Had a chance to drive a Lucid recently too and thought the same. It is a little noisier than I expected and there is a noise from the front motor that seems to be very noticeable. Loved it, but am concerned if they will be around long.
@@bjornnyland Given how buggy the software seems to be and considering that the car did not charge at all on Kempower charger, it would not surprise me if the car violated some standards related to communication with the charger. In such case, the charger might detect it as a malfunction in the car and refuse to give it full power.
An outstanding result. The Lucid battery has a little more than three times the net capacity of my 40kWh Leaf and can drive three times further. Excellent result. 👍
According to the EPA website, the Lucid Air GT uses 26kWh/100 miles as opposed to 30 for the Leaf. So despite being a bigger car, it uses less energy per mile. But what's perhaps more important is long trips, where the Leaf has 99 MPGe vs 132 for the Lucid. So it's a third more range for the same amount of power. To put it another way, a 9 minute charge on a Lucid adds as much range as going from 0 to a full charge on a Leaf. So if you want to go the same distance and don't need a full charge, a 22 minute road stop adds as much range as charging a Leaf to full, running it to empty, charging back to full and using up the whole pack again.
@@bW9taeH4 Greetings from Germany. My average consumption in summer is less than 13kWh/100km. In winter it goes up to about 16. I have watched most of Bjorn Nyland's 1000km challenges. I can't remember seeing any of the EVs tested that had better consumption than my Leaf. A bigger battery is heavier. A heavier vehicle requires more energy to get it moving. The tires have to work harder to brake the vehicle. Tire wear is a lot higher. For the 'EVs will save the planet' crap to actually come to fruition, we need lots of smaller vehicles with a small battery.
I honestly think that Lucid reinvented the sedan design, there's something very aesthetically pleasing about the way it looks. Perhaps it's the length/width ratio😍
@@JM-wd3dk It's smaller on the outside, but bigger on the inside. In other words, the interior has the space of a Mercedes S class but the exterior size is about the same as a Mercedes E class. It has a bit under twice the trunk space of the Mercedes S, but if you add the frunk, it's about 2 2/3 the cargo space. So it's a big car inside a midsize car. It's not quite straight out of Dr Who but it's impressive. It's not the roomiest I've ever owned (literally), but it's more than enough for practical purposes.
Thanks for the great video! Lucid is surely a nice car and some issues may be sorted out soon. But I think this brings us back to the question, what is more important, a big battery or medium battery and reliable fast charging?! To my opinion it is enough if a car can run 400 km at highway speed (~120 km/h = 75 mph) under "all circumstances" (winter, summer, mountains, ...) and can recharge 300 km in somewhat 20 minutes. A driver needs to make a pause and if you can run 800 km/500 ml within 7-8 hours it should be fine. With an 80 kWh battery the Lucid may be even more efficient (=less weight).
Seems like lucid still has some work to do in terms of software. The hardware is very impressive, but they need to fix the bugs and handshake issues as well for it to be a good car.
If those are the concerns that define a "good car" for you, you *really* should recheck your priorities... This car literally has the best range, fastest charging, excellent efficiency, is idiotically fast while being more comfortable than Plaid, offers proper ergonomics and has a lot of space. Sure, it's not EQS level of luxury, but one shouldn't expect that anyway.
@@CMCNestT their current software isn't really that bad anymore, especially not compared to the disastrous ID.3 release software. And where it really excells everything is route planning right now. Just hope they'll get rid of the idiotic "sliders" in the next generation.
@@BVZTIII yeah but it’s software that probably controls the whole car. it is concerning that there is bugs on a fully computerised vehicle, because next second you cannot get in your vehicle!
@@BVZTIII With an EV, being able to fast charge is not optional. It needs to work. Do you want to be stuck at an AC charger for a few hours like the olden days? Same for the software. If you walk up to the car and get in, it needs to just work. If it needs 15 minutes to reboot, then the range or efficiency won't help you.
This has to be my favourite 4 door EV. Expensive (as 2.1 million NOK would be AU$306,000 or US$198,000), ouch. It’s exterior design is superb and from what I have seen elsewhere it is brilliantly engineered. Gold over white is tastefully executed. Lucid by name, brilliant and easy by nature. There are some themes here that I find really attractive. White over colour reminds me of original Citroen Goddess in aubergine and white, and something about that rear gets me thinking of DeSoto for some reason or other. I can’t explain it but all things things I am in favour of. 👍👍 Anyway, a great range test.
Lucid is pretty nice. Agree with everybody about it’s got a long way to go for profitability. The software bugs might be worked out. The charging…not sure. Thanks Bjorn. Lotsa love to all from Toronto!❤❤❤ PS Sure happy we got a Tesla MY LR w FSD Beta. Hope you can try FSD Beta soon 🤔
@@agnostichuman7369 Tesla's FSD beta does a lot more, but for practical purposes, I don't find the local streets part useful. On the road, it's useful in the sense that features actually help driving. The Lucid is currently closer to my original Tesla with Autopilot, which should not be underestimated. Except Lucid doesn't yet have automatic lane changes. But what they got right that Tesla got wrong is that Lucid doesn't disengage autosteer if you take over. If you change lanes, then once you are in a new lane, and autosteer recognizes it, it's working again. Tesla requires torque on the wheel to sense that you are there, but too much torque disengages it. Lucid also wants torque on the wheel but you won't mess up that way. Also Lucid does a good job of eye monitoring. Hopefully they will turn off the steering wheel check in the future. Realistically, checking to see if somebody is holding the wheel was never an indication that they were paying attention, so that part is overly annoying in a Tesla. And until Tesla gets FSD out of beta, I don't find a lot that I consider essential, especially once Lucid adds auto lane change.
Hey Björn, State of Charge is not State of Energy. The effect is even larger for 800V vehicles. So if the car shows you 6% (customer) State of Charge left, it will be closer to about 4% of total energy left. Electrons discharged at lower voltage carry less power. Please try to run the cars to 0% to avoid this kind of error. Thanks!
That depends on whether or not the car's software takes account of that issue. You would have to test it in each car to know for certain. I guess that's why it is better to test to 0% if you want a truly accurate range measurement.
I remember 2 years ago they claimed to have the best auto steering / sensor setup. 2023 and doesnt have basic autosteer lmao... The software have countless bugs and that it can only charge 50kw at 400V on such an expensive car... They have some serious work to do before they run out of money
They do have the best sensor setup. Most of it's not needed for lane keeping, and the rest of ADAS is well behind Tesla for now. I did wait until it got to around this stage before test driving, but it's now at the point that I feel comfortable that it will do most of what I consider helpful for long trips as well as bumper to bumper traffic. What I find most useful with the most recent Tesla software is that if I'm in a place like Los Angeles where I'm not overly familiar with the roads, where a freeway can be more lanes wide than I can count, and whatever lane or freeway you are on, you will need to change to another, having a car that does it for you means that you can watch the road instead of watching the navigator or worrying about which lane an arrow ahead around a curve and upcoming merge is pointing to. But that's not a day to day issue for me. That doesn't mean that I think that what Lucid has is good enough, or they should stop improving it. With Tesla, my Model S started out with dumb cruise control, and took years to get to the point that it had Autopilot working well. Even the original Autopilot blows away what's on most new luxury cars. Nobody does videos on it so a lot of people don't realize how good it became, but it took years to get there. And without side cameras, it can't and won't ever have new functionality, unlike newer Teslas, Lucid, etc.
I saw two of these at an Electrify America charging station this past weekend. Sexy cars... but neither could successfully charge! I hope Lucid and/or Electrify America can fix these kinds of problems.
EA needs to fix it. There are other charging networks, but there's a tendency to want to use EA since the charging is included with the price of the car. That's not to say that I would never charge anywhere else. I've taken a Model 3 on a couple of road trips, even though my Model S has free Supercharging for life.
I remember the good old days when Lucid Air was going to be a Tesla killer, when they were going to be much more efficient than the competition because their engines were so light and small. Now that all the hype/early marketing is gone everybody realizes that this is just another good (and expensive) EV with its own software bugs and noise isolation issues.
It is a lot more efficient. It gets more miles per kWh than the Model S. The range numbers are realistic. The phrase "Tesla killer" gets thrown around a lot and Lucid has been trying to avoid it, but it does have better technology in most respects, except for ADAS so far, and a few missing features that were initially missing on the Tesla but showed up over the years. The interior is much nicer and more ergonomic and avoids many mistakes that Tesla made. I asked the sales rep, and he gets a lot of customers who drive all sorts of things, with no shortage of Tesla drivers. Even though Tesla has better ADAS for now, what I like about driving the Lucid is that Tesla uses torque on the steering wheel to show that you are holding it, and torque on the steering wheel to disengage auto steer. Both involve tugging the wheel and it's a matter of degree. The Lucid will complain if you stop watching the road, which is good. I find it a pain to get a Tesla to recognize when I'm holding the wheel, while the Lucid is better at it. Plus, if I change lanes, auto steer doesn't disengage per se, and lane centering starts again once I'm in the new lane. Tesla should be doing that, and with the Tesla it's both too easy to disengage auto steer by mistake as well as to not have it recognize your hands due to too little torque. It also has lots of features that people don't talk about in videos that I've seen, and once you use them, you realize what was missing in a Tesla. My frame of reference is a Model S and a newer Model 3. To be clear, I'm not getting rid of my Model S, and I still think that Tesla makes great cars. I wouldn't tell people not to get one.
When I reset it initially, I only pressed it once and it asked for confirmation. Other parts of the screen also bugged and didn't respond. For example when I tried to log out of Spotify by the end of the day.
Wow great performance and range.... Here we are with a good range of 400 500 km real highway range. Nice finally..... Now lower the price........ And we need small hacthback in southern Europe. So nice to see range of 450 km in highway
Lucid has some serious issues with public charging. 50kw is not acceptable for this car. Until they fix this, people will buy cars that can get 150 to 250 kw, which is every other electric car.
8:40 that's because all those German cars use active noise cancellation through the speakers themselves. I really, really don't like it - it gives me the same weird feeling I get when I wear ANC headphones. And the Air Pure with the aluminum roof is significantly "deader" inside. The Lucid is a lot quieter in cabin and wind noise, but louder in tire noise than most other cars in the segment.
Interesting to see that the charging in the states and in europe is having trouble with most of the chargers. Software for the handshake must not be doing something right to limit the amps or not charge as fast as it can
I really don't know what to think about Lucid Air anymore. I am in love with this car sonce it was announced. Almost 2 years past since forst deliveries and I think its getting worse. It was buggy from the very begging. They had time to fix and they didnt. Dream drive still doesnt work which is really strange given thebprice of this csr. Charging speeds are odd because it should charge like crazy and it doesn't. The quality should be much more higher than Tesla and it's not. It all should have been fixed right away beacuse pricewise its a very premium car.
@@bjornnyland according to the video, Moloughney pulled 117kWh to drive 500 miles at 70mph, with a temp around 15C. That is 146.3Wh/km. Well below, what you got at 90km/h. The difference in efficiency seems quite a lot. Rough Norwegian assphalt?
I can partially explain this missmatch looking at the tyres. If I am right, the lucid air summer tyres were specifically developed by Pirelli for the car so they probably reach a very low rolling resistance. The winter tyres that were mounted in bjorn test are less efficient for sure. The difference of results in the two tests is still quite big to be justified only by the tyres so I don't know.
Sadly they may have a really great car, however it appears from their financials they are having trouble getting/keeping customers. They delivered only 1406 of the 2314 they produced in Q1 of 2023.
Bjorn I asked you 6 months ago your top 3 EVs. Can you give us an update please? I received my black model 3 performance after 12 months of waiting. I love it. When I ordered I was very sceptical and considered cancelling, your videos helped me confirm and stick to my decision! I am so glad. Come to Australia and drive my 2023 model 3 performance
Coasting is not an issue with an EV. Easing up on the accelerator will slow you down, not because of brake friction but because of regen. You will go whatever speed you want to. In theory, friction could affect range, but the Lucid is already more efficient. And brake pads should outlast me. My 2014 Tesla is nowhere near needing a brake job, while I might have had two in an ICEv.
Nice looking vehicule, so why do you leave the screens full of dirt? I see that on almost all your videos... just a quick wipe and this will look way more appealing. Thanks !
Beautiful video thank you to sharing a nice video with lucid air grand edition I love it I hope you can test lucid air edition at night too. ….thank you again
Lucid wants to sell premium superior EVs with an outstanding price tag, but can't provide premium outstanding charging infrastructure or even good software. People who can afford such kind of a car, doesn't want have any trouble with charging. Tesla is still the only company, who can provide the overall superior experience
I've had great experience with Tesla superchargers but car companies almost never provide what powers them. The lousy infrastructure isn't Lucid's fault. The big difference is that with a Lucid, I can go on a trip that takes eight hours, including meal stops and restroom stops, not charge while I'm stopped, and arrive at a hotel where I can plug in and not have to worry about charging on the road. With a Tesla, I can charge problem free, but have to plan meals and rest stops around Superchargers. And these days more and more Superchargers are in the middle of nowhere with nothing but a few fast food restaurants. I have nothing against fast food for people who want it, but there are people who drive luxury cars who want a luxury experience for a trip.
I love the Lucid as well, but I like to tell people that a car made for 2-3 times what a Tesla Model S is made should be much better. Lucid selling the car at a much cheaper price making a huge loss on every car sold make it seem like the car is a direct competitor to a Model S, but in reality they would need to sell those for 180-250k to actually produce them in a somewhat sustainable way. That being said it's a very impressive car indeed. But I don't think they will be around for long and since this was their first car it will probably have some problems in the future, which is not a problem if the company is still around to fix them, but if they aren't then that might suck a lot.
People used to say the same about Tesla. When I got a Model S in 2014, it was in the six figure range and does less than a new entry level one does now. Back then Tesla was losing money but had solid long term plans. They knew from the onset that they'd have to spend more than they took in to work their way up to high volume cars, and it wasn't because the cost to make each car was more than what they got from selling it. The Lucid Gravity is very close to unveiling, and every bit of development was done with money from the Air or money raised other ways. It's not as if the revenue from the Air is going only toward building the Air. Lucid is working on several other models that they haven't announced and won't announce for a while. Building up a company costs money.
Lucids have been known to have have huge issues fast changing I’m the US. At first, everyone blamed Electrify America, now it’s very obvious a Lucid issue.
Sounds and looks like a great car for sure. BUT its more than x2 times the price of a Model S Plaid and i just dont see it being a x2 times the car. Not even close to be honest. Its slightly better here and there sure. But I just dont see a reason why would anyone go for this instead of Tesla S. (Unless you have millions of NOK to burn lol).
I can't agree with that statement. If u really value sunshades, the styling, the massage seats.... it's in no way 2x the value of a Plaid, but a Plaid is also no way worth its price over a 3... until that one feature means enough to someone with a large enough bank account... like there just certain intangibles at the expensive end of the spectrum. That being said, it is outrageously expensive and not good enough for me to want one, but i can acknowledge where it might have a sales pitch.
For some of the rich, the best of anything is always the most expensive. That way they can brag to their friends "do you know how much I paid for this?"
@@ScubaSteveCanada That only works in the 500k+ range of cars. If you buy a car that's worth 100k for 200k you are certainly not the cool kid in the rich-club.
Again, the charging mechanism makes a brilliant car almost non practical. This is where Tesla holds advantage on all competitors. Charging Charging Charging needs to be improved. Else the future for electric will be shaddy
Amazing, but I've seen the car, touched and it is luxury but not worth that much as the difference between Tesla S Palladium. Anyway I love it and if I had too much money I would go for it 😊 but it's confusing because Tesla has already the huge charging network and developing services
It is, but for practical purposes people use the range that their battery gets compared to how far they will need to drive on a trip. The kWh/100 miles used by the US government tell us how efficient a car is, but aside from benchmarks for videos, what really matters is whether cars actually get rated range, and the rest comes down to knowing how long and where you'll need to stop on trips over 500 miles.
The observers learned from the creators of car masterpieces. Nice looking car. I would like to see a recuperating and non break slow down on a snowy and curvy downhill street.
@@maxmustermann4400 I would guess that he can go straight to Helsingborg and back. Then he will be at least 10min faster than EQS 450+. So if the charging is behaving I would guess 8h 55min like ET5. Battery swap game over in other words.
Hard materials (see lots of glass) and flat surfaces = echo and not a deadened sound. That's why other OEMs sound different. All the extra soft materials, less screens, no glass roof, buttons and other stuff that make it less flat = more dampened sound. It's like an empty room in your house with just glass and hard walls. It will have a shit sound compared to one with huge curtains, sofa, carpets etc.
I found the car the be difficult to get in an out of. The distance between the seat and the roof line is very short and I kept hitting my head on the roof line when getting in. I’m only 175cm and daily an old cayman. I shouldn’t be having any issues getting into a mega luxury car…
You have my bad habit of leaving the car door open when you start a charge. Some chargers fail the handshake if the door is open. Have you never noticed that?
This one doesn't. And it's not a "bad habit" at all. All the EVs I have tested, which are hundreds, has no problem at all leaving the door open when start charging. You must have found a corner case in your case and you then assume it works for other cars as well.
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Here's to hoping lucid gives bjorn a car for a week at some point 🙏
Before they are bankrupt ;-)
They’re gonna go bankrupt.
Possibly the first real EV company to actually bite the dust after making some EVs from my knowledge…
@@faheemabbas3965hopefully the Saudi PIF lasts forever, I think they did ordered 100 units.
I hope he contact them , and provide them of his feedback. I reallythink they would appreciate it
Had a chance to drive a Lucid recently too and thought the same. It is a little noisier than I expected and there is a noise from the front motor that seems to be very noticeable. Loved it, but am concerned if they will be around long.
As of February 2023, Saudi Arabia holds a 61% stake in Lucid through the kingdom's Public Investment Fund.
Love to see Aaron commenting on Uncle Bjorn videos!
And cost an arm a leg a head ect......
@@stephenc6955 holding stock doesn't mean shit these days
@@stephenc6955oil money is never ending, hopefully.
If you look at the GOM @ 20:48 it shows "Charging Power limited by Station"
Most likely the car is limiting this and it claims it's the charger. I tried 3 different Ionity chargers and they were all the same.
@@bjornnyland the Ionity site looked busy, would it be possible that the power was limited because of that?
@@bjornnyland i can't see Lucid lying about it.
@@bjornnyland Given how buggy the software seems to be and considering that the car did not charge at all on Kempower charger, it would not surprise me if the car violated some standards related to communication with the charger. In such case, the charger might detect it as a malfunction in the car and refuse to give it full power.
@@FractionalCPTO Probably not. I have more than once charged at almost full and full Ionity stations and I have gotten 220kW every single time.
In mother Norway, EVs block gas pumps.
Uno reverse card?
An outstanding result. The Lucid battery has a little more than three times the net capacity of my 40kWh Leaf and can drive three times further.
Excellent result. 👍
According to the EPA website, the Lucid Air GT uses 26kWh/100 miles as opposed to 30 for the Leaf. So despite being a bigger car, it uses less energy per mile. But what's perhaps more important is long trips, where the Leaf has 99 MPGe vs 132 for the Lucid. So it's a third more range for the same amount of power.
To put it another way, a 9 minute charge on a Lucid adds as much range as going from 0 to a full charge on a Leaf. So if you want to go the same distance and don't need a full charge, a 22 minute road stop adds as much range as charging a Leaf to full, running it to empty, charging back to full and using up the whole pack again.
@@bW9taeH4 Greetings from Germany. My average consumption in summer is less than 13kWh/100km. In winter it goes up to about 16. I have watched most of Bjorn Nyland's 1000km challenges. I can't remember seeing any of the EVs tested that had better consumption than my Leaf.
A bigger battery is heavier. A heavier vehicle requires more energy to get it moving. The tires have to work harder to brake the vehicle. Tire wear is a lot higher.
For the 'EVs will save the planet' crap to actually come to fruition, we need lots of smaller vehicles with a small battery.
Yes, game over for Lucid. To make those expensive cars It costs them 2.5X selling price.
I honestly think that Lucid reinvented the sedan design, there's something very aesthetically pleasing about the way it looks. Perhaps it's the length/width ratio😍
Agreed. However, People think its a big car but its actually smaller than a Model S.
@@JM-wd3dk It's smaller on the outside, but bigger on the inside. In other words, the interior has the space of a Mercedes S class but the exterior size is about the same as a Mercedes E class. It has a bit under twice the trunk space of the Mercedes S, but if you add the frunk, it's about 2 2/3 the cargo space.
So it's a big car inside a midsize car. It's not quite straight out of Dr Who but it's impressive. It's not the roomiest I've ever owned (literally), but it's more than enough for practical purposes.
Never clicked so fast 👍
Lucid is for sure a premium Ev.. BUT.. in that price range i have ordered a Plaid without any doubts
Bjorn the car displayed on the dashboard that it was being limited by the station. You missed that
Most likely the car is limiting this and it claims it's the charger. I tried 3 different Ionity chargers and they were all the same.
Thanks for the great video! Lucid is surely a nice car and some issues may be sorted out soon. But I think this brings us back to the question, what is more important, a big battery or medium battery and reliable fast charging?! To my opinion it is enough if a car can run 400 km at highway speed (~120 km/h = 75 mph) under "all circumstances" (winter, summer, mountains, ...) and can recharge 300 km in somewhat 20 minutes. A driver needs to make a pause and if you can run 800 km/500 ml within 7-8 hours it should be fine. With an 80 kWh battery the Lucid may be even more efficient (=less weight).
Keep in mind that this car costs 2.2 million nok!
Seems like lucid still has some work to do in terms of software. The hardware is very impressive, but they need to fix the bugs and handshake issues as well for it to be a good car.
If those are the concerns that define a "good car" for you, you *really* should recheck your priorities...
This car literally has the best range, fastest charging, excellent efficiency, is idiotically fast while being more comfortable than Plaid, offers proper ergonomics and has a lot of space. Sure, it's not EQS level of luxury, but one shouldn't expect that anyway.
@@CMCNestT their current software isn't really that bad anymore, especially not compared to the disastrous ID.3 release software. And where it really excells everything is route planning right now. Just hope they'll get rid of the idiotic "sliders" in the next generation.
@@BVZTIII yeah but it’s software that probably controls the whole car. it is concerning that there is bugs on a fully computerised vehicle, because next second you cannot get in your vehicle!
@@NethercraftMCI'm with you in terms of not unnecessarily overcomplicating a car 🙃
@@BVZTIII With an EV, being able to fast charge is not optional. It needs to work. Do you want to be stuck at an AC charger for a few hours like the olden days? Same for the software. If you walk up to the car and get in, it needs to just work. If it needs 15 minutes to reboot, then the range or efficiency won't help you.
This has to be my favourite 4 door EV. Expensive (as 2.1 million NOK would be AU$306,000 or US$198,000), ouch. It’s exterior design is superb and from what I have seen elsewhere it is brilliantly engineered. Gold over white is tastefully executed. Lucid by name, brilliant and easy by nature.
There are some themes here that I find really attractive. White over colour reminds me of original Citroen Goddess in aubergine and white, and something about that rear gets me thinking of DeSoto for some reason or other. I can’t explain it but all things things I am in favour of. 👍👍
Anyway, a great range test.
Your blare out was very efficient lol
Sorry,, I didn't mean to shout 🤣
20:48 I you read the display, it seems that the ionity charger is limited to 180 amp and not the car.
Most likely the car is limiting this and it claims it's the charger. I tried 3 different Ionity chargers and they were all the same.
Great idea to blur the speed, I could not see how fast you was driving with the blured speed numbers 😄
That’s a Spotify problem, it does the same thing in both my cars. I’ve switched to Tidal and it’s way better. Lucid is awesome!
This is moment I am waiting for. We need real test for long distance and feedback from you. 🙏🏼
Lucid is pretty nice. Agree with everybody about it’s got a long way to go for profitability. The software bugs might be worked out. The charging…not sure. Thanks Bjorn. Lotsa love to all from Toronto!❤❤❤ PS Sure happy we got a Tesla MY LR w FSD Beta. Hope you can try FSD Beta soon 🤔
If the Lucid comes for 25-35K EUR, than it will be booming. Before that time they need to become fully legit (no bugs etc.) and be profitable.
FSD beta?
@@agnostichuman7369 Tesla's FSD beta does a lot more, but for practical purposes, I don't find the local streets part useful. On the road, it's useful in the sense that features actually help driving. The Lucid is currently closer to my original Tesla with Autopilot, which should not be underestimated. Except Lucid doesn't yet have automatic lane changes. But what they got right that Tesla got wrong is that Lucid doesn't disengage autosteer if you take over. If you change lanes, then once you are in a new lane, and autosteer recognizes it, it's working again. Tesla requires torque on the wheel to sense that you are there, but too much torque disengages it. Lucid also wants torque on the wheel but you won't mess up that way. Also Lucid does a good job of eye monitoring. Hopefully they will turn off the steering wheel check in the future.
Realistically, checking to see if somebody is holding the wheel was never an indication that they were paying attention, so that part is overly annoying in a Tesla. And until Tesla gets FSD out of beta, I don't find a lot that I consider essential, especially once Lucid adds auto lane change.
I get my Tortillas now. Thanks Bjørn!
Game Over, I could'nt find a better expression for Lucid.
Hey Björn, State of Charge is not State of Energy. The effect is even larger for 800V vehicles. So if the car shows you 6% (customer) State of Charge left, it will be closer to about 4% of total energy left. Electrons discharged at lower voltage carry less power.
Please try to run the cars to 0% to avoid this kind of error. Thanks!
That depends on whether or not the car's software takes account of that issue. You would have to test it in each car to know for certain. I guess that's why it is better to test to 0% if you want a truly accurate range measurement.
@@wr2382 Yes, as fast as I know, only Tesla shows a real SOE.
Can't wait to see this on 1000km challenge. I think Bjorn won't be able to hold that pee for 600km
lol he would - Bjorn Iron Bladder FTW
@@MrNikitir Or "pee bottle FTW" :D
@@evolt7553 new level: range is so good - you wouldn’t be able to hold pee
It won't go 600 km so don't worry.
Kyle Connor in usa dads lucid only does it 50 kw on supercharger with magic dock.
The CCS2 implementation could be in Beta stage, as I have seen over 300KW in the USA using a CCS1, maybe need to check with Lucid.
I remember 2 years ago they claimed to have the best auto steering / sensor setup. 2023 and doesnt have basic autosteer lmao... The software have countless bugs and that it can only charge 50kw at 400V on such an expensive car... They have some serious work to do before they run out of money
They do have the best sensor setup. Most of it's not needed for lane keeping, and the rest of ADAS is well behind Tesla for now. I did wait until it got to around this stage before test driving, but it's now at the point that I feel comfortable that it will do most of what I consider helpful for long trips as well as bumper to bumper traffic. What I find most useful with the most recent Tesla software is that if I'm in a place like Los Angeles where I'm not overly familiar with the roads, where a freeway can be more lanes wide than I can count, and whatever lane or freeway you are on, you will need to change to another, having a car that does it for you means that you can watch the road instead of watching the navigator or worrying about which lane an arrow ahead around a curve and upcoming merge is pointing to. But that's not a day to day issue for me.
That doesn't mean that I think that what Lucid has is good enough, or they should stop improving it. With Tesla, my Model S started out with dumb cruise control, and took years to get to the point that it had Autopilot working well. Even the original Autopilot blows away what's on most new luxury cars. Nobody does videos on it so a lot of people don't realize how good it became, but it took years to get there. And without side cameras, it can't and won't ever have new functionality, unlike newer Teslas, Lucid, etc.
Bjorn, you really need to test new Plaid Model S when weather is good, like this one :D
The reflection of the sticking also bothered mat watson from Carwow
But he doesn't know the difference between summer tires and winter tires? 🤣
@@bjornnyland that’s true 🤣👍
Been waiting a long time for this! I am very excited.
Apple is tempted to scoop Lucid. They can fix that buggy software and bring along the Apple cult. Such a beautiful car❤❤❤❤
That range is really good for such a heavy car!
You literally had no time to watch the video in full
Weight comes from big heavy battery too.
Lol. It comes with a big ass battery😂
The range is good even for a lighter car. The miles per kWh is slightly better than with the Model 3.
10:42 I know I am not alone - I am returning any car with such artifacts right away. I will never be able to ignore it.
I saw two of these at an Electrify America charging station this past weekend. Sexy cars... but neither could successfully charge! I hope Lucid and/or Electrify America can fix these kinds of problems.
EA needs to fix it. There are other charging networks, but there's a tendency to want to use EA since the charging is included with the price of the car. That's not to say that I would never charge anywhere else. I've taken a Model 3 on a couple of road trips, even though my Model S has free Supercharging for life.
I like that sun shade on the 100k+ car
"The car is smart. It don't want to play Taylor Swft". 🤣
I remember the good old days when Lucid Air was going to be a Tesla killer, when they were going to be much more efficient than the competition because their engines were so light and small. Now that all the hype/early marketing is gone everybody realizes that this is just another good (and expensive) EV with its own software bugs and noise isolation issues.
Yes, this is the difference between announcements and real life. ;-)
It is a lot more efficient. It gets more miles per kWh than the Model S. The range numbers are realistic. The phrase "Tesla killer" gets thrown around a lot and Lucid has been trying to avoid it, but it does have better technology in most respects, except for ADAS so far, and a few missing features that were initially missing on the Tesla but showed up over the years. The interior is much nicer and more ergonomic and avoids many mistakes that Tesla made. I asked the sales rep, and he gets a lot of customers who drive all sorts of things, with no shortage of Tesla drivers.
Even though Tesla has better ADAS for now, what I like about driving the Lucid is that Tesla uses torque on the steering wheel to show that you are holding it, and torque on the steering wheel to disengage auto steer. Both involve tugging the wheel and it's a matter of degree. The Lucid will complain if you stop watching the road, which is good. I find it a pain to get a Tesla to recognize when I'm holding the wheel, while the Lucid is better at it. Plus, if I change lanes, auto steer doesn't disengage per se, and lane centering starts again once I'm in the new lane. Tesla should be doing that, and with the Tesla it's both too easy to disengage auto steer by mistake as well as to not have it recognize your hands due to too little torque.
It also has lots of features that people don't talk about in videos that I've seen, and once you use them, you realize what was missing in a Tesla. My frame of reference is a Model S and a newer Model 3. To be clear, I'm not getting rid of my Model S, and I still think that Tesla makes great cars. I wouldn't tell people not to get one.
“What? That’s an EV blocking a gas pump?! Shieeet…” 😅
Wouldn't it be logical to hold down the reset button for a few seconds, so you don't reset accidentally?
Or, you know, just press it once and acknowledge an "are you sure" prompt - like everywhere else?!
When I reset it initially, I only pressed it once and it asked for confirmation. Other parts of the screen also bugged and didn't respond. For example when I tried to log out of Spotify by the end of the day.
@@bjornnyland You probably have to log in to your Licid ID to reset the trip meter.
Price and margins matter in the long run..even if your investors have very big wallets
Oh no, Bjørn, why you blur the speed!? I can't see 😢
Wow great performance and range....
Here we are with a good range of 400 500 km real highway range. Nice finally..... Now lower the price........ And we need small hacthback in southern Europe.
So nice to see range of 450 km in highway
Lucid has some serious issues with public charging. 50kw is not acceptable for this car. Until they fix this, people will buy cars that can get 150 to 250 kw, which is every other electric car.
The tag on the video is exactly correct- GAME OVER. Lucid going to bankrupt. RIP.
I've only seen 1 Lucid in the wild (St Paul, MN). A great looking car --also saw a Rivian a few minutes later.
I see them surprisingly frequently. But that's in the Fremont/Newark area.
8:40 that's because all those German cars use active noise cancellation through the speakers themselves. I really, really don't like it - it gives me the same weird feeling I get when I wear ANC headphones. And the Air Pure with the aluminum roof is significantly "deader" inside. The Lucid is a lot quieter in cabin and wind noise, but louder in tire noise than most other cars in the segment.
Honestly not as efficient as i thought for all their talk about superior technology.
Interesting to see that the charging in the states and in europe is having trouble with most of the chargers. Software for the handshake must not be doing something right to limit the amps or not charge as fast as it can
I LOVE Lucid Cars!! ❤️ Can't wait to get one someday 😘
Waiting for a summer test of the Palladium and Plaid.
Going to have to sell the Firstborn?
That is still a beautiful car. Thanks Bjorn
I really don't know what to think about Lucid Air anymore. I am in love with this car sonce it was announced.
Almost 2 years past since forst deliveries and I think its getting worse. It was buggy from the very begging. They had time to fix and they didnt. Dream drive still doesnt work which is really strange given thebprice of this csr. Charging speeds are odd because it should charge like crazy and it doesn't. The quality should be much more higher than Tesla and it's not. It all should have been fixed right away beacuse pricewise its a very premium car.
insideevs clocked 793km by driving at 112km/h, and 6.8km/kWh.
That's quite a difference.
That's 116.6 kWh net capacity. Maybe they went below 0 %.
@@bjornnyland according to the video, Moloughney pulled 117kWh to drive 500 miles at 70mph, with a temp around 15C. That is 146.3Wh/km. Well below, what you got at 90km/h. The difference in efficiency seems quite a lot. Rough Norwegian assphalt?
I can partially explain this missmatch looking at the tyres. If I am right, the lucid air summer tyres were specifically developed by Pirelli for the car so they probably reach a very low rolling resistance. The winter tyres that were mounted in bjorn test are less efficient for sure. The difference of results in the two tests is still quite big to be justified only by the tyres so I don't know.
Sadly they may have a really great car, however it appears from their financials they are having trouble getting/keeping customers. They delivered only 1406 of the 2314 they produced in Q1 of 2023.
And, lose a lot of money per vehicle. So much, it will spell trouble for them.
I see a capital raise in 12 months🤔
Lucid is nice. Love it!! Lets go!!
Oh Helga! Thats some good massage!
LET'S GOOOOOOOOOO LUCID✨️ FAMILY ❤️🙋♂️🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🕺🕺🕺🕺💎💎💎💎
why the front seats black and the rear seats white?
Bjorn I asked you 6 months ago your top 3 EVs. Can you give us an update please?
I received my black model 3 performance after 12 months of waiting. I love it. When I ordered I was very sceptical and considered cancelling, your videos helped me confirm and stick to my decision! I am so glad.
Come to Australia and drive my 2023 model 3 performance
Plaid, Model 3 Performance and EQS
@@bjornnyland merc is pos. I take Lucid anyday..
Man this is the EV i was waiting for you to review the most beautiful efficient EV that out performs Telsa.
Wow seems like kempower is a charger to avoid so many bugs with them.
5k:kWh seems thirsty. In the UK we’d be expecting 5m/kWh to be efficient. On a normal day I get between 3.2 and 4 miles per kWh out on my MG ZS.
But do you drive 120km/h?
And he did the math wrong. He said 162W/km, but 5.5km/kWh = 182W/km.
MEB cars have drum rear brakes. They have lower friction than disc brakes and likely helped MEB to coast better than the Lucid Air.
Coasting is not an issue with an EV. Easing up on the accelerator will slow you down, not because of brake friction but because of regen. You will go whatever speed you want to. In theory, friction could affect range, but the Lucid is already more efficient. And brake pads should outlast me. My 2014 Tesla is nowhere near needing a brake job, while I might have had two in an ICEv.
Impressive car, unfortunately it seems to be out of my budget range. What is the price for dream edition performance in nok ?
only for the 1 promille richest on the world, nothing for average people.
Nice looking vehicule, so why do you leave the screens full of dirt? I see that on almost all your videos... just a quick wipe and this will look way more appealing. Thanks !
Because it's not dirt.
@@bjornnyland well - translate this to dust, or dusty, or full of finger prints. I guess you got the point, right?
@@bjornnyland Looks like you ate Pizza and Tacos before you did the show and wiped your hands on the screen...... naughty boy Bjorn.
Lucid doesn’t have a “wow” factor. I see old people driving it
That’s because unlike Tesla you actually need proper money to afford this car.
I used to be Wowed ,now @ the price point I say ah OK.
Wy would putting up the Sunshades improve efficiency?
Less energy spent on cooling down the cabin.
Thanks!
Thank you for your support :)
Beautiful video thank you to sharing a nice video with lucid air grand edition I love it I hope you can test lucid air edition at night too. ….thank you again
Hm, on the display in the car there was mentioned that the charger limits the charging speed. Don't know...
Most likely the car is limiting this and it claims it's the charger. I tried 3 different Ionity chargers and they were all the same.
Lucid wants to sell premium superior EVs with an outstanding price tag, but can't provide premium outstanding charging infrastructure or even good software. People who can afford such kind of a car, doesn't want have any trouble with charging. Tesla is still the only company, who can provide the overall superior experience
I've had great experience with Tesla superchargers but car companies almost never provide what powers them. The lousy infrastructure isn't Lucid's fault. The big difference is that with a Lucid, I can go on a trip that takes eight hours, including meal stops and restroom stops, not charge while I'm stopped, and arrive at a hotel where I can plug in and not have to worry about charging on the road. With a Tesla, I can charge problem free, but have to plan meals and rest stops around Superchargers. And these days more and more Superchargers are in the middle of nowhere with nothing but a few fast food restaurants. I have nothing against fast food for people who want it, but there are people who drive luxury cars who want a luxury experience for a trip.
Sounds very biased and Tesla Fan Boy, but you’re still right 😂
Assuming your using superchargers often.
2.1 million Nok = almost $194,000 ... Ouch!!!
Rica etsem altyazı seçeneklerine Türkçe dil seçeneği ekleyebilir misiniz ? Sizi anlamak ve takip etmek istiyorum!!!
I love the Lucid as well, but I like to tell people that a car made for 2-3 times what a Tesla Model S is made should be much better. Lucid selling the car at a much cheaper price making a huge loss on every car sold make it seem like the car is a direct competitor to a Model S, but in reality they would need to sell those for 180-250k to actually produce them in a somewhat sustainable way.
That being said it's a very impressive car indeed. But I don't think they will be around for long and since this was their first car it will probably have some problems in the future, which is not a problem if the company is still around to fix them, but if they aren't then that might suck a lot.
People used to say the same about Tesla. When I got a Model S in 2014, it was in the six figure range and does less than a new entry level one does now. Back then Tesla was losing money but had solid long term plans. They knew from the onset that they'd have to spend more than they took in to work their way up to high volume cars, and it wasn't because the cost to make each car was more than what they got from selling it.
The Lucid Gravity is very close to unveiling, and every bit of development was done with money from the Air or money raised other ways. It's not as if the revenue from the Air is going only toward building the Air. Lucid is working on several other models that they haven't announced and won't announce for a while. Building up a company costs money.
Lucids have been known to have have huge issues fast changing I’m the US. At first, everyone blamed Electrify America, now it’s very obvious a Lucid issue.
Sounds and looks like a great car for sure. BUT its more than x2 times the price of a Model S Plaid and i just dont see it being a x2 times the car. Not even close to be honest.
Its slightly better here and there sure. But I just dont see a reason why would anyone go for this instead of Tesla S. (Unless you have millions of NOK to burn lol).
More than twice the price of a plaid and yet lucid is losing tens of thousands of dollars on each one they make 😂
@@darhex I think you mean hundreds of thousands! Recent financials show they lose $550,000 per vehicle sold
I can't agree with that statement. If u really value sunshades, the styling, the massage seats.... it's in no way 2x the value of a Plaid, but a Plaid is also no way worth its price over a 3... until that one feature means enough to someone with a large enough bank account... like there just certain intangibles at the expensive end of the spectrum.
That being said, it is outrageously expensive and not good enough for me to want one, but i can acknowledge where it might have a sales pitch.
For some of the rich, the best of anything is always the most expensive. That way they can brag to their friends "do you know how much I paid for this?"
@@ScubaSteveCanada That only works in the 500k+ range of cars. If you buy a car that's worth 100k for 200k you are certainly not the cool kid in the rich-club.
Extremely impressive numbers, fantastic range 👍💪
Again, the charging mechanism makes a brilliant car almost non practical.
This is where Tesla holds advantage on all competitors. Charging Charging Charging needs to be improved. Else the future for electric will be shaddy
Well. In Europe charging my i4 is as simple as a Tesla. Thanks to Ionity / EnBW.
the most beutiful car and innovative ever. just love It.
I must say he ( Peter Rawlinson) honed his knives in Teslas early days.
Could be the that the limitation is in the hardware motor controllers and not just software as he states
Amazing, but I've seen the car, touched and it is luxury but not worth that much as the difference between Tesla S Palladium. Anyway I love it and if I had too much money I would go for it 😊 but it's confusing because Tesla has already the huge charging network and developing services
12:50 Oh Helga!!!! 🤣🤣🤣
why does the car has higher consumption at 90 km/h compared to Model S Plaid, but lower one at 120 km/h??
Better aerodynamics but higher rolling drag due to higher weight and possibly worse rims / tires
In the UK we use Miles per kWh, which seems far more intuitive (for calculating range) than kWh per 100 km
It is, but for practical purposes people use the range that their battery gets compared to how far they will need to drive on a trip. The kWh/100 miles used by the US government tell us how efficient a car is, but aside from benchmarks for videos, what really matters is whether cars actually get rated range, and the rest comes down to knowing how long and where you'll need to stop on trips over 500 miles.
Topp test :-)
The observers learned from the creators of car masterpieces. Nice looking car. I would like to see a recuperating and non break slow down on a snowy and curvy downhill street.
I can confirm for downhill, it slows down for sure
You need to test the NEVZ
Looks exactly the same
8:20 that headrest looks mighty uncomfortable. I do think its a good looking car
Would be a killer on 1000km challenge. (No swap cheating)
Whats your guess on the time?
I think, without speedlimit its possible to do it in ~8h. With speed limit in 9h?
@@maxmustermann4400 I would guess that he can go straight to Helsingborg and back. Then he will be at least 10min faster than EQS 450+. So if the charging is behaving I would guess 8h 55min like ET5. Battery swap game over in other words.
@@paitor i hope there will be proof soon!
Realy looking forward to this one 😁
The Battery is 118KWh big.
Could the glass roof be responsible for the “echoing “ of the Lucid interior?
Yes
Hard materials (see lots of glass) and flat surfaces = echo and not a deadened sound. That's why other OEMs sound different. All the extra soft materials, less screens, no glass roof, buttons and other stuff that make it less flat = more dampened sound. It's like an empty room in your house with just glass and hard walls. It will have a shit sound compared to one with huge curtains, sofa, carpets etc.
I found the car the be difficult to get in an out of. The distance between the seat and the roof line is very short and I kept hitting my head on the roof line when getting in. I’m only 175cm and daily an old cayman. I shouldn’t be having any issues getting into a mega luxury car…
I'm sure Lucid was not targeting Rolls Royce drivers/ owners.
You have my bad habit of leaving the car door open when you start a charge. Some chargers fail the handshake if the door is open. Have you never noticed that?
This one doesn't. And it's not a "bad habit" at all. All the EVs I have tested, which are hundreds, has no problem at all leaving the door open when start charging. You must have found a corner case in your case and you then assume it works for other cars as well.
@@bjornnyland not the car but the charger, (BP pulse) is the worst for this.
248000$, GAME OVER.
Finaly🎉🎉🎉
Sadly, it will be game over for Lucid rather sooner than later because they loose enormous amounts of money per car sold.
Lucid bankrupt Q2 2024
Because km/kWh (or mi/kWh) is the only correct way. Peter wouldn’t tolerate the Wh/km nonsense.
Fine . Though you gotta remember the 2 model s was in colder weather :)
Don't worry. I have tested Model S LR Palladium lately in warmer weather.
@@bjornnyland great :)
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Finally..😊
What's wrong with a cat massage? :D It includes free accupuncture!