For y'all who have followed me for over a year a lot of these tricks probably won't be new, but at a certain point I had no choice but to compile them in a more up to date video Now it'd be really unfortunate if Face Customizer comes out on thursday............................................................
Hero forge: "We can't get hair designs to stack because it will cause clipping" Derf: Then literally uses clipping to get the hair to look the way they want
Ok, so the reason why the default model looks like a child is because they are in something called Heroic Scale. It is a style in which the characters have exaggerated head, legs, and hands. You can see it a lot on games workshop models, especially imperial guard. It's purpose is not only to make models sturdier, but it also is a lot easier to paint and a lot more readable when looking at a model from across a table.
Started watching these videos only a few days ago and I've been able to make some really great minis because of you. Character's I thought I couldn't make now look better than I imagined
My best tip: Colours look _vastly_ better when you shift another layer into another tone. For example: Plain green fabric does not look as good as green fabric with a blueish low tone and a yellowish high tone. Just making low and high tones a darker or lighter version of the base colour doesn't necesarilly give a whole lot of depth.
This is really interesting. I've always just been a really casual Hero Forge user, haven't even actually made a figure I'd buy. Was not quite satisfied with how the default humans look and I had no idea you can customize it to this degree, yours look so much better than just going with default options.
hey dude, i found your channel a few days ago and it really opened my eyes to better ways to create figures. my friends have asked me to redesign a few of their characters bc of it, so thank you, and if you can keep posting! i love your content
Man I learn something new every time I watch one of your videos. It might just be a small thing but, I never would have thought about "Hamhunching" (double layering a stout over a stumpy model) to get that Dwarf look. 👍
I've got a tip for anthro characters, especially felines: When using vertically slit eyes, it's a good idea to increase the pupil size to make them look dilated, or at the very least, fill the visible retina rather than looking like botched witcher eyes. I wish we had options for dilating/contracting pupils to make a character look ferocious/adorable, but for now pupil size works. On the same topic, slightly adjust the horizontal position of each eyeball so they look slightly crossed. When characters are looking at something in front of them, their eyes won't stare directly forward (a.k.a a thousand yard stare.) Usually I adjust it by about .5 on each eyeball. Also, max out roughness on fur, or at least increase it, you don't want a coat of fur to look greasy and reflective which it will with the default 50%.
@@cccormac4963 when the guy whos literal influencer job it is to work with this tool day in day out says to you that its horrible, then it is. Your needs are just so basic that you dont notice.
I really love you work and have been playing around with building a mini for an upcoming diorama I would like to commission. Wow, there is a lot to learn! Do you do any commission work?
One of my friends told me that the thing he didn't like about HeroForge is that the characters all look a bit "cartoony" - oversized heads, hands, features etc. The tips in this video get rid of most of those problems. And kitbashing's going to fix the hands. Many thanks for compiling this quick guide vastly improving the models.
WE DON'T MENTION THAT FIRST PART But ye that was very much the point. I know most of my viewers will already know these tricks, but I had to eventually compile them for the broader and newer audience's sake
@@Derfholm Also, how did you do the floating head above the bases where you suggested creating different types of bases? Now that I am pro, I would like to do this so I do not have to keep making new bases all the time.
At the very beginning of tip #2, how did you turn those spheres invisible? I’ve been using HeroForge for a couple years now but I haven’t ever been able to figure it out or even what to look up to find that information. And I’m sorry if this is common sense info
It's a small glitch wherein if you put an object that can be twisted in a hand, you; Twist the object in posing Press the trashcan icon on the object you just posed to reset the posing Then Ctrl-Z (undo) It will disappear but the hand posing around the nonexistent item remains
The new tiny glitch is very fresh so I haven't gotten around to making any proper guide on that- and that's assuming they won't immediately patch it. I'm afraid not on that one. As for making objects float in the air, I have an older video called something like "Heroforge - Latest News & Updates" where I go over it in the middle of the video! As for floating PEOPLE - I'd recommend you just pick up a link with a model that's already floating and go from there. There's plenty of em around. I have one or two of those in almost all of my videos
@@Derfholm - The point is that I want to learn to do it myself. I can't find anywhere that shows me how, and individual creators never post instructions, and can't be contacted in any way. They shouldn't patch it; they need to make it a feature-- especially since they have yet to add an imp familiar to their lineup.
Omg please-please-PLEAASE make a new coloring video! If you can even make similar dummy models as your old one that would literally be great good sir!!
@@Derfholm well, I started forging seriously when it was already a thing, and then I was eager to try it at its non-pro release. Obviously it would be nice ti have all the layering available on one mini, but that could be said about anything. Maybe I'm just an usual nerd😁
@@Derfholm in the Heroes Beta Community section. By the way just your top 10 tips has changed my designing. I print mini's all of the time. Great tips!
@@Mourndarkv I'm glad to have been of help! I do have a tag, I think it's just 'Derff' or something like that- but I never post minis to the community library. Granted, a lot of other people post my models there all the time, but I prefer to give links out to my stuff more exclusively here at the YT channel
I've come to realize the ol' if there's a will there's a way with HF. I made a character that needed a long headband, so I manipulated horns and colored em cloth! Using them as hair though would've taken me months more to figure out on my own, so thanks!
As a relative newbie who has made one halfway-decent double-stacked model (and I'm really only using it to add a bit more texture to her hair and make her already tattered pants even more so), it annoys me that they don't just use the same origin point for the two models or at least offset their origin points from the middle by a nice, easy-to-work-with amount. As is, it seems that no matter how close together I get the two models, they're slightly misaligned... and then I move them both two ticks to the right and they're not only still slightly misaligned, but they're slightly misaligned differently from how they were slightly misaligned before. (The slight misalignment isn't the issue here; it's the seeming inconsistency. Having that slight misalignment reduces flickering and allows for some neat effects like split-tone dagger blades, especially on something with prominent and oddly-shaped central ridges like the shard dagger and Nature's Fury.)
Anybody from Mortal Kombat, Street Fighter, DC Comics, TMNT, Dead or Alive, horror villains, Transformers, Marvel, Tekken, real life people or anybody that’s a recognizable figures. I’m having a hard time trying to make a shaved/buzz cut, any suggestions?
they aren't, and they don't have to be. this tutorial is mainly for people who use heroforge for making character references or just cool looking digital models in general. some of these can work for people who want to print (i.e horn hair/helmets) but otherwise they're not made for printing.
Something I've been trying to do for a while now is try to make an arachne character but I'm still struggling and I was wondering if you had any ideas or tips I might be able to use?? Though I'm fairly limited with what I can do with not having pro and all🥲😅
You won't need anything Pro to make an arachnid character, but generally they are indeed quite hard to make. I'd recommend clipping various horns through the face, both for the face-pincers as well as additional eye-stalk horns through the forehead if you want multiple eyes. Then, extra arms and bone-wings can make for really good additional legs & arms
For y'all who have followed me for over a year a lot of these tricks probably won't be new, but at a certain point I had no choice but to compile them in a more up to date video
Now it'd be really unfortunate if Face Customizer comes out on thursday............................................................
That would be unfortunate
Eh I feel like we still got a good few months until that comes out
I will say as someone who has used HF for 4-5 years, that will be the update that throws me off the most.
@@TheGraveKnight Given that they released a sneek peek image last week, I'd say only a couple of weeks likely, though of course it could be longer
Little did he know, we'd have to wait over 2 months.
Hero forge: "We can't get hair designs to stack because it will cause clipping"
Derf: Then literally uses clipping to get the hair to look the way they want
Lmao yeah
4:26 ok, for like a split second, it looked like the guy was flipping me the bird, and I laughed for a good minute.
Ok, so the reason why the default model looks like a child is because they are in something called Heroic Scale. It is a style in which the characters have exaggerated head, legs, and hands. You can see it a lot on games workshop models, especially imperial guard. It's purpose is not only to make models sturdier, but it also is a lot easier to paint and a lot more readable when looking at a model from across a table.
Started watching these videos only a few days ago and I've been able to make some really great minis because of you. Character's I thought I couldn't make now look better than I imagined
Thank you :D Love to hear it
My best tip: Colours look _vastly_ better when you shift another layer into another tone. For example: Plain green fabric does not look as good as green fabric with a blueish low tone and a yellowish high tone. Just making low and high tones a darker or lighter version of the base colour doesn't necesarilly give a whole lot of depth.
This is really interesting. I've always just been a really casual Hero Forge user, haven't even actually made a figure I'd buy. Was not quite satisfied with how the default humans look and I had no idea you can customize it to this degree, yours look so much better than just going with default options.
hey dude, i found your channel a few days ago and it really opened my eyes to better ways to create figures. my friends have asked me to redesign a few of their characters bc of it, so thank you, and if you can keep posting! i love your content
Thankyouthankyou! And of course, I don't have any plans on stopping
@@Derfholm :D
More tips, more improvements. Thank you very much
Don't pretend you haven't heard me give these tips 15 million times by now G
@@Derfholm I'm just doing my part, sir O7
the hair-horn tip is soooo good 🙏
Man I learn something new every time I watch one of your videos. It might just be a small thing but, I never would have thought about "Hamhunching" (double layering a stout over a stumpy model) to get that Dwarf look. 👍
Hahah yeah it works for a lot of different proportion mixes, one of the best advanced tricks out there, but very annoying to fiddle with
@@Derfholm yeah I get that. If you want anything that looks half way good you are gonna have to fiddle with. Thanks for sharing.
I just binged all the tip videos last night! Haha.That's okay. I'm happy to watch more :D
never did i expect to see someone using heroforge to make stills that's incredibly creative
I've got a tip for anthro characters, especially felines: When using vertically slit eyes, it's a good idea to increase the pupil size to make them look dilated, or at the very least, fill the visible retina rather than looking like botched witcher eyes. I wish we had options for dilating/contracting pupils to make a character look ferocious/adorable, but for now pupil size works. On the same topic, slightly adjust the horizontal position of each eyeball so they look slightly crossed. When characters are looking at something in front of them, their eyes won't stare directly forward (a.k.a a thousand yard stare.) Usually I adjust it by about .5 on each eyeball.
Also, max out roughness on fur, or at least increase it, you don't want a coat of fur to look greasy and reflective which it will with the default 50%.
So when the hell is heroforge gonna hire you onto their team. The biggest asset to advancing their site right here lady's and gentlemen!
Hahaha one can dream
I don’t even have the software but still think that your video is amazing.
its so amazing how incredibly horrible the og heroforge tool is but how much you can make from it by cheating the system
lmao yeah 100%
The og system isn't horrible, so don't even lie.
@@cccormac4963 when the guy whos literal influencer job it is to work with this tool day in day out says to you that its horrible, then it is. Your needs are just so basic that you dont notice.
Just found your channel this week and loving it. Thanks for the content. Your insights are awesome
Thankyouthankyou :D
I really love you work and have been playing around with building a mini for an upcoming diorama I would like to commission. Wow, there is a lot to learn! Do you do any commission work?
Thank you! And, yes, I plan on potentially opening commissions quite soon! Just needing to figure out sheets and categories etc
@@Derfholm That sounds great. I love to talk to you about a commission if and when you get up and running.
One of my friends told me that the thing he didn't like about HeroForge is that the characters all look a bit "cartoony" - oversized heads, hands, features etc. The tips in this video get rid of most of those problems. And kitbashing's going to fix the hands. Many thanks for compiling this quick guide vastly improving the models.
Ayo 69th video lets goooo
Plus, this is a pretty helpful tips for those who are new to HF tho
WE DON'T MENTION THAT FIRST PART
But ye that was very much the point. I know most of my viewers will already know these tricks, but I had to eventually compile them for the broader and newer audience's sake
yay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! we have more tips
Yoooo~ I didn't know about the horn-to-hair one! That's a pretty neat trick
thanks man! this video helped me a lot! sometimes i had the feeling that something was off, but i couldn't tell what it was
Another great video! You should make a video for booth lighting.
After watching this, I feel so stupid about what I’ve made so far
Great summary. Do you have a video on your stumpy LotR dwarf on how you made it. That looked interesting.
I do not, no, that one in the video was just an experiment. I will likely make a more proper build on it soon enough
@@Derfholm Also, how did you do the floating head above the bases where you suggested creating different types of bases? Now that I am pro, I would like to do this so I do not have to keep making new bases all the time.
pog more tips
edit: Sky castle item search engine update when??
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I've always wonder if a layerd model 3D prints well
as far as I know they print just fine!
I've bought myself five 3D color prints so far. Three of them used stacked arms. My most recent was a layered double model. They all came out great.
At the very beginning of tip #2, how did you turn those spheres invisible? I’ve been using HeroForge for a couple years now but I haven’t ever been able to figure it out or even what to look up to find that information. And I’m sorry if this is common sense info
It's a small glitch wherein if you put an object that can be twisted in a hand, you;
Twist the object in posing
Press the trashcan icon on the object you just posed to reset the posing
Then Ctrl-Z (undo)
It will disappear but the hand posing around the nonexistent item remains
have you ever remade the model from your first video with the skills you know now?
I have not, no! I just might make a video on that, pretty cool idea
Do you have tutorials about how some people exploit to make their characters do things like float in the air, or have an extra become tiny?
The new tiny glitch is very fresh so I haven't gotten around to making any proper guide on that- and that's assuming they won't immediately patch it. I'm afraid not on that one.
As for making objects float in the air, I have an older video called something like "Heroforge - Latest News & Updates" where I go over it in the middle of the video!
As for floating PEOPLE - I'd recommend you just pick up a link with a model that's already floating and go from there. There's plenty of em around. I have one or two of those in almost all of my videos
@@Derfholm - The point is that I want to learn to do it myself. I can't find anywhere that shows me how, and individual creators never post instructions, and can't be contacted in any way.
They shouldn't patch it; they need to make it a feature-- especially since they have yet to add an imp familiar to their lineup.
Omg please-please-PLEAASE make a new coloring video! If you can even make similar dummy models as your old one that would literally be great good sir!!
“Default sucks” - _Derf, 2023_
Also I relate to the angry/frustrated camera shaking :D
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I didn't imagine double-modelling was a divisive topic in the HF community…
For the usual nerds I think it's very common these days, but from my experience, there's a big silent majority of people who despise its existence
@@Derfholm well, I started forging seriously when it was already a thing, and then I was eager to try it at its non-pro release. Obviously it would be nice ti have all the layering available on one mini, but that could be said about anything.
Maybe I'm just an usual nerd😁
The lizard, what episode is that? The one with the snake face? I really wanna use that for my own character!
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This one!
What do you do for a Centaur?
They won't let you duplicate a centaur figure for some of your techniques.
I appreciate this tutorial. I didn't even know half of these tricks. Do you have a Hero Forge tag?
Elaborate on what you mean by a 'Hero Forge tag'
@@Derfholm in the Heroes Beta Community section.
By the way just your top 10 tips has changed my designing. I print mini's all of the time. Great tips!
@@Mourndarkv I'm glad to have been of help!
I do have a tag, I think it's just 'Derff' or something like that- but I never post minis to the community library. Granted, a lot of other people post my models there all the time, but I prefer to give links out to my stuff more exclusively here at the YT channel
Okay awesome. Thanks for the content.
I've come to realize the ol' if there's a will there's a way with HF. I made a character that needed a long headband, so I manipulated horns and colored em cloth! Using them as hair though would've taken me months more to figure out on my own, so thanks!
Creative solution, love to see it
My jaw dropped. 413 likes on this?! Criminal. I'll be sharing this around for sure.
Please make an tutorial in inspiration and etc...
Will see about that!
I like the default proportions, and I know that's controversial, but sue me.
hOW DaRe yOU
Lol
Do you have any tips on how to make a Monkey Character?
thx man, now im never truly happy/finished with a mini :D
Hey guys I’m trying to join the discord but I can’t figure out how can you help
In the description below the video, the Discord link should send you directly to the server via the Discord app, assuming you've installed it prior!
Thank you darf I’m in the discord
Derf
As a relative newbie who has made one halfway-decent double-stacked model (and I'm really only using it to add a bit more texture to her hair and make her already tattered pants even more so), it annoys me that they don't just use the same origin point for the two models or at least offset their origin points from the middle by a nice, easy-to-work-with amount. As is, it seems that no matter how close together I get the two models, they're slightly misaligned... and then I move them both two ticks to the right and they're not only still slightly misaligned, but they're slightly misaligned differently from how they were slightly misaligned before.
(The slight misalignment isn't the issue here; it's the seeming inconsistency. Having that slight misalignment reduces flickering and allows for some neat effects like split-tone dagger blades, especially on something with prominent and oddly-shaped central ridges like the shard dagger and Nature's Fury.)
Are you gonna show how to make certain characters?
Depends! That's a very broad question. Which certain characters are you thinking about?
Anybody from Mortal Kombat, Street Fighter, DC Comics, TMNT, Dead or Alive, horror villains, Transformers, Marvel, Tekken, real life people or anybody that’s a recognizable figures. I’m having a hard time trying to make a shaved/buzz cut, any suggestions?
Did someone made a Suck count?
WOW Hero Forge has come a long way from when I first found it.
how are these tips useful for someone who plans to print?
they aren't, and they don't have to be. this tutorial is mainly for people who use heroforge for making character references or just cool looking digital models in general. some of these can work for people who want to print (i.e horn hair/helmets) but otherwise they're not made for printing.
Holy crap. I just learned so much.
Time to waste 5 hours in HeroForge. 😂
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What would be neat is some links to heroic poses that people can use since the default ones are also a bit junky.
I plan on making a posing handout APR video soon enough! Just need to actually streamline and collect all my poses into one place before I do so
Something I've been trying to do for a while now is try to make an arachne character but I'm still struggling and I was wondering if you had any ideas or tips I might be able to use?? Though I'm fairly limited with what I can do with not having pro and all🥲😅
You won't need anything Pro to make an arachnid character, but generally they are indeed quite hard to make. I'd recommend clipping various horns through the face, both for the face-pincers as well as additional eye-stalk horns through the forehead if you want multiple eyes. Then, extra arms and bone-wings can make for really good additional legs & arms
@@Derfholm the legs are what I'm struggling most though the other tips are good ideas also, so thank you😁😁☺️