Exploring Frederique Constant (Review) & Resale Value of Wristwatches
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- In this wrist watch review I present you two models by Frederique Constant and give you some background and my thoughts about the brand. Topics are sizes, the finish, the movement, the bracelet and more. Is it worth the money? Is it a proper entry level dress watch?
Plus: Some thoughts about the resale value of wristwatches. What really means a high or low resale value for you as a buyer?
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Good Archie impression, Tim.👌
fully mechanical ROWLECKS ROWLECKS ROWLECKS!!!
Fuck me dead ! Lol
Your description of winding feel & satisfaction can not be over emphasized. My 861 Speed-Master is one of the smoothest winding I own, like butter. Purest happiness with every wind 👍 Makes this Omega a favorite.
That rose gold Frederique Constant is gorgeous!
Beautiful peices! Just the way they are.OMG I absolutely love them. Very prestigious and regal looking.
I just purchased the FC MANUFACTURE CLASSIC WORLDTIMER FC-718NWM4H6. Amazing watch. Looks great with the blue face. Fits perfect on my wrist. With the in-house movement it is a great value for all that you get..
Always enjoy your videos, Tim, especially your honest and 'unbiased' (and not sponsored) take on things! Not convinced of your Part 2 though, as it would be foolish/fruitless to try and convince someone in the market for a US$900 watch to buy a US$10,000 watch just in order to not lose money in the future? And whoever bought that US$900 watch will lose US$400 the moment they walk out of the store with the watch on their arm as per the values quoted in your video, as many people do not want the hassle or has the knowledge to buy pre-owned and rather buy from stores at retail price (for every watch available at US$500, someone had to buy it at US$900). Rather, the question is which watch brand to buy at the price point you can afford, and even more important, which model from that brand to buy as not all models retain or increase their value over time. Hope I haven't misinterpreted your reasoning!? Keep up the good work, and how about showcasing some more guitar playing to end off your videos...:)
As far as I’m concerned, FC makes very attractive dress watches with reliable movements and solid finishing quality.
They aren’t really my style though. I very rarely wear formal attire and I don’t wear suits at work so I’m not the target demographic for these watches. Every now and then, when the time comes for me to wear a nice suit, I tend to prefer the look of a vintage watch or at least a new watch with vintage styling. Also, I have 7.25” wrists but I still tend to prefer smaller watches. 38’s are ideal for me most of the time. 40mm works well for me when it comes to sport watches but for field watches or dress watches, I really prefer a 37 or 38. I think FC makes several 42-43mm models which is kind of crazy for a dress watch.
With all of that said though, I have no ill feelings about Frédérique Constant whatsoever. I think they make quality watches throughout an incredibly wide price range and I’m sure they are lovely to own if you’re someone who loves that particular type of style.
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They are 40-41mm
They should make 34 and 37 or 33 and 36 or an average 35 mm for small dress watches, those diameters are going to be back.
Thanks Tim. 2 nice looking watches there 👍
I have an FC watch from their Manufacture line (in-house movement) and I am very happy with it. The crown is shaped slightly differently which makes it easier to wind compared to an Omega Speedmaster. My FC watch also has a blue dial and I think it looks gorgeous on hand.
Which one do you have?
FC703N3S6B Slim Line Moonphase
Tim you nailed it with FC. I purchased one about 10 years ago when i just started collecting. Great watch, attractive and very reliable. That said, I made a mistake and I chose the "rose gold" finish which you cannot polish. I still get compliments on the watch when I wear it.
Did the finish survive all this years or do you see base metal now?
@@CasebackWatches the finish is fine you don't see the base metal. It's just the usual scuffs and small scratches that drive me nuts and i can't have them polished out. Maybe there is a company out there that re-coats cases?
Nice Video, I agree that in most cases people forget the cost of entry for a brand. Anyway, I am yet to hear a financially sound rationale which explains this hobby altogether. For most of us, buying watches is an expense and not an investment. FC manufactures fine watches, many with in-house movements which is a significant matter.
Awesome and candid review as always Tim. Was thinking of picking up one of their Horological Smartwatches as I'm a bit sick of mechanical, just want a grab-and-go watch on a busy day and it seems like the perfect watch, albeit a bit on the dressier side and 42mm is a tad large for me. Any thoughts?
i liked both of those watches , but i preferred the rose gold , & both looked good on your wrist tim .
I think their slimline moon phase was their big breakout watch. I owned that watch and loved it, but could never defend it to my fellow watch colleagues. I loved that watch - incredible value.
I almost bought that watch. It had a real Vacheron look. It was very classy.
Great video …. I just buy a watch because it looks great to my eyes. Then I hunt through the internet for the best price. I recently got a Meistersinger Primatic 365 limited edition of 100 watches from an A.D for £1236. RRP was £2300. I love that watch and at half price I love it more. 😊😊
I love the slimline moonphase, especially the exhibition caseback, but for me the no seconds hand is a dealbreaker. At least have a small seconds!
I agree with the feel of the movement.... What is the minute had in relation to the second hand?
I know exactly what you mean about the pull, and the winding. For me it’s like opening and closing a high-quality door vs some cheap door with poor hinges. Or opening and closing a quality retractable pen vs one that you bought in a pack of 3 from the stationery store.
Do you recommend any of the FC brand being good beginners ladies watches that have a decent resale value?
What is it with dress watches at 40mm?! I am not a small man but I just see little style and/or finesse in a dress watch above 38mm.
Their flyback two-tone chrono is gorgeous. I don't really care about resale as I like to pick things up at the bottom of their depreciation curves.
I never buy watches or firearms with the idea of resale in mind. I search out what I want and if I'm lucky enough to find it, I buy it and keep it. But I understand some youngsters trying to trade up until they feel they've arrived instead of being confident and wearing what makes them happy.
The Frederique Constant brand represents excellent value for beautiful watches, some even with in house movements. For the money I can’t fault it barring that stiff grainy feel when you wind the watch or adjust the time. That’s a definite downer. A sharp contrast to winding a Rolex or Tudor.
I like your stile and how you explain stuff. good video!
Thank you!
They make the best watches bought one and happy for 15 years
I own a Frederique Constant moon phase. I wanted a moon phase watch. I would have preferred a Blancpain, but the FC was a beautiful choice at a much lower price. Even though I purchased it at an AD, I got a 25% discount. It's probably a keeper, but if I ever sell I won't lose all that much. I've seen prices for used FC's on Chrono24 and they are similarly priced to the one I got new.
I like Archie Luxury, but if we only listened to him our collections would be rather limited and repetitive and EXPENSIVE.
I have purchased watches at this AD before. If you are anywhere near Los Angeles I would go to Feldmar's watches on Pico. The starting prices for most of their watches are already below MSRP. I didn't haggle that much, so I might have been able to get an even better deal.
Hi Tim, would love to hear you review some more German brands. Im partial to the Stowa marine 36 and antea ks rose, as well as the GO sixties with that crazy dial texture.
Good idea! Stowa is definitely on my list.
The design of Frederique Constant watches remind me of Orient watch designs. The Swiss version of Orient, you can say. They are nice dial designs though. Would take an Orient over FC, given the price difference and similar looks. And same drawbacks as well, especially the could-be-better straps.
Nice video .. FC is good value and they say every watch is handmade...is that right?! I just bought my first FC classic chorno silver watch and waiting for its arrival!
Beautiful designs. Who cares about resale? Watches are not investments!
I have a collection of 37 wrist watches, nothing fancy, starting from a G-Shock, going through some Seikos, Orient Stars, Jungnans, and ending with an 50's gold Omega Turler, but I have not considered selling any of them. I... don't want to :) So the resale value is not my concern. Is that a bad thing in your opinion, Tim?
The feel of the movement is part of the movement itself right?
So I assume it's like that for all SW200 movements, at least, one of my watches has an SW200 that also feels a bit "toy-ish".
I also have an SW200 equivalent of ETA, the 2824, which feels better.
The bracelet looks good, looks like IWC rice bracelet , lovely dial too, a little Chopard LUC look
Some of the certina watches have the very same bracelet .
The FC watches I have seen are beautiful; even the quartz watches are beautiful
You are awesome , my friend … very funny too . I love your channel .
I do like FC. It is a perfect dress watch. It is not in the sports watch category nor I like the sports watches but the most of consumer seems follows the sports watch. I think it is value for money. For Rolex it is simply supply and demand. But with now the overall demand for watch is diminishing, I think the assumption of Rolex resale value will also be questionable.
The rosegold one is stunning😍 - 1000 euro on chrono right now. Telling about re-sell value
well done!!
Tim you mention using the forums. Can you tell us how to use them to our advantage please.
Prego! ;-) th-cam.com/video/rqFE6bnfW8s/w-d-xo.html
I am looking to get a new certina DS 4. What do you think ? Thanks
I haven’t seen it in realty yet, but on the images seems to be a pretty cool watch.
Excellent video...
There is nothing much wrong with FC. But on a tight budget in 2022, Tissot is hard to beat.
Buy that FC on the used market for 40% off retail, then try to sell it and you will still get slammed
Hi Tim, I really enjoy your analysis of other watch TH-camrs.
Perhaps you could analyse Craig Shipp. You should find him the most unusual so far. He’s quite immature and narcissistic.
Interesting that the Roman numeral four is correctly shown as IV rather than the IIII. I think the dials look great.
i shudder at the word correctly in this context. IIII is in no way more ore less correct than IV. Go into the city and have a look around if you live in europe.
For Latin numeral system it is completely incorrect. For watch and clock faces it was in my understanding a default option. I heard a hypothesis that it has to do with the balance of simple lines - first four hours, second lines with V - hours six to eight, and third lines with X. But I don't know how much truth there is in it.
Calling all watch geeks! Has anyone seen any manufacturer, Swiss, Japanese, whatever, that continues with tick mark lines all the way to the 12 ( IIIIIIIIIIII)? I think this would look really cool, albeit unbalanced, but can't believe it hasn't been done yet.
Just a little disappointed he didn’t choose those in house caliber watches.
FC-760N4H6 has really nice flyback mechanism though.
I agree but the older the watch, to trade-in you will never get 100% dependant on the model. The AD / boutique will take some coin...
Loved the pink/rose gold plated version - but like your good self - a little too big for my tastes as a dress/business watch. The waffle center part of the dial is lovely though. If it was my money and I only had €850-1000 would look for a solid gold vintage hamilton/omega maybe?
I've owned once a 18k Omega Constellation. Lovely watch, but they go for way more than 1000 now ... Hamilton is maybe more affordable.
@@CasebackWatches Hi Tim, thanks for the reply - certainly I think most decent Constellations would be out of the price range - but something like this (www.lunns.com/pre~owned-watches/Brands/Omega/0870510349) - although at the top end of the budget could be an option for similar money - especially as £Sterling has hit the floor...... :)
Link doesn't work anymore. You've bought it! :-D
@@CasebackWatches lol don't know why that doesn't work, but this should www.lunns.com/pre~owned-watches/Brands/Omega/0870510349
Winding my cheap Nomos Orion is a pleasure that i dont get from any eta/sellita that i own.
Cheap hahahahahaha
Our frames of reference keep changing with every new video/watch added to the collection
"cheap"
The pink gold looks very good, however, someone made a mistake and used a yellow gold buckle.
You're right, I haven't noticed that.
Great video. Can you do a video about whats your thoughts on water resistence (especially if 3 ATM are enough for normal dialy use in the office), would be interesting to see.:)
Good suggestion, thanks. I will consider that.
FC, at least when they started out, was an homage brand to brands like VC, PP - similar to invicta to rolex.
I love Frederique Constant
Great watches
Good vid
I've just bought the open heart version. Its genuinely tremendous.
I’m considering buying the white dial open heart classic, has it been good for you?
I have the open heart version it is awesome . Open heart version sells for 3,000 dollars retail but sometimes you can find it for 800 used if you are lucky .
@@qazifaisal5 passed it on since this post with a a over 30% profit. Very happy with that.
It feels like a seiko? Im gonna get so many hate for that...
It's always the bracelets on these cheaper watches... they always have smooth, plain finishing, or the proportions are too symmetrical. Cartier Santos bracelets or Rolex jubilee are to me the most beautiful, balanced and nicely finished bracelets. This is also an area where the Patek Nautilus deserves it's accolades.
Alot of people don't take into account that your Rolex (if you manage to get one for RRP in the first place), has to be kept in good value to get 100% back. Also you will have to pay for services etc, which are very pricy for Rolex's. Noone seems to take that into it when they say they will get their investment back. If you service your watch every few years, thats thousands lost in servicing.
I don't understand why people buy with the future resale value in mind. My opinion towards collecting is you buy because you like the watch in its purity. If the priority is its future resale, then you're just limited to only 3 brands: Rolex, Patek, & Audemars.
Seiko 5 while saving for Rowww.......
Wish you had reviewed a ladies watch. My wife owns one and its one of her least favorite. The way the band attaches to the case is not good as it sticks slightly past the bottom of the band and the studs will rub slightly on the wrist making it slightly uncomfortable. Also its just to heavy for a womans watch. I noticed the links are put together with a rod that is not directional and they are hard to get out to adjust it.
Tim, to me, that 40mm FC size looks great on your wrist- not too big at all. Nice! Cheers, E
At that price point, I think that Longines is making more interesting and attractive watches lately.
and cheaper than FC too. thats crazy.
It’s a butterfly clasp BTW
Also called a deployment clasp (USA)
Azure Sea deployant*
I was surprise the steel FC looks exactly like a Mido ocean star I purchase not to long ago, even the bracelet looks the same. I paid 90.00 on ebay works great
Being a it nerdy but, why on earth did FC not match the pink gold watch with a pink gold buckle, rather than that gold one? Very annoying.
Happ Birthday ,Have a great day!
Thank you!
Archie would say it's a shitter ! Fuck me dead. Lol
What's the watch in the thumbnail? It's stunning!
That's the Frederique Constant Tourbillon 18K Rose Gold Limited Edition. Not exactly entry level, but when I saw the image in their press department I couldn't resist ;-) Retails at 17.000 Euro ...
@@CasebackWatches Thanks, found it after some research. But I could not find it for less than 30.000. There are only 188 produced. That's the dream from now on. Everything I ever wanted in a watch. Thanks for showing it.
@@lemmontree1 You're right! The retail price is way higher. Here I've found it used: www.hushhush.com/watches/frederique-constant/limited-edition-frederique-constant/frederique-constant-tourbillon-18k-rose-gold-limited-edition/
You look like John Dillinger!
Somebody told me this before. Not sure if this is good or bad. ;-)
Butterfly clasp
Thanks!
I only like the FC-760N4H6. That's it.
Same here.
Never heard Citizen pronounced like that :)
Rolex? They all look pretty much the same don’t they, where do they get the prices from?
Better looking than that Rolex.
Love watches for what they are only watch snobs buy watches for resale value most Everyday guys we buy watches for what they are
remember, Its all nice if your on the spot for cash, and you just happened to find a watch expert on the roadside who will open your Rolex to verify it authenticity, good luck.
Some Chinese fakes are AAA rated almost perfect looking. Will some watchmaker just open your watch, verify its value, give you some certificate or follow you to where you need the cash fast and speak for you of its value ? What guy will even believe your certificate is worth the paper its written on ? Good luck
Get a Zenith El Primero Chronomaster ,( ten times more fantastic looking that a Rolex Divers bezel plain watch)
It's called a dual deployant or sissor style clasp
lol i know exactly who you are talking about
Once I bought Frederique Constant (~ $5000) to my wife for thirtieth anniversary of our marriage. It stopped on the fifth day. (We were in Finland that time and could not find where to serve the watch.) As we came back to Israel I gave the watch to the service. They tried to repair it instead of changing. Till now the watch is in the box while the company sends me congratulations any holiday. Thank them for their anxiety.
Rowlecks! Rowlecks! Rowlecks!
So basically get in from an AD and youre in the Rolex game and can't lose.
Lol maybe just depends on if they’re a prick or not 🤷♂️
Those are my favorite watches .
Die Armband heisst SCHMETTERLING
The problem is too big. In this case big is not better! bring it down to at least 38. You are not competing against Invicta.
Resale value is a stupid topic. No-One Knows really what it will be in the long run.
What I know is that an FC is about 1000 and 4000$ for the most part, with at least 6000 to 9000 saved on buying an FC instead of a rolex hard to get from AD or to buy it even more expensive on the grey market; I know that if I have bought it 10 years ago, my savings would have been multiplied by 2.
If I bought a FC at 4000 and I save 6000 in 10 years I get:
A resale value of 2400 and a capital of around 12000
Grand total: 14400
I am not sure that a submariner at 10000 will go high enough to beat it, and I am talking at retail price
If I buy it at 12000, the increase of price will be even more hazardous and it would have meant I would have saved 8000 which leads to 18400$ after resaling the FC and the stocks.
Never forget, you can invest the difference and it can make a better financial choice.
ROWLECKS ROWLECKS ROWLECKS
Archie is overrated... he just yells for money. I have a FC Highlife and three rolexes and FC is a great brand!!! I am actually looking at a quartz (I know omg) but the FC business timer is a great dress watch to me.... that's what counts...
ETA movement like Tissot. This is costume jewelry with 3rd party parts. The value will drop like a rock as soon as you pay for it. Investment no, costume jewelry yes.
This brand is not really affordable its on the higher end of entry level luxury watches I have the open heart . The open heart retails for $3,000 usd you an find them used anywhere from 800 to 1,000 dollars if y1our lucky .
i consider all men's watches to be a men's toys.
Roll eggs
Roll eggs
Lol
Citizian? Really? Like Really? Ci-Tiz-Ian???
You are saying that if I buy a Rolex Date just gold and steel from an A.D. at $12,300 I can sell it let's say within a month for the same price? To whom? That my friend is not true. My brother lost over $3000 on his new 2017 Rolex Cellini his ex wife gave him on his birthday. He tried Chrono 24,watch forums and e_bay and after 6 months of trying to get the most for his watch still lost over $3000. I wish people stop lying about Rolex not loosing value the internet is making fools of people and people are sheep. Buy what you like and fall in love with your purchase don't let this so called experts tell you what to buy when they may be getting sponsored by this brands.
Luis, I’m talking here about the wanted and popular models. The Cellini is by no means popular. I‘ve recently sold a DJ with a loss of no more than 400 Euro within days.
@@CasebackWatches like I said there will always be a loss. Don't take it personal I like your channel you are one of the few honest and respectful people on you tube keep up the good work.
@Luis Padilla No worries, I don't take this personal. On the contrary. It's very satisfying to meet people with own opinions and views on youtube.
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I owned a FC classics automatic about 5 years ago. New from ebay..Just like the model shown on the youtube. Junk!! Open up the back to look at the movement... unfinished, Sellita equivalent movement to ETA.. plastic movement holder.... cheap.. cheap... cheap... Avoid this brand.... probably made in China case & bracelet.
There's better watches out there than watches, that have a better resale price, I like rolex watches either they're overrated,
It's Citizen* ("Bürger" in German, which I assume is your native language, given your accent) not "si-ti-sian". Also, when you're not a native-English speaker, there is no need to pronounce a French-language name as if it was English. "Fre-de-riek Con-ston' ", not "Fred-rick Conn-Stent".
Sh!tter...
If you buy enough Frédérique Constantine ;), you’ll be able to afford air conditioning.
People who need air conditioning in northern Germany are "Luschen". You can translate this to "pussies" ;-)
FC is ok for someone not into watches. Personally, I would never buy one. They don't have a story. I'd rather get a vintage Seamaster or something like that.
philips defreville Same.