@@shrinebow.pronouns don’t refer to gender in that way. Someone can identify as a girl or present as feminine but their preferred pronouns are simply that. I see them as gender expression almost , so neutral, masc, fem..
I was losing it with him while the other two kept taking. It was like a grenade went off and I couldn’t hear anything else other than the echo of “vicarriagely”😂
The Woman in the sword video is Momo O'Brien, she is amazing! Her youtube channel is about immersive experiences (Theme parks, larp, interactive plays, themed fairs, etc) is one of my favorite youtube channels of all times!!! Also she talks a lot about fantasy content and play a lot of characters over her social media... so yeah she was not being realistic, she was playing into the dark fantasy romance fandom stereotypes.
agreed! things can be very attractive in specific roleplay scenarios, and yet obviously she is not talking about all women wanting that to happen in real life, but simply a trope that a lot of women who are into fantasy tend to enjoy.
Yeah she's just being silly and hyperbolic but he's making it into some big argument. Like dude, she's just into roleplay, why are you making it into a thing.
And I’m ONLY commenting to defend Momo but she also said all “we” want- so it’s not even clear if she was talking about all women or just larp players or her friend group- like it’s splitting hairs but it doesn’t seem like she was trying to represent more than a small community
So glad others were here to say this since I haven't watched her in a bit but nothing more immediately put me on team "Fuck This Guy" than seeing he stitched her. I'm so glad they all quite quickly recognized her schtick and it being a fun little bit. I bet they'd even love some of her videos, they're absolutely oozing with genuine passion and love for that craft.
I have to say that the friendship between Jarvis and Jordan is my favorite thing. It’s such a genuine connection, and the mutual respect and platonic affection always shines through. It’s a great way to model adult relationships between men! I know it’s good for all people, but girls are besties online all the time, I don’t see this level of friendship all the time with men! Thanks for showing us this!!
The chart guy would be absolutely adorable if he dedicated this passion to anything other than misogyny. Imagine these little charts, but for gundams or something
@@The.Harsh.Truths oh, of course you're redefining misogyny, I just saw your other comments simping for the misogynist. Settle down little guy, he's not gonna kiss you.
just a really bad company in general the website has a horrible user experience especially on mobile where the entire screen is covered in adds far more than needed to run a website of fandoms size and on top of that the site has bad moderation with the site and its mod team doing everything in their power to stop wikis from moving to better sites. also fandom allows anyone to edit pages which causes plenty misinformation on the topic of the wiki also the site doesn't do anything the fact check info that is put on the site or if the info is found to be wrong the don't fix the errors @@reckless_herb
@@reckless_herbjust some horribly bad platform management and gross misuse of the platform for advertisement. They defaced a bunch of wikis into a major brand ad campaign, are weird about taking down defunct wikis or supporting more well-made wikis on the same topic, and have tanked the site’s performance with an overabundance of ads and auto-playing videos. That’s what I personally remember, but I’m sure there’s more.
@@reckless_herbHollow Knight youtuber "mossbag" has a really good video on fandom in a general context and how it has fucked up several wikis, has taken dubious actions and overall has poor management. There is also another video on censorship from an editor on the Fear and Hunger wiki but I don't remember the channel name
@@spelcheak A terminally online dipstick psychoanalyzing a woman that does LARP/interactive stuff for being cheeky about a dark fantasy trope feels like a weird thing to go "what is misogyny to you people" about.
Bro, I don't f*ck and I can understand that liking something in fiction isn't the same as liking something in real life. Misogynists either want to justify their behavior or they don't want to put in the effort to humanize the people they want to spend the rest of their lives with.
pretty much its like when they come up to girls and women and say oh you're a feminist? so I can punch you? I can hit you and beat the cr*p out of you? like they're actually frothing at the mouth with excitement at the idea of hurting women its actually insane
I suspect that all the misogynists who fixate on womens fictional fantasies are covert hypocrites and all it’d take is someone leaking a list of their most frequented p*rnhub categories and they’d be real quick to insist there’s no correlation between fictional consumption and one’s actual sexuality proclivities.
As a neurodivergent person, these charts are highly ND my dude. It’s sad because I can see the appeal if you’re a young ND person looking to provide structure to what can feel like a chaotic and unfriendly world. Feels exploitative, in a way
It feels like it preys on young ND men specifically, pretending to explain the world that is often confusing with misogyny dressed up in charts that appeal to people looking for logic in an illogical world.
THISS. I was previously subscribed to this guy after seeing one video and I thought, huh, that is like math but cool. But upon watching his ick video, I realised that he's not a great guy after all and unsubbed. You're so right on how this can be exploitative to younger neurodivergent individuals. I'm old enough to form opinions of my own, and even I almost got hooked into his bullshit.
yeah as an ND person can confirm that i have made charts to try to understand social relationships before lol. it’s sad that he’s using that to be a misogynist bc i agree i see the appeal and how it could be exploitative
Yeah. He's wearing his autistic tendencies on his sleeve. Black and white thinking, taking everything literally, obsessively trying to sort facts into his own little charts and graphs. And it's going to have an appeal to other guys who have the same problems as him. It's really, really sad. Perpetrator AND victim.
I highly suspect I'm ND and I am just listening to this as something to sleep to. I am curious to see if I form the same opinion and what that means to me.
as a certified freak: Just because I want to roleplay it, does not mean I actually want to have someone do it to me for real. Half the reason I have a fetish like that to begin with is because I'm reclaiming a story from my trauma. It gives me _control_ of my narrative. Taking that control out of the equation is only going to traumatise me more.
Yeah, there are plenty of people who have, for example, a non-consent kink that they play out in a safe environment with their partner. That doesn't mean they want the real thing to happen to them. That's the scary thing about dudes like this - they can't separate the fantasy from someone's actual desires.
Like, the entire point of role play is that you don’t have to worry about what the consequences would be if the scenario is real. I don’t think every person turned on by maid costumes actually wants to harass or assault their employees, but there’s something exciting about the scenario for lots and lots of people. There’s always more to dig into, but usually the entire POINT is to have something and not let it be that deep
Jarvis' hyperfixation on basketball and trying to quiz your knowledge is so real! My hyperfixation is bratz dolls and I am in a reddit group where people ask for ID on a doll and it just feels so good when I know who it is!
It has been helpful for me in this case because I couldn’t really express what felt icky about the hoe math guy when I saw one clip of him, and watching them discuss him helped me understand/pinpoint it better.
is anyone else confused by the Jarvis-only thumbnails? before I started watching last week's I genuinely thought it might be a Jarvis solo episode lmao
Yeah sometimes it confuses me and I think it's just a Jarvis video on his channel until I see it's two hours long and had sad boyz in the title. I don't mind though, I imagine it gets more clicks.
When they did the Skibbidi Toilet ep with Rhett, I mistook Skibbidi (or something?) for a goofily photoshopped Jordan and it took weeks before I realized my misunderstanding 😂
The fact that the girl in the “SWORD” video is quite literally a LARPer is insane. Just like. Click on her page dude she is not being for real. Like. She actually plays swords and princesses she is a dress up girlie.
It's good that someone is finally teaching men how to hate women through math. Previously if I wanted to hate women because of fake toughness I could watch Andrew Tate. If I wanted to hate women because of fake psychology I could watch Jordan Peterson. But who was I supposed to watch if I wanted to hate women because of fake math? Finally someone holds the absolutely necessary position of Master Math Misogynist, truly neither the hero we need or the hero we deserve.
i am horrified by the guy using Game of Thrones to prove his point, referencing a scene where two Dothraki men fight over the right to SA a woman, and implying that Daenerys "likes" this even though the show depicts her as being SAd by Drogo (and in the book she's THIRTEEN). That is so many red flags in one analogy
Oh my god, that's so much worse than I thought! I've never read the books or watched the show, so I thought it was bad enough that he used a series written by a man as an example of what women want (along with what context he did provide). Knowing the actual context is so important!
Also I never really got into GoT but from the bits and pieces pop culture has squeezed into my brain without me even trying, I'm pretty sure she was scared and unhappy the whole time and then there was some stockholm stuff going on. GoT is screwed up on purpose, the whole story seems to be almost a "How many messed up things can I do to these characters before they die or go insane?" competition, so using it as a guide on acceptable relationships is pretty funny, in a concerning way.
@@mayaenglish5424I think in the books she was not raped by drogo and he waited until she wanted to have sex. But she was really young at the time as is the case with all characters in GOT
Speaking as an autistic person, this chart has a potent aura of “I’m the worst kind of autistic man who never got the support to learn that modelling other people as flowcharts will always be an inaccurate model”
Oh wow, I’m glad you pointed that out. I made mental flow charts for small talk and it was quite satisfying to feel like I’d “cracked the code”. For deeper stuff, like with friends, I have more of like a “protocol”; I’ve learned what kinds of questions to ask depending on what that person seems to want out of the interaction, like if it’s a friend grappling with a difficult decision. Even then I’m lost a lot, but learning to ask open-ended questions was a game changer for me and it’s made me a helpful friend from time to time. So I get the chart-making. But this guy seems to have motivated reasoning. I’ve seen this a lot with incels/redpillers, they’ll superimpose the *aesthetic* of reason onto a deep-seated anger that stems from some experience or ideology that’s not meaningfully related. This is typical nice-guy shit. “Women just want assholes and it’s unfair that the supply of women is being hoarded by guys who don’t deserve such prizes.” Even back in my sarcastic edgy teenager days I used to say that some men think women are blowjob robots, just press the right buttons in the right order and sex will be dispensed
Insomnia is a city in Final Fantasy 15!!! which is obviously different from a ff7 attack but it's fun that you guys said "Insomnia" and "Final Fantasy" in the same sentence! I am normal about this video game 👍🏼
37:15 Wisdom from my Horse Girl days: that type of horse racing is called harness racing. The "carriage" is called a sulky. In harness racing, the horse does not gallop, it either trots (the two-beat gait where the horse's diagonal legs move together) or paces (a special two-beat gait that only certain horses can do, where the legs on the same side of the horse move together.) Sometimes trotting/pacing races happen with the jockey actually on the horse, but I think it's more common to do harness racing because the trot is famously uncomfortable to sit because it's so bouncy, probably even more so when the horses are going so fast. The breed of horse usually used in harness racing is called the Standardbred (in contrast with the breed of horse usually used in gallop races, the Thoroughbred.)
“Like to see some stuck-up jockey boy sittin’ on Dan Patch?” We had sulky racing at our fairgrounds during the summer in my childhood. Which was not quite concurrent with The Music Man.
The dark triad is actually a real psychology term. The three traits being referred to are seen in many abusive partners, friends and relatives, which makes it infuriating to see it being used incorrectly by someone who quite possibly would fit under that umbrella.
@@gurgleblurgle7345Um that’s kinda the point a lot of women are attracted to these toxic men who have trauma and pass the trauma to other people attracted or see it the same, and yes you need some darker traits to attract women, NOT ALL of them.
the dark triad is a very ableist (specifically saneist) concept that is based on the idea that people with personality disorders are evil, violent, toxic, and dangerous. specifically, it frames people with antisocial & narcissistic personality disorder (and in general cluster b personality disorders) as threats who should be treated as something evil and almost subhuman. this is, you know, not true, and also a very violent stereotype. it’s used as a justification for equating a group of mental illnesses with violence and abuse, basically. it’s gross as fuck.
@@Jay7Rockauntreated mental illness/disorders is bad in general. cluster b or not, untreated people can be toxic and dangerous for a variety of reasons. like untreated ptsd can make vets terrible people to be around. that doesn’t mean they don’t deserve treatment and the opportunity to be a good person. most cluster b disorders are born from trauma, being traumatized doesn’t make you problematic. choosing to do nothing about it, does. (i am not talking about people who literally cannot access help, that’s a different issue)
@@reckless_herbthe diagnostic criteria for cluster b personality disorders are definitionally problematic. Problematic behaviours are what makes cluster b cluster b
@@jbone877yes, that is the diagnostic criteria. but it’s problematic behavior, not a problematic person. a problematic person actively chooses to behave that way, i genuinely do not believe anyone would choose to have a cluster b disorder (if that was possible) even minimal research shows that they heavily negatively affect the person with the disorder, just as much, if not more than the people around them. a common discussion i’ve seen about narcissistic personality disorder specifically, is that narcissists don’t lack empathy, it’s that their trauma response trumps the empathy they have. the issue is when people act like when someone is diagnosed with cluster b, there is no chance of them being good people or treating others well. its hard to treat cluster b, but it isn’t impossible. it takes hard work, and a lot of trial and error, but it can be done. it can drastically improve the person with the disorders life; also improving how they treat others.
it's true that folks in the cluster b category can be, and often are, "problematic", as you say. but does that mean they don't deserve empathy and respect? does having a "problematic" behavior pattern mean you'll be a bad person forever? should we hold people accountable for every action they've ever done in perpetuity, even if they do the work to minimize the harm their behavior causes? this is the issue i have with framing cluster b in the way people often do. EVERYONE has room to grow and learn as a person, regardless of mental illness or lack thereof. so extending the same grace to everyone, regardless of what they've done is what i believe in, so long as they've made the choice and put in the effort to atone for it and take accountability. if you are a victim of someone with a cluster b personality disorder, that is a different story, but it is your duty to judge the person-- not the disorder. it's up to you whether or not to forgive the individual if and when they seek help and get better, and it's absolutely okay to not let them into your lives ever again (and this should be known by them, too, because it's part of taking accountability) but you absolutely CANNOT frame the disorder itself as "problematic" because it contributes to stigma that makes people not reach out for help. which has the potential to create more victims.
I used to have friends like this podcast group about a decade ago. Sadly. These types of people are extremely passive aggressive, low self worth, hate themselves and project it onto others and eachother. They are an absolute nightmare to be around. Friend groups like this give me the creeps. All is not what it seems. Seems like the obvious righteous path when you are younger, and also sort of edgy and cool and progressive. Their politics is all about power redistribution, and enjoy the credit of being the morally righteous saviour that has the advocate role, and pretend like they are above power dynamics themselves. Sounds great on the surface. But they are actually the most** invested in power dynamics, and hierarchies. Like, part of me freezes when I think back about how manipulative, fake, phony, betraying & self-justifying they were. The drama was muted but present and far more insidious than outright conflict because you were always being gaslit. And even though they pretend to be anti-hierarchical, these groups are most definitely hierarchical. For the most part they hate open conflict, they are afraid of it. Never understood that at the time because it didn’t appear so. I’m writing this for the person out there like me who might be there now.
2:20:00 Jordan is exactly right. This es the exact reason I got into these kinds of guys when I was in my early teens. I didn’t really understand social cues and how to navigate interactions and people that presented “rules” I saw as very helpful and useful. It did make me a bit of a shithead because I would essentially blame people for not following rules they didn’t know existed but I at the time lacked the ability to navigate things without them.
@@SmellyHam a big part of the issue is these people are making exact statements of “this is how things are. Things just are this way. Here’s how people work” etc they’re not “here’s how things tend to be or people usually react” etc. they’re hardline “this is the rule and if they break it they’re wrong actually” and the other issue is they’re usually not even accurate well considered points. It’s not true generalizations is rules for how I want things to work based off my narrow opinion of how the world should be.
I am quietly dying over the fact that Anastasia *has a lioness on her shirt* 😂 “Checkmate, human women are literally lions; confirmed!” - Chart Guy, probably
To give context on the dark triad, the biggest usage of this in mass culture is the diagnosis of serial killers. Personally, even that use I find weirdly fetishistic in the same way that people misunderstand the point of Patrick Bateman, where you’re supposed to hate him but it turns into a kind of admiration of him. Or the way that directors remark that it’s impossible to make a truly anti-war movie, in that even the most stark depictions of graphic violence serves the ends of positive propaganda. In terms of manosphere stuff the general implication is kind of equivalent to the Jordan Peterson idea of femininity as derived from chaos. Women, in their chasing of and desiring of men, allegedly perform a kind of psychopathic value derivation of men and the social and economic status delivered to them as a result of the men they sleep with. Ironically, not so different from how many of the men who holds these beliefs think of women. Regardless, the point is that the general conception is that even the most evil man does not hold a candle to the least evil woman. Womanhood is defined by its leading of men away from greatness and the desire to leech off of others. Unsurprisingly, this also becomes used in racial and nationalistic contexts. I love it, it’s great, this is a super cool world we live in!!!
found this guys content on youtube before; he was just talking abt phycology in a cool way so i looked at more of his content, but then the second i saw him start to talk about women it just switched to this really passive aggressive and bad faith argument and i was like "oh...." A lot of women he stitches are making really broad and often incorrect statements themselves, but you arent helping anyone by only picking those people to react to, and using it to launch even more assumptions.
@@andrea-gp8qv FR i thought he was like that red flag guy and then I realised.. oh its just women he just doesnt like women LOL and then that attracts this awful audience 😭looking at the comments for one minute I saw the comment "Make up needs to be banned!" I shed a tear
@@tinsope4895so what about the many times he’s called out men on their problems and issues ? or are you just gonna disregard that cause it doesn’t support the agenda ?
@@Ihatescales.mp4of course they are. Women create content all the time about bad things men do in dating and generalize it to men. Second a man does it 'misogyny'.
the dark triad bs is just "women don't like me because I'm too nice, and women only like douchebags" but with more steps. It's SOOOO many words to say no one wants to ride him into the sunset cause he can't tell ren-fair from reality
cannot tell you how many times my partner and i referred to 'evil autism' while watching this. like if he were just drawing diagrams about lions and social dynamics instead of making it into weird misogyny there'd be no issue.
Truly love that Jarvis wears this shirt in every video, because I wear this shirt like every single day, so I'm always unintentionally wearing the shirt when the pods came out and then we match.
Since my dog doesn’t have thumbs I am typing this comment for him while he dictates it to me. Jarvis and Jordan, your podcast really speaks to me as a fellow very sad (dog) boy. It helps me feel better about being sad. Today I cried because my mom didn’t pet me correctly before breakfast and now I don’t know if I can eat. Before watching your pod, I would’ve felt very ashamed of being sad. But now I know that it’s okay to express my emotions whenever and for whatever reason.
My seasonal depression is also kicking my ass. Thanks for making this podcast. It helps when you’re feeling awful to talk to people/hear stories that relate but hard to reach out to friends to talk. Good luck boys
I have also been the sleep bandit lately, I’m just allowing myself to sleep when my body needs it & I’ve felt so much better mentally honestly but I’m sleeping a LOT
I think it’s so impressive that you got me, a person who knows nothing about basketball and has no interest in it, to be so invested in Basketball Game aka Not The Game of Basketball
i used to work at a company that was owned by the guy who owned the cavs when "the decision" was made. he allegedly sent the most angry boomer-iest email to the entire company in comic sans about it
I tried the orange peel theory just like asking my partner if they would peel an orange for me hypothetically and they were like "yeah sure" and then a few minutes later they were like "babe where's the orange you need me to peel?" i love my himbo 😭😭
The entire response to hoe math consisted of playing less a second of the clip and then spending 5 minutes yelling "WOW HE IS BUMB AND WRONG". and never even arguing any points he is making.
@@franklinbadge1215 There's mountains of evidence behind the things he's saying. They spent forever making fun of dark triad traits, but there's plenty of evidence for their allure.
Makes me sad that he could use that as a platform to talk about toxic relationships, because SOME people do act like that, but acting like women are all or even mostly like that and therefore means women are shite is of course a problem.
@@gurgleblurgle7345he never says women are shit. Why lie? He is just trying to create a guide to general behavior between men and women in dating. He even gives advice on how to tell if a guy is just using you (ie saying things like 'I don't really know where ill be in 3 weeks') as a means to string you along.
yk im a very big fan of the little sleep segment at the beginning of the episode, I'm 15 and i just recently started really improving my sleep schedule and its honestly nice to hear! ive been a fan of jordan for a while and (i think?) we're both bipolar and this was a little parasocial bond boost LOL
I’ve watched the intro and different parts of the first quarter of the video every day. I keep falling asleep, dog tired, in bed under the blankets and heat blanket. It’s been a long week and it’s only Tuesday. Maybe by the weekend I’ll hear the whole thing. So cozy. So happy. Drifting off to sleep. Good night 😴
@@The.Harsh.Truthssir this is a TH-cam comment section. Appealing to logical fallacies doesn’t actually help you. You’re not in a formal debate you’re talking to people in a colloquial context.
Low value man telling each other that facts that contradict their feelings are misogyny, please keep being that way so that there are more women for us 😊😊😊
this is one of my favorite episodes to re-listen to. anastasia has such a good rapport and chemistry with the boyz and i would love more episodes with anastasia segments
It's a good thing these guys are impossible to take seriously. So nice of them to advertise how little you should value their opinions on their upper lips like that.
What's so crazy is I spent so much time with people who thought like the h-math guy that i can arrest that is actually an accurate representation of the incel logic
@@the_Royal_Crow it's easier to understand the underlying (false) logic when you realize that they don't view anyone other than the people who fit in with them as real people. Everyone else is basically a stat sheet on a NPc with predetermined behaviour. You also have to recognize that to them sex isnt about sharing intimacy or pleasure it's about power/high score. So it's basically them going at all relationships like farming for good drops.
@@horticulturalist7818or alternate they are viewing it way to literally and you are viewing it not literally enough. Attraction is absolutely about 'scores' its just hard to actually pin those down. Any guy who has been on online dating knows how the average dude is seen.
The sword part is a sword lesbian thing and i will not elaborate as i dont want to reveal our secrets For more inquiries watch recolutionary girl utena
I'm glad Jordan got to sleep well! I finally got decent sleep after years of not knowing what it was because last night, i used my new cpap machine for the first time and breathed normally most of the night! Went from like 32 events per hour to 4.7 lmao. Congrats on the sleep, Jordan!
Love that Anastasia immediately integrated into the bisexual seating position scheme
so nice of anastasia to let jarvis and jordan on her podcast!
Their* they use they/them pronouns (:
@@traditionalnativewait didn’t they call them a girl though?
@@shrinebow.pronouns don’t refer to gender in that way. Someone can identify as a girl or present as feminine but their preferred pronouns are simply that. I see them as gender expression almost , so neutral, masc, fem..
@@secureviolet4328 oh thanks :)
@@shrinebow.lil late to this but of course :)
Jordan's slow break after "vicarriagely" was wonderful. It was like six stages of grief for a pun.
I was losing it with him while the other two kept taking. It was like a grenade went off and I couldn’t hear anything else other than the echo of “vicarriagely”😂
Oh man! I’m so excited to get to this!!
He made an extra stage of grief because that’s how devastated he was
how am i supposed to live a peaceful life now that jarvis has implanted to phrase "horse is the basketball of the summer" into my psyche
I have yet to get to that part of the podcast yet. But thank you for making me snort laugh 😂🤣🤣
Edit: Timestamp 38:46
The Woman in the sword video is Momo O'Brien, she is amazing! Her youtube channel is about immersive experiences (Theme parks, larp, interactive plays, themed fairs, etc) is one of my favorite youtube channels of all times!!!
Also she talks a lot about fantasy content and play a lot of characters over her social media... so yeah she was not being realistic, she was playing into the dark fantasy romance fandom stereotypes.
agreed! things can be very attractive in specific roleplay scenarios, and yet obviously she is not talking about all women wanting that to happen in real life, but simply a trope that a lot of women who are into fantasy tend to enjoy.
Yeah she's just being silly and hyperbolic but he's making it into some big argument. Like dude, she's just into roleplay, why are you making it into a thing.
And I’m ONLY commenting to defend Momo but she also said all “we” want- so it’s not even clear if she was talking about all women or just larp players or her friend group- like it’s splitting hairs but it doesn’t seem like she was trying to represent more than a small community
And this freak just stands in the corner heavily breathing and clutching his crayolas
So glad others were here to say this since I haven't watched her in a bit but nothing more immediately put me on team "Fuck This Guy" than seeing he stitched her. I'm so glad they all quite quickly recognized her schtick and it being a fun little bit. I bet they'd even love some of her videos, they're absolutely oozing with genuine passion and love for that craft.
I have to say that the friendship between Jarvis and Jordan is my favorite thing. It’s such a genuine connection, and the mutual respect and platonic affection always shines through. It’s a great way to model adult relationships between men! I know it’s good for all people, but girls are besties online all the time, I don’t see this level of friendship all the time with men! Thanks for showing us this!!
jordan on the thumbnail today !?
Not for long😢
Glad to see him there
We have been blessed
Quite the treat :)
Jarvis showed up in my next up tho while I was waiting for an ad
The chart guy would be absolutely adorable if he dedicated this passion to anything other than misogyny. Imagine these little charts, but for gundams or something
😢 a chart like that for gundam would be so cool now I’m actually sad cause of that thought
You aren’t using the word misogyny correctly. This guy actually bashes men in his videos all the time.
@@The.Harsh.Truths chart guy?
@@The.Harsh.Truths that doesn't make him not a misogynist lmfao clown take
@@The.Harsh.Truths oh, of course you're redefining misogyny, I just saw your other comments simping for the misogynist. Settle down little guy, he's not gonna kiss you.
we should really move the wiki to something other than fandom because of the current boycotting of fandom for being horrendous
what’s up with fandom? or where can i find accurate info on that?
just a really bad company in general the website has a horrible user experience especially on mobile where the entire screen is covered in adds far more than needed to run a website of fandoms size and on top of that the site has bad moderation with the site and its mod team doing everything in their power to stop wikis from moving to better sites. also fandom allows anyone to edit pages which causes plenty misinformation on the topic of the wiki also the site doesn't do anything the fact check info that is put on the site or if the info is found to be wrong the don't fix the errors
@@reckless_herb
@@reckless_herbjust some horribly bad platform management and gross misuse of the platform for advertisement. They defaced a bunch of wikis into a major brand ad campaign, are weird about taking down defunct wikis or supporting more well-made wikis on the same topic, and have tanked the site’s performance with an overabundance of ads and auto-playing videos. That’s what I personally remember, but I’m sure there’s more.
@@reckless_herbHollow Knight youtuber "mossbag" has a really good video on fandom in a general context and how it has fucked up several wikis, has taken dubious actions and overall has poor management. There is also another video on censorship from an editor on the Fear and Hunger wiki but I don't remember the channel name
@@bronze1557 mmm thanks!! i’ve used it often but hadn’t heard anything bad about it until now. appreciate you pointing me in the right direction :)
Finally, my math degree comes in handy. Time to grab my crayons and become a misogynist
I wanted to say brand new sentence.. but sadly it's probably not.
his mummy needs to take his crayons away and force him to take a shower
You aren’t using the word misogynist correctly, but I hope using it to describe anyone that has a criticism for women is getting you laid.
LMAFOOOO
I mean, hey, that's one way to put that math degree to use and make some money, right? :')
RIP "Howdy" Gone but never forgotten.
Looking forward to Jordan coming out fully in a cowboy costume on the first day of summer.
So long...partner🐴
“Matt Mercer corrupted by necromancy” is such a beautiful way of putting it
It made me cackle
Free this man from the throes of misogyny and let him follow his real hobby: making charts
Bro coulda been Aristótels student helping him chart stars but nooooo he wanted to be a 21 century misogyny charter instead
What is “misogyny” to you people even?
honestly
@@spelcheak Holding women accountable at any time, for anything.
@@spelcheak A terminally online dipstick psychoanalyzing a woman that does LARP/interactive stuff for being cheeky about a dark fantasy trope feels like a weird thing to go "what is misogyny to you people" about.
The segment with Anastasia was so fun, I loved her energy!! Hopefully shes in more episodes in the future :)
I would not be mad if the show slowly turned into sad boyz and Anastasia
Jordan has convinced me to start using “RATS” as an expletive. It’s SO FUNNY in a ridiculous way and I’m kind of over saying fck and sht
I've taken to saying "curses!" like an old time movie villain
I'm a big fan of phrases like "Blast it!" and "scorn and lamentations"
Getting poetic and weird with your language makes it hit way harder.
Gadzooks!
Darn it all to heck!
I’ve started saying “ah beans”
i’m more of a ‘shucks’ girl myself
honestly you guys should book some audiobook gigs and use your soft voices cuz it was super calming.
💯 would listen to “fake basketball game golf style commentary to fall asleep to” every night
@@rileylynn5815 dude!!!! Yes!!
Jarvis’ soft spoken voice during the golf bit was actually so calming. I need a Jarvis soft spoken asmr vid bro
Right? It was a joke but my brain immediately started to shut down into sleep mode lol
Poorly aged white ♀️
@@vklnew9824what an odd thing to say
u guys always upload whenever i'm crying. thank u so much
Hoping your day brightens up love 💜
@@spokeinlilacthank u💓
🩵 hope you’re feeling better
They’re in your walls 👁️👄👁️
same, we're in this together
Bro, I don't f*ck and I can understand that liking something in fiction isn't the same as liking something in real life. Misogynists either want to justify their behavior or they don't want to put in the effort to humanize the people they want to spend the rest of their lives with.
pretty much its like when they come up to girls and women and say oh you're a feminist? so I can punch you? I can hit you and beat the cr*p out of you? like they're actually frothing at the mouth with excitement at the idea of hurting women its actually insane
I suspect that all the misogynists who fixate on womens fictional fantasies are covert hypocrites and all it’d take is someone leaking a list of their most frequented p*rnhub categories and they’d be real quick to insist there’s no correlation between fictional consumption and one’s actual sexuality proclivities.
Your face needs to touch concrete
@@vklnew9824 what’s wrong dude
@@anarmadillowithagunhis 13 year old girlfriend dumped him for a Chad
As a neurodivergent person, these charts are highly ND my dude. It’s sad because I can see the appeal if you’re a young ND person looking to provide structure to what can feel like a chaotic and unfriendly world. Feels exploitative, in a way
It feels like it preys on young ND men specifically, pretending to explain the world that is often confusing with misogyny dressed up in charts that appeal to people looking for logic in an illogical world.
THISS. I was previously subscribed to this guy after seeing one video and I thought, huh, that is like math but cool. But upon watching his ick video, I realised that he's not a great guy after all and unsubbed. You're so right on how this can be exploitative to younger neurodivergent individuals. I'm old enough to form opinions of my own, and even I almost got hooked into his bullshit.
yeah as an ND person can confirm that i have made charts to try to understand social relationships before lol. it’s sad that he’s using that to be a misogynist bc i agree i see the appeal and how it could be exploitative
Yeah. He's wearing his autistic tendencies on his sleeve. Black and white thinking, taking everything literally, obsessively trying to sort facts into his own little charts and graphs. And it's going to have an appeal to other guys who have the same problems as him. It's really, really sad. Perpetrator AND victim.
I highly suspect I'm ND and I am just listening to this as something to sleep to. I am curious to see if I form the same opinion and what that means to me.
as a certified freak: Just because I want to roleplay it, does not mean I actually want to have someone do it to me for real. Half the reason I have a fetish like that to begin with is because I'm reclaiming a story from my trauma. It gives me _control_ of my narrative. Taking that control out of the equation is only going to traumatise me more.
Yeah, there are plenty of people who have, for example, a non-consent kink that they play out in a safe environment with their partner. That doesn't mean they want the real thing to happen to them.
That's the scary thing about dudes like this - they can't separate the fantasy from someone's actual desires.
Like, the entire point of role play is that you don’t have to worry about what the consequences would be if the scenario is real. I don’t think every person turned on by maid costumes actually wants to harass or assault their employees, but there’s something exciting about the scenario for lots and lots of people.
There’s always more to dig into, but usually the entire POINT is to have something and not let it be that deep
Taught my 8th graders about logical fallacies today in class… I think this dude hit them all.
Poorly aged white ♀️
@@vklnew9824girl what 😭
@@purpleofallpurple5542 They're spamming this and other immature junk in the comments. I think it needs attention.
@@vklnew9824did you get the attention you wanted? Feel better now?
Jarvis' hyperfixation on basketball and trying to quiz your knowledge is so real!
My hyperfixation is bratz dolls and I am in a reddit group where people ask for ID on a doll and it just feels so good when I know who it is!
Hating women with math is cringe.
Hating math with women is where it's at!
so true
let's hope there's no multiplying!
Goddamn right brother
first of all how dare you
Fuck you math is fire.
This post was sent by the Math Multitude.
I know y'all have a lot of young fans and I love seeing you break down sexist theory this way. I think that's really valuable (and very entertaining)
It has been helpful for me in this case because I couldn’t really express what felt icky about the hoe math guy when I saw one clip of him, and watching them discuss him helped me understand/pinpoint it better.
Im a woman and i hate math and myself so its okay
Was just about to comment this
Ahaaaa don't say that babe ur so y=mx+b 🤤 (satire I'm sorry)
Y'all 😂 my people lmfao
love u
::double negative::
This man doesn't understand the inherent eroticism of swordfights. Smh
is anyone else confused by the Jarvis-only thumbnails? before I started watching last week's I genuinely thought it might be a Jarvis solo episode lmao
I had the same thought recently
but we have been redeemed
Who cares it's a thumbnail
I’m pretty sure it’s bc Jarvis has a larger fan base so it’ll bring more of his fans in
Yeah sometimes it confuses me and I think it's just a Jarvis video on his channel until I see it's two hours long and had sad boyz in the title. I don't mind though, I imagine it gets more clicks.
When they did the Skibbidi Toilet ep with Rhett, I mistook Skibbidi (or something?) for a goofily photoshopped Jordan and it took weeks before I realized my misunderstanding 😂
Bugs Bunny's government name is, apparently, George Washington Bunny. So that's. Fine.
The guy you reacted to is really just “guy who has only ever played d&d with his misogynist friends.”
The fact that the girl in the “SWORD” video is quite literally a LARPer is insane. Just like. Click on her page dude she is not being for real. Like. She actually plays swords and princesses she is a dress up girlie.
Yeah, I took this as a reference to a trope in fantasy, particularly those with renaissance or medieval aesthetics
It's good that someone is finally teaching men how to hate women through math. Previously if I wanted to hate women because of fake toughness I could watch Andrew Tate. If I wanted to hate women because of fake psychology I could watch Jordan Peterson. But who was I supposed to watch if I wanted to hate women because of fake math? Finally someone holds the absolutely necessary position of Master Math Misogynist, truly neither the hero we need or the hero we deserve.
Hating women through fake physics inbound.
i am horrified by the guy using Game of Thrones to prove his point, referencing a scene where two Dothraki men fight over the right to SA a woman, and implying that Daenerys "likes" this even though the show depicts her as being SAd by Drogo (and in the book she's THIRTEEN). That is so many red flags in one analogy
Oh my god, that's so much worse than I thought! I've never read the books or watched the show, so I thought it was bad enough that he used a series written by a man as an example of what women want (along with what context he did provide). Knowing the actual context is so important!
Also I never really got into GoT but from the bits and pieces pop culture has squeezed into my brain without me even trying, I'm pretty sure she was scared and unhappy the whole time and then there was some stockholm stuff going on. GoT is screwed up on purpose, the whole story seems to be almost a "How many messed up things can I do to these characters before they die or go insane?" competition, so using it as a guide on acceptable relationships is pretty funny, in a concerning way.
@@mayaenglish5424I think in the books she was not raped by drogo and he waited until she wanted to have sex. But she was really young at the time as is the case with all characters in GOT
@@anjalik1136 Yes but "waiting until someone wants to" when the outcome is inevitable and they don't really have a choice isn't actually consent.
Speaking as an autistic person, this chart has a potent aura of “I’m the worst kind of autistic man who never got the support to learn that modelling other people as flowcharts will always be an inaccurate model”
Abed does that in Community and you better believe hijinks ensue
This whole tik tok could be used as a diagnostic.
that explains the behaviour.
but does not excuse it when it affects other people negatively like this.
Hence OP describing him as "the worst kind of autistic man" 😅
Oh wow, I’m glad you pointed that out. I made mental flow charts for small talk and it was quite satisfying to feel like I’d “cracked the code”. For deeper stuff, like with friends, I have more of like a “protocol”; I’ve learned what kinds of questions to ask depending on what that person seems to want out of the interaction, like if it’s a friend grappling with a difficult decision. Even then I’m lost a lot, but learning to ask open-ended questions was a game changer for me and it’s made me a helpful friend from time to time.
So I get the chart-making. But this guy seems to have motivated reasoning. I’ve seen this a lot with incels/redpillers, they’ll superimpose the *aesthetic* of reason onto a deep-seated anger that stems from some experience or ideology that’s not meaningfully related.
This is typical nice-guy shit. “Women just want assholes and it’s unfair that the supply of women is being hoarded by guys who don’t deserve such prizes.”
Even back in my sarcastic edgy teenager days I used to say that some men think women are blowjob robots, just press the right buttons in the right order and sex will be dispensed
I've been so conditioned with Jarvis thumbnails a rare shiny Jordan thumbnail made me instantly click
Its a jarvis thumbnail for me :(.. (I love Jarvis he's my bestie but I wanted a rare Jordan thumbnail vid too, he's my bbgirl)
@@kishinumaayumisounds very parasocial of you
@@chanyanyanya SO REAL they're my besties we wiggle our feet and talk about our day everynight on discord video calls (/j)
Jarvis, I saw you were on watcher!! it was so cool to see you collaborate with another one of my favorite creators!!
this guy should get into dnd i think he would like making maps
wild to both evoke Christian imagery and “REPENT” in the same notebook u keep your lust diagrams
Insomnia is a city in Final Fantasy 15!!! which is obviously different from a ff7 attack but it's fun that you guys said "Insomnia" and "Final Fantasy" in the same sentence! I am normal about this video game 👍🏼
37:15 Wisdom from my Horse Girl days: that type of horse racing is called harness racing. The "carriage" is called a sulky. In harness racing, the horse does not gallop, it either trots (the two-beat gait where the horse's diagonal legs move together) or paces (a special two-beat gait that only certain horses can do, where the legs on the same side of the horse move together.) Sometimes trotting/pacing races happen with the jockey actually on the horse, but I think it's more common to do harness racing because the trot is famously uncomfortable to sit because it's so bouncy, probably even more so when the horses are going so fast. The breed of horse usually used in harness racing is called the Standardbred (in contrast with the breed of horse usually used in gallop races, the Thoroughbred.)
“Like to see some stuck-up jockey boy sittin’ on Dan Patch?” We had sulky racing at our fairgrounds during the summer in my childhood. Which was not quite concurrent with The Music Man.
R.I.P Howdy 😔
Forever in our hearts ❤
khwa pow (whip noise)
ITS SEASONAL!!!!
If Anastasia has zero fans, I am dead.
Get the shovel
Just joshing
The dark triad is actually a real psychology term. The three traits being referred to are seen in many abusive partners, friends and relatives, which makes it infuriating to see it being used incorrectly by someone who quite possibly would fit under that umbrella.
If he simply applied this to toxic relationships instead of assuming all women were like that, it would fix everything
@@gurgleblurgle7345Um that’s kinda the point a lot of women are attracted to these toxic men who have trauma and pass the trauma to other people attracted or see it the same, and yes you need some darker traits to attract women, NOT ALL of them.
@@enriqueperezarce5485No, dude grow up
@@enriqueperezarce5485 Source: I made it up
@@enriqueperezarce5485please go outside and meet real women
the dark triad is a very ableist (specifically saneist) concept that is based on the idea that people with personality disorders are evil, violent, toxic, and dangerous.
specifically, it frames people with antisocial & narcissistic personality disorder (and in general cluster b personality disorders) as threats who should be treated as something evil and almost subhuman. this is, you know, not true, and also a very violent stereotype.
it’s used as a justification for equating a group of mental illnesses with violence and abuse, basically. it’s gross as fuck.
Cluster b people are problematic random stranger
@@Jay7Rockauntreated mental illness/disorders is bad in general. cluster b or not, untreated people can be toxic and dangerous for a variety of reasons. like untreated ptsd can make vets terrible people to be around. that doesn’t mean they don’t deserve treatment and the opportunity to be a good person. most cluster b disorders are born from trauma, being traumatized doesn’t make you problematic. choosing to do nothing about it, does.
(i am not talking about people who literally cannot access help, that’s a different issue)
@@reckless_herbthe diagnostic criteria for cluster b personality disorders are definitionally problematic. Problematic behaviours are what makes cluster b cluster b
@@jbone877yes, that is the diagnostic criteria. but it’s problematic behavior, not a problematic person. a problematic person actively chooses to behave that way, i genuinely do not believe anyone would choose to have a cluster b disorder (if that was possible)
even minimal research shows that they heavily negatively affect the person with the disorder, just as much, if not more than the people around them.
a common discussion i’ve seen about narcissistic personality disorder specifically, is that narcissists don’t lack empathy, it’s that their trauma response trumps the empathy they have.
the issue is when people act like when someone is diagnosed with cluster b, there is no chance of them being good people or treating others well. its hard to treat cluster b, but it isn’t impossible. it takes hard work, and a lot of trial and error, but it can be done. it can drastically improve the person with the disorders life; also improving how they treat others.
it's true that folks in the cluster b category can be, and often are, "problematic", as you say. but does that mean they don't deserve empathy and respect? does having a "problematic" behavior pattern mean you'll be a bad person forever? should we hold people accountable for every action they've ever done in perpetuity, even if they do the work to minimize the harm their behavior causes?
this is the issue i have with framing cluster b in the way people often do. EVERYONE has room to grow and learn as a person, regardless of mental illness or lack thereof. so extending the same grace to everyone, regardless of what they've done is what i believe in, so long as they've made the choice and put in the effort to atone for it and take accountability.
if you are a victim of someone with a cluster b personality disorder, that is a different story, but it is your duty to judge the person-- not the disorder. it's up to you whether or not to forgive the individual if and when they seek help and get better, and it's absolutely okay to not let them into your lives ever again (and this should be known by them, too, because it's part of taking accountability) but you absolutely CANNOT frame the disorder itself as "problematic" because it contributes to stigma that makes people not reach out for help. which has the potential to create more victims.
I used to have friends like this podcast group about a decade ago. Sadly.
These types of people are extremely passive aggressive, low self worth, hate themselves and project it onto others and eachother.
They are an absolute nightmare to be around.
Friend groups like this give me the creeps. All is not what it seems. Seems like the obvious righteous path when you are younger, and also sort of edgy and cool and progressive.
Their politics is all about power redistribution, and enjoy the credit of being the morally righteous saviour that has the advocate role, and pretend like they are above power dynamics themselves.
Sounds great on the surface.
But they are actually the most** invested in power dynamics, and hierarchies.
Like, part of me freezes when I think back about how manipulative, fake, phony, betraying & self-justifying they were. The drama was muted but present and far more insidious than outright conflict because you were always being gaslit.
And even though they pretend to be anti-hierarchical, these groups are most definitely hierarchical.
For the most part they hate open conflict, they are afraid of it. Never understood that at the time because it didn’t appear so.
I’m writing this for the person out there like me who might be there now.
1) Jarvis your puns this ep are ON POINT. Incredible. 10/10
2) f.d. signifier mention?? Could he come on the pod??
fd signifier mention timestamp?
@@badger6882 Jordan mentions at around 2:19:30
I think i speak for everyone when i say the reisident woman is very entertaining and needs to appear on the pod more often
Speaking for all the women in their corners.
2:20:00 Jordan is exactly right. This es the exact reason I got into these kinds of guys when I was in my early teens. I didn’t really understand social cues and how to navigate interactions and people that presented “rules” I saw as very helpful and useful. It did make me a bit of a shithead because I would essentially blame people for not following rules they didn’t know existed but I at the time lacked the ability to navigate things without them.
They're not absolute rules, they're generalizations. Being aware of true generalizations can absolutely be helpful.
@@SmellyHam a big part of the issue is these people are making exact statements of “this is how things are. Things just are this way. Here’s how people work” etc they’re not “here’s how things tend to be or people usually react” etc. they’re hardline “this is the rule and if they break it they’re wrong actually” and the other issue is they’re usually not even accurate well considered points. It’s not true generalizations is rules for how I want things to work based off my narrow opinion of how the world should be.
I am quietly dying over the fact that Anastasia *has a lioness on her shirt* 😂
“Checkmate, human women are literally lions; confirmed!” - Chart Guy, probably
To give context on the dark triad, the biggest usage of this in mass culture is the diagnosis of serial killers. Personally, even that use I find weirdly fetishistic in the same way that people misunderstand the point of Patrick Bateman, where you’re supposed to hate him but it turns into a kind of admiration of him. Or the way that directors remark that it’s impossible to make a truly anti-war movie, in that even the most stark depictions of graphic violence serves the ends of positive propaganda.
In terms of manosphere stuff the general implication is kind of equivalent to the Jordan Peterson idea of femininity as derived from chaos. Women, in their chasing of and desiring of men, allegedly perform a kind of psychopathic value derivation of men and the social and economic status delivered to them as a result of the men they sleep with. Ironically, not so different from how many of the men who holds these beliefs think of women.
Regardless, the point is that the general conception is that even the most evil man does not hold a candle to the least evil woman. Womanhood is defined by its leading of men away from greatness and the desire to leech off of others. Unsurprisingly, this also becomes used in racial and nationalistic contexts.
I love it, it’s great, this is a super cool world we live in!!!
Such a sane planet
It's just psychological profiling, which has been long since deemed nonsense and shown to actually cause more harm than good.
found this guys content on youtube before; he was just talking abt phycology in a cool way so i looked at more of his content, but then the second i saw him start to talk about women it just switched to this really passive aggressive and bad faith argument and i was like "oh...."
A lot of women he stitches are making really broad and often incorrect statements themselves, but you arent helping anyone by only picking those people to react to, and using it to launch even more assumptions.
yeaaah i liked his video about levels of thinking and then he lost me with all the "woman wrong" content
same exact situation as me @@andrea-gp8qv
@@andrea-gp8qv FR i thought he was like that red flag guy and then I realised.. oh its just women he just doesnt like women LOL and then that attracts this awful audience 😭looking at the comments for one minute I saw the comment "Make up needs to be banned!" I shed a tear
@@tinsope4895so what about the many times he’s called out men on their problems and issues ? or are you just gonna disregard that cause it doesn’t support the agenda ?
@@Ihatescales.mp4of course they are. Women create content all the time about bad things men do in dating and generalize it to men. Second a man does it 'misogyny'.
Jordan looks well rested, and I'm excited for him. Congrats on that 9 hours, man! 🥳
the dark triad bs is just "women don't like me because I'm too nice, and women only like douchebags" but with more steps. It's SOOOO many words to say no one wants to ride him into the sunset cause he can't tell ren-fair from reality
In his new chart he replaced it with “light” and “dark” expressions of confidence.
i know bg3 is a popular game goty and all that but every time jordan mentions it im like holy shit he knows the thing i like thats crazyyyy
1:33:26 harnessing dark autism powers for spreading evil and chaos
cannot tell you how many times my partner and i referred to 'evil autism' while watching this. like if he were just drawing diagrams about lions and social dynamics instead of making it into weird misogyny there'd be no issue.
Truly love that Jarvis wears this shirt in every video, because I wear this shirt like every single day, so I'm always unintentionally wearing the shirt when the pods came out and then we match.
More Anastasia! She is a wonderful addition to the banter
Since my dog doesn’t have thumbs I am typing this comment for him while he dictates it to me.
Jarvis and Jordan, your podcast really speaks to me as a fellow very sad (dog) boy. It helps me feel better about being sad. Today I cried because my mom didn’t pet me correctly before breakfast and now I don’t know if I can eat. Before watching your pod, I would’ve felt very ashamed of being sad. But now I know that it’s okay to express my emotions whenever and for whatever reason.
Really appreciate y'all givung Anastasia a platform to voice their opinion on the subject
My seasonal depression is also kicking my ass. Thanks for making this podcast. It helps when you’re feeling awful to talk to people/hear stories that relate but hard to reach out to friends to talk. Good luck boys
I have also been the sleep bandit lately, I’m just allowing myself to sleep when my body needs it & I’ve felt so much better mentally honestly but I’m sleeping a LOT
I love how Jordan broke on the slow burn of "vicarriagely".
I think it’s so impressive that you got me, a person who knows nothing about basketball and has no interest in it, to be so invested in Basketball Game aka Not The Game of Basketball
Game Time with Anastasia has to continue
Anastasia, honorary sad boy! Would love to see her again!
i used to work at a company that was owned by the guy who owned the cavs when "the decision" was made. he allegedly sent the most angry boomer-iest email to the entire company in comic sans about it
So glad our special guest was Anastasia today. She’s so cool
I THOUGHT Y'ALL WERE JOKING ABOUT THE COLORED-PENCIL CHARTS. Is bro ten???
I tried the orange peel theory just like asking my partner if they would peel an orange for me hypothetically and they were like "yeah sure" and then a few minutes later they were like "babe where's the orange you need me to peel?" i love my himbo 😭😭
The bottles and cans at the bottom of the frame are like a little audience-MST3K style.
I want a Jarvis and Jordan ASMR Chanel. They could call it Soft Boyz.
Hehe
The entire response to hoe math consisted of playing less a second of the clip and then spending 5 minutes yelling "WOW HE IS BUMB AND WRONG". and never even arguing any points he is making.
When hoe math presents arguments without evidence, they can be dismissed without evidence
@@franklinbadge1215 There's mountains of evidence behind the things he's saying. They spent forever making fun of dark triad traits, but there's plenty of evidence for their allure.
Yeah I haven’t found anything they could specifically dispute except saying things are jokes. Not very good evidence
Holy shit the chart guy is a literal nightmare. How is he so wrong and confident at the same time, it's incredible to behold
Makes me sad that he could use that as a platform to talk about toxic relationships, because SOME people do act like that, but acting like women are all or even mostly like that and therefore means women are shite is of course a problem.
@@gurgleblurgle7345he never says women are shit. Why lie? He is just trying to create a guide to general behavior between men and women in dating. He even gives advice on how to tell if a guy is just using you (ie saying things like 'I don't really know where ill be in 3 weeks') as a means to string you along.
Lmao that guy did not understand the concept of enemies to lovers
Billy Mitchell's mother is very proud
Not as proud as Tommy Tallarico’s.
I love finding this reference in different corners of the internet 😂
that’s what i was thinking. it’s tommy talarico behaviour for sure…
Genuinely loved seeing so much of Anastasia, she was so fun
This isn’t hating women. This is criticizing poor choices and bad behavior. It just so happens these things are being done by women.
This man is not even doing math, where are the numbers?
I think what you’re searching for is the midwestern ope, it’s a classic and can be used to say hey, sorry, express mild shock, among others.
yk im a very big fan of the little sleep segment at the beginning of the episode, I'm 15 and i just recently started really improving my sleep schedule and its honestly nice to hear! ive been a fan of jordan for a while and (i think?) we're both bipolar and this was a little parasocial bond boost LOL
this is dennis from always sunny with the D.E.N.N.I.S system
Ok just have to say I LOVE how the captions are done on this video!! Thank you!!
I’ve watched the intro and different parts of the first quarter of the video every day. I keep falling asleep, dog tired, in bed under the blankets and heat blanket. It’s been a long week and it’s only Tuesday. Maybe by the weekend I’ll hear the whole thing.
So cozy. So happy. Drifting off to sleep.
Good night 😴
I love how you can tell the math guy has never actually spoken to a woman and is making up excuses as to why he doesnt get any women hahah
Just deep cleaned my entire apartment and did all my laundry during this. Thank you for the long video
He talks an awful lot about how men should physically fight over women for a man who would get beaten up by a middle schooler.
He’s actually really tall and jacked. You probably shouldn’t make false assumptions.
@@The.Harsh.Truths damn you're down so bad for him
@@Jane-oz7pp ad hominem. Is what I said true or not?
@KathrynElizabeth-uz8hi and how do you know that?
@@The.Harsh.Truthssir this is a TH-cam comment section. Appealing to logical fallacies doesn’t actually help you. You’re not in a formal debate you’re talking to people in a colloquial context.
18:41 hey i was one of the three jacob fanarts! now i know yall saw it! yay!
Love this episode. Anastasia is a great addition to the boyz!
Low value man telling each other that facts that contradict their feelings are misogyny, please keep being that way so that there are more women for us 😊😊😊
And are these women in the room with you right now?
lets gooo happy friday it's sadboyz time
The idea of a basketball commentator just going "yeah, this game's a little too loud for me, I'm gonna go" is hilarious actually
🚶♂️ 🗣🗣🗣🗣
the charts are so autism coded, especially when he said he made them right angles because they're his favorite
this is one of my favorite episodes to re-listen to. anastasia has such a good rapport and chemistry with the boyz and i would love more episodes with anastasia segments
Before they zoomed in I thought that “accountability” said “accounting” and my immediate thought was like, “yeah, I kind of get it.”
It's a good thing these guys are impossible to take seriously. So nice of them to advertise how little you should value their opinions on their upper lips like that.
What's so crazy is I spent so much time with people who thought like the h-math guy that i can arrest that is actually an accurate representation of the incel logic
That is wild, how do they even navigate any of it? Just watching this guy felt like he was explaining Kingdom hearts lore.
@@the_Royal_Crow it's easier to understand the underlying (false) logic when you realize that they don't view anyone other than the people who fit in with them as real people. Everyone else is basically a stat sheet on a NPc with predetermined behaviour. You also have to recognize that to them sex isnt about sharing intimacy or pleasure it's about power/high score. So it's basically them going at all relationships like farming for good drops.
@@horticulturalist7818or alternate they are viewing it way to literally and you are viewing it not literally enough. Attraction is absolutely about 'scores' its just hard to actually pin those down. Any guy who has been on online dating knows how the average dude is seen.
hi sad boyz. you sold me ice cream in my dream last night. please don't do that again it was scary
Inside you there are two wolves.
One who snores “honk shoe honk shoe” and one who snores “honk mimimimi”
The sword part is a sword lesbian thing and i will not elaborate as i dont want to reveal our secrets
For more inquiries watch recolutionary girl utena
@KathrynElizabeth-uz8hi definitely
I'm glad Jordan got to sleep well! I finally got decent sleep after years of not knowing what it was because last night, i used my new cpap machine for the first time and breathed normally most of the night! Went from like 32 events per hour to 4.7 lmao. Congrats on the sleep, Jordan!
When Jordan's first question came up I laughed way too loud in public with headphones on. So thanks for that.