ATF: Solvent Traps Are Silencers & You May Be A Felon 👀
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- We go over the recent ATF letter claiming that solvent traps are now silencers or suppressors and that Americans with them may be felons 🤡
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Still can't figure how a branch of the irs formed in 1972 to collect taxes, has the ability to change meanings and try to make their own laws/ rules. Also, the letter states, registry, registry is to be illegal.
Basically they are bullying us, and we can't do a dam thing about it
@@virtuaguyverify we could do what Washington did. And he did not vote the British out! He used lead
@@kurtschmidt5005 yep. Americans are too gutless. We ain’t ever gonna do squat. People are too scared and also too comfortable. They might have to give up Facebook and Twitter. Makes me sick.
_"Asking permission to exercise a Right turns that Right into a privilege."_
Stay vigilant my friends.
yup
I will quote this henceforth. Another phrase has been added to my list of memorable quotes. "The only rights that you have are the ones that you can defend.", " When seconds count, the police are only minutes away." 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Great quote. To whom may I give the credit?
In vigilance.
@@WooghaWhoogashwoogha It is a principle based off of _Murdock v. Pennsylvania, 319 U.S. 105 (1943)._
Stay classy my friend.
@@BertShackleford And yet everyone keeps doing it. Including all these self proclaimed patriots.
There should be no ATF any more than there should be a First Amendment agency. Just the idea that an unelected bureaucrat can create a felony out of the air - involving a constitutional right no less! - should be a per se due process violation.
I think that’s a brilliant idea. You really only need seed money register it as a non profit or a charity that fights for victims of tyranny’s rights.
@@mathewmcdonald3657 That's supposed to be us, minus the fundraiser lol
There is a first amendment agency, it’s the FBI.
This is what 2A is for. Maybe it's time we actually used it instead of writing sternly worded letters.
@@IISeverusll That's what voting is for. When you look at what the voter turnout is in supposed red states, it's a travesty.
I wish every ATF officer would put an unmodified solvent trap on their firearm and show us all how well those silencers work. These business owners need to get together and start a class action lawsuit for theft by unlawful taking, depending on State law and the value of lost merchandise the stolen property may even be enough to qualify as a felony theft.
A better lawsuit would be for civil rights violations under the color of law. Which is also a felony
well the oil filter ones you can shoot through but ones with actual baffles not so much
I would rather they all take their sidearms, point them at their head, and then do the honorable thing for once in their entire lives and pull the trigger.
@@TheMailmanOfSteel It'd be nice if those Tyrant devil's put themselves out of our misery.
Let's go Brandon!
Sic Semper Tyrannis!
What's the point of using an unmodified one? Come on, man.
"There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws." - Ayn Rand
show me the man, ill show you the crime
FJB and its syndicate.
"If the only tool you have is a hammer every problem has to look like a nail." Gen. Wesley Clark
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Reminds me of when Gibson guitars had their wood inventory confiscated then left out to rot in impound only to have the case thrown out. The process is the punishment.
YEP. Was just thinking about the same thing. Time to make the bureaucrats afraid.
More than you know. Look into asset forfeiture.
ATF will do anything to try and drum up relevancy to justify their existence. Lame
ATF logic: form 1 suppressor is a supressor you manufacture at home. These solvent traps create constructive intent though so they were always supressors so you need to form 4 them. This means you have to form 4 anything you plan on form 1'ing because you have constructive intent meaning it was always a supressor because you planned on form 1'ing it. I refuse that logic.
This sums it up perfectly.
And everyone including the atf talks about “constructive intent” if you do your research the ONLY US code annotated that applies to constructive intent is constructive intent to build a machine gun. and even that is worded in a way that means you have to “easily” with “little effort” be able to make a machine gun with parts that are in your possession. that’s it period! Constructive intent cannot under federal law apply to Supressors, SBRs or SBSs.
LOL, I had to read this twice but you are spot on.
Yeah the manufacturing is drilling the holes. That’s creating the silencer. First of all the technology is not that complicated. This cat is out of the bag.
Definitely a Catch-22
If you're not actively committing a felony are you even free?
This is the right idea. Stop complying with this bs.
No, not in this corrupt country. So tell them to piss off. There are more of us than them. People need to grow a pair in mass.
I CRANKKED MY HAWG OFF TO THIS COMMENT
GOBLESS
Free always comes with a price. There is no such thing as free. You cannot even die for free.
No. The time for compliance is done. Let them come for our property, silencer or not.
Hope you're ready. Cuz you're not gonna like it when they do.
Based
I'm with you Redd Xavier, it is time to make a stand. I know that there are thoes that say " how are you gonna make a stand against a federal law enforcement agency when they show up at your door" SIMPLE, REFUSE TO COMPLY, there really are things that are worth fighting for, even if it is your last stand. MOLON LABE!!!!!!
@@smokingcrab2290 well sounds like you aren't going to stand up for freedom. Good thing there's others who will.
The reality is there's nearly 100,000,000 gun owners.
There's less than 1,000,000 law enforcement officers state, local and federal combined.
The military is about 1.200,000 total active members of which about 275,000 are actually combat roles. The rest are various support roles.
Assuming the military through every last service member and none refused to comply (which isn't going to be the case) added to the 1,000,000 officers again falsely assuming 100 compliance we still out number them 45:1. And the military would collapse fast because their supply chain and all support roles would be elsewhere.
Stop living in fear, what I just showed is worst case scenario if we all just stood up one day and said no more unconstitutional laws, they are nullified as of right now. The government would have zero choice but do what we say without having to fire a shot.
100,000,000 Americans with a backbone to just stand up, not act like you and tell people who are willing to stand up it's a lost cause.
Freedom doesn't come from nice words, bumper stickers, memes, no it comes from actually standing up and defending it. No country ever talked and complied their way to freedom.
@@smokingcrab2290 Hey little troll, go back to your stupid Commiefornia and hide your head in the grass like an Ostrich with all the other cowards like you. We will stand and defend if it’s necessary with our own lives our 2nd Amendment Rights.
PVC pipes, 2 liter soda bottles, oil filters, and pillows are all silencers. Anybody who owns or has owned any of those items is now a felon and must turn themselves in, or else…
Anyone with easy access to any kind of metal or carbon fiber "tube", is now a felon. Sad days.
Potatoe Or is that urban myth ?
Doesn't PVC melt in a burn barrel after you are done using the PVC?..... asking for a stranger I just met on a street corner. 🤔
@@unknownalias5538 🤔
Only cowards and traitors will comply with these Tyrants true Americans won't comply!
Let's go Brandon!
Sic Semper Tyrannis!
These moves by the atf really do come across as hissyfits and lashing out that people dare to possess nice things they don't want them to have.
It’s mostly about the loss in revenue tbh.
It’s basically a classic example of government work: pass harmful legislation to make it look like your doing something useful.
Creepy joe and camel toe trying to push their anti gun agenda in any way possible legal or otherwise
@@AFreeThinkingDawg09
Quickly approaching $30 trillion in debt and the government is worried about a $200 tax stamp on an item that may or may not even consitute collection of that illegal tax, sounds about right.
This is the game they play to try and stifle innovation and adoption in the market. They are Well Known for pulling shit like this. By throwing their weight around and threatening people with felonies for things that are common place, they keep everyone, from someone just looking at getting their first gun, to industry leaders and manufacturers constantly thinking "well, this probably won't be legal for long." It keeps the gun community self-policing (similarly to the HAM community) which means that people will never be able to just ignore these bullshit rule changes and get on with their lives.
Just take a look at how braces, after years on the market, are still viewed by many as an SBR workaround for ne'er-do-wells who don't want to abide by ThE lAw!!!
I lost all of my solvent traps when I was ice fishing last week and the boat tipped over!!
You can’t be a felon or a criminal if you haven’t left a victim .
That only works if they can't find the body. Or the hole no one drilled out....
You've victimized the ATF silly. $200 buys a lot of strap-ons.
And just think of all the people you haven't murdered cause the ATF has their bad dragon stuffed up thy backside.
Well said. The ATF needs to go choke on a suppressor.
does strap-ons refer to the ATF itself? lol I am sure there is a gun pun with strap on as well.
@@itreehorsenumber3 Plus one for the Bad Dragon reference. A gentleman of taste, truly.
Bought 2 suppressors last March, did the silencershop kiosk thing, got notification they cashed my check. Still waiting to pick them up from the FFL. SMH. Should not take so long. It's almost like they don't want you to have hearing protection.
Usually takes 11-12 months from my multiple experiences with the kiosk. Call in and give them the SN, FFL name and they’ll tell you if approved. They’ll just say pending if it’s not until one day an examiner decides to do their job. After approved it can take 2-4 additional weeks to get approval to the FFL with snail mail
I purchased on March 10 (exactly 10 months ago) and they cashed the check on March 25 (291 days ago). Still feel like I’d be “lucky” if I got it in-hand within the next month. I asked the NFA branch how long approvals are currently taking and was told “10-12 months on average” right now.
They’re Also not very hearing safe to be honest. I have cans for 556 and 762 so be prepared to be disappointed and they’re hot as hell
@@AFreeThinkingDawg09 Good thing I only spent that stimulus check money on mine 😂. I’ve shot one silencer before and it was actually a .30 caliber silencer attached to a 5.56 rifle but I thought it sounded great. I think I’ll actually be impressed with my 5.56 silencer but I also know that 5.56 is going to be “loud” regardless
Form1, 19 days to get tax stamp in q3 of 2020. I’ve tested my $400 form1 surpressor against a $1200 shelf purchased form4 can and my dB came in slightly lower. Same rifle. I don’t know why anyone would waste time and money getting a form4.
If they can make up rules we can choose to ignore them. FTATF. Just leave us alone.
We've been following their unconstitutional guns rules since before I was born, it's not gonna take a 180 turn anytime soon I don't think... It tried to with Trump then made a u-turn...
@@BrassBashers it tried with Trump hell. I'm guessing you forgot the bump stock debacle and the start of the brace troubles? It isn't like field office level and up management immediately change every election. Trump era ATF brass is largely still employed there.
Abolished the ATF. All firearm laws are infringement on the 2nd Amendment of the Constitution.
Meh. They'll just shift enforcement to the FBI or some other politicized Fed branch.
Amen
I wonder if the “AFT,” will send a letter to take the muffler off my truck and destroy it, or Form 1 my pillow?
they'll only form 1 pillows if they're bought from 'my pillow'
It has happened to me. I have had to lawyer up. If you or someone you know has this issue, let us seek potential for a class action lawsuit.
How’s it turned out?
@@chrissherrill790 , it has been over a year and nothing from the AFT. But then again, I don't have a dog for them to shoot. Nor do I have any children for them to gas and burn alive. So I might be safe.
Came back to this one as well. You in prison now?
When the ATF act unlawfully someone needs to make them accountable period
I'm looking forward to the day when they get the "YOU ARE IN VIOLATION OF THE CONSTITUTION" letter.
That's called incoming fire. 😊
I have a few. Not worried about it. Time to stand up and say no. If need be fight. Only way to end tyranny is to fight.
Thanks for the info man. Interesting that they assume customers didn't form1 them.
They *could* cross reference their illegal finger print containing gun registry.....
I did. Not from this company though
I know people who have done a form 1 with one of these. Works fine and is a very cheap way to get a suppressor
The problem is that they have decided they were silencers before they became form 1’s so they should have been form 4’s making anyone that followed the law and got a form 1 in possession of a form 4 suppressor. Which it wasn’t when bought. They are not suppressors until machined into a suppressor so can’t be form4 when bought.
@@Iron1793 I wonder if anyone's tried to Form 1 a completed silencer before and what would happen with that application.
Perfect. Just like the SBR/pistol brace rulings, this would make the NFA WEAK!
If they push these rules through, our public non compliance should rival the Boston tea party
The problem is, 99.99% of fire arm owners will just comply.
At this point civil disobedience should be the main course of action
The message those of us who received the letters has universally been that if you have an approved Form 1, you're good to go. I asked the Special Agent I spoke with to give me a heads up if they planned to raid me so I could move my dog to a safe location.
I don’t pay attention to the atf anymore. Haven’t in a long time. They can call you a felon but the constitution says you aren’t. Not that you’ll win that fight but that’s the fact.
@Great White not likely. Look at conviction rates in federal court. If you won't plea out,. you'll gamble a 30 year sentence on what would be 18 months on a plea deal. They railroad everyone and make defending yourself at trial a gamble bigger than most can make. Oh how unjust is a system that defacto punishes criminals differently based on whether they defend themselves or not.
@Great White if that was true ,these arbitrary laws wouldn't exist as people have challenged and lost these cases. Some are recognized and are just people you'll never hear about bc their case /appeal never went to the next level . As supreme courts are the most know and they always chicken out doing a half as verdict based on "half the wording" and not the entire amendment
@Great White They have the full force of an army of government lawyers and unlimited tax money. How much money do you have and how many lawyers do you have?
For the years I've been watching your vids, I've learned & been entertained, but by far my favorite part is the hard line you've always taken against tyranny and .gov overreach. God bless you & yours, and thank you.
“Bitching on the internet”
“Hard line”
Yeah.
@@ghostlight69420 he's got a gun safe or more likely gun room and a ffl full of compliance papers.
Like many talks good but doesn't back it up. But at least he's getting information out.
@@JamesSmullins If you are in the firearms business and are an FFL/SOT, you have to follow the law. If you want to keep to yourself and never leave your property with your non-registered NFA firearms, the likelihood of being caught with said firearms is small. Many do, you do you.
I choose to "comply" because I want to travel and freely use my SBR's, suppressors and automatic weapons without the threat of being thrown in prison. Does not mean I like it and I fight like hell everywhere I can.
What are you doing?
@@boldie24 you are part of the problem.
But as to what I do. I own guns.
Not once have I had a background check because I am not required per the second amendment.
I have not once filled out any forms to buy or build a firearm or accessory because again I'm not required to per the second amendment.
I carried concealed and open without ever asking for, paying for a permission slip because yet again I'm not required to by the second amendment.
Shall not be infringed means we do not have to comply, we do not have to give a damn what they think. There is no except for... No unless..... So there's absolutely no constitutional grounds for any gun laws at any level.
Now not only have I not complied I've also been very very open about it both online and in daily life for decades. You see I'm not going to grant the wannabe tyrants power they don't have.
Unlike you who've been conditioned to live in fear and thus granted them power and authority over you. But you don't get to do that for me and you sure don't get to feel all smug in your choices because your choices are what keeps them making new laws year after year.
Maybe you should look up what shall not be infringed means, specially as it meant in 1791.
@@DA-rm5bh - [edit for typos. Stupid tiny phone keyboard!] I don't ever bring God (or religion) into anything lightly. I simply said, "God bless you and yours." So, it's simply me saying 'I hope God moves you toward whatever his plan for you is." That is all.
I don't know anything about Mike/MGnG being a 'for profit patriot' or a 'pathological liar'. If there are citable, proven examples of that kind of behavior, then of course I think any rational person would make a 180° pivot away from supporting that person. But the burden of PROOF is on the accuser.
As I said, I don't take God lightly or use Him or religion (of which I'm not a huge fan. Example = huge million-dollar mega-churches who push the "tithe" in order to make that Lambo payment).
Don’t care what anyone says about you… your alright in my book. Thanks brother for the informational video.
I have said it before I will say it again. Once we all become criminals for things we shouldn't become one over and have nothing left to lose. Then and only then will the government realize they have fucked up.
ATTENTION !
Do not open up any mail from the ATF. Go to post office and write 'REFUSE' on the envelope. This will keep the ATF from having authority over you.
That is not how the law works... They are not required to give you notice that you may be violating the law before arresting you for breaking it, the whole "ignorance is no excuse" thing. They may move on to easier fish to find but if they decide that they really want to go after you. They just need to prove you live there and find a judge that buys the "Hey he bought it so its probably in his house, give us a warrant to search for it." logic, this letter's job is to get all of the less committed people to give them up/register them. Then the atf will decide whether they want to push the issue for the remainder of people.
Passed away,not available for mail lol
When do we as Americans say enough is enough? When do we as Americans start standing up for our inalienable rights? Peaceful civil disobedience is the only way to deal with atf Law at this point
Seems like just standing outside and breathing can get you a felony. Its crazy how many non violent actions can strip you of your rights.
I told people this would happen long ago. I would go so far as saying that some of the "sites" selling them were fed-made to begin with.
At this point it would be in our interest to just outright ignore the ATF and their BS rulings.
Easily said till you wake up at 2am with tear gas breaking thru your bedroom windows and AFT agents lasers pointed at your chest.
"There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and cartridge. Please use in that order."
These companies that are being "raided" with no charges, should treat any raid as an armed robbery and defend their property as such. Be armed and prepared to defend your property against armed terrorists like the ATF.
Yep and local police if pro 2a might be able to counter illegal search and seizure
@@justinlance4174 don't hold your breath on local LE. 90% of the time they assist in the raid. The other 10% they look the other way. If it (local LE defending you) were going to happen, we would have heard of it happening by now. In reality, local LE is just as bad. They ruin people's lives enforcing victimless laws too. They'll even do it with firearms laws. I'd wager a good bit of the ATFs cases are cases referred to them by local LE agencies.
@@TheAsheybabe89 well they did arrest a atf agent in I think it was Cleveland last year, that was all over the internet.
@@JamesSmullins oh they arrested one. Round of applause. 👏🏾
LOL easy to say when you have no skin in the game
ATF claiming whatever the hell again. I don’t even listen to their bs anymore.
Possession is 9/10 of the law, unless the federal government wants it..
Letters like these are precisely why we follow all federal, state, and local laws. They are also legally allowed to lie to people. The best response is no response.
Thanks for putting yourself out there. These are scary times and you're bold to go against a powerful agency.
This makes me wanna buy some solvent traps & do absolutely nothing with them just because I can.
Makes me wanna buy a bunch and put them on the front porch as "bait".
You might find it a laugh but if your dog hears about this it will be shittin itself...
I asked you about the one that was all over FB called Dooky brand fuel filter and we came to the conclusion that this was ATF bait. That was about 3 years ago. FB went through a phase of 6 months where 4 or 5 companies were trying to sell fuel filters cheap. I got rid of FB soon after that. Entrapment on a legal item shouldn't be a thing. Government is way too big.
I saw the exact same thing, and watching this I've come to the same conclusion as you have. I was curious about getting such a device searched on Google. Then the atf ads came lol.
Disband the ATF. All the attempts to hurt innocent people's lives needs recompense
As many have said:
“Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms” should be the name of a convenience store, not a government agency.
Stolen elections have consequences.
I love how they keep trying this knowing it doesn’t work on mass. Mostly because of people like you, keep it up man.
So if you fill out the form and pay them , they’ll look the other way .. “it’s ok now “.. but if you don’t pay up / paper work , oh NO it’s illegal .. 🤦🏻♂️
"The letter says 'who' and 'you' and 'diversified machine customer' but no names. So why do people think that letter is written to them?
And that is why are supposed to be written by Congress and not bureaucrats.
This was going to happen, shouldn't have been a surprise to anyone. Why I never got one on top of they are shit anyways.
Letter from the ATF: Notice of upcoming raid on your place of residence and ultimate demise of your dog(s).
If only the AFT put this much time, money, and energy into getting the firearms out of the true criminals hands. I don't own one but was looking into getting one but I don't even think I'm gonna bother. Between the cost and hassle is it really worth it?
Nothing that involves the atf is "worth it" it's just control to separate the rich from the poor
@Sqwee lmfao true
I received that letter and I only ever made one purchase from DM being a few pieces of cut tubing spacers, absolutely not a suppressor or suppressor part
That's insane for materials to be considered a finished products especially in a nation that was founded with 2nd amendment rights that also needs to get manufacturing back from overseas. It opens up a big can of worms that is crazy restrictive and extreme overreaching into citizens lives.
The Gestapo has gone rogue
We're about at the point where you just have to not comply and then shoot as many as possible if they come to your door
When did the ATF, a "bureau" become a legislative body?
The ATF, the creators of criminals we have enough on the streets already leave the taxpayers alone
This is bull crap what they are trying to do to law abiding citizens
You would think with all the crime they would have enough to do without harassing law-abiding people.
You remember that electrical conduit you bought from your local building supply store when you put that freezer in your basement? Well the ATF seized their records cuz they KNOW you're making silencers! Turn your self in! AND by the way, who gave you permission to buy a freezer?! The ATF endgame is to make every part you put IN and/or ON your gun a "registered" item! Key word here is "registered"... we know what that leads to! SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED!
I'd like to see how they get approved for the search warrant to conduct the search for the silencer that's not a silencer.
Unbelievable how many of us watching these kinds of videos served this same government that has become so blatantly and irresponsibly tyrannical! Makes me ashamed
I never even had a silencer and they tried to take my gun that I keep in my closet for home defense.
Thank you for the info!
Great job breaking it down for me/us
Keep up the great work!
We appreciate it!!!
As if we didn’t see this coming….
This ISN'T about "Safety"...It's about MONEY. MONEY they Won't be receiving in the form of "permission slips" for things WE should be able to own and possess in the First Place! Follow the MONEY Always.
Why is ATF worried about suppression of weapons,I didn't know that every crime that's been committed was with a suppressor.
So... If the letter wasn't sent registered mail, requiring signature, how can anyone be held liable for a change in attitude/politics at the AFT?
I warned people about buying those things. Anyone who bought one bought it to make of silencer. “If you ain’t got the time, don’t do the crime”.
Btw, they don’t persecute you, they prosecute you.
Its clearly nothing more than a reflux column for reactions, or distillations.
So what ATF wants us to do is file a form 4 with $200 for a Solvent Trap to CLEAN guns and then file another form 1 once I decided to make it in a silencer? Is this the logical way to do this for them now?!
If any "law" requires money to make it "okay" then whats it really all about? If it was about safety no money should be involved.
Thank you. Consistently, you’re the earliest source for gun news in my subscriptions.
An SOT made an 80% into a post- sample machinegun, so now all 80%s are machineguns.-ATF smoothbrain thought process.
It's illegal until you pay big brother
Remember when executive agencies just enforced constitutional laws instead of making and enforcing unconstitutional ones
Dismantle The ATF
I would LOVE to see the ATF go after the owner of the custom bodywork and paint shop I was working at when I became disabled (from a car into my motorcycle accident, not due to the shop) because we built a spraygun cleaner using 6 solvent traps made by a certain Georgia machine company! Talk about self owning if that hits court.
We will not comply
Some smart Lawyer needs to make a class action lawsuit. Get all the folks that were mailed this bs letter.
ATF made themselves Above the Law.
A modern day Gestapo.
They’ll be coming for your flashlight next. Then it will be your spare oil filters.
So to be clear. If you submit a Form 1 for a solvent trap you are pretty much telling the ATF that you have an unregistered silencer (even tho it's not) at home? This is madness.
It's literally the pot tax. When prohibition started hundred years ago, you could legally possess cannabis after it began if you had a 'Cannabis Tax Stamp' only problem is you had to present the cannabis to the issuer to receive it, in which you were arrested immediately because you didn't have said Tax Stamp to make it legal...
No’ your telling them you plane to make one. You don’t need parts to file a form1.
@Joseph Roach "This is, in fact, the implication" Nailed it.
@@TacticalBuffoonary you do, however, need the length, which you won’t have unless you completely scratch build one and make it to your specification. If you plan on using pre-made parts and finishing them after approval, you need parts in hand to measure to put the correct length on the form 1.
@@blcouch typically you can make it shorter than what you initially list as length, send them an update on the new length and G2G. So file with 12 inch length and then update to the final length after the build.
Thanks for making this video. Idk how I haven’t heard about this yet, but I’m sure I know why I haven’t heard it on the news. 👍
Did a Form 1 on mine, all legal here. Was getting ready to do another this year. I'm a machinist, with the proper machinery I could make one a helluva lot better than the solvent trap.
Thanks for the heads up Mike. Gun cleaning is so noisy...after all😀👍
Just imagine if they went after real criminals instead of trying to create some!
Since when did ATTEMPTING to acquire a solvent trap or parts become illegal ? And in the letter the ATF has already determined that whatever parts they are referring to is a silencer and/or parts with the intent to make a silencer . Quite a leap stating that the parts when sold was legal and that they knew exactly what the purchaser was going to do with them . Merely buying a legal product does not prove intent to make the item into an illegal item and they will lose ever court case if try .
Didn't the company "q"just get a letter sitting there silencers are not quiet enough and that they're not legally silencers or suppressors. Very confusing world
If they US mailed fraudulent information isn’t that a felony?
Regardless of how the NFA is written, the federal government (NOT just the ATF) has NO authority to prevent a private individual from purchasing ANYTHING, regardless of whether it's related to Firearms or not. The ONLY authority the federal government has is to regulate interstate commerce, and even then, they can only regulate the sale of goods and not the purchase meaning that I can buy whatever I want, I just can't sell regulated items across state lines without the feds permission.
I know you don't enjoy making these videos but I do appreciate them. Thanks!
Waiting to see if they send a letter to pipe fitters.
Or local hardware store.
They should press charges on me immediately.
Sounds like a good reason to gather for a “peaceful” demonstration/march like all the others.
If you're an undercover fed.
When it all falls apart any former "FED" encountered should be asked "Where's your AFT forms now?", or "Double standards for justice? You are the reason this is happening...not us."
I've remember seeing solvent traps at gun shows and I'm surprised this hasn't happened sooner.
Same. Dancing right at the edge of the regulations seems like a really good business strategy if you want to try enticing negative attention from the ATF.
Interesting point you made about those raids without actually charging for a crime, that they were basically armed robbery. Have there been any cases where people got their illegally seized property back once it was determined that they weren't criminals? Or does the ATF always keep those stolen goods with impunity every time?
Now this is criminal; who ever wrote this nonsense needs to get a felony instead.
You cant hand out felonies and snatch up parts from people because they may manufacture a suppressor!
And who says they wouldn't register it, They casually stole info and equipment from a company for no reason to attack their customers.
in that case im surprised they aren't raiding their local pepboys seeing as you can order suppressors there too.
Exactly. And let's not lose sight of the fact that we shouldn't have to register a damn thing anyway.
What a bunch of horseshit. Appreciate the update Mike, thanks.