I can't see see someone cutting themselves 30 times and cutting his own artery by accident, nope, injured testicle happen in a fight, then drowned in a river by... chance ?! it's just weird to me that people would want to think this was self inflicted. Probably he was going off the rails that put him in a bad situation, but the self inflicted theory is just weird.
They found wounds consistent with self harm. Suicide is a very unnatural act and he was working up the courage. When it comes to his testicles then ask his wife or the many partners he found online. The guy was probably kinky.
@@SP-qo3pd Cool, I have hard opinions on nothing anymore because of the half information given and there are just weird things that happen with billions of people.
Dang, the DA's office OK'd leaving the actual CASH in those containers??? You are right Dr Grande, ANYONE could have snagged that container. This is sad because I have a feeling no one will PROPERLY investgate this incident.
It was probably his prick of a boss. But he was a prosecutor, so it could have been a revenge kill. His wallet and money were intact so it was probably personal, regardless unless a hooker was defending her or himself. I don’t know how hard that could possibly be?
@@iwatchbaywatch-notyourmoth1568 I was a college student in burbs back then. What little I know comes from my neighbor down the hall... who was an MSP detective had to work a thirty seven hour shift on the case.
@@jessewilley531 wow interesting.. if he was bleeding out I thought the collapse drown thing sounded outrageous - but if he was minutes away from death it’s possible they were all self inflicted and he stumbled his way to the creek in a feet of desperate thirst - hearing that before one dies asking for water extreme thirst is a tell they’re about to go
Jonathon was a friend, he was murdered. he was a wonderful person a special person. Thank you for taking an interest. My heart still aches that someone so caring and loving suffered so much. Bullshit regarding debts all lies.
Read the Midnight Ride of Jonathon Luna. They were not in overwhelming debt. A, his was a paediatrician he was an attorney. They lived a modest life. Perhaps he was lured out of his office. Perhaps he wasn’t the one who was driving. J was always calm and collected. He had no reason to kill himself.
I. Still sticking with Pennsylvania M.E. Office. Money been missing from Baltimore before, and even the judge that Mr. Luna appeared in front of that day said, he drove a long way to commit suicide. His wife was a physician, they were fine with money. The sex b.s. online was another person, not this Luna. However, I’m not sure we will ever know. I feel bad for his family. His wife never talked publicly, and I understand that.
You've been insanely consistent with your videos. I have no idea how you find the time to film and upload daily videos, but it's super impressive. Keep it up doc!!
I’m leaning towards a homicide as the reason for his demise. The scattered money in the car, bad parking, engine still running, a drop of someone else’s blood, partial palm print?, two tanks of gas, two sodas, a toll ticket when he had “easy pass”, bruised testicles, 36 slashes with a pen knife and drowning in shallow water. It sounds like someone was driving in tandem with him for some reason, at a private spot they stopped and a struggle broke out. The money was scattered during a tussle and he may have tried to defend himself with the penknife and it was wrestled away from him and he was slashed at, out of the car he may have been kicked in the groin area and then held down with his face in the water?
“A pen knife is usually considered relatively safe. For example, we don’t see a lot of pen knife running biker gangs or hear police officers yelling: drop the pen knife.” 🤣😂. Love Dr. Grande’s dry humour 😂😂😂🙈
Basically it was a competition to see who could inflict the most extreme/painful acts of self mutilation and it usually involved male genitalia... a couple guys actually cut their wobbly bits off. My point is a lot of people have stabbed themselves in the dick 😂
Yes! You are right once again! There may be several unknowns in this case, but one thing we know for sure, is that he was a victim of a horrible investigation! ❤️
"He left his office without his glasses which he needed to drive, but he may have had another pair in his vehicle or he just decided to drive poorly. He would end up driving through New Jersey; maybe he was just trying to fit in." As usual Dr. Grande’s deadpan delivery only adds to the severity of the burn! Take that, drivers of NJ!🔥
I normally wear glasses when I drive, but if I left them behind, I still could drive. The only difference is I wouldn't be able tread signs until I'm up close, but I could still see everything, but not as clearly with my glasses.
Yes this was a crazy burn, and you'd never notice that it went down if you were just looking at him talk. Even listening closely it blends right in, and almost sounds like some scientific point.
Good morning Dr. Grande! I just finished listening to the second season of the To Live and Die in LA podcast, and thought you might be interested in it for an upcoming episode. It’s about a missing 20-year-old girl. What really interested me in it is the mother’s really strange behavior after her daughter goes missing.
Drop the pen knife may be my favorite line from all of your videos! Thank you for making my day more enjoyable, Dr. Grande and thank you for doing cases that haven’t been touched on a gazillion times!
Good morning from New Zealand Dr T. Could you analyse the current case of Jessica Lynch. Body hidden in a loft at the MBTA Station. Boston. Great to see you!
I remember reading about this when it happened. I’ve been waiting all these years for someone to talk about it. It seemed so curious to me but I do agree with your theory (#2). Thank you.
Wonderful to be on time and loyal with your audience, I wish we could hear the clapping. Learning and feeling depth to reason is so important, thank you Dr. Grande.
There is significant oversight when working as an attorney at a federal level. Luna likely had numerous bosses and his work scrutinized by many superiors. The fact that he moved quickly from several jobs, his superiors "did not like" his plea agreement(s) suggest there were numerous incidents where they were not happy with work performance. Blowing cases at that level costs the government millions of dollars. Also worth noting was the debt he sustained despite having a wife who was an active physician. He also took a year off at law school, which is unusual, even if a parent had cancer. The night of his demise, when he headed out for his final ride, transpired when he was due in court the next day very early. That is totally irrational. He was likely psychotic because he had to write up a legal writ and he couldnt finish in a timely manner. People often think big time federal positions are easy, but they take brains, commitment and focused scholarship. Its clear that Luna was missing on or more of these components.
It always scares me when there are stories of people that appear to be doing fine and having it all but then go off the rails for some reason. I can not help but wonder what made that happen.
I'm just gonna say...the kid was set up by his boss (when the money went missing). Such a shame. Some people suck. This young man was too pure for where his career took him. There is so much corruption in DC, at the FTC and in the AG's offices. He seemed like the type of man who genuinely wanted to do the right thing and he probably crossed some bad people in his career. Probably a hit. Easily covered up because it was most likely committed by somebody in prosecutors office
Just Kim, I agree, you wrapped up my thoughts on this very well. Murder, but a very very premeditated and planned to confuse murder. Could be someone with a lot of power.
Sure. He cancelled that $30,000 loan app and came up with $10,000 in cash totally because he didn’t steal that money. He probably found it near that creek in Pennsylvania and went back there to look for more.
He wasn't exactly a kid. Married with 2 children. A guy from the hood who did well, but he was involved in some nefarious activity and a procrastinator. Working in the office late and driving off the way he did is a head shaker. God bless his wife and kids. May he RIP🙏
@@hannahcabana5403 It doesn't matter. People react to what they see, and they don't see the Filipino. To look at him, you would not know about the Filipino heritage unless you knew his background - he just looks like a light - skinned Black Dude. So no, it really doesn't matter.
@@hannahcabana5403 Define Black. Believe it or not, we actually come in skin Shades from pretty nearly white to very deep. Some of us are so light - skinned that we were able to pass for White back in the day. What you _think_ Black is isn't all there is.
I'm really enjoying this. For some reason, I believe he was abducted at the office. If he was going to meet someone, he would have taken his phone. If he had to drive to all of those locations, I believe he would have taken his glasses to drive at night. Did they check his blood for alcohol or drugs? I know women would kick a man in his testicles but a man would too if he wanted him to have pain, Sounds to me that he was abducted and tortured. It could have been the people he was trying to work a deal for, the boss, or even his wife. Was there a video at his job to see if he left the building alone? Was there a camera in any of the intersections he drove by or on the atm? Did they test his clothing for hair or any other item that could identify someone else? Were there fingerprints on the penknife or in the car, or even outside the car? Who was the last person to email, text, or call him? I have so many questions about this case. How many of the bottles of water were drunk and were there fingerprints. Geez, wish I would have had to investigate as an occupation lol. I like this!
This. I think he picked up a prostitute and she or he killed him, potentially out of self defense. The genital bruising could be him repeatedly trying to force himself on someone and they said no at some point and he had ‘already paid.’ Or small cuts is his kink, like being burned with candle wax, and someone accidentally cut too deep and then fled. Who knows. But doing that type of damage to yourself, while driving? Seems harder to believe to me personally.
@@msmellowmood84 my initial comment was deleted by I don’t know who, so it just proves my theory. His genitals was bruised because he was exposing a child predator ring with some major federal players involved. Since he was exposing what they were doing with their genitals, they attacked his while murdering him.
@@somethingelse4424 And… anyway I’m not reading all of that…. I got my info from an article that was posted online years ago. Google search is your friend. Good night. Don’t @ me.
THAT’s where I heard about this case: Casefile! Thank you, Dr Grande for covering it too. I do think it suspicious that he left so much in his office. That is why I think he was held hostage in his own car/two cars. Tricky one!
This is my first time happening upon your channel, and i very much appreciate how well you summarize the story, and your professionalism and analysis of theories is an exceptional addition to True Crime television. Most hosts come from a more casual disposition, so it is refreshing _in a cool nerdy way_ to get your pov. thX★ *i will keep wAtChing*
Whoever the killers was, was a very clever person. I think Jonathan was familiar with his killer(s), and he was not suspicious of them. I think his killer(s) cadually asked Jonathan to get the gas because they didn't want to get out of the car and be seen on the security cameras at the gas station, and they knew they had to drive far away after they killed him. The whole thing was a setup by his boss and covered up by the FBI.
I have to listen to this again. My first thought would be to look at his boss. But the two tanks of gas suggests a long trip. But $200 wouldn't go far. Maybe he met a he/she and the negotiations fell through in the woods. News is reporting his throat was also slit. Very sad ending for this young professional. Sometimes we just need time to get a grip on our lives and to mature. He unfortunately didn't get this chance.🙁
Your jokes are always on point! Took me a second to catch the lack of glasses and fitting in with New Jersey drivers but that had me cracking up. Another great video as always!
My mom used to quote"It's not the hopping over hurdles that hurts the horses hoves! It's the hammer, hammer, hammer on the hard highway! Once someone has reached a certain level through hard work and goal achievement the let down of the everyday humdrum and the often times unfair expectations of psycho bosses can break a good person who may seek excitement or stimulation in immoral or illegal outlets! This seems to me to often happen to overachievers!
Amén. Just don’t go to the High Note bar by any means. There are other ways to regulate your emotions. 🏖🏖🏝🏝🏖🏖(ie WAtch 10* a la grande * videos to ease stress..)
Sure would like to know what happened to Ray Gricar, the DA in Centre County PA who disappeared April 15, 2005. Some think his disappearance is connected to this Luna case.
That’s such a puzzling case, I am on the fence with this one. The humor was very subtle, yet on point.😅😁 Urgh, I have no counter augment regarding NJ drivers.😒 Thank you for the review and I hope you have a great weekend.❤️ BTW, I love the diagonal arrangement of the plants, it’s so very pleasing to the eyes.🌵👌🏼
@@levondelite4072Thank you for your comment!😃 I always scan the area at the beginning of each video. I am not particularly good with decor but that’s just a habit of mine.😉
Dr. Grande, what about Kenneth Ravenell? It sounds like he would have had a strong motive in this case and is alleged to be a corrupt defense attorney, recently indicted on numerous federal charges.
I enjoy your videos and how professional you are explaining methodically about the cases and your analysis. That’s why when you use sarcasm to make a point it’s jarring. You don’t need to do that. You are very good at this.
Thank you for your analyzation of this case. This all happened shortly after Mr.Luna prosecuted my stepson for something. I was recently remembering him in court and then learning of his death. All this time later I thought maybe something had come of the case so I searched and found this video. It was nice to have a few more details to fill in what I knew of the story. Looks like we'll never know what happened.
Eileen UK. DR Grande thank you 🙏 for covering this video I feel sorry for Jonathan he seemed like a nice genuine guy who’s life spiralled out of control so sad 😞 you’re analysis on this is spot on as usual no one could ever match you truly awesome thank you 🙏 DR Grande I look forward to lots more 💙. Could I please request your analysis on the Jeremy Bamber murders it happened a few years ago in England I would be so grateful if you could I know it will be amazing 😉💙 please
Being a Philly native and having a son that lives in Maryland, it's unusual that this guy took the long way to get to Lancaster County from Baltimore. Route 895 North or 83 North will get you there in less than 2 hours, as Maryland does border Pennsylvania in that area. This guy took 95 North through 3 states. Sounds like he may have been having a psychotic break, cause 95 SUCKS ASS!
i live in delaware and i was thinking the same exact thing. there was literally no obvious reason for him to drive through here and jersey to get to lancaster.
That's absolutely impossible I think about this case all the time there's no way he did this to himself it was an inside job why would he stab his own genital area I mean come on
@@2300enduserperson1 From Philly area also. Some people do just prefer 95, my grandfather was like that, whereas my Mom thought he was out of his mid, so maybe just a case of that here? Or, maybe ot, this case is very strange for sure.
The Saguaro Cactus is back, in the lower right hand corner. Just a reminder I'm not diagnosing any Saguaro Cactus in this video, only speculating about a Saguaro Cactus that just happens to look like an oversized sex toy like this.
This case is crazy in many ways with more than one answer to the question" who killed this guy??" I'm going to have to split my answer. I am going against the popular answer. So 60/40 that he was murdered or hurt and then fell into the creek. These are getting harder to provide a good answer.😬💙🇨🇦💙🍩🥧
Ah, yes. Humor drier than my morning toast, and I love it. I believe it's more likely an accidental suicide. He wanted to appear beaten and bloody but took it too far, lost consciousness and drowned. Great content as always Dr.!
I thought that too. Only thing is I feel like the medical examiner should’ve been able to tell if the wounds were self-inflicted, but what do I know lol. I also can’t picture any guy, even a mentally ill person in crisis, hitting their own balls so hard it leaves bruising. It’s all so bizarre!!
It is very hard to make a real conclusion it on whether it was murdered or not ! You did a great job with facts. Thank for all the hard work you put into each cases .
Yeah, it seems more likely, but not enough detail there. They looked at the surveillance tape, so that seems like someone would have noticed a person hanging around needing help. I wonder how much exactly was the cost of each. Was he trying to just split the cost on two different cards ... he had 16 of them?
I am wondering if he just wanted to buy both an extra can of gas & soda anticipating a longer drive! It could be one of many things running through his head.
@@f.4588 That would have been easy to ascertain, and it wouldn't be a mystery. I don't think it's clear if he had any gas cans. I thought the same thing at first. Even if he did, then where are the cans of gas and soda?
The people who knew him say he could not see well enough to leave office without glasses and he was not familiar with the Pennslyvania roads. I believe he was murdered.
Great analysis Dr Grande. If I had to pick a theory it would be # 2. I believe this mans life was so out of control, he put an end too his life. Thank you Dr Grande .
Very interesting. When I was a Police Officer, I responded to a few suicides (after the fact, of course), and when someone uses a blade to cut their throat or wrists, there are always a few, or several, superficial cuts that were made before the coup de grace, in my experience, as you mentioned here.
@@erikparent8176 Thank YOU! It was my pleasure. 5 years US Army Combat Military Police, 5 years civilian Police Officer. Had the chance to do some good for society. It's NICE to be APPRECIATED! 🙂👍
I worked with his brother David back in the late 90s/early 2000s when this went down. He was quiet, never missed a day of work and never spoke about the incident.
I give weight to the possibility of the multiple withdrawals, being forced on him, or his attempt to be seen. I think that he wanted to be picked up on camera, at the toll booth.
Thank you for your analysis of these baffling cases, just watched your Ray Gricar video as well. If you haven't already, I looked through your videos and did not see it but you have so many, could you please give us your take on the case of Danielle Imbo and Richard Petrone. They disappeared from South St in Philadelphia on Feb 19, 2005. A very strange case...neither they nor the truck they were in that night have been found. Thank you for your insightful videos, very interesting and enlightening content. 🌸
I'm honestly glad you ( Dr Grande) didn't say Jonathan mother was African American, instead you said she was Black ( American) I for one can appreciate this..... To be called you're someone you're not, can be extremely frustrating..... My great great great grandparents were American, ( honestly that's the furthest I've went back in my family history).... So thank you ❤️😌 Your dry humor is pretty hilarious 😄 also...... Haha
I recently came across your channel, and continue to look forward to your videos. How do you purchase 2 tanks of gas for 1 vehicle? I think he was murdered. I must add your dry humor cracks me up.
the fact a second person's blood was found in the car makes me doubt it was a suicide
I can't see see someone cutting themselves 30 times and cutting his own artery by accident, nope, injured testicle happen in a fight, then drowned in a river by... chance ?! it's just weird to me that people would want to think this was self inflicted. Probably he was going off the rails that put him in a bad situation, but the self inflicted theory is just weird.
I have researched this case and i believe that this was an inside job
@@joannajamerson35 exactly.
I agree with you 100%
They found wounds consistent with self harm. Suicide is a very unnatural act and he was working up the courage. When it comes to his testicles then ask his wife or the many partners he found online. The guy was probably kinky.
@@SP-qo3pd Cool, I have hard opinions on nothing anymore because of the half information given and there are just weird things that happen with billions of people.
Dang, the DA's office OK'd leaving the actual CASH in those containers??? You are right Dr Grande, ANYONE could have snagged that container. This is sad because I have a feeling no one will PROPERLY investgate this incident.
I lived in Baltimore at the time. It was investigated. Maryland State Police. FBI. It just didn't go anywhere.
Said the perpetrator…
It was probably his prick of a boss. But he was a prosecutor, so it could have been a revenge kill. His wallet and money were intact so it was probably personal, regardless unless a hooker was defending her or himself.
I don’t know how hard that could possibly be?
@@iwatchbaywatch-notyourmoth1568 I was a college student in burbs back then. What little I know comes from my neighbor down the hall... who was an MSP detective had to work a thirty seven hour shift on the case.
@@jessewilley531 wow interesting.. if he was bleeding out I thought the collapse drown thing sounded outrageous - but if he was minutes away from death it’s possible they were all self inflicted and he stumbled his way to the creek in a feet of desperate thirst - hearing that before one dies asking for water extreme thirst is a tell they’re about to go
Jonathon was a friend, he was murdered. he was a wonderful person a special person. Thank you for taking an interest. My heart still aches that someone so caring and loving suffered so much. Bullshit regarding debts all lies.
He was never without his glasses.
Read the Midnight Ride of Jonathon Luna. They were not in overwhelming debt. A, his was a paediatrician he was an attorney. They lived a modest life. Perhaps he was lured out of his office. Perhaps he wasn’t the one who was driving. J was always calm and collected. He had no reason to kill himself.
I. Still sticking with Pennsylvania M.E. Office. Money been missing from Baltimore before, and even the judge that Mr. Luna appeared in front of that day said, he drove a long way to commit suicide. His wife was a physician, they were fine with money. The sex b.s. online was another person, not this Luna. However, I’m not sure we will ever know. I feel bad for his family. His wife never talked publicly, and I understand that.
You've been insanely consistent with your videos. I have no idea how you find the time to film and upload daily videos, but it's super impressive. Keep it up doc!!
I got it. My Philly parents always used to complain about Jersey drivers...until they moved to Jersey.
Sorry, replied to the wrong comment.
@@marshdweller01 xD
It's not hard to hire a research team
@@alexJohnson9119 apparently not hard to be an ass either, as you have demonstrated.
I’m leaning towards a homicide as the reason for his demise.
The scattered money in the car, bad parking, engine still running, a drop of someone else’s blood, partial palm print?, two tanks of gas, two sodas, a toll ticket when he had “easy pass”, bruised testicles, 36 slashes with a pen knife and drowning in shallow water.
It sounds like someone was driving in tandem with him for some reason, at a private spot they stopped and a struggle broke out. The money was scattered during a tussle and he may have tried to defend himself with the penknife and it was wrestled away from him and he was slashed at, out of the car he may have been kicked in the groin area and then held down with his face in the water?
This seems very likely
You are better than the detective.
“A pen knife is usually considered relatively safe. For example, we don’t see a lot of pen knife running biker gangs or hear police officers yelling: drop the pen knife.” 🤣😂. Love Dr. Grande’s dry humour 😂😂😂🙈
Why would Luna stab his own private area
That is hilarious.
In the middle of a very serious and sad story I find myself laughing at his dry humor!! Drop that pen knife said the policeman 👮♂️ 🤣😂
Basically it was a competition to see who could inflict the most extreme/painful acts of self mutilation and it usually involved male genitalia... a couple guys actually cut their wobbly bits off.
My point is a lot of people have stabbed themselves in the dick 😂
He tortured himself before he killed himself ? Dude was murdered!
Exactly.
Exactly
High Note! Nice one, Dr. Grande! This case has intrigued me for a while. Thank you for highlighting it!
I liked both the "High Note" and the NJ drivers comment about trying to fit in.
Thank you Dr Grande. Learning with you is the best way to start a day.
Yes! You are right once again! There may be several unknowns in this case, but one thing we know for sure, is that he was a victim of a horrible investigation! ❤️
Oh the Luna case! This is a pretty interesting one. I'm glad you covered this.
Sad ending for someone who started well.
"He left his office without his glasses which he needed to drive, but he may have had another pair in his vehicle or he just decided to drive poorly. He would end up driving through New Jersey; maybe he was just trying to fit in." As usual Dr. Grande’s deadpan delivery only adds to the severity of the burn! Take that, drivers of NJ!🔥
I had to run that back to catch it. I laughed SO HARD
I normally wear glasses when I drive, but if I left them behind, I still could drive. The only difference is I wouldn't be able tread signs until I'm up close, but I could still see everything, but not as clearly with my glasses.
Yes this was a crazy burn, and you'd never notice that it went down if you were just looking at him talk. Even listening closely it blends right in, and almost sounds like some scientific point.
Dr. G really despises NJ! 😂😂
@@polarvortex3294 he's so deadpan when he says his jokes....like they're matter of fact. Fucking hilarious!
Thank you for another great analysis Dr. Cactus
Yes!👩⚕🌵
Didn't doctor Grande say there was somone elses blood in the car or am i mistaken?
That's some fishy business! 🐟🐠🎣
And a partial print. Sounds like another party caused his death. Hesitation cuts......sounds like may be a female?
That's exactly what he said. Therefore the theory he chose as the most plausible can't be correct.
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Facts!
Good morning Dr. Grande! I just finished listening to the second season of the To Live and Die in LA podcast, and thought you might be interested in it for an upcoming episode. It’s about a missing 20-year-old girl. What really interested me in it is the mother’s really strange behavior after her daughter goes missing.
What’s the persons name?
@@jamesa6080 Elaine Park-she disappeared near Calabasas, CA
Drop the pen knife may be my favorite line from all of your videos! Thank you for making my day more enjoyable, Dr. Grande and thank you for doing cases that haven’t been touched on a gazillion times!
Nice! Gazillion!
Good morning from New Zealand Dr T. Could you analyse the current case of Jessica Lynch. Body hidden in a loft at the MBTA Station. Boston. Great to see you!
I remember reading about this when it happened. I’ve been waiting all these years for someone to talk about it. It seemed so curious to me but I do agree with your theory (#2). Thank you.
Wonderful to be on time and loyal with your audience, I wish we could hear the clapping. Learning and feeling depth to reason is so important, thank you Dr. Grande.
My Shukras vibrate with Dr Grandes intonations
I sense his boss may have something to do with his troubles. This case is a sad and unusual one. RIP Jonathan Luna.
maybe the boss was the one who stole it
The boss should be investigated!
Absolutely agree!
There is significant oversight when working as an attorney at a federal level. Luna likely had numerous bosses and his work scrutinized by many superiors. The fact that he moved quickly from several jobs, his superiors "did not like" his plea agreement(s) suggest there were numerous incidents where they were not happy with work performance. Blowing cases at that level costs the government millions of dollars. Also worth noting was the debt he sustained despite having a wife who was an active physician. He also took a year off at law school, which is unusual, even if a parent had cancer. The night of his demise, when he headed out for his final ride, transpired when he was due in court the next day very early. That is totally irrational. He was likely psychotic because he had to write up a legal writ and he couldnt finish in a timely manner. People often think big time federal positions are easy, but they take brains, commitment and focused scholarship. Its clear that Luna was missing on or more of these components.
@@rayr4320 and again, his bosses had something to do with his death.
Loving the daily content. Thanks Dr. G.
What an interesting case. Happy Friday & Thanks Dr G😊❤💜
It always scares me when there are stories of people that appear to be doing fine and having it all but then go off the rails for some reason. I can not help but wonder what made that happen.
The key word is "appear." They are not necessarily doing fine, it just appears that way to the outside world.
They play it cool in front of the world, but they have a lot of skeletons in their closet.
You must be confused a lot since it's clear he was murdered.
Wow this is the earliest I've ever been on a Dr. Grande video(3mins)! Feeling strangely proud of myself 😆
I'm just gonna say...the kid was set up by his boss (when the money went missing). Such a shame. Some people suck.
This young man was too pure for where his career took him. There is so much corruption in DC, at the FTC and in the AG's offices. He seemed like the type of man who genuinely wanted to do the right thing and he probably crossed some bad people in his career.
Probably a hit. Easily covered up because it was most likely committed by somebody in prosecutors office
Pure? Satisfying? Wholesome? Gen X speech. 😝
Agree. Best comment
Just Kim, I agree, you wrapped up my thoughts on this very well. Murder, but a very very premeditated and planned to confuse murder. Could be someone with a lot of power.
Sure. He cancelled that $30,000 loan app and came up with $10,000 in cash totally because he didn’t steal that money. He probably found it near that creek in Pennsylvania and went back there to look for more.
He wasn't exactly a kid. Married with 2 children. A guy from the hood who did well, but he was involved in some nefarious activity and a procrastinator. Working in the office late and driving off the way he did is a head shaker. God bless his wife and kids. May he RIP🙏
brother tried his best to crawl out of the projects to the top and still ended up shanked.
White men for ya can’t stand a brother at the top; offed by his own people..🥴
He's part Filipino and part black.
@@hannahcabana5403 It doesn't matter.
People react to what they see, and they don't see the Filipino.
To look at him, you would not know about the Filipino heritage unless you knew his background - he just looks like a light - skinned Black Dude.
So no, it really doesn't matter.
@@aheimdahl5201 The filipino in him is so loud and clear, he hardly looks black. I thought he was just a dark Asian
@@hannahcabana5403 Define Black.
Believe it or not, we actually come in skin Shades from pretty nearly white to very deep.
Some of us are so light - skinned that we were able to pass for White back in the day.
What you _think_ Black is isn't all there is.
I'm really enjoying this. For some reason, I believe he was abducted at the office. If he was going to meet someone, he would have taken his phone. If he had to drive to all of those locations, I believe he would have taken his glasses to drive at night. Did they check his blood for alcohol or drugs? I know women would kick a man in his testicles but a man would too if he wanted him to have pain, Sounds to me that he was abducted and tortured. It could have been the people he was trying to work a deal for, the boss, or even his wife. Was there a video at his job to see if he left the building alone? Was there a camera in any of the intersections he drove by or on the atm? Did they test his clothing for hair or any other item that could identify someone else? Were there fingerprints on the penknife or in the car, or even outside the car? Who was the last person to email, text, or call him? I have so many questions about this case. How many of the bottles of water were drunk and were there fingerprints. Geez, wish I would have had to investigate as an occupation lol. I like this!
Sounds like you're on the right track. I think he pulled the penknife on whoever was with him, and they took it from him.
@@cdorman11 Great assessment and thanks.
A man died.
I think it was his boss that killed him
Sound he was like jumped ! Got kicked in the nuts
When I get into bed it’s off to TH-cam to watch the latest Dr. Grande. I love listening to your voice as you explain these cases!
The NJ driving comment was so subtle, I’m sure no one from NJ noticed. Rest assured those of us from the South did.
As someone who's experiences multiple rude NC and SC drivers, I'm ready to argue
(I'm not)
(I'm teasing)
Dr. Grande says things about nj every third episode. It's part of his shtick. Funny, as he's from Delaware, the 'nothing to see here state'. 😆
Haha I came to the comment section looking for this comment! 😂 . Dr Grande was so smooth and subtle with that NJ jab.
I got it. My Philly parents always used to complain about Jersey drivers...until they moved to Jersey.
@@mimisezlol As a North Carolinian, when I see a tag from Virginia, I try to get away from them asap.
Nobody "slashes" themselves 36 times, when ONE cut in the right place(self-inflicted) gets the job done hands down
This. I think he picked up a prostitute and she or he killed him, potentially out of self defense. The genital bruising could be him repeatedly trying to force himself on someone and they said no at some point and he had ‘already paid.’ Or small cuts is his kink, like being burned with candle wax, and someone accidentally cut too deep and then fled. Who knows. But doing that type of damage to yourself, while driving? Seems harder to believe to me personally.
@@msmellowmood84 my initial comment was deleted by I don’t know who, so it just proves my theory. His genitals was bruised because he was exposing a child predator ring with some major federal players involved. Since he was exposing what they were doing with their genitals, they attacked his while murdering him.
And NO ONE hits themselves in the genitals
@@somethingelse4424 And… anyway I’m not reading all of that…. I got my info from an article that was posted online years ago. Google search is your friend. Good night. Don’t @ me.
@@somethingelse4424 bye bxtch 🙃
THAT’s where I heard about this case: Casefile!
Thank you, Dr Grande for covering it too.
I do think it suspicious that he left so much in his office. That is why I think he was held hostage in his own car/two cars.
Tricky one!
This is my first time happening upon your channel, and i very much appreciate how well you summarize the story, and your professionalism and analysis of theories is an exceptional addition to True Crime television. Most hosts come from a more casual disposition, so it is refreshing _in a cool nerdy way_ to get your pov.
thX★ *i will keep wAtChing*
Hrande almost got 1M subs! Congrats Mr Dr sir!
As soon as I heard that New Jersey was involved, I was waiting for a driving joke. Dr Grande never disappoints.
36 stab wounds “self inflicted” ? That seems unlikely to me. There’s a lot of odd things about this case.
I remember this Case. Thank You for covering it!
So glad to be early "in a situation like this".
This case fascinated me when it happened and still does.
Thank u Dr Grande for everything u do for us I love ur channel and look forward to it openion on things!!
Another concise and engaging video. I always enjoy your dry humour.
"HIGH NOTE!" THANK YOU Dr Grande for this interesting analysis.
How does 1 guy with 1 vehicle purchase and pump 2 tanks of gas if he was alone?
Was all that gas pumped?
Whoever the killers was, was a very clever person. I think Jonathan was familiar with his killer(s), and he was not suspicious of them.
I think his killer(s) cadually asked Jonathan to get the gas because they didn't want to get out of the car and be seen on the security cameras at the gas station, and they knew they had to drive far away after they killed him.
The whole thing was a setup by his boss and covered up by the FBI.
I have to listen to this again. My first thought would be to look at his boss. But the two tanks of gas suggests a long trip. But $200 wouldn't go far. Maybe he met a he/she and the negotiations fell through in the woods. News is reporting his throat was also slit. Very sad ending for this young professional. Sometimes we just need time to get a grip on our lives and to mature. He unfortunately didn't get this chance.🙁
Your jokes are always on point! Took me a second to catch the lack of glasses and fitting in with New Jersey drivers but that had me cracking up. Another great video as always!
My mom used to quote"It's not the hopping over hurdles that hurts the horses hoves! It's the hammer, hammer, hammer on the hard highway! Once someone has reached a certain level through hard work and goal achievement the let down of the everyday humdrum and the often times unfair expectations of psycho bosses can break a good person who may seek excitement or stimulation in immoral or illegal outlets! This seems to me to often happen to overachievers!
Amén. Just don’t go to the High Note bar by any means. There are other ways to regulate your emotions. 🏖🏖🏝🏝🏖🏖(ie WAtch 10* a la grande * videos to ease stress..)
Bill - Best advice! 💎
That's a fantastic analogy
Your wit is always fabulous!
I hate all the cases but I catch your subtle nuances as a RN. Thank you! 🙏🏻
This is a mysterious case!! You do a great job of coming up with an explanation… im torn.. idk what happin!
This is a very interesting episode.
Sure would like to know what happened to Ray Gricar, the DA in Centre County PA who disappeared April 15, 2005. Some think his disappearance is connected to this Luna case.
I think that was a suicide.
That’s such a puzzling case, I am on the fence with this one.
The humor was very subtle, yet on point.😅😁
Urgh, I have no counter augment regarding NJ drivers.😒
Thank you for the review and I hope you have a great weekend.❤️
BTW, I love the diagonal arrangement of the plants, it’s so very pleasing to the eyes.🌵👌🏼
Rejane;how come I didn't notice the plants ?lol.
@@cottontails9003 😄😁
@@levondelite4072Thank you for your comment!😃 I always scan the area at the beginning of each video. I am not particularly good with decor but that’s just a habit of mine.😉
Very strange circumstances for a death for sure. But your analysis was very informative as always Dr Grande! Thank you!💖💖
Dr. Grande, what about Kenneth Ravenell? It sounds like he would have had a strong motive in this case and is alleged to be a corrupt defense attorney, recently indicted on numerous federal charges.
I enjoy your videos and how professional you are explaining methodically about the cases and your analysis. That’s why when you use sarcasm to make a point it’s jarring. You don’t need to do that. You are very good at this.
Thank you for your analyzation of this case. This all happened shortly after Mr.Luna prosecuted my stepson for something. I was recently remembering him in court and then learning of his death. All this time later I thought maybe something had come of the case so I searched and found this video. It was nice to have a few more details to fill in what I knew of the story. Looks like we'll never know what happened.
Eileen UK. DR Grande thank you 🙏 for covering this video I feel sorry for Jonathan he seemed like a nice genuine guy who’s life spiralled out of control so sad 😞 you’re analysis on this is spot on as usual no one could ever match you truly awesome thank you 🙏 DR Grande I look forward to lots more 💙. Could I please request your analysis on the Jeremy Bamber murders it happened a few years ago in England I would be so grateful if you could I know it will be amazing 😉💙 please
People are nice until they are not nice.
Being a Philly native and having a son that lives in Maryland, it's unusual that this guy took the long way to get to Lancaster County from Baltimore. Route 895 North or 83 North will get you there in less than 2 hours, as Maryland does border Pennsylvania in that area. This guy took 95 North through 3 states. Sounds like he may have been having a psychotic break, cause 95 SUCKS ASS!
Yes! Details matter! This guy drove an hour out of his way either for a specific reason, or like you stated, he had a break with reality.
i live in delaware and i was thinking the same exact thing. there was literally no obvious reason for him to drive through here and jersey to get to lancaster.
That's absolutely impossible I think about this case all the time there's no way he did this to himself it was an inside job why would he stab his own genital area I mean come on
@@2300enduserperson1 From Philly area also. Some people do just prefer 95, my grandfather was like that, whereas my Mom thought he was out of his mid, so maybe just a case of that here? Or, maybe ot, this case is very strange for sure.
Great analysis Dr Grande. Thank you.
"High note."
This is the kind of quality quip I'm bingeing this channel for.
Ending the week on a High Note!
Snoop Dog and Seth Rogan want in!
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The Saguaro Cactus is back, in the lower right hand corner. Just a reminder I'm not diagnosing any Saguaro Cactus in this video, only speculating about a Saguaro Cactus that just happens to look like an oversized sex toy like this.
That explains his nickname of "Spikey Prick".
@@eadweard. I didn't know that was his name! Thanks, that pulls it all together!
That was my first thought when I saw the little American cactus 😂 my brain only saw the blue and not the rest of it and my mind went somewhere else 😂😂
@@Jess-db3gi My mind is almost always somewhere else--My mind is almost always in the gutter; But the rent is so cheap I can't resist.
Seems there is always an adult corner of comments! Thankfully they are usually kept pretty tame!🐇🐣🐁🐣🐀
High Note! - impressed
Dr. Grande:
Good video. Thanks.
I’m buying your book, you set a high standard.
Tip for Dr. Grande - when you give your disclaimer about “not diagnosing anyone,” wink three times at the camera.
Ok, TH-cam can close their servers for the rest of the day. No comment can beat yours 😉😉😉
It’s actually a good thing that he doesn’t diagnose people
Well, it’s a good thing that he isn’t diagnosing me.
This case is crazy in many ways with more than one answer to the question" who killed this guy??" I'm going to have to split my answer. I am going against the popular answer. So 60/40 that he was murdered or hurt and then fell into the creek. These are getting harder to provide a good answer.😬💙🇨🇦💙🍩🥧
@@Kilaueaorph4n Agreed! 😂😂😂
Good analysis Dr G
Ah, yes. Humor drier than my morning toast, and I love it. I believe it's more likely an accidental suicide. He wanted to appear beaten and bloody but took it too far, lost consciousness and drowned. Great content as always Dr.!
Try apple butter it's nice this time of year!
I thought that too. Only thing is I feel like the medical examiner should’ve been able to tell if the wounds were self-inflicted, but what do I know lol. I also can’t picture any guy, even a mentally ill person in crisis, hitting their own balls so hard it leaves bruising. It’s all so bizarre!!
It is very hard to make a real conclusion it on whether it was murdered or not ! You did a great job with facts. Thank for all the hard work you put into each cases .
Your punches at NJ are hilarious and completely warranted, hilarious and true.
As thorough as ever. This case has been covered by a few other youtubers but they leave stuff out.
What about the thing with him leaving his glasses on the desk, which his family said he would have needed to drive? How do you explain that?
hey dr Grande, could you please analyse the case of dag hammerskjold? UN Secretary General? It may be a tough ask but just wondering. Thanks.
Interesting video. Great shirt.
Maybe there was someone at the gas station that needed help, and he paid to fill up their tank. What a strange story.
Yep. A friend of mine was bi-polar and when he was particularly stressed would offer to pay for stranger's groceries.
Yeah, it seems more likely, but not enough detail there. They looked at the surveillance tape, so that seems like someone would have noticed a person hanging around needing help.
I wonder how much exactly was the cost of each. Was he trying to just split the cost on two different cards ... he had 16 of them?
I am wondering if he just wanted to buy both an extra can of gas & soda anticipating a longer drive! It could be one of many things running through his head.
@@f.4588 That would have been easy to ascertain, and it wouldn't be a mystery. I don't think it's clear if he had any gas cans.
I thought the same thing at first.
Even if he did, then where are the cans of gas and soda?
Clarissa, I thought the same thing, that he was helping someone at that gas station.
Very interesting case. I must agree with your analysis. Thank you Dr Grande.
The people who knew him say he could not see well enough to leave office without glasses and he was not familiar with the Pennslyvania roads. I believe he was murdered.
Great analysis Dr Grande. If I had to pick a theory it would be # 2. I believe this mans life was so out of control, he put an end too his life. Thank you Dr Grande .
Well presented video 📹
And you would trust the US Attorneys office? I’m betting Jonathan was a scapegoat. He probably wouldn’t play ball.
Thank you, Dr grande
Very interesting.
When I was a Police Officer, I responded to a few suicides (after the fact, of course), and when someone uses a blade to cut their throat or wrists, there are always a few, or several, superficial cuts that were made before the coup de grace, in my experience, as you mentioned here.
Thanks for your service Nick!
Somtimes police officers get a bum rap! 🤝🚔👍
@@erikparent8176 Thank YOU! It was my pleasure.
5 years US Army Combat Military Police, 5 years civilian Police Officer. Had the chance to do some good for society.
It's NICE to be APPRECIATED! 🙂👍
@@NickvonZ
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@@NickvonZ thank you for your continued service ^-^
@@SynnJynn 💖👍
I've been hoping for more interest in this case. Is it picking up? It's a VERY interesting one.
Other than your excellent video productions, your sense of humour is a nice change. i love your work 👌
Your camera is spectacular. It's as if I have had much needed lasik surgery and I do not have my glasses on! 🥴✌🏽💗
I pray Mr. Luna has now found the peace that alluded him on earth 🙏💔
Doc, it would be great if you would do "Yasser Said" i would love to hear your input on that monster!
I worked with his brother David back in the late 90s/early 2000s when this went down. He was quiet, never missed a day of work and never spoke about the incident.
This case has always bothered me. I was trying to rememver his name a few weeks ago.
Well if a doctor and a lawyer can’t make ends meet financially then nobody can.
There professional school debts
& two children is extremely costly.
wonderful shirt!
I give weight to the possibility of the multiple withdrawals, being forced on him, or his attempt to be seen. I think that he wanted to be picked up on camera, at the toll booth.
Any time Baltimore is a factor in an equation, all bets are off.
Thanks, Doc.
Thank you for your analysis of these baffling cases, just watched your Ray Gricar video as well. If you haven't already, I looked through your videos and did not see it but you have so many, could you please give us your take on the case of Danielle Imbo and Richard Petrone. They disappeared from South St in Philadelphia on Feb 19, 2005. A very strange case...neither they nor the truck they were in that night have been found. Thank you for your insightful videos, very interesting and enlightening content. 🌸
I'm honestly glad you ( Dr Grande) didn't say Jonathan mother was African American, instead you said she was Black ( American) I for one can appreciate this..... To be called you're someone you're not, can be extremely frustrating..... My great great great grandparents were American, ( honestly that's the furthest I've went back in my family history).... So thank you ❤️😌
Your dry humor is pretty hilarious 😄 also...... Haha
Where do you stand on the copper coloured theory?
"We don't hear about those penknife wielding biker gangs "
Gotta love those white hot but super cold Grande burns
Good afternoon, Dr. Grande! Sorry I'm so late! Thank You!🙋🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟
Oh God….I love your analysis. “Penknife gang” 😂
I recently came across your channel, and continue to look forward to your videos. How do you purchase 2 tanks of gas for 1 vehicle? I think he was murdered. I must add your dry humor cracks me up.