I can't see see someone cutting themselves 30 times and cutting his own artery by accident, nope, injured testicle happen in a fight, then drowned in a river by... chance ?! it's just weird to me that people would want to think this was self inflicted. Probably he was going off the rails that put him in a bad situation, but the self inflicted theory is just weird.
They found wounds consistent with self harm. Suicide is a very unnatural act and he was working up the courage. When it comes to his testicles then ask his wife or the many partners he found online. The guy was probably kinky.
@@SP-qo3pd Cool, I have hard opinions on nothing anymore because of the half information given and there are just weird things that happen with billions of people.
“A pen knife is usually considered relatively safe. For example, we don’t see a lot of pen knife running biker gangs or hear police officers yelling: drop the pen knife.” 🤣😂. Love Dr. Grande’s dry humour 😂😂😂🙈
Basically it was a competition to see who could inflict the most extreme/painful acts of self mutilation and it usually involved male genitalia... a couple guys actually cut their wobbly bits off. My point is a lot of people have stabbed themselves in the dick 😂
Dang, the DA's office OK'd leaving the actual CASH in those containers??? You are right Dr Grande, ANYONE could have snagged that container. This is sad because I have a feeling no one will PROPERLY investgate this incident.
It was probably his prick of a boss. But he was a prosecutor, so it could have been a revenge kill. His wallet and money were intact so it was probably personal, regardless unless a hooker was defending her or himself. I don’t know how hard that could possibly be?
@@iwatchbaywatch-notyourmoth1568 I was a college student in burbs back then. What little I know comes from my neighbor down the hall... who was an MSP detective had to work a thirty seven hour shift on the case.
@@jessewilley531 wow interesting.. if he was bleeding out I thought the collapse drown thing sounded outrageous - but if he was minutes away from death it’s possible they were all self inflicted and he stumbled his way to the creek in a feet of desperate thirst - hearing that before one dies asking for water extreme thirst is a tell they’re about to go
You've been insanely consistent with your videos. I have no idea how you find the time to film and upload daily videos, but it's super impressive. Keep it up doc!!
I. Still sticking with Pennsylvania M.E. Office. Money been missing from Baltimore before, and even the judge that Mr. Luna appeared in front of that day said, he drove a long way to commit suicide. His wife was a physician, they were fine with money. The sex b.s. online was another person, not this Luna. However, I’m not sure we will ever know. I feel bad for his family. His wife never talked publicly, and I understand that.
"He left his office without his glasses which he needed to drive, but he may have had another pair in his vehicle or he just decided to drive poorly. He would end up driving through New Jersey; maybe he was just trying to fit in." As usual Dr. Grande’s deadpan delivery only adds to the severity of the burn! Take that, drivers of NJ!🔥
I normally wear glasses when I drive, but if I left them behind, I still could drive. The only difference is I wouldn't be able tread signs until I'm up close, but I could still see everything, but not as clearly with my glasses.
Yes this was a crazy burn, and you'd never notice that it went down if you were just looking at him talk. Even listening closely it blends right in, and almost sounds like some scientific point.
I’m leaning towards a homicide as the reason for his demise. The scattered money in the car, bad parking, engine still running, a drop of someone else’s blood, partial palm print?, two tanks of gas, two sodas, a toll ticket when he had “easy pass”, bruised testicles, 36 slashes with a pen knife and drowning in shallow water. It sounds like someone was driving in tandem with him for some reason, at a private spot they stopped and a struggle broke out. The money was scattered during a tussle and he may have tried to defend himself with the penknife and it was wrestled away from him and he was slashed at, out of the car he may have been kicked in the groin area and then held down with his face in the water?
Yes! You are right once again! There may be several unknowns in this case, but one thing we know for sure, is that he was a victim of a horrible investigation! ❤️
Mr. Luna seemed like such a genuinely nice and hardworking man, he didn't deserve all the stressors he had to deal with prior to the incident with him getting reprimanded at work. Sad.
@@jasonmichael3676 That doesn't take anything away from his character had he been a good person. You know how many middle class families are running up credit cards to keep up with the Jones' while one or both spouses are creeping around? He was a young, black, aspiring attorney. From the time he was wearing suits in high school, you can tell that his personal image was important to him. I'm mixed, and I'm from a small white southern town. The difference in treatment I got when I wore full suits was astounding. I simply wore them to have an easier day. So its no wonder he's running up credit cards when he's around rich, powerful people. It's a crushingly insecure feeling to be black and poor around rich men with power. They don't want that image around them, and you don't want it around you, either. So you pretend. You run up cards and hope your hard work will let you pay it off eventually. He just got unlucky and clashed with his boss, who should have been his ticket to his dreams. Sad, really.
I knew someone who "fell in" to stealing from a remotely audited routine work cash flow . . . eventually it caught up with him and he remarked that he had developed the (hmmm, was it "worst possible" or "easiest" ? ) addiction of all . . . an addiction for money. The price tag for being seduced by the sirens of life are rarely initially apparent. Wikipedia : In Greek mythology, the sirens were dangerous creatures, who lured nearby sailors with their enchanting music and singing voices to shipwreck on the rocky coast of their island." . . . in this case it was perhaps a muddy creek ! :-/
...until he stole $36,000 from the state. It is not normal to bring cash into court as evidence like that, the fact that any of it went missing makes pretty obvious that the prosecutor who initiated it was involved in the theft.
@@maxwellschneiter he must'a just watched "Miracle on 34th Street" where the evidence is bags and bags and bags of U.S. mail . . . nothing will persuade the jury like a quick roll in the dough ! B-)
I'm just gonna say...the kid was set up by his boss (when the money went missing). Such a shame. Some people suck. This young man was too pure for where his career took him. There is so much corruption in DC, at the FTC and in the AG's offices. He seemed like the type of man who genuinely wanted to do the right thing and he probably crossed some bad people in his career. Probably a hit. Easily covered up because it was most likely committed by somebody in prosecutors office
Just Kim, I agree, you wrapped up my thoughts on this very well. Murder, but a very very premeditated and planned to confuse murder. Could be someone with a lot of power.
Sure. He cancelled that $30,000 loan app and came up with $10,000 in cash totally because he didn’t steal that money. He probably found it near that creek in Pennsylvania and went back there to look for more.
He wasn't exactly a kid. Married with 2 children. A guy from the hood who did well, but he was involved in some nefarious activity and a procrastinator. Working in the office late and driving off the way he did is a head shaker. God bless his wife and kids. May he RIP🙏
There is significant oversight when working as an attorney at a federal level. Luna likely had numerous bosses and his work scrutinized by many superiors. The fact that he moved quickly from several jobs, his superiors "did not like" his plea agreement(s) suggest there were numerous incidents where they were not happy with work performance. Blowing cases at that level costs the government millions of dollars. Also worth noting was the debt he sustained despite having a wife who was an active physician. He also took a year off at law school, which is unusual, even if a parent had cancer. The night of his demise, when he headed out for his final ride, transpired when he was due in court the next day very early. That is totally irrational. He was likely psychotic because he had to write up a legal writ and he couldnt finish in a timely manner. People often think big time federal positions are easy, but they take brains, commitment and focused scholarship. Its clear that Luna was missing on or more of these components.
Good morning Dr. Grande! I just finished listening to the second season of the To Live and Die in LA podcast, and thought you might be interested in it for an upcoming episode. It’s about a missing 20-year-old girl. What really interested me in it is the mother’s really strange behavior after her daughter goes missing.
Wonderful to be on time and loyal with your audience, I wish we could hear the clapping. Learning and feeling depth to reason is so important, thank you Dr. Grande.
Being a Philly native and having a son that lives in Maryland, it's unusual that this guy took the long way to get to Lancaster County from Baltimore. Route 895 North or 83 North will get you there in less than 2 hours, as Maryland does border Pennsylvania in that area. This guy took 95 North through 3 states. Sounds like he may have been having a psychotic break, cause 95 SUCKS ASS!
i live in delaware and i was thinking the same exact thing. there was literally no obvious reason for him to drive through here and jersey to get to lancaster.
That's absolutely impossible I think about this case all the time there's no way he did this to himself it was an inside job why would he stab his own genital area I mean come on
@@2300enduserperson1 From Philly area also. Some people do just prefer 95, my grandfather was like that, whereas my Mom thought he was out of his mid, so maybe just a case of that here? Or, maybe ot, this case is very strange for sure.
I'm really enjoying this. For some reason, I believe he was abducted at the office. If he was going to meet someone, he would have taken his phone. If he had to drive to all of those locations, I believe he would have taken his glasses to drive at night. Did they check his blood for alcohol or drugs? I know women would kick a man in his testicles but a man would too if he wanted him to have pain, Sounds to me that he was abducted and tortured. It could have been the people he was trying to work a deal for, the boss, or even his wife. Was there a video at his job to see if he left the building alone? Was there a camera in any of the intersections he drove by or on the atm? Did they test his clothing for hair or any other item that could identify someone else? Were there fingerprints on the penknife or in the car, or even outside the car? Who was the last person to email, text, or call him? I have so many questions about this case. How many of the bottles of water were drunk and were there fingerprints. Geez, wish I would have had to investigate as an occupation lol. I like this!
Drop the pen knife may be my favorite line from all of your videos! Thank you for making my day more enjoyable, Dr. Grande and thank you for doing cases that haven’t been touched on a gazillion times!
It always scares me when there are stories of people that appear to be doing fine and having it all but then go off the rails for some reason. I can not help but wonder what made that happen.
I remember reading about this when it happened. I’ve been waiting all these years for someone to talk about it. It seemed so curious to me but I do agree with your theory (#2). Thank you.
@@hannahcabana5403 It doesn't matter. People react to what they see, and they don't see the Filipino. To look at him, you would not know about the Filipino heritage unless you knew his background - he just looks like a light - skinned Black Dude. So no, it really doesn't matter.
@@hannahcabana5403 Define Black. Believe it or not, we actually come in skin Shades from pretty nearly white to very deep. Some of us are so light - skinned that we were able to pass for White back in the day. What you _think_ Black is isn't all there is.
This. I think he picked up a prostitute and she or he killed him, potentially out of self defense. The genital bruising could be him repeatedly trying to force himself on someone and they said no at some point and he had ‘already paid.’ Or small cuts is his kink, like being burned with candle wax, and someone accidentally cut too deep and then fled. Who knows. But doing that type of damage to yourself, while driving? Seems harder to believe to me personally.
@@msmellowmood84 my initial comment was deleted by I don’t know who, so it just proves my theory. His genitals was bruised because he was exposing a child predator ring with some major federal players involved. Since he was exposing what they were doing with their genitals, they attacked his while murdering him.
@@somethingelse4424 And… anyway I’m not reading all of that…. I got my info from an article that was posted online years ago. Google search is your friend. Good night. Don’t @ me.
THAT’s where I heard about this case: Casefile! Thank you, Dr Grande for covering it too. I do think it suspicious that he left so much in his office. That is why I think he was held hostage in his own car/two cars. Tricky one!
I worked with his brother David back in the late 90s/early 2000s when this went down. He was quiet, never missed a day of work and never spoke about the incident.
Good morning from New Zealand Dr T. Could you analyse the current case of Jessica Lynch. Body hidden in a loft at the MBTA Station. Boston. Great to see you!
I have to listen to this again. My first thought would be to look at his boss. But the two tanks of gas suggests a long trip. But $200 wouldn't go far. Maybe he met a he/she and the negotiations fell through in the woods. News is reporting his throat was also slit. Very sad ending for this young professional. Sometimes we just need time to get a grip on our lives and to mature. He unfortunately didn't get this chance.🙁
Strange anyone would think this suicide when there was someone else's blood in the car, and he was in his suit. Also, hard to believe anyone would stab themselves, esp 36 X. You'd slash, you wouldn't stab, nor inflict cranial damage, and place yourself under the engine.. I wonder about the FBI who claimed it was - perhaps there was a big weekend ahead. Given the weapon and the probability he used it before it was taken off him my thoughts turn to a pimp. Regarding the locus, it wouldn't have to be the sight of the attack. He might have driven from his assailant and died elsewhere
Whoever the killers was, was a very clever person. I think Jonathan was familiar with his killer(s), and he was not suspicious of them. I think his killer(s) cadually asked Jonathan to get the gas because they didn't want to get out of the car and be seen on the security cameras at the gas station, and they knew they had to drive far away after they killed him. The whole thing was a setup by his boss and covered up by the FBI.
Very interesting. When I was a Police Officer, I responded to a few suicides (after the fact, of course), and when someone uses a blade to cut their throat or wrists, there are always a few, or several, superficial cuts that were made before the coup de grace, in my experience, as you mentioned here.
@@erikparent8176 Thank YOU! It was my pleasure. 5 years US Army Combat Military Police, 5 years civilian Police Officer. Had the chance to do some good for society. It's NICE to be APPRECIATED! 🙂👍
When I see bad driving in NJ, the plates are from Penn. as often as not. Maybe they THINK they'll fit in by driving poorly, just as people newly arrived to NYC think they will fit in by acting rude.
My mom used to quote"It's not the hopping over hurdles that hurts the horses hoves! It's the hammer, hammer, hammer on the hard highway! Once someone has reached a certain level through hard work and goal achievement the let down of the everyday humdrum and the often times unfair expectations of psycho bosses can break a good person who may seek excitement or stimulation in immoral or illegal outlets! This seems to me to often happen to overachievers!
Amén. Just don’t go to the High Note bar by any means. There are other ways to regulate your emotions. 🏖🏖🏝🏝🏖🏖(ie WAtch 10* a la grande * videos to ease stress..)
Sure would like to know what happened to Ray Gricar, the DA in Centre County PA who disappeared April 15, 2005. Some think his disappearance is connected to this Luna case.
The Saguaro Cactus is back, in the lower right hand corner. Just a reminder I'm not diagnosing any Saguaro Cactus in this video, only speculating about a Saguaro Cactus that just happens to look like an oversized sex toy like this.
Dr. Grande, what about Kenneth Ravenell? It sounds like he would have had a strong motive in this case and is alleged to be a corrupt defense attorney, recently indicted on numerous federal charges.
This case is crazy in many ways with more than one answer to the question" who killed this guy??" I'm going to have to split my answer. I am going against the popular answer. So 60/40 that he was murdered or hurt and then fell into the creek. These are getting harder to provide a good answer.😬💙🇨🇦💙🍩🥧
That’s such a puzzling case, I am on the fence with this one. The humor was very subtle, yet on point.😅😁 Urgh, I have no counter augment regarding NJ drivers.😒 Thank you for the review and I hope you have a great weekend.❤️ BTW, I love the diagonal arrangement of the plants, it’s so very pleasing to the eyes.🌵👌🏼
@@levondelite4072Thank you for your comment!😃 I always scan the area at the beginning of each video. I am not particularly good with decor but that’s just a habit of mine.😉
Yeah, it seems more likely, but not enough detail there. They looked at the surveillance tape, so that seems like someone would have noticed a person hanging around needing help. I wonder how much exactly was the cost of each. Was he trying to just split the cost on two different cards ... he had 16 of them?
I am wondering if he just wanted to buy both an extra can of gas & soda anticipating a longer drive! It could be one of many things running through his head.
@@f.4588 That would have been easy to ascertain, and it wouldn't be a mystery. I don't think it's clear if he had any gas cans. I thought the same thing at first. Even if he did, then where are the cans of gas and soda?
I give weight to the possibility of the multiple withdrawals, being forced on him, or his attempt to be seen. I think that he wanted to be picked up on camera, at the toll booth.
I'm honestly glad you ( Dr Grande) didn't say Jonathan mother was African American, instead you said she was Black ( American) I for one can appreciate this..... To be called you're someone you're not, can be extremely frustrating..... My great great great grandparents were American, ( honestly that's the furthest I've went back in my family history).... So thank you ❤️😌 Your dry humor is pretty hilarious 😄 also...... Haha
I hope somehow that this case gets solved. Jonathan deserves justice. He really appears to be a genuine and successful man that had his life taken way too soon
Ah, yes. Humor drier than my morning toast, and I love it. I believe it's more likely an accidental suicide. He wanted to appear beaten and bloody but took it too far, lost consciousness and drowned. Great content as always Dr.!
I thought that too. Only thing is I feel like the medical examiner should’ve been able to tell if the wounds were self-inflicted, but what do I know lol. I also can’t picture any guy, even a mentally ill person in crisis, hitting their own balls so hard it leaves bruising. It’s all so bizarre!!
The purchase of 2 tanks of gas and 2 sodas could have been fraud by the person taking the payment. Was it done by credit card? I had a store clerk attempt to do that to me once. This is a very mysterious case. Thanks for covering it so well.
Lunas Body was found 5 minutes from where I live, and I drive past that spot almost every day… I highly doubt that location was ever used for people to meet up for sex
This is my first time happening upon your channel, and i very much appreciate how well you summarize the story, and your professionalism and analysis of theories is an exceptional addition to True Crime television. Most hosts come from a more casual disposition, so it is refreshing _in a cool nerdy way_ to get your pov. thX★ *i will keep wAtChing*
Jonathon was a friend, he was murdered. he was a wonderful person a special person. Thank you for taking an interest. My heart still aches that someone so caring and loving suffered so much. Bullshit regarding debts all lies.
Read the Midnight Ride of Jonathon Luna. They were not in overwhelming debt. A, his was a paediatrician he was an attorney. They lived a modest life. Perhaps he was lured out of his office. Perhaps he wasn’t the one who was driving. J was always calm and collected. He had no reason to kill himself.
I actually feel for this guy all he went through as a young man regardless of regardless of how it turned out in the end the fact that he stayed home to take care of his dad outweigh outweigh anything else that he probably ever did bad in his life. at least to me
I’m gonna have to disagree with Dr. Grande on this one. It just seems too difficult for someone with no history of cutting / self harm to stab himself dozens of times and punch himself in the balls. I think he probably hired a prostitute to try to help deal with the stress in his life. Something went wrong, the prostitute feared for her life and punched or kicked him in the balls. This incapacitated him enough for her to grab his knife and stab him multiple times until he was almost dead, then she wiped the knife and ran off.
Agreed, the pattern of injuries does not seem to be self inflicted. It fits more with Luna having picked up someone, maybe a prostitute. He/she feels threatened at some point, attacks Luna, Luna pulls out the small knife. The attacker gets the knife off Luna, cuts and stabs him, eventually hits the artery. The attacker wipes the knife clean and leaves Luna to die. Seems the most plausible series of events. Tragic case.
I also agree. The defensive wounds on his hands, possible cuts on his genitals, another person's blood present, and genital bruising? Plus, 2 sodas, 2 tanks of gas? Sounds like murder to me.
Great analysis Dr Grande. If I had to pick a theory it would be # 2. I believe this mans life was so out of control, he put an end too his life. Thank you Dr Grande .
I remember being shocked and saddened by this case as I lived near Elkridge at the time. I read about it in the Baltimore Sun. It was all so mysterious and don’t remember there being any follow up or true closure. Thanks for your analysis.
I would love a dyatlov pass video! Just a reminder I am not diagnosing that I would love it just speculating on how I would feel in a situation like this.
Alright Dr. Grande, this is the THIRD snide remark about Jersey drivers. Let's see how many you can get. I've got my eye on you... Sincerely, a New Jersey driver.
Dr. Grande - I’d love to get your take on Richard Nixon. He had so many innate gifts and achieved so much, but ended up disgraced by his own actions. I’m also fascinated by the men who supported and enabled Nixon’s criminality - why did they do it? Thanks!
@@20FreeWill The tapes provide proof that he attempted to subvert justice on multiple occasions during the coverup. He tried to get the CIA to shut down the justice department investigation and he discussed the amount of hush money paid to the burglars themselves, among others. While we can’t know if he ordered the break-in, he certainly knew about the “plumbers” and at least some of their criminal acts. (He can be heard on tape reacting to their use of blackmail - he was surprised, but didn’t tell them to stop.)
@@20FreeWill I’m sorry, I don’t understand your question. By compromised do you mean framed? As far as I know he never claimed that. By higher power do you mean God? Even if the Lord told him to him to do it (which I highly doubt), he would still have to face the consequences of his actions in this world.
@@auntielaura5 No I mean a corrupted deep government, the people who really push the buttons , the Bushes , the bankers, CIA etc . The President doesn't only represent himself , he may be the President but in reality probably isnt the most powerful person in his party.
If you can find enough relevant information, please consider doing a video about the disappearance of Tracy Kroh in 1989. Her disappearance used to be talked about a lot more closer to when she went missing, but unfortunately there isn’t much recent media attention. Great video as always!
I enjoy your videos and how professional you are explaining methodically about the cases and your analysis. That’s why when you use sarcasm to make a point it’s jarring. You don’t need to do that. You are very good at this.
Your jokes are always on point! Took me a second to catch the lack of glasses and fitting in with New Jersey drivers but that had me cracking up. Another great video as always!
I can't see see someone cutting themselves 30 times and cutting his own artery by accident, nope, injured testicle happen in a fight, then drowned in a river by... chance ?! it's just weird to me that people would want to think this was self inflicted. Probably he was going off the rails that put him in a bad situation, but the self inflicted theory is just weird.
I have researched this case and i believe that this was an inside job
@@joannajamerson35 exactly.
I agree with you 100%
They found wounds consistent with self harm. Suicide is a very unnatural act and he was working up the courage. When it comes to his testicles then ask his wife or the many partners he found online. The guy was probably kinky.
@@SP-qo3pd Cool, I have hard opinions on nothing anymore because of the half information given and there are just weird things that happen with billions of people.
“A pen knife is usually considered relatively safe. For example, we don’t see a lot of pen knife running biker gangs or hear police officers yelling: drop the pen knife.” 🤣😂. Love Dr. Grande’s dry humour 😂😂😂🙈
Why would Luna stab his own private area
That is hilarious.
In the middle of a very serious and sad story I find myself laughing at his dry humor!! Drop that pen knife said the policeman 👮♂️ 🤣😂
Basically it was a competition to see who could inflict the most extreme/painful acts of self mutilation and it usually involved male genitalia... a couple guys actually cut their wobbly bits off.
My point is a lot of people have stabbed themselves in the dick 😂
the fact a second person's blood was found in the car makes me doubt it was a suicide
Dang, the DA's office OK'd leaving the actual CASH in those containers??? You are right Dr Grande, ANYONE could have snagged that container. This is sad because I have a feeling no one will PROPERLY investgate this incident.
I lived in Baltimore at the time. It was investigated. Maryland State Police. FBI. It just didn't go anywhere.
Said the perpetrator…
It was probably his prick of a boss. But he was a prosecutor, so it could have been a revenge kill. His wallet and money were intact so it was probably personal, regardless unless a hooker was defending her or himself.
I don’t know how hard that could possibly be?
@@iwatchbaywatch-notyourmoth1568 I was a college student in burbs back then. What little I know comes from my neighbor down the hall... who was an MSP detective had to work a thirty seven hour shift on the case.
@@jessewilley531 wow interesting.. if he was bleeding out I thought the collapse drown thing sounded outrageous - but if he was minutes away from death it’s possible they were all self inflicted and he stumbled his way to the creek in a feet of desperate thirst - hearing that before one dies asking for water extreme thirst is a tell they’re about to go
You've been insanely consistent with your videos. I have no idea how you find the time to film and upload daily videos, but it's super impressive. Keep it up doc!!
I got it. My Philly parents always used to complain about Jersey drivers...until they moved to Jersey.
Sorry, replied to the wrong comment.
@@marshdweller01 xD
It's not hard to hire a research team
@@alexJohnson9119 apparently not hard to be an ass either, as you have demonstrated.
I. Still sticking with Pennsylvania M.E. Office. Money been missing from Baltimore before, and even the judge that Mr. Luna appeared in front of that day said, he drove a long way to commit suicide. His wife was a physician, they were fine with money. The sex b.s. online was another person, not this Luna. However, I’m not sure we will ever know. I feel bad for his family. His wife never talked publicly, and I understand that.
"He left his office without his glasses which he needed to drive, but he may have had another pair in his vehicle or he just decided to drive poorly. He would end up driving through New Jersey; maybe he was just trying to fit in." As usual Dr. Grande’s deadpan delivery only adds to the severity of the burn! Take that, drivers of NJ!🔥
I had to run that back to catch it. I laughed SO HARD
I normally wear glasses when I drive, but if I left them behind, I still could drive. The only difference is I wouldn't be able tread signs until I'm up close, but I could still see everything, but not as clearly with my glasses.
Yes this was a crazy burn, and you'd never notice that it went down if you were just looking at him talk. Even listening closely it blends right in, and almost sounds like some scientific point.
Dr. G really despises NJ! 😂😂
@@polarvortex3294 he's so deadpan when he says his jokes....like they're matter of fact. Fucking hilarious!
I’m leaning towards a homicide as the reason for his demise.
The scattered money in the car, bad parking, engine still running, a drop of someone else’s blood, partial palm print?, two tanks of gas, two sodas, a toll ticket when he had “easy pass”, bruised testicles, 36 slashes with a pen knife and drowning in shallow water.
It sounds like someone was driving in tandem with him for some reason, at a private spot they stopped and a struggle broke out. The money was scattered during a tussle and he may have tried to defend himself with the penknife and it was wrestled away from him and he was slashed at, out of the car he may have been kicked in the groin area and then held down with his face in the water?
This seems very likely
Yes! You are right once again! There may be several unknowns in this case, but one thing we know for sure, is that he was a victim of a horrible investigation! ❤️
Didn't doctor Grande say there was somone elses blood in the car or am i mistaken?
That's some fishy business! 🐟🐠🎣
And a partial print. Sounds like another party caused his death. Hesitation cuts......sounds like may be a female?
That's exactly what he said. Therefore the theory he chose as the most plausible can't be correct.
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Facts!
He tortured himself before he killed himself ? Dude was murdered!
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Thank you Dr Grande. Learning with you is the best way to start a day.
Mr. Luna seemed like such a genuinely nice and hardworking man, he didn't deserve all the stressors he had to deal with prior to the incident with him getting reprimanded at work. Sad.
That’s psychological harassement to get his démission
@@LaGamyne Exactly. Poor guy.
Many such cases
Well he appeared to have discipline problems. Infidelity and running up credit cards.
@@jasonmichael3676 That doesn't take anything away from his character had he been a good person. You know how many middle class families are running up credit cards to keep up with the Jones' while one or both spouses are creeping around? He was a young, black, aspiring attorney. From the time he was wearing suits in high school, you can tell that his personal image was important to him.
I'm mixed, and I'm from a small white southern town. The difference in treatment I got when I wore full suits was astounding. I simply wore them to have an easier day. So its no wonder he's running up credit cards when he's around rich, powerful people. It's a crushingly insecure feeling to be black and poor around rich men with power. They don't want that image around them, and you don't want it around you, either. So you pretend. You run up cards and hope your hard work will let you pay it off eventually. He just got unlucky and clashed with his boss, who should have been his ticket to his dreams. Sad, really.
High Note! Nice one, Dr. Grande! This case has intrigued me for a while. Thank you for highlighting it!
I liked both the "High Note" and the NJ drivers comment about trying to fit in.
So sad. He had been such a good kid and had been straight as an arrow on his career path. I feel for him.
I knew someone who "fell in" to stealing from a remotely audited routine work cash flow . . . eventually it caught up with him and he remarked that he had developed the (hmmm, was it "worst possible" or "easiest" ? ) addiction of all . . . an addiction for money. The price tag for being seduced by the sirens of life are rarely initially apparent. Wikipedia : In Greek mythology, the sirens were dangerous creatures, who lured nearby sailors with their enchanting music and singing voices to shipwreck on the rocky coast of their island." . . . in this case it was perhaps a muddy creek ! :-/
...until he stole $36,000 from the state. It is not normal to bring cash into court as evidence like that, the fact that any of it went missing makes pretty obvious that the prosecutor who initiated it was involved in the theft.
@@maxwellschneiter he must'a just watched "Miracle on 34th Street" where the evidence is bags and bags and bags of U.S. mail . . . nothing will persuade the jury like a quick roll in the dough ! B-)
@@crochunter35 one can still feel empathy for what a dead person dealt with while alive.
@@maxwellschneiter could the money have been brought in for dramatic effect? Don't they bring evidence to court? Though I agree it is risky.
The NJ driving comment was so subtle, I’m sure no one from NJ noticed. Rest assured those of us from the South did.
As someone who's experiences multiple rude NC and SC drivers, I'm ready to argue
(I'm not)
(I'm teasing)
Dr. Grande says things about nj every third episode. It's part of his shtick. Funny, as he's from Delaware, the 'nothing to see here state'. 😆
Haha I came to the comment section looking for this comment! 😂 . Dr Grande was so smooth and subtle with that NJ jab.
I got it. My Philly parents always used to complain about Jersey drivers...until they moved to Jersey.
@@mimisezlol As a North Carolinian, when I see a tag from Virginia, I try to get away from them asap.
Sad ending for someone who started well.
When I get into bed it’s off to TH-cam to watch the latest Dr. Grande. I love listening to your voice as you explain these cases!
Oh the Luna case! This is a pretty interesting one. I'm glad you covered this.
As soon as I heard that New Jersey was involved, I was waiting for a driving joke. Dr Grande never disappoints.
I'm just gonna say...the kid was set up by his boss (when the money went missing). Such a shame. Some people suck.
This young man was too pure for where his career took him. There is so much corruption in DC, at the FTC and in the AG's offices. He seemed like the type of man who genuinely wanted to do the right thing and he probably crossed some bad people in his career.
Probably a hit. Easily covered up because it was most likely committed by somebody in prosecutors office
Pure? Satisfying? Wholesome? Gen X speech. 😝
Agree. Best comment
Just Kim, I agree, you wrapped up my thoughts on this very well. Murder, but a very very premeditated and planned to confuse murder. Could be someone with a lot of power.
Sure. He cancelled that $30,000 loan app and came up with $10,000 in cash totally because he didn’t steal that money. He probably found it near that creek in Pennsylvania and went back there to look for more.
He wasn't exactly a kid. Married with 2 children. A guy from the hood who did well, but he was involved in some nefarious activity and a procrastinator. Working in the office late and driving off the way he did is a head shaker. God bless his wife and kids. May he RIP🙏
I sense his boss may have something to do with his troubles. This case is a sad and unusual one. RIP Jonathan Luna.
maybe the boss was the one who stole it
The boss should be investigated!
Absolutely agree!
There is significant oversight when working as an attorney at a federal level. Luna likely had numerous bosses and his work scrutinized by many superiors. The fact that he moved quickly from several jobs, his superiors "did not like" his plea agreement(s) suggest there were numerous incidents where they were not happy with work performance. Blowing cases at that level costs the government millions of dollars. Also worth noting was the debt he sustained despite having a wife who was an active physician. He also took a year off at law school, which is unusual, even if a parent had cancer. The night of his demise, when he headed out for his final ride, transpired when he was due in court the next day very early. That is totally irrational. He was likely psychotic because he had to write up a legal writ and he couldnt finish in a timely manner. People often think big time federal positions are easy, but they take brains, commitment and focused scholarship. Its clear that Luna was missing on or more of these components.
@@rayr4320 and again, his bosses had something to do with his death.
Good morning Dr. Grande! I just finished listening to the second season of the To Live and Die in LA podcast, and thought you might be interested in it for an upcoming episode. It’s about a missing 20-year-old girl. What really interested me in it is the mother’s really strange behavior after her daughter goes missing.
What’s the persons name?
@@jamesa6080 Elaine Park-she disappeared near Calabasas, CA
Wonderful to be on time and loyal with your audience, I wish we could hear the clapping. Learning and feeling depth to reason is so important, thank you Dr. Grande.
My Shukras vibrate with Dr Grandes intonations
You find the most interesting cases to highlight. So interesting! I really love your content. Keep up the outstanding work. I never miss a video!
Thank you for another great analysis Dr. Cactus
Yes!👩⚕🌵
Being a Philly native and having a son that lives in Maryland, it's unusual that this guy took the long way to get to Lancaster County from Baltimore. Route 895 North or 83 North will get you there in less than 2 hours, as Maryland does border Pennsylvania in that area. This guy took 95 North through 3 states. Sounds like he may have been having a psychotic break, cause 95 SUCKS ASS!
Yes! Details matter! This guy drove an hour out of his way either for a specific reason, or like you stated, he had a break with reality.
i live in delaware and i was thinking the same exact thing. there was literally no obvious reason for him to drive through here and jersey to get to lancaster.
That's absolutely impossible I think about this case all the time there's no way he did this to himself it was an inside job why would he stab his own genital area I mean come on
@@2300enduserperson1 From Philly area also. Some people do just prefer 95, my grandfather was like that, whereas my Mom thought he was out of his mid, so maybe just a case of that here? Or, maybe ot, this case is very strange for sure.
I'm really enjoying this. For some reason, I believe he was abducted at the office. If he was going to meet someone, he would have taken his phone. If he had to drive to all of those locations, I believe he would have taken his glasses to drive at night. Did they check his blood for alcohol or drugs? I know women would kick a man in his testicles but a man would too if he wanted him to have pain, Sounds to me that he was abducted and tortured. It could have been the people he was trying to work a deal for, the boss, or even his wife. Was there a video at his job to see if he left the building alone? Was there a camera in any of the intersections he drove by or on the atm? Did they test his clothing for hair or any other item that could identify someone else? Were there fingerprints on the penknife or in the car, or even outside the car? Who was the last person to email, text, or call him? I have so many questions about this case. How many of the bottles of water were drunk and were there fingerprints. Geez, wish I would have had to investigate as an occupation lol. I like this!
Sounds like you're on the right track. I think he pulled the penknife on whoever was with him, and they took it from him.
@@cdorman11 Great assessment and thanks.
A man died.
I think it was his boss that killed him
Sound he was like jumped ! Got kicked in the nuts
Drop the pen knife may be my favorite line from all of your videos! Thank you for making my day more enjoyable, Dr. Grande and thank you for doing cases that haven’t been touched on a gazillion times!
Nice! Gazillion!
It always scares me when there are stories of people that appear to be doing fine and having it all but then go off the rails for some reason. I can not help but wonder what made that happen.
The key word is "appear." They are not necessarily doing fine, it just appears that way to the outside world.
They play it cool in front of the world, but they have a lot of skeletons in their closet.
You must be confused a lot since it's clear he was murdered.
I remember reading about this when it happened. I’ve been waiting all these years for someone to talk about it. It seemed so curious to me but I do agree with your theory (#2). Thank you.
brother tried his best to crawl out of the projects to the top and still ended up shanked.
White men for ya can’t stand a brother at the top; offed by his own people..🥴
He's part Filipino and part black.
@@hannahcabana5403 It doesn't matter.
People react to what they see, and they don't see the Filipino.
To look at him, you would not know about the Filipino heritage unless you knew his background - he just looks like a light - skinned Black Dude.
So no, it really doesn't matter.
@@aheimdahl5201 The filipino in him is so loud and clear, he hardly looks black. I thought he was just a dark Asian
@@hannahcabana5403 Define Black.
Believe it or not, we actually come in skin Shades from pretty nearly white to very deep.
Some of us are so light - skinned that we were able to pass for White back in the day.
What you _think_ Black is isn't all there is.
Nobody "slashes" themselves 36 times, when ONE cut in the right place(self-inflicted) gets the job done hands down
This. I think he picked up a prostitute and she or he killed him, potentially out of self defense. The genital bruising could be him repeatedly trying to force himself on someone and they said no at some point and he had ‘already paid.’ Or small cuts is his kink, like being burned with candle wax, and someone accidentally cut too deep and then fled. Who knows. But doing that type of damage to yourself, while driving? Seems harder to believe to me personally.
@@msmellowmood84 my initial comment was deleted by I don’t know who, so it just proves my theory. His genitals was bruised because he was exposing a child predator ring with some major federal players involved. Since he was exposing what they were doing with their genitals, they attacked his while murdering him.
And NO ONE hits themselves in the genitals
@@somethingelse4424 And… anyway I’m not reading all of that…. I got my info from an article that was posted online years ago. Google search is your friend. Good night. Don’t @ me.
@@somethingelse4424 bye bxtch 🙃
THAT’s where I heard about this case: Casefile!
Thank you, Dr Grande for covering it too.
I do think it suspicious that he left so much in his office. That is why I think he was held hostage in his own car/two cars.
Tricky one!
I worked with his brother David back in the late 90s/early 2000s when this went down. He was quiet, never missed a day of work and never spoke about the incident.
This case has always bothered me. I was trying to rememver his name a few weeks ago.
Good morning from New Zealand Dr T. Could you analyse the current case of Jessica Lynch. Body hidden in a loft at the MBTA Station. Boston. Great to see you!
I have to listen to this again. My first thought would be to look at his boss. But the two tanks of gas suggests a long trip. But $200 wouldn't go far. Maybe he met a he/she and the negotiations fell through in the woods. News is reporting his throat was also slit. Very sad ending for this young professional. Sometimes we just need time to get a grip on our lives and to mature. He unfortunately didn't get this chance.🙁
This case fascinated me when it happened and still does.
Strange anyone would think this suicide when there was someone else's blood in the car, and he was in his suit. Also, hard to believe anyone would stab themselves, esp 36 X. You'd slash, you wouldn't stab, nor inflict cranial damage, and place yourself under the engine.. I wonder about the FBI who claimed it was - perhaps there was a big weekend ahead. Given the weapon and the probability he used it before it was taken off him my thoughts turn to a pimp. Regarding the locus, it wouldn't have to be the sight of the attack. He might have driven from his assailant and died elsewhere
36 stabs for 36k dollars
weird for sure.
How does 1 guy with 1 vehicle purchase and pump 2 tanks of gas if he was alone?
Was all that gas pumped?
Whoever the killers was, was a very clever person. I think Jonathan was familiar with his killer(s), and he was not suspicious of them.
I think his killer(s) cadually asked Jonathan to get the gas because they didn't want to get out of the car and be seen on the security cameras at the gas station, and they knew they had to drive far away after they killed him.
The whole thing was a setup by his boss and covered up by the FBI.
Very interesting.
When I was a Police Officer, I responded to a few suicides (after the fact, of course), and when someone uses a blade to cut their throat or wrists, there are always a few, or several, superficial cuts that were made before the coup de grace, in my experience, as you mentioned here.
Thanks for your service Nick!
Somtimes police officers get a bum rap! 🤝🚔👍
@@erikparent8176 Thank YOU! It was my pleasure.
5 years US Army Combat Military Police, 5 years civilian Police Officer. Had the chance to do some good for society.
It's NICE to be APPRECIATED! 🙂👍
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@@NickvonZ thank you for your continued service ^-^
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“He had to drive through New Jersey. Maybe he was just trying to fit in.”
When I see bad driving in NJ, the plates are from Penn. as often as not. Maybe they THINK they'll fit in by driving poorly, just as people newly arrived to NYC think they will fit in by acting rude.
My mom used to quote"It's not the hopping over hurdles that hurts the horses hoves! It's the hammer, hammer, hammer on the hard highway! Once someone has reached a certain level through hard work and goal achievement the let down of the everyday humdrum and the often times unfair expectations of psycho bosses can break a good person who may seek excitement or stimulation in immoral or illegal outlets! This seems to me to often happen to overachievers!
Amén. Just don’t go to the High Note bar by any means. There are other ways to regulate your emotions. 🏖🏖🏝🏝🏖🏖(ie WAtch 10* a la grande * videos to ease stress..)
Bill - Best advice! 💎
That's a fantastic analogy
Wow this is the earliest I've ever been on a Dr. Grande video(3mins)! Feeling strangely proud of myself 😆
What an interesting case. Happy Friday & Thanks Dr G😊❤💜
What a sad story. I wonder what the wife thinks happen
Great video Dr Grande!!!
Sure would like to know what happened to Ray Gricar, the DA in Centre County PA who disappeared April 15, 2005. Some think his disappearance is connected to this Luna case.
I think that was a suicide.
The Saguaro Cactus is back, in the lower right hand corner. Just a reminder I'm not diagnosing any Saguaro Cactus in this video, only speculating about a Saguaro Cactus that just happens to look like an oversized sex toy like this.
That explains his nickname of "Spikey Prick".
@@eadweard. I didn't know that was his name! Thanks, that pulls it all together!
That was my first thought when I saw the little American cactus 😂 my brain only saw the blue and not the rest of it and my mind went somewhere else 😂😂
@@Jess-db3gi My mind is almost always somewhere else--My mind is almost always in the gutter; But the rent is so cheap I can't resist.
Seems there is always an adult corner of comments! Thankfully they are usually kept pretty tame!🐇🐣🐁🐣🐀
Loving the daily content. Thanks Dr. G.
Ending the week on a High Note!
Snoop Dog and Seth Rogan want in!
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So glad to be early "in a situation like this".
Dr. Grande, what about Kenneth Ravenell? It sounds like he would have had a strong motive in this case and is alleged to be a corrupt defense attorney, recently indicted on numerous federal charges.
Tip for Dr. Grande - when you give your disclaimer about “not diagnosing anyone,” wink three times at the camera.
Ok, TH-cam can close their servers for the rest of the day. No comment can beat yours 😉😉😉
It’s actually a good thing that he doesn’t diagnose people
Well, it’s a good thing that he isn’t diagnosing me.
This case is crazy in many ways with more than one answer to the question" who killed this guy??" I'm going to have to split my answer. I am going against the popular answer. So 60/40 that he was murdered or hurt and then fell into the creek. These are getting harder to provide a good answer.😬💙🇨🇦💙🍩🥧
@@Kilaueaorph4n Agreed! 😂😂😂
Well if a doctor and a lawyer can’t make ends meet financially then nobody can.
There professional school debts
& two children is extremely costly.
And you would trust the US Attorneys office? I’m betting Jonathan was a scapegoat. He probably wouldn’t play ball.
But if another person's blood was found on the scene then it can't possibly be suicide, so your theory isn't plausible
If there was other blood there, it could have been old. Luna could've had a passenger with a cut finger, for instance. It does seem odd, though.
"HIGH NOTE!" THANK YOU Dr Grande for this interesting analysis.
That’s such a puzzling case, I am on the fence with this one.
The humor was very subtle, yet on point.😅😁
Urgh, I have no counter augment regarding NJ drivers.😒
Thank you for the review and I hope you have a great weekend.❤️
BTW, I love the diagonal arrangement of the plants, it’s so very pleasing to the eyes.🌵👌🏼
Rejane;how come I didn't notice the plants ?lol.
@@cottontails9003 😄😁
@@levondelite4072Thank you for your comment!😃 I always scan the area at the beginning of each video. I am not particularly good with decor but that’s just a habit of mine.😉
Another interesting video from Grande.
"High note."
This is the kind of quality quip I'm bingeing this channel for.
Love how the black Filipino man was accused of the money going missing and how not really anyone else was considered as strongly.
Speak on it! (In other words I agree with you lol)
His boss and the FBI hated him
Well... The money was under his custody so... You have to accuse someone
Way to make it about race
"We don't hear about those penknife wielding biker gangs "
Gotta love those white hot but super cold Grande burns
Maybe there was someone at the gas station that needed help, and he paid to fill up their tank. What a strange story.
Yep. A friend of mine was bi-polar and when he was particularly stressed would offer to pay for stranger's groceries.
Yeah, it seems more likely, but not enough detail there. They looked at the surveillance tape, so that seems like someone would have noticed a person hanging around needing help.
I wonder how much exactly was the cost of each. Was he trying to just split the cost on two different cards ... he had 16 of them?
I am wondering if he just wanted to buy both an extra can of gas & soda anticipating a longer drive! It could be one of many things running through his head.
@@f.4588 That would have been easy to ascertain, and it wouldn't be a mystery. I don't think it's clear if he had any gas cans.
I thought the same thing at first.
Even if he did, then where are the cans of gas and soda?
Clarissa, I thought the same thing, that he was helping someone at that gas station.
I give weight to the possibility of the multiple withdrawals, being forced on him, or his attempt to be seen. I think that he wanted to be picked up on camera, at the toll booth.
I'm honestly glad you ( Dr Grande) didn't say Jonathan mother was African American, instead you said she was Black ( American) I for one can appreciate this..... To be called you're someone you're not, can be extremely frustrating..... My great great great grandparents were American, ( honestly that's the furthest I've went back in my family history).... So thank you ❤️😌
Your dry humor is pretty hilarious 😄 also...... Haha
Where do you stand on the copper coloured theory?
I hope somehow that this case gets solved. Jonathan deserves justice. He really appears to be a genuine and successful man that had his life taken way too soon
Everything about this case sounds suspicious! Like someone set him up.
RIP JONATHAN LUNA 🙏
Picking on my old home state of New Jersey once again......I love it!! That music store "High Note" is actually in downtown Newark!! :> ) Jim C.
He didn't mention Newark. He's from Delaware, so he gets a pass. ; )
Ah, yes. Humor drier than my morning toast, and I love it. I believe it's more likely an accidental suicide. He wanted to appear beaten and bloody but took it too far, lost consciousness and drowned. Great content as always Dr.!
Try apple butter it's nice this time of year!
I thought that too. Only thing is I feel like the medical examiner should’ve been able to tell if the wounds were self-inflicted, but what do I know lol. I also can’t picture any guy, even a mentally ill person in crisis, hitting their own balls so hard it leaves bruising. It’s all so bizarre!!
The purchase of 2 tanks of gas and 2 sodas could have been fraud by the person taking the payment. Was it done by credit card? I had a store clerk attempt to do that to me once.
This is a very mysterious case. Thanks for covering it so well.
Lunas Body was found 5 minutes from where I live, and I drive past that spot almost every day… I highly doubt that location was ever used for people to meet up for sex
This is my first time happening upon your channel, and i very much appreciate how well you summarize the story, and your professionalism and analysis of theories is an exceptional addition to True Crime television. Most hosts come from a more casual disposition, so it is refreshing _in a cool nerdy way_ to get your pov.
thX★ *i will keep wAtChing*
I remember this Case. Thank You for covering it!
Jonathon was a friend, he was murdered. he was a wonderful person a special person. Thank you for taking an interest. My heart still aches that someone so caring and loving suffered so much. Bullshit regarding debts all lies.
He was never without his glasses.
Read the Midnight Ride of Jonathon Luna. They were not in overwhelming debt. A, his was a paediatrician he was an attorney. They lived a modest life. Perhaps he was lured out of his office. Perhaps he wasn’t the one who was driving. J was always calm and collected. He had no reason to kill himself.
Hrande almost got 1M subs! Congrats Mr Dr sir!
Oh God….I love your analysis. “Penknife gang” 😂
"Drop the pin knife buddy and hand me those tweezers, don't do anything foolish."
I actually feel for this guy all he went through as a young man regardless of regardless of how it turned out in the end the fact that he stayed home to take care of his dad outweigh outweigh anything else that he probably ever did bad in his life. at least to me
What a sad story!
Did you just burn every driver in NJ? Savage!
He has done that many times…😁
High Note! - impressed
Very strange circumstances for a death for sure. But your analysis was very informative as always Dr Grande! Thank you!💖💖
I’m gonna have to disagree with Dr. Grande on this one. It just seems too difficult for someone with no history of cutting / self harm to stab himself dozens of times and punch himself in the balls. I think he probably hired a prostitute to try to help deal with the stress in his life. Something went wrong, the prostitute feared for her life and punched or kicked him in the balls. This incapacitated him enough for her to grab his knife and stab him multiple times until he was almost dead, then she wiped the knife and ran off.
Agreed, the pattern of injuries does not seem to be self inflicted. It fits more with Luna having picked up someone, maybe a prostitute. He/she feels threatened at some point, attacks Luna, Luna pulls out the small knife. The attacker gets the knife off Luna, cuts and stabs him, eventually hits the artery. The attacker wipes the knife clean and leaves Luna to die. Seems the most plausible series of events. Tragic case.
I also agree. The defensive wounds on his hands, possible cuts on his genitals, another person's blood present, and genital bruising? Plus, 2 sodas, 2 tanks of gas? Sounds like murder to me.
Why drive from MD to PA (even risking driving in NJ) for the services of a prostitute? They're everywhere.
Great analysis Dr Grande. If I had to pick a theory it would be # 2. I believe this mans life was so out of control, he put an end too his life. Thank you Dr Grande .
Thank u Dr Grande for everything u do for us I love ur channel and look forward to it openion on things!!
I remember being shocked and saddened by this case as I lived near Elkridge at the time. I read about it in the Baltimore Sun. It was all so mysterious and don’t remember there being any follow up or true closure. Thanks for your analysis.
I pray Mr. Luna has now found the peace that alluded him on earth 🙏💔
I would love a dyatlov pass video! Just a reminder I am not diagnosing that I would love it just speculating on how I would feel in a situation like this.
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Alright Dr. Grande, this is the THIRD snide remark about Jersey drivers. Let's see how many you can get. I've got my eye on you...
Sincerely, a New Jersey driver.
I go to AC a lot by bus from NYC and I have to admit that NJ drivers are scary! I am glad I'm not driving through the NJ turnpike!
Poor guy, one thing is for certain, nothing good happens after 2:00 AM.
Dr. Grande - I’d love to get your take on Richard Nixon. He had so many innate gifts and achieved so much, but ended up disgraced by his own actions. I’m also fascinated by the men who supported and enabled Nixon’s criminality - why did they do it? Thanks!
What are you referring to when you say criminality ?
@@20FreeWill The tapes provide proof that he attempted to subvert justice on multiple occasions during the coverup. He tried to get the CIA to shut down the justice department investigation and he discussed the amount of hush money paid to the burglars themselves, among others. While we can’t know if he ordered the break-in, he certainly knew about the “plumbers” and at least some of their criminal acts. (He can be heard on tape reacting to their use of blackmail - he was surprised, but didn’t tell them to stop.)
@@auntielaura5 is it possible though that he was doing all this at the behest of a higher power or that he was compromised himself ?
@@20FreeWill I’m sorry, I don’t understand your question. By compromised do you mean framed? As far as I know he never claimed that. By higher power do you mean God? Even if the Lord told him to him to do it (which I highly doubt), he would still have to face the consequences of his actions in this world.
@@auntielaura5 No I mean a corrupted deep government, the people who really push the buttons , the Bushes , the bankers, CIA etc . The President doesn't only represent himself , he may be the President but in reality probably isnt the most powerful person in his party.
Interesting video and one worth watching
If you can find enough relevant information, please consider doing a video about the disappearance of Tracy Kroh in 1989. Her disappearance used to be talked about a lot more closer to when she went missing, but unfortunately there isn’t much recent media attention. Great video as always!
This is a mysterious case!! You do a great job of coming up with an explanation… im torn.. idk what happin!
hey dr Grande, could you please analyse the case of dag hammerskjold? UN Secretary General? It may be a tough ask but just wondering. Thanks.
Your punches at NJ are hilarious and completely warranted, hilarious and true.
I enjoy your videos and how professional you are explaining methodically about the cases and your analysis. That’s why when you use sarcasm to make a point it’s jarring. You don’t need to do that. You are very good at this.
Sadly, the comments on this channel makes light of his torture and homicide. It was murder.
Your jokes are always on point! Took me a second to catch the lack of glasses and fitting in with New Jersey drivers but that had me cracking up. Another great video as always!
Wonder if he became entangled with bad actors in one of his cases? You said his boss didn't like some deals he had made.