Hero beat was the first deck I ever played. Top decking a miracle fusion against better players who played better decks was one of the best moments in Yugioh for me. Alius > stratos
This was the format I started playing competitive yugioh. Brings back the high school memories of boba and tater tots around the corner of locals, rushing to sign up on time. Thanks for the rush of good memories!
At 23:43 MBT adds off Pot Of Duality with Thunder King on field. Funny story, back in 2015 I was playing yosenju with thunder King and did the same play during game 3 of the final round of a regional. My opponent waited for this to resolve and me shuffle to create a irreversible game state then called a judge who was forced to give me a game loss and I missed top cut by 4 spots 😀
How is that an irreversible game state? The card added to hand is public knowledge, so it can easily be sent back into the deck. Is it the fact that the deck was shuffled? Unless the top of the deck was purposely stacked beforehand by another effect (like a SPYRAL card or whatever), then the top card(s) of the deck was an unknown before activating the Duality, and it still is after putting the cards back in and shuffling. If anything, I would have given a warning to both players and told you guys to continue with the duel after returning the added card to the deck and shuffling. I'd even have given you the Duality back because of illegal activation. Your opponent was clearly sharking, trying to get you to commit to this irreversible game state...
The head judge deemed that there was no way to know the order of the cards outside the top 3 revealed causing it irreversible. I was a bit upset as thr guy was clearly sharking and even after told me he already had his invite for Nats that season and I was still working for mine.
@@emodadYGO the order of the deck is in an unknown state so it's nonsense if the judge said that the game state is irreversible (since it is already UNKNOWN in the first place), it's unfortunate :(
Cimoooo should have left the hornet equipped to hopper. He knew mbt was playing hero beat with no current back row. Hornet gives 500 attack and all hero beat is 1900s.
Yes the Hopper was at 2200. He should have just left the Hornet equipped. He misplayed a second time by not using Judgement to negate Hero Blast. If he had, he could destroy the other back row and search Dragonfly.
Been waiting for this episode for so long. I got back into Yugioh near the end of last year after putting together my Joe Giorlando inspired 2012 format Hero Beat deck. It was the last format I played before I couldn't keep up with the game anymore; just before pendulum came out I think. Absolutely my favorite deck of all time, featuring Neos Alius my favorite card of all time. Let's fucking GO MBT!
So, bad deck idea, but you can make a sparkman/neos alias hero deck revolving around the spiral dragon 'normal' support while sprinkling in honest / honesty neos. - IF you demanded even more hand traps, you also have access to the tenyi handtraps.
YES, THIS IS IT I REMEMBER EVERYTHING OF THIS HERO DECK Such a beautiful burst of nostalgia when I returned to the game, I didn't even hear about the tournament, just saw HERO beat and saw it was kind of neat.
Considering Gravity Bind has no maintenance cost and they more of less play the same role I don't think so. 1000 points per turn would be a bit much for that effect.
“Peace” is the key word. 100LP is supposed to be non-agressive and not harmful. Hence the word PEACE. That was probably their thought process. Do you see what I am saying though?
Cimo activating Hornet, attached to Hopper game 1 seemed like a misplay. In a simplified board state, a 2200 attacker would've been a much bigger threat, than getting in 1700 more points of damage. Had he kept it attached, he wouldn't have gotten ran over the very next turn.
Dam MBT isnt a true HERO player, and doesn't realize Stratos back in the day did not have to declare which effect it was activating on summon, it just attempts to resolve with an effect
Having played competitively during this time, I can tell you that there was a very cheeky play with CotH that contributed to the popularity of the card after it was removed from the F&L list. What people would do a lot turn 1 is go TGU into Sangan, overlay for #17, detach for its effect, set 1 and pass. This single set card was CotH and with MST at 3, opponents were very eager to blind space a single set backrow which would get mega punished by chaining Call to grab the detached Sangan.
I am SO excited for next week. If next week is the event I think it is, I REALLY hope that MBT will be piloting one of the dark horses that came from the Top 8 in YCS Dallas, which took place a month after this one
Cimo always shits on the 100 maintenance cost of messenger, but that literally makes the card better lmao. The card control, on THEIR turn, can decide to not pay and then attack with their monsters. The 100 lp cost is meant to be tiny, almost non existence
This is one of the best History episodes ever. So intense, and I really love both decks. Both decks have this midrange pressure, and backrow to deal with stun cards that would otherwise be killer. and I really am getting to love inzektors :D
Doesn't Judgment the Hero Blast, but drops it on the vanilla it brought back after MBT got the advantage from it already... Gotta love them big brain plays.
I never know why, but i had no idea Heavy Storm still was legal at this point, i think Harpie's Feather Duster is not legal anymore at this point, but dang Storm was legal for a long time.
My theory with Messenger of Peace is that it was supposed to be 1000LP, but the guy tho typed out the card made a typo and left out a zero, and Konami just went with it.
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These videos make me want to get back into yugioh! Dueling my buddy when we were kids was such a fun time and this reminds me of it. Building random decks and using them all night 😂
Idk if this deck was ever played at all but it reminds me of jaden's best decks in the tag force games which had no fusion involved at all. It was just wrath of neos beatdown. The only time neos alius' effect ever mattered as he would revive neos alius with O oversoul or something, normal summon it then nuke the board with wrath of neos. but more ideal was using wrath of neos then using monster reborn or something and attacking the empty field. It had prisma too to act as extra copies of neos and to put neos in the grave for the numerous revival spells it was running. Pretty swaggy deck honestly. Most of the decks in those games were based on real decks so im wondering if it was ever a thing. someone send it to joseph for history of jank.
Day number next of wanting to see more support in general for Aromas, Fortune Fairies, Fortune Ladies, Earthbound Immortals, Reptiliannes, Dragonmaids, Gimmick Puppets, Infernitys, Cyber Angels, Rikkas, Madolches, Plant Princesses, and Ice Barriers
@@shawnli4746 Bruh, the Reptilianne archetype was introduced during the 5D's era. You must have the OG Reptiliannes confused with their modern support...
1. We need a history of Tier 0. Can you do a video covering the tier 0 formats? ex. Tele-dad vs Zoodiac 2. Can you do a game of modern Yugioh with everything at 3? I don't think some cards are as busted as people think!
If I must delve into the Mind of Billy Brake for a sec... My best Guess is Hopper over Ladybug as a Beat Stick in case a Skill Beat or HERO Beat threw Hands and *M O N K E I* over a Skill Drain
This list decktype was the best deck on September 2010 and honestly March 2011. This series covered the former with Angel Flores(who won 3 YCS with the deck) YCS winning list and it mainly differs in Flores build being full control(no maindeck Miracle Fusion) although generally most/every Hero deck at this time rans the AliusSpark package.
Lol Cimo made a bunch of misplays but John also misplays in game 2. You can't use Duality if you have Thunder King on the field because it's still considered adding from deck to hand.
Hero beat was the first deck I ever played. Top decking a miracle fusion against better players who played better decks was one of the best moments in Yugioh for me. Alius > stratos
True embodiment of the HERO
Little and Big City OG decks 😎
And Thank God That Shit Deck Lost!
Same, deck was always so good to me. No cards on field or hand, top Stratos to make an Excalibur or top miracle fusion, such classic moments.
my favourite couple uploading a vid on one of my favourite decks 💕💕💕
Rope
Honestly their friendship is a bigger part of me loving this series than I realize
This was the format I started playing competitive yugioh. Brings back the high school memories of boba and tater tots around the corner of locals, rushing to sign up on time. Thanks for the rush of good memories!
History of Yu-Gi-Oh! episode wins
Cimoooooooo: 34
MBT: 34
The entire episode, I had "I need a hero" stuck in my head
xP thanks for getting that stuck in my head too
@@Marcusjnmc You're welcome :)
Wtf we're already at Episode 68???
0:41 MBT's Deck: The HERO deck that saved the game? 4:18 And Cimooo's deck: Inzektors
9:58 Game 1 18:00 Game 2 25:56 Game 3
I love that Cimoooooooo spent 5 minutes talking us through inzektors.
At 23:43 MBT adds off Pot Of Duality with Thunder King on field.
Funny story, back in 2015 I was playing yosenju with thunder King and did the same play during game 3 of the final round of a regional. My opponent waited for this to resolve and me shuffle to create a irreversible game state then called a judge who was forced to give me a game loss and I missed top cut by 4 spots 😀
How is that an irreversible game state? The card added to hand is public knowledge, so it can easily be sent back into the deck.
Is it the fact that the deck was shuffled? Unless the top of the deck was purposely stacked beforehand by another effect (like a SPYRAL card or whatever), then the top card(s) of the deck was an unknown before activating the Duality, and it still is after putting the cards back in and shuffling.
If anything, I would have given a warning to both players and told you guys to continue with the duel after returning the added card to the deck and shuffling. I'd even have given you the Duality back because of illegal activation.
Your opponent was clearly sharking, trying to get you to commit to this irreversible game state...
@@ShrankTheFirst yup, agree
The head judge deemed that there was no way to know the order of the cards outside the top 3 revealed causing it irreversible. I was a bit upset as thr guy was clearly sharking and even after told me he already had his invite for Nats that season and I was still working for mine.
@@emodadYGO the order of the deck is in an unknown state so it's nonsense if the judge said that the game state is irreversible (since it is already UNKNOWN in the first place), it's unfortunate :(
@@emodadYGO I think the head judge was wrong because you can just put the card back and reshuffle.
MBT in 23:45 activated Duality while control a Thunder King, that's illegal play.
Immediately after calling Cimo a cheater lmao
@@DB-YGO yeah, this is the best thing
They clearly didn’t play this format 💀
@@andresgenshinclips4229 I'm pretty sure they did haha got nothing to do with game knowledge tbf buddy (it's literally reading)
Im so glad to hear Cimooo talk so positively about 2012 format before the match.
Cimoooo should have left the hornet equipped to hopper. He knew mbt was playing hero beat with no current back row. Hornet gives 500 attack and all hero beat is 1900s.
Yes the Hopper was at 2200. He should have just left the Hornet equipped. He misplayed a second time by not using Judgement to negate Hero Blast. If he had, he could destroy the other back row and search Dragonfly.
I think, Cimo tried playing around Miracle Fusion and Great Tornado
Been waiting for this episode for so long. I got back into Yugioh near the end of last year after putting together my Joe Giorlando inspired 2012 format Hero Beat deck. It was the last format I played before I couldn't keep up with the game anymore; just before pendulum came out I think. Absolutely my favorite deck of all time, featuring Neos Alius my favorite card of all time. Let's fucking GO MBT!
there is actually a good amount of time between 2012 and when pendulums came out. They were introduced with Duelist Alliance in August of 2014.
So, bad deck idea, but you can make a sparkman/neos alias hero deck revolving around the spiral dragon 'normal' support while sprinkling in honest / honesty neos. - IF you demanded even more hand traps, you also have access to the tenyi handtraps.
YES, THIS IS IT
I REMEMBER EVERYTHING OF THIS HERO DECK
Such a beautiful burst of nostalgia when I returned to the game, I didn't even hear about the tournament, just saw HERO beat and saw it was kind of neat.
You just swear someone at Konami forgot a 0 when typing out Messenger of Peace for print and just never fixed it.
Tbh it's still fair even with a pitiful 100 LP/turn maintenance cost...
Considering Gravity Bind has no maintenance cost and they more of less play the same role I don't think so. 1000 points per turn would be a bit much for that effect.
I've always taken the negligible cost as being intended as an on/off switch for its controller.
“Peace” is the key word. 100LP is supposed to be non-agressive and not harmful. Hence the word PEACE. That was probably their thought process. Do you see what I am saying though?
As someone who’s being playing a lot of hero in masterduel I really like seeing the history of the deck :D
Illegal Pot of Duality under Thunder King at 23:45? That isn't even an obscure ruling, every single person who played in that era should know that.
Cimo activating Hornet, attached to Hopper game 1 seemed like a misplay. In a simplified board state, a 2200 attacker would've been a much bigger threat, than getting in 1700 more points of damage. Had he kept it attached, he wouldn't have gotten ran over the very next turn.
In 16:25 why didn't Cimo use Solemn Judgment to negate the Hero Blast if he was gonna negate the summon of the Neos Alius anyways?
Literally said that out loud made no sense
hes slowly animorphing from bad duelist into the literal worst yugioh player of all time. that sequence was irredeemable.
makes absolutely zero sense
Good cc aren't always the best in the game
@@jacka7xhollow Exact same, he was going "I need a Dragonfly"
It's a Dragonfly RIGHT THERE if he Judgment.
Dam MBT isnt a true HERO player, and doesn't realize Stratos back in the day did not have to declare which effect it was activating on summon, it just attempts to resolve with an effect
Wait, doesn't it mean you can't activate it under Thunder King?
@Lorens4444 ...no? You know which effect you can activate under thunder king buddy, come on
This hero deck was so fun... for me anyways. I also played super poly in this... was so fu***ing good
It's in the Sideboard, I think this was before Escuridao too
But I'm really hoping we see full super poly hero control too
Having played competitively during this time, I can tell you that there was a very cheeky play with CotH that contributed to the popularity of the card after it was removed from the F&L list. What people would do a lot turn 1 is go TGU into Sangan, overlay for #17, detach for its effect, set 1 and pass. This single set card was CotH and with MST at 3, opponents were very eager to blind space a single set backrow which would get mega punished by chaining Call to grab the detached Sangan.
1:41 best guest feature
Everyone so focused on the illegal pot of Duality that barely anybody even commented on the fact that Cimo still playing BLS with no lights in deck 😂
At least bring back the live patron readings for the ones with MBT, we need his reaction to the patron names
It was MBT's idea for Cimo to do it this new way.
@@adolcorsei7390 We don't care.
I'm pretty sure it's done this way so MBT doesn't have to hear them
ah the nostalgia
Bubble Beat was the last deck I played IRL. Different from hero beat but close enough to hit the nostalgia.
I am SO excited for next week. If next week is the event I think it is, I REALLY hope that MBT will be piloting one of the dark horses that came from the Top 8 in YCS Dallas, which took place a month after this one
Cimo:how will you deal with mesenger of peace
Mbt:i will ignore it
Cimo always shits on the 100 maintenance cost of messenger, but that literally makes the card better lmao. The card control, on THEIR turn, can decide to not pay and then attack with their monsters. The 100 lp cost is meant to be tiny, almost non existence
Currently playing them in Master Duel and I’m having so much fun playing the deck I built when I was younger!
In game 1 why didn’t cimo just solemn the hero blast rather than the normal summon of alias? Wow
Probably mixed up judgment and warning
Real question: Why didn't he chain mst to skill drain in game 2? Zenmains would have survived and shadow impresoning mirror would have been destroyed.
This is one of the best History episodes ever. So intense, and I really love both decks. Both decks have this midrange pressure, and backrow to deal with stun cards that would otherwise be killer. and I really am getting to love inzektors :D
Doesn't Judgment the Hero Blast, but drops it on the vanilla it brought back after MBT got the advantage from it already... Gotta love them big brain plays.
Yeah that gave me a tumor
Some one mentioned he probably mixed up the solemns
Joe Giorlandos deck truly brings a tear to my eye. It's the most beautiful deck I've ever seen. I still watch his profile sometimes.
I never know why, but i had no idea Heavy Storm still was legal at this point, i think Harpie's Feather Duster is not legal anymore at this point, but dang Storm was legal for a long time.
THIS
THIS WAS THE HERO DECK I WISHED I COULD HAVE BEEN
I LOST ON THE BUBBLE ROUND 12 OF THE 100TH YCS
ALSO
Worlds 2019 Baby rage never forget
My theory with Messenger of Peace is that it was supposed to be 1000LP, but the guy tho typed out the card made a typo and left out a zero, and Konami just went with it.
The patron reading at the end is what I end up looking forward to the most.
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Mbt: Can't add off ria oh cimoooooooo
Mbt: "In main 2 I'll activate duality"
14:28 Cimo out of context moment N° 245
Great match. Interesting to see that even with combos, these decks aren't reliant on the extra deck.
At 23:45 did I miss something? I'm pretty sure you can't use Duality under Rai-oh so if I'm correct that's an illegal activation by MBT
cimo dropping 2 history of jank this week
I believe hopper was ran for a single tournament because it was ruled that it's effect let you poke going first
23:50 dang, MBT with the one-sided skill drain AND the one-sided Thunder King Rai-Oh.
These videos make me want to get back into yugioh! Dueling my buddy when we were kids was such a fun time and this reminds me of it. Building random decks and using them all night 😂
I was kinda hoping for the bubble beats version of the HERO build, but still wonderful games all around. Thank you for the content.
That was surprisingly more back-and-forth I thought it would be
0:45 Deck List / Breakdown
11:10 Duels
Messenger of Peace was meant to have a 1000 LP maintenance cost, but it was written as 100 due to a typo and just never fixed, iirc.
Idk if this deck was ever played at all but it reminds me of jaden's best decks in the tag force games which had no fusion involved at all. It was just wrath of neos beatdown. The only time neos alius' effect ever mattered as he would revive neos alius with O oversoul or something, normal summon it then nuke the board with wrath of neos. but more ideal was using wrath of neos then using monster reborn or something and attacking the empty field. It had prisma too to act as extra copies of neos and to put neos in the grave for the numerous revival spells it was running. Pretty swaggy deck honestly. Most of the decks in those games were based on real decks so im wondering if it was ever a thing.
someone send it to joseph for history of jank.
There was a Wrath of Neos Hero Brat featured deck that enters one of 5d era ycs but never really a commonly used build iirc
Game 1 9:58
Game 2 18:00
Game 3 25:56
This deck was so fun dirt cheap and really good.
Cimo's reaction to getting Maxx C'd at 27:40 broke me lmao
What another phenomenal set of games man. Great stuff guys.
I swear Cimo draws 3 of a card so much in this series.
Triple Kalut in Progression...
At 16:18 why didn't Alex judgment Hero Blast?
That top-decked RotA was why Bubble Beat was eventually superior to this so at least you had additional Warrior options.
Perfect length of time to get me through gym cardio. Game three was class 😂
Literally the only videos I don’t skip the donations section 😭
I can’t wait until we see messenger of peace again when bujins are doing their shenanigans
Yep, and MBT said that E Hero never were meta¡¡¡
Get your game on.¡
Inzektor was a seriously interesting deck. kind of unique how they utilized equips.
Not to play against lol it was rough
I miss seeing the co-host reactions to the patreon read...
Day number next of wanting to see more support in general for Aromas, Fortune Fairies, Fortune Ladies, Earthbound Immortals, Reptiliannes, Dragonmaids, Gimmick Puppets, Infernitys, Cyber Angels, Rikkas, Madolches, Plant Princesses, and Ice Barriers
Reptiliannes were in burst of destiny. You must have been living in a rock.
@@shawnli4746 Bruh, the Reptilianne archetype was introduced during the 5D's era. You must have the OG Reptiliannes confused with their modern support...
If only Joseph activated the solemn on heavy storm so he could keep the mirror and the torrential during game 2
Would be fun to see Cimo start guessing the reason behind the even or odd before MBT gives the answer.
And this is why you main at least 2 super polys. Easy way to pitch for cost and to get Zero, Escurida and Shining
Cimo grabbing Tour Guide with Tour Guide in game 2 rather than Sangan to search Hornet ☠️
Just looking at that HERO list made me happy.
1. We need a history of Tier 0. Can you do a video covering the tier 0 formats? ex. Tele-dad vs Zoodiac
2. Can you do a game of modern Yugioh with everything at 3? I don't think some cards are as busted as people think!
For the second one I’d heavily recommend checking out MBTs Moron Banlist Tournament. It’s not everything off the list but it’s a lot.
MBT using that duality while Thunder King is on field
The Hero Always wins in the end
Inserts non funny raigeki joke*
Bubble Beat is so fun Absolute Zero was such an amazing card
Come really MOPped the floor with our boi this week.
Not gonna lie as soon as I saw Safe Zone in Inzektors I was sure we were seeing a Master Key Beetle line incoming
I could unironically watch this 2012 format for 40 straight episodes
Ah Maxx C, after playing master duel I won't ever forget
I used to use safe zone to make my beelze of the diabolical dragons "invincible" lmao good times
That third game was like an anime duel
Good episode, really hoping to see bubblebeat soon 👀🤞🏾
Cimo laugh talking every sentence
Joseph playing a control Deck vs Joseph´s Masculine Urge to overextend and potentially throw
I got into yu gi oh by watching yu gi oh GX and I love the hero archetype
I love these videos. Please make more
I wish these decks was playing electric snake to deal with the wind-up loop 😂
Heads up Cimo since you guys don’t seem to know the switch from SJC to YCS happened in 2010. Edison was the last SJC
Love your content keep it up
THE HERO DECK LETS GO :D
That messenger of peace broke MBT for a moment.
If I must delve into the Mind of Billy Brake for a sec...
My best Guess is Hopper over Ladybug as a Beat Stick in case a Skill Beat or HERO Beat threw Hands and *M O N K E I* over a Skill Drain
Did anyone else notice he duality with thunder king on his field ? Skill drain was gone…
I like the a hero lives version with super poly main deck way more
I feel like we've seen this hero deck already
MBT played it on stream with RJ during the subathon, might be what you're remembering.
@@broonloops that's probably it
This list decktype was the best deck on September 2010 and honestly March 2011. This series covered the former with Angel Flores(who won 3 YCS with the deck) YCS winning list and it mainly differs in Flores build being full control(no maindeck Miracle Fusion) although generally most/every Hero deck at this time rans the AliusSpark package.
its so weird seeing Hero Beat without bubbleman in it.
gosh guys you didn't get a right move this time ahahahah still funny af as always
Based on the thumbnail I figured we'd see literally any fusion summon in this video, silly me
15:40 fantastic timing
I remember ten years agl thinking the hero deck was bad soley because it only had 8-10 creatures in it
Pretty sure Zenmaines does proc on end phase even after being set with Book because it was activated that turn.
I don't see that in any old rulings.
How? in the end phase, It isn't face up to activate the effect which would destroy a card.
Lol Cimo made a bunch of misplays but John also misplays in game 2. You can't use Duality if you have Thunder King on the field because it's still considered adding from deck to hand.
Joseph used pot of duality with thunder king out 😂