Tha_ville lol a stock hellcat is like .1-.3 seconds faster than a stock zl1. That fat turd can’t even grip without drag radials. So realistically stoplight to stoplight it’s gonna get smoked every time. And let’s not even talk how each performs on the back roads cuz that is just pure embarrassment for the dodge. Leave it to dodge to create the “highest hp” cars and barely take out cars with less power than it.
Enjoyed your video! As a person who is old enough to have owned used Camaro 1969 Z-28 302, 6 Pack & 440 4 Bbl 1970 Challengers and a couple of SD-455 Trans Am’s, I’m one of those people in my 60s now, who saw “the end of the muscle car” when high compression engines left and unleaded fuel became the rule. What’s happened in engineering with today’s modern muscle cars is 17:22 nothing short of astounding. They’re making more power and torque with less cubic inches and providing twice the MPG, those old cars did, under much stricter emissions standards. We all owe a debt of gratitude to the Ford Motor Company. They began the Pony Car segment in 1964, then re-created it again in 2005 with a retro Mustang design that was true to the original. Because of that 2005 Mustang, Dodge came out with the 2008 Challenger, that re-created its original look back in 1970 and then 1971… Then, Dodge found a way to keep getting more and more hp out of them. The Chevrolet Camaro came back in 2010, that morphed the look of the 1969 model, with modern aerodynamics in their 5th generation Camaro. Chevy then re-engineered the Camaro in the sixth generation into being a powerful sports coupe/convertible, that could handle corners and be a more refined driver than any Camaro prior. It was only Dodge that didn’t produce a convertible model Challenger. I think that’s the one big mess they made. But they got so much right in the restyling of the 2015 model, that it didn’t matter that much. As far as a muscle car that stayed true to its roots, the Challenger is hands-down, the winner. Incredible straight line speed with not great cornering. That was what the old musclecar genre was about. Ford and Chevrolet went the route of fast sport coupes. GT cars that could go fast and handle the twisties like they were on rails. I feel very blessed to have seen the rebirth of the Combustion engined Pony Car segment. Most of us had given up on ever seeing them again. Get yours before it’s too late. Because of green energy, we aren’t likely to see them come back a third time. Great video!
Great review RP. Your channel is the reason I bought a very lightly used '18 2SS 1LE last Sept. Amazing car for the money and enough power for me... for now.
My wife has a new LT1 and we absolutely love it. I recently traded my 17 Mustang GT premium in for a new C7 and she traded her Challenger (sxt plus) and I will say the Camaro is pretty much my favorite to drive. There is even a small part of me that kind of likes driving her Camaro a little better than my C7, I think the 10sp vs the 8sp makes the difference. Her Camaro feels so fast and I could only imagine driving a ZL1. They really are a great car and by you having your's for so long is a testament to that. Totally agree with you and my 2 main complaints would be the trunk opening and getting in and out in tight spaces. Visibility isn't really that bad especially compared to her Challenger which was about the same.
I replaced my Corvette Stingray C7 Z51 AT for a 6th.gen Camaro SS in MT. I enjoy the hell of driving my MT Camaro, much better than my automatic transmission Stingray. My Camaro has been more dependable, I got rid of my C7 because of reliability issues, most of the time the Corvette was in the shop, I got tired of it.
Year later for me and this car still puts a huge smile on my face when I get on it. I love everything about it BUT ONE THING. Cant fit my golf clubs in the trunk. Other than that I'm not getting rid of her. anytime soon. I love this car . if your eyeing it make it happen you only live once!
@Frost love it man. You won't regret it . Car is amazing. Be patient though I waited and shopped for the right one at the right price for almost 2 years and mine popped up with 4500 miles at 52k . I stole it. That was 3 years ago though haha
I've never seen someone trade out of regular cars so often. RP spends enough in dealer fees, taxes, and titling over the course of a few years that if he just stayed in one car and saved the money have a super car!
I know what you mean about the power being overkill, I wanted a ZL 1, but after driving the SS 1LE I decided to skip the super charged version. I'm able to actually thrash my car harder than I would be able to do to the ZL 1. Great video
Seriously, why all the youtubers had to get a C8, just wonder. I think you should just keep the ZL1, plus if some reason ya have kids, ZL1 still got space for it.
Riley, you can program the seat to slide back automatically at engine shut off, so you can get in and out easily. Also, the Wildhammer steering wheel in leather is great.
Just subscribed. Your expression while driving is just like me. My ZL1 1LE makes me smile and/or laugh every time I drive it. I agree it doesn’t need anything, but I was just looking at some minor upgrades (cai, pulley, tune for 91 (AZ)) when I stumbled on your videos. I love this car! My brakes squeal too. I got it used. I’ve heard they need to be bedded in properly. I’m hoping once I do that, it will take care of the noise. Nice video!
4:26 Try using a steering wheel cover!! 6:13 I know what you mean!! I had 3 other cars (very limited budget) but my Camaro just seems like It's in a class higher than the rest, even after costing about the same!!! I drive mine with the Traction Control AND the Stability Control OFF, (hold down the traction control button for 5 sec) and I can drift and grip corners with confidence!!! 9:57 It's like driving a cave at first, but you get used to it!!
Nice video. You are the first person that has NOT complained about the stiff ride. I got a 2022 ZL1 1LE in May 2022. You are correct about the car being too much for the street. I will track mine so its ok. Most of the mods you talked about and your CAI are illegal in CA. I used to get excited about these mods but gave up since I am in CA!
Excellent audio quality in this video. I know thats not what people watch these types of videos for. But compared to the average audio quality I hear in these videos, yours is well above. Good work.
in 12 years from know i'll be 24. I'll be looking to buy one my self. Even though i'm only 12 and don't have a driver's licence, my dad gave me a 1994 V6 Camaro coupe. I'm looking to ls swap it and add lots of modifications (for looks and performance).
Hey Riley have been following you for a few years now and like your videos. I currently own a 2017 ZL1 and still to this day LOVE IT and brings a smile to my face every time. You may want to hold on to her until the Z06 new C8 comes out? Continue to have fun in for ZL1 while you wait. That’s what I plan on doing. Btw I agree with almost everything you said about the good and bad about the car. You nailed it!!!!
@@shatz72 I’m currently looking at a 17 zl1 5k miles , 10 speed , I saw forums and TH-cam comments about how the 2017 come with some issues the kit or the fuel pump so just wondering because ima trade my ss for this bad boy!!
@@josepineda9740 yes you are correct the oil pump has been an issue for some owners, 2017 and 2018. I have been fortunate and also had the warranty on my side still if it were to fail. Good luck
I would love to add this car to my stable of muscle cars. I for tbe first ti e own a Mustang and it’s the 21 Shelby GT 500 and I’m blown away by how awesome it handles and how fast it is stock aside from a k & n intake and res delete which added maybe 30 hp which is a lot to get from just those two minor upgrades. Another thing that I am impressed with is the duel clutch transmission which is on par with the Porsche PDK 7 speed. We also have two modified Hellcats both with Magnuson 2650 superchargers and one with a Hellcat 426 stroker motor and E85 triple pump fuel system with a Cam, long tubes and all tbe other mods needed to make over 1000whp safely and the other is just a stock Hellcat 10% lower pulley on pump 93 with just a fuel system upgrade and leg maker to go with the Magnuson in the out of the box stock setup and makes almost 800 whp so probably can call her 900 hp to tbe crank. The 426 is just ridiculously fast but when driven normally you wouldn’t know you have 1200ish motor hp. The Shelby is engineered so perfectly we will not modify the engine at sll because I feel it will hurt the performance on the track because power you can’t control is useless and this car is damn near perfect as is. Tge Camaro ZL1 from wgst hear and from tbe numbers on tbe track is to me like the Shelby and unless you intend on just drag racing shoujd of not be messed with too much. Hellcats don’t handle well in stock form and most people don’t even try to road race them so they are more inclined to add as much power as they can and still hook up to get there 1/4 mile times as low as they can. Hellcats are straight line muscle cars period!! The GT500 and tbe ZL1 are called muscle cars but they are also sports cars tgst now home there own against supercars which is an incredible engineering accomplishments The 426 stroker I’ll never sell but the other one I would like to sell and out the money towards a ZL1 or ZL1 1KE if I can find one and I would want a six speed man for sure. We converted the 436 from a manual to an HP90 because of the massive power and tbe Shelby only available with the 7 speed duel clutch auto so I need a manual
@Daver G Camaro is also more reliable.The camaro computer are also better overall--especially the 2020s-I think the 2019 and 20s are now faster then the hellcat--the computer can really get the car up to speed without wheelspin.I set a budget of 50k--so this was above what I wanted to spend.I got an AWD Stinger instead.Its as fast as I need something to be anyway.
@Daver G I plan on keeping my stinger many years.I wanted AWD because even though I live in GA--the weather fluctuates.Yeah--Sticks r fun--but they are outdated with how quick new autos can shift.Maybe in 5 or so years they put AWD on these American V8s,With 600 plus hp and a good AWD system the car would hit mid 3 all day long--and would be able to do it in many conditions.
@Daver G The stinger is what the SS should have been.When you are at 50k plus and have any car that can hit 155 plus--AWD should at least be an option.I like the stinger because it drives like a V8--it has a lot of torque down low--so its low to midrange punch is great--and you do not have to floor it like a 4 cylinder to get it to go quick.Stinger was not on my radar until I had to unload 2 vehicles to 1 in a short time. It came out on top in many aspects.I look at everything--and I enjoy big fast heavy stable cars.The stinger actually doe not feel heavy--but god forbid a wreck occurs--it is nice to know I have 4k lbs of steel around me and the insurance was very cheap for the Stinger--not many are wrecked or stolen and insurance rates them at the highest safety level with AWD.Plus I own it and have 30k left in the bank.I have had no problems nd noone on the stinger forum has had a major repair like a blown engine or turbo go out.
@Daver G I had an olds aurora over a decade ago that I had setup to do the silver state classic.Amazingly it never wound up in the shop.I also take care of my cars at the dealer and german delaerships always find 500 to 1k in things to repair when you take them in for their 300 dollar oil change.They gave me some discounted 6 year maintenece plan on my KIA--synthetic oil--and the car takes between 6 to 8 quarts is only 50 bucks to have it changed recently--62 total with tax and disposal--so I am pleased with KIAs warranty and maintenence planThe ATS+V did not make my list cause of lack of AWD.Cadilliac should make an AWD and lay off the 20k in electronics--exotic leather and the stuff many folks do not want that can break.German cars same thing--car is a 50k car with 20k in luxuries that I have no interest in.Plus KIA's fit and finish and quality of the materials is on PAR with a Honda Acoord--might not say much but my crosstour I had for 10 years--every button--every part on the car was as tight and new as the day I bought it, this after 10 years of use.
@@tattooed1979 No. I don’t care that Fiat bought Dodge. Dodge still makes incredible cars in my opinion. If anything, Fiat buying Dodge has helped Dodge vehicles, at least the interiors.
@@Matt-sf4hi fiat has Ferrari money,so they don't give a shit about updating an out of date chassis thats why dodge sucks. Look at the Camaro it sucked for so many years until gm came out with the alpha platform. Yay! the challenger can go fast in a straight line. The Camaro is still the better car.
@@nsbioy very true, enjoy them while you can because these overreach corrupt politicians are ruining the automobile. They think we are destroying the planet but don’t have sense enough to read the Bible and understand that God made the earth to last until Jesus returns.
I'm not sure why there's complaints over entry and exit of a sports car. Same for visibility. It's the nature of the beast. In Texas cooled seats are appreciated. In fact, I wish there was a cooled steering wheel.
Anthony’s Automotive I was in the same situation as you when I was younger, I always looked at camaros and dreamed about having one. After lots of hard work I already have one and I’m only 22 without anyone’s help. It’s definitely possible to have one you just gotta stay in a straight path and work hard af but in the end is really worth it.
The whine is sweeter than the exhaust for me , great in depth video , nice to see.. enjoyed your videos I worked for Gotham dream carbs,and the Ferrari, and Lamborghini, Aston and Porsche , all had squeaky brakes and the average client would squall at that all day .... not understanding the brakes abilities under stress ... it is annoying on a 10,000$ car and 400,000$ dollar car ... if your performance minded it’s livable .. if your a red carpet type it will blow
For the driving side gettin in and out use your memory seat buttons. Use the one for exiting/entering to easily get in and out of. I complain sometimes but I love my ZL1
chevy orange 2ss convertible 10 speed 2020 bought it brand new.. happiest man on the planet.. have pulled more ass in this car during covid than my father his father and his father combined. i promise you
I remember I met you in Pontiac for the Dodge Road Kill days and I told you about my slow ass impala lol. It cool to see how far you channel has come since then! I finally got my charger so we can race 😂
I turned in my 17 Hellcat lease and bought a slightly used 19’ ZL1 A10 and have been loving it. I rented a 16 SS and disagree that it’s as fun on the back roads as the ZL1, as I found it was quick but still needed more power to be satisfying imo. The zl1 is just right out of the box in that regard. All subjective of course. I hate how the camaro seats don’t properly recline without being modified. Alcantara looks and feels great but horrible on a high touch point like a steering wheel. The sweat, oil and friction from the hands will degrade it quickly.
I’m following your footsteps slightly. Sold my cammed 2012 GrandSport in January. Just got an opportunity to pick up a mint Blue 2018 Zl1. Backseat much needed with my sons. Great vid and congrats on the C8 👍🏻🏁
I don’t have a problem with visibility, the key is to adjust the outside mirrors correctly. Most people turn the mirrors in too far, which is incorrect.
You answered many of the questions that were on my mind. I presently have '19 Mustang 5.0 but I dont like the lack of low rpm power. Also my Stang is base so I really want some options like active exhaust, bigger info screen (4" now). I work all the time so I prefer to buy a car which already has all that done. This model of Camaro (if I can find a used one) sounds like the answer. Also you mentioned that the lower level SS might be all that I need. But I do like the idea of a rough and tuff factory race car like the ZL1 1LE. I have a daily suv that has all the day time comfort my family would need
First. That boost is addictive. Own my first boosted car right now as well. And 6 speed is so good! Bring it into Matt sorian and bring a 2.35 pulley. You’ll get an easy 60-70hp gain. My ZR1 is at 11 months. Guess you bought the Zl1 right before me.
I was daydreaming about a Yenko 1100 HP ZL1 but my 455HP LT1 has more power than I will ever need. I really haven't much use for 5th and 6th gear. It does get super mileage if you can keep your foot out of it.
Challenger definitely more comfortable because the cockpit has a good amount more room. Shelby and tbe ZL1 both are a little tight and both have blind spot issues so very very similar cars. I would say the GT500 is more comfortable of a ride if you put her in normal or sport modes where the Camaro kinda has a rough ride even when you aren’t in Track mode and the Shelby is a bit faster but not much and I would say they are a tie when it comes to handles. Camaro better fuel efficiency and cheaper maintenance with a much cheaper oil change with similar tire wear. Predator motor needs an oil change every 5k and takes 12 quarts or 5W50 synthetic which is pricey costing $200 give or take just for the oil and filter compared to tbe HC costing under $100 at tbe dealer and under $50 if you change your own oil Tbe Camaro pushrod 6.2L supercharged v8 is about the same type of oil change as the HC’s pushrod 6.2L supercharged v8 so both much less than the Shelby. All around the ZL1 seems to be the best bang for the buck especially the base versions but I would prefer the 1LE with the wider tires, big spoiler and better suspension.
agreed on the leather seating! i have a 2023 sharkskin metallic ZL1 on order and that is the only thing i wished could’ve been available with both options.
You can get a cheap steering wheel cover on EBay that works great on the alcantera? Steering wheel. It grips on the rough material on the wheel. My first 2015 ZL1 had it and the cover saves having to clean it so often. My second 2015 ZL1 thankfully has the smooth leather, I put it on just because I had it but it does not work on the smooth surface because it moves around too much.
I'll never understand why you want to sell a car you love this much. When you sold the blue SS and bought a 5.0, you sold the 5.0 for a Camaro with in like a few months. Felt like you couldn't wait to get back in a Camaro. Keep it if you love it! I've also sold card and wished I hadn't.
Same thing happened to me when I replaced my 5th gen Camaro ZL1 for a Corvette Stingray C7 Z51. I later felt that I made a huge mistake, I went back to a Camaro but now a 6th.gen SS
Love mine got it used as gm wont pick up my order for a 1le so i bought a 2021 zl1 used and i dont think i will go with the 1le anymore. This car is more than i expected and such a dream to drive. Where i live you dont see any zl1 camaros. Typically we see lots of puddy cats and corvets. Everyone asks about my car lol
I own a 2020 ZL1 I could not agree with you more.Mine does not have the squeaky brakes and also came equipped with the rear video cam. The cam works awesome no more blind spots . The one thing I don’t like is the brake dust on the wheels. I did the ceramic coating from Adams however it’s still annoying.
I own a 2016 C7 Z07 Corvette and am in love so I wonder what it would be like driving a camaro… my buddy is getting a 2022 SS in two weeks so I’ll have to see how it differs in person!
Have had my Hellcat Redeye for almost as long as Riley had the ZL1. Really dig the look of his ZL1, it’s a great car, although I remember him saying one time he needed a responsible family car. Glad he didn’t take his own advice lol.
So which car have you enjoyed the most -- the Mustang, Camaro SS 1LE, Challenger Hellcat or the Camaro ZL1? Or, asked another way, if you could only have one as your sports car for the next five years, which one? Good video by the way.
I need to paint mine red, I wanted it red with red seats and seatbelts and the brembo upgrade from the factory, that being said those were the only things my 2023 RS didn’t have so i made the decision to get this grey one because I can do those other things myself now
Just got my zL1 out of the shop. Have had the car for three years now. A lifter started tapping. Took the dealer 6 weeks to install a new cam and lifters. Not sure what caused the problem. The engine only has 24,000 miles. Not going to extend my warranty which is up in two weeks. If it happens again, racing cam😈
i have the manual RS package one of the funnest cars ive ever driven, let alone beat v8s in. im going to get the SS 1LE or the ZL1 with the updated back end
My 18 Charger Daytona 392 had awful brake squealing. I just put Powerstop Carbon ceramic pads on stock rotors and i have 0 squeal now. Look into whatever carbon ceramic pads would work for the camaro and try that.
Ya the C8 Vette is a beast and off the line it has a brutal launch similar to a Porsche Turbo but that’s about it. They bog out at high speeds however that’s where the new C8 Z06 is going to outshine them all even hybrid electric car’s like the Acura NSX and Ferrari SF90 Stradale.
I agree with your assessment although your Mustang is not a fair comparison to the 1LE and ZL1 you’ve had. You had the base suspension on your Mustang. A C8 will beat the ZL1 from a dig but not from a roll as you displayed.
Good old American muscle. You can't go wrong in the Camaro. Between that and the Mustang, you're guaranteed to get the girl every time. I drive a German sport car but I'll tip my hat to the Camaro and Mustang gents when I see them on the road.
I feel like the Camaro ZL1 would kind of "ruin" a c8 Corvette. We own a ZL1 and my buddy bought a C8 and they hardly compare in my opinion. The ZL1 is just better
When RP keeps a car this long, you know it’s a solid choice.
Damn you beat me to it 😂
Calvin Darius me too lol
I think he just ran out of interest in playing musical cars, much as he lost interest in his TH-cam channel.
facts!!!! He’s a 3-6 month man! I know this car has to be the best of the best lol.
DESPUÉS
Honestly this is my dream car🥺
Be prepared to get destroyed by every hellcat you see
Tha_ville it’s okay dude don’t see many of those here in Iowa anyways 😂
Tha_ville not at a stop light
Dream bigger
Tha_ville lol a stock hellcat is like .1-.3 seconds faster than a stock zl1. That fat turd can’t even grip without drag radials. So realistically stoplight to stoplight it’s gonna get smoked every time. And let’s not even talk how each performs on the back roads cuz that is just pure embarrassment for the dodge. Leave it to dodge to create the “highest hp” cars and barely take out cars with less power than it.
Enjoyed your video! As a person who is old enough to have owned used Camaro 1969 Z-28 302, 6 Pack & 440 4 Bbl 1970 Challengers and a couple of SD-455 Trans Am’s, I’m one of those people in my 60s now, who saw “the end of the muscle car” when high compression engines left and unleaded fuel became the rule.
What’s happened in engineering with today’s modern muscle cars is 17:22 nothing short of astounding.
They’re making more power and torque with less cubic inches and providing twice the MPG, those old cars did, under much stricter emissions standards.
We all owe a debt of gratitude to the Ford Motor Company.
They began the Pony Car segment in 1964, then re-created it again in 2005 with a retro Mustang design that was true to the original.
Because of that 2005 Mustang, Dodge came out with the 2008 Challenger, that re-created its original look back in 1970 and then 1971… Then, Dodge found a way to keep getting more and more hp out of them.
The Chevrolet Camaro came back in 2010, that morphed the look of the 1969 model, with modern aerodynamics in their 5th generation Camaro. Chevy then re-engineered the Camaro in the sixth generation into being a powerful sports coupe/convertible, that could handle corners and be a more refined driver than any Camaro prior.
It was only Dodge that didn’t produce a convertible model Challenger. I think that’s the one big mess they made. But they got so much right in the restyling of the 2015 model, that it didn’t matter that much.
As far as a muscle car that stayed true to its roots, the Challenger is hands-down, the winner. Incredible straight line speed with not great cornering.
That was what the old musclecar genre was about.
Ford and Chevrolet went the route of fast sport coupes. GT cars that could go fast and handle the twisties like they were on rails.
I feel very blessed to have seen the rebirth of the Combustion engined Pony Car segment. Most of us had given up on ever seeing them again.
Get yours before it’s too late. Because of green energy, we aren’t likely to see them come back a third time.
Great video!
I appreciate that you show a clip of everything you talk about. Lots of extra work but much appreciated as a viewer.
12,000 miles in one year… I already put just over 10,000 miles in three month’s 😁 I love the ZL1 💯
I'm 25k miles per year
U goin crazy
I currently own a 2022 ZL1/1LE! I can honestly say, there is no bad. At least not in my case!
Great review RP. Your channel is the reason I bought a very lightly used '18 2SS 1LE last Sept. Amazing car for the money and enough power for me... for now.
I like the wild cherry tintcoat available for this year. Just ordered a zl1 in that color. The dealer said " be prepared to wait. "
My wife has a new LT1 and we absolutely love it. I recently traded my 17 Mustang GT premium in for a new C7 and she traded her Challenger (sxt plus) and I will say the Camaro is pretty much my favorite to drive. There is even a small part of me that kind of likes driving her Camaro a little better than my C7, I think the 10sp vs the 8sp makes the difference. Her Camaro feels so fast and I could only imagine driving a ZL1. They really are a great car and by you having your's for so long is a testament to that.
Totally agree with you and my 2 main complaints would be the trunk opening and getting in and out in tight spaces. Visibility isn't really that bad especially compared to her Challenger which was about the same.
I replaced my Corvette Stingray C7 Z51 AT for a 6th.gen Camaro SS in MT. I enjoy the hell of driving my MT Camaro, much better than my automatic transmission Stingray.
My Camaro has been more dependable, I got rid of my C7 because of reliability issues, most of the time the Corvette was in the shop, I got tired of it.
Year later for me and this car still puts a huge smile on my face when I get on it. I love everything about it BUT ONE THING. Cant fit my golf clubs in the trunk. Other than that I'm not getting rid of her. anytime soon. I love this car . if your eyeing it make it happen you only live once!
I really want one, just saving for a bigger down payment!!
just read this motivation now i’m getting mine tmw
@Frost love it man. You won't regret it . Car is amazing. Be patient though I waited and shopped for the right one at the right price for almost 2 years and mine popped up with 4500 miles at 52k . I stole it. That was 3 years ago though haha
Replace golf clubs with shot guns my friend. Sporting clays are golf with shotguns, and it's a lot cooler.
I've never seen someone trade out of regular cars so often. RP spends enough in dealer fees, taxes, and titling over the course of a few years that if he just stayed in one car and saved the money have a super car!
People flip all these cars like this; that’s part of why dealer mark ups are so ridiculous
Camaro is dream come true for me, can't wait for special order to come ,waiting for amazing Victor racing wing.
“The backseat does hold humans”💀
I just picked up an LT1 Camaro and love it! It's been a dream for me to get a newer Camaro with the 6.2 liter V8.
I know what you mean about the power being overkill, I wanted a ZL 1, but after driving the SS 1LE I decided to skip the super charged version. I'm able to actually thrash my car harder than I would be able to do to the ZL 1. Great video
Damn I forgot RP even had a TH-cam channel lol
Because the man doesn’t fucking upload
This just popped up for me too. Haven't seen one of his videos since he got this car.
Same here!
No cap 🧢 😂😂😂
I’ve had a ‘21 2SS 1LE A10 for a bit over a year now and by far it’s the best bang for the buck amazing car.
My breaks squeal too.. finally good to see another squealer lol. But i love my ZL1 other than that. No issues also in 3.5 years
Bc they’re big ass brakes. You should hear the Vulcans once their warm
Seriously, why all the youtubers had to get a C8, just wonder. I think you should just keep the ZL1, plus if some reason ya have kids, ZL1 still got space for it.
It’s mid engine and it looks like a supercar. But personally think the Camaro is cooler.
like sitting in a pit with non stop blind spots
Riley, you can program the seat to slide back automatically at engine shut off, so you can get in and out easily. Also, the Wildhammer steering wheel in leather is great.
Just subscribed. Your expression while driving is just like me. My ZL1 1LE makes me smile and/or laugh every time I drive it. I agree it doesn’t need anything, but I was just looking at some minor upgrades (cai, pulley, tune for 91 (AZ)) when I stumbled on your videos. I love this car! My brakes squeal too. I got it used. I’ve heard they need to be bedded in properly. I’m hoping once I do that, it will take care of the noise. Nice video!
4:26 Try using a steering wheel cover!! 6:13 I know what you mean!! I had 3 other cars (very limited budget) but my Camaro just seems like It's in a class higher than the rest, even after costing about the same!!! I drive mine with the Traction Control AND the Stability Control OFF, (hold down the traction control button for 5 sec) and I can drift and grip corners with confidence!!! 9:57 It's like driving a cave at first, but you get used to it!!
Nice video. You are the first person that has NOT complained about the stiff ride. I got a 2022 ZL1 1LE in May 2022. You are correct about the car being too much for the street. I will track mine so its ok. Most of the mods you talked about and your CAI are illegal in CA. I used to get excited about these mods but gave up since I am in CA!
I follow all the car laws too 👌🫨
Intakes are illegal in Cali? Wow, f* that cesspool.
@@z-ra In a few years, buying new ICE car will be banned in that state as well. GM won't be selling them either after 2035.
I’ve had mine 2 years now and I’m still completely happy. It’s a fun car that still feels fast ass shit. Great bang for buck.
Excellent audio quality in this video. I know thats not what people watch these types of videos for. But compared to the average audio quality I hear in these videos, yours is well above. Good work.
The plum crazy scat pack is still my favorite.
Or the hellcat
Yeesssss sir!!
Yep, I have one with some OEM SRT items. It's been the best car!
I have a scat pack but man I’m deciding out of this zl1 and a z06
of all the different people doing reviews, I like how you do it the best so far. much more in-depth 1st person prospective
in 12 years from know i'll be 24. I'll be looking to buy one my self. Even though i'm only 12 and don't have a driver's licence, my dad gave me a 1994 V6 Camaro coupe. I'm looking to ls swap it and add lots of modifications (for looks and performance).
By then, these camaros will be rare and go for a lot. After 2023, they'll discontinue the camaro.. Sadly!
Im graduating in 2022 and i would love to say that i might be lucky if i get one of those cars been in love with camaros since i was littel
Phenomenal seriously ?
Glad to see you still doing video been subscribe to your page since your first charger idk TH-cam stop showing me your uploads until this
Dream car for sure hopefully one day will be able to own one!
The "bad" things are just something to keep in mind with customizing.
Omfg that exhaust sounded amazing 🔥🔥
Hey Riley have been following you for a few years now and like your videos. I currently own a 2017 ZL1 and still to this day LOVE IT and brings a smile to my face every time. You may want to hold on to her until the Z06 new C8 comes out? Continue to have fun in for ZL1 while you wait. That’s what I plan on doing. Btw I agree with almost everything you said about the good and bad about the car. You nailed it!!!!
Any problems on the car brother ?
@@josepineda9740 none whatsoever…and have been to the track 4 times. 👍
@@shatz72 I’m currently looking at a 17 zl1 5k miles , 10 speed , I saw forums and TH-cam comments about how the 2017 come with some issues the kit or the fuel pump so just wondering because ima trade my ss for this bad boy!!
@@josepineda9740 yes you are correct the oil pump has been an issue for some owners, 2017 and 2018. I have been fortunate and also had the warranty on my side still if it were to fail. Good luck
I would love to add this car to my stable of muscle cars. I for tbe first ti e own a Mustang and it’s the 21 Shelby GT 500 and I’m blown away by how awesome it handles and how fast it is stock aside from a k & n intake and res delete which added maybe 30 hp which is a lot to get from just those two minor upgrades. Another thing that I am impressed with is the duel clutch transmission which is on par with the Porsche PDK 7 speed. We also have two modified Hellcats both with Magnuson 2650 superchargers and one with a Hellcat 426 stroker motor and E85 triple pump fuel system with a Cam, long tubes and all tbe other mods needed to make over 1000whp safely and the other is just a stock Hellcat 10% lower pulley on pump 93 with just a fuel system upgrade and leg maker to go with the Magnuson in the out of the box stock setup and makes almost 800 whp so probably can call her 900 hp to tbe crank. The 426 is just ridiculously fast but when driven normally you wouldn’t know you have 1200ish motor hp. The Shelby is engineered so perfectly we will not modify the engine at sll because I feel it will hurt the performance on the track because power you can’t control is useless and this car is damn near perfect as is. Tge Camaro ZL1 from wgst hear and from tbe numbers on tbe track is to me like the Shelby and unless you intend on just drag racing shoujd of not be messed with too much. Hellcats don’t handle well in stock form and most people don’t even try to road race them so they are more inclined to add as much power as they can and still hook up to get there 1/4 mile times as low as they can. Hellcats are straight line muscle cars period!! The GT500 and tbe ZL1 are called muscle cars but they are also sports cars tgst now home there own against supercars which is an incredible engineering accomplishments
The 426 stroker I’ll never sell but the other one I would like to sell and out the money towards a ZL1 or ZL1 1KE if I can find one and I would want a six speed man for sure. We converted the 436 from a manual to an HP90 because of the massive power and tbe Shelby only available with the 7 speed duel clutch auto so I need a manual
I can't stop looking at this ZL1, beautiful car! I know you'll miss it!
The ZL1 is a beautiful car. The sound of the Chevrolet V8 engine is amazing. Great video!💪🏽
I bought my 2017 2SS Fifty because of your 1LE videos. Keep up the great work!
I think after my hellcat one of these will be in my garage. A lot of car for the money and don't see near as much as a Hellcat
@Daver G Camaro is also more reliable.The camaro computer are also better overall--especially the 2020s-I think the 2019 and 20s are now faster then the hellcat--the computer can really get the car up to speed without wheelspin.I set a budget of 50k--so this was above what I wanted to spend.I got an AWD Stinger instead.Its as fast as I need something to be anyway.
@Daver G I plan on keeping my stinger many years.I wanted AWD because even though I live in GA--the weather fluctuates.Yeah--Sticks r fun--but they are outdated with how quick new autos can shift.Maybe in 5 or so years they put AWD on these American V8s,With 600 plus hp and a good AWD system the car would hit mid 3 all day long--and would be able to do it in many conditions.
@Daver G The stinger is what the SS should have been.When you are at 50k plus and have any car that can hit 155 plus--AWD should at least be an option.I like the stinger because it drives like a V8--it has a lot of torque down low--so its low to midrange punch is great--and you do not have to floor it like a 4 cylinder to get it to go quick.Stinger was not on my radar until I had to unload 2 vehicles to 1 in a short time. It came out on top in many aspects.I look at everything--and I enjoy big fast heavy stable cars.The stinger actually doe not feel heavy--but god forbid a wreck occurs--it is nice to know I have 4k lbs of steel around me and the insurance was very cheap for the Stinger--not many are wrecked or stolen and insurance rates them at the highest safety level with AWD.Plus I own it and have 30k left in the bank.I have had no problems nd noone on the stinger forum has had a major repair like a blown engine or turbo go out.
@Daver G I had an olds aurora over a decade ago that I had setup to do the silver state classic.Amazingly it never wound up in the shop.I also take care of my cars at the dealer and german delaerships always find 500 to 1k in things to repair when you take them in for their 300 dollar oil change.They gave me some discounted 6 year maintenece plan on my KIA--synthetic oil--and the car takes between 6 to 8 quarts is only 50 bucks to have it changed recently--62 total with tax and disposal--so I am pleased with KIAs warranty and maintenence planThe ATS+V did not make my list cause of lack of AWD.Cadilliac should make an AWD and lay off the 20k in electronics--exotic leather and the stuff many folks do not want that can break.German cars same thing--car is a 50k car with 20k in luxuries that I have no interest in.Plus KIA's fit and finish and quality of the materials is on PAR with a Honda Acoord--might not say much but my crosstour I had for 10 years--every button--every part on the car was as tight and new as the day I bought it, this after 10 years of use.
I test drove one and sadly a mopar car meet when near that day and boi did I get destroyed
I prefer hellcats (Mopar or no car😏) but after watching this video I have a lot more respect towards ZL1’s 💯
You mean fiat or no car right?
@@tattooed1979 No. I don’t care that Fiat bought Dodge. Dodge still makes incredible cars in my opinion. If anything, Fiat buying Dodge has helped Dodge vehicles, at least the interiors.
@@Matt-sf4hi fiat has Ferrari money,so they don't give a shit about updating an out of date chassis thats why dodge sucks. Look at the Camaro it sucked for so many years until gm came out with the alpha platform. Yay! the challenger can go fast in a straight line. The Camaro is still the better car.
I am a Mustang driver, but I respect what Dodge have done with their Challenger/Charger. We will sure miss these cars a few years from now
@@nsbioy very true, enjoy them while you can because these overreach corrupt politicians are ruining the automobile. They think we are destroying the planet but don’t have sense enough to read the Bible and understand that God made the earth to last until Jesus returns.
love my 2019 zli, no issues 4200 miles now after 1 year ;)
I'm not sure why there's complaints over entry and exit of a sports car. Same for visibility. It's the nature of the beast. In Texas cooled seats are appreciated. In fact, I wish there was a cooled steering wheel.
Just bought a 2017 with 7000 miles. Love it!!
I own a 2020 ss2 convertible… I love it more than my 2021 Supra … prob gonna trade both in and get the 2023 zl1 or a new C8 dunno yet
putting the shift skip bypass mod on it is a MUST, i put mine on right away
Holy shit the exhaust is mean!!
was it factory
@@doggymangot5221 no, it's a corsa xtreme+ exhaust
@@CR1T1K oh damn thx
Good review as always. Just got a 2020 2SS 1LE July 11. Ordered it in December, long wait.
Your reviews helped me make the decision to make the order.
Enjoy!
I’m 15 and I’m a Chevy guy and love camaros, I always thought I’d be in debt if I ever wanted one but this video gave me hope, thank you👍
Anthony’s Automotive I was in the same situation as you when I was younger, I always looked at camaros and dreamed about having one. After lots of hard work I already have one and I’m only 22 without anyone’s help. It’s definitely possible to have one you just gotta stay in a straight path and work hard af but in the end is really worth it.
good lad..camaro's are better than mustang crap. work hard. save hard and before you know it you'll own one. i love my 2012 2ss
You are 17 now ? Are you able to get into a Camaro yet ?
The whine is sweeter than the exhaust for me , great in depth video , nice to see.. enjoyed your videos I worked for Gotham dream carbs,and the Ferrari, and Lamborghini, Aston and Porsche , all had squeaky brakes and the average client would squall at that all day .... not understanding the brakes abilities under stress ... it is annoying on a 10,000$ car and 400,000$ dollar car ... if your performance minded it’s livable .. if your a red carpet type it will blow
First time seeing your video, awesome presentation and content man!
Nooooooo don’t sell the Zl1. Thing looks absolutely amazing.
I think the last video I watched was when you got this. For some reason your videos don't get in my algorithm anymore.
For the driving side gettin in and out use your memory seat buttons. Use the one for exiting/entering to easily get in and out of. I complain sometimes but I love my ZL1
I actually just bought one and I'm so glad I did its amazing no regrets:)
I remember when i had my SS 2016. I was plenty satisfied with the power. I never even used 100% of its power on the road.
That's right, same here on my '16 Camaro SS MT
chevy orange 2ss convertible 10 speed 2020 bought it brand new.. happiest man on the planet.. have pulled more ass in this car during covid than my father his father and his father combined. i promise you
I remember I met you in Pontiac for the Dodge Road Kill days and I told you about my slow ass impala lol. It cool to see how far you channel has come since then! I finally got my charger so we can race 😂
One foolproof fix for trouble settling in your seat.
Youth.
I turned in my 17 Hellcat lease and bought a slightly used 19’ ZL1 A10
and have been loving it.
I rented a 16 SS and disagree that it’s as fun on the back roads as the ZL1, as I found it was quick but still needed more power to be satisfying imo. The zl1 is just right out of the box in that regard. All subjective of course.
I hate how the camaro seats don’t properly recline without being modified.
Alcantara looks and feels great but horrible on a high touch point like a steering wheel. The sweat, oil and friction from the hands will degrade it quickly.
I bought some driving gloves for mine
@@samcase7045 a cheap EBay steering wheel cover works great on the alcantara.
I have an ‘18 same color and it’s worth every dollar. That brake dust is about the only thing I could do without.
I like the bright silver, deep ruby smoke red,deep blue, it's almost like I see more gray cars than anything out there,
Definitely my favorite model of Camaro
Our king is back
Really? Smh
RP Productions Great Video I'm glad you've had a Great year with your 2017 Camaro ZL1 and I can't wait to see a C8 Z51 Stingray on the Channel
I’m following your footsteps slightly. Sold my cammed 2012 GrandSport in January. Just got an opportunity to pick up a mint Blue 2018 Zl1. Backseat much needed with my sons. Great vid and congrats on the C8 👍🏻🏁
wow this dude is an expert at burning money!
I like the sound of the SC after the aftermarket intake. The only drawback is the pillbox outward view but this design is nice.
I don’t have a problem with visibility, the key is to adjust the outside mirrors correctly. Most people turn the mirrors in too far, which is incorrect.
It's got a simple and nice exhaust on it ...
*F for my headphones a sec later* 🤣
You answered many of the questions that were on my mind. I presently have '19 Mustang 5.0 but I dont like the lack of low rpm power. Also my Stang is base so I really want some options like active exhaust, bigger info screen (4" now). I work all the time so I prefer to buy a car which already has all that done. This model of Camaro (if I can find a used one) sounds like the answer. Also you mentioned that the lower level SS might be all that I need. But I do like the idea of a rough and tuff factory race car like the ZL1 1LE. I have a daily suv that has all the day time comfort my family would need
First. That boost is addictive. Own my first boosted car right now as well. And 6 speed is so good! Bring it into Matt sorian and bring a 2.35 pulley. You’ll get an easy 60-70hp gain. My ZR1 is at 11 months. Guess you bought the Zl1 right before me.
I was daydreaming about a Yenko 1100 HP ZL1 but my 455HP LT1 has more power than I will ever need. I really haven't much use for 5th and 6th gear. It does get super mileage if you can keep your foot out of it.
Challenger definitely more comfortable because the cockpit has a good amount more room. Shelby and tbe ZL1 both are a little tight and both have blind spot issues so very very similar cars. I would say the GT500 is more comfortable of a ride if you put her in normal or sport modes where the Camaro kinda has a rough ride even when you aren’t in Track mode and the Shelby is a bit faster but not much and I would say they are a tie when it comes to handles. Camaro better fuel efficiency and cheaper maintenance with a much cheaper oil change with similar tire wear. Predator motor needs an oil change every 5k and takes 12 quarts or 5W50 synthetic which is pricey costing $200 give or take just for the oil and filter compared to tbe HC costing under $100 at tbe dealer and under $50 if you change your own oil Tbe Camaro pushrod 6.2L supercharged v8 is about the same type of oil change as the HC’s pushrod 6.2L supercharged v8 so both much less than the Shelby. All around the ZL1 seems to be the best bang for the buck especially the base versions but I would prefer the 1LE with the wider tires, big spoiler and better suspension.
Had 2017 Chevy Malibu 1.5 it had 57,675 miles when I trade it in had no problems with engine or transmission and I took it to lots of places
Supercharger wine!! Sounds tasty.
agreed on the leather seating! i have a 2023 sharkskin metallic ZL1 on order and that is the only thing i wished could’ve been available with both options.
You can get a cheap steering wheel cover on EBay that works great on the alcantera? Steering wheel. It grips on the rough material on the wheel. My first 2015 ZL1 had it and the cover saves having to clean it so often. My second 2015 ZL1 thankfully has the smooth leather, I put it on just because I had it but it does not work on the smooth surface because it moves around too much.
I wish more people realized how much car the 6th gen Camaro's are for the money
I'll never understand why you want to sell a car you love this much. When you sold the blue SS and bought a 5.0, you sold the 5.0 for a Camaro with in like a few months. Felt like you couldn't wait to get back in a Camaro. Keep it if you love it! I've also sold card and wished I hadn't.
Same thing happened to me when I replaced my 5th gen Camaro ZL1 for a Corvette Stingray C7 Z51. I later felt that I made a huge mistake, I went back to a Camaro but now a 6th.gen SS
JM M Why did u go to the SS and not back to the zl1? In still trying to decide between the two
Wonderful Bose system.....that made me laugh. Good vid buddy
The oil pump failure is around 1,300-1,800 to fix. 😟. Buy from a Chevy dealer or already fixed.
how in tarnation can you find one of these for low 40k range. Try low to high 60k range
These cars are plain awsome
Love mine got it used as gm wont pick up my order for a 1le so i bought a 2021 zl1 used and i dont think i will go with the 1le anymore. This car is more than i expected and such a dream to drive. Where i live you dont see any zl1 camaros. Typically we see lots of puddy cats and corvets. Everyone asks about my car lol
I own a 2020 ZL1 I could not agree with you more.Mine does not have the squeaky brakes and also came equipped with the rear video cam. The cam works awesome no more blind spots . The one thing I don’t like is the brake dust on the wheels. I did the ceramic coating from Adams
however it’s still annoying.
I own a 2016 C7 Z07 Corvette and am in love so I wonder what it would be like driving a camaro… my buddy is getting a 2022 SS in two weeks so I’ll have to see how it differs in person!
That race against the c8 was lit..had to rewind a few times. Camaro going crazy
Have had my Hellcat Redeye for almost as long as Riley had the ZL1. Really dig the look of his ZL1, it’s a great car, although I remember him saying one time he needed a responsible family car. Glad he didn’t take his own advice lol.
If I own a beautiful ZL1 like yours and I had the choice between the C8 or the ZL1 I'm choosing the ZL1.
Great choice👍
I got to build a zl1 2013. 30k 9.99 on the tuning track. I took the brembos out and installed a willwood big brake kit. Shaved the LCA.
Daily drive, where tf this dude drive to the store once every week ? Tf
I'm saying 😂😂😂
I daily my zl1 1le cause it’s that fun
I know right? When I drive my camaro to work I put in at least 100 miles a day because of the far distance of my job
Alonso Arellano Fr!! I drove my ss to school for 3 years and put hella miles on it, really been wanting a new Camaro but idk wanna change it up
womensrightslol you don’t have one
So which car have you enjoyed the most -- the Mustang, Camaro SS 1LE, Challenger Hellcat or the Camaro ZL1? Or, asked another way, if you could only have one as your sports car for the next five years, which one?
Good video by the way.
Such a beautiful car
I need to paint mine red,
I wanted it red with red seats and seatbelts and the brembo upgrade from the factory, that being said those were the only things my 2023 RS didn’t have so i made the decision to get this grey one because I can do those other things myself now
Welcome back Riley
Just got my zL1 out of the shop. Have had the car for three years now. A lifter started tapping. Took the dealer 6 weeks to install a new cam and lifters. Not sure what caused the problem. The engine only has 24,000 miles. Not going to extend my warranty which is up in two weeks. If it happens again, racing cam😈
i have the manual RS package one of the funnest cars ive ever driven, let alone beat v8s in. im going to get the SS 1LE or the ZL1 with the updated back end
My 18 Charger Daytona 392 had awful brake squealing. I just put Powerstop Carbon ceramic pads on stock rotors and i have 0 squeal now. Look into whatever carbon ceramic pads would work for the camaro and try that.
I really wanted a review on this type of car because a camaro is my dream car so yeah
Ya the C8 Vette is a beast and off the line it has a brutal launch similar to a Porsche Turbo but that’s about it. They bog out at high speeds however that’s where the new C8 Z06 is going to outshine them all even hybrid electric car’s like the Acura NSX and Ferrari SF90 Stradale.
I agree with your assessment although your Mustang is not a fair comparison to the 1LE and ZL1 you’ve had.
You had the base suspension on your Mustang.
A C8 will beat the ZL1 from a dig but not from a roll as you displayed.
Good old American muscle. You can't go wrong in the Camaro. Between that and the Mustang, you're guaranteed to get the girl every time. I drive a German sport car but I'll tip my hat to the Camaro and Mustang gents when I see them on the road.
I feel like the Camaro ZL1 would kind of "ruin" a c8 Corvette. We own a ZL1 and my buddy bought a C8 and they hardly compare in my opinion. The ZL1 is just better