Yeah, I don't know where she would have ended up going with that line of conversation, whether it's pushing gender 'norms', putting a kid on the spot, the kids parent on the spot, or whatever. Glad that Celine just nipped that in the bud with justified anger.
It's like people saying people were trying to cancel Dave Chappelle 😂😂. This dude walked away from a huge deal years ago and when he came back, he still had a fanbase, plus new viewers (like me, I only heard of him in 2022, despite seeing him in Nutty professor 😅). How can trans people cancel him 😂? These people are literally the least populous demographic. "I'm rich, bish", even if he's kicked out of show biz, he'll be fine 🤦🏾♀️. It's poor people like us being mad on their behalf that's the craziest thing 😮
I'm sick of people using their "cancellation" as their redemption arc... Like they are sooo brave and heroic for not giving up when everyone wants them to for very valid reasons.
If I were her I would’ve completely ignored the drama altogether and just dropped the comedy special without even mentioning it. Reminding people why they hate you is never a good idea.
As an autistic person, the 'everyone's on the spectrum' thing is incredibly frustrating. It's not a spectrum of 'not autistic' to 'autistic. It's more a case of 'if you are autistic, there is a spectrum of behaviours, experiences and support needs'
Every autistic person I've worked or been friends with are NEVER mean. They work extremely hard at relationships and work and would die if they thought they had offended someone. Ellen was sooo wrong to say this.
@@claireconolly8355 Thank you. I know a LOT of autistic people, and we're all just trying our best (not to say that autistic people never suck, we're all human and some humans are just garbage, but it's absolutely not an excuse for that). Usually, if we upset or offend people, it's because we've missed nonverbal cues and/or talked about a topic we didn't know was inappropriate. The fact she used it as a shield for criticism is so frustrating, because the vast majority of us get the third degree for so much more minor things and nobody cuts us a break
@@claireconolly8355there are plenty of autistic people that suck.. but that's because there are plenty of people that suck in general! we are not at all immune to being shitty (because we are just human beings), but it's also definitely not a defining factor of being autistic. For some people, part of their social struggles is not understanding cues of when other people think you've said something rude or offensive. Sure that's true, but not every autistic person struggles with that very much. Usually it is also not intentional, people are taught that honesty is the best policy but the only people who seem to really take that to heart are occasionally children, and autistic people who tend to take things literally and at face value.
As someone who's most likely not autistic, I also hate it. Like, no?? I am not also "part of the spectrum", I don't live my life with any difficulties from being discriminated against, having society push you down, having your own body stop you. Why are we treating autism like this? It's not just a little bit of spice that everyone has, it's a lot more than that, and when people say this it feels so wrong, like my existence is being used to tell autistic people to toughen up or whatever else.
Hear hear!! :D Though I wonder what would happen if some crew member pranked her back. Probably the two of them would have a really good laugh, and create a fun work day for all! (not)
This is exactly what I have been thinking about today. Nothing is really funny anymore and only about gender, pronouns or depending on which side you are on about how everbody non-lgbt is a bad person or how lgbt people are literally the devil here to destroy society. Very exhausting and not funny.
This is precisely how parents of adult children who have gone no contact, respond. They won't tell you the details of what their child actually told them, and will fixate on generalized terminology that self victimizes, and repeat it over and over.
She keeps using the word "mean" because it's a much more digestible word than "abusive". And it's not just her employees. Her late ex girlfriend Anne Heche said that Ellen tried to keep her isolated and told her that she didn't "want a girlfriend who needs friends". She's always been this way.
Sure Ellen, it’s the gender roles. That’s what it is. That’s what it was when you tried to goad Mariah Carey into announcing her pregnancy too early. Or every experience with Dakota Johnson. Or slut shaming Taylor Swift. Or making fun of Sofia Vergara’s accent. All classic things that women get blamed for all the time.
women are hateful in general. I was raised by my father my mom died when I was a kid. Im over it. Im an adult now who happens to work around other women what a fucking headache, and I a woman lol.
@@annacobb1140 yeah honestly everybody can do what they want but this celebrity bias has got to stop. her audience is allowed to dislike her and choose to not interact, her employees can publicly shame her, and the narrative around her shouldn't be "comeback" but "disgraced comedian in her flop era fails at dramatic self-victimizing return"
yet they weren't even given a chance to show up for themselves and now she can not everywhere cares about 100 places reporting the same thing.. allow grace
@@beebeedeeieEllen had 20 years of grace. The fact she refuses to change and continually blames others around her for her own shortcomings can only be forgiven so many times. She can only be the mean girl so many times before people stop giving her attention or forgiveness.
I genuinely hoped she was gonna say "I can see how that was wrong" instead of "I can see how that was misinterpreted" like girl you're full on victim blaming 😭😭😭
I remember a clip making the rounds from her show where she had a member of her crew go through a haunted house for their Halloween show. It was funny the first few seconds, until I realized the intern or whatever had a legit phobia about horror movies and Ellen made her do this anyway. Then I just felt like an accomplice and couldn't finish it.
The way Ellen talks about getting "kicked out of showbiz" makes me think of a mom whose kids went no contact with her bc of her abuse, who then goes and tells her friends "my kids ABANDONED me because they think I'm MEAN 😢".
That is 100% I think where so much of her abusive behavior is sorted, in that same kind of passive aggressive tone that a lot of women perfect because they want to straight up be aggressive but women aren't allowed to do that
That's my mother. Even though she wants us to be honest with her..the moment we are she's the worst mom ever and is yelling?! Say whaaa? 😂 And totally Ellen! 😂❤
My jaw dropped when I saw the clips of Ellen making Mariah Carey drink the champagne and what she did to the audience member that took more than one item off the merch table. And all the other clips of her being "kind"
as someone who has diagnosed autism, yes it is weird for her to say that. especially for someone who has adhd and ocd, she should understand that those things are genuinely hard to live with. i hope that makes sense. it’s kind of like her saying “we all have issues so yours aren’t that bad”
I also have diagnosed autism, and it is so weird for her to say that. You either have autism or you don't. You're only on the spectrum if you are autistic, so everyone is indeed not a little bit autistic. *Insert exasperated sigh*
@@melissaskinner2199If everyone was autistic you’d figure nobody would be, yknow the neurotypicals trying to demean/diminish our struggles always hurts
As a psychiatrist, people self-diagnosing OCD makes my teeth itch. OCD Is very often a destructive, debilitating illness. It’s not cute or cool. It’s extremely painful to the sufferers. Not treating it seriously is very distressing to me.
Right? And it sucks because I know those “Omg Imm so OCD I line up my pens on my desk hahaha” types would probably be weirded out if they heard the intrusive thoughts that come with OCD. Like it’s a disorder, it’s not fun to have
My favorite prank is these guys who, when stopped at a red light, gesture to the person next to them to roll their window down and then when the person does, they just roll their own window back up. It’s stupid and silly and everyone laughs then goes about their day
i had forgotten about her until a few weeks back when scrolling shorts and seeing her try to advertise her shitty mobile app lol. i think it’s just merge mansion but slightly rebranded around herself. the ads always start with her telling you to download it and i instantly just get annoyed by her voice.
that clip of taylor swift literally screaming at ellen to stop always catches me off guard even when i know it's coming. i don't even like taylor swift but in that moment, she feels like a kid that's just completely overwhelmed and overstimulated. like why would you ever do that to someone ever??? ellen is so insensitive and rude
she was a kid being slut shamed by a much older woman. let's point THAT out. ellen was actively slut shaming taylor with her supposed "many boyfriends" (half which weren't even someone she dated, just someone she'd been casually friends with), which let to taylor to cry and beg for ellen to stop. people forget how fuckin HORRIBLE the slut shaming towards taylor was.
If I felt my words were at all leading someone to react that negatively even if I didn't get why, I'd back off. Like you said, it felt like she regressed into an overstimulated child, and that's not a knock on her because doing that to someone asking you to stop in front of the whole world is not polite conversation. I felt guilty and I wasn't there.
As a medical neuroscience grad student, you will NEVER hear any of us saying people studying animal behavior, no matter what that is, should quit and do something else. Let alone a whole other science field. Ellen isn't just disrespectful, she's clueless. Thanks for the support D'Angelo, we appreciate you
On top of everything else, we actually don't need more climate scientists. Because we already have solutions for everything. Solutions that politicians refuse to implement. All the research today is going into "okay we 100% have a solution to this, but let's find one that's easier and more fun/marketable."
or, you know, literal billionaires worrying about 'loosing money' as if they aren't so astronomically out of touch that they think going to mars is better than actually preserving the earth.
Yeah D'Angelo hit it right away with "you could put those 20 million to help with climate change" what the climate change crisis needs is some serious funding
We already have the answers, they just don't benefit shareholders so corporations and governments are choosing to let us slowly ruin the only planet we have to live on. Yay capitalism! 😬
Ellen was wrong for saying that; please don't take it to heart. The autistic people I know are honest, earnest, and generous - I'd never associate "cruel" with autism.
Mmhmm! I have an ex who came across as rude/insensitive and he was learned to be autistic later. It was the special interests, unique problem solving, and little details that I found freaking adorable and brought the thought towards autism, not the insensitivity. The insensitivity pointed to a severe level of childhood neglect. As soon as I explained how something might impact someone else he was immediately empathetic and worked on being more sensitive and regularly checked in with me on how someone might be feeling if he wasn't sure. He was not a cruel person and didn't enjoy people being in terror. And so kind to animals, we still maintain shared pets. This comment on Ellen's part was so inappropriate. She wants a get out of mistreating others free card and that is NOT what autism is. And I'm pissed at her for acting like that is what autism is. 😤🙄 This attitude is pissing horrifying.
Holy fuck _and_ she miscarried after? I wish cancel culture was real. The fact Ellen can come back and make millions on a stand up special is so busted.
@@3amDayDreamer don't look up the clip where Ellen scares Taylor with a sea urchin. it's not f*cking funny, she's got perfectly good reason to be scared of them and Ellen basically put one right in her face. sick twisted behavior
As an autistic person I can’t stand it when people say “everyone is on the spectrum” or “everyone is a little autistic”. If that was true, we would live in a sensory friendly, quiet and understanding world which was adapted to prevent autistic people from being overwhelmed by the sensory hell that is outside.
as an autistic person, I'm gonna need all autistics and non-autistics alike to stop talking about a literal disability as if it's just "bad social skills" or "low IQ."
Exactly! Ellen has never been a girly girl or very feminine in terms of how she dresses-and that’s fine because that’s her preference-, yet she thinks it ok to question a boy with long hair?
Right? Everyone judged me, also, let me judge you and your kid. I would have said, if he were a girl would you ask me that question? Boys can have long hair, Ellen.
I was bullied and ostracized by parental figures and students alike, struggled heavily academically due to lack of accommodations, suffer from dietary issues because there are so many foods I can’t make myself eat, and I struggle with mundane tasks most people can do easily that I am often shamed for by other people, but yeah sure Ellen everyone is a little autistic.
I've been wondering if I'm neurodivergent or just depressed. I have so many issues 🤦🏾♀️. I'll still never just say I'm a little autistic because I've not been diagnosed. And I'm so sick of people trying to generalize pain just to diminish how someone is feeling. It's like when my only sibling (brother 😢) died at 17 and my aunt (of all people 🤦🏾♀️) told me that everyone has lost someone because I dared to cry 2 months later 😮😮😮😮
I think people are taught that phrase as a way to relate to/understand autistic people better. I roll my eyes when I hear it but I also don't think it is indicative of a moral failing in the person who says it.
@@tamiausten873It's possible that your 'depression' is Major Depression, or another illness that causes Major Depression symptoms. No matter what, sounds like you've been traumatized and in grief. So you're probably not neurotypical, though I'm in no position to diagnose you. My condolences for your loss of your brother, and for your aunt's attitude towards your grief.
EXACTLY it's always either minimizing, or deflective dkjfghdk like "everyone's a little bit gay!" means either 1. you don't understand the fundamentals of another person's existence or 2. you have some things to discover about yourself mang
You're right about her autism comment. It's invalidating and NOT what it means when we say autism is a spectrum. It means that autism manifests in all sorts of ways in autistic people. It does NOT mean that everyone is a little autistic. Allistic people (non-autistic) can experience some of the same things, but it doesn't effect them in the same way if that makes sense?
exactly what i was thinking! it just sounds so much like people trivializing neurodivergency as just a quirky part of life, makes me think of when it was commonplace to say things like "don't we all have OCD sometimes"
i think she's trying to claim that she has a neurodivergent brain bc she has ocd and add but used the term 'on the spectrum' when I don't think that's ever been used for being neurodivergent
i agree it was a really out of place comment there. she doesnt have any sort of comprehension, just saw 'spectrum' and thought of a 'funny' bit to make out of it
@@museofthedamned you're right. "On the spectrum" is used in reference to specifically autism. She may be neurodivergent, but (as she admitted) she's not autistic. I agree that she just wanted to make a joke about it without really knowing what she's talking about.
That clip with Taylor is heartbreaking. She was about to full-on break down. The clip with Mariah is frustrating. There's a *reason* women keep health information to themselves (pregnancy is included in that). It's no one's business and Mariah *did not* owe Ellen or the world an explanation. The clip with Justin is violating. He was still a kid FFS! I already thought Celine was a badass. Now I respect her that much more. Same with Dakota Johnson.
Lolol ok I am sure not on ELLEN’s side here, but RELAX. TS is Fine. TRUST ME, she DOES NOT mind people speculating that she has dated every single guy, she loves it. She’s made a career of it. If people aren’t constantly talking about Taylor, she’ll die.
@@stevielove4778 except she (TS) literally said million timed that it did bother her and she hated this narration and the slut shaming when in reality she dated like 10 people in the span of many years. And also she is very back in the spotlight now in the last 3 years, but like she hid for a year after the kimye drama, and then in the years 2017-2021 she was still hinda not very active in terms of her media and public presence etc, not to mention she was with the same guy for 6 years sooo
@@stevielove4778like i get it, she has been absolutely everywhere for like 3 years now and it does get annoying, but you know, you can not like that and still acknowledge that she was at a receiving end of slut shaming for dating some people and writing songs about her life, which like most of the musicians who write their music do
"I was kicked out for being mean" no, honey, you were kicked out for lacking empathy and being objectively cruel and dismissive when you were presenting yourself as the epitome of sweet kind giving loving individuals.
@@taracarroll4218 one thing ellen did that REALLY pissed me off was she had Kathy Griffin on her show and told Kathy she was too mean and she should be nice to celebs. Now bear in mind, Kathy says she's had positive interactions with pretty much everyone she disses on a regular basis- in fact Martha Stewart & Oprah were giving Kathy dirt on Barbara Streisand for weird shit she did in their presence that was entitled and rude of Babs. Ellen said Kathy was too mean to Gwyneth Paltrow......Kathy's mean bc she's making jokes of Gwyneth but you're 'nice' telling your employees not to look at you? really shows how much Ellen values celebrity.
I am on the spectrum. Yeah it was kinda weird. Maybe it was out of context, but it felt like she was saying “oh maybe I’m mean because I’m autistic”. Like, can we maybe stop conflating the two and spreading the idea that autistic people are mean? Or trying to using it as an excuse? We’re useless with social cues, not actively malicious. And if you’re gonna joke about autism, at least make it funny!
It's a ploy to make people feel sorry for her -- that life is just, factually, harder for her because she's neurodiverse. Therefore she doesn't have to take responsibility for her ethics or choices
The funny thing is, Ellen has likely figured out how to parse and deal with neurotypical behavior given how far she's made it in comedy, TV, movies, etc., which means in her case she likely knows pretty well what behavior is considered rude/mean but actively chooses to ignore that knowledge. That is not an autistic trait. That is an Ellen trait
but also, being bad at communication also shouldn't automatically mean you have autism. like let's stop trying to get diagnosed with something so people can excuse their shitty behaviour away instead of taking accountability for it. People have real struggles and so many are trivializing it all because they think being neuro diverse is a get out of jail free card.
Using someone's phobia as a joke is beyond mean, it's sadistic. I am ichtyophobic, if my boss were to put fake realistic fish on me, I'd faint. Then I'd sue the pants off of them.
i have a friend who's aracnophobic, and one day someone thought crawling their fingers on him pretending it was a spider was going to be funny. he had a panic attack that took him several minutes to calm down. also, as a psychology major, phobias are no joke. i take them very seriously.
It's just like if you tricked someone with peanut allergy into eating a nut. You know they are going to have a strong adverse reaction and decide to provoke it on purpose.
as someone with trypophobia (fear of organised clusters of small holes or bumps -- ridiculous, I know, but the existential panic reaction is very real) when I tell people, their favourite activity is to show me pictures to witness my reaction. and it's like thank you, very funny, it's gonna haunt me for the rest of the day as I walk around in a state of itchy distress
Her "old, gay and Mean" comment reminded me of some ppl who feel like, cuz they're in marginalized communities, they're allowed to be mean. I think Ellen is one of those ppl
plus it's so counterproductive to imply that the criticism she's rightfully been facing is similar to homophobia or ageism (especially towards women). like those are two real issues and being mean is just her being a bad person ...
Finding out about this side of her made me so sad. Her old stand up shows were really funny and she was one of my favorite comedians for a long time. But I haven't been able to watch her for years because all the shit that's come out just makes her so off-putting to me now.
As a lesbian myself, I'm so over the "mean lesbian" stereotype that some of us feel compelled to embody. Like I get that it comes from a rejection of patriarchal and hetero norms that women should be sweet and submissive but some of y'all really use it as a shield to avoid taking accountability for treating people badly.
Being a strong woman is great but being an abusive ash hole is NOT being a strong woman. Ellen insisting on outing Mariah Carrey's pregnancy and making her drink champagne was absolutely disgusting. The reason why Mariah didn't want to disclose the pregnancy? Because it was early in the pregnancy. Guess what, she lost it a few weeks later.
As an autistic person one of my big bug bears is 'autism spectrum' stuff. Spectrum is like a spectrum of colours. Sometimes what you're talking about isn't a colour at all, like discussing the thickness of paper or something. Autism spectrum DOES NOT MEAN IT GOES FROM MOST TO LEAST AUTISTIC. It goes from red to violet. Autistic people are on a spectrum, not people as a whole are on the autism spectrum.
While I agree that the current use of “on the spectrum” isn’t accurate or the best term to use, the color spectrum goes from invisible light waves that are Ultraviolet, through visible color, and to other invisible light waves that are infrared. These light waves to us are effectively colorless, so the color spectrum does include colorless in it. As it currently is, the autism spectrum is from allistic to high support needs autistic. This is my TL;DR but I put it first because idk I just did Part of why saying “on the spectrum” isnt as much of a thing anymore though is because “spectrum” as a term refers to a sort of scale between two extremes. The idea behind “on the spectrum” was that the spectrum in question would be from “a little autistic” to “very autistic” which isn’t how it works, but also, if that is the way you frame it, should include allistic people as well to include the extreme and fit the definition. The spectrum of asd is moving towards being a way to describe the level of support needs a person has while acknowledging that there is a vast range of different presentations of autism, but it still isn’t the best fit as a name for an autism diagnosis since it’s not even a disorder; it’s a neurodevelopmental difference.
I think the point of the spectrum joke wasn't to say that every one has a bit of autism, but more of a play on the word, spectrum. That people who aren't autistic are still, well, on a "spectrum" of people who are and aren't. That's how I interpreted it at least.
Ugh, same here. On the spectrum means you are on the spectrum.... OF AUTISM. You have to literally be born with it, I'm Autistic too and I cringe whenever I hear people saying "we're all a little Autistic :)" No.
I'm so glad that you did this ! 1- her "Game of Games" show looks so much like the bully of the school putting classmates through physical and psychological ridicule in front of everybody. And you are so right about pranks ! It IS all about making the prankster laugh, not the person on the receiving end. 2 - when you listen to the "laughter" and "clapping" during this "humour" bit, you can hear that both often happen out of sync, much too soon for the punchline ; you can also hear that both laughter and clapping are suspiciously uniform in frequency/intensity and "equalised", at these moments ; I would say with great certainty that a good part of "audience reaction" was prerecorded in case of awkward silences. 3 - her body language during that bit clearly demonstrate that she couldn't care less about the audience in front of her. 4 - That is a "poor me, everybody hates me for no good reason, just because I'm a woman... etc " exercise.
Besides Dakota Johnson’s iconic call out, another clip I’ve seen is Ellen grilling the members of the kpop group SuperM and asking them to reveal if they are dating anyone (which is a whole thing with kpop, dating is basically banned) and one of the members, Mark, just goes “why do you care”. There are obviously worse instances like what you showed in the video but her being so pushy was so infuriating
yeah she pulled some shit with BTS too, including having a screaming woman run past them, as if they haven't had awful problems getting mobbed by overzealous "fans"
i'd go search that clip up now cuz mark is my bias, but i dont wanna give ellen's yt channel my money LMAOOO. another fave of mine is when Priyanka Chopra called Ellen out for NOT SHOWING UP TO HER WEDDING DESPITE BEING INVITED
Her saying “everyone is on the spectrum” is the same as people telling me that “everyone is a little autistic” when I mention I’m autistic. It’s dismissive, incorrect, and misinformed. It’s a way to tell autistic people that they should learn how to deal with it because “everyone is a little autistic”. I hate when people says that shit
The way my mouth dropped when she said she’s a strong woman. Strength is watching your mouth, doing the right thing even when it’s hard, and apologizing when you’re wrong.
I'm on the spectrum, and I don't appreciate "Everyone's a little autistic" anymore than I appreciate "Everyone has a little ADHD" or "Everyone's a little bit gay." No. Stop. It's not as cute as you think it is. It has the same energy as people claiming colorblindness. Edit: @lizlovescookies2689 has already explained it much better than I could, LOL. Anyway, I can't decide whether this is more or less embarrassing than Roseanne Barr's.
@@komos3719Same with my mom when I brought up ADHD. "There's nothing wrong with you, you're perfect!" I never said something was wrong with me, mom, I said I have ADHD.
To be so detached from reality to compare yourself, a multimillion-dollar CEO of your own talk show, to Ronald McDonald, a discontinued clown that does not own McDonald's, is beyond the most obtuse rubber goose green moose guava juice thing to say FRL.
I was going to say the joking about ‘do I owe back taxes?’ Gives me the same vibe as her Covid being in prison joke. Like she’s so rich she doesn’t get it. Joking about money struggle is so yuck. She thinks she can be relatable but you said it exactly-she is so detached from reality.
Right. I wish Ellen had been disappeared like they did Ronald. Or at least I wish Netflix had given Ronald the stand-up special instead of Ellen. I’m sure he’d be much funnier, and half of the money could go to Ronald McDonald house charities.
It’s pretty fair, though, in that the entertainment probably doesn’t want to be the CEO of the operation. Also I literally cannot find anything suggesting she was the CEO of Ellen, so did you just make that up?
you forgot the time Ellen baited, recorded and shamed that audience member for taking 2 free hats or something. like they had a table with free merch or something and they then called out the person on air and maid them give their name and apologize to ellen. it was suuuuper gross.
LITERALLY. And she was just taking something for her friend who couldn't be there. It probably cost Ellen not even $5 for someone to take extra. She sounded like she thought she was god when she lectured/humiliated that poor woman. I still don't understand the point of that. Why alienate your own audience on purpose?
6:04 but like.,,, it wasn't that she was mean that people hated. It was that she built her career on supposedly being nice. She ended every single one of her shows with "take care of yourselves and each other". She built up this persona preaching kindness and positivity, and then people found out that it was all a lie. That the kind person she pretended to be wasn't who she really was. She didn't practice what she preached, THAT'S why people turned on her.
I'm autistic, I got professionally diagnosed at 15 and I would explain autism as less of a spectrum between "very autistic" and "not autistic" and more of like, two different operating systems. Your brain works differently and you either are or you aren't using that system. Of course some autistic people will have higher or lower support needs, and some people will have an easier or harder time "acting" or "masking" as neurotypical/allistic, it's still not a single line of less autistic to more autistic. All this to say, we are not "all on the spectrum" it just doesn't work like that.
i’m autistic too, tbh i agree with this. there IS a spectrum, but you’re either autistic or not autistic. there’s a marked difference between neurotypical thinking and social ability and neurodivergence; there’s a spectrum but it begins somewhere and that somewhere is distinct from neurotypicality.
@@maraque16my preferred nomenclature is present in the OP we're replying to: high vs low support needs. I have low support needs ("high functioning") versus my son who has high support needs ("low functioning")
Very well put. My doctor when I was diagnosed described it more as a salad bar. Like yeah, bacon bits can be there but not everybody is gonna have them. Or have as much as someone else. If that makes sense lmao.
yeah as an autistic person people saying 'wEll we're ALL on thE spectrum🤪" gives the same energy as someone saying 'wEll we're all a LITTLE bisexual'. its corny at best but it just feels like erasure 9/10.
Right it's like 😐 If we all were then why does the world make me feel like I don't belong constantly? why would it be w thing then? Ik its not that deep but bro I feel guilty even being offended or standing up for myself for that, don't wanna seem whiney. It's just like ok I'll take it I guess because I'd be more embarrassed tryna defend myself/my community
There’s no such thing as we’re all on the spectrum. She gets away with saying that’s a very damaging thing on Netflix. It’s incredulous what she gets away with.
not autistic (but neurodivergent, and also queer), and agree it's a bad and offensive joke - but offensive in that way where you can feel weird calling it out, cause you know there are people who'll say worse stuff ... Also, and this isn't that relevant, but you could make a similar joke, but not offensive. Just have it be 'well, not on *that* spectrum', and depending on tone, maybe workshop wording and build-up, I think you could have a joke there
@@justhearmeout3959 yeees, I think that's so on point. and even if she WERE to be diagnosed, that's not a reason to not apologise and change your behaviour when being cruel to people.
SO ridiculous. Imagine being Ellen, a person who has defied gender-presentation norms for most of her entire career, and making a stand about a child having hair to their shoulders. ((I MEAN IMAGINE ANYONE DOING this it is SO none of her business))
@@Tom_Cruise_Missile “sometimes i have social anxiety so i can totally relate to your brain literally being different from mine” like what are they on about 😂
@@819199a lot of the time it's just a way for people to diminish our struggles. sometimes out of pure misunderstanding and lack of education, other times out of willful ignorance. if everyone has struggles in some of these areas, in their mind it takes away your "excuse" to not be meeting societal expectations.
@@819199Oh my god, as someone with social anxiety, I hate it when people say that. It’s like my social anxiety doesn’t matter to them and that I should get over it. It’s not a thing I can just get over though
21:27 SERIOUSLY! Women early on in their pregnancy don’t typically tell people that they’re pregnant because the first trimester is when it is unsure if they’d keep the baby, which unfortunately what happened to Mariah
It’s a puny point in the video but as a scientist, my eye is twitching. If you don’t understand science, “chicken dreams” sound useless. If you do understand science, you understand that learning how processes work in an animal model helps humans to understand more about ourselves. It teaches us what’s similar, what’s different, and may even help us understand a process or a concept in a more simplistic way that was harder to understand whilst studying it in humans. I know it’s a freaking joke, but it is ridiculously unintelligent and ignorant to just assume that all the top scientists are working on just that and that it’s useless science.
@@lizchesley6028 In this specific case, the stand up special seemed to be mostly about her cancellation and making excuses for her actions. You know, two (or more) things can be true at the same time.
She didn't want to be a boss? She was listed as one of the executive producers, the entire time the show ran. So she was willing to get the title, credit, & money of being a boss, but not the responsibility. I saw the trailer and thought, no thanks. Thanks for this video, because now I know I definitely don't want to watch her special.
Exactly!!! I'm just a stand up comedian; don't get mad at me if I can't do my other jobs well. If your only motivation for doing other jobs was $$$$$, then you were in it for the wrong reasons, kid! No one forced her to do any of these things. I'm sure many of us have had worse bosses; but they are not in the public eye like Ellen was.
Wow I've never seen that Taylor Swift clip before. I usually don't have much interest in her, but seeing her react like that made me feel so sad for her in that moment
Seriously. She was just a young woman trying to figure out her life in a really intense context (fame). Imagine someone shaming you for.... idk dating people? Isn't that what 23 year olds do? Jesus
@@00NoirAnd in generally it seems like women who date many different partners are shamed much more likely than men. Men having multiple relationships during teens/adulthood is considered cool and "manly" and when women do the same they're sluts etc... we live in patriarchy 💀frustrating double standards..
@@Lady-Seashell-Bikini The general public has always had a weird kink for slut shaming Taylor Swift - while I'm not a huge fan of everything Taylor does, I've always hated this attitude towards her. It's super weird and creepy.
Although I'd agree there is a double standard, the difference between Ellen and James also lies in the fact that Ellen was the "lets be nice to each other" host, as for James most people could tell he was a prick from the start...
Josh Johnson is actually crazy talented. I have zero attention span, and last night I watched him do an hour and a half on the Diddy/50 Cent beef. the man is just riveting to listen to, whether he's telling jokes or just talking.
@@peachy_liliI went into it intending to put it down halfway through so I could do some studying and I ended up watching the whole thing without realising. His standup has a way of sucking you in and it’s seriously impressive
autistic person here. It was as weird as you thought it was. If only for implying that rude and uncaring=autistic. It also gave "I don't really believe people when they say they're autistic unless they're visibly so"
Seeing those clips of Mariah Carey and T.Swift makes Ellen look like the white version of Wendy Williams; invasive, humiliating, and gossiping about online rumors
THANK YOU FOR COVERING THIS ISSUE - and so perceptively. That I choose not to waste more time on HER perfidies (cutting out at 8:28) is not intended to reflect badly on YOU, Mr. D'Angelo.
This shit makes me have even more empathy for the BoJack characters, at least they'll actually _feel shame_ in private (even though they'll mostly keep being awful lol)
"I was hoping I'd be able to blame my behavior on autism, but it turns out I'm not autistic. Wait, if I use the "everyone's a little autistic" line, maybe I can blame my behavior on autism anyway" -Ellen's thought process, probably (thanks for calling out the bs of this, D'Angelo)
"we're all on the spectrum" and "we're all a little autistic/ADHD" are comments I hear very frequently as an autistic person, and they're very often said to minimalize the struggles of neurodivergent people by making it seem like autism or other neurodivergencies aren’t a big deal. I'm not saying this was Ellen's intention, but it's still a weird and wildly inaccurate thing to say. Not only that, it's a mindset that can greatly set back progress for accommodations for neurodivergent people. Comparing a regular amount of forgetfulness that every person has to the frequent forgetfulness (sometimes with severe consequences) of a person with ADHD minimalizes the very pressing struggles they face every day. This type of mindset leads many people to believe that accommodations aren't necessary because "everyone forgets things sometimes", so why should some people get medication/therapy/special learning plans for it? Again, I know Ellen wasn't using it in that context, but it's still an insensitive, inaccurate, and damaging notion that I and many other neurodivergent people are sick of hearing.
If we got a nickel for every time we hear "we're all a little autistic!," we'd have a stable life instead of needing to spend years fighting for SSDI lmao
I think it's something I find fundamentally frustrating about "the spectrum" metaphor. its not a spectrum from "not autistic ----> most autistic," instead, the autism "spectrum" is a diverse *spectrum of symptoms* that are all specific *to autism,* but may not necessarily be experienced by *everyone with* autism. I think this is largely the fault of the organizations that want to "raise awareness" about autism and their own public communications, which get diluted and mischaracterized the more it gets telephoned, even within the mental health field.
Im also autistic and fully agree it’s so frustrating It’s “everyone’s on the spectrum” until I get written up at work for “not being a team player” because I wasn’t being “social enough”
I adore Chappell but ive been a bit out of the loop. Ive seen many comments about her in this, has something happened specifically? Im too scared to look because people are literally always ready to cancel her and I really dont want that lol.
That BS was just how all TV was at the time. Which is stupid and awful. Chappell Roan is a product of her generation, a generation who don't tolerate bullshit TV tactics, because they grew up watching things like that happen. Good for them. Treating celebrities like nonhumans needs to end.
she complains about ageism then recycles content from 30 years ago like maybe instead of complaining that people think youre too old for this you could *write better material to prove them wrong*
As an autistic person, I personally find the “we’re all autistic it’s a SPECTRUM” approach an EXTREMELY disrespectful way to describe possible autism because it invalidates real autistic individuals who actually are autistic because “we’re ALLLL autistic, it’s a spectrum” just essentially means that even if you’re not autistic, you can use excuse’s for your “autistic” behaviors while truly autistic people are shamed, excluded, or discriminated against because of those behaviors. It’s just extremely weird & gross & quite ableist to me. I appreciate you calling it out D’Angelo & not invalidating the autistic experience & community because we need more of that. People, autistic or not, should call out comments like that which create stereotypes that harm autistic people. Thank you for coming to my autism Ted talk
That Taylor Swift reaction was not comedic omg the people laughing wtf??? None of that was comedic that was 100% her hurting. Also poor Mariah she’s laughing yes but she’d doing that because she knows that Ellen is so beloved that she can’t put her in her place on a live audience tv taping💀
for what it's worth pretty sure most talk shows do at least some doctoring of audience reactions in post production to make themselves look better, so I consider those more like a laugh track in a sitcom than an accurate representation of anything
autistic viewer and yes, you are absolutely right to feel grossed out by the 'everyones on the spectrum' jokes bc 1) that is not how autism works (its a spectrum of different social, sensory, learning and motor needs, not a spectrum of 'most to least' - which would be a line and not a spectrum but i digress). and 2) people saying that is usually used to disparage and reduce the struggles of autistic people. banger video as always, hope ur having a good day :D
I just wanted to thank you for being a super cool, level-headed, down to earth human being. Been watching you from the beginning and you never let your ego get the best of you. Kudos to your parents for raising a proper gentleman, as well. ❤
That clip of Taylor is worse within the context of the time. 2012-13 was really bad in terms of online hate for her, largely due to ppl judging her dating history, so if she had walked out during the interview, she would’ve gotten dragged online. But staying meant she had to deal with Ellen’s bs. So shitty all around. And the Mariah clip makes me so sad every time.
she is also a possible creep considering she allegedly dated a 17 year old which if true less than 2 shits how she feels. If not, then i feel different.
I’m diagnosed with autism- you’re right D’Angelo it is considered quite offensive to say all people are on the spectrum because then autism simply would not exist and we wouldn’t feel alienated constantly in our daily lives.
Yeah. I'm fine with NT people relating to my experiences here and there because I'm all for fostering mutual understanding and shit, but that phrase is just not it. Especially since they only say it when they want to excuse some crappy behavior or to dismiss us when we're inconvenient.
@@ND-nr6mxexactly. it's just used as a form of erasure and dismissal a lot of the time. it's their way of justifying their ableist beliefs that you are inherently less than for not functioning in the same way they do. so they just take away your "excuse" to function differently and make it into a character flaw. everyone else struggles with some of these things sometimes, what's your big issue. type of thing.
For some reason your channel was recommended. Not sure who you are but now I have subscribed. Loved your nostalgia comment of 5 seconds of 5 minutes before something was said. I will go back and get exact quote. :)
Thank you for doing this video. I had seen her special on Netflix but I was not about to give her my view so thank you for informing me how bad it was without having to give her my money, so to speak. That part with the 1 min standing ovation kind of reminded me of a clip from a Scientology gala where they just applauded for like five min and it was required like they had to....I wonder like do we need to check on the audience do we know if they where there of their own free will?
Yeah, I'm not saying it's easy to be publically queer now or anything, but easier than the 90s, and it probably isn't that hard when you're super rich, like, what is anyone going to do to you. You're in Disney movies. You're fine.
also as a gay person, who's so quick to use gender stereotypes to defend herself, her shaming a little boy with long hair sure is SOMETHING
Yeah, I don't know where she would have ended up going with that line of conversation, whether it's pushing gender 'norms', putting a kid on the spot, the kids parent on the spot, or whatever. Glad that Celine just nipped that in the bud with justified anger.
!! Loved Celine’s defense, she sounded like such a great mom
I love Drew Gooden’s analysis of this moment in his video on Ellen:
“Boy have long hair? No boy have short hair, girl have long hair… wait..”
Her pulling the sexism card after the nasty way she treated so many women 👌🏻
It's AWFUL. How low do you have to be to resort to making fun of a literal CHILD for a joke?? She's not a comedian, she's a bully.
"I got kicked out of show biz" she says, un-ironically, literally with a mic in her hand on a Netflix special 😂
While taping her show
It's like people saying people were trying to cancel Dave Chappelle 😂😂. This dude walked away from a huge deal years ago and when he came back, he still had a fanbase, plus new viewers (like me, I only heard of him in 2022, despite seeing him in Nutty professor 😅). How can trans people cancel him 😂? These people are literally the least populous demographic. "I'm rich, bish", even if he's kicked out of show biz, he'll be fine 🤦🏾♀️. It's poor people like us being mad on their behalf that's the craziest thing 😮
it's an oldie but a classic
yet you know exactly what she means yet you act dense
@@beebeedeeie why are you in every comment thread glazing her? she's not going to fuck you bro
I'm sick of people using their "cancellation" as their redemption arc... Like they are sooo brave and heroic for not giving up when everyone wants them to for very valid reasons.
real, not to mention the fact that the person in question isn’t really cancelled if they can get a comedy special lol
If I were her I would’ve completely ignored the drama altogether and just dropped the comedy special without even mentioning it. Reminding people why they hate you is never a good idea.
@@hyalina7098 tbf it's not hard to get a Netflix comedy special these days
Fuck Louis CK for starting this
We canceled so much, it kinda became alluring
As an autistic person, the 'everyone's on the spectrum' thing is incredibly frustrating. It's not a spectrum of 'not autistic' to 'autistic. It's more a case of 'if you are autistic, there is a spectrum of behaviours, experiences and support needs'
Every autistic person I've worked or been friends with are NEVER mean. They work extremely hard at relationships and work and would die if they thought they had offended someone. Ellen was sooo wrong to say this.
@@claireconolly8355 Thank you. I know a LOT of autistic people, and we're all just trying our best (not to say that autistic people never suck, we're all human and some humans are just garbage, but it's absolutely not an excuse for that). Usually, if we upset or offend people, it's because we've missed nonverbal cues and/or talked about a topic we didn't know was inappropriate. The fact she used it as a shield for criticism is so frustrating, because the vast majority of us get the third degree for so much more minor things and nobody cuts us a break
@@claireconolly8355there are plenty of autistic people that suck.. but that's because there are plenty of people that suck in general! we are not at all immune to being shitty (because we are just human beings), but it's also definitely not a defining factor of being autistic. For some people, part of their social struggles is not understanding cues of when other people think you've said something rude or offensive. Sure that's true, but not every autistic person struggles with that very much. Usually it is also not intentional, people are taught that honesty is the best policy but the only people who seem to really take that to heart are occasionally children, and autistic people who tend to take things literally and at face value.
Yep as a fellow person formally diagnosed on the spectrum I agree
As someone who's most likely not autistic, I also hate it. Like, no?? I am not also "part of the spectrum", I don't live my life with any difficulties from being discriminated against, having society push you down, having your own body stop you. Why are we treating autism like this? It's not just a little bit of spice that everyone has, it's a lot more than that, and when people say this it feels so wrong, like my existence is being used to tell autistic people to toughen up or whatever else.
Ellen got confused between harmless pranks and prankless harm
nice one
this is better writing than anything i heard in her special
ate
Facts!
Hear hear!! :D
Though I wonder what would happen if some crew member pranked her back. Probably the two of them would have a really good laugh, and create a fun work day for all! (not)
It would've been a better investment if Netflix paid Dakota Johnson $20m just to sit on a couch and spill tea on Ellen for an hour.
Omg facts. Dakota Johnson is funnier than Ellen talking about anything. I love her facial expressions a lot of time minor but they are very telling
Please yes
I'd pay to see that. I have no interest in any of her movies, but adore every interview. She looks like the most natural chill person ever
Literal or figurative tea?
I like the way you think
I'm begging and pleading for comedians to write jokes about anything other than cancelations and pronouns.
genuinely try josh johnson's bits if you feel like standup. ive been enjoying them. hes generally topical but is very good at fielding batshit stories
Are you asking them to WORK on their craft?! Ew, sister ew.
/sarcasm
@@naomikon_ I just finished his 1-hr special on P. Diddy earlier today, and it was excellent.
Saw Joe pera recently - he's a good boy
This is exactly what I have been thinking about today. Nothing is really funny anymore and only about gender, pronouns or depending on which side you are on about how everbody non-lgbt is a bad person or how lgbt people are literally the devil here to destroy society. Very exhausting and not funny.
This is precisely how parents of adult children who have gone no contact, respond.
They won't tell you the details of what their child actually told them, and will fixate on generalized terminology that self victimizes, and repeat it over and over.
Hey Spectrum, what the he'll was that word salad. It says nothing, is Kamala Harris part of your group?
Quit posting bullshit.
@@ralphschneider9283 my comment literally just says what bad parents do, why does that trigger you?
@@ralphschneider9283Please take your meds. You're having a public mental breakdown on youtube.
She keeps using the word "mean" because it's a much more digestible word than "abusive". And it's not just her employees. Her late ex girlfriend Anne Heche said that Ellen tried to keep her isolated and told her that she didn't "want a girlfriend who needs friends". She's always been this way.
What happened to Portia DeRossi?
@@BlackRaven000this was before portia
@BlackRaven000 she allegedly isolates Portia too.
wtf.. and then daring to use misogyny as the reason that there's consequences for her actions.
Rip Anne Heche, a wonderful actor!
Sure Ellen, it’s the gender roles. That’s what it is. That’s what it was when you tried to goad Mariah Carey into announcing her pregnancy too early. Or every experience with Dakota Johnson. Or slut shaming Taylor Swift. Or making fun of Sofia Vergara’s accent. All classic things that women get blamed for all the time.
Or making fun of a little boy having long hair
@@kaibaiarrio1299 which is so ironic given she's had short hair her entire career lmaoooo like at least don't be hypocritical on live TV
don’t forget the translator that she relentlessly mocked because she thought the chinese language has too many syllables.
As women, society forces ALL of us to do ALL those things, you don't know about it?
women are hateful in general. I was raised by my father my mom died when I was a kid. Im over it. Im an adult now who happens to work around other women what a fucking headache, and I a woman lol.
Ellen is allowed to be mean and gross, but the audience she cultivates is allowed to find it offensive and make the choice not to consume it.
@@annacobb1140 yeah honestly everybody can do what they want but this celebrity bias has got to stop. her audience is allowed to dislike her and choose to not interact, her employees can publicly shame her, and the narrative around her shouldn't be "comeback" but "disgraced comedian in her flop era fails at dramatic self-victimizing return"
yet they weren't even given a chance to show up for themselves and now she can not everywhere cares about 100 places reporting the same thing.. allow grace
@@beebeedeeieEllen had 20 years of grace. The fact she refuses to change and continually blames others around her for her own shortcomings can only be forgiven so many times. She can only be the mean girl so many times before people stop giving her attention or forgiveness.
There is some type of delusion in these celebrities. They have forgotten that they are only important because people want them to be.
I'm thankful D'Angelo watched this so I don't have to.
You mark my words:
This will not be Ellen’s last stand-up show.
Dear god
yep, especially if she's offered 20 mil again
"I just used my employee's phobias against them to terrorize them and laugh in their face....so nothing serious" DUDE 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I genuinely hoped she was gonna say "I can see how that was wrong" instead of "I can see how that was misinterpreted" like girl you're full on victim blaming 😭😭😭
Except the employees weren't even allowed to look at her in any way, so I am pretty sure this is her attempt to make more excuses.
"It's just harmlessly triggering real trauma-responses dude" sure is a TAKE from Ellen
Yeah that's not a prank, that's just tormenting someone.
I remember a clip making the rounds from her show where she had a member of her crew go through a haunted house for their Halloween show. It was funny the first few seconds, until I realized the intern or whatever had a legit phobia about horror movies and Ellen made her do this anyway. Then I just felt like an accomplice and couldn't finish it.
The way Ellen talks about getting "kicked out of showbiz" makes me think of a mom whose kids went no contact with her bc of her abuse, who then goes and tells her friends "my kids ABANDONED me because they think I'm MEAN 😢".
🎯🎯🎯💯
Oh, my mother in law! Yepp
My mom in a year and a half 😭
@@lavender9844 Stay strong, your time will come! You deserve love, kindness, and respect❣🫂
absolutely spot on!!
You know those toxic parents who, when you call them out on their behavior, start yelling "WELL I GUESS I'M THE WORST MOM EVER?!"
Yeah.
“I guess I’m just the worst woman ever, huh?!” is EXACTLY the vibe I got from her 😂
That is 100% I think where so much of her abusive behavior is sorted, in that same kind of passive aggressive tone that a lot of women perfect because they want to straight up be aggressive but women aren't allowed to do that
Wait how do u know my mom
That's my mother. Even though she wants us to be honest with her..the moment we are she's the worst mom ever and is yelling?! Say whaaa? 😂
And totally Ellen! 😂❤
"I tried my best. You were a terrible audience!" I'm projecting a lil bit but ye
I'm going to end every work call with "I'm a strong woman", followed by four minutes of what I expect will be a standing ovation.
Anyone who calls herself outloud "a strong woman" is either a very vulnerable woman trying to fake it or an absolute narcissist.
Her reaction when Dakota Johnson turned the tables on her was a mask slipped moment. She did not like it AT ALL.
She always gave me uncanny valley vibes. I LOVED seeing that mask slip, it felt like the first genuine moment I'd seen on her in years!!
Honestly it gave Dakota a lot of brownie points with me.
Some heads must've rolled after that... Like she def blamed the crew for not foreseeing the turn of the events.
Dakota outsmarted her by telling the truth which was great to see! It showed that Ellen was a liar and also stupid which would have burned.
My jaw dropped when I saw the clips of Ellen making Mariah Carey drink the champagne and what she did to the audience member that took more than one item off the merch table. And all the other clips of her being "kind"
Ellen’s stand up special was just Disney testing the waters to see if they could recast her for the 2028 live action Finding Nemo remake
Expensive test.
don't even JOKE
@@SarahKaterpillar😂😂😂
this is fuxking hilarious actually
LMAOOOO
as someone who has diagnosed autism, yes it is weird for her to say that. especially for someone who has adhd and ocd, she should understand that those things are genuinely hard to live with. i hope that makes sense. it’s kind of like her saying “we all have issues so yours aren’t that bad”
Couldn't agree more
I also have diagnosed autism, and it is so weird for her to say that. You either have autism or you don't. You're only on the spectrum if you are autistic, so everyone is indeed not a little bit autistic. *Insert exasperated sigh*
@@melissaskinner2199If everyone was autistic you’d figure nobody would be, yknow
the neurotypicals trying to demean/diminish our struggles always hurts
Yeah the spectrum isn’t autistic to non-autistic it’s about what symptoms you experience and to what degree
@@Sintagon I couldn't agree more.
As a psychiatrist, people self-diagnosing OCD makes my teeth itch. OCD Is very often a destructive, debilitating illness. It’s not cute or cool. It’s extremely painful to the sufferers. Not treating it seriously is very distressing to me.
Right? And it sucks because I know those “Omg Imm so OCD I line up my pens on my desk hahaha” types would probably be weirded out if they heard the intrusive thoughts that come with OCD. Like it’s a disorder, it’s not fun to have
god same, as someone with diagnosed OCD. I hate it so much when people use it as an excuse, without even knowing what it's like to actually have.
one of my favorite pranks i’ve seen recently was two twins acting like they don’t know eachother in an elevator LOL that’s how a prank is done
That is actually funny!
My favorite prank is these guys who, when stopped at a red light, gesture to the person next to them to roll their window down and then when the person does, they just roll their own window back up. It’s stupid and silly and everyone laughs then goes about their day
My favorite prank is Rick Rolling because everyone gets to hear a pretty nice song and an artist gets paid.
@@fairpoet I miss pranks like that. Same line as the game. Sorry to everyone who just lost the game.
@@mumenRhyder it's been 15 years since I lost the game. I hope you're proud of yourself
Am I the only one who honestly forgot about her until now tbh-
no, but i wish we both could go back to that point
She doesn't deserve a permanent place in my brain storage.
🎶You are not alone…. I am here with you 🎶
i had forgotten about her until a few weeks back when scrolling shorts and seeing her try to advertise her shitty mobile app lol. i think it’s just merge mansion but slightly rebranded around herself. the ads always start with her telling you to download it and i instantly just get annoyed by her voice.
Ellen who?
that clip of taylor swift literally screaming at ellen to stop always catches me off guard even when i know it's coming. i don't even like taylor swift but in that moment, she feels like a kid that's just completely overwhelmed and overstimulated. like why would you ever do that to someone ever??? ellen is so insensitive and rude
It's Narcissistic abuse... I don't like Taylor either but unlike Ellen our hearts aren't made of stone, so her minor meltdown was a hard watch...
she was a kid being slut shamed by a much older woman. let's point THAT out. ellen was actively slut shaming taylor with her supposed "many boyfriends" (half which weren't even someone she dated, just someone she'd been casually friends with), which let to taylor to cry and beg for ellen to stop. people forget how fuckin HORRIBLE the slut shaming towards taylor was.
If I felt my words were at all leading someone to react that negatively even if I didn't get why, I'd back off. Like you said, it felt like she regressed into an overstimulated child, and that's not a knock on her because doing that to someone asking you to stop in front of the whole world is not polite conversation. I felt guilty and I wasn't there.
are you serious 😑 @@z0z111
This was the first time I saw that clip and it shook me 😬
As a medical neuroscience grad student, you will NEVER hear any of us saying people studying animal behavior, no matter what that is, should quit and do something else. Let alone a whole other science field. Ellen isn't just disrespectful, she's clueless. Thanks for the support D'Angelo, we appreciate you
On top of everything else, we actually don't need more climate scientists. Because we already have solutions for everything. Solutions that politicians refuse to implement. All the research today is going into "okay we 100% have a solution to this, but let's find one that's easier and more fun/marketable."
i was lookin for this comment lol
or, you know, literal billionaires worrying about 'loosing money' as if they aren't so astronomically out of touch that they think going to mars is better than actually preserving the earth.
Yup, came here to say this
Yeah D'Angelo hit it right away with "you could put those 20 million to help with climate change" what the climate change crisis needs is some serious funding
We already have the answers, they just don't benefit shareholders so corporations and governments are choosing to let us slowly ruin the only planet we have to live on.
Yay capitalism! 😬
“People think I’m cruel so I tested myself for autism” really hurts my feelings.
Ellen was wrong for saying that; please don't take it to heart. The autistic people I know are honest, earnest, and generous - I'd never associate "cruel" with autism.
@@ExhaustedOwl ❤️❤️❤️
@@ExhaustedOwlUnlike Ellen.
Mmhmm!
I have an ex who came across as rude/insensitive and he was learned to be autistic later. It was the special interests, unique problem solving, and little details that I found freaking adorable and brought the thought towards autism, not the insensitivity. The insensitivity pointed to a severe level of childhood neglect. As soon as I explained how something might impact someone else he was immediately empathetic and worked on being more sensitive and regularly checked in with me on how someone might be feeling if he wasn't sure. He was not a cruel person and didn't enjoy people being in terror. And so kind to animals, we still maintain shared pets.
This comment on Ellen's part was so inappropriate. She wants a get out of mistreating others free card and that is NOT what autism is. And I'm pissed at her for acting like that is what autism is. 😤🙄
This attitude is pissing horrifying.
@@ExhaustedOwl Agreed! They are very gifted, too! :)
The “phobia pranks” are sadistic af. Same with the humiliation stuff.
I never knew she did that to Mariah in 2008 but holy shit what a terrible thing to do to someone.
Holy fuck _and_ she miscarried after? I wish cancel culture was real. The fact Ellen can come back and make millions on a stand up special is so busted.
I'm literally afraid of disclosing my phobia to people after watching Ellen do that when I was a kid.
Absolutely
@@3amDayDreamer don't look up the clip where Ellen scares Taylor with a sea urchin. it's not f*cking funny, she's got perfectly good reason to be scared of them and Ellen basically put one right in her face. sick twisted behavior
As an autistic person I can’t stand it when people say “everyone is on the spectrum” or “everyone is a little autistic”. If that was true, we would live in a sensory friendly, quiet and understanding world which was adapted to prevent autistic people from being overwhelmed by the sensory hell that is outside.
as an autistic person, I'm gonna need all autistics and non-autistics alike to stop talking about a literal disability as if it's just "bad social skills" or "low IQ."
for real
Preach!!!
yes sir/ma'am/nonbinary term or respect 🫡
realest comment ever
Is this what people thrive off of? Feel good, meaningless word,fantasy indulging, circle jerks?
What's so ironic about the Celine Dion incident is that she literally is a woman with short hair questioning why her son has long hair......
I thought that too! Why is she questioning going against social norms FFS?
Exactly! Ellen has never been a girly girl or very feminine in terms of how she dresses-and that’s fine because that’s her preference-, yet she thinks it ok to question a boy with long hair?
And also, like, going after Celine Dion? One of the sweetest performers out there if the stories are true? Tacky. Mega tacky.
Right? Everyone judged me, also, let me judge you and your kid. I would have said, if he were a girl would you ask me that question? Boys can have long hair, Ellen.
Hmmm....
The random zoom ins on her face has me on the floor😭
I was bullied and ostracized by parental figures and students alike, struggled heavily academically due to lack of accommodations, suffer from dietary issues because there are so many foods I can’t make myself eat, and I struggle with mundane tasks most people can do easily that I am often shamed for by other people, but yeah sure Ellen everyone is a little autistic.
I've been wondering if I'm neurodivergent or just depressed. I have so many issues 🤦🏾♀️. I'll still never just say I'm a little autistic because I've not been diagnosed. And I'm so sick of people trying to generalize pain just to diminish how someone is feeling. It's like when my only sibling (brother 😢) died at 17 and my aunt (of all people 🤦🏾♀️) told me that everyone has lost someone because I dared to cry 2 months later 😮😮😮😮
I think people are taught that phrase as a way to relate to/understand autistic people better. I roll my eyes when I hear it but I also don't think it is indicative of a moral failing in the person who says it.
@@tamiausten873It's possible that your 'depression' is Major Depression, or another illness that causes Major Depression symptoms. No matter what, sounds like you've been traumatized and in grief. So you're probably not neurotypical, though I'm in no position to diagnose you. My condolences for your loss of your brother, and for your aunt's attitude towards your grief.
EXACTLY it's always either minimizing, or deflective dkjfghdk like "everyone's a little bit gay!" means either 1. you don't understand the fundamentals of another person's existence or 2. you have some things to discover about yourself mang
OH, THE FOODS ARE SO BAD! Not only because of nutrition, but also the isolation that comes from being unable to eat many things and in many places
You're right about her autism comment. It's invalidating and NOT what it means when we say autism is a spectrum. It means that autism manifests in all sorts of ways in autistic people. It does NOT mean that everyone is a little autistic. Allistic people (non-autistic) can experience some of the same things, but it doesn't effect them in the same way if that makes sense?
exactly what i was thinking! it just sounds so much like people trivializing neurodivergency as just a quirky part of life, makes me think of when it was commonplace to say things like "don't we all have OCD sometimes"
i think she's trying to claim that she has a neurodivergent brain bc she has ocd and add but used the term 'on the spectrum' when I don't think that's ever been used for being neurodivergent
i agree it was a really out of place comment there. she doesnt have any sort of comprehension, just saw 'spectrum' and thought of a 'funny' bit to make out of it
@@museofthedamned you're right. "On the spectrum" is used in reference to specifically autism. She may be neurodivergent, but (as she admitted) she's not autistic.
I agree that she just wanted to make a joke about it without really knowing what she's talking about.
@@certainlynobody9287not neurodivergence, just autism. “On the spectrum” refers to the S in ASD.
That clip with Taylor is heartbreaking. She was about to full-on break down.
The clip with Mariah is frustrating. There's a *reason* women keep health information to themselves (pregnancy is included in that). It's no one's business and Mariah *did not* owe Ellen or the world an explanation.
The clip with Justin is violating. He was still a kid FFS!
I already thought Celine was a badass. Now I respect her that much more. Same with Dakota Johnson.
seeing those real life examples was brutal
Lolol ok I am sure not on ELLEN’s side here, but RELAX. TS is Fine. TRUST ME, she DOES NOT mind people speculating that she has dated every single guy, she loves it. She’s made a career of it. If people aren’t constantly talking about Taylor, she’ll die.
@@stevielove4778 I thnk this is just a narrative yall have crafted to hate on her unnecessarily tbh
@@stevielove4778 except she (TS) literally said million timed that it did bother her and she hated this narration and the slut shaming when in reality she dated like 10 people in the span of many years. And also she is very back in the spotlight now in the last 3 years, but like she hid for a year after the kimye drama, and then in the years 2017-2021 she was still hinda not very active in terms of her media and public presence etc, not to mention she was with the same guy for 6 years sooo
@@stevielove4778like i get it, she has been absolutely everywhere for like 3 years now and it does get annoying, but you know, you can not like that and still acknowledge that she was at a receiving end of slut shaming for dating some people and writing songs about her life, which like most of the musicians who write their music do
"Its not terrible but its not that funny" is pretty much her stand up ability summarized into one sentence
"I was kicked out for being mean" no, honey, you were kicked out for lacking empathy and being objectively cruel and dismissive when you were presenting yourself as the epitome of sweet kind giving loving individuals.
Very demure, very mindful. Love your comment.
So being mean
Kind of ironic that Ellen's rival, the late great Joan Rivers was dirty in her comedy but was said to be one of the sweetest individuals off stage.
Right? "Be kind" my ass
@@taracarroll4218 one thing ellen did that REALLY pissed me off was she had Kathy Griffin on her show and told Kathy she was too mean and she should be nice to celebs. Now bear in mind, Kathy says she's had positive interactions with pretty much everyone she disses on a regular basis- in fact Martha Stewart & Oprah were giving Kathy dirt on Barbara Streisand for weird shit she did in their presence that was entitled and rude of Babs. Ellen said Kathy was too mean to Gwyneth Paltrow......Kathy's mean bc she's making jokes of Gwyneth but you're 'nice' telling your employees not to look at you? really shows how much Ellen values celebrity.
I am on the spectrum. Yeah it was kinda weird. Maybe it was out of context, but it felt like she was saying “oh maybe I’m mean because I’m autistic”. Like, can we maybe stop conflating the two and spreading the idea that autistic people are mean? Or trying to using it as an excuse? We’re useless with social cues, not actively malicious.
And if you’re gonna joke about autism, at least make it funny!
That's exactly how it came across to me too. I'm so tired of people trying to use autism or mental issues as an excuse for there shitty behaviour
It's a ploy to make people feel sorry for her -- that life is just, factually, harder for her because she's neurodiverse. Therefore she doesn't have to take responsibility for her ethics or choices
The funny thing is, Ellen has likely figured out how to parse and deal with neurotypical behavior given how far she's made it in comedy, TV, movies, etc., which means in her case she likely knows pretty well what behavior is considered rude/mean but actively chooses to ignore that knowledge. That is not an autistic trait. That is an Ellen trait
but also, being bad at communication also shouldn't automatically mean you have autism. like let's stop trying to get diagnosed with something so people can excuse their shitty behaviour away instead of taking accountability for it. People have real struggles and so many are trivializing it all because they think being neuro diverse is a get out of jail free card.
after this attempt at comeback doesn’t work out watch Elen to come out as autistic in 3,2,1
Using someone's phobia as a joke is beyond mean, it's sadistic. I am ichtyophobic, if my boss were to put fake realistic fish on me, I'd faint. Then I'd sue the pants off of them.
i have a friend who's aracnophobic, and one day someone thought crawling their fingers on him pretending it was a spider was going to be funny. he had a panic attack that took him several minutes to calm down.
also, as a psychology major, phobias are no joke. i take them very seriously.
It's just like if you tricked someone with peanut allergy into eating a nut.
You know they are going to have a strong adverse reaction and decide to provoke it on purpose.
It’s absolutely cruelty.
Lmao
as someone with trypophobia (fear of organised clusters of small holes or bumps -- ridiculous, I know, but the existential panic reaction is very real) when I tell people, their favourite activity is to show me pictures to witness my reaction. and it's like thank you, very funny, it's gonna haunt me for the rest of the day as I walk around in a state of itchy distress
0:10 Yes, next question.
How do you know that? 😂 (Just to clarify, I know what happened.)
Netflix really is an asylum centre for cancelled griftcomedians, isn't it?
😂😂 diddy do it is what I'm waiting for
everybody gets a standup special
Netflix specializes in cancelation. They host canceled things and they cancel shows.
@@heatherjackson3890 "We need to nip that planned three-season arc of the cool _Kaos_ series in the bud so we can have more has-been comedians"
Ellen is thoughtful. It takes a lot of thought to find your employees fears and exploit them at every chance you get.
Lol😂this was too funny omg
Literally what I was thinking too
Her "old, gay and Mean" comment reminded me of some ppl who feel like, cuz they're in marginalized communities, they're allowed to be mean. I think Ellen is one of those ppl
She's giving "I'm one of the good ones" vibes fr.
plus it's so counterproductive to imply that the criticism she's rightfully been facing is similar to homophobia or ageism (especially towards women). like those are two real issues and being mean is just her being a bad person ...
Finding out about this side of her made me so sad. Her old stand up shows were really funny and she was one of my favorite comedians for a long time. But I haven't been able to watch her for years because all the shit that's come out just makes her so off-putting to me now.
@@maironamakesstuff True. She's become like Roseanne. A disappointment to her past self
As a lesbian myself, I'm so over the "mean lesbian" stereotype that some of us feel compelled to embody. Like I get that it comes from a rejection of patriarchal and hetero norms that women should be sweet and submissive but some of y'all really use it as a shield to avoid taking accountability for treating people badly.
I’m gona start using that saying “only thing it makes me nostalgic for is 5 mins ago when I wasn’t watching this hahahahaha” that’s absolutely jokes
I dieeed
Being a strong woman is great but being an abusive ash hole is NOT being a strong woman. Ellen insisting on outing Mariah Carrey's pregnancy and making her drink champagne was absolutely disgusting. The reason why Mariah didn't want to disclose the pregnancy? Because it was early in the pregnancy. Guess what, she lost it a few weeks later.
@@simonfea2 which is why so many like to wait to tell others. Ellen is despicable.
as strong women we don’t claim her
that was so messed up
Yeah, pregnancies go wrong. And even had this one not, some people want to keep their kids out of the limelight.
Even if you don't like Mariah, you have to admit she absolutely deserved to be treated better by Ellen in that moment.
As an autistic person one of my big bug bears is 'autism spectrum' stuff. Spectrum is like a spectrum of colours. Sometimes what you're talking about isn't a colour at all, like discussing the thickness of paper or something. Autism spectrum DOES NOT MEAN IT GOES FROM MOST TO LEAST AUTISTIC. It goes from red to violet. Autistic people are on a spectrum, not people as a whole are on the autism spectrum.
This was the comment I was looking for. 👑
It's a spectrum of symptoms, not percentages.
That's a great description.
wow, TIL! thanks for the explanation
While I agree that the current use of “on the spectrum” isn’t accurate or the best term to use, the color spectrum goes from invisible light waves that are Ultraviolet, through visible color, and to other invisible light waves that are infrared. These light waves to us are effectively colorless, so the color spectrum does include colorless in it. As it currently is, the autism spectrum is from allistic to high support needs autistic. This is my TL;DR but I put it first because idk I just did
Part of why saying “on the spectrum” isnt as much of a thing anymore though is because “spectrum” as a term refers to a sort of scale between two extremes. The idea behind “on the spectrum” was that the spectrum in question would be from “a little autistic” to “very autistic” which isn’t how it works, but also, if that is the way you frame it, should include allistic people as well to include the extreme and fit the definition. The spectrum of asd is moving towards being a way to describe the level of support needs a person has while acknowledging that there is a vast range of different presentations of autism, but it still isn’t the best fit as a name for an autism diagnosis since it’s not even a disorder; it’s a neurodevelopmental difference.
@ismolatham4393 "Big bug bears"?
as a autistic person. saying everyone is a bit autistic always gives me the ick. that's not out the spectrum works.
Agreed. Diagnosed autistic person here and it's a disability, full stop. You wouldn't say "everyone is a bit blind/deaf/etc".
EXACTLY, just because a lot of people experience certain autistic traits doesn't mean you're "a bit autistic"
Oh Lord I'm not there yet but I'm dying inside.
I think the point of the spectrum joke wasn't to say that every one has a bit of autism, but more of a play on the word, spectrum. That people who aren't autistic are still, well, on a "spectrum" of people who are and aren't. That's how I interpreted it at least.
Ugh, same here. On the spectrum means you are on the spectrum.... OF AUTISM. You have to literally be born with it, I'm Autistic too and I cringe whenever I hear people saying "we're all a little Autistic :)" No.
I'm so glad that you did this !
1- her "Game of Games" show looks so much like the bully of the school putting classmates through physical and psychological ridicule in front of everybody. And you are so right about pranks ! It IS all about making the prankster laugh, not the person on the receiving end.
2 - when you listen to the "laughter" and "clapping" during this "humour" bit, you can hear that both often happen out of sync, much too soon for the punchline ; you can also hear that both laughter and clapping are suspiciously uniform in frequency/intensity and "equalised", at these moments ; I would say with great certainty that a good part of "audience reaction" was prerecorded in case of awkward silences.
3 - her body language during that bit clearly demonstrate that she couldn't care less about the audience in front of her.
4 - That is a "poor me, everybody hates me for no good reason, just because I'm a woman... etc " exercise.
I liked Ellen’s special. It helped me not feel bad for her at all
LOL
Besides Dakota Johnson’s iconic call out, another clip I’ve seen is Ellen grilling the members of the kpop group SuperM and asking them to reveal if they are dating anyone (which is a whole thing with kpop, dating is basically banned) and one of the members, Mark, just goes “why do you care”. There are obviously worse instances like what you showed in the video but her being so pushy was so infuriating
I love SuperM, and this makes me so mad 😠
yeah she pulled some shit with BTS too, including having a screaming woman run past them, as if they haven't had awful problems getting mobbed by overzealous "fans"
Honestly I don’t know SuperM but I stan Mark just for that
i'd go search that clip up now cuz mark is my bias, but i dont wanna give ellen's yt channel my money LMAOOO. another fave of mine is when Priyanka Chopra called Ellen out for NOT SHOWING UP TO HER WEDDING DESPITE BEING INVITED
@@auliamateif you search ‘mark lee ellen’ you’ll find just that clip!
The Master of Degrees is back with a banger.
he has a masters in degrees
His got 10 phds his a professor professional
Back? He posts twice a day?
Her saying “everyone is on the spectrum” is the same as people telling me that “everyone is a little autistic” when I mention I’m autistic. It’s dismissive, incorrect, and misinformed. It’s a way to tell autistic people that they should learn how to deal with it because “everyone is a little autistic”. I hate when people says that shit
The way my mouth dropped when she said she’s a strong woman. Strength is watching your mouth, doing the right thing even when it’s hard, and apologizing when you’re wrong.
Elens first girlfriend has spoken up saying that Ellen wouldnt allow her to have friends. She was extremely controlling.
a bad host, a bad boss AND a bad partner. that's the true triple crown.
I read about that. I felt bad for her.
@@3amDayDreamer rip Anne Heche
As are all Narcissists
@@Chuck_EL Yes, her death was heartbreaking. She went through a lot in her life.
I'm on the spectrum, and I don't appreciate "Everyone's a little autistic" anymore than I appreciate "Everyone has a little ADHD" or "Everyone's a little bit gay." No. Stop. It's not as cute as you think it is. It has the same energy as people claiming colorblindness. Edit: @lizlovescookies2689 has already explained it much better than I could, LOL.
Anyway, I can't decide whether this is more or less embarrassing than Roseanne Barr's.
Exactly!! Just because I’m out of breath when I run doesn’t mean “everyone’s a little asthmatic!”
Yeah.
Having that be my mother's response when I said I wanted to look into if I was autistic felt devaluing, actually.
@@komos3719Same with my mom when I brought up ADHD. "There's nothing wrong with you, you're perfect!" I never said something was wrong with me, mom, I said I have ADHD.
@@ND-nr6mx Right. In my case, she's just a little ignorant so it's not all bad but like damn....the old mindset to neurodivergence is so fearful.
4:20 never go full lumbar
To be so detached from reality to compare yourself, a multimillion-dollar CEO of your own talk show, to Ronald McDonald, a discontinued clown that does not own McDonald's, is beyond the most obtuse rubber goose green moose guava juice thing to say FRL.
I was going to say the joking about ‘do I owe back taxes?’ Gives me the same vibe as her Covid being in prison joke. Like she’s so rich she doesn’t get it. Joking about money struggle is so yuck. She thinks she can be relatable but you said it exactly-she is so detached from reality.
i guess you could call it a "fairly odd" thing for her to say...
Right. I wish Ellen had been disappeared like they did Ronald. Or at least I wish Netflix had given Ronald the stand-up special instead of Ellen. I’m sure he’d be much funnier, and half of the money could go to Ronald McDonald house charities.
It’s pretty fair, though, in that the entertainment probably doesn’t want to be the CEO of the operation. Also I literally cannot find anything suggesting she was the CEO of Ellen, so did you just make that up?
Discontinued Clown would be such a good insult
you forgot the time Ellen baited, recorded and shamed that audience member for taking 2 free hats or something. like they had a table with free merch or something and they then called out the person on air and maid them give their name and apologize to ellen. it was suuuuper gross.
LITERALLY. And she was just taking something for her friend who couldn't be there. It probably cost Ellen not even $5 for someone to take extra. She sounded like she thought she was god when she lectured/humiliated that poor woman. I still don't understand the point of that. Why alienate your own audience on purpose?
And nobody talks about the time she sicced her fans on the animal shelter Mutts & Moms for enforcing their adoption rules which SHE broke.
omg she’s so sadistic
she also made them sit in a cage in front of the audience for the whole show, if im remembering correctly
@@zaddyfaye6880 Yeah I remembered that part too like wtf
Ooof, that whole time she looked like she was seconds away from whipping out a ukulele and singing ‘toxic gossip train’ . .
that entire special was a ukulele toxic gossip train song
👏🍻
6:04 but like.,,, it wasn't that she was mean that people hated. It was that she built her career on supposedly being nice. She ended every single one of her shows with "take care of yourselves and each other". She built up this persona preaching kindness and positivity, and then people found out that it was all a lie. That the kind person she pretended to be wasn't who she really was. She didn't practice what she preached, THAT'S why people turned on her.
I'm autistic, I got professionally diagnosed at 15 and I would explain autism as less of a spectrum between "very autistic" and "not autistic" and more of like, two different operating systems. Your brain works differently and you either are or you aren't using that system. Of course some autistic people will have higher or lower support needs, and some people will have an easier or harder time "acting" or "masking" as neurotypical/allistic, it's still not a single line of less autistic to more autistic. All this to say, we are not "all on the spectrum" it just doesn't work like that.
i’m autistic too, tbh i agree with this. there IS a spectrum, but you’re either autistic or not autistic. there’s a marked difference between neurotypical thinking and social ability and neurodivergence; there’s a spectrum but it begins somewhere and that somewhere is distinct from neurotypicality.
Yeah. We're trying to move away from the term "high functioning autism" because the phasing makes it harder for some people to get support at all.
Yes! You’ve articulated this so well that now I don’t need to haha
@@maraque16my preferred nomenclature is present in the OP we're replying to: high vs low support needs. I have low support needs ("high functioning") versus my son who has high support needs ("low functioning")
Very well put. My doctor when I was diagnosed described it more as a salad bar. Like yeah, bacon bits can be there but not everybody is gonna have them. Or have as much as someone else. If that makes sense lmao.
yeah as an autistic person people saying 'wEll we're ALL on thE spectrum🤪" gives the same energy as someone saying 'wEll we're all a LITTLE bisexual'. its corny at best but it just feels like erasure 9/10.
Right it's like 😐 If we all were then why does the world make me feel like I don't belong constantly? why would it be w thing then? Ik its not that deep but bro I feel guilty even being offended or standing up for myself for that, don't wanna seem whiney. It's just like ok I'll take it I guess because I'd be more embarrassed tryna defend myself/my community
There’s no such thing as we’re all on the spectrum. She gets away with saying that’s a very damaging thing on Netflix. It’s incredulous what she gets away with.
not autistic (but neurodivergent, and also queer), and agree it's a bad and offensive joke - but offensive in that way where you can feel weird calling it out, cause you know there are people who'll say worse stuff ...
Also, and this isn't that relevant, but you could make a similar joke, but not offensive. Just have it be 'well, not on *that* spectrum', and depending on tone, maybe workshop wording and build-up, I think you could have a joke there
I must admit I used to believe that until I found out I'm just bisexual and autistic 👍
@@CherryKings SAME LMAO
It almost comes across like she "underwent testing" specifically so that she could use autism as an excuse
Good catch, I wouldn't doubt it. See it too often
No one should use autism and ADHD as an excuse. Unfortunately, many people do
@@CMStrawbridge yeah, makes me think of Sia 🙄
@@justhearmeout3959 yeees, I think that's so on point. and even if she WERE to be diagnosed, that's not a reason to not apologise and change your behaviour when being cruel to people.
It's just too bad she didn't get evaluated for ASPD instead, I have a funny feeling that one might have stuck.
27:08 im crying at the clips of them cheering being interrupted by dangelo like 😐
24:00 Drew Gooden had the funniest reaction to this. "Boy have long hair? That's not right. Boy have short hair, girl have long hair... Oh, wait"
I remember that. I genuinely laughed out loud.
SO ridiculous. Imagine being Ellen, a person who has defied gender-presentation norms for most of her entire career, and making a stand about a child having hair to their shoulders. ((I MEAN IMAGINE ANYONE DOING this it is SO none of her business))
Immediately think of that every time I see the clip. Like how was Ellen so oblivious to the irony?😭
“we’re all on the spectrum” is the new “i’m colorblind, i don’t see race” … like it’s so dismissive and helps literally no one
"we're all a bit autistic" no b.... you are NOT, otherwise autism would just be neurotypical
@@Tom_Cruise_Missile “sometimes i have social anxiety so i can totally relate to your brain literally being different from mine” like what are they on about 😂
@@819199a lot of the time it's just a way for people to diminish our struggles. sometimes out of pure misunderstanding and lack of education, other times out of willful ignorance. if everyone has struggles in some of these areas, in their mind it takes away your "excuse" to not be meeting societal expectations.
@@819199Oh my god, as someone with social anxiety, I hate it when people say that. It’s like my social anxiety doesn’t matter to them and that I should get over it. It’s not a thing I can just get over though
21:27 SERIOUSLY! Women early on in their pregnancy don’t typically tell people that they’re pregnant because the first trimester is when it is unsure if they’d keep the baby, which unfortunately what happened to Mariah
But, also the risk for miscarriage has dropped drastically by 14 weeks
It was the most insensitive and greedy behavior
It’s a puny point in the video but as a scientist, my eye is twitching.
If you don’t understand science, “chicken dreams” sound useless. If you do understand science, you understand that learning how processes work in an animal model helps humans to understand more about ourselves. It teaches us what’s similar, what’s different, and may even help us understand a process or a concept in a more simplistic way that was harder to understand whilst studying it in humans.
I know it’s a freaking joke, but it is ridiculously unintelligent and ignorant to just assume that all the top scientists are working on just that and that it’s useless science.
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Yes! Plus I am interested in chicken dreams! I would like to know what they dream about
Thanks for saying this better than I did.
How about the idea that all scientists are interchangeable?
@@emberweyenbergor the idea we need more climate scientists instead of more climate politicians! We got the science handled. For decades in fact!
Gone for four years and I didn’t even notice. Hopefully, she’s gone for good.
This was a PR statement. Not a comedy special. 😂
Why is every comedy special/reality show just an official PR statement? A way to make money from it, perhaps.
@@lizchesley6028 In this specific case, the stand up special seemed to be mostly about her cancellation and making excuses for her actions.
You know, two (or more) things can be true at the same time.
I’m strong and generous and caring and funny and did I mention I was sooo strong??
She didn't want to be a boss? She was listed as one of the executive producers, the entire time the show ran. So she was willing to get the title, credit, & money of being a boss, but not the responsibility.
I saw the trailer and thought, no thanks. Thanks for this video, because now I know I definitely don't want to watch her special.
Exactly!!! I'm just a stand up comedian; don't get mad at me if I can't do my other jobs well. If your only motivation for doing other jobs was $$$$$, then you were in it for the wrong reasons, kid! No one forced her to do any of these things. I'm sure many of us have had worse bosses; but they are not in the public eye like Ellen was.
Wow I've never seen that Taylor Swift clip before. I usually don't have much interest in her, but seeing her react like that made me feel so sad for her in that moment
Seriously. She was just a young woman trying to figure out her life in a really intense context (fame). Imagine someone shaming you for.... idk dating people? Isn't that what 23 year olds do? Jesus
@@00NoirAnd in generally it seems like women who date many different partners are shamed much more likely than men. Men having multiple relationships during teens/adulthood is considered cool and "manly" and when women do the same they're sluts etc... we live in patriarchy 💀frustrating double standards..
that clip pissed me off so much. taylor's discomfort was so overt but she could not care less.
Also, why was it such a big deal that she dated a few men? As long as she was respectful to them, who cares?
@@Lady-Seashell-Bikini The general public has always had a weird kink for slut shaming Taylor Swift - while I'm not a huge fan of everything Taylor does, I've always hated this attitude towards her. It's super weird and creepy.
Although I'd agree there is a double standard, the difference between Ellen and James also lies in the fact that Ellen was the "lets be nice to each other" host, as for James most people could tell he was a prick from the start...
Netflix really has some explaining to do. Giving specials to Matt Rife or Ellen when people like Josh Johnson are out there killing it is insane!
Josh Johnson doesn't need Netflix. He's killing it on his own, and he writes for The Daily Show
I think Netflix is showing it's true colors. they are supporting these people because they agree with them.
Josh Johnson is actually crazy talented. I have zero attention span, and last night I watched him do an hour and a half on the Diddy/50 Cent beef. the man is just riveting to listen to, whether he's telling jokes or just talking.
@@peachy_lili I listened while I worked last night and when it was over I was confused bcus it didnt feel like it was that long! He's so good!
@@peachy_liliI went into it intending to put it down halfway through so I could do some studying and I ended up watching the whole thing without realising. His standup has a way of sucking you in and it’s seriously impressive
autistic person here. It was as weird as you thought it was. If only for implying that rude and uncaring=autistic. It also gave "I don't really believe people when they say they're autistic unless they're visibly so"
"When I'm rude, it's autism. When you're autistic, it's rude."
Well you see when she's rude, that's autism. But I bet if she notices someone else being neurodivergent, that's rude to her.
@@StormSoughtGod damn, what is that quote from? Really highlights the double standard Ellen (and plenty of others) have
Seeing those clips of Mariah Carey and T.Swift makes Ellen look like the white version of Wendy Williams; invasive, humiliating, and gossiping about online rumors
THANK YOU FOR COVERING THIS ISSUE - and so perceptively. That I choose not to waste more time on HER perfidies (cutting out at 8:28) is not intended to reflect badly on YOU, Mr. D'Angelo.
Why is Netflix so determined to amplify toxicity
And they go around to cancel iconic series like dead boy detectives and other queer rep that’s not toxic 💔
I guess ragebait earns more money than subscription plans
Haye watching.
I have free Netflix from Tmobile and i can’t remember the last time I watched anything on Netflix
@@byronlee991017 you are probably 100 percent correct tbh
Oh my god this feels like a BoJack Horseman plotline
Rewatching the series currently and Yes
oh it does yeah
LMAO YES
I can’t wait for her second Biscuits Braxby interview, I’m sure she’ll be totally chill and relatable
This shit makes me have even more empathy for the BoJack characters, at least they'll actually _feel shame_ in private (even though they'll mostly keep being awful lol)
"I was hoping I'd be able to blame my behavior on autism, but it turns out I'm not autistic. Wait, if I use the "everyone's a little autistic" line, maybe I can blame my behavior on autism anyway" -Ellen's thought process, probably
(thanks for calling out the bs of this, D'Angelo)
lol
And like I said that whole thing also implies all of us autistics are mean
@@kaydwessie296 Well it is very mean of us to tell her she's not autistic after she's said she doesn't have autism /s
That isn’t what she’s saying, if you watch the whole joke she’s joking about the phrase spectrum and how she’s on the “not autistic” part of it.
5:44 also, climate change is still a problem not because scientists are not studying it hard enough. Scientists already came up with solutions to it.
"we're all on the spectrum" and "we're all a little autistic/ADHD" are comments I hear very frequently as an autistic person, and they're very often said to minimalize the struggles of neurodivergent people by making it seem like autism or other neurodivergencies aren’t a big deal. I'm not saying this was Ellen's intention, but it's still a weird and wildly inaccurate thing to say.
Not only that, it's a mindset that can greatly set back progress for accommodations for neurodivergent people. Comparing a regular amount of forgetfulness that every person has to the frequent forgetfulness (sometimes with severe consequences) of a person with ADHD minimalizes the very pressing struggles they face every day. This type of mindset leads many people to believe that accommodations aren't necessary because "everyone forgets things sometimes", so why should some people get medication/therapy/special learning plans for it?
Again, I know Ellen wasn't using it in that context, but it's still an insensitive, inaccurate, and damaging notion that I and many other neurodivergent people are sick of hearing.
it's just like saying "everybody is a little bit gay". like no??
If we got a nickel for every time we hear "we're all a little autistic!," we'd have a stable life instead of needing to spend years fighting for SSDI lmao
I think it's something I find fundamentally frustrating about "the spectrum" metaphor. its not a spectrum from "not autistic ----> most autistic," instead, the autism "spectrum" is a diverse *spectrum of symptoms* that are all specific *to autism,* but may not necessarily be experienced by *everyone with* autism. I think this is largely the fault of the organizations that want to "raise awareness" about autism and their own public communications, which get diluted and mischaracterized the more it gets telephoned, even within the mental health field.
I'm here like "You may mean the internet definition, but objectively speaking, 34/35 people are not in fact autistic"
Im also autistic and fully agree it’s so frustrating
It’s “everyone’s on the spectrum” until I get written up at work for “not being a team player” because I wasn’t being “social enough”
If Chappell Roan was invited on to The Ellen Show and Ellen tried to pull that kind of bs with her, she would probably eat Ellen alive.
i'm not a listener/fan but i love her persona because she does not put up with this absolute CRAP. go ms roan
I adore Chappell but ive been a bit out of the loop. Ive seen many comments about her in this, has something happened specifically? Im too scared to look because people are literally always ready to cancel her and I really dont want that lol.
@@thisthatbetbetter she's just very outspoken and doesn't tolerate people treating her poorly, which is a bit of a rarity in celebrity culture
@@thisthatbetbettershe went off at a paparazzi at the VMAs for being extremely rude to her and it was glorious
That BS was just how all TV was at the time. Which is stupid and awful. Chappell Roan is a product of her generation, a generation who don't tolerate bullshit TV tactics, because they grew up watching things like that happen. Good for them. Treating celebrities like nonhumans needs to end.
I'm sorry. I know this, but I'm old enough to know this; That parking break joke was just an old joke. She used to use it in her old 90s stand-up.
Reusing jokes after 30+ years may be excusable but not when there was a 30 year gap 😭
I might be dumb, but what does it even mean lol the break is super useful
Yikes. Reusing jokes from the 90s feels desperate, particularly in this context
she complains about ageism then recycles content from 30 years ago like maybe instead of complaining that people think youre too old for this you could *write better material to prove them wrong*
@itsmj3103 idk do you drive a manual? I'm assuming Ellen and anyone who laugh at that joke only drive automatics
As an autistic person, I personally find the “we’re all autistic it’s a SPECTRUM” approach an EXTREMELY disrespectful way to describe possible autism because it invalidates real autistic individuals who actually are autistic because “we’re ALLLL autistic, it’s a spectrum” just essentially means that even if you’re not autistic, you can use excuse’s for your “autistic” behaviors while truly autistic people are shamed, excluded, or discriminated against because of those behaviors. It’s just extremely weird & gross & quite ableist to me. I appreciate you calling it out D’Angelo & not invalidating the autistic experience & community because we need more of that. People, autistic or not, should call out comments like that which create stereotypes that harm autistic people. Thank you for coming to my autism Ted talk
That Taylor Swift reaction was not comedic omg the people laughing wtf??? None of that was comedic that was 100% her hurting. Also poor Mariah she’s laughing yes but she’d doing that because she knows that Ellen is so beloved that she can’t put her in her place on a live audience tv taping💀
also: she had a miscarriage shortly after, which must have made this ever more humiliating
for what it's worth pretty sure most talk shows do at least some doctoring of audience reactions in post production to make themselves look better, so I consider those more like a laugh track in a sitcom than an accurate representation of anything
i am SO enrolled right now
Based name and pfp btw. And that is now a sentence in my vocabulary that means "invested". Thank you for your service 😂🩵
@@lils6407 it’s my honor 🫡
The pfp enhances this comment so much 😂
autistic viewer and yes, you are absolutely right to feel grossed out by the 'everyones on the spectrum' jokes bc 1) that is not how autism works (its a spectrum of different social, sensory, learning and motor needs, not a spectrum of 'most to least' - which would be a line and not a spectrum but i digress). and 2) people saying that is usually used to disparage and reduce the struggles of autistic people. banger video as always, hope ur having a good day :D
I just wanted to thank you for being a super cool, level-headed, down to earth human being. Been watching you from the beginning and you never let your ego get the best of you. Kudos to your parents for raising a proper gentleman, as well. ❤
That clip of Taylor is worse within the context of the time. 2012-13 was really bad in terms of online hate for her, largely due to ppl judging her dating history, so if she had walked out during the interview, she would’ve gotten dragged online. But staying meant she had to deal with Ellen’s bs. So shitty all around.
And the Mariah clip makes me so sad every time.
And she's 23. Like. Let's not forget how young that is.
You're so right, I completely forgot that Taylor went through that over a decade ago
she is also a possible creep considering she allegedly dated a 17 year old which if true less than 2 shits how she feels. If not, then i feel different.
Ellen was essentially calling Taylor a slut in front of a live studio audience and trying to get her to participate in it.
Taylor and Zac Efron once played a song to Ellen about how every time they come on the show it's really weird because Ellen insists they're dating 💀
icb Ellen said "they hate me bc I'm a strong woman" the same week Uglies and 143 dropped... 2010s feminism is back, baby
Oh no... I don't need this, I don't want this...
They made Uglies into a movie?? How wtf
@@harashe1000protect yourself. don’t look it up💀
Bruh 😂😂
@@harashe1000 Yup, but wouldn't recommend look it up
I’m diagnosed with autism- you’re right D’Angelo it is considered quite offensive to say all people are on the spectrum because then autism simply would not exist and we wouldn’t feel alienated constantly in our daily lives.
Yeah. I'm fine with NT people relating to my experiences here and there because I'm all for fostering mutual understanding and shit, but that phrase is just not it. Especially since they only say it when they want to excuse some crappy behavior or to dismiss us when we're inconvenient.
Exactly!!!
@@LittleMissLounge"Oh you're not different, everyone feels that way sometimes. Anyway, stop acting like that."
@@ND-nr6mxexactly. it's just used as a form of erasure and dismissal a lot of the time. it's their way of justifying their ableist beliefs that you are inherently less than for not functioning in the same way they do. so they just take away your "excuse" to function differently and make it into a character flaw. everyone else struggles with some of these things sometimes, what's your big issue. type of thing.
For some reason your channel was recommended. Not sure who you are but now I have subscribed.
Loved your nostalgia comment of 5 seconds of 5 minutes before something was said. I will go back and get exact quote.
:)
I think Netflix is genuinely starting to use ragebait as part of their marketing formula now.
I’m surprised they don’t have a tab just called “Rageflix”
Starting??!
Pretty explicitly, yes
I meannnnn, the mere existence of Love is Blind on Netflix is all I need to confirm this as true😂
Starting?
Same logic: awww no one wants to be my friend because my favorite color is green, I like carrots, and I'm racist! Like HMMMM I WONDER WHAT IT IS
💀💀💀
Green you sicko? GREEN!
I could never befriend a person like that. Will they expect me to eat carrots too??
Do you think D’angelo stays in heaven because he lives in fear of the content he’s created?
nah he just did a retrospective yesterday
yes. without a doubt
The duality of man
Every self righteous individual has dirt somewhere, it's only a matter of time.
@@JahmBProductshe already talked about his regrets. Chill
Thank you for doing this video. I had seen her special on Netflix but I was not about to give her my view so thank you for informing me how bad it was without having to give her my money, so to speak. That part with the 1 min standing ovation kind of reminded me of a clip from a Scientology gala where they just applauded for like five min and it was required like they had to....I wonder like do we need to check on the audience do we know if they where there of their own free will?
I'm not a Taylor Swift fan or defender, but holy shit that sucked, I can't imagine humiliating a TWENTY-THREE YEAR OLD like that
This was during the heyday of giving Taylor shit for anything, and supporting Kanye's sexual harassment and dehumanizing of her too.
I hate her using her marginalizations as excuses for her behavior.
Yeah, I'm not saying it's easy to be publically queer now or anything, but easier than the 90s, and it probably isn't that hard when you're super rich, like, what is anyone going to do to you. You're in Disney movies. You're fine.
Yes please make her stop ..
4:57 this is the purest form of actual virtue signaling i’ve ever seen. so clearly said just for cheers and not for real concern for the environment
That Mariah clip is extra disgusting because of all the awful stuff that came after. That poor woman
Agreed