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- Real world range test for the Lucid Air Pure All Wheel Drive (AWD). Using real world conditions, hot weather, stops, overnight stay, climate control, and Texas speeds!
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Thank you for sharing real world driving range. Definitely the 75 MPH and the overnight played a good role in reducing the range. It was hot too. Also, good start on the subscriptions. I’ve recently started a cooking channel. Thinking to add some life experiences with my current GLC since I enjoy cars and cooking. Keep up the good work. Looking forward to more reports.
Thanks for watching! Cooking with Cars!!! Sounds like you already have the perfect theme for a new channel! It has been fun doing these! Always something to learn along the way!
@@EV-365 Definitely. Always learning new things. Thank you as well.
Great videos! I have been watching many of yours as I am planning on getting a Pure dual motor
Thanks for watching!!! It really was a great car. The drive was fantastic!
EPA range is a mix of highway and city driving. No car will obtain the EPA estimate range with highway speeds.
But considering outside temperature of 100 degrees and full AC. 330 miles is incredible compared to the 410 listed, and you have to remember the 410 is rwd and this car is awd and obviously not as erficient
Its been noted by multiple owners that the car's range gets even better over time. Would love to see an update at 1000 miles and 5k
Interesting! I am at about 800. I may just have to make that video!
Hello from Dallas, TX.
Thanks for checking in!!!
I would love to point out a few things. Lucid uses the EPA 5 cycle test (as do Tesla, Audi, Polestar, and Rivian). Historically, this gives higher EPA numbers that most people won't be able to obtain. I think Lucid went with this test for marketing reasons. Tesla used it and could "advertise" their vehicles having 400 miles range. My opinion - Lucid wanted to show it was a better ranged vehicle than Tesla, so it used the same 5 cycle test so that Tesla wouldn't have an unfair advantage when it came to EPA reported range.
Anyhow, given the 5 cycle test......most would not hit the target EPA range.
Second, and as pointed out by others - speed kills efficiency. Driving at 83 mph (your reported avg speed from below) and getting 3.5 - 3.6 miles per kwh is fantastic! If you were to have slowed down to 55, your efficiency would have improved by ~30% (google search shows 55 vs 80 mph is a 28% decrease in fuel efficiency). Thus 3.6 miles/kwh would have improved to 4.7 miles/kwh which is right about where the EPA would have you.
Would you want to drive 55 mph? Highly likely not and that's TOTALLY fine. It's just managing expectations as to what the car CAN do vs what it DOES do based on driving speeds, styles, environmental conditions (wind, temperature, elevation changes, etc).
Thanks for posting up your video!
Great detailed information! Thanks for sharing!!!
Good video. I hope to see more from you.
It is important to realize that EPA range numbers are a blend of hypothetical city and highway driving (highway at 70mph). In my Air GT I have a lifetime average of 3.2 m/kWhr based on mostly Texas freeway miles at between 80-90mph. Speed really crushes range but the Lucid's aerodynamic efficiency makes that less painful than in other cars.
Lucid, at least with the big batteries, allows you to use almost all of the capacity. It is not advisable to push the limit either to the top or bottom, but at least 100% and 0% mean exactly what they say on the display. I appreciate Lucid treating us like adults and letting us make our own choices.
It would be interesting to see how quickly the Pure adds charge. I would imagine that your charging stop in (Hillsboro?) only took about 15 minutes to get what you needed to get home. Let us know.
You nailed it with everything you said! Yes, the Hillsboro charge was about 15-20 minutes and that because we spent a little more time in the Wal-mart buying some dipping dots! The charger didn't quite give us it's full charging speed, but was still more than enough! I put out a charging curve video that goes into a little more detail on the charging! Thanks for watching!
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Great testing video! Maybe Lucid Air fits the driving mode in East-Asia area like Japan, Taiwan etc. We usually not drive over 40miles expect the weekends and it might be easy to get consumption >4.0miles/kWh.
At 40 miles a day, you all will have a lot of great EV options, especially if you have home/work charging! Even our MINI would be great for that! Thanks for watching!!!
@@EV-365 Thank you for your advice and I am sorry I wrote the wrong info in last time. It should be 40miles/hr, not 40miles a day so that’s why I expect it could achieve >4.0miles/kWh in here. Any way I will keep waiting the day that A-GT comes to Taiwan😁.
Dam that was pretty dam good, to bad they’re just lowing the price i would of probably gotten it over the R1T, well to late now love my truck
Looks like we have the same tastes! I looooove the R1T. The Lucid has been great, but I'll be driving the R1T for a long time. Lucid of course is much better with efficiency, but the Rivian just checks so many other boxes that most EV's out there at the moment can't!
Hi what size wheels were you on? trying to figure out whether I can get away with a Pure or a Grand Touring!
We have the 19" Aero Wheels. Let me know if you have any other questions! Check our detailed walk around video for more info on our spec. th-cam.com/video/BSufhwewPKo/w-d-xo.htmlsi=YHixXnYZE_PgekvN
Thank you!@@EV-365
I may have the service techs check my system on my Air GT, it seems to loose about 6 miles a night even in sleep mode...Considering it has two 12v batteries, it shouldn't lose power from the drive batteries while maintaining systems.
Maybe your phone keeps triggering it if it's close to you
@@USNEMNope...my office is right next to my garage, so I turned that feature off.
The "miles" number is a calculated figure based on who-knows-what. Check to see it the charge % changes.
@@Miata822 I have already reported the issue. Since the car has two 12v batteries for everything other than the drive batteries, then the car should be pulling from those batteries instead of the drive battery. The 2012 Leaf I had was charged via solar panel on the back of the car to maintain systems completely seperate from the Drive battery. Now I can see it pulling from the drive battery "if and when it needs it", but to pull from it right after a charge makes not sense. IMO there is some odd BMS programming happening with their system.
6% seems excessive, especially with the phone wake off. 0% also surprised me on my overnight. Not sure how I got that. I would imagine somewhere in the middle is more reasonable.
Also having more people in the car drains the battery faster
Yup! That and luggage! Though we did pack light for one night. I think this was a good worst case range test with all the factors, particularly that July heat and Texas speeds!
@@EV-365 Yup that’s the bad thing about EV’s. Driving 64 mph helps with the range but it sucks if you like to speed which I do :(.
Well, the car is design to carry folks and luggage.. Not you carrying the car
But that’s a more realistic range test for road trips … then there’s the range test for local stop-and-go local commuting with only the driver … both range figures are important to know
@@Drbeto209To be fair driving slower helps with the range of any car whether it's using electric motors or a piston engine
You do not condition the battery for a drive, you condition it for a fast charge.. conditioning the battery drains a lot of range, but allows for a faster charge.
Lucid's estimated range is based on the unrealistic EPA estimate, not on your actual mileage. And yes, it's not very smart.😢
how much does the distance drop as the speed goes to 100 mph? does it drop to half total range 200 miles? thank you...
I am not sure exactly, but every 10 miles over 70, in any EV, drops that range down. I averaged about 83 mph on this drive.
@@EV-365wow - 83 is hauling on a range test with 3.6. nice job
What’s the speed of charge on a Tesla Supercharger?
Most of the Tesla units should be able to give you up to 250 kw. Was not able to take the Lucid to one, but did take the Rivian to one with a Magic Dock and it was not coming close to the 220 kw the Rivian was capable. Tesla Charging units are typically more reliable, but even they do not seem to always perform their best.
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The Pure is a 92 kWh pack.
88 kwh
100 degrees makes a huge difference. Could be ~20% loss.
100 degrees is normal that Tesla can achieve normal and losing 0% loss. Sounds like Lucid is full of "lucid air".
Not that much loss in a Lucid. Some years ago in my 2011 LEAF that was true, but not today. Arctic weather is another story.
The heat definitely makes a difference, but the bigger indirect impact of the heat is more so because the AC is cranking. Also, every little bit over 70 mph is the real drain!
problem with EV is that the range is not linear. If you drive slowly a distance of 30 miles you will be using way less battery that if you drive the same distance of 30 miles super fast
Yes, that is definitely the case. I would imagine, ICE vehicles are the same if you have a heavy foot. Perhaps not as drastic though!
average speed 83mph?
Texas, Baby. He was going slow 😉
Ha! So true. People were passing me up!
I have to wrap my head around waiting 20 to 30 minutes stopping to charge and not be in/out for gas. Could make road trips extra long
Not as much as you think. Notice he didn't need to stop on the way to Dallas. The Lucid's 900V battery charges very quickly on a CCS charger. When I drive from Dallas to Little Rock regularly I stop to charge in Hope Arkansas. Not because I need the charge, but for a restroom break and maybe to grab lunch. 15 minutes every 2-3 hours is not an issue.
Maybe with less gas fumes you could.
It is definitely a different way to think about fueling your car. The key thing here, is it will only be on longer road trips. You save so much time day to day by being able to charge from home and never having to go to a gas station for daily purposes. That more than makes up for the occasional road trip time loss. Even on road trips, it kind of is nice to stop, take a break, meet some people, and get back on the road refreshed (the girls got dipping dots on this stop). From Austin, I can get to San Antonio (round trip), Houston, and Dallas all on single charge. If I were not filming the video, I would have charged at the place I stayed because they have charging, or went to a fast charger in the morning while the fam was getting ready, and would not have to have made that stop. It really is not bad!
@@EV-365 You can tell the naysayers that have never driven an EV.
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“Y’all” that was enough to only stop this video at 5 seconds. Have a great day
EV’a are cool but gas is better. These things are hard to charge, you can find a gas station everywhere you can’t find a charging station. How long does a charge take?
It depends on what you do and your situation. I would never have considered an EV even 3 years ago, but I moved to CA for my job. There are charging stations everywhere, and free charging at my apartment complex. Work round trip is about 30 miles, so I can just charge at the end of the day. Now if you are in say, Arkansas (my last job site) and travel a lot, then yes, an EV would suck. In a nutshell I'd say if you live in a place you don't need to drive a lot and has EV charging, an EV is awesome, saves money and is insanely quick. If you drive a lot and do long distances, then yes stay gas, we aren't there yet. As for charging, the free apt charger gives about 7-8%/hour to my Tesla Model 3 Performance. That sounds crappy but remember, 2-3 hours charges my days travels, and I'm in my apt playing computer games or watching movies or cooking, stuff I'd do anyway. A Tesla Superchager will take me from 20-80 in about 30 minutes.
It’s extremely easy to charge and charging stations are everywhere. You never notice it until you have an ev. This is coming from someone with two Teslas. Charging at home will get me a full charge overnight and if I do go to a supercharge station from let’s say 10% to 80% will take roughly 20 min. Enough time to use the bathroom, get something to drink, bite to eat, or just watch an episode of something in the car.
I guess if you like slow cars and don't mind going to gas stations, well, good for you.
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It is definitely a different way to think about fueling your car. The key thing here, is it will only be on longer road trips. You save so much time day to day by being able to charge from home and never having to go to a gas station for daily purposes. That more than makes up for the occasional road trip time loss. Even on road trips, it kind of is nice to stop, take a break, meet some people, and get back on the road refreshed (the girls got dipping dots on this stop). From Austin, I can get to San Antonio (round trip), Houston, and Dallas all on single charge. If I were not filming the video, I would have charged at the place I stayed because they have charging, or went to a fast charger in the morning while the fam was getting ready, and would not have to have made that stop. It really is not bad!
If u drive like a normal human then your range will suck. On top of that if you ask the car to do car stuff like run ac it will suck
nice,, ya no car meets the range they post on paper,,, its all just bs to sell cars lol
The primary factors that affected your range is the AC running full blast and avg speed if 75+, those 2 factors alone negatively affected u
100%!!! Especially those Texas speeds!
Thats normal driving
With this silly range.. They are asking for Exorbitant price.. ($80k).. If am not for this pure, the RWD
I agree LUCID is overpriced but to most people the range doesn't matter. All I do is go to work and back or maybe to the next town over for a restaurant we don't have here. If you are a long commuter then yes, all EVs suck but to a normal person who doesn't road trip all the time 200 miles of range is more than enough. I do like 50 miles a day max, that's work and back and driving into a town and back for my lunch break. Then I can charge when I get home.
@@user-number-the-one Tesla S can do 400 miles and go over 100 miles/hour
I've seen a Model S Plaid range test that only did 300 miles & that's a much more expensive car. So it's still pretty alright value
100%. 200-250 miles of range is the sweet spot and hopefully people will understand that will meet almost all of their use cases other than the occasional long road trip. And if you have home charging, it is such a time, money, and hassle saver. Also at that range, less batteries are being used up, the weight of the vehicle is less, efficiency goes up, price goes down.
Would you also say paying $80k, for a Ford F-150 Limited is exorbitant? How about $80K for a Mercedes Benz? BMW? Jaguar? Porsche?
Lucid is marketing themselves as a Luxury Car....a competitor to Mercedes Benz. The reality is that they have to compete with the elephant in the room (Tesla) too.
So what can they offer better than a Tesla Model S (the obvious comparison car). Both Tesla (model S long range) and Lucid (air) offer a vehicle with 400 miles range, at similar costs. Tesla offers a supercharger network. Lucid offers a more high scale interior (design and materials) and much better fit/finish (Tesla is notoriously horrible for this). So, you have to choose between the supercharger network (best for road trips and inability to charge at home) vs a much nicer cabin to live in while driving.
As far as Mercedes, they are offering similar luxury interiors, but improved range and a lower cost.