco mais barato do que o s1100
There are some subtle differences between the two models, but, in terms of the core piano experience, it is not a major update. In any case, either of these models would make for a wonderful musical companion. :)
kind of an idiot move on Casio's behalf to have a Bluetooth adapter that you can't use with a headset. How does such a large and ostensibly successful company screw up so bad?
Actually, Bluetooth headsets cannot be used with any digital pianos regardless of brand, model, and price point. The issue is that there would be a delay between when the key is struck and when the sound is heard. For the time being, this means that wireless Bluetooth headphones are not an option.