I grew up in the same town, and knew her pretty distantly. like we had a few friends in common, but I'm not gonna pretend I was her childhood friend or anything. She was incredibly nice, and more importantly, incredibly fucking shy. When she essentially asked to be left alone, it did not surprise me even a little bit. (Also, we do not come from a progressive area lol, it's tough for a leftist in sw Missouri)
i saw someone say they grew up 20 minutes from where she did and how incredibly difficult it is to dismantle and unlearn all the conservative influence u are under in a small town in the midwest like that. her town or county probably don’t like her views or stances to begin with
Obviously I have no way of knowing if you’re just making shit up, but that falls in line with everything I’ve heard about her. She’s said that “Chappell Roan” is like an alter ego for her, and that Chappell is much more confident and openly flirty/sexual than she is personally. So it’s kind of fucking awesome seeing Chappell stand up for herself, because it’s seemingly like being in that persona helps give her the confidence to be loud and assert her boundaries.
thank you to all my fellow students for letting me know right away it was a clickbait title !! i think we should bring professor wallace to the headmasters for this deceitful behavior!!!!! 🗣️🗣️🗣️
I almost DIDNT watch this because of the tittle. partly because I was worried I would disagree but mostly because I figured it was clickbait and was disappointed by that approach to this situation.
This 32 minute video has been up for 16 minutes, and your comment is 16 minutes old. Why would you make this comment before hearing a single word of the content?
I'm not a chappel fan but l can't help but feel that a lot of the reaction to chappell's political stance is in bad faith. Maybe I'm just too chronically online but I don't understand how people can see a lesbian art pop star who borrows heavily from drag culture and has been openly supportive of palestine and think her saying "both sides are bad" is her being a centrist rather than her being farther left than the DNC core. Like is the public's critical thinking skills THAT bad??? The context clues are Right there.
When we are 35 days out from an extremely important election, maybe you shouldn’t leave things up to interpretation. Being more clear about your stance hurts nobody. Her bothsidesism paints both sides as just bad when one is astronomically worse. She says “fuck the trans phobic policies on the left” but doesn’t even bring up how the right will criminalize and kill the LGBTQ. Maybe she’ll learn as she grows but there will never be a candidate that she aligns with 100%. Our best option now is getting the candidate in there that we can pressure for more progressive policies
Yeah, I am honestly getting so fucking tired if this online bull shit where everyone needs a dissertation written for them to explain any and every basic statement. If people want a little clarification, that can be fine. But Jesus Titty Fucking Christ, even after she gave them the clarification, they're still mad at her. Some made HUGE leaps that she's a republican, which was dumb already. But she clarified. She gave them what they want. And they still complained. And they still twisted.
Our politics have become so polarized and tribal that a ton of people operate as “if you’re not with us, you’re against us.” And, honestly, this seems to bleed outside of politics, as well. It seems like a large number of people will go out of their way to disprove a statement that doesn’t 100% align with their views, even if it doesn’t actually clash with their views, either.
like Khadija Mbowe said in their recent video (paraphrasing), "y'all need to have that energy for your elected officials and not Chappell Roan". like i get the whole thing about 'both sides bad' and needing media training. i just think actions speak way louder and Chappell Roan has been really clear through actions what her beliefs are. (edited comment to correct pronouns)
I don't disagree but it's an unfortunate fact that for Chappell Roan's position actions do not speak louder than words when your words get amplified and your actions do not.
What actions has she undertaken to help trans people? I know she is gay herself and does her makeup akin to drag queens, but what has she done that helps the trans community, especially trans youth? Is she involved in an organization, or in fundraising money for the community?
@@Panfila303 'what has she done to help trans ppl?' aside from very publicly performing your solidarity like oh for example, THRU DRAG???? bro a right winger isnt gonna perform in drag for trans kids- chappell is actively doing that NOW, get lost with this take!!!!
@sandrat9309 not too mention, all of this drama surrounding her is how I found out who she is. I've never heard of her until these commentary TH-cam channels and whoever else had mentioned her. I haven't listened to her music, or anything. So when it comes to actions vs words- I think it must be stressed that she should work equally as hard to be coherent and specific with the points that she's been trying to make. Why jump on social media and speak off the cuff, fumble the message, and then have to make clarification videos when one could just take a moment, compose a thorough message, then hit record. The amount of stress and frustration she's created for herself she could have cut in half at least. It shouldn't be up to the listener to assume we know what's she's trying to say. I don't know her. I don't know her background and all the things she's done. But I do care to know who she's influencing and how they're taking her messages- same way I care to know how other large influencers are swaying different groups of ppl too.
this poor girl 😭 can't catch a break. i genuinely think the root of her problem is that she rose to popularity way too quickly, like 0 to 100. it kinda gave everyone whiplash. She didn't have time to get acclimated to the attention and the problems that comes with it. The fact that gains so many fans, she's bound to get so many people who wants to bring her down.
She's damned if you do, damned if you don't. People expect her to use her platform, and it's pressure that she's not prepared for. She wants to be honest and support Palestine, but it's such a challenging thing when she's under so much more scrutiny than she was a year ago.
@@venusvicious4446 people are stalking her and her family. she's been thrust into a completely different life than she had. she was just diagnosed with severe depression. fame=/=a good life
to answer your question in the beginning, her support of Palestine is what did it, and the fact that she works so blatantly hard to promote queer visibility will get your ass diced up publicly. Taylor Swift on the other hand, shows up, endorses a candidate and dips for 4 more years. If she was constantly talking about Palestine I'm sure she'd be in the same boat
Taylor Swift doesnt talk about Palestine because her opinion doesn’t matter and whatever she says would only put her and her fans in danger. If Chappell Roan had a terrorist attack attempt at one of her big concerts she’d probably shut the fuck up real quick.
@@porfiriodiazcarrillo7551i mean fair point but she also endorsed biden in 2020 so i really don’t get why people were questioning who a possible endorsement would be for…
Fr. When I voted for Biden I didn’t vote for him jumping by over the moon happy about it, I voted for him because he was the lesser evil imo the same with Kamala. I’d never endorse her or brag about voting for her (or anyone because all politicians are bad in different ways imo* that’s just the way some people are. We aren’t nationalists that slob at the mouth over a vote
"how is she going to sustain this" I... don't think she was planning to? Hasn't she said she would step back from the public eye if she started to feel unsafe or if it affected her too badly? It doesn't even seem like she wanted this explosive fame in the first place, I wouldn't be surprised if she doesn't care about losing it. That's how I would feel.
ok but…..she has a platform. like yes shes a person but shes also a celebrity, she also addresses things immediately after going into a stressed state, where shes just going to phrase things haphazardly due to the stress. why is it so hard to criticize an aspect of someone esp Chappell without u guys turning it into an attack on….*checks notes* her being outspoken…?
All of this doesn’t matter because she isn’t proving she’s going to have a change on the current “fame package” and she shouldn’t be shocked nothings changed since she last addressed the public and speaking about politics in our current state of the United States, has already proven cause people to pull their support or give passionate critique. All he’s saying is that she shouldn’t be surprised based on the topic she responded to, and yes, in the grand scheme of things, she put herself in a strange place because of the way she conducts herself in conversation with people in interviews and on the Internet. This is the whole reason why Beyoncé doesn’t interact with her fans on social media or take interviews unless it is set up in a way where she can control the environment and what she says. She has a team, but I don’t think anyone gave her PR training. That also prepares you for times like this so she won’t have to reply on her socials. Even in real life, away from fame and celebrity, if you’re outspoken, there’s nothing really you can do but take it on the chin or talk about it with someone at home. Don’t you think that would be the more healthy thing for her to do if you care about her as an artist? Shouldn’t she pour her frustrations out to someone that’s closer instead of us on the Internet? I think even what she said was fine and she should’ve just left it at that regardless of the backlash if she truly feels the way she did.
I was thinking the same thing. Like, kind of a good way to cull a toxic fandom. We say we want authentic and real celebrities (I don't consider her one; I consider her an artist) but then when they are authentically imperfect we want to chuck 'em in the bin. Or demand they change to please our sensibilities, resulting in a crushing of that authenticity that attracted us in the beginning. Don't capitulate to them. Anyone who pays half a fucking farts attention to her art and actions can see where she stands. Demanding "linguistic" perfection from people is stupid. People who are "swayed" by an artist pointing out that both sides have issues probably weren't great political minds in the first place.
Most Democrats are NOT leftist but most Leftists are Democrats because of the two party system. The both sides arguement has merit because both the Republicans and Democrats protect capital interests but seeing it as a left/right divide is inaccurate when you understand the difference between liberalism and leftism and see that both parties are liberal (neoliberal) at their core. However there is one party that is distinctly adopting fascism and it’s obviously the republicans
Fascism? Everything you guys do, specifically in 2020, was fascism. You're all a bunch of fake woke 🤡.. you pretend to care about women by hash tagging MeToo. Then BLM came along (again) and it was black people you supported... until that wasn't popular (again) and then it was the Maui fires... until Palestine and Israel came along! Now that's what you guys care about 😂 I'll keep voting republican after having been a democrat for a decade 🇺🇸 ✌🏽
Fascism isn't something you can adopt, it happened in germany and italy ¾ of a century ago. The third position can be adopted by any country and it WILL be the way out of liberal democracy
While media training could help Chappell, she’s been right in her statements. It sounds less like miscommunication and more like people misunderstanding the core of what she is saying.
And denying that there's problems in democratic party because God knows we know half of the time they're lying to us about policies they promise and definitely aren't being the most neutral they can to get the most votes
@@goingferalluvsyup. They’re Republicans pretty much. Throwing trans people under the bus and treating undocumented immigrants and asylum seekers worse than Trump. But don’t tell Dems that. They only think about themselves.
@@vitaminwater9662 when did she advocate for not voting? she literally tells people to go out and vote in the interview that this video covers near the beginning, and she has publicly said she’s going to vote for kamala
@@vitaminwater9662 she literally said she's voting for kamala. she's just not endorsing her, because of their lack of action on palestine and trans rights do you think it's inconvenient to ask for politicians to actually work for your vote? as if it's not their job? do you think it's inconvenient when people don't just fawn over politiciansand not hold them accountable? as if they're not currently in power?
@@vitaminwater9662 You're the reason this video is being made. You're the reason Chappel had to come out and say that people obviously aren't listening to her. Take in more information before commenting about what you think is happening.
i just wanna give my opinion on this as a muslim palestinian thats family has been directly impacted and lost in the last year. i totally agree with chappell like im voting for kamala but i dont like it at ALL. like ive been in the streets for the past year protesting this genocide and nothing has come from it. to then have to go and vote for her anyways bc i have no better option is such a slap in the face. she could have worded herself better for sure especially when her words have such a big impact on the people who hear it.. but this is all so disheartening and frustrating..
i'm voting third party because I cannot in good conscience vote harris after the biden-harris administration made the choices they made. we have to hold them accountable.
@@therasilvithen you’re handing the win to Trump.. people like you got him elected in the first placce. You can’t always have a perfect candidate. If you think both sides are the same.. I can’t help you there..
Thank you for your perspective. I think it seems that most people are still blissfully ignorant about how truly awful the Democratic Party is bc they don’t center people outside the US or non US citizens and it is upsetting. It goes without saying that republicans are also god awful. I’m no Stan but I can understand what she meant bc I care about Palestine
When it comes to the american voting system, it's so messed up. The third party is pointless, but now is NOT the time to try to fix that. you guys basically have a choice between a turd with some glitter on it, or a turd that's rotting and and screaming about how excited he is to kill everyone, it's so bizarre. I continue to urge people to vote for kamala only because the dems have the SMALL plus of...not actively killing the people in America like trump would. Trump is full out saying how he would nuke palestine and how he wants to get rid of anyone who goes against him. Really messed up situation, and it sucks so bad.
She spoke up against genocide. I respect the fuck out of her if both sides are down to do genocide then we have a big fucking problem . she was brave enough to point that out
exactly! theyre nothing wrong with her calling them out. She's raise $ for LGBTQ protections and Palistine. This is the shared opinion of Gen Z and most millenials
People also forget that the language she’s using is not centrist language, it’s leftist language. I think she is still relatively new to socialist theory and didn’t realize how hostile the country is, especially liberals, against leftist theories.
I agree I just think the thing with her is that these outrages are happening almost every week to the point where now most people know her for something other than her music and that’s a career killer when you are just up and coming unfortunately! I feel like it’s possible she will make something everyone likes and they will forget all the things she said that caused outrage, but it’s also hard to tell what people are gonna like in 10 years.
We do have a problem. But only one party is amenable to being pushed to where we need them to go… only one official who’s running for Prez who we have a hope of shaming & demanding justice and a ceasefire.
I’m a big fan of yours and typically agree with most of your takes but this is rubbing me the wrong way 😭 Chappell shouldn’t be forced to spell out “I don’t support the right” word for word just because people lack media literacy when her actual views are clearer than most celebrities I’ve ever seen.
she shouldn't have to, but her lack of media training is going to seriously cost her her mental health. people on the internet are dumb but we can't do anything about their inability to think critically so we have to protect our sanity.
@@nb7venus She's choosing to continue saying what she's saying because she knows that she's right and she knows that it's the right ideas to be standing behind. It's not the healthiest for someone's mental comfort but what you have to understand is that she's a lesbian woman -- she's not gonna be getting amazing treatment and comfort from most people no matter what she says. She's a grown woman advocating for what's right and people are either vehemently attacking her or babying her like she's a precious flower who can't be allowed to voice her own opinions because it's dangerous. She's choosing to value morality over focusing 100% on her own comfort because overly-individualist thinking is part of what leads to bigoted societies.
There’s a lot of unreasonable expectations from people around a 26* y/o suddenly thrust into extreme fame and the public spotlight. I think Chappell (and the rest of us) will be fine once people stop treating her word as fact. It’s almost like she’s right about using your critical thinking skills…
fr, i am so tired of everyone coming after chappell roan for "daring" to tell people to stop idolizing US politicians and publicly supporting palestine. leave the woman ALONE
@@deee71194 not you warping my comment to mean something else. never said that was the same thing. just that people are idolizing harris by refusing to acknowledge her faults in policy and making fan cams of her on tiktok and whatnot. "it's irresponsible to conflate those actions" girl i didn't say it in the first place and neither did chappell. bye
@@deee71194 because she was also saying that separately (and it was the general idea of it)? Not my fault you don't understand. Don't know why you're coming at me hostile but this is clearly why you all are so ready to misunderstand people. Get a grip
“Voting for the lesser of two evils” means acknowledging both candidates are flawed and you’re just voting the less of two harmful situations. People say “voting for lesser of two evils” then expect you to be ra ra for the candidates and endorse and cheer for them, don’t understand the phrase. Like I’ll vote for Kamala, but I’m going to like every single tweet that takes a shot at her bs foreign policy.
jesus fucking christ you guys turn into republicans the second someone u love is criticized. like no, it’s not just the “kamala is brat” crowd. dangelo, to my knowledge, isn’t part of that crowd, but he has criticisms. is he now part of that crowd? do u see how ur copying not so great people with comments like this?
@ey3z4ya yeah but it's more of a "if you don't keep swimming you'll drown" situation. Currently the gov keeps making us choose between the lesser of two evils. You can vote third party but they'd never win because of the way its set up. So then it's like your vote didn't even matter. And we could try changing this, but it would take time, and we'd need people to actuallt focus and fight for change but given how things are going i don't see that happening any time soon. Its frustrating
nono, u don’t get to group in people who harass and stalk a woman trying to live her life with people criticizing the phrasing and actions of a celebrity with a huge platform. that’s not how that works
go on spend thousands of dollars to see her perform just for her to cancel last minute because she got "backlash" over her stupid political statements that added literally NOTHING to the conversation in a political climate where lgbtq+ and women rights are on stake. she could have avoided this situation if she didn't made those ignorant tiktoks and said 'there are issues on both sides" she should know better.
Hot take but I think Chappell Roan has exactly zero reason to give a shit about couching her words in a way that will make other people comfortable. As a very publicly queer woman who actively stands up for trans people, the media and the public are already strongly motivated to twist everything she says into the most outlandishly unflattering possible interpretation, and since that's already gonna happen no matter what, she might as well speak truthfully.
Maybe speaking truthfully vs getting your point across isnt two different things. Like, if I wanted to say I'm hungry, I wouldn't tell the person I'm full.
While I agree with this, I still feel like she should articulate her words better not to make others "comfortable" but so people(who actually care atleast) can better understand the points she's trying to make. Like I fully agree with what Chappell has said but I can understand why her statements caused a few headscratches.
Yes. As a bipolar just like her, I understand our feelings not allowing us to be composed and articulate, robotic and perfectly explained. People nowadays are on edge, ready to talk down morally on people like they don't just scroll twitter and jerk off all day. I'm not giving in to this trend of people thinking if you're not responding like AI they can invalidate all you say and talk you down morally.
so cancelling shows and wasting thousands of dollars that fans paid to see her is what society needs? wow you guys really need to stop[ worshipping these celebrities
I saw a tweet a little bit ago saying that chapel roan’s “rudeness” as so many articles have lovingly (/sar) put it, is what you get when a popstar finds quick success and the industry hasn’t had time to break them down as a person yet to where they feel like they just have to accept and endure any horrible treatment they get because “you’ve always wanted to be a pop star, so now we get to treat you like one (because ppl think celebs aren’t real ppl with human emotions and feelings?😭)”
No cause literally why should she ENDORSE someone? Think for yourself, she's right. She shouldn't be walking propaganda. There are problems on both sides and if you think that liberals don't have problems idk why you think we aren't human-
This is not a scary title... Also, its completely valid to say "I have issues with how both sides are dealing with the genocide in Palestine and neither have treated trans people right, but Harris' side is doing slightly better so my hand is being forced into that decision." A) it says I vote B) it says I don't endorse Harris but I acknowledge my decision to vote for her in light of the other option
have fun voting in the most lethal military, as if current wars arent enough. you guys are so lost it hurts, you have the power to vote both these idiotic parties out of office yet youre stuck on the most basic basic issues that shouldve been resolved decades ago. theyre walking you to the slaughterhouse and yall kindly oblige because they give you crumbs of 'rights' foh. my country is burning and all you guys are just busy arguing over 'lesser of two evils'
Yeah. And I don’t see how what she said about both sides having issues is wrong, did not agree with some of the takes DiAngelo had in this video tbh. He seems politically biased against and for certain sides. Both the left and right have been known to display extremist tendencies. That’s just a fact of life as is with all politics. I don’t think she said anything wrong tbh, but people will always find something to dislike no matter what she says.
chappell is a breath of fresh air in a industry so coward where most of the biggests names in the house are afraid to criticize their oh so precious politicians and i dont know. use their power and influence to do good outside of their country because for them, the world outside of the us and our struggles caused by their nation does not matter at all. she fights for her people but never forgets that there are others like them from across the world. she's the closest our current main stream scenario has to someone like sinnead o'connor and i love and respect her so much more than other bigger artists that i listen to even more then her. i dont know what the future holds for her but no matter what she does, i will support her decisions. chappells only flaw is being too good for this insdustry
Love that comment, couldn't agree more. In light of Kris Kristoffersons recent death Sinéads heroic fight to not give up her integrity and what she believed in and wanted to fight for is being brought up again and it is sad to see that we still can't deal with a woman speaking her truth on her own terms and with her own words, as non-pr-aprooved as they might be. I totally agree with D'Angelos worry that it won't be sustainable and that for her mental health she might be pushed to take a step back. However if she does not want to pr-train and filter her words than that to me is the strongest stance a person in the public eye can take. It's an us-problem, we as the audience need to learn to listen to all the information to not misunderstand, judge and cancel too quickly. I don't agree that it is always the responsibility of the communicator to mold your information into something everyone out there will be able not to misunderstand.
Chappel’s statement was not miscommunicated, she was clear and right. We have a problem of disingenuous journalism, a lack of critical thinking and very angry, reactionary responses to everything now “Both sides have done wrong” should never have been controversial and it just goes to show how bad two party tribalism has gotten Just because the democrats aren’t extreme in certain areas like women’s reproductive rights doesn’t mean they haven’t endorsed and funded a genocide and allowed dehumanising immigration policies to name two, those qualify as wrongs to me
Na, I think that criticizing a side you support is just as valuable if not more valuable than criticizing the side you dislike. Your political candidates are more likely to carry out the will of the people if they feel pressure to do so. Otherwise the democratic party will just continue to support Israel bombing Lebanon and Palestine. Among other heinous takes (ei Kamala's weird anti immigrant obsession). That being said you should condemn almost everything the alt-right stands for of course, but after you make that clear, asking for better leftist representation is essential. Especially before an election.
@@prodbywadda exactly this. With our democracy on the line, she should be CRYSTAL CLEAR about these things. I saw the clips of her speaking in a defranco episode and she DID sound like she was saying 'both sides'... We can stand against fascism and still be critical of our chosen leaders without that kind of call back rhetoric. It was a huge fumble on her part, since apparently that's not what she intended.
hard agree the idea that you should "save it for later" is exactly why we have this problem every election cycle and i believe this honesty will actually get more people to vote for democrats
A lot of comments are putting it more articulately than I ever could, but I still wanna throw in a couple cents if only for the alogirthm- I think a big piece D'Angelo is missing here is that probably the biggest sticking point a lot of people have against Kamala is her refusal to acknowledge/effective acceptance of the genocide in Palestine, and its a pretty MASSIVE sticking point cause, well, turns out we don't like our potential leaders being basically complicit in the mass murder of innocent people. Chappell's message, however poorly delivered it may have been, of 'it sucks, she's still awful for this, I'm voting for her anyway cause she's less bad but I don't have to be happy about it' is a very grounded and realistic take that can help a lot of people get over that same hurdle of actually voting for Kamala, and a reminder that we need to hold her feet to the fire once she's in. She may be a woman of color and not an out and out fascist, but she's also still a cop that all but endorses a literal genocide, even if she's the best we have. To my fellow students in the comments, if you want some supplementary -reading- watching material, F.D Signifier's most recent vid at time of writing Black Cops Won't Save Us discusses a similar message more articulately and from a black perspective, highly recommend giving it a watch
VP Harris is not cop and she has called for a ceasefire and a the need for a Palestinian nation. She doesn't have the power to stop armaments as the VP. No matter who wins Chappell Roan will still be a privileged white woman. I am a disabled Black immigrant and my life could change drastically if Trump wins. I am old enough to remember the decades long anti-apartheid movement. White people didn't drop out of politics when both parties refused to honor the South African Apartheid boycott. The protesters were called communists and supporters of terrorism by both Democrats and Republicans. Black people around the world kept going and we helped end apartheid.
I don't think DAngelo is missing the fact that Kamala is not a perfect candidate. Also "from a Black perspective" like DAngelo here ain't black. The issue with Chapell's first message is very clearly articulated by DAngelo in fact. If your brain is working and you follow politics I think there are zero reasons not to get it, except for emotional ones. When you get emotional, your brain just starts rationalizing the best way possible to believe in the thing you want to believe in, and his take of being both pro and anti Chapell at different times is honestly the best one could achieve.
i can't really compare taylor swift to chappell tbh. taylor is known for only saying things that will benefit her, making moves only when it helps her. chappell speaks her shit despite how it reflects on her. taylor won't actively advocate for anything "risky" to her brand. chappell is out here advocating for palestine and trans rights. i also think it's wrong to endorse a candidate blindly without telling people there will be repercussions, esp in this case with an on going genocide being promised to be continued by both sides. taylor swift is also a billionaire and chappell is a rising star who hasnt even hit close to being a billionaire. like i get ur point, but ur just comparing an apple to an orange rn. a different celebrity might've been better
yeah, taylor is just the epitome of white corporate feminism and only participates in "activism" when it personally benefits her. ex: dating a racist predator, saying nothing about palestine, Being A Billionaire, having an insane carbon footprint, etc.
@@sherriromas5871the “hate” Taylor Swift gets is incomparable to the harassment, misogyny, racism, and homophobia spread by her fans “in defense” of her.
@@parkerisles7256the hate taylor swift gets is literal t3rr0r1sts planning to b0mb her concerts and people murd3r1ng seven year olds in dance classes. I obviously don’t condone any harassment from Swifties but you can’t be serious about that statement
I think this video really misses the mark. I have family in Lebanon right now. I could get a call that they are dead any day now. I, and all of the Lebanese and Palestinian community, do not have time to “wait for Kamala to get elected to criticize her.” we have always seen our families and friends dying at the hands of the United States, regardless of whether Democrats or Republicans get elected. We have to use whatever “democratic” leverage we have to stop this, especially during elections. I’m really grateful that Chappell took a stance against what feels like a gross gen-z celebrity pandering from the Harris campaign. Charli XCX, Taylor Swift, and Billie EILISH have all endorsed Kamala while saying little to nothing about Palestine. Also, I am not convinced that Taylor Swift does not have genocidal intentions. She has said absolutely nothing about Palestine, and it’s been almost a year. She still showed her documentary in Israel, despite pressures on her to boycott any shows, films, or performances in Israel. Her dad also is a founder of the Swift Group at Merrill Lynch, which greatly benefits from genocide in Israel. D’Angelo, I feel like you’re sidestepping Palestine a lot when talking about Chappell’s statements. I can see what you mean about having better PR and her statements being misinterpreted. But I think the video doesn’t acknowledge the main Palestinians/Lebanese in this country and around the world who feel equally screwed and will have to keep fighting regardless of the election outcome. And I’m grateful Chappell Roan made an attempt to acknowledge that.
you put this perfectly! at times I honestly felt like D’Angelo was being purposely obtuse, especially when neglecting to mention why chappell said that both sides have problems and saying people who didn’t want to vote for Harris are centrists. i’m so sorry that you and your family are going through that, and i hope they get safety and justice soon
chappell roan does more than any of the other pop stars considering her strong support for queer people and palestinians. love her down. edit: people need to start understanding that when i say "pop stars" i mean artists that create pop music and are currently very big. also, people mentioning britney, madonna or possibly even lady gaga need to realize that i specifically said PALESTINIANS as well because there is STILL an ongoing genocide happening. i cannot believe how quickly some of the commenters like to dismiss that part.
This is false. How is she doing "more" than other pop stars? She's made a couple statements on the topic, and now she's getting credit for doing "more" than other popstars? When other artists like Kehlani, Macklemore, Dua Lipa, etc are not only vocal on those exact same topics, but send profits they earn specifically toward those causes, pushing against their own labels to do so, putting their money on the line to support those causes, etc. Chappell doesn't deserve all this vitriol, but don't give her more credit than she deserves.
she also phrases things badly and gets mad when people misunderstand a point she didn’t make clearly due to her stress. both can be true. these comments are giving “im queer so i can’t do anything wrong”
@@eauxkei702 macklemore could be described as a pop star though i wouldn’t categorize him as such considering he’s a rapper, kehlani has definitely said much more than chappell but she is not even remotely as popular as her atm and dua lipa has made good statements. my comment might have been a bit generalizing but it is not inaccurate. who other than dua of the big popstars is as vocal as chappell? no one as far as i know.
she was just very direct. why can't she deliver her opinions in a way that's authentic to her? why is it on her to make everything as digestible as possible to as many people as possible? it's not.
@@neru6686I would say if she wants to be direct, make one direct statement that's thought out. I love Chappell's music and agree with her, but piecemeal tiktoks clarifying past statements do not work and muddy the waters.
Ngl, as an non-usa (I'm argentinian) viewer nor a Chappell Roan fan, i don't get why she was wrong in this situation. Both sides are shit. Of course you shouldn't vote Trump (Had to vote the least shitty the same for my country last year and it sadly didn't win, I fucking hate my current president), but people just seem to not like that she calls out Kamala, or the democrats (I can not believe people really call or relate democrats to the left) Kind of shows some people's colors. "She has an efect on people" and that's why she choose to say that we should inform ourselves. If people can't get that, it's not her fault. Y'all wouldn't last a day in other music genres lmao.
It's not what she said, it's the timing. Not everyone can see it like we understand it. Almost half of my country voted for a conman. We may be rich as a country but sadly poorly educated. If this goes wrong, you could witness the downfall of America. It is that serious. Look at some of these comments. Some are saying she's right maybe we should vote for a third party. That one vote lost, can cost us everything.
Americans describing the democrats as leftists is so embarrassing, like they’re centrists at best and centre right in most other western countries. It seems funny that in a video banging on about communication to just constantly misuse words you know that have meaning.
criticizing an american for talking about american politics in american terms is not the take you think it is and this is coming from an actual leftist
Exactly… she’s allowed to do some “both sides”. She is clear that she supports women and queer rights, and she’s “both sides-ing” about GENOCIDE not queer lives 😅
Especially when Kamala is in part responsible for the billions of dollars and munitions being sent to israel currently. I don't want my tax dollars to go towards genociding Palestinians on their native land or massacring people in Lebanon. It's disgusting
It's difficult. She's right, and I think everyone who DOES use critical thinking skills knows that. However, most people are stupid. I don't mean that in a "ha ha" way. The vast majority of people have zero media literacy, have no concept of nuance, and don't know enough about politics to see past "good vs evil". This is systemic and intentional. I'm not dunking on humanity... but it's the reality we live in. It SUCKS seeing someone passionate and intelligent trying to make things better, but getting constant pushback because people love to be mad. The internet is just a void for everyone to scream their frustrations into, and usually manifests as ripping apart idealistic young people, primarily women. The system is to blame. The people waiting around with torches and pitchforks are to blame. The media's sensationalized headlines to get their piece of the views pie is to blame. Chappell Roan is NOT to blame.
i mean chappell is right, i don't understand what's so wrong to call out the "left" (is in quotes because any other person outside the us can see that democrats are just a diet flavor of right politics) like c'mon the current goverment is supporting 100% the awful things happening in gaza, but because it isn't happening to usonians, the so called usonians leftists won't care... it's almost comical how the us have to choose between alt right and right (who call themselves left)
it's very clear to me when someone hasn't really taken the time to know what chappell is about. her career won't end over this, if she loses popularity, it's from people she doesn't want in her fandom. Even if things were to go real bad, she has stated that she's more than willing to step off the music scene, she has done it before, she can do it again. she doesn't need to 'clarify' because she has explained over and over what she stands for. and like you said yourself, she can repeat everytime but some people just don't care. also saying to not criticize kamala and the democratic party before the election it's crazyyy, it's important to speak of it right now. specially when it's resulting in a GENOCIDE
Compartmentalizing criticism of a candidate is so anti-democratic though. We can and should criticize Kamala now too. If she is too vulnerable to these criticisms then maybe she should address them by improving her platform.
Thank you! There won't be any incentive for Kamala to make concessions to us after she's elected. If anything, *_now_* is the time for criticism, not after.
You don't have to think Kamala is perfect or above criticism to think "both sides are equally bad" is a dumb statement. You're creating a false dichotomy.
This, I don't understand this weird time we are in now that you can't criticize the party you support, we want them to know our concerns before they are in office.
@@FallingIn2TheVoid no one said both sides are equally bad, she said there are problems on both sides, which is just a fact. There are more problems on one side but still problems on the other
Not many people using this type of thinking realize that criticism of Kamala has a direct effect on whether or not the most important demographics of people who are needed to get her in office vote for her or even vote at all. You don’t have to agree on every policy that Kamala has to make sure that the greater evil is avoided. I agree that there are many criticisms to have about Kamala’s policies etc and those will be important to address, but the other side of that coin leads directly to immediate harm for more people as D’Angelo pointed out in the video. Is criticism of Kamala important? Yes, but so is making sure that fascism doesn’t accelerate to the point of having no democracy. The population of the United States is not equipped for a revolution and if fascism gets us there quicker that’s great but in the mean time you are contributing to the destruction of civilization. Though I suppose that will come for the country either way so honestly however you justify using your vote or not is something that you have to sleep with at night. I personally will be able to hold these beliefs in tension so that my friends and loved ones don’t get hurt any quicker than they have to.
i feel for chappell because like you said, she's really not even saying anything wrong, but it clearly really bothers her when shes misunderstood and.......... this is the internet and shes a huge popstar so shes GOING to be misunderstood. i hope she just gets offline so she doesn't completely lose her mind tbh. people are always going to take the things she says in bad faith
tbh i would’ve agreed with this video a lot more a couple months ago… but ever since Kamala started emphasizing her plans to build the “most lethal military” to help Israel “defend itself” over and over, I see Chappell’s takes as far less frustrating than I would’ve at the start of Kamala’s candidacy. With the developments in Gaza i can see why many of us now struggle to view the right as WAY worse than the left- not because conservatives aren’t that bad, but because democrats kind of ARE. her hesitation to endorse Kamala sounds more like leftism than centrism to me, and i think it has more to do with Harris’ faults, not an indifference about Trump winning. but i do agree that her PR team neeeeds to save her
to put it simply, it’s not that we’re gravitating away from Kamala, but that she has slowly been gravitating away from us. it feels like her statements pander more to the right/center every day and it’s getting harder and harder to WANT to vote for her
Exactly. Kamala is becoming more conservative by the day and we as democrats are just supposed to keep our mouth shut about it until the election! F THAT!!!
True and legit. The dems are DOING THE GENOCIDE and libs will go ok but trump is worse. Like. Your camp is doing a genocide how am i the villain for refusing to vote for it
I feel like people just wanted her to say that "Kamala is part of the Pink Pony Club" or something like that since no one wants to think critically anymore.
People are calling the title clickbait when it's really a meta-commentary on the fact that people got mad at Chappell because they read an out-of-context headline quote and never actually watched or read her statements.
watched her statements. she doubled down and made even more stupid comments I think she just need to log off. Canceling shows last minute because of this "backlash" when her fans spent thousands of dollars to see her is so disrespectful and not a good move that's what worshiping celebrities gets us she's acting like a spoiled brat we were all rooting for her what a disappointment
Couldn't disagree more. We're in a time where we need to be voting for the best worst option, sure. And that best worst option also deserves every piece of criticism it receives. Don't jump on Chappell like she endorsed fascism by daring to question democratic policy at the exact time democratic policy is begging us to criticize it (that's what an election is, guys). She's also completely correct in saying there's a distinction between voting and endorsing. I think most Kamala voters are not additionally endorsing her. At the end of the day, this is just a continuation of Chappell's fight to oppose our concept of fame. She doesn't WANT her opinion on the presidential race to matter.
Additionally, the "she didn't say exactly what she meant so everyone is allowed to dissect it and change it around to fit their own narrative" is a straight up right wing tactic that you've just decided is part of society.
"The liberals don't just want us to vote for Kamala, they want us to be as excited for her as they are" They are so excited for the idea of a black woman president and just fully ignoring (or supporting!!!) how openly right wing she is. Like honestly Trumps "We gotta get her a MAGA hat" hits too close to home because, yeah? She's fully terrifying. So yeah vote because we can't let Trump win but denying people the ability to even complain about it as they drop their ballot in the box? That's bullshit. "Leave it till after the election" Oh yeah D'Angelo? when the news cycle is moved on? When politicians are comfy in their seats and no longer need to worry about what the people care about until the next big thing pops up to distract everyone? At very best that's completely naieve, and then the gall to treat it like this is something he's been enlightened to with age? Let people vote for Kamala but let them make it well and clear how bad of a choice it is and maybe, just maybe, the dems will see how fucking much they have alienated anyone who actually cares about humans lives. Absolutely awful stuff.
How did you guys watch this video and see it as D'Angelo attacking Chappell for not endorsing kamala. All he is saying is she needs to get better a media literacy and actually communicate her points better so she doesn't have to make these videos trying to explain herself.
@@himothanielit’s something that happens often. and i don’t think it’s anything politically inclined to be honest both sides do it. just that the right is so much more loud about it. it’s like a basic principle in PR and communications that if a statement is vague anyone can take it how they want to and twist it with bad or good intentions. because at the end of the day people can’t read minds of each other so sometimes these vague statements lead to miscommunication. i don’t think danjelo meant it as a good thing? he just stated that it happens if you aren’t too careful.
Respectfully, I am very tired of hearing people push active problems to the side to rally for their team to win the election. The time for pushing the issues we want secured IS now, because there's nothing for the parties to lose after they win the election.
Yes. Currently as we stand, it's going to be Donald or Kamala. Period. A 3rd party candidate cannot win. It's impossible because they will not be on every ballot come election time. So, numerically, it will be either a D or R who is going to win. Should it be that way? No. Is it reality? Yes. So, people should galvanize and do something about it or just not complain if they're going to be complicit. Whether by not voting at all, by not getting involved in local politics/elections and only waiting for the presidential election every 4 yrs. Change happens from the ground up, not the other way around. But most people vote for a president and think their job is done, and then are upset when we get to the situation that we are now. It didn't happen over night. People worked to meticulously for years to get us to this place. So, we need to do the same, staying active and vigilant.
@@tatapulido4609people like you are the reason Trump won in 2016. I'm saying this as someone who voted third party in 2020. It's not going to fucking happen until we change our voting system and abolish the electoral college. You're not only damning us all but you're going to be the reason that Palestine gets wiped off the face of the earth if Donald "Netanyahu's bestie and namesake of a West Bank settlement" Trump wins.
@@tatapulido4609you’re literally voting for Trump if you vote 3rd party. We’ve learned this many times over, namely in 2016. Do what you need to do, but maybe you should consider not just throwing your vote away this election cycle. There is ZERO statistical probability for anyone to win besides Harris or Trump. Maybe we stand up for something else in 2028, but this time, we should consider just making sure we keep our democracy in tact so that we CAN move forward and CAN fight for something better next time. Trump and Vance will move us backwards and all you’ll be doing is fighting to get back to where we are right now. Trump is an even bigger Netanyahu fan than Biden/Harris. Our government has this weird relationship with Israel and they are part of the UN, so it’s not an easy situation. Best of luck to you.
I’m usually in agreement on most of your videos but this one is an absolute miss for me. She completely valid in her frustration and shouldn’t have to baby the masses this severely just to be understood. I’m not even a fan but it’s very obvious of what her intentions and what she was trying to convey. Maybe we should start holding the public to higher standards and expect them to use their brains more instead of putting the blame on celebrities or anyone for not formulating a super professional PR response. Also I’m voting democrat, but not because I think they’re better than republicans but because at the very least voting them stalls the worst of the legislations BOTH are trying to push. Kamala is not some saint to save us, she’s the civil servant I’m going to hold accountable for all the things she says she stands for.
D'Angelo agrees with all this though. He said she can be angry but still communicate in a way where her words wouldn't be misconstrued. He talked about how yes, the audience should have those critical thinking abilities, but they don't; so it's better to be very clear with your words. He acknowledges that both sides are bad, but that saying "both sides are bad" and leaving it at that sounds like a centrist take even though its clear that's not what she was going for if you read her interview. Edit: The only thing I disagree with so far (I'm only halfway through the video) is the part where he said vote first and criticize later.
It is a tragedy that we cannot be nuanced in politics anymore. “Nuance is counterproductive when certain things are black and white” - yes, but politics is NEVER black and white. Never. Criticism of political parties is crucial for democracy, and that includes when one is much, much worse than the other. We CAN have both. Don’t convince yourself that it’s not possible.
This is one of the few videos I have to disagree with This whole video to me personally comes off as victim-blamey to Chappell for sharing her frustration for the ongoing genocide. She and everyone else apposed is absolutely allowed to be critical, there is no "right time." Dancing around the main issue (the reason this all started up) was due to the fact that kamala supports the illegal apartheid committing massacres and is actively funding it, she is absolutely right in what she said and how she handled it because any other way she would be indirectly endorsing genocide. She's right in her wording, one side may be better but both sides will still commit genocide and to simply tell her to cease any critique because of the election coming up is exactly why these issues are never going anywhere, why these issues are ignored. What she did was stand on her morals. It really isn't HER fault such a clear message of frustration on the Democratic party got so misconstrued she should be allowed to voice her frustration and anger without any drawback on a genocide. Your videos are usually well put and informed but this one might just be a miss because if YOU were aware the same party you would ENDORSE was committing a genocide, a Holocaust to put it in perspective would YOU still feel comfortable doing so? Telling people to vote is one thing endorsing a canidate hopping on trends and acting like everything is alright is another and I wish you'd have pointed that out instead of, I feel suggesting she should've taken a route similar to what Taylor Swift did.
I understand the PR angle of "she needs to communicate better because people don't think critically" but I feel as though it's been painted as if it's her responsibility that they *don't*. She's been outspoken about supporting Palestine, queer rights and trans rights etc. It's not her fault that they've misconstrued every sentence out of her mouth, even when she *is* clear
So uhhhh, why can't people use their own brains to decide who to vote for? Why do y'all need a celebrity endorsement? The celebrity has their own reasons for endorsing a candidate, that may or may not align with your own needs. How tf are people expecting celebrities to brain for them, and for that to go over well 🤦🏾♀️
I think, by and large, it's less about needing a celebrity to "decide who to vote for" and more a parasocial thing. People both *want* to know that someone they feel a connection to shares their views on things. You see that a lot especially with streamers and TH-camrs where the parasociality is much, much higher. But, it's also a knock-on effect where the hope is that endorsers will bring *their* supporters/fans with them in their vote. That, for instance, is why Swift's endorsement was big news for a minute there: because the expectation is that Swifties will at least reconsider going against their idol. Is it still weird? Absolutely. But, I don't think it's an abdication of "thinking" so much as a glitch in how we're wired socially that mass media exploits.
Because I think sometimes we overestimate the state of critical thinking, common sense and public education, sadly, we need celebs and important people to spell out with sticks and stones who to vote for. We need to remember that education and subsequently critical thinking is a privilege at the end of the day and people sometimes need to be told who will be a better choice on the throne. This is exactly why the Right is winning so much ground, they know this and bet on it. That's how they historically have influenced the working class, just look at how the Nazi Party gained ground in Germany when they first started to recruit.
i’m gonna be so honest, if anyone took her video as “both siding” you are not a leftist, you are a liberal or conservative 😭 this is not a new talking point, many leftists online get this same flack for making the same points (ie hasan piker). like she was pretty straightforward; the binary voting system is corrupt, voting is still important, vote blue no matter who is fear mongering, and most importantly which no one is talking about, free palestine!!! nothing about this stance screams centrism i’m so sorry.
@@lexiigom I was thinking the exact same thing thing. Of course Chappell isn’t a centrist. It’s not fair to make that argument when her reasons for endorsement are because she if further left than either of the main US political parties. Criticising the Democratic Party should not be seen as controversial just because the Republicans are worse. That’s how you become complacent in politics, which leads to apathy and thus less people voting.
It's like... I'm not from the US, but my country also has two main parties. One is far right and one is standard liberal bullsh*t. But we still have some smaller leftie parties and that's who I vote for. Still, most of (especially middle-aged or older) people will assume that if you're against one of the main ones, you're pro the other. Like no dude, they both suck.
Respectfully D’Angelo this is the first video of yours that I really don’t agree with and honestly kinda rubbed me the wrong way. The fact is that while Harris may not be transphobic, racist, and misogynistic like Trump is, she is still part of a government that is currently funding a genocide. It doesn’t sit right to talk about the people whose lives would be at risk under a Trump government without also talking about the people who are currently dying thanks to the genocide being funded by the Biden/Harris administration. And I say this as someone who is trans and disabled person who could need abortion care at some point. Im very cognizant of the fact that my life would be at risk under another Trump administration, but at least I and others like me get the option to vote for someone who values my existence. The same cannot be said of the people currently being killed in Palestine. At the end of the day I will vote for Harris because I understand that we live in a 2 party system and we only have 2 options. But when the two options are either 1.) genocide and 2.) genocide plus transphobia, racism, and abortion bans, I think it’s more than fair for Chappell to say “there’s problems on both sides” and to say that she will not endorse Harris.
I think it's still important to criticize candidates while they're running to hope that they run on better positions. Obviously Kamala is better than trump, but 2020 Kamala campaigning for medicare for all was better than 2024 Kamala who is currently sending weapons and billions of dollars to israel. It's hard to suck it up and vote for someone who shuts down Palestinian protestors and who's campaign refuses to even mention trans people at the DNC. It's hard to vote for someone who's proudly building the wall that trump campaigned for in 2016 and yet, I'm being forced to so we can at least have another 4 years before democrats are campaigning for mass deportations in 2028. The frustration is palpable and very understandable.
@@LovelyLori193 sending weapons to israel, shaking hands with a war criminal, in 2020 saying she’s for healthcare for all, 2024 saying she’s for private health care, in 2020 saying she’s unquestionably in favor of banning fracking, 2024 she firmly says she will not ban fracking then goes on to brag that she in fact was the tie-breaking vote on the inflation reduction act which opened new leases for fracking, in 2020 said she was against criminalizing undocumented people, in 2024 she said she supports a border security bill that was, in her own words, drafted up by some of the most conservative members of the U.S. senate and congress, she’s the largest recipient of AIPAC money, she was a cop and a prosecutor that fought to keep nonviolent criminals locked up for prison labor, the list goes on. the cognitive dissonance of the “Kamala is brat” party is revolting, i don’t want to believe people are this dumb.
i mean kamala outwardly encourages isreal and seems to hold zero remorse for the people of Palestine, i can understand why even tho she has so many better policies than trump chappell wouldnt wanna put her name behind that
Also Kamala just did a speech where she promised to move Democrat immigration policy even further right and of course all the Kamala is brat folks just pretended she didn’t say that.
The whole idea that her saying both sides are bad, and she needs to have a public flogging because of this is terrible. Yeah one is worse than the other, but it's so obvious that the lesbian who says trans rights are important, free Palestine, talks about her love for drag queens, and says to also vote in local elections. Obviously isn't going to say they're both the exact same, it's implied she believes one is worse than the other. The article even points out prior to that statement about her left leaning ideology. At this point anything that is said can be misconstrued into something else, or someone else will say "Well what about this? I don't see you talking about this particular issue which means you're anti it." Anything and everything will be used no matter how clear and concise, or unclear a situation or words are.
Sorry but as an Arab, claiming that what Chappell said about both sides is irresponsible is tone deaf and something only someone so incredibly privileged can say. The democrats are facilitating a G-word (We cant even say the word to describe what is happening to us) but people are not allowed to point out that they are abysmal and eviI too? No actually, republicans arent "so much worse" than democrats, they are only marginally worse. Its absolutely fair for her to say both sides have problems.
So, trying to eradicate democracy is "only marginally worse" ? At the moment the Republican candidate is a guy who adores dictators because he wants to be one himself. On top of that he's pretty much openly sexist, racist and anti-science - I thought we all knew that by now?
Because for some reason, a lot of people require all entertainers they enjoy to share the exact same opinions and beliefs as they do or they can't cope with reality.
Especially because if we push them, they could just as easily come out and endorse Trump lmfao. And then everyone will be mad and say they should have kept quiet. I prefer to be blissfully unaware of celebrity political opinions and just decide based on my own research.
Hi D’Angelo! I am a long time watcher and a big fan. I don’t often comment because I don’t often find myself disagreeing with you or feeling the need to add to any discourse, however I do actually find myself disagreeing with you on this one. I am prefacing my comment to note that I am a LEFTIST (AKA not a liberal). There are actually many many leftists who are not happy about Kamala. You don’t have to be a “centrist” to be anti-Democratic party. Leftists punch to the right and if Democrats want to stop being hit, they need to move out of the way! Leftists do not want Trump of COURSE but please do not be so naive to think that Kamala or Democrats actually are helping people. They are literally facilitating a genocide RIGHT NOW. They are basically identical to Republicans on immigration! I understand, to a degree, what you’re saying about needing to consider how your words might be interpreted and that she could benefit from a PR team, but keep in mind she was a very small artist until VERY recently. That, plus I do think I am one of those people who disagrees with the notion that clear communication is solely dependent on the speaker. I understand she is not interacting on a personal level, but I know how EXHAUSTING it is to try to consider every possible way someone can misinterpret you as an autistic person. Being in therapy, I’ve learned that you cannot control how other people choose to interpret your words and actions. Of course you should try your best to convey a clear message, but I wholly believe how someone interprets something is more of a reflection of them than of the speaker. With all that in mind, are the communication dynamics different on a level as large as Chappell’s? Well yes! But I think it is a breath of fresh air for someone to authentically communicate their thoughts without the PR filter honestly. Let people be mad!! These types of people will never give anyone grace anyways, so why would you want to constantly be walking on eggshells within your own fanbase? Our society is unhealthy but it doesn’t mean we should bend ourselves to their unhealthy level. Obviously I am not necessarily against a PR team either but that is just my take. I’m sorry that I couldn’t finish the video but I want you to know that I am still a big fan. I hope you will take the time to read my comment . I would be very open to discussing my thoughts more with you if you’re interested. Being such a nuanced topic, it can be hard to write all my thoughts in a comment section.
wow i can't believe this is the issue where i disagree with you. waiting for the end of the election cycle to voice out your discontent with the "lesser of two evils" side is delusional. i've seen this same argument be made in 2020 and look what we have now, the democrats have moved even further to the right. and thanks to that my homeland has been bombed to smithereens. Chappell is a breath of fresh air, seeing someone with an actual backbone for once is very refreshing and leaves me hopeful. additionally, i think all of this uproar is caused by her pro-palestine stance, she's one of the biggest stars who's been quite vocal about her opposition to the genocide, so it's no wonder they're attempting a character assassination on her. I understand your points regarding communication but to declare her both sides statement as somehow problematic is a deflection bc the democrats aren't on disagreement with many of MAGAs ideologies, take Palestine and immigration for example. the only card you have now to push Harris towards action is the election, other than that, you really have nothing to hold over her head. lastly, i need ppl to stop treating our genocide as some minor issue to be discussed later. we're being annihilated on live television with american dollars. when is Arab blood gonna mean something? this is disappointing and infuriating. and somehow amidst this abyss, we're being told not to cause disturbance to the hitler in cheif bc apparently some people still think genocide isn't a deal breaker. there're no "lesser of two evils", America is the bringer of death to us, who cares if the one greenlighting genocide is an ally or not? none of us is free until we're all free. Edit: also, using TS as example is also far removed from leftist spaces bc we've spent months urging her to address Palestine considering her massive influence, so her statement of endorsement was just another slap in the face. additionally, i don't think she's one to take political opinions from considering she doesn't go deeper than meaningless statements while still associating with trumpers, racists, Zionists and contributes to the death of our planet so seriously huh?
You guys do not get it at all. There are a ton of Israeli supporters here (who support Trump) so many to the point where if Kamala goes completely against Israel she will LOSE the election. This is a tight election and she cannot risk losing anything. It is awful that that’s how it is here but she cannot just do what you want her to do.
10:02 - actually there aren’t a lot of centrists expressing that. The people expressing hesitancy over voting for Harris are people who oppose the Democratic party’s support of ongoing genocide in Palestine and now Lebanon
Exactly, and it’s annoying that D’Angelo doesn’t want to see that as something that has weight. There are valid reasons not to vote for Harris much like there are valid reasons not to vote for Trump and we should treat one like they are less innocent than the other because one is a better liar.
Reminder to double check that you're registered to vote even if you think you already are. Look into why Alabama is being sued over registration purges. Also, be aware that some states registration closes sooner than others (example Georgia closes Oct 7th). While being incredibly frustrated with our system is so valid, it's really a sign of privilege, ignorance, or despair to not take this seriously. We can't afford to lose any ground if we want to move forward. The despair is so real, but overcoming it is such a powerful act of defiance against systems that benefit from keeping you feeling powerless.
d'angelo my jaw is on the FLOOR over your take on this. i'm not even a huge fan of hers, but i have so much respect for what chappell roan said and the only way it can be interpreted as "centrist" is if you're not paying attention to the state of affairs right now. to be clear -- i am voting for kamala, but only because we have no choice. dems are using trump as a gun to our heads and are relying on him, celebrity endorsements/pop culture integration, and big money to win this election as opposed to EARNING our votes. and it's not even hyperbolic to say we literally CANNOT survive a bar this low. with climate change, the increasing possibility of ww3, COVID becoming an endemic, a housing crisis, and obviously the ongoing genocide in gaza -- the stakes are too high to dismiss the fact that BOTH OF THEM are hurling us down an existential path of destruction. if 2 pilots are inevitably going to crash a plane, how much enthusiasm is it appropriate to have for the pilot that tells you "the plane's not crashing! woohoo girl power!" on your way down? how much would it matter if the other pilot shouted "fuck you!" the whole time and crashed the plane a lot harder and faster? anyone that hates the republican party should be outraged that the democratic party has 1) bragged about kamala's endorsement from the cheneys 2) passed republican concessions (which costed lives) on the covid relief bill that didn't even have or need republican votes 3) passed a bipartisan infrastructure bill (they had a supermajority & didn't need republican votes) which exacerbated our car dependency and required more oil drilling 4) not done anything within their power to combat the republican party's assault on our rights (pack the supreme court, codify abortion rights, use the bully pulpit to defend trans people or debunk transphobic misinformation) 5) spent more money on police (and overseen more police killings) and drilled more oil than even f*cking trump 6) normalized trump's stances on immigration, israel, and COVID which not that long ago were considered far right extremism this is all off the top of my head but it's hard to even articulate their harm in a list. i mean the international and domestic laws that this administration has managed to break with their foreign policy decisions is astounding. not to mention the economy and what an unsustainable direction it's going in. comparing both parties deserves a venn diagram and it would almost look like a circle. this election has done a really good job of dividing and distracting the working class and tricking us into thinking we are powerless outside the voting booth. and omg please consider the irony of you saying wait to criticize kamala AFTER the election -- WHEN SHE IS LITERALLY IN OFFICE RIGHT NOW AND NOBODY IS CRITICIZING THIS ADMINISTRATION FROM THE LEFT. we keep being told that we can't criticize the democratic party or expect them to do good things or that they'll lose if they doing anything remotely progressive -- and look where it's gotten us. things like m4a, campaign finance reform, the green new deal, universal college, defunding the police, universal paid leave, and ubi have been completely erased from public discourse ever since biden was elected even though WE NEED THESE POLICIES MORE THAN EVER. it's possible to both vote for kamala and acknowledge the reality that she is not on our side. an endorsement of either candidate is an irresponsible use of a public platform that will age like milk when all this shit hits the fan. a more productive use would be to promote unions, class consciousness, grassroots movements, direct action and mutual aid. we can't keep letting the democratic party divert that kind of collective organizing towards their campaigns.
I am confused why you’re using Taylor swift’s endorsement as a good example of media training and being clear/explicit in her stance while also giving her the benefit of the doubt when it comes to not supporting a genocide (which she’s decided to stay completely silent about for a full year despite her massive platform- something she absolutely has been extensively criticized for) where Chappell has been very explicit about her stance on Palestine yet she should have been more clear on the “both-sides” issue?
I mean, love the dude but he himself hasn’t been as outspoken as he should be about the genocide happening. So I’m not surprised that this is his stance. He’s projecting quite a bit.
@@impossibletangerine9785 Well... If you want her words to have positive impact as opposed to create stupid backlash you should care. She's got a lot of people watching, of course I want her to be understood instead of misinterpreted.
I think that the criticism of Chappel for this is ridiculous. Yo keep saying that she should be aware that people don´t use critical thinking but the same happened to you not that long ago when you were criticised for not mentioning Gaza on your Starbucks video. People are always going to find something to complain about, you can´t control it and I think justifying or giving any thought to those opinions is a waste of time. Her message was clear. Yes, she was angry in her videos but who wouldn´t be? Also the fact that a lot of the criticism was fueled by zionists who don´t like that she cares about Palestine is telling. I find her not hiring a PR person so refreshing. Every time she comes out with a statement I support her more and more. The only concern I have is for her mental health in all this, because dealing with everything she is facing must not be easy, but you should blame the people who are putting her through this, not her, and definitely not settle for "communication is a job, you should expect that response if you are not 100% clear every time you speak, even though people are just waiting to get you for anything at this point". Also your take in the whole "the two sides have problems" thing is just wrong. I understand that mindset but the reality is that you can only push a candidate during the election period, not after. This is the moment to raise those questions and make them earn your vote. Just "not being Trump" is not enough. And she IS going to vote for Kamala, is not like she is abstaining, but she is pushing people to question her. I can´t think of a universe where that is wrong.
Your comment shows such a profound lack of understanding of us politics. We absolutely can push candidates after the election period because guess what? They can run for re-election. And if she had been clear and genuinely wanted to push her audience to question Kamala, she could have said “I implore my audience to be critical of policies on the left such as x y and z” rather than being the most vague she possibly could have been.
I do want her to hire one eventually, though, for her mental health. It cannot be healthy for her to absorb all this hate and criticism without someone to guide her along, and speak on her behalf when she isn't able to personally.
both republicans and democrats aim for the same goal-enrichment of the elite. they don’t care about us. that’s why fascism is lurking regardless of who we vote for unless the person were to be third party
i think reiterating that "using critical-thinking skills" shouldn't be expected is insane. why shouldn't we expect critical thinking? is it because no one is practicing it? should we also apply this to kindness, acknowledgement of our country's history, maybe we should stop expecting people to have respect all together. giving up on expectations is the fastest way to approve of behavior that shouldn't be normalized
queer women in the world of artists will always and have always been made to be political. her existence and art is forced into politics. we never do this shit with straight artists. when was the last time someone expected a popular straight male artist to clarify his politics. i don't think we should be this far into her personal life and personal beliefs, but that doesn't matter to those without critical thinking skills. i usually really enjoy your videos and takes but this one missed the mark in so many ways and comes off ignorant
really weird women celebrities are the only ones expected to give an endorsement. like i cant even think of any men. but when a women does or doesnt it gets thinkpieces. i never hear people complain about men endorsing or not endorsing. i was a fan of her since 2022 when things were fun and it makes me sad. i also cannot with snl i hate it. i'm the same way with all stand up. but love when comics have podcasts LMAO
You can change the party through primary elections and by writing your elected officials. You can eliminate the two party system by advocating for ranked choice voting. You can stay engaged and make your voice heard, when you don’t you relinquish your ability to influence politics whatsoever.
I think the fact that she got so big so quick is a huge part of why she has been so controversial. Im not sure how she will overcome all the issues. Ill edit this at the end of the vid if i have more insight
i don’t think so because sabrina carpenter blew up around the same time and in the same way as chappell, but she has no “controversies”. and people are okay with her exploiting queerness in her music videos and performances even though sabrina herself has clarified she’s “not queer”
@burnt-croissants you've got a point there, like her using queerness in her art, but not being queer, prolly saves her a lot of criticism. Like, now Chappel has been set up to a higher standard cause she's gay and vocal about what she believes in. It sucks
Hey, D'Angelo. At 11:55 you say "once we have the less insane administration, that's when you can unleash all the criticism you want". I'm genuinely wondering, now that we have most of Biden's term behind us: is there an instance where public pressure has pushed him to the left on an issue? Do we actually have any evidence that this is a viable strategy?
We've literally been BEGGING and PROTESTING to stop aiding the apartheid state of Israel since October OF LAST YEAR and have they listened to us??? Keep in mind that we have a DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENT in office RIGHT NOW. Yeah ok, kamala isn't gonna a do shit if she wins.
I'm going to venture a guess and say that maybe the point was to imply is that we have a uni-party that doesn't do enough for the citizens, and we deserve someone better than Kamala. I think that Chappell Roan, like most of us, believes that the American people shouldn't have to choose between a shitty candidate and an even shittier candidate.
nah you're spot on especially since the "two party system" is just one being centrist even on the right and the other is just extreme right. Democratic Party in politics both u.s even canada have never been about trying to help people in the slightest which is why real changes never really happen and are torn. It just sucks because people can't seem to comprehend it at all on that lone thing as to why Chappell criticizes it and im not even a fan of hers.
first miss in a long time, i got where you were coming from at first but you lost me. my opinion is it feels like the media is twisting everything and anything she says no matter what cause shes a woman and cause shes gay. we all saw what they did to brittany and that was just because she was a woman
bowen wang did nothing wrong, but there are parallels with how the media treats female popstars in her allover arch. you keep saying youre not on twitter and then pulling up tweets
@@LuckyLose-jv1iq also a lot of the people who came for her after her interview where she didn’t endorse Kamala were gay men, having disingenuous takes and straight up saying she doesn’t belong in the queer community?!? that’s where that sentiment came from. and like, if you’re not part of the lgbtq community of course you’re not going to understand the nuances and the dynamics (talking about d’angelo) but it isn’t some new phenomenon that gay men like to exert their opinions over women and especially queer women. even if we’re all queer, gay men still have the advantage of the patriarchy that queer women do not. and yes, while i don’t think bowen yang was being malicious and we shouldn’t harass him, his tone was condescending.
chappell is so valid. america is a democracy and a democracy isn't just about voting but it is also about raising your voice for the issues that matter to you. why should she endorse or even vote for someone who isn't listening and responding to her problems? also why would the people in power change their position if we as voting citizens don't tell them about our problems, if we don't show are dismay and disagreement.
The time for doing that and the vehicle for doing that is not fucking instagram one month before the election to one of the MOST important group of voters.
Yeah huge disagree on the "complain after you win the election" point. Complain every day. Treating it like a finish line or a dead line is giving it more power than it should have. Every day is a new opportunity to change for the better.
The part that hurts is that both side *are* death, D’Angelo. You’ve made a video responding to people “calling you out” for not talking about Palestine. I do think in that situation you were in the right, but you’ve never mentioned them before-hand. At least that I can look up. But that’s why people are criticizing both. People will die by our hands and our money no matter what we do because of the two party system. I understand the reasoning of supporting the left, but criticism of the left is good and doesn’t have to only happen outside of election times. That’s how we start to move away from a two-party system. Communication is important. Since you believe it’s on the communicator, I will go out and say it. You don’t seem informed past the basics. I may be wrong but that’s what I felt has been communicated.
100% agree with the point that D'Angelo seemed to have glossed over the genocide in both cases yet responded to the criticism received from the starbucks video, there's just a hint of irony in that. It's like he said in this video: he should've known that would happen for not mentioning the massive elephant in that video. And so according to his own opinion about miscommunication being on the communicator, that was on him. Usually love D'Angelo's takes, but definitely felt more conflicted with this one.
The whole voting thing is so annoying for people to get mad at. I will vote for a democrat but I would never endorse Kamala as Chappell is completely correct. Kamala doesn’t have any positive policy on trans rights, she just says she’s not as bad as Trump. Kamala doesn’t have any positive position on Palestinian rights, she just says she’s not as bad as Trump. She has completely accepted the Republican border policy and is now pro border wall. As a trans person, I absolutely do not believe this is good enough, like Kamala’s argument is that I’m 50% N*zi, but that guy is 100% N*zi so vote for me!!!
I respectfully disagree about your argument that demands for political parties should come after the election. I get voting for the less fascist of the options, I do it too, every time. However, it is vital that voters make their demands known and rally for them before the election as well as after, because the parties have more vested interest to meet those demands and integrate them into their programs before elections. Personally, as a leftist, looking at how the democratic party switched up their messaging in the past 4 years only (e.g. immigration) and how often democrats have been toothless in the face of the republican party even when they are fully in power, it seems unproductive to just stay quiet until after the election - because we just keep spiralling towards the right
The pathetic thing is that Biden won his campaign on being pro immigration and is now flipping on it because of Republican backlash. Now they're flipping on environmental problems, police funding, and medicare. Democrat party truly just enables Republicans, I hate it here lmaoo
Yeah like having been through multiple electoral cycles... The point at which we hold our own party accountable and force them to get down to business never seems to come? And then every election we have to go into crisis mode because the Republicans are accelerating into fascism (which they are/have; I'm not arguing against that), so we have to do whatever we can to hold them back. And I will. I do. I protest, and I vote straight down the Dem ticket every time (actually the Working Families Party ticket, but it's the same candidates getting the votes because they put forward the Dem candidates, so same difference). It's just tiring and not beyond criticism, and we should be able to publicly say it. (Also, when *IS* Kamala Harris going to pander to the pro-Palestinian vote?)
it’s fkn terrible seeing the dems fumble topics like immigration and trans rights because you’d obviously think that they opposed Trump’s insane views but they genuinely do not care anymore. The emphasis on protecting the border is so odd at a time where the safety of immigrants are being constantly threatened. I hate this rhetoric that we must settle and not even push for changes we want to see from representatives. They are serving the people at the end of the day.
That’s a fair point. I don’t think that full steam support is always necessary to get people to vote. It’s possible to emphasize the value of voting as harm reduction while still criticizing the dems. I also think that having someone in power keeping up pressure about enabling genocide is really valuable. But it must be horribly difficult to strike that balance in the public eye.
This is a hilariously corny take. Most of America feels exactly how she feels. Our money will continue to fund wars in other countries no matter who is in charge. That’s what she is saying. The fact that she doesn’t feel like either side represents her views isn’t a crazy take. That’s probably more common than anyone will actually admit to.
I'm not aware of all of the situation but from the clips I've seen, she hasn't missed so far. Endorsing genocide is not in the interest of anyone on this earth and standing up for oneself is absolutely valid. People are so mad at her when they should be mad at the politicians they helped put into power and who do not represent their interests. Choosing instead to fund israel or whatever other terrible border policy that keeps children in cages. Like be for real, this online outrage is pathetic.
People are mad at the politicians. But we’re here now. Turning your nose up as a leftist or liberal person and not voting for KH is only helping the right and everyone seems to be missing this 😭
@@thesovgc and I LOVE the youth but it’s a uniquely gen z, gen alpha issue. I do believe it is just a or experience thing? Like just not enough understanding of the larger picture? Look at the civil rights movement! And how much painful compromise had to be made for progress
This was a disappointing take. I thought you’d have more advocacy for speaking up and being authentic without needing to spoon feed people what she means line by line. I think we all know why her statement got so much heat, it’s not mostly because of her vagueness but due to her being super left. It’s because liberals are being weirdos with a mob mentality because she’s pointed out the truth and something that needs to be emphasized more. Edit: also you danced around the biggest elephant in the room: the active genocide, one that have now been extended to 2 countries. All being funded by the current democratic administration. If being better than trump is the only standard to getting our vote, then we’re over. This is super disappointing. We had a perfect chance to pressure Kamala to EARN our votes, yet we are bullying people who are standing with Palestine and rightfully criticizing Kamala. And let’s not even get into all of Kamala’s past and current fascist beliefs that hurts black and brown, esp poor ones the most.
I frowned so hard at the title when the video popped up on my feed. I am not a Chappell Roan fan (I don't think I can name a song of hers I'm sorry) but I know about the Tiktoks and I respect her for it. And now, watching the video, and reading the comments, I'm frowning harder at the title.
My takeaway was that while her takes are correct & valid, phrases she uses are being continuously misconstrued. Then, the criticism against her gets worse when she responds. I think the take here was just that there are ways to relay the same message while protecting yourself from awful people online and that media training could help with that? That’s what I picked up at least. Unfortunately people online will just refuse to think critically and that requires a work around.
I wonder if people are just being willfully obtuse because yes, Chappell is overall right but her phrasing and timing is wrong. You can’t be mad at people misunderstanding her when her original message was vague and unnuanced to the point that her fans have multiple interpretations on how it is perceived or what was said. If she really expressed a clear opinion, she wouldn’t need to make several clarifying statements afterwards. It’s not tone-policing, victim blaming, or misogyny when D’Angelo says, “this is giving you negative attention, maybe do this instead.”
@@parkerisles7256 The problem is that clearly D'Angelo's take is wrong, precisely because of these comments existing. Even if you were to take him at his word and believe that what he says is right, he himself is being flooded with an overwhelming amount of people disagreeing with him vehemently and telling him that what he said was bad and hurtful. Even if we were to assume the viewpoint of him being right, he's trying to give advice to someone on how not to be misunderstood yet most of the video's comments section apparently misunderstood him. He himself just proved that what he's saying doesn't work.
If you take a moment to think about the current major international conflicts in global politics today, it becomes very clear what her “vague” statement is about. Obviously, she’s talking about the US backing and support of Israel and their siege on Gaza and even Lebanon now, which both parties proudly endorse. I could tell right away when I read her statement because it is a cause I am passionate about and anyone else who pays attention to international news should know too. Its obvious she wanted to keep it vague to avoid stepping on toes at first since it’s apparently such a touchy subject for many to criticize genocide.
there's one thing the blue no matter who crowd either doesn't understand or refuses to come to terms with (I believe it's the latter), and that's that if losing critical votes, critical districts, critical elections, etc. from your own voterbase is not enough to get you to alter your platform to appeal to said voters, you are admitting that you do not serve your constituents. the inverse is also true; if, no matter how unpopular you are, you maintain your power, you have absolutely no incentive to change your strategy to maintain said power. what chappell roan is saying, like a lot of leftists critical of Democrats, is that she does not like rewarding bad behavior with increased political power. it's very weird that people expect her to cave to the elected official rather than the other way around.
Politicians aren’t going to take the fact you didn’t vote for them as a punishment and a personal lesson. They won’t be affected by your choice. You will. So if you vote for a radical, egotistical, vengeful dictator like Trump, or you don’t vote at all, or you vote for a third party candidate that doesn’t break 2% of the total votes… you’re not “sending a message”…. You’re deliberately making a choice that has serious consequences on you and the rest of the country that you have to be able to live with at the end of the day. It’s not always about voting for who you love, it’s about voting strategically - against who you most strongly disagree with, and for their opponent that’s most likely to win. Even if you dislike them too. This is the USA, not Burger King. You’re not always going to have it your way.
Untrue. At this point we're on the edge of total collapse into fascism, and voting straight Dem ticket is the only way to stop the extreme right and the terrifying Project 2025 strategy. Yes, I am aware of Harris' stance on Israel and Palestine. But she is also burdened with catering to centrists in an attempt to run.
im sorry d'angelo but this didn't hit 😭 she hasn't had the time to have real media training with her sudden explosive fame, excusing taylor swift's echoing silence on genocide n saying her statement was good was .......... n it's so clear the media is against her for every reason - being pro-palestine, pro-lgbt, being lesbian, actively putting drag on a pedestal and supporting queens at shows - she's going to constantly be put out in a bad way, it doesn't matter what she says or how she words it. I do agree she should take a step back from socmed but its entirely her decision how or when she wants to and i think she 100% knows she needs help with both her statements and her just like... PR. i have a feeling tho she'll continue to speak out publicly regardless of how people take it because she wants these issues to be heard and wants her platform to be used to amplify it and i dont think shes wrong for that. maybe itll ruin her career but i think she's rlly just trying to use what she has to make a change and people are spinning it negatively as they would anyone speaking on "controversial" issues.
I grew up in the same town, and knew her pretty distantly. like we had a few friends in common, but I'm not gonna pretend I was her childhood friend or anything. She was incredibly nice, and more importantly, incredibly fucking shy. When she essentially asked to be left alone, it did not surprise me even a little bit. (Also, we do not come from a progressive area lol, it's tough for a leftist in sw Missouri)
Aw that's so sweet
i saw someone say they grew up 20 minutes from where she did and how incredibly difficult it is to dismantle and unlearn all the conservative influence u are under in a small town in the midwest like that. her town or county probably don’t like her views or stances to begin with
Good luck to you fellow Missouri survivor ✊
Obviously I have no way of knowing if you’re just making shit up, but that falls in line with everything I’ve heard about her.
She’s said that “Chappell Roan” is like an alter ego for her, and that Chappell is much more confident and openly flirty/sexual than she is personally.
So it’s kind of fucking awesome seeing Chappell stand up for herself, because it’s seemingly like being in that persona helps give her the confidence to be loud and assert her boundaries.
your name implies thing......
thank you to all my fellow students for letting me know right away it was a clickbait title !! i think we should bring professor wallace to the headmasters for this deceitful behavior!!!!! 🗣️🗣️🗣️
COSIGNED 🫡
I almost DIDNT watch this because of the tittle. partly because I was worried I would disagree but mostly because I figured it was clickbait and was disappointed by that approach to this situation.
Wait I thought he was the headmaster
Dave is the headmaster
I'm a new sub, and this is making me reconsider that subscription.
not another click bait title d’angelo 😭 you’re gonna get posted on twitter again
lmaooo THATS WHAT I THOUGHT
he should change it
I thought it was referencing the auto generated titles from his last video
I think this video needs an animorph thumbnail and more yelling and quick cuts in the first 10 seconds
This 32 minute video has been up for 16 minutes, and your comment is 16 minutes old. Why would you make this comment before hearing a single word of the content?
I'm not a chappel fan but l can't help but feel that a lot of the reaction to chappell's political stance is in bad faith. Maybe I'm just too chronically online but I don't understand how people can see a lesbian art pop star who borrows heavily from drag culture and has been openly supportive of palestine and think her saying "both sides are bad" is her being a centrist rather than her being farther left than the DNC core. Like is the public's critical thinking skills THAT bad??? The context clues are Right there.
yes the public's critical thinking skills are that bad, unfortunately. i cant help but feel jaded and disillusioned
When we are 35 days out from an extremely important election, maybe you shouldn’t leave things up to interpretation. Being more clear about your stance hurts nobody.
Her bothsidesism paints both sides as just bad when one is astronomically worse. She says “fuck the trans phobic policies on the left” but doesn’t even bring up how the right will criminalize and kill the LGBTQ.
Maybe she’ll learn as she grows but there will never be a candidate that she aligns with 100%. Our best option now is getting the candidate in there that we can pressure for more progressive policies
Feeling about the same as you on this.
Yeah, I am honestly getting so fucking tired if this online bull shit where everyone needs a dissertation written for them to explain any and every basic statement.
If people want a little clarification, that can be fine. But Jesus Titty Fucking Christ, even after she gave them the clarification, they're still mad at her. Some made HUGE leaps that she's a republican, which was dumb already. But she clarified. She gave them what they want. And they still complained. And they still twisted.
Our politics have become so polarized and tribal that a ton of people operate as “if you’re not with us, you’re against us.”
And, honestly, this seems to bleed outside of politics, as well. It seems like a large number of people will go out of their way to disprove a statement that doesn’t 100% align with their views, even if it doesn’t actually clash with their views, either.
like Khadija Mbowe said in their recent video (paraphrasing), "y'all need to have that energy for your elected officials and not Chappell Roan".
like i get the whole thing about 'both sides bad' and needing media training. i just think actions speak way louder and Chappell Roan has been really clear through actions what her beliefs are.
(edited comment to correct pronouns)
I don't disagree but it's an unfortunate fact that for Chappell Roan's position actions do not speak louder than words when your words get amplified and your actions do not.
What actions has she undertaken to help trans people? I know she is gay herself and does her makeup akin to drag queens, but what has she done that helps the trans community, especially trans youth? Is she involved in an organization, or in fundraising money for the community?
It’s good to find a fellow Khadija Mbowe Watcher🙋🏾♀️
@@Panfila303 'what has she done to help trans ppl?' aside from very publicly performing your solidarity like oh for example, THRU DRAG???? bro a right winger isnt gonna perform in drag for trans kids- chappell is actively doing that NOW, get lost with this take!!!!
@sandrat9309 not too mention, all of this drama surrounding her is how I found out who she is. I've never heard of her until these commentary TH-cam channels and whoever else had mentioned her. I haven't listened to her music, or anything. So when it comes to actions vs words- I think it must be stressed that she should work equally as hard to be coherent and specific with the points that she's been trying to make. Why jump on social media and speak off the cuff, fumble the message, and then have to make clarification videos when one could just take a moment, compose a thorough message, then hit record. The amount of stress and frustration she's created for herself she could have cut in half at least. It shouldn't be up to the listener to assume we know what's she's trying to say. I don't know her. I don't know her background and all the things she's done. But I do care to know who she's influencing and how they're taking her messages- same way I care to know how other large influencers are swaying different groups of ppl too.
this poor girl 😭 can't catch a break. i genuinely think the root of her problem is that she rose to popularity way too quickly, like 0 to 100. it kinda gave everyone whiplash. She didn't have time to get acclimated to the attention and the problems that comes with it. The fact that gains so many fans, she's bound to get so many people who wants to bring her down.
The astrology girlies show she changes the fame world though because she doesn't back down i love her 😭🩷
She needs a larger team for sure
She's damned if you do, damned if you don't. People expect her to use her platform, and it's pressure that she's not prepared for. She wants to be honest and support Palestine, but it's such a challenging thing when she's under so much more scrutiny than she was a year ago.
Poor girl is wild 💀 nothing is even happening to her she’s perfectly safe and unharmed it’s literally just people disagreeing
@@venusvicious4446 people are stalking her and her family. she's been thrust into a completely different life than she had. she was just diagnosed with severe depression. fame=/=a good life
to answer your question in the beginning, her support of Palestine is what did it, and the fact that she works so blatantly hard to promote queer visibility will get your ass diced up publicly. Taylor Swift on the other hand, shows up, endorses a candidate and dips for 4 more years. If she was constantly talking about Palestine I'm sure she'd be in the same boat
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and mind you, TS did endorsed Kamala AFTER she was spotted with a Trump supporter,; not before, after. that says a lot about her.
Taylor Swift doesnt talk about Palestine because her opinion doesn’t matter and whatever she says would only put her and her fans in danger. If Chappell Roan had a terrorist attack attempt at one of her big concerts she’d probably shut the fuck up real quick.
STOP LOOKING TO CELEBRITIES TO CHANGE GLOBAL POLITICIS omg please I’m begging you they are all idiots
@@porfiriodiazcarrillo7551i mean fair point but she also endorsed biden in 2020 so i really don’t get why people were questioning who a possible endorsement would be for…
Honestly I agree with her. I'm voting for Kamala the same was I voted for Biden. Fucking begrudgingly AF.
Fr. When I voted for Biden I didn’t vote for him jumping by over the moon happy about it, I voted for him because he was the lesser evil imo the same with Kamala. I’d never endorse her or brag about voting for her (or anyone because all politicians are bad in different ways imo* that’s just the way some people are. We aren’t nationalists that slob at the mouth over a vote
"how is she going to sustain this" I... don't think she was planning to? Hasn't she said she would step back from the public eye if she started to feel unsafe or if it affected her too badly? It doesn't even seem like she wanted this explosive fame in the first place, I wouldn't be surprised if she doesn't care about losing it. That's how I would feel.
ok but…..she has a platform. like yes shes a person but shes also a celebrity, she also addresses things immediately after going into a stressed state, where shes just going to phrase things haphazardly due to the stress. why is it so hard to criticize an aspect of someone esp Chappell without u guys turning it into an attack on….*checks notes* her being outspoken…?
@emoclowngirl im really not convinced that its a celebrities duty to speak out, because frankly, what shes saying is making things worse for herself.
All of this doesn’t matter because she isn’t proving she’s going to have a change on the current “fame package” and she shouldn’t be shocked nothings changed since she last addressed the public and speaking about politics in our current state of the United States, has already proven cause people to pull their support or give passionate critique. All he’s saying is that she shouldn’t be surprised based on the topic she responded to, and yes, in the grand scheme of things, she put herself in a strange place because of the way she conducts herself in conversation with people in interviews and on the Internet. This is the whole reason why Beyoncé doesn’t interact with her fans on social media or take interviews unless it is set up in a way where she can control the environment and what she says. She has a team, but I don’t think anyone gave her PR training. That also prepares you for times like this so she won’t have to reply on her socials.
Even in real life, away from fame and celebrity, if you’re outspoken, there’s nothing really you can do but take it on the chin or talk about it with someone at home. Don’t you think that would be the more healthy thing for her to do if you care about her as an artist? Shouldn’t she pour her frustrations out to someone that’s closer instead of us on the Internet? I think even what she said was fine and she should’ve just left it at that regardless of the backlash if she truly feels the way she did.
I was thinking the same thing. Like, kind of a good way to cull a toxic fandom. We say we want authentic and real celebrities (I don't consider her one; I consider her an artist) but then when they are authentically imperfect we want to chuck 'em in the bin. Or demand they change to please our sensibilities, resulting in a crushing of that authenticity that attracted us in the beginning. Don't capitulate to them. Anyone who pays half a fucking farts attention to her art and actions can see where she stands. Demanding "linguistic" perfection from people is stupid. People who are "swayed" by an artist pointing out that both sides have issues probably weren't great political minds in the first place.
@@emoclowngirl 'turning it into an attack' ok. never said anything like that. i don't even listen to her music so maybe stop projecting shit onto me
Most Democrats are NOT leftist but most Leftists are Democrats because of the two party system. The both sides arguement has merit because both the Republicans and Democrats protect capital interests but seeing it as a left/right divide is inaccurate when you understand the difference between liberalism and leftism and see that both parties are liberal (neoliberal) at their core. However there is one party that is distinctly adopting fascism and it’s obviously the republicans
👏👏👏 This is the comment I was looking for.
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Fascism? Everything you guys do, specifically in 2020, was fascism. You're all a bunch of fake woke 🤡.. you pretend to care about women by hash tagging MeToo. Then BLM came along (again) and it was black people you supported... until that wasn't popular (again) and then it was the Maui fires... until Palestine and Israel came along! Now that's what you guys care about 😂 I'll keep voting republican after having been a democrat for a decade 🇺🇸 ✌🏽
Fascism isn't something you can adopt, it happened in germany and italy ¾ of a century ago. The third position can be adopted by any country and it WILL be the way out of liberal democracy
Thank you for this
While media training could help Chappell, she’s been right in her statements. It sounds less like miscommunication and more like people misunderstanding the core of what she is saying.
And denying that there's problems in democratic party because God knows we know half of the time they're lying to us about policies they promise and definitely aren't being the most neutral they can to get the most votes
Bingo!
@@goingferalluvsyup. They’re Republicans pretty much. Throwing trans people under the bus and treating undocumented immigrants and asylum seekers worse than Trump. But don’t tell Dems that. They only think about themselves.
👏👏👏 yep! Not her fault
I would venture some of those people being *committed to* misunderstanding the core of what she is saying as well
i mean it seemed obvious what she meant to me. she's been openly pro palestine why would she endorse kamala harris
idk why people were so shocked that someone as pro-palestine as chappell isn’t gonna fawn over kamala…like let’s have some critical thinking skills
Can we also use critical thinking skills to acknowledge that not voting isnt helping Palestine either? Or is that not convenient?
@@vitaminwater9662 when did she advocate for not voting? she literally tells people to go out and vote in the interview that this video covers near the beginning, and she has publicly said she’s going to vote for kamala
@@vitaminwater9662 she literally said she's voting for kamala. she's just not endorsing her, because of their lack of action on palestine and trans rights
do you think it's inconvenient to ask for politicians to actually work for your vote? as if it's not their job?
do you think it's inconvenient when people don't just fawn over politiciansand not hold them accountable? as if they're not currently in power?
@@vitaminwater9662 You're the reason this video is being made. You're the reason Chappel had to come out and say that people obviously aren't listening to her. Take in more information before commenting about what you think is happening.
that’s what i’m thinking. both sides protect fascism. one is just more open about it.
i just wanna give my opinion on this as a muslim palestinian thats family has been directly impacted and lost in the last year. i totally agree with chappell like im voting for kamala but i dont like it at ALL. like ive been in the streets for the past year protesting this genocide and nothing has come from it. to then have to go and vote for her anyways bc i have no better option is such a slap in the face. she could have worded herself better for sure especially when her words have such a big impact on the people who hear it.. but this is all so disheartening and frustrating..
I'm so sorry you're in this position ❤️
i'm voting third party because I cannot in good conscience vote harris after the biden-harris administration made the choices they made. we have to hold them accountable.
@@therasilvithen you’re handing the win to Trump.. people like you got him elected in the first placce. You can’t always have a perfect candidate. If you think both sides are the same.. I can’t help you there..
Thank you for your perspective. I think it seems that most people are still blissfully ignorant about how truly awful the Democratic Party is bc they don’t center people outside the US or non US citizens and it is upsetting. It goes without saying that republicans are also god awful. I’m no Stan but I can understand what she meant bc I care about Palestine
When it comes to the american voting system, it's so messed up. The third party is pointless, but now is NOT the time to try to fix that. you guys basically have a choice between a turd with some glitter on it, or a turd that's rotting and and screaming about how excited he is to kill everyone, it's so bizarre. I continue to urge people to vote for kamala only because the dems have the SMALL plus of...not actively killing the people in America like trump would. Trump is full out saying how he would nuke palestine and how he wants to get rid of anyone who goes against him.
Really messed up situation, and it sucks so bad.
She spoke up against genocide. I respect the fuck out of her if both sides are down to do genocide then we have a big fucking problem . she was brave enough to point that out
exactly! theyre nothing wrong with her calling them out. She's raise $ for LGBTQ protections and Palistine. This is the shared opinion of Gen Z and most millenials
People also forget that the language she’s using is not centrist language, it’s leftist language. I think she is still relatively new to socialist theory and didn’t realize how hostile the country is, especially liberals, against leftist theories.
I agree I just think the thing with her is that these outrages are happening almost every week to the point where now most people know her for something other than her music and that’s a career killer when you are just up and coming unfortunately! I feel like it’s possible she will make something everyone likes and they will forget all the things she said that caused outrage, but it’s also hard to tell what people are gonna like in 10 years.
We do have a problem. But only one party is amenable to being pushed to where we need them to go… only one official who’s running for Prez who we have a hope of shaming & demanding justice and a ceasefire.
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I’m a big fan of yours and typically agree with most of your takes but this is rubbing me the wrong way 😭 Chappell shouldn’t be forced to spell out “I don’t support the right” word for word just because people lack media literacy when her actual views are clearer than most celebrities I’ve ever seen.
this
she shouldn't have to, but her lack of media training is going to seriously cost her her mental health. people on the internet are dumb but we can't do anything about their inability to think critically so we have to protect our sanity.
@@nb7venus She's choosing to continue saying what she's saying because she knows that she's right and she knows that it's the right ideas to be standing behind. It's not the healthiest for someone's mental comfort but what you have to understand is that she's a lesbian woman -- she's not gonna be getting amazing treatment and comfort from most people no matter what she says. She's a grown woman advocating for what's right and people are either vehemently attacking her or babying her like she's a precious flower who can't be allowed to voice her own opinions because it's dangerous. She's choosing to value morality over focusing 100% on her own comfort because overly-individualist thinking is part of what leads to bigoted societies.
Yesssss
It's ridiculous, and essentially the same conversation as had with her setting boundaries with fans. She's a person, everybody is a person.
There’s a lot of unreasonable expectations from people around a 26* y/o suddenly thrust into extreme fame and the public spotlight. I think Chappell (and the rest of us) will be fine once people stop treating her word as fact. It’s almost like she’s right about using your critical thinking skills…
No really, common sense should be common sensing
26* but I agree
Shes 26
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fr, i am so tired of everyone coming after chappell roan for "daring" to tell people to stop idolizing US politicians and publicly supporting palestine. leave the woman ALONE
Supporting Palestine, but also just generally the descent into fascism that both dem and rep politicians are supporting (absolutely including Kamala)
Idolizing and endorsing are NOT the same thing whatsoever. Idc if she endorses anyone or not but it’s frankly irresponsible to conflate those actions
@@deee71194 not you warping my comment to mean something else. never said that was the same thing. just that people are idolizing harris by refusing to acknowledge her faults in policy and making fan cams of her on tiktok and whatnot. "it's irresponsible to conflate those actions" girl i didn't say it in the first place and neither did chappell. bye
@@irohha Then why did you say that’s what Chappell said in your original comment? You are just plainly contradicting yourself but go off I guess
@@deee71194 because she was also saying that separately (and it was the general idea of it)? Not my fault you don't understand. Don't know why you're coming at me hostile but this is clearly why you all are so ready to misunderstand people. Get a grip
Honestly never thought I’d see a title like this one especially not on Dangelo, got pretty jumpscared tbh. 😅
he's done like two other videos with this kind of title?
you must be new here
He's done titles like that before, but this one specifically is a reference to his last video where TH-cam suggested him titles like this I believe.
@@lolothesilly yes definitely but the thing abt this is he’s always been defensive of Chapel before but this seemed like he was attacking Chapel lol
@@8makes1team81 the reason I say that is bc of the fact this was abt chapel who he’s been defensive of before lol
“Voting for the lesser of two evils” means acknowledging both candidates are flawed and you’re just voting the less of two harmful situations. People say “voting for lesser of two evils” then expect you to be ra ra for the candidates and endorse and cheer for them, don’t understand the phrase. Like I’ll vote for Kamala, but I’m going to like every single tweet that takes a shot at her bs foreign policy.
Literally this!!
the “kamala is brat” crowd are really mad at her
Ugh that campaign is so cringe idk how anyone is okay with that
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Lol. Tirrb has a great video that I watched this weekend on Chappell and Charlie
jesus fucking christ you guys turn into republicans the second someone u love is criticized. like no, it’s not just the “kamala is brat” crowd. dangelo, to my knowledge, isn’t part of that crowd, but he has criticisms. is he now part of that crowd? do u see how ur copying not so great people with comments like this?
literally that’s the ppl who took offense to what she said when she said nothing wrong…
Our two-party system is speedrunning a holocaust and climate death right now 💀
Exactly, but people still want to play along and pretend it's making a difference
@ey3z4ya yeah but it's more of a "if you don't keep swimming you'll drown" situation. Currently the gov keeps making us choose between the lesser of two evils. You can vote third party but they'd never win because of the way its set up. So then it's like your vote didn't even matter. And we could try changing this, but it would take time, and we'd need people to actuallt focus and fight for change but given how things are going i don't see that happening any time soon. Its frustrating
Chappell is everything pop stars nowadays aren't. Part of why people keep getting pissed off by her lol.
nono, u don’t get to group in people who harass and stalk a woman trying to live her life with people criticizing the phrasing and actions of a celebrity with a huge platform. that’s not how that works
She literally said back off and the media did the opposite. It seems antagonistic
go on spend thousands of dollars to see her perform just for her to cancel last minute because she got "backlash" over her stupid political statements that added literally NOTHING to the conversation in a political climate where lgbtq+ and women rights are on stake. she could have avoided this situation if she didn't made those ignorant tiktoks and said 'there are issues on both sides" she should know better.
Mmm she seems wishy washy like all of them for money
@@nanomiaexactly talk about oversimplifying 😂
Let a woman express herself without the "I just care about how she is coming across" because it's not your responsibility.
Hot take but I think Chappell Roan has exactly zero reason to give a shit about couching her words in a way that will make other people comfortable. As a very publicly queer woman who actively stands up for trans people, the media and the public are already strongly motivated to twist everything she says into the most outlandishly unflattering possible interpretation, and since that's already gonna happen no matter what, she might as well speak truthfully.
Also, the "problem on both sides" she mentioned is a fucking genocide. She is critical of both major parties for supporting a genocide.
Maybe speaking truthfully vs getting your point across isnt two different things. Like, if I wanted to say I'm hungry, I wouldn't tell the person I'm full.
While I agree with this, I still feel like she should articulate her words better not to make others "comfortable" but so people(who actually care atleast) can better understand the points she's trying to make. Like I fully agree with what Chappell has said but I can understand why her statements caused a few headscratches.
Yes. As a bipolar just like her, I understand our feelings not allowing us to be composed and articulate, robotic and perfectly explained. People nowadays are on edge, ready to talk down morally on people like they don't just scroll twitter and jerk off all day. I'm not giving in to this trend of people thinking if you're not responding like AI they can invalidate all you say and talk you down morally.
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I’m so fed up of female celebrities being told to play nice and keep quiet, it’s about time we had someone like Chappell calling out society bs
YEP
She needs to do a thing with Cher
so cancelling shows and wasting thousands of dollars that fans paid to see her is what society needs? wow you guys really need to stop[ worshipping these celebrities
PERIODDD
that’s NOT what’s happening here but go off
ppl hate her cuz shes right
Literallyyyy
100% truth
And bc she actually fights bs instead of acting like a doormat to the public
I saw a tweet a little bit ago saying that chapel roan’s “rudeness” as so many articles have lovingly (/sar) put it, is what you get when a popstar finds quick success and the industry hasn’t had time to break them down as a person yet to where they feel like they just have to accept and endure any horrible treatment they get because “you’ve always wanted to be a pop star, so now we get to treat you like one (because ppl think celebs aren’t real ppl with human emotions and feelings?😭)”
No cause literally why should she ENDORSE someone? Think for yourself, she's right. She shouldn't be walking propaganda. There are problems on both sides and if you think that liberals don't have problems idk why you think we aren't human-
i will always stand by a fellow lesbian who rides for lesbian values idgaf
This is not a scary title...
Also, its completely valid to say "I have issues with how both sides are dealing with the genocide in Palestine and neither have treated trans people right, but Harris' side is doing slightly better so my hand is being forced into that decision."
A) it says I vote
B) it says I don't endorse Harris but I acknowledge my decision to vote for her in light of the other option
have fun voting in the most lethal military, as if current wars arent enough. you guys are so lost it hurts, you have the power to vote both these idiotic parties out of office yet youre stuck on the most basic basic issues that shouldve been resolved decades ago. theyre walking you to the slaughterhouse and yall kindly oblige because they give you crumbs of 'rights' foh. my country is burning and all you guys are just busy arguing over 'lesser of two evils'
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Harris's side is the one who started the genocide and she also said she'd support Israel unwaveringly
If you really wanted to "push her left" or "change the system" you'd vote 3rd party. If you're gonna vote for genocide just don't yap about it
@@zordorfeI think with how our system is set up, it's nearly impossible for a third party to even win
everything she’s saying is so normal this sucks
it's the context that matters. She didn't say anything wrong but with context, it is uneccesarry
People just love to twist things
I honestly think people are being too hard on her. Like damn- We ain’t no better
Yeah. And I don’t see how what she said about both sides having issues is wrong, did not agree with some of the takes DiAngelo had in this video tbh. He seems politically biased against and for certain sides. Both the left and right have been known to display extremist tendencies. That’s just a fact of life as is with all politics. I don’t think she said anything wrong tbh, but people will always find something to dislike no matter what she says.
@@Candela115 Let's not forget she's relatively new to being a celebrity and has yet to work on her PR. Have some grace.
chappell is a breath of fresh air in a industry so coward where most of the biggests names in the house are afraid to criticize their oh so precious politicians and i dont know. use their power and influence to do good outside of their country because for them, the world outside of the us and our struggles caused by their nation does not matter at all. she fights for her people but never forgets that there are others like them from across the world. she's the closest our current main stream scenario has to someone like sinnead o'connor and i love and respect her so much more than other bigger artists that i listen to even more then her. i dont know what the future holds for her but no matter what she does, i will support her decisions. chappells only flaw is being too good for this insdustry
Love that comment, couldn't agree more. In light of Kris Kristoffersons recent death Sinéads heroic fight to not give up her integrity and what she believed in and wanted to fight for is being brought up again and it is sad to see that we still can't deal with a woman speaking her truth on her own terms and with her own words, as non-pr-aprooved as they might be. I totally agree with D'Angelos worry that it won't be sustainable and that for her mental health she might be pushed to take a step back. However if she does not want to pr-train and filter her words than that to me is the strongest stance a person in the public eye can take. It's an us-problem, we as the audience need to learn to listen to all the information to not misunderstand, judge and cancel too quickly. I don't agree that it is always the responsibility of the communicator to mold your information into something everyone out there will be able not to misunderstand.
Chappel’s statement was not miscommunicated, she was clear and right. We have a problem of disingenuous journalism, a lack of critical thinking and very angry, reactionary responses to everything now
“Both sides have done wrong” should never have been controversial and it just goes to show how bad two party tribalism has gotten
Just because the democrats aren’t extreme in certain areas like women’s reproductive rights doesn’t mean they haven’t endorsed and funded a genocide and allowed dehumanising immigration policies to name two, those qualify as wrongs to me
Na, I think that criticizing a side you support is just as valuable if not more valuable than criticizing the side you dislike.
Your political candidates are more likely to carry out the will of the people if they feel pressure to do so. Otherwise the democratic party will just continue to support Israel bombing Lebanon and Palestine. Among other heinous takes (ei Kamala's weird anti immigrant obsession).
That being said you should condemn almost everything the alt-right stands for of course, but after you make that clear, asking for better leftist representation is essential. Especially before an election.
Finally someone with a brain
Yes this!
@@prodbywadda exactly this. With our democracy on the line, she should be CRYSTAL CLEAR about these things.
I saw the clips of her speaking in a defranco episode and she DID sound like she was saying 'both sides'... We can stand against fascism and still be critical of our chosen leaders without that kind of call back rhetoric. It was a huge fumble on her part, since apparently that's not what she intended.
hard agree
the idea that you should "save it for later" is exactly why we have this problem every election cycle and i believe this honesty will actually get more people to vote for democrats
Imagine if people didnt criticize Biden after the debate, as many democrats ask them too, we will still be stuck with him.
A lot of comments are putting it more articulately than I ever could, but I still wanna throw in a couple cents if only for the alogirthm- I think a big piece D'Angelo is missing here is that probably the biggest sticking point a lot of people have against Kamala is her refusal to acknowledge/effective acceptance of the genocide in Palestine, and its a pretty MASSIVE sticking point cause, well, turns out we don't like our potential leaders being basically complicit in the mass murder of innocent people.
Chappell's message, however poorly delivered it may have been, of 'it sucks, she's still awful for this, I'm voting for her anyway cause she's less bad but I don't have to be happy about it' is a very grounded and realistic take that can help a lot of people get over that same hurdle of actually voting for Kamala, and a reminder that we need to hold her feet to the fire once she's in. She may be a woman of color and not an out and out fascist, but she's also still a cop that all but endorses a literal genocide, even if she's the best we have.
To my fellow students in the comments, if you want some supplementary -reading- watching material, F.D Signifier's most recent vid at time of writing Black Cops Won't Save Us discusses a similar message more articulately and from a black perspective, highly recommend giving it a watch
@@LordoftheThings327 amazingly well put, I think this is exactly what this video is missing.
VP Harris is not cop and she has called for a ceasefire and a the need for a Palestinian nation. She doesn't have the power to stop armaments as the VP. No matter who wins Chappell Roan will still be a privileged white woman. I am a disabled Black immigrant and my life could change drastically if Trump wins. I am old enough to remember the decades long anti-apartheid movement. White people didn't drop out of politics when both parties refused to honor the South African Apartheid boycott. The protesters were called communists and supporters of terrorism by both Democrats and Republicans. Black people around the world kept going and we helped end apartheid.
Exactly, he made a video that kinda placed him in the same camp of people he's making the video about... Misunderstanding her statements.
harris was not a cop. she was a prosecutor. please fact check before you post misinformation.
I don't think DAngelo is missing the fact that Kamala is not a perfect candidate.
Also "from a Black perspective" like DAngelo here ain't black.
The issue with Chapell's first message is very clearly articulated by DAngelo in fact. If your brain is working and you follow politics I think there are zero reasons not to get it, except for emotional ones.
When you get emotional, your brain just starts rationalizing the best way possible to believe in the thing you want to believe in, and his take of being both pro and anti Chapell at different times is honestly the best one could achieve.
i can't really compare taylor swift to chappell tbh. taylor is known for only saying things that will benefit her, making moves only when it helps her. chappell speaks her shit despite how it reflects on her. taylor won't actively advocate for anything "risky" to her brand. chappell is out here advocating for palestine and trans rights. i also think it's wrong to endorse a candidate blindly without telling people there will be repercussions, esp in this case with an on going genocide being promised to be continued by both sides. taylor swift is also a billionaire and chappell is a rising star who hasnt even hit close to being a billionaire. like i get ur point, but ur just comparing an apple to an orange rn. a different celebrity might've been better
yeah, taylor is just the epitome of white corporate feminism and only participates in "activism" when it personally benefits her. ex: dating a racist predator, saying nothing about palestine, Being A Billionaire, having an insane carbon footprint, etc.
Speaking up has never helped Taylor---it actually puts her and her fans in danger due to the rabid hate she gets.
@@sherriromas5871 that’s blatantly not even true
@@sherriromas5871the “hate” Taylor Swift gets is incomparable to the harassment, misogyny, racism, and homophobia spread by her fans “in defense” of her.
@@parkerisles7256the hate taylor swift gets is literal t3rr0r1sts planning to b0mb her concerts and people murd3r1ng seven year olds in dance classes. I obviously don’t condone any harassment from
Swifties but you can’t be serious about that statement
I think this video really misses the mark. I have family in Lebanon right now. I could get a call that they are dead any day now. I, and all of the Lebanese and Palestinian community, do not have time to “wait for Kamala to get elected to criticize her.” we have always seen our families and friends dying at the hands of the United States, regardless of whether Democrats or Republicans get elected. We have to use whatever “democratic” leverage we have to stop this, especially during elections. I’m really grateful that Chappell took a stance against what feels like a gross gen-z celebrity pandering from the Harris campaign. Charli XCX, Taylor Swift, and Billie EILISH have all endorsed Kamala while saying little to nothing about Palestine.
Also, I am not convinced that Taylor Swift does not have genocidal intentions. She has said absolutely nothing about Palestine, and it’s been almost a year. She still showed her documentary in Israel, despite pressures on her to boycott any shows, films, or performances in Israel. Her dad also is a founder of the Swift Group at Merrill Lynch, which greatly benefits from genocide in Israel.
D’Angelo, I feel like you’re sidestepping Palestine a lot when talking about Chappell’s statements. I can see what you mean about having better PR and her statements being misinterpreted. But I think the video doesn’t acknowledge the main Palestinians/Lebanese in this country and around the world who feel equally screwed and will have to keep fighting regardless of the election outcome. And I’m grateful Chappell Roan made an attempt to acknowledge that.
Everything you said is right on point. I'm so sorry you're going through this, I hope your family is safe. Love from Lebanon.
@@trip2venus420 thank you, love to you too ❤️
this!! im disappointed that these weren't brought up in the video.. i hope your family is safe
you put this perfectly! at times I honestly felt like D’Angelo was being purposely obtuse, especially when neglecting to mention why chappell said that both sides have problems and saying people who didn’t want to vote for Harris are centrists. i’m so sorry that you and your family are going through that, and i hope they get safety and justice soon
So, what exactly do you want the US government to do regarding Israel? How would you solve the conflict?
chappell roan does more than any of the other pop stars considering her strong support for queer people and palestinians. love her down.
edit: people need to start understanding that when i say "pop stars" i mean artists that create pop music and are currently very big. also, people mentioning britney, madonna or possibly even lady gaga need to realize that i specifically said PALESTINIANS as well because there is STILL an ongoing genocide happening. i cannot believe how quickly some of the commenters like to dismiss that part.
Bro wtf are you smoking? Did you forget brittney? Lady gaga? Madonna? They havd done more then her by 1000x
This is false. How is she doing "more" than other pop stars? She's made a couple statements on the topic, and now she's getting credit for doing "more" than other popstars? When other artists like Kehlani, Macklemore, Dua Lipa, etc are not only vocal on those exact same topics, but send profits they earn specifically toward those causes, pushing against their own labels to do so, putting their money on the line to support those causes, etc. Chappell doesn't deserve all this vitriol, but don't give her more credit than she deserves.
she also phrases things badly and gets mad when people misunderstand a point she didn’t make clearly due to her stress. both can be true.
these comments are giving “im queer so i can’t do anything wrong”
@@MrDrManPersonI’m a huuuge Britney and Gaga fan and they aren’t talking about Palestine at all 😞
@@eauxkei702 macklemore could be described as a pop star though i wouldn’t categorize him as such considering he’s a rapper, kehlani has definitely said much more than chappell but she is not even remotely as popular as her atm and dua lipa has made good statements. my comment might have been a bit generalizing but it is not inaccurate. who other than dua of the big popstars is as vocal as chappell? no one as far as i know.
I agree with her but her messaging definitely could’ve been better than it was so I agree with the both of y’all (you and Chappell).
she was just very direct. why can't she deliver her opinions in a way that's authentic to her? why is it on her to make everything as digestible as possible to as many people as possible? it's not.
@@neru6686I would say if she wants to be direct, make one direct statement that's thought out. I love Chappell's music and agree with her, but piecemeal tiktoks clarifying past statements do not work and muddy the waters.
@@emily_8687tiktoks are just an insane way of responding to anything goddamn just write text
@@neru6686If she was direct and what she wanted to say was clearly communicated then she wouldn’t have had to had make three videos on it.
Ngl, as an non-usa (I'm argentinian) viewer nor a Chappell Roan fan, i don't get why she was wrong in this situation. Both sides are shit. Of course you shouldn't vote Trump (Had to vote the least shitty the same for my country last year and it sadly didn't win, I fucking hate my current president), but people just seem to not like that she calls out Kamala, or the democrats (I can not believe people really call or relate democrats to the left) Kind of shows some people's colors.
"She has an efect on people" and that's why she choose to say that we should inform ourselves. If people can't get that, it's not her fault. Y'all wouldn't last a day in other music genres lmao.
ya vamos a salir de esta hermana
It's not what she said, it's the timing. Not everyone can see it like we understand it. Almost half of my country voted for a conman. We may be rich as a country but sadly poorly educated. If this goes wrong, you could witness the downfall of America. It is that serious. Look at some of these comments. Some are saying she's right maybe we should vote for a third party. That one vote lost, can cost us everything.
@@ethansin Then blame the candidate, why are you protecting them like their policies are immutable?
ugh i’m really sincerely sorry about milei, i hope he doesn’t do too much damage before you can get him out
Americans describing the democrats as leftists is so embarrassing, like they’re centrists at best and centre right in most other western countries. It seems funny that in a video banging on about communication to just constantly misuse words you know that have meaning.
This! Louder in for the people in the back, for real.
Agreed
criticizing an american for talking about american politics in american terms is not the take you think it is
and this is coming from an actual leftist
I'm not waiting for the election to criticize the government over Palestine
Exactly… she’s allowed to do some “both sides”. She is clear that she supports women and queer rights, and she’s “both sides-ing” about GENOCIDE not queer lives 😅
“Wait until after the election for nuance” ?????? Bro what😂 Deangelo’s usually a smart guy but geez this was hard to watch
@@emmajoy1752 also "I'm not tone policing but you better shut up until a less bad genocider is in the oval office" incredible stuff here
thats not the point
Especially when Kamala is in part responsible for the billions of dollars and munitions being sent to israel currently. I don't want my tax dollars to go towards genociding Palestinians on their native land or massacring people in Lebanon. It's disgusting
It's difficult. She's right, and I think everyone who DOES use critical thinking skills knows that. However, most people are stupid. I don't mean that in a "ha ha" way.
The vast majority of people have zero media literacy, have no concept of nuance, and don't know enough about politics to see past "good vs evil". This is systemic and intentional. I'm not dunking on humanity... but it's the reality we live in. It SUCKS seeing someone passionate and intelligent trying to make things better, but getting constant pushback because people love to be mad.
The internet is just a void for everyone to scream their frustrations into, and usually manifests as ripping apart idealistic young people, primarily women.
The system is to blame. The people waiting around with torches and pitchforks are to blame. The media's sensationalized headlines to get their piece of the views pie is to blame.
Chappell Roan is NOT to blame.
i mean chappell is right, i don't understand what's so wrong to call out the "left" (is in quotes because any other person outside the us can see that democrats are just a diet flavor of right politics) like c'mon the current goverment is supporting 100% the awful things happening in gaza, but because it isn't happening to usonians, the so called usonians leftists won't care... it's almost comical how the us have to choose between alt right and right (who call themselves left)
Exactly
Yep
usonian? sorry, i have literally never seen anyone use that term before
Usonian?? 😭💀
@@basedokadaizo it's simple, people from the us aren't "americans" as a nationality term, america is a continent with a lot of different countries.
it's very clear to me when someone hasn't really taken the time to know what chappell is about. her career won't end over this, if she loses popularity, it's from people she doesn't want in her fandom. Even if things were to go real bad, she has stated that she's more than willing to step off the music scene, she has done it before, she can do it again.
she doesn't need to 'clarify' because she has explained over and over what she stands for. and like you said yourself, she can repeat everytime but some people just don't care.
also saying to not criticize kamala and the democratic party before the election it's crazyyy, it's important to speak of it right now. specially when it's resulting in a GENOCIDE
Compartmentalizing criticism of a candidate is so anti-democratic though. We can and should criticize Kamala now too. If she is too vulnerable to these criticisms then maybe she should address them by improving her platform.
Thank you! There won't be any incentive for Kamala to make concessions to us after she's elected. If anything, *_now_* is the time for criticism, not after.
You don't have to think Kamala is perfect or above criticism to think "both sides are equally bad" is a dumb statement. You're creating a false dichotomy.
This, I don't understand this weird time we are in now that you can't criticize the party you support, we want them to know our concerns before they are in office.
@@FallingIn2TheVoid no one said both sides are equally bad, she said there are problems on both sides, which is just a fact. There are more problems on one side but still problems on the other
Not many people using this type of thinking realize that criticism of Kamala has a direct effect on whether or not the most important demographics of people who are needed to get her in office vote for her or even vote at all. You don’t have to agree on every policy that Kamala has to make sure that the greater evil is avoided. I agree that there are many criticisms to have about Kamala’s policies etc and those will be important to address, but the other side of that coin leads directly to immediate harm for more people as D’Angelo pointed out in the video. Is criticism of Kamala important? Yes, but so is making sure that fascism doesn’t accelerate to the point of having no democracy. The population of the United States is not equipped for a revolution and if fascism gets us there quicker that’s great but in the mean time you are contributing to the destruction of civilization. Though I suppose that will come for the country either way so honestly however you justify using your vote or not is something that you have to sleep with at night. I personally will be able to hold these beliefs in tension so that my friends and loved ones don’t get hurt any quicker than they have to.
i feel for chappell because like you said, she's really not even saying anything wrong, but it clearly really bothers her when shes misunderstood and.......... this is the internet and shes a huge popstar so shes GOING to be misunderstood. i hope she just gets offline so she doesn't completely lose her mind tbh. people are always going to take the things she says in bad faith
i feel so bad because she recently got diagnosed with depression too .. she needs to go offline and heal
She needs a break from social media
She has such a strong way of speaking and doesn't back down, i genuinely hope she uses this as a stepping stool and doesn't let it drag her down :(
tbh i would’ve agreed with this video a lot more a couple months ago… but ever since Kamala started emphasizing her plans to build the “most lethal military” to help Israel “defend itself” over and over, I see Chappell’s takes as far less frustrating than I would’ve at the start of Kamala’s candidacy. With the developments in Gaza i can see why many of us now struggle to view the right as WAY worse than the left- not because conservatives aren’t that bad, but because democrats kind of ARE. her hesitation to endorse Kamala sounds more like leftism than centrism to me, and i think it has more to do with Harris’ faults, not an indifference about Trump winning. but i do agree that her PR team neeeeds to save her
to put it simply, it’s not that we’re gravitating away from Kamala, but that she has slowly been gravitating away from us. it feels like her statements pander more to the right/center every day and it’s getting harder and harder to WANT to vote for her
Exactly. Kamala is becoming more conservative by the day and we as democrats are just supposed to keep our mouth shut about it until the election! F THAT!!!
She knows America's support for Israel is unwavering so she's leaning into it as much as she can get away with
True and legit. The dems are DOING THE GENOCIDE and libs will go ok but trump is worse. Like. Your camp is doing a genocide how am i the villain for refusing to vote for it
But what are Trump's plans for Isreal and Palestine?
I feel like people just wanted her to say that "Kamala is part of the Pink Pony Club" or something like that since no one wants to think critically anymore.
pokemon go to the pink pony club
People are calling the title clickbait when it's really a meta-commentary on the fact that people got mad at Chappell because they read an out-of-context headline quote and never actually watched or read her statements.
watched her statements. she doubled down and made even more stupid comments I think she just need to log off. Canceling shows last minute because of this "backlash" when her fans spent thousands of dollars to see her is so disrespectful and not a good move that's what worshiping celebrities gets us she's acting like a spoiled brat we were all rooting for her what a disappointment
@@nanomiaone day a performer is gonna blow their brains out on stage and for Some reason people like you will be surprised at this outcome
@@hang5797ok chill damn
@@hang5797you are right. you’re not even being dramatic. amy winehouse was booed off stage when she was clearly struggling.
@@hang5797 emotional manipulation on ur part. like wtf lol
Couldn't disagree more. We're in a time where we need to be voting for the best worst option, sure. And that best worst option also deserves every piece of criticism it receives. Don't jump on Chappell like she endorsed fascism by daring to question democratic policy at the exact time democratic policy is begging us to criticize it (that's what an election is, guys).
She's also completely correct in saying there's a distinction between voting and endorsing. I think most Kamala voters are not additionally endorsing her. At the end of the day, this is just a continuation of Chappell's fight to oppose our concept of fame. She doesn't WANT her opinion on the presidential race to matter.
Additionally, the "she didn't say exactly what she meant so everyone is allowed to dissect it and change it around to fit their own narrative" is a straight up right wing tactic that you've just decided is part of society.
"The liberals don't just want us to vote for Kamala, they want us to be as excited for her as they are"
They are so excited for the idea of a black woman president and just fully ignoring (or supporting!!!) how openly right wing she is. Like honestly Trumps "We gotta get her a MAGA hat" hits too close to home because, yeah? She's fully terrifying. So yeah vote because we can't let Trump win but denying people the ability to even complain about it as they drop their ballot in the box? That's bullshit. "Leave it till after the election" Oh yeah D'Angelo? when the news cycle is moved on? When politicians are comfy in their seats and no longer need to worry about what the people care about until the next big thing pops up to distract everyone? At very best that's completely naieve, and then the gall to treat it like this is something he's been enlightened to with age? Let people vote for Kamala but let them make it well and clear how bad of a choice it is and maybe, just maybe, the dems will see how fucking much they have alienated anyone who actually cares about humans lives. Absolutely awful stuff.
How did you guys watch this video and see it as D'Angelo attacking Chappell for not endorsing kamala. All he is saying is she needs to get better a media literacy and actually communicate her points better so she doesn't have to make these videos trying to explain herself.
@@himothanielit’s something that happens often. and i don’t think it’s anything politically inclined to be honest both sides do it. just that the right is so much more loud about it. it’s like a basic principle in PR and communications that if a statement is vague anyone can take it how they want to and twist it with bad or good intentions. because at the end of the day people can’t read minds of each other so sometimes these vague statements lead to miscommunication. i don’t think danjelo meant it as a good thing? he just stated that it happens if you aren’t too careful.
Did you even watch the video??
0:21 ill tell you what makes her so easy to criticize: she is an opinionated lesbian. Nothing more nothing less
@@mindfulnessnshitI thought you said real talk tuah
I think pro-Israel people don’t like her either, lesbian or not
I simply said “pro-Israel people don’t like her either, lesbian or not”. Who deleted my comment?! It’s not like I’m pro-Israel myself!
That's literally the same argument used by canceled conservatives.
@@maimee1 what?
Respectfully, I am very tired of hearing people push active problems to the side to rally for their team to win the election. The time for pushing the issues we want secured IS now, because there's nothing for the parties to lose after they win the election.
But wouldn't Kamala want to get reelected? There's gonna be nothing to lose for Trump for sure. He can only win if he becomes president again.
is it a fantasy to want a non-genocidal option? is that something that moral people should compartmentalize?
exactly. i am not. i’m voting third party-we have to make the change at some point and that point is now.
Yes. Currently as we stand, it's going to be Donald or Kamala. Period. A 3rd party candidate cannot win. It's impossible because they will not be on every ballot come election time. So, numerically, it will be either a D or R who is going to win. Should it be that way? No. Is it reality? Yes. So, people should galvanize and do something about it or just not complain if they're going to be complicit. Whether by not voting at all, by not getting involved in local politics/elections and only waiting for the presidential election every 4 yrs. Change happens from the ground up, not the other way around. But most people vote for a president and think their job is done, and then are upset when we get to the situation that we are now. It didn't happen over night. People worked to meticulously for years to get us to this place. So, we need to do the same, staying active and vigilant.
@@tatapulido4609people like you are the reason Trump won in 2016. I'm saying this as someone who voted third party in 2020. It's not going to fucking happen until we change our voting system and abolish the electoral college. You're not only damning us all but you're going to be the reason that Palestine gets wiped off the face of the earth if Donald "Netanyahu's bestie and namesake of a West Bank settlement" Trump wins.
@@tatapulido4609im voting third party too.
@@tatapulido4609you’re literally voting for Trump if you vote 3rd party. We’ve learned this many times over, namely in 2016. Do what you need to do, but maybe you should consider not just throwing your vote away this election cycle. There is ZERO statistical probability for anyone to win besides Harris or Trump. Maybe we stand up for something else in 2028, but this time, we should consider just making sure we keep our democracy in tact so that we CAN move forward and CAN fight for something better next time. Trump and Vance will move us backwards and all you’ll be doing is fighting to get back to where we are right now. Trump is an even bigger Netanyahu fan than Biden/Harris. Our government has this weird relationship with Israel and they are part of the UN, so it’s not an easy situation. Best of luck to you.
I’m usually in agreement on most of your videos but this one is an absolute miss for me. She completely valid in her frustration and shouldn’t have to baby the masses this severely just to be understood. I’m not even a fan but it’s very obvious of what her intentions and what she was trying to convey. Maybe we should start holding the public to higher standards and expect them to use their brains more instead of putting the blame on celebrities or anyone for not formulating a super professional PR response.
Also I’m voting democrat, but not because I think they’re better than republicans but because at the very least voting them stalls the worst of the legislations BOTH are trying to push. Kamala is not some saint to save us, she’s the civil servant I’m going to hold accountable for all the things she says she stands for.
D'Angelo agrees with all this though. He said she can be angry but still communicate in a way where her words wouldn't be misconstrued. He talked about how yes, the audience should have those critical thinking abilities, but they don't; so it's better to be very clear with your words. He acknowledges that both sides are bad, but that saying "both sides are bad" and leaving it at that sounds like a centrist take even though its clear that's not what she was going for if you read her interview.
Edit: The only thing I disagree with so far (I'm only halfway through the video) is the part where he said vote first and criticize later.
These comments are hilarious. Chappel does not need your defense, she isn't a child. She needs better PR.
It is a tragedy that we cannot be nuanced in politics anymore. “Nuance is counterproductive when certain things are black and white” - yes, but politics is NEVER black and white. Never. Criticism of political parties is crucial for democracy, and that includes when one is much, much worse than the other.
We CAN have both. Don’t convince yourself that it’s not possible.
This is one of the few videos I have to disagree with
This whole video to me personally comes off as victim-blamey to Chappell for sharing her frustration for the ongoing genocide. She and everyone else apposed is absolutely allowed to be critical, there is no "right time." Dancing around the main issue (the reason this all started up) was due to the fact that kamala supports the illegal apartheid committing massacres and is actively funding it, she is absolutely right in what she said and how she handled it because any other way she would be indirectly endorsing genocide. She's right in her wording, one side may be better but both sides will still commit genocide and to simply tell her to cease any critique because of the election coming up is exactly why these issues are never going anywhere, why these issues are ignored. What she did was stand on her morals. It really isn't HER fault such a clear message of frustration on the Democratic party got so misconstrued she should be allowed to voice her frustration and anger without any drawback on a genocide. Your videos are usually well put and informed but this one might just be a miss because if YOU were aware the same party you would ENDORSE was committing a genocide, a Holocaust to put it in perspective would YOU still feel comfortable doing so? Telling people to vote is one thing endorsing a canidate hopping on trends and acting like everything is alright is another and I wish you'd have pointed that out instead of, I feel suggesting she should've taken a route similar to what Taylor Swift did.
exactly, i felt the same and it disappointed me tremendously since he's usually very dedicated to seeing the nuance
@@nia4258 exactly this! it felt way different than the usual I don't know what shifted but the disappointment I felt was tremendous
Agreed!
right like i feel like he's dancing around the issue of palestine so much
I think y'all are just parasocial. Can't see the same reaction if was T Swift.
I understand the PR angle of "she needs to communicate better because people don't think critically" but I feel as though it's been painted as if it's her responsibility that they *don't*. She's been outspoken about supporting Palestine, queer rights and trans rights etc. It's not her fault that they've misconstrued every sentence out of her mouth, even when she *is* clear
So uhhhh, why can't people use their own brains to decide who to vote for? Why do y'all need a celebrity endorsement? The celebrity has their own reasons for endorsing a candidate, that may or may not align with your own needs.
How tf are people expecting celebrities to brain for them, and for that to go over well 🤦🏾♀️
I think, by and large, it's less about needing a celebrity to "decide who to vote for" and more a parasocial thing. People both *want* to know that someone they feel a connection to shares their views on things. You see that a lot especially with streamers and TH-camrs where the parasociality is much, much higher. But, it's also a knock-on effect where the hope is that endorsers will bring *their* supporters/fans with them in their vote. That, for instance, is why Swift's endorsement was big news for a minute there: because the expectation is that Swifties will at least reconsider going against their idol.
Is it still weird? Absolutely. But, I don't think it's an abdication of "thinking" so much as a glitch in how we're wired socially that mass media exploits.
Look around, we have people voting for Trump and Jill stein. Some people really need it spelled out as to who they need to vote for and why
Because I think sometimes we overestimate the state of critical thinking, common sense and public education, sadly, we need celebs and important people to spell out with sticks and stones who to vote for.
We need to remember that education and subsequently critical thinking is a privilege at the end of the day and people sometimes need to be told who will be a better choice on the throne. This is exactly why the Right is winning so much ground, they know this and bet on it. That's how they historically have influenced the working class, just look at how the Nazi Party gained ground in Germany when they first started to recruit.
i’m gonna be so honest, if anyone took her video as “both siding” you are not a leftist, you are a liberal or conservative 😭 this is not a new talking point, many leftists online get this same flack for making the same points (ie hasan piker). like she was pretty straightforward; the binary voting system is corrupt, voting is still important, vote blue no matter who is fear mongering, and most importantly which no one is talking about, free palestine!!! nothing about this stance screams centrism i’m so sorry.
literally the part calling people who dont want to vote for kamala centrists was so out of touch
@@lexiigom I was thinking the exact same thing thing. Of course Chappell isn’t a centrist. It’s not fair to make that argument when her reasons for endorsement are because she if further left than either of the main US political parties.
Criticising the Democratic Party should not be seen as controversial just because the Republicans are worse. That’s how you become complacent in politics, which leads to apathy and thus less people voting.
Yeah it's very much a liberal take
100%
It's like... I'm not from the US, but my country also has two main parties. One is far right and one is standard liberal bullsh*t. But we still have some smaller leftie parties and that's who I vote for. Still, most of (especially middle-aged or older) people will assume that if you're against one of the main ones, you're pro the other. Like no dude, they both suck.
Respectfully D’Angelo this is the first video of yours that I really don’t agree with and honestly kinda rubbed me the wrong way. The fact is that while Harris may not be transphobic, racist, and misogynistic like Trump is, she is still part of a government that is currently funding a genocide. It doesn’t sit right to talk about the people whose lives would be at risk under a Trump government without also talking about the people who are currently dying thanks to the genocide being funded by the Biden/Harris administration. And I say this as someone who is trans and disabled person who could need abortion care at some point. Im very cognizant of the fact that my life would be at risk under another Trump administration, but at least I and others like me get the option to vote for someone who values my existence. The same cannot be said of the people currently being killed in Palestine. At the end of the day I will vote for Harris because I understand that we live in a 2 party system and we only have 2 options. But when the two options are either 1.) genocide and 2.) genocide plus transphobia, racism, and abortion bans, I think it’s more than fair for Chappell to say “there’s problems on both sides” and to say that she will not endorse Harris.
I think it's still important to criticize candidates while they're running to hope that they run on better positions. Obviously Kamala is better than trump, but 2020 Kamala campaigning for medicare for all was better than 2024 Kamala who is currently sending weapons and billions of dollars to israel. It's hard to suck it up and vote for someone who shuts down Palestinian protestors and who's campaign refuses to even mention trans people at the DNC. It's hard to vote for someone who's proudly building the wall that trump campaigned for in 2016 and yet, I'm being forced to so we can at least have another 4 years before democrats are campaigning for mass deportations in 2028. The frustration is palpable and very understandable.
@@LovelyLori193 sending weapons to israel, shaking hands with a war criminal, in 2020 saying she’s for healthcare for all, 2024 saying she’s for private health care, in 2020 saying she’s unquestionably in favor of banning fracking, 2024 she firmly says she will not ban fracking then goes on to brag that she in fact was the tie-breaking vote on the inflation reduction act which opened new leases for fracking, in 2020 said she was against criminalizing undocumented people, in 2024 she said she supports a border security bill that was, in her own words, drafted up by some of the most conservative members of the U.S. senate and congress, she’s the largest recipient of AIPAC money, she was a cop and a prosecutor that fought to keep nonviolent criminals locked up for prison labor, the list goes on. the cognitive dissonance of the “Kamala is brat” party is revolting, i don’t want to believe people are this dumb.
i mean kamala outwardly encourages isreal and seems to hold zero remorse for the people of Palestine, i can understand why even tho she has so many better policies than trump chappell wouldnt wanna put her name behind that
THANK YOU!
Also Kamala just did a speech where she promised to move Democrat immigration policy even further right and of course all the Kamala is brat folks just pretended she didn’t say that.
Literally!!
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EXACTLY THISSSSS
The whole idea that her saying both sides are bad, and she needs to have a public flogging because of this is terrible. Yeah one is worse than the other, but it's so obvious that the lesbian who says trans rights are important, free Palestine, talks about her love for drag queens, and says to also vote in local elections. Obviously isn't going to say they're both the exact same, it's implied she believes one is worse than the other. The article even points out prior to that statement about her left leaning ideology. At this point anything that is said can be misconstrued into something else, or someone else will say "Well what about this? I don't see you talking about this particular issue which means you're anti it." Anything and everything will be used no matter how clear and concise, or unclear a situation or words are.
Sorry but as an Arab, claiming that what Chappell said about both sides is irresponsible is tone deaf and something only someone so incredibly privileged can say. The democrats are facilitating a G-word (We cant even say the word to describe what is happening to us) but people are not allowed to point out that they are abysmal and eviI too? No actually, republicans arent "so much worse" than democrats, they are only marginally worse. Its absolutely fair for her to say both sides have problems.
this take I 100% agree w/, although I’d say that both sides are each bad in their own right instead of comparing them to one another
So, trying to eradicate democracy is "only marginally worse" ? At the moment the Republican candidate is a guy who adores dictators because he wants to be one himself. On top of that he's pretty much openly sexist, racist and anti-science - I thought we all knew that by now?
DANGELO WDYM WDYM THIS FRIGHTENS ME WDYMMMM
Maybe watch it? Then formulate an opinion.
Take a breath and watch the video little one
Don’t piss me off.
No views hello??
Since when have I been the first one to class?? Cmon guys he’s taking attendance, we need to do better if we wanna graduate 😔
😂😂😂
Doesn't mean there's no views. Not how TH-cam works
sorry i got here running, can i borrow your notes?
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Honestly WHY we continue to ask celebrities for their political opinion. They aren't experts in the field
Plus they sometimes aren’t trained public speakers so why do we expect them to say every point perfectly.
Validation, I guess, for liking our respective favorite celebrities.
Because for some reason, a lot of people require all entertainers they enjoy to share the exact same opinions and beliefs as they do or they can't cope with reality.
Especially because if we push them, they could just as easily come out and endorse Trump lmfao. And then everyone will be mad and say they should have kept quiet. I prefer to be blissfully unaware of celebrity political opinions and just decide based on my own research.
There is no "field" of politics. It affects everyone to some extent or another.
Hi D’Angelo! I am a long time watcher and a big fan. I don’t often comment because I don’t often find myself disagreeing with you or feeling the need to add to any discourse, however I do actually find myself disagreeing with you on this one.
I am prefacing my comment to note that I am a LEFTIST (AKA not a liberal). There are actually many many leftists who are not happy about Kamala. You don’t have to be a “centrist” to be anti-Democratic party. Leftists punch to the right and if Democrats want to stop being hit, they need to move out of the way! Leftists do not want Trump of COURSE but please do not be so naive to think that Kamala or Democrats actually are helping people. They are literally facilitating a genocide RIGHT NOW. They are basically identical to Republicans on immigration!
I understand, to a degree, what you’re saying about needing to consider how your words might be interpreted and that she could benefit from a PR team, but keep in mind she was a very small artist until VERY recently. That, plus I do think I am one of those people who disagrees with the notion that clear communication is solely dependent on the speaker. I understand she is not interacting on a personal level, but I know how EXHAUSTING it is to try to consider every possible way someone can misinterpret you as an autistic person. Being in therapy, I’ve learned that you cannot control how other people choose to interpret your words and actions. Of course you should try your best to convey a clear message, but I wholly believe how someone interprets something is more of a reflection of them than of the speaker. With all that in mind, are the communication dynamics different on a level as large as Chappell’s? Well yes! But I think it is a breath of fresh air for someone to authentically communicate their thoughts without the PR filter honestly. Let people be mad!! These types of people will never give anyone grace anyways, so why would you want to constantly be walking on eggshells within your own fanbase? Our society is unhealthy but it doesn’t mean we should bend ourselves to their unhealthy level. Obviously I am not necessarily against a PR team either but that is just my take.
I’m sorry that I couldn’t finish the video but I want you to know that I am still a big fan. I hope you will take the time to read my comment . I would be very open to discussing my thoughts more with you if you’re interested. Being such a nuanced topic, it can be hard to write all my thoughts in a comment section.
1000% spot on with this one.
wow i can't believe this is the issue where i disagree with you. waiting for the end of the election cycle to voice out your discontent with the "lesser of two evils" side is delusional. i've seen this same argument be made in 2020 and look what we have now, the democrats have moved even further to the right. and thanks to that my homeland has been bombed to smithereens. Chappell is a breath of fresh air, seeing someone with an actual backbone for once is very refreshing and leaves me hopeful. additionally, i think all of this uproar is caused by her pro-palestine stance, she's one of the biggest stars who's been quite vocal about her opposition to the genocide, so it's no wonder they're attempting a character assassination on her. I understand your points regarding communication but to declare her both sides statement as somehow problematic is a deflection bc the democrats aren't on disagreement with many of MAGAs ideologies, take Palestine and immigration for example. the only card you have now to push Harris towards action is the election, other than that, you really have nothing to hold over her head. lastly, i need ppl to stop treating our genocide as some minor issue to be discussed later. we're being annihilated on live television with american dollars. when is Arab blood gonna mean something? this is disappointing and infuriating. and somehow amidst this abyss, we're being told not to cause disturbance to the hitler in cheif bc apparently some people still think genocide isn't a deal breaker. there're no "lesser of two evils", America is the bringer of death to us, who cares if the one greenlighting genocide is an ally or not? none of us is free until we're all free.
Edit: also, using TS as example is also far removed from leftist spaces bc we've spent months urging her to address Palestine considering her massive influence, so her statement of endorsement was just another slap in the face. additionally, i don't think she's one to take political opinions from considering she doesn't go deeper than meaningless statements while still associating with trumpers, racists, Zionists and contributes to the death of our planet so seriously huh?
THIS
I cannot believe how badly he missed the mark this whole video
I don't even wanna watch this video. I already know it'd going to piss me off. "Lesser" for Americans but still fucking evil for Palestinians.
You guys do not get it at all. There are a ton of Israeli supporters here (who support Trump) so many to the point where if Kamala goes completely against Israel she will LOSE the election. This is a tight election and she cannot risk losing anything. It is awful that that’s how it is here but she cannot just do what you want her to do.
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10:02 - actually there aren’t a lot of centrists expressing that. The people expressing hesitancy over voting for Harris are people who oppose the Democratic party’s support of ongoing genocide in Palestine and now Lebanon
exactly lol
Exactly, and it’s annoying that D’Angelo doesn’t want to see that as something that has weight. There are valid reasons not to vote for Harris much like there are valid reasons not to vote for Trump and we should treat one like they are less innocent than the other because one is a better liar.
he’s so uninformed it’s actually gross i’m about to say something
@@nm8925no, there's zero valid reasons not to vote for Kamala. Don't be both sides-ing this again. Genocide is bad, vote Kamala.
@@maimee1 endorsement and voting are two different things. It’s very important to note this difference and that’s the nuance D’Angelo is missing here.
Reminder to double check that you're registered to vote even if you think you already are. Look into why Alabama is being sued over registration purges. Also, be aware that some states registration closes sooner than others (example Georgia closes Oct 7th).
While being incredibly frustrated with our system is so valid, it's really a sign of privilege, ignorance, or despair to not take this seriously. We can't afford to lose any ground if we want to move forward. The despair is so real, but overcoming it is such a powerful act of defiance against systems that benefit from keeping you feeling powerless.
100% THIS! Along with please check if you're still registered to vote!!!😭
I agree it’s privilege! Wish someone would ask a trans celebrity what they think everyone should do in November because imo it’s p clear
d'angelo my jaw is on the FLOOR over your take on this. i'm not even a huge fan of hers, but i have so much respect for what chappell roan said and the only way it can be interpreted as "centrist" is if you're not paying attention to the state of affairs right now.
to be clear -- i am voting for kamala, but only because we have no choice. dems are using trump as a gun to our heads and are relying on him, celebrity endorsements/pop culture integration, and big money to win this election as opposed to EARNING our votes. and it's not even hyperbolic to say we literally CANNOT survive a bar this low. with climate change, the increasing possibility of ww3, COVID becoming an endemic, a housing crisis, and obviously the ongoing genocide in gaza -- the stakes are too high to dismiss the fact that BOTH OF THEM are hurling us down an existential path of destruction. if 2 pilots are inevitably going to crash a plane, how much enthusiasm is it appropriate to have for the pilot that tells you "the plane's not crashing! woohoo girl power!" on your way down? how much would it matter if the other pilot shouted "fuck you!" the whole time and crashed the plane a lot harder and faster?
anyone that hates the republican party should be outraged that the democratic party has
1) bragged about kamala's endorsement from the cheneys
2) passed republican concessions (which costed lives) on the covid relief bill that didn't even have or need republican votes
3) passed a bipartisan infrastructure bill (they had a supermajority & didn't need republican votes) which exacerbated our car dependency and required more oil drilling
4) not done anything within their power to combat the republican party's assault on our rights (pack the supreme court, codify abortion rights, use the bully pulpit to defend trans people or debunk transphobic misinformation)
5) spent more money on police (and overseen more police killings) and drilled more oil than even f*cking trump
6) normalized trump's stances on immigration, israel, and COVID which not that long ago were considered far right extremism
this is all off the top of my head but it's hard to even articulate their harm in a list. i mean the international and domestic laws that this administration has managed to break with their foreign policy decisions is astounding. not to mention the economy and what an unsustainable direction it's going in. comparing both parties deserves a venn diagram and it would almost look like a circle. this election has done a really good job of dividing and distracting the working class and tricking us into thinking we are powerless outside the voting booth.
and omg please consider the irony of you saying wait to criticize kamala AFTER the election -- WHEN SHE IS LITERALLY IN OFFICE RIGHT NOW AND NOBODY IS CRITICIZING THIS ADMINISTRATION FROM THE LEFT. we keep being told that we can't criticize the democratic party or expect them to do good things or that they'll lose if they doing anything remotely progressive -- and look where it's gotten us. things like m4a, campaign finance reform, the green new deal, universal college, defunding the police, universal paid leave, and ubi have been completely erased from public discourse ever since biden was elected even though WE NEED THESE POLICIES MORE THAN EVER. it's possible to both vote for kamala and acknowledge the reality that she is not on our side.
an endorsement of either candidate is an irresponsible use of a public platform that will age like milk when all this shit hits the fan. a more productive use would be to promote unions, class consciousness, grassroots movements, direct action and mutual aid. we can't keep letting the democratic party divert that kind of collective organizing towards their campaigns.
babe you've gotta stop clickbaiting you're gonna get in trouble 😭😭
he explained why he titled it that near the end and I think it’s a valid point
I am confused why you’re using Taylor swift’s endorsement as a good example of media training and being clear/explicit in her stance while also giving her the benefit of the doubt when it comes to not supporting a genocide (which she’s decided to stay completely silent about for a full year despite her massive platform- something she absolutely has been extensively criticized for) where Chappell has been very explicit about her stance on Palestine yet she should have been more clear on the “both-sides” issue?
I mean, love the dude but he himself hasn’t been as outspoken as he should be about the genocide happening. So I’m not surprised that this is his stance. He’s projecting quite a bit.
this ^^^^ this is the bigger issue here, who cares about media training and how eloquently she put the "both sides" issue
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@@hajarmdn4883 yup its giving me the ick
@@impossibletangerine9785 Well... If you want her words to have positive impact as opposed to create stupid backlash you should care. She's got a lot of people watching, of course I want her to be understood instead of misinterpreted.
I think that the criticism of Chappel for this is ridiculous. Yo keep saying that she should be aware that people don´t use critical thinking but the same happened to you not that long ago when you were criticised for not mentioning Gaza on your Starbucks video.
People are always going to find something to complain about, you can´t control it and I think justifying or giving any thought to those opinions is a waste of time. Her message was clear. Yes, she was angry in her videos but who wouldn´t be? Also the fact that a lot of the criticism was fueled by zionists who don´t like that she cares about Palestine is telling.
I find her not hiring a PR person so refreshing. Every time she comes out with a statement I support her more and more. The only concern I have is for her mental health in all this, because dealing with everything she is facing must not be easy, but you should blame the people who are putting her through this, not her, and definitely not settle for "communication is a job, you should expect that response if you are not 100% clear every time you speak, even though people are just waiting to get you for anything at this point".
Also your take in the whole "the two sides have problems" thing is just wrong. I understand that mindset but the reality is that you can only push a candidate during the election period, not after. This is the moment to raise those questions and make them earn your vote. Just "not being Trump" is not enough. And she IS going to vote for Kamala, is not like she is abstaining, but she is pushing people to question her. I can´t think of a universe where that is wrong.
Your comment shows such a profound lack of understanding of us politics. We absolutely can push candidates after the election period because guess what? They can run for re-election. And if she had been clear and genuinely wanted to push her audience to question Kamala, she could have said “I implore my audience to be critical of policies on the left such as x y and z” rather than being the most vague she possibly could have been.
@@deee71194That is what she said though. She has pushed multiple times for people to research politics as a whole, which is true.
@@deee71194re-election is still an election no?
you cooked
I do want her to hire one eventually, though, for her mental health. It cannot be healthy for her to absorb all this hate and criticism without someone to guide her along, and speak on her behalf when she isn't able to personally.
Chappell Roan does not need media training. People need to learn how to be less media-illiterate. 🙄
One of the things that took me out was her statement of the "left" when the democratic party is not in fact leftist
words mean nothing nowadays, people think liberal, leftist and democrat is all the same stuff
both republicans and democrats aim for the same goal-enrichment of the elite. they don’t care about us. that’s why fascism is lurking regardless of who we vote for unless the person were to be third party
i think reiterating that "using critical-thinking skills" shouldn't be expected is insane. why shouldn't we expect critical thinking? is it because no one is practicing it? should we also apply this to kindness, acknowledgement of our country's history, maybe we should stop expecting people to have respect all together. giving up on expectations is the fastest way to approve of behavior that shouldn't be normalized
@@suzymcdoozy it's sadly very consistent with democratic/centrist takes.
I agree wholeheartedly
queer women in the world of artists will always and have always been made to be political. her existence and art is forced into politics. we never do this shit with straight artists. when was the last time someone expected a popular straight male artist to clarify his politics. i don't think we should be this far into her personal life and personal beliefs, but that doesn't matter to those without critical thinking skills. i usually really enjoy your videos and takes but this one missed the mark in so many ways and comes off ignorant
"When was the last time someone expected a straight male to clarify his politics?"
Eminem. Kendrick Lamar. Bruce Springsteen. Radiohead.
@@angelsunemtoledocabllero5801 were they open about their politics or were they asked about their alignment?
really weird women celebrities are the only ones expected to give an endorsement. like i cant even think of any men. but when a women does or doesnt it gets thinkpieces. i never hear people complain about men endorsing or not endorsing. i was a fan of her since 2022 when things were fun and it makes me sad. i also cannot with snl i hate it. i'm the same way with all stand up. but love when comics have podcasts LMAO
Focus on changing the party only after voting for them? Why would they bother listening to you if they know they have your vote?
Presidential vote is only 1 vote. Make sure federal isn't led by fascist, and focus local
You can change the party through primary elections and by writing your elected officials. You can eliminate the two party system by advocating for ranked choice voting. You can stay engaged and make your voice heard, when you don’t you relinquish your ability to influence politics whatsoever.
I think she’s right and she should say it again 📢📢📢
I think the fact that she got so big so quick is a huge part of why she has been so controversial. Im not sure how she will overcome all the issues. Ill edit this at the end of the vid if i have more insight
i don’t think so because sabrina carpenter blew up around the same time and in the same way as chappell, but she has no “controversies”. and people are okay with her exploiting queerness in her music videos and performances even though sabrina herself has clarified she’s “not queer”
@burnt-croissants you've got a point there, like her using queerness in her art, but not being queer, prolly saves her a lot of criticism. Like, now Chappel has been set up to a higher standard cause she's gay and vocal about what she believes in. It sucks
Hey, D'Angelo. At 11:55 you say "once we have the less insane administration, that's when you can unleash all the criticism you want".
I'm genuinely wondering, now that we have most of Biden's term behind us: is there an instance where public pressure has pushed him to the left on an issue? Do we actually have any evidence that this is a viable strategy?
We've literally been BEGGING and PROTESTING to stop aiding the apartheid state of Israel since October OF LAST YEAR and have they listened to us??? Keep in mind that we have a DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENT in office RIGHT NOW. Yeah ok, kamala isn't gonna a do shit if she wins.
I'm going to venture a guess and say that maybe the point was to imply is that we have a uni-party that doesn't do enough for the citizens, and we deserve someone better than Kamala. I think that Chappell Roan, like most of us, believes that the American people shouldn't have to choose between a shitty candidate and an even shittier candidate.
nah you're spot on especially since the "two party system" is just one being centrist even on the right and the other is just extreme right. Democratic Party in politics both u.s even canada have never been about trying to help people in the slightest which is why real changes never really happen and are torn. It just sucks because people can't seem to comprehend it at all on that lone thing as to why Chappell criticizes it and im not even a fan of hers.
This, its all the same and it’s sad to see liberals become extremist
correct...trust me...liberals have always been extremist...
first miss in a long time, i got where you were coming from at first but you lost me. my opinion is it feels like the media is twisting everything and anything she says no matter what cause shes a woman and cause shes gay. we all saw what they did to brittany and that was just because she was a woman
also who is even on twitter anymore, doesnt work for me as a source of popular opinion anymore
bowen wang did nothing wrong, but there are parallels with how the media treats female popstars in her allover arch. you keep saying youre not on twitter and then pulling up tweets
@@LuckyLose-jv1iq also a lot of the people who came for her after her interview where she didn’t endorse Kamala were gay men, having disingenuous takes and straight up saying she doesn’t belong in the queer community?!? that’s where that sentiment came from. and like, if you’re not part of the lgbtq community of course you’re not going to understand the nuances and the dynamics (talking about d’angelo) but it isn’t some new phenomenon that gay men like to exert their opinions over women and especially queer women. even if we’re all queer, gay men still have the advantage of the patriarchy that queer women do not. and yes, while i don’t think bowen yang was being malicious and we shouldn’t harass him, his tone was condescending.
chappell is so valid. america is a democracy and a democracy isn't just about voting but it is also about raising your voice for the issues that matter to you. why should she endorse or even vote for someone who isn't listening and responding to her problems? also why would the people in power change their position if we as voting citizens don't tell them about our problems, if we don't show are dismay and disagreement.
we aren’t a democracy, we are a democratic republic. there’s a difference.
@@salonijain8186 this!!
So valid for doing nothing to help women’s rights? Lol. Voting is what matters not Instagram posts
now VOTING is what matters vote democrat
The time for doing that and the vehicle for doing that is not fucking instagram one month before the election to one of the MOST important group of voters.
Yeah huge disagree on the "complain after you win the election" point. Complain every day. Treating it like a finish line or a dead line is giving it more power than it should have. Every day is a new opportunity to change for the better.
The part that hurts is that both side *are* death, D’Angelo. You’ve made a video responding to people “calling you out” for not talking about Palestine. I do think in that situation you were in the right, but you’ve never mentioned them before-hand. At least that I can look up. But that’s why people are criticizing both. People will die by our hands and our money no matter what we do because of the two party system. I understand the reasoning of supporting the left, but criticism of the left is good and doesn’t have to only happen outside of election times. That’s how we start to move away from a two-party system. Communication is important. Since you believe it’s on the communicator, I will go out and say it. You don’t seem informed past the basics. I may be wrong but that’s what I felt has been communicated.
Well said!
Absolutely spot on
100% agree with the point that D'Angelo seemed to have glossed over the genocide in both cases yet responded to the criticism received from the starbucks video, there's just a hint of irony in that. It's like he said in this video: he should've known that would happen for not mentioning the massive elephant in that video. And so according to his own opinion about miscommunication being on the communicator, that was on him. Usually love D'Angelo's takes, but definitely felt more conflicted with this one.
The whole voting thing is so annoying for people to get mad at. I will vote for a democrat but I would never endorse Kamala as Chappell is completely correct. Kamala doesn’t have any positive policy on trans rights, she just says she’s not as bad as Trump. Kamala doesn’t have any positive position on Palestinian rights, she just says she’s not as bad as Trump. She has completely accepted the Republican border policy and is now pro border wall. As a trans person, I absolutely do not believe this is good enough, like Kamala’s argument is that I’m 50% N*zi, but that guy is 100% N*zi so vote for me!!!
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I respectfully disagree about your argument that demands for political parties should come after the election. I get voting for the less fascist of the options, I do it too, every time. However, it is vital that voters make their demands known and rally for them before the election as well as after, because the parties have more vested interest to meet those demands and integrate them into their programs before elections. Personally, as a leftist, looking at how the democratic party switched up their messaging in the past 4 years only (e.g. immigration) and how often democrats have been toothless in the face of the republican party even when they are fully in power, it seems unproductive to just stay quiet until after the election - because we just keep spiralling towards the right
Exactly. Giving democrats empty threats about not voting for them is the only leverage voters have because the US is barely a democracy
The pathetic thing is that Biden won his campaign on being pro immigration and is now flipping on it because of Republican backlash. Now they're flipping on environmental problems, police funding, and medicare. Democrat party truly just enables Republicans, I hate it here lmaoo
Yeah like having been through multiple electoral cycles... The point at which we hold our own party accountable and force them to get down to business never seems to come?
And then every election we have to go into crisis mode because the Republicans are accelerating into fascism (which they are/have; I'm not arguing against that), so we have to do whatever we can to hold them back.
And I will. I do. I protest, and I vote straight down the Dem ticket every time (actually the Working Families Party ticket, but it's the same candidates getting the votes because they put forward the Dem candidates, so same difference).
It's just tiring and not beyond criticism, and we should be able to publicly say it.
(Also, when *IS* Kamala Harris going to pander to the pro-Palestinian vote?)
it’s fkn terrible seeing the dems fumble topics like immigration and trans rights because you’d obviously think that they opposed Trump’s insane views but they genuinely do not care anymore. The emphasis on protecting the border is so odd at a time where the safety of immigrants are being constantly threatened. I hate this rhetoric that we must settle and not even push for changes we want to see from representatives. They are serving the people at the end of the day.
That’s a fair point. I don’t think that full steam support is always necessary to get people to vote. It’s possible to emphasize the value of voting as harm reduction while still criticizing the dems. I also think that having someone in power keeping up pressure about enabling genocide is really valuable. But it must be horribly difficult to strike that balance in the public eye.
This is a hilariously corny take. Most of America feels exactly how she feels. Our money will continue to fund wars in other countries no matter who is in charge. That’s what she is saying. The fact that she doesn’t feel like either side represents her views isn’t a crazy take. That’s probably more common than anyone will actually admit to.
It’s actually pretty corny to think that there will ever a candidate you align 100% with.
So you agree, you're a lame single-issue voter?
@@IkeyCaptain tell me what exactly led you to such an ignorant assumption?
@@mikem5896Maybe not 100% but at least that "genocide is bad" would be enough. Is too much to ask for a anti-genocide candidate?
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"Elect the party you want to organise under."
like wtf… both parties want me and my people gone. None of them are even allowing me to organize under them unless I bootlick their fascist agenda
I'm not aware of all of the situation but from the clips I've seen, she hasn't missed so far. Endorsing genocide is not in the interest of anyone on this earth and standing up for oneself is absolutely valid.
People are so mad at her when they should be mad at the politicians they helped put into power and who do not represent their interests. Choosing instead to fund israel or whatever other terrible border policy that keeps children in cages. Like be for real, this online outrage is pathetic.
@@bandedski2550 period!!
People are mad at the politicians. But we’re here now. Turning your nose up as a leftist or liberal person and not voting for KH is only helping the right and everyone seems to be missing this 😭
@@mayagarcia-hector2732then Kamala needs to be more progressive to get our votes and help the country
@@mayagarcia-hector2732the way no one seems to understand the bigger picture is seriously depressing
@@thesovgc and I LOVE the youth but it’s a uniquely gen z, gen alpha issue. I do believe it is just a or experience thing? Like just not enough understanding of the larger picture? Look at the civil rights movement! And how much painful compromise had to be made for progress
This was a disappointing take. I thought you’d have more advocacy for speaking up and being authentic without needing to spoon feed people what she means line by line. I think we all know why her statement got so much heat, it’s not mostly because of her vagueness but due to her being super left. It’s because liberals are being weirdos with a mob mentality because she’s pointed out the truth and something that needs to be emphasized more.
Edit: also you danced around the biggest elephant in the room: the active genocide, one that have now been extended to 2 countries. All being funded by the current democratic administration. If being better than trump is the only standard to getting our vote, then we’re over. This is super disappointing. We had a perfect chance to pressure Kamala to EARN our votes, yet we are bullying people who are standing with Palestine and rightfully criticizing Kamala. And let’s not even get into all of Kamala’s past and current fascist beliefs that hurts black and brown, esp poor ones the most.
i have a feeling this one is going to age poorly.
Dude are you seriously saying that Israel is now genociding Lebanon too? What dimension do you even get your news from?
I agree, and am disappointed he didn’t mention this at all??
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i love dangelo but you cant talk about this situation or the situation w starbucks and just ignore the elephant in the room…
Commenting so everyone who scrolls through the comments can see this because it isn't getting enough traction.
I frowned so hard at the title when the video popped up on my feed. I am not a Chappell Roan fan (I don't think I can name a song of hers I'm sorry) but I know about the Tiktoks and I respect her for it. And now, watching the video, and reading the comments, I'm frowning harder at the title.
My takeaway was that while her takes are correct & valid, phrases she uses are being continuously misconstrued. Then, the criticism against her gets worse when she responds. I think the take here was just that there are ways to relay the same message while protecting yourself from awful people online and that media training could help with that? That’s what I picked up at least. Unfortunately people online will just refuse to think critically and that requires a work around.
I wonder if people are just being willfully obtuse because yes, Chappell is overall right but her phrasing and timing is wrong. You can’t be mad at people misunderstanding her when her original message was vague and unnuanced to the point that her fans have multiple interpretations on how it is perceived or what was said. If she really expressed a clear opinion, she wouldn’t need to make several clarifying statements afterwards. It’s not tone-policing, victim blaming, or misogyny when D’Angelo says, “this is giving you negative attention, maybe do this instead.”
@@parkerisles7256 The problem is that clearly D'Angelo's take is wrong, precisely because of these comments existing. Even if you were to take him at his word and believe that what he says is right, he himself is being flooded with an overwhelming amount of people disagreeing with him vehemently and telling him that what he said was bad and hurtful. Even if we were to assume the viewpoint of him being right, he's trying to give advice to someone on how not to be misunderstood yet most of the video's comments section apparently misunderstood him. He himself just proved that what he's saying doesn't work.
If you take a moment to think about the current major international conflicts in global politics today, it becomes very clear what her “vague” statement is about. Obviously, she’s talking about the US backing and support of Israel and their siege on Gaza and even Lebanon now, which both parties proudly endorse. I could tell right away when I read her statement because it is a cause I am passionate about and anyone else who pays attention to international news should know too. Its obvious she wanted to keep it vague to avoid stepping on toes at first since it’s apparently such a touchy subject for many to criticize genocide.
there's one thing the blue no matter who crowd either doesn't understand or refuses to come to terms with (I believe it's the latter), and that's that if losing critical votes, critical districts, critical elections, etc. from your own voterbase is not enough to get you to alter your platform to appeal to said voters, you are admitting that you do not serve your constituents. the inverse is also true; if, no matter how unpopular you are, you maintain your power, you have absolutely no incentive to change your strategy to maintain said power. what chappell roan is saying, like a lot of leftists critical of Democrats, is that she does not like rewarding bad behavior with increased political power. it's very weird that people expect her to cave to the elected official rather than the other way around.
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exactly
Politicians aren’t going to take the fact you didn’t vote for them as a punishment and a personal lesson. They won’t be affected by your choice. You will. So if you vote for a radical, egotistical, vengeful dictator like Trump, or you don’t vote at all, or you vote for a third party candidate that doesn’t break 2% of the total votes… you’re not “sending a message”…. You’re deliberately making a choice that has serious consequences on you and the rest of the country that you have to be able to live with at the end of the day. It’s not always about voting for who you love, it’s about voting strategically - against who you most strongly disagree with, and for their opponent that’s most likely to win. Even if you dislike them too. This is the USA, not Burger King. You’re not always going to have it your way.
@@AuthentiKaate Kate were you upset by the wrongful execution of Marcellus Williams last week
Untrue. At this point we're on the edge of total collapse into fascism, and voting straight Dem ticket is the only way to stop the extreme right and the terrifying Project 2025 strategy. Yes, I am aware of Harris' stance on Israel and Palestine. But she is also burdened with catering to centrists in an attempt to run.
im sorry d'angelo but this didn't hit 😭 she hasn't had the time to have real media training with her sudden explosive fame, excusing taylor swift's echoing silence on genocide n saying her statement was good was .......... n it's so clear the media is against her for every reason - being pro-palestine, pro-lgbt, being lesbian, actively putting drag on a pedestal and supporting queens at shows - she's going to constantly be put out in a bad way, it doesn't matter what she says or how she words it. I do agree she should take a step back from socmed but its entirely her decision how or when she wants to and i think she 100% knows she needs help with both her statements and her just like... PR. i have a feeling tho she'll continue to speak out publicly regardless of how people take it because she wants these issues to be heard and wants her platform to be used to amplify it and i dont think shes wrong for that. maybe itll ruin her career but i think she's rlly just trying to use what she has to make a change and people are spinning it negatively as they would anyone speaking on "controversial" issues.