Hats off to Randy Pobst. 1:34.30 is literally the exact same lap time that he achieved with a different ZL1 1LE on Ignition Ep. 179. Talk about consistency.
Randy is pretty consistent, however I am thinking they simply used the BDC lap for that Ignition episode, as all of the BDC filming was done months ago.
Dear TH-cam, I made a mistake when I was recording the voice over for the lap videos involving this car, the Chevy Camaro ZL1 1LE, and the AMG GT R. Our video team then made the mistake of trusting me, and the video went up containing an erroneous finishing order. 100% on me, it's my mistake, and I'm sorry that it happened. I 'll tell you a funny anecdote that maybe partially explains why (though not really, but hey, I feel bad). We close down highway 198 to evaluate all the contenders for Best Driver's Car. There's a certain spot where if you hit a certain bump just right, you can get the car on two wheels. Naturally, our photographers love it. As they should. So, a few of us went back with a few cars and spent the 30 final minutes of daylight being stunt drivers. I was in the AMG GT R. After the sun set and we were finished, we ran back down to the rest of the group and jumped in different cars to head off to dinner. I happened to hop in the ZL1 1LE. My buddy called me to ask how Best Driver's Car was going. Since I'd just spent all that time in the GT R, I started by telling him how great the AMG was. I then mentioned how I'm driving it as we're talking, it's so badass, etc. But then I came to a corner and had to slow down and shifted with the manual-shifter and it hit me: I'm actually in the Camaro! But the two cars are so close in character, temperament, and Alcantara steering wheels, that I got confused. My point, mistakes happen. We're all sorry it happened, and we're going to put better processes in place going forward to make sure it doesn't happen again. Once more: I'm sorry. Thanks, and thanks for watching, - Jonny -
Jonny is awesome . As I have said , one of the many reasons I continue my 20+ year subscription. Now , if I can only find a way to infiltrate and steal his job...
As a Camaro owner (2018 Camaro 2SS) it makes me proud seeing videos like these, I love it and it reminds me of why I chose Team Camaro over mustang or challenger, I love my Camaro!
@@lolyouwontfindme6070 yes thats pretty much a drag race but not from a dig but im referring to corners... they need that 1le package for them. My friend owns a 2019 camaro ss no 1le but its too soft. And cornering is not too great. Raw power is good thou.
Stormtrooper 2323 oh yea I get what u mean, well yea I guess I understand on a track the regular SS (without the 1LE package) sucks, but like I said I mostly street, well highway race (rolls only) and it’s pretty good and is faster than what you’d expect
You know what I was thinking the same thing. And to be honest with you I really think that pretty much every automaker to date puts out pretty good-looking cars I don't think there's a bad looking car on the road. Even cars like Kia, Toyota Camry, Honda Civic, cars that aren't normally exiting looking actually look pretty dang good. I really don't think any of the new cars look bad
Amazing driver and imo the ZL1 1LE is already a classic man ! Amazing powertrain, brakes and suspension, way faster than it's price suggests ( in hands of pro drivers ofc ).
I've read and reviewed almost uncountable reviews of both the hot Camaro's and the 'Vette's and, in all of this research the ZL1/1LE is the better car in every single instance. From a pure performance perspective. This has been an eye opener for me. Especially considering the 'Vette is supposed to be the Halo car. And, considering the price difference. GM needs to introduce the Camaro Team to the Corvette Team. The former are outdoing the latter for far less price to the potential consumer. For many decades the 'Vette was the clear Bang for the Buck King of the Hill. Seems to me the Camaro has dethroned the former King in this category.
Unreal!! As a European car fan for years, I thought I'd never ever hear myself say I'd get a Camero over a M, AMG or RS car but this thing for the money is mind boggling. I just wish the interior was a little better.
The Problem is that you have to buy a luxury car...if you want a FAST european made car. They don't make fast RWD cars for the middle class..like the Pony cars and nissan Z.
With the money you save take $5k and go to a custom upholstery shop and tell them exactly what you want and pick your Camaro with your dream interior up in two or three weeks. Go for it!
Trevon Adams If it wasn’t for German/Japanese cars , American cars would still be complete garbage as they were for the last 40 years , they were going bankrupt because they made shit ,have some respect , Mercedes made the first car.. BTW I bought a 2002 Yukon for 50,000 back then , go see what it’s worth now! Dumbass !!!
Zero Cool Only the rotors and calipers depending on the manufacturer. Nissan brakes are only sourcing the rotors. There's way more to a brake system that determines how well it performs. pad compound, brake fluid, the computer ABS system, tires, brake lines, booster etc.
After taking a closer look at the ZL1 1LE. Its an absolute beast. Finely designed from the chassis to the frame to the all the components. The ZL1 is next level no question.
So awesome. Just met Johnny Lieberman in the canyons with my Camaro ZL1. He liked it but didn't like the video i showed him of me money shifting it lol.
Lone Ranger Maybe a year or so till someone makes a better track car.. The point i was trying to make that muscle cars are outperforming high dollar import vehicles at a value... Basically im trying to say European cars are not as great as people make them out to be.. The proof is here..Yes i will gladly go deaf driving one of these beasts..
"Sure, but the question is how long it will last." The car will last 200k+ miles. Chevy actually has the most awards for Dependability of any brand. ALOT longer than a BMW, LOL.
Lone Ranger dnt bullshit anyone i life in germany and "premium" bmw m3 m4 never got more then 100 000 km garantie maxx and only if u pay for or just 50 000 km It always depends on how u drive it ;)
If you tack on price tag's, that is some $ dollar cars that camaro and corvette are fighting it out with, nismo is 175grand, 570gt is 200grand, and amg starts at 157grand. Those 3 cars could easy be a bit more since not sure about spec's of them. camaro and corvette are what 80-90grand or so topped out. half price to even 1/3rd the just as much performance on track.
This is the bargain of the century right here. Smoking supercars on the track for that price.... Extremely impressive. Bet some will still say lol US cars dont go around corners. Theyve caught the Euro brands QUICK
Nothing wrong with forth when the other 3 cost twice to 5x as much or more and total production of the 3 combined will be less then the ZL1 1LE. The fact that we are comparing Camaro to a near half million dollar Ferrari with a total production of only 1200 cars says it all.
@Bare Knuckle the BMW M2 compétition is 85,000 dollars and has only 400 hp, also stop complaining, because if interior was better the car would cost 110,000 dollars.
@Bare Knuckle M4 competition only has 400 hp, also M4 isnt reliable, have fun with breaking components and 70K price repairs, also anyone pays 70K to win races, which is why sports cars are still for sale.
@Bare Knuckle Also, M4 is less reliable, there are V8 Corvettes at 700,000 miles, there are camaro’’s at 200,000 miles with cheap repairs and cheap maintenance, also M4 competition is 75K while having only 400 hp with a bad quality squeaky interior.
I have been daily driving a 19 zl1 1le for about two weeks now. The suspension isn't actually thaaaaaat stiff. The thing that makes it a less than ideal daily in my opinion is how low the front splitter is. You really really have to pay attention driving this thing but honestly it makes it kinda fun that way.
It wasn't rigged Mike. At least not the times they post. The filmed part is partially rigged so they can get good shots of what a perfect race should look like, but the times are from each cars fastest run.
Adam S, Yes it was rigged so Tesla would get a win in the drag race...as the Turbo S tied the Tesla in a previous race. All of the greatest drag race videos are just for show and they use the times from the individual testing done previous on the cars in normal testing. Rs7 Vs. P100D they ran the 911 turbo S against the P100D and they tied in ET(10.5) and the 911 was 5+mph higher in trap speed. This track running was also rigged...as the 488GTB was a "ringer" car with NON-stock cup tires.
I wouldn't call what they are doing for filming purposes the same thing as rigging. They ran all of the cars here on the strip enough to get a best time for each, do some real races between all of them, and then if they need they do some mock filming runs to get the right (appearance of ) timing on all the cars. The fact is all the cars here ran the times they posted. Whether they ever actually got a perfect race between 12 cars is unlikely.
Wow for 70 Grand you got yourself a supercar killer. Makes you wonder how the others overpriced their vehicles just because of brand name but people will still buy them.
They are different types of car. The other super cars are luxury performance sports cars. They tend to be much more exotic. What is special about this is that America can build fantastic cars that working people can afford.
I'm a Ford guy, but I concede and tip my hat to Chevy's engineers. What a time to be alive. American car manufacturers are so competitive and doing so well rn.
The 2019 ZL1 1LE is now offered with the fast shifting 10 speed auto! It would be interesting to see how much faster Randy can go on the same track with the auto compared to the manual if at all! Do it!
@@covector4787 The GM A10 sometimes overheat on track and fails to produce consistent lap time gains, so no, the automatic transmission is not better for this car under serious track use. Porsche's PDK is a different story altogether
Unintentionally funny: "Then you have the specially-developed tires from Goodyear, that provide tremendous amounts of grip..." + *editor inserts shot of massive oversteer*
@@HitmanNK the ZL1 1LE is a 6 speed manual and the GTR Nismo has a 7 speed dual clutch transmission so course on certain tracks it'll have the advantage due to the dual clutch transmission.
On Nürburgring GTR is faster than Camaro by 8 seconds, but still one cost 150k the other 70k. You must take note that gtr lap has been made in 2013 so with an older version of gtr. Test are pretty reliable
The 5th Gen Camaro SS was a major fail: 400+hp and could barely outperform an 8+ year old 325hp 4th Gen Camaro SS. smh. Don't understand why the 5th Gen got so fat compared to the lightweight F-Bodys.
They're not Corvette engines, they're Chevrolet engines that have been made for years. Besides, the Mustangs take the 5.0 from the F150 and still get beat.
It's sad that this didn't make it into the top 3. That leaves two Porsches, one of which sounds like crap, and the other is hugely expensive and probably automatic, and also the Ferrari.
Actually, you will probably get it, for 73k out the door. I played hell trying to find my 2017 A10 ZL1. All the dealers within 300 miles of San Antonio had allocations reserved. I finally found one, and they gave me a 5k military discount to boot. Of course after gas guzzler, and state tax, the price was back up to the 69k sticker. Stopped by a dealer to pick up some gear oil a couple days ago, and they had two six speed manuals sitting there. One for 59k, and another, for 63k brand new in the box.
Tests a track car on a track to find the best lap times; complains about stiff suspension. really , if you're looking for comfort unclick the 1LE option box. I find it annoying when someone who reviews a car complains about something that is optional when the option to fix what they are complaining about is not only available but also the reason for the car being so good in the first place. IDK im just ranting. but really. the damn car is in the top fastest production cars available and is number one fastest production car under 100k of course it rides like a shopping cart.
Finally an American car with good handling. I really like American muscle cars, I think they look really cool. But the problem with them is that most of them have bad handling compared to European and Japanese cars. But this one is just.. thumbs up! The best American muscle ever! A good way if they want this car to reach European and Japan market. Oh btw, it might be faster than McLaren P1 because Laguna Seca is a short circuit that doesn't give P1 the chance to generate its' power. Try them on longer faster circuits and the P1 will win. Also, McLaren P1 *GTR* is faster than this Camaro for sure.
The Camaro SS can keep up with the M4 in the corners. The Corvettes been throwing blows at the 911 since the late 80s. The americans have had their stuff together since the late 90s.
When you say they had bad handling vs eur cars. Thing is when eur makes a car price is no limit on which they build it. Here in America they kinda have to build it within a budget so it will sell enough to justify the costs to design and make it.
Depends on what you want to do with the car. Sure this is a much better track car....but isn't a better daily driver or straight-line performer. I really need to see MT test the new Widebody hellcat...that would be the one I'd get...if I only had one car to drive all the time.
No one wants to drive in a straight line unless you're pushing around 2k HP. Any lower is a joke now a days. Dodge can keep their drag car on "slicks". That shit is gay.
JerseyMikeP This car performs just as good as the hellcat in straight line and it's a beast on the track. Dodge is still living the 50s and 60s when drag race was popular. People don't really care about drag race anymore, they track their cars.
Kinda sad that the only cars that could manage to beat this in this competition cost at least 120k more, and all of the time was likely eaten by the h pattern, I mean I love driving a stick shift it's a way better experience but, it does cost time on a track and i'm fairly certain that had this been a dual clutch or auto it would have beaten the AMG and the turbo S the 488 is a bit of a bigger gap but who knows if the tranny was good enough maybe
Who even doubted in this Ferrari. It deserves the first place, not because it's a Ferrari but because it's the best drivers car in this group! Best chassis and steering, wonderfull engine and it even sounds amazing for a turbo engine.
KInda disappointing lap time considering it has 650hp, so much downforce aero bits on it, incredibly wide tires (wider in front than some sports cars have in rear) with super sticky compounds, very stiff suspension and overall track focused car.
I bought a ZL1 here in Australia i proudly own the 2019 ZL1 of which there are only 300 in the country. CHEVROLET has done a amazing job with these cars and I smile every time those bald Eagles fire up! 🇦🇺🇺🇲🇦🇺🇺🇲🔥🔥🔥🔥
the company this car is in is pretty amazing. Funny how you kinda have to keep apologizing because its a camaro but its pretty incredible what they have been able to do with this car.
When you always here from reviewers that you will never get near the limits of the car on the street, most of them won't come near the limits of most the cars even on a track. I wonder how far Randy pushes all the car's limits he drives. 8/10 - 9/10 - 10/10?
I've seen on other TH-cam pages where they Hire a Current Racing driver "Superstar" and they are slower than randy's time on the same track in the same car.
Actually the Trofeo R's on the Z/28 are stickier......Gm found that the tires were spinning on the rim during braking and had to sand-blast to rims so the tires would stay in place.
Thats a hell of a lap time. Especially because its a standard. Randy is a beast.
Look for the lap from nurburgring, 7:16:04
The standard 6-speed is the most fun.
Hats off to Randy Pobst. 1:34.30 is literally the exact same lap time that he achieved with a different ZL1 1LE on Ignition Ep. 179. Talk about consistency.
Randy is pretty consistent, however I am thinking they simply used the BDC lap for that Ignition episode, as all of the BDC filming was done months ago.
Adam S Perhaps they did. But the Camaro's are different in BDC than they are in Ignition.
Not really a fan of camaros but I can't help but respect and be impressed by what it's capable of especially for the price.. shit is nuts.
And this is the one I've been waiting for!
Anti Hero It looks great!
This car is essentially making a fool of everything in and around its pay-grade.
Dear TH-cam,
I made a mistake when I was recording the voice over for the lap videos involving this car, the Chevy Camaro ZL1 1LE, and the AMG GT R. Our video team then made the mistake of trusting me, and the video went up containing an erroneous finishing order. 100% on me, it's my mistake, and I'm sorry that it happened. I
'll tell you a funny anecdote that maybe partially explains why (though not really, but hey, I feel bad). We close down highway 198 to evaluate all the contenders for Best Driver's Car. There's a certain spot where if you hit a certain bump just right, you can get the car on two wheels. Naturally, our photographers love it. As they should. So, a few of us went back with a few cars and spent the 30 final minutes of daylight being stunt drivers.
I was in the AMG GT R. After the sun set and we were finished, we ran back down to the rest of the group and jumped in different cars to head off to dinner. I happened to hop in the ZL1 1LE. My buddy called me to ask how Best Driver's Car was going. Since I'd just spent all that time in the GT R, I started by telling him how great the AMG was. I then mentioned how I'm driving it as we're talking, it's so badass, etc. But then I came to a corner and had to slow down and shifted with the manual-shifter and it hit me: I'm actually in the Camaro! But the two cars are so close in character, temperament, and Alcantara steering wheels, that I got confused.
My point, mistakes happen. We're all sorry it happened, and we're going to put better processes in place going forward to make sure it doesn't happen again. Once more: I'm sorry.
Thanks, and thanks for watching,
- Jonny -
What an amazing time.... Car guy mistakes a Camaro for an AMG GT R.
You should get Motor Trend to pin this post Jonny so people can see it and also to let them know it's the real you ;)
Deathbrewer Hi there!
No biggie, you're doing a great job. Please don't bail out like the other hosts!
Jonny is awesome . As I have said , one of the many reasons I continue my 20+ year subscription. Now , if I can only find a way to infiltrate and steal his job...
As a Camaro owner (2018 Camaro 2SS) it makes me proud seeing videos like these, I love it and it reminds me of why I chose Team Camaro over mustang or challenger, I love my Camaro!
The camaros are great on the track only when they have the 1le package. Other then that they only belong in the dragstrip.
Stormtrooper 2323 u haven’t roll raced one have u? They’re pretty great at that as well, plus in my opinion, they’re a great car all around
@@lolyouwontfindme6070 yes thats pretty much a drag race but not from a dig but im referring to corners... they need that 1le package for them. My friend owns a 2019 camaro ss no 1le but its too soft. And cornering is not too great. Raw power is good thou.
Stormtrooper 2323 oh yea I get what u mean, well yea I guess I understand on a track the regular SS (without the 1LE package) sucks, but like I said I mostly street, well highway race (rolls only) and it’s pretty good and is faster than what you’d expect
@@lolyouwontfindme6070 yeah rolling race and straight they better imo then challenger and charger. They are too heavy and burn out wayyyyy too much
The Camaro is fire!!!
Do u still feel that today?
@@blackice7408 I do...2018 ZL1 A10 owner here
This car rocks! Good job chevy
Wait til you see the Z/28
maxxjett films damn good job Chevy....🤘👏
You know what I was thinking the same thing. And to be honest with you I really think that pretty much every automaker to date puts out pretty good-looking cars I don't think there's a bad looking car on the road. Even cars like Kia, Toyota Camry, Honda Civic, cars that aren't normally exiting looking actually look pretty dang good. I really don't think any of the new cars look bad
Ron Konieczka nothing compared to the zl1 1le el1 234
maxxjett films Just wait till you see the 2018 corvette zr1
Amazing driver and imo the ZL1 1LE is already a classic man !
Amazing powertrain, brakes and suspension, way faster than it's price suggests ( in hands of pro drivers ofc ).
I've read and reviewed almost uncountable reviews of both the hot Camaro's and the 'Vette's and, in all of this research the ZL1/1LE is the better car in every single instance. From a pure performance perspective. This has been an eye opener for me. Especially considering the 'Vette is supposed to be the Halo car. And, considering the price difference. GM needs to introduce the Camaro Team to the Corvette Team. The former are outdoing the latter for far less price to the potential consumer. For many decades the 'Vette was the clear Bang for the Buck King of the Hill. Seems to me the Camaro has dethroned the former King in this category.
and you have guessed that perfectly
Unreal!! As a European car fan for years, I thought I'd never ever hear myself say I'd get a Camero over a M, AMG or RS car but this thing for the money is mind boggling. I just wish the interior was a little better.
Nebo600 Americans aren't really good at interior but always do well with bang for your buck.
The Problem is that you have to buy a luxury car...if you want a FAST european made car. They don't make fast RWD cars for the middle class..like the Pony cars and nissan Z.
With the money you save take $5k and go to a custom upholstery shop and tell them exactly what you want and pick your Camaro with your dream interior up in two or three weeks. Go for it!
You do get a good bang for your buck for 70k but in 6 years its worth 7k .
Trevon Adams If it wasn’t for German/Japanese cars , American cars would still be complete garbage as they were for the last 40 years , they were going bankrupt because they made shit ,have some respect , Mercedes made the first car.. BTW I bought a 2002 Yukon for 50,000 back then , go see what it’s worth now! Dumbass !!!
I have a 2017 ss 1le and I'm a very very happy camper I don't have zl1 money but I still smash everyone with what I got
Nice!
Never been a Camaro fan but now all get is Goosebumps and just wispier ever so softly, MERICA....
Nissan, go ask Chevrolet how to make good brakes.
chaos theory please
RB25luvGT35R Multiple sources point out the GTR's weak brakes. At $180,000 it should brake better than a $70,000 Camaro.
only american will buy.
sara z Yes
Zero Cool Only the rotors and calipers depending on the manufacturer. Nissan brakes are only sourcing the rotors. There's way more to a brake system that determines how well it performs. pad compound, brake fluid, the computer ABS system, tires, brake lines, booster etc.
After taking a closer look at the ZL1 1LE. Its an absolute beast. Finely designed from the chassis to the frame to the all the components. The ZL1 is next level no question.
So awesome. Just met Johnny Lieberman in the canyons with my Camaro ZL1. He liked it but didn't like the video i showed him of me money shifting it lol.
70K car out performing and outclassing cars worth 3X as much.. #Bowtie
Lone Ranger Maybe a year or so till someone makes a better track car.. The point i was trying to make that muscle cars are outperforming high dollar import vehicles at a value... Basically im trying to say European cars are not as great as people make them out to be.. The proof is here..Yes i will gladly go deaf driving one of these beasts..
"Sure, but the question is how long it will last."
The car will last 200k+ miles. Chevy actually has the most awards for Dependability of any brand. ALOT longer than a BMW, LOL.
Lone Ranger dnt bullshit anyone i life in germany and "premium" bmw m3 m4 never got more then 100 000 km garantie maxx and only if u pay for or just 50 000 km
It always depends on how u drive it ;)
Lone Ranger
JerseyMike meant 200k *MILES* , not *KILOMETERS* .
"K" means thousand...likt $10k dollars ($10,000).
IF I meant Kilometers I would have put Km.
1.2018 Mercedes-AMG GT R - 1:33.01
2.2018 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 1LE - 1:34.30
3.2016 Mclaren 570gt - 1:34.87
4.2017 Nissan GT-R Nismo - 1:35.01
5.2017 Chevrolet Corvette Grand Sport - 1:35.62
6.2017 Alfa Romeo Guilia Quadrifoglio - 1:39.68
7.2017 Aston Martin DB 11 - 1:40.05
8.2018 Lexus LC 500 - 1:43.40
9.2017 Mazda mx-5 miata RF club - 1:51.43
Comedyspan the hero we all need
Comedyspan Thank you i was hoping this was somewhere.
Good to see the Camaro and GT R beat the GT-R
Ferrari ran sub 1:32. Porsche 911 Turbo S was right behind the AMG GT R
If you tack on price tag's, that is some $ dollar cars that camaro and corvette are fighting it out with, nismo is 175grand, 570gt is 200grand, and amg starts at 157grand. Those 3 cars could easy be a bit more since not sure about spec's of them. camaro and corvette are what 80-90grand or so topped out. half price to even 1/3rd the just as much performance on track.
Thank you
This is the bargain of the century right here. Smoking supercars on the track for that price.... Extremely impressive. Bet some will still say lol US cars dont go around corners. Theyve caught the Euro brands QUICK
INFsleeper x Dynomight just ask the viper acr and zl1 1le if american cars can corner
Then came the mid engined corvette
See C7 GS/Z07:
22.3 Figure 8
Nothing wrong with forth when the other 3 cost twice to 5x as much or more and total production of the 3 combined will be less then the ZL1 1LE.
The fact that we are comparing Camaro to a near half million dollar Ferrari with a total production of only 1200 cars says it all.
@Bare Knuckle nobody buys a sports car for interior.
@Bare Knuckle the BMW M2 compétition is 85,000 dollars and has only 400 hp, also stop complaining, because if interior was better the car would cost 110,000 dollars.
@Bare Knuckle M4 competition only has 400 hp, also M4 isnt reliable, have fun with breaking components and 70K price repairs, also anyone pays 70K to win races, which is why sports cars are still for sale.
@Bare Knuckle I’d rather have a fast track car than a luxurious car.
@Bare Knuckle Also, M4 is less reliable, there are V8 Corvettes at 700,000 miles, there are camaro’’s at 200,000 miles with cheap repairs and cheap maintenance, also M4 competition is 75K while having only 400 hp with a bad quality squeaky interior.
Favorite Camaro so far
I have been daily driving a 19 zl1 1le for about two weeks now. The suspension isn't actually thaaaaaat stiff. The thing that makes it a less than ideal daily in my opinion is how low the front splitter is. You really really have to pay attention driving this thing but honestly it makes it kinda fun that way.
can't wait for world greatest drag race!
It came out last week? It was the worst one they ever made...it was so obvious they rigged it so 1 car could win.
JerseyMikeP sorry, i miss that.. thanks 😁
It wasn't rigged Mike. At least not the times they post. The filmed part is partially rigged so they can get good shots of what a perfect race should look like, but the times are from each cars fastest run.
Adam S, Yes it was rigged so Tesla would get a win in the drag race...as the Turbo S tied the Tesla in a previous race.
All of the greatest drag race videos are just for show and they use the times from the individual testing done previous on the cars in normal testing.
Rs7 Vs. P100D they ran the 911 turbo S against the P100D and they tied in ET(10.5) and the 911 was 5+mph higher in trap speed.
This track running was also rigged...as the 488GTB was a "ringer" car with NON-stock cup tires.
I wouldn't call what they are doing for filming purposes the same thing as rigging. They ran all of the cars here on the strip enough to get a best time for each, do some real races between all of them, and then if they need they do some mock filming runs to get the right (appearance of ) timing on all the cars. The fact is all the cars here ran the times they posted. Whether they ever actually got a perfect race between 12 cars is unlikely.
A 70,000$ camaro can beat gtr's and mclaren's wow go 🇺🇸
Moto Shift 🇺🇸🦅
a 2014 camaro z/28 is faster than a gtr track edition lol
not the 720 tho
Wow for 70 Grand you got yourself a supercar killer. Makes you wonder how the others overpriced their vehicles just because of brand name but people will still buy them.
They are different types of car. The other super cars are luxury performance sports cars. They tend to be much more exotic.
What is special about this is that America can build fantastic cars that working people can afford.
I'm a Ford guy, but I concede and tip my hat to Chevy's engineers. What a time to be alive. American car manufacturers are so competitive and doing so well rn.
I love my 2012 2SS Camaro. This makes me want to take it to the track
Yeah good luck with that.
I Love This Car & It looks Great In Red 😍👍🏻👍🏻
This car is such a beast! Chills watching this. 👍🏾👍🏾
The 2019 ZL1 1LE is now offered with the fast shifting 10 speed auto! It would be interesting to see how much faster Randy can go on the same track with the auto compared to the manual if at all! Do it!
Manual are far better for race car drivers.
@@bighands69 Nope that's not true because the 10th speed was 1 second behind a lamborghini performante on VIR
bighand69 automatics beat manuals now
@@covector4787 The GM A10 sometimes overheat on track and fails to produce consistent lap time gains, so no, the automatic transmission is not better for this car under serious track use. Porsche's PDK is a different story altogether
@@IR-xy3ij you're comparing a traditional automatic to a dual clutch transmission
Camaro is a beast on the track compared to all other muscle cars.
I have watched this video so many times.
Unintentionally funny: "Then you have the specially-developed tires from Goodyear, that provide tremendous amounts of grip..." + *editor inserts shot of massive oversteer*
cudak888 Editor's aren't necessarily car guys
*Handbrake assisted drift
It's called 650lb-ft of torque with RWD ONLY....Something most NON-American supercars know anything about. They are lucky if they have 350
Jonny WTF is with the 488 GTB that isn't on stock tires????
JerseyMikeP groan. What internet rumor are you on about now?
This thing smash the NISMO GT-R!
stop dreaming. i own both. no it won't
HitmanNK It's not a dream boi. Wake up noob. The ZL1 can beat your precious GT-R
@@HitmanNK the ZL1 1LE is a 6 speed manual and the GTR Nismo has a 7 speed dual clutch transmission so course on certain tracks it'll have the advantage due to the dual clutch transmission.
HitmanNK would you like me to send you links of track times for production cars? Lol Nismo gtr got buried
On Nürburgring GTR is faster than Camaro by 8 seconds, but still one cost 150k the other 70k.
You must take note that gtr lap has been made in 2013 so with an older version of gtr.
Test are pretty reliable
Still waiting for the World's greatest drag race 7
the amg or the mclaren will probably win
dennis cheruiyot Definitely the 911 turbo
its out.. today, time was okay, I wish it was a half mile...should have been.
It's out now bro
Looks sick don't you think
Kane johnson Shelby mustang gt350r looks better
True
Looks shit imo... I'd take the amg gtr over this any day
yea for nearly 100k more lol
Ya
I've fallen in love with the 6th Gen Camaro.
I love this video, but I still find myself watching the Camaro Z/28 lap video from BDC 2014.
As an owner of a 2017 Camaro 2SS I'm all the proud to be an owner of the 6th gen Camaros.🙂
The camaro is my favorite car!😍
I love the Zl1 iLE, that car is a monster. I would take it over a Corvette.
venom5809 Yes on the driving, but on the looks the C7 Corvette looks much better
JM M imo I think Corvettes are ugly, Camaros have a much nicer design
venom5809 and u get the extra seats in back if need corvette only 2 seater.. Not comfortable leg room but there are seats in the back of camaro...
@@jmm1174 looks only? the corvette is still a faster and better performing car what are you talking about
I'm a Mustang guy and I think this car is AWESOME!
Gorgeous car!!!
Love it!!! I can't wait to buy a used one!
I feel like I have seen this before...
I felt the same...
Crouching Goat, Hidden Donkey Same i think they reuploaded it cuz I've definitely saw it last night
The last upload had it placed at 5th and this upload has it placed at 4th. Someone messed up.
When you see 911 you say the same. Dezavu
Gergő Harsányi me too my e even yesterday
The 6th gen camaro makes 5th gens look like a joke.
Warhead Urban Exploration The 5th gen was a joke compared to the 4th gen. It was trash until the ZL1 and Z28 came out.
ShoryukenDatAzz very true. The 2010 SS was no quicker than a 4th gen SS.
weight really hurt the 5th gen.
The 5th Gen Camaro SS was a major fail: 400+hp and could barely outperform an 8+ year old 325hp 4th Gen Camaro SS. smh. Don't understand why the 5th Gen got so fat compared to the lightweight F-Bodys.
i’m o f f e n d e d
Camaro > Mustang
*Mustang > Camaro*
Camaro Camaro always over mustang!
Escape for Mankind is Keith Johnson *Camaro>Mustang
Mustang>Camaro
Mustangs don't need borrowed engines to be good, or to win. ;) unlike camaros with LS engines from corvettes
They're not Corvette engines, they're Chevrolet engines that have been made for years. Besides, the Mustangs take the 5.0 from the F150 and still get beat.
How the hell does he talk while doing this?? I can't blink when I'm playing Mario Kart!!
Would have liked to see this in the top 3 instead of 2 Porsche’s and a Ferrari
When you look at the bang for the $, this thing is hard to beat.
I need more money:o
Japanese cars who? European cars what?
I can't hear you over the sound of our V8s.
It's sad that this didn't make it into the top 3. That leaves two Porsches, one of which sounds like crap, and the other is hugely expensive and probably automatic, and also the Ferrari.
looks so mean. i like it
alex.siege 7
Hot Wheels brought me here.
TOM I actually have this exact ZL1 in this color as a hot wheel 😁
@@smithsfan425 There are 1/64 diecast Camaro ZL1 LE? I'm so slow on catching up.
Douglas MacArthur yeah dude came out a while ago. Hot wheels is on their ish lately.
Number 1 for me considering the value per buck
Price as tested $73k so it's going to be what about 98 at the dealership.
this isn't the GT350 my friend lol Most should be selling them for sticker
Actually, you will probably get it, for 73k out the door. I played hell trying to find my 2017 A10 ZL1. All the dealers within 300 miles of San Antonio had allocations reserved. I finally found one, and they gave me a 5k military discount to boot. Of course after gas guzzler, and state tax, the price was back up to the 69k sticker. Stopped by a dealer to pick up some gear oil a couple days ago, and they had two six speed manuals sitting there. One for 59k, and another, for 63k brand new in the box.
Nope my local dealers have then under $70k on the floor
Tests a track car on a track to find the best lap times; complains about stiff suspension. really , if you're looking for comfort unclick the 1LE option box. I find it annoying when someone who reviews a car complains about something that is optional when the option to fix what they are complaining about is not only available but also the reason for the car being so good in the first place. IDK im just ranting. but really. the damn car is in the top fastest production cars available and is number one fastest production car under 100k of course it rides like a shopping cart.
Fuck yeah GM making quality cars again!
TLP Zeus idk about that yet lol
Finally an American car with good handling. I really like American muscle cars, I think they look really cool. But the problem with them is that most of them have bad handling compared to European and Japanese cars. But this one is just.. thumbs up! The best American muscle ever! A good way if they want this car to reach European and Japan market.
Oh btw, it might be faster than McLaren P1 because Laguna Seca is a short circuit that doesn't give P1 the chance to generate its' power. Try them on longer faster circuits and the P1 will win. Also, McLaren P1 *GTR* is faster than this Camaro for sure.
P1 had 1:30:something
fastestlaps.com/tracks/laguna-seca-post-1988
"Finally an American car with good handling" - you're 20-30 years behind the curve on that one.
The Camaro SS can keep up with the M4 in the corners. The Corvettes been throwing blows at the 911 since the late 80s. The americans have had their stuff together since the late 90s.
When you say they had bad handling vs eur cars. Thing is when eur makes a car price is no limit on which they build it. Here in America they kinda have to build it within a budget so it will sell enough to justify the costs to design and make it.
Dodge fanboys be like Hellcat has 707 horsepower! I'll take this any day over a hellcat. It's way more fun to drive.
Depends on what you want to do with the car. Sure this is a much better track car....but isn't a better daily driver or straight-line performer. I really need to see MT test the new Widebody hellcat...that would be the one I'd get...if I only had one car to drive all the time.
Dodge viper ACR rings any bells?
Vincent Phillips
You can't get one brand new anymore.
No one wants to drive in a straight line unless you're pushing around 2k HP. Any lower is a joke now a days. Dodge can keep their drag car on "slicks". That shit is gay.
JerseyMikeP This car performs just as good as the hellcat in straight line and it's a beast on the track. Dodge is still living the 50s and 60s when drag race was popular. People don't really care about drag race anymore, they track their cars.
Kinda sad that the only cars that could manage to beat this in this competition cost at least 120k more, and all of the time was likely eaten by the h pattern, I mean I love driving a stick shift it's a way better experience but, it does cost time on a track and i'm fairly certain that had this been a dual clutch or auto it would have beaten the AMG and the turbo S the 488 is a bit of a bigger gap but who knows if the tranny was good enough maybe
Shutttt theeeee fuuuuckkkkk uppppp
Comes with a built-in spit cup!
Troy Strain lol really
Waiting for the 2018 Mustang
Adidasp4 no offence but that car is so ugly
Adidasp4 L
Still waiting cause it’s so far behind lol
Waiting for a disappointment
Andrew Leibold slow? It has more HP than the SS..
Corvette is losing their ass to Camaro
John Bar not with the new ZR1
FERRARI IS FIRST... and detailed story coverage is on the website.
www.motortrend.com/news/choosing-2017-best-drivers-car/
Miloš Marković Bruh, spoiler alert
After seeing the AMG GTR as 5th, most people should've seen it coming tbh
The 2018 Ferrari FXX K Evoluzione is even faster than that Ferrari, but they haven't test it on Laguna Seca yet.
Who even doubted in this Ferrari. It deserves the first place, not because it's a Ferrari but because it's the best drivers car in this group! Best chassis and steering, wonderfull engine and it even sounds amazing for a turbo engine.
Screw you dude you ruined it for me
KInda disappointing lap time considering it has 650hp, so much downforce aero bits on it, incredibly wide tires (wider in front than some sports cars have in rear) with super sticky compounds, very stiff suspension and overall track focused car.
derbigpr500 still weights around 3900 pounds.
Weight is a very large factor. A car that weighs this much that produced this kind of lap time is extremely impressive
That was my thought too, it didn't even beat the Amg gtr, which has far less power and torque output
kingwindie Yeah but the AMG weights a good bit less. That makes the biggest difference. Power isn't everything.
I mean, it's beating McLarens and Porsches...
I bought a ZL1 here in Australia i proudly own the 2019 ZL1 of which there are only 300 in the country. CHEVROLET has done a amazing job with these cars and I smile every time those bald Eagles fire up! 🇦🇺🇺🇲🇦🇺🇺🇲🔥🔥🔥🔥
I love this so much.. One day for now I just enjoy my 2015 ss 1le
Randy rips the tracks and we have fun with him! Great Bowtie!
This Camaro is a beast! Will be getting one.
Randy's impression of good cars: IT STOPS :D
as a big godzilla fan this camaro my favorite in all these videos best 2017 driver I think it is the best value for money on track by far
Dude is a beast behind the wheel.
so no one guna talk about the bird casually getting beak deep in squirrel booty??? 4:23
Camero obviously dominates mustang and challenger. It truly has come a long way.
Beautiful notes from the Camaro, it's sings and growls.
Thank you for putting a Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 1LE Motortrend
4th place yet it moves like a gold medalist!!! We are living in the golden age of muscle and performance people!!! :D
hopefully i get that car tomorrow... in black
0:37 "tires are incredibly sticky" as he drifts around the corner😂
I always enjoy watching the way Randy Pobst drives, I would like to him break the Camaro record at NURBURGRING. I believe he could.
What a Monster of a car absolutely love this thing.
I've played too many video games. 5 seconds into the video and I'm like "Laguna seca.. oh that turn sucks"
Lol @ the squirrel and crow at the end of the video😂
the company this car is in is pretty amazing. Funny how you kinda have to keep apologizing because its a camaro but its pretty incredible what they have been able to do with this car.
Absolutely love this Camaro. Wish I saved for this ,___,
I could stand it so I bought a 2SS 1LE. Great car!
Camaro ZL1 1LE is 🔥🔥🔥
This is a monster and its awesome. I don't mind owning one.
Second fastest car in the 2017 BDC roster. Fantastic beast, this thing.
4th,slower than an AMG GTR,911 Turbo S and 488 GTB
Best car on the planet!
Randy+V8=good video.
I test drove one... fell in love ... 😍
This Camaro is a Miracle..
Sounds amazing
When you always here from reviewers that you will never get near the limits of the car on the street, most of them won't come near the limits of most the cars even on a track. I wonder how far Randy pushes all the car's limits he drives. 8/10 - 9/10 - 10/10?
I've seen on other TH-cam pages where they Hire a Current Racing driver "Superstar" and they are slower than randy's time on the same track in the same car.
This is one dope ass fucking car I must say!
I love both mustangs and camaros. Both American, both awesome
look at the force from the tire at 3:03 almost came off the rim
Actually the Trofeo R's on the Z/28 are stickier......Gm found that the tires were spinning on the rim during braking and had to sand-blast to rims so the tires would stay in place.
I love it when i walked by showroom it made me think of stock car racing. 🏆