Snap-on -VS- JH Williams ( SSDMR4BG / WRS-1 ) Ratcheting Screwdrivers - MADE IN USA
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- Following up on the Snap-on vs MegaPro ratcheting screwdriver video -- a LOT of viewers commented that there is a much cheaper alternative to the Snap-on version -- JH Williams.
Both Snap-on & JH Williams are made/owned/sold by Snap-on....but subtract the name & a few features, and you end up with an almost identical version at half the cost!
Williams WRS-1 vs Snap-on SSDMR4BG
In this video we compare the Snap-on directly to the JH Williams equivalent & you can see first hand how they stack up!
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I have both. The snap-on for 29 years(present from dad on my 16th birthday) and the Williams for 13 years. Had the ratchet mech replaced by a snap-on truck 3 years ago. Use both screwdrivers everyday doing Audio /Video installation. We've tried every screwdriver from Lowe's, Home Depot, Sears, and Harbor freight and these are the two that remain on the tool pallet. Once you learn how to pull the bit out and hold it while you dump the other bits in your hand and drop the others back in the end, it is quicker than any bit holder we've tried. The snap-on gets grabbed first, the knurled shaft does make a difference when your starting wall plates and other low friction screws. The long shafts make the screwdriver handle and balance well and they fit in our tool pallets really well. Both are well worth the money for tools that get used everyday and have lasted as long as they have. Thanks for the review!
I can't even imagine using it without the knurled shank. The new snap on one with the protruting knob allowing one finger use of the ratchet mechanism is far superior to both. I have had the snap on for almost 20yrs and replaced it once because of a bad mechanism.
@@patrickwelch620 the other snap-on screwdriver that you described with a protruding knob, do you know the model number of that one
@@wireitnow2 SGDMRCE4G
No sir your wrong. That is not a just an O ring, it’s a Snap On O ring worth $35
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@@RealToolReviews Hi, can u pls shed more light on which factory manufactures these screwdrivers?
My Williams came with a O-Ring. Are these made by Williams ?
@@therealb888 I believe snap ons website lists where the factory’s are and what they produce :)
@@jonathanhill7295 thanks, I've always liked the snap on design but felt they're overpriced. Interesting to see if there are oem alternatives
Th Williams I just ordered was on a Amazon price drop for $27.90. It came with the O-ring on the end cap.
You seriously give the most professional and informative reviews. You answer questions I wouldn't even think to ask , keep up the good work !!
But he doesn't USE the screw drivers.... IF he did, you could see why the Snap-on is the winner
Thanks for this comparison. I almost dropped the coin on the snap on but found the williams on ebay (suncoast tool; an authorized seller) and with a coupon and some ebay bucks I had I ended up paying $20 for it. Something I did notice, the one I purchased came with tan o-ring preinstalled. It's been working great so far.
Thanks again, and subscribed. :-)
mine in the mail today it was $29 and some change and it had an O-ring thanks great review
I had bought one of the Snap-on's with 3 lengths of interchangeable shafts for a friend 20+ years ago. he loves it still.
great review. I had no idea this Williams tool existed and I've been buying that Snap-on one for the past 5 years... could have saved me hundreds of dollars and shop tools for my technicians!!!.
one thing you should have done is maybe a tensile strength test... maybe drop test off a building... or even a bend
Thank you for the info, purchased through your link 👍
Thank you for another informative comparison. I'll probably purchase a JH Williams driver.
Thanks for that review. For me the Williams would work great.
Love your stuff , keep up the videos
Excellent work man
my Williams has a magnet in bottom that holds bit,extends out in case I drop anything. Also has a thumb ratchet,a bunch of bits. I ordered mine 1-2yrs ago off ebay. I love it !!
I have the soft grip version of the snap on ratchet and it's great. It has a high tooth ratchet count that shines when used in tight places. I also have the megapro ratchet. It has a lower tooth ratchet count that works best with rusted or super tight screws. They bother serve their purpose really well.
Man I really like your channel. I will be looking in to the Williams brand!
I can tell you from 26 years of experience. IF you have to disassemble anything that was put together BY a Machine, with Machine screws, the Snap-on is the clear winner. Why? This video did not actually SHOW these tools being used, so you'll have to take my word for it. When you "Grab" the handle of the Snap-on, you naturally put your Thumb down the shaft in the area made for it to Break free a factory installed screw. This adds to your grip, and total torque applied. Once screw is loose, you spin the knurled shaft and the top ratchets easily as you spin the screw out. Less wrist wear and tear and 6X faster that your wrist. For a pro, this difference is Time, and that's money and less wrist problems down the road. If you make money with your tools, this can pay for itself in a couple days, the difference in price. I am NOT at all involved with Snap-on...
As always, great reveiw! Off topic question, when are you going to perform a Review of Milwaukee's 2861-22 mid torque impact. I am foaming at the mouth to get one & my normal suppliers (CPO (don't carry yet)& Home Depot (have on website but out of stock) don't carry yet! I owner the DeWalt 1/2 inch but due to a design flaw, I'm gonna purchase the new impact for my company needs as a mobile tech. I would love your input. Thanks for continuing to keep your standards high & classy.
I've got a snap on ratcheting screwdriver on order right now. This video kinda brings the GRR out of me...lol
I have a j h Williams ratchet that I remember my father showing me a few years before he passed away saying that it belonged to his grandfather. It was all seized up because it was left in a very wet shop.
My father said he wanted to have it rebuilt,
I recently came across it while I was switching tool boxes so I decided to clean it up and take out the mechanism and see what it look like. A little bit penetrating fluid and a couple of whacks with a dead blow to loosen it up and this heavily neglected 60 something year old ratchet works beautifully! Just as well as some of my older snap-on's.
Good review. How about the magnetic bit holding strength? My Snap-On will pick up a large bolt.
My shop builds and repairs custom technology and I picked up the Snap On for me and my employees and we all love them. I do really like the Williams quality for the price that’s excellent
I see you have a Proto 1/2" mini impact wrench in the back ground, did you ever review the wrench. I am thinking about purchasing it. Thanks for the reviews.
did any brake clean get into the bit compartment? With the Williams not having the o-ring? i have a snap-on one that my dad handed down to me probably over 10 years old and it still works great. only thing is sometimes the end cap will get almost stuck and really hard to come off but doesn't appear to have cross threaded. gets a little jammed up. not sure if it's because of the old plastic threads or what. i want to buy a new one but hey if the Williams is half price and same quality i might as well go for that. assuming that the inside parts that ratchet are the same. .. You should have cracked them open
That's cool. Are these the best ratcheting drivers? I'm talking about teeth count and the way it stores the bits. I used to have the red snap on one many years ago.
Thanks for the video! William WRS-1 seems like my choice!
Great reviews. Something I just wanted to note. I've bought a couple of the Williams versions for myself and friends. Every single one of them had an o-ring installed. I think you're might have just been missing.
Maybe the added it after this video ---- or if you bought before it, maybe they removed them after I bought it. It was brand new sealed in a plastic bag from Amazon when I got it.
Real Tool Reviews Very possibly. I'm pretty sure mine were packaged as well and I've bought one both before and after the video. Who knows. Just thought it was interesting enough to mention. 👍
My Williams screwdriver came with an o-ring on the cap. Ordered from Amazon.
I have had the lime green one for about 40 years. I used it almost every day at work. Now that I’m retired I took it apart to clean and lubricant. It works like new and would recommend to anyone.
Another difference is that Snap On handle is the greatest handle design *ever*
Oh yeah... This is TRUE !
I picked up the two pack Milwaukee ratcheting screwdriver with the stubby on clearance at Home Depot to $5.....honestly though, that snap on screwdriver looks nice as hell.
Great Video
thanks for adding y b e link to amazon for the screwdriver
awesome review. i never knew they were the same company :P
Can you do a video of impacts with muffler on vs off. Thanks.
What is the purpose of the small square notch on the twist cap for changing the ratcheting direction on each of the screwdrivers?
For the chemical test, you should have used brake fluid. I had a small amount of DOT 3 brake fluid leak from the bottle it was in onto the plastic handle of an old "4-in-1" screwdriver and it melted into the plastic.
Harbor Freight has a 26 piece set for $10. I've had mine for awhile and like it a lot.
just saved me money! thanks! williams it issss!
Good review, I not sure but doesn't snap-on own williams. Also the texture of the plastic handles are mostly from the EDM burn of the mold that made them.
if i want to buy i'll buy both snap on to keep it in showcase and use Williams
So helpful. I had no idea Williams and Snap-On were the same brand. I just need something reliable to build computers with, so no reason to pay twice the price for what the Snap-On has.
Williams (snap-on) and Proto (Stanley) are the most common brands I've seen in an industrial setting.
Get some Wera and Wiha ratcheting screwdrivers and compare them vs the snap on. I can't understand how the snap on doesn't even have a decent bit holder for the bits.
I own the Williams screwdriver and it's good quality except the magnetic puck in the shaft that retains the bits fell out after very little use. Some glue took care of that though.
JH Williams has been around for a very longtime. I'm 52 and my grandfather had a small 3/8 drive set when he worked at the Brooklyn Navy Yard.
JH Williams used to make Vulcan tools too.
can you replace the shaft in the Williams screwdriver
Tools Delivered has the Williams for 27.70, that is a great price point for a ratcheting screwdriver that is pretty much the same thing as the Snap-On.
You should do more williams tools vs snapon. !
I do not have either, probably won't buy either. I see the Williams being advantage on price, but I like the molding of the Snap-On 10x better. the divets are perfect for oily fingers to help drive stuff in a little harder. If I had the money I would get the Snap-On. If I was looking for a screwdriver better than harbor freight I would get Williams.
EXACTLY!! Finally someone who GETS It!!
I recently purchased the Williams and I just had a question. It’s as simple as switching between the 3 modes right? Every time I switch all the way to the left or all the way to the right, the screwdriver only ratchets for a second then locks back up. Do you think mine is defective? Thanks in advance! And thanks for the informative video!
Sounds defective to me...unless your hand is accidentally touching the collar as you use it.
I received that same green Snap-on as a gift from a mechanic buddy 15 years ago and it is top notch. Those little subtle differences 'may' make a difference to the day in and day out professional mechanics. Not sure.
That said, I'm a home DIY guy who would rather purchase the William'ss product and have another $35 to spend on another quality, if not professional grade, tool.
I had the Snap-on Driver and it is like no other. I was thrilled every time I used it. It just feels that good in your hand. Somebody borrowed mine 20 years ago and I never replaced it. It was much cheaper when I got it and it was a 100th-anniversary model from Indy 500. I paid like $35 back when it was new and it was worth every penny. I will be buying the Williams and soon.
I bought the snap on because my father had one and im not sure what happened to it. yes 70.00 is a lot of money for a screwdriver but ill think of him everytime I use it which more then makes up for the price. Fit and finish along with service also come with snap on if you use yours daily 😉 I was a tiny disappointed they opted out for the screw cap driver insert but maybe thinking it was a bit gimiky or never used. I also think they should try to incorporate the interchangeable shaft lengths like the soft handles have. Perfect screwdriver right there
need review of milwaukee mid torque 2861
wiha has a 26 bit holder - made in Germany
I like the feel of the ergonomic grip on the Wera 72 tooth also made in G
Kobalt has that dual ratcheting screwdriver that holds onto all kinds of bits like the Makita gold bits and micro too
and harbor freight now has 1000volt resistance screwdriver for $10
I Wana get a U.S. proto
I swear I got high watching him spray the brake cleaner .
Snap on owns williams. Willams is snap ons industrial brand. The price difference is the finish on the product
bb4jdmlude, it's not just the finishing quality. You are paying for the tool truck service.
I got a Milwaukee at Home Depot cheaper with more accessories ! Thanks for the review always enjoy them !
Frogboyattacks Make your way up to New Jersey and let's discuss it !
So are the Williams screwdrivers made by Snap on? Or at least the hard black handle regular screwdrivers. I just wanted to know if they were made in the same factory with the same materials. And yes I know Snap on owns Williams and several other tool brands. I'm looking at buying some more Williams tools.
nice starrett pointer :P
I am perfectly happy with megapro as far as ratcheting screwdrivers go. They can be found on amazon for fair prices between 20 and 25 bucks
Can we do a wera vs wiha vs snap on ratcheting screwdriver?
yes please becauae the Wera beats em all... Hands down in my opinion amd I own em all
@@adama5392 NO, it doesnt not have the Grip
@@Formulabruce it's grip is way better than the square snap-on's in my opinion. Heck I would take the three sided modern snap-on's before I would take the square ones. I despise the square handles for doing anything but the lightest of work. I figure my experiences might be different from others because the bulk of square handled snap-on's I've used are dzus tools. There's no way you can push in on the fastener, turn, and maintain grip on that stupid handle. I actually switched to a cheaper dzus tool because it had a handle more similar to a Wiha screwdriver and had rubber overmolding so you can actually hold on to it. I prefer the Wera handles probably the best though.
Snap on for me is out of the question....but the Williams and Klein are about the same price.....any opinions ??
Hard to go wrong with Klein ever…..personally I am not a fan of the in-handle bit storage on the Williams.
I own both. I usually go for my snap on just because I have it in a blow mold case with all of the bits I would need. Before I got the case I would go for the williams so that my snap on would stay nice lol
Also interesting that your williams ratchet is different from mine. Mine has a shiny smooth finish, and has the o ring on the cap.
I found an old version of the snap on one with rubber handles in a scrap car at work and its super grimy and doesnt really ratchet well. Think i could get it warrantied?
yes. you should be able to warranty any snapon tool, even if you don't have a receipt.
no the tool truck guy will laugh at you unless you buy stuff from him.
@@djsi38t he did warranty it and its still in my toolbox getting used daily lmao
I'm going with the Williams
Try the Wera it blows both of those screwdrivers out of the water.. About $5 more than the Williams on Ebay.. All metal and better tooth countmm
To me as a mechanic I use the snap on. im sure the quality is the same but I pay extra for convenience. Time is money in the automotive industy, and the right tools make things go quicker. In my eyes I see the extra mark up on snap on, mac or any tool truck tool is paying for the guy to come to you and help you one on one with your needs. I know for a fact that I trust my snap on or mac guys much more than any lowes or home depot employee because they have to maintain a good relationship.
Meh, you're an automotive mechanic. It seems more than aviation or large diesel mechanics, Snap-On puts a large amount energy into automotive mechanics, often filling the classrooms all they can with the word Snap-On. Why? Well, automotive enthusiasts have some of the largest shop ego's around. Frankly, when it comes to performance, I'll walk the same of not faster circles around you with my Husky tools with no difference in tool longevity. As an advantage, I build very effective setups with far more options for situation. To make it better, I get to make a complete replica of my professional set and home. All in total is still half Snap-on for the same overall performance and longevity. Also, there are home Depots everywhere that replace no questions asked, same day replacement even when I travel.
The part people don't get is in 3 yrs if they come out with a better screwdriver I can trade in my Snap-on screwdriver on the newer one and get reimbursed the purchase price towards the trade-in. That won't happen with Williams or Kobalt. I just traded in Snap-on ratchets I bought in 1974 b/c I don't use them anymore b/c I like the fine tooth ratchets and I was credited list price towards the purchase of extended length ratchets. For the DIYer Snap-on prices may not make sense but to the professional mechanic there are a lot more advantages to buying Snap-on that people don't know about. I don't have all Snap-on and have my share of OTC, Pico, AESwave, Knipex, Starrett, Astro, etc but I only buy quality tools that seldom break b/c I can't afford to stop what I am doing b/c a tool failed.broke. I've also traded in Snap-on tool boxes & upgraded to what I have today and the money I was credited was equal to or sometimes more than what I paid for them mainly b/c The other part of the screwdriver handle that makes the Snap-on better is the Snap-on handle has a groove for your thumb to provide more grip when turning and the bigger the handle the more to grip. I take pride & care for my tools. The bottom line: Buy the best tool you can afford no matter what the brand but always know ALL the benefits of buying a certain brand tool over another & make your decision.
Someone who actually GETS it! The Handle has a place for your thumb , which allows a much tighter grip, and more torque to the bit. Knurling makes it fast once its broke free with a quick spin...
only because you spend tons of money already with the snap on guy.
nice review, you pronounce snap on like "snap one" lol.
I have 3 Craftsmen ratcheting screw driver. similar design.
I work at Case/New Holland dealer. What's interesting is we sell New Holland ratcheting screw drivers that are IDENTICAL to the Snap-on. I can guarantee it is made by Snap-on. However it is made in Taiwan!
Many folks say they have identical, but the handles are NOT
I share the same opinion as many of the viewers. It's hard to get excited about any these after using the German options-Wera, Wiha etc. Comparitaly speaking the SO & Williams would be like going back and watching 420p after watching 4k. Thanks for the video Daniel! Oh, and kinda waiting on the IR W5132 review. I can't make up my mind! 😁👍
Witte makes best screwdrivers!
You sure?
I looked at buying the wera but their tool range sizes is so fucking limited, it's appalling.
They are just basic electrician tools and pointless for any hardcore work.
Would have been nice to see the internals.
What size O Ring did you use
I don’t remember, but it was one from that giant o-ring assortment they sell at Harbor Freight.....I bought the red & blue assortments & have just about every size I’ll ever need!
Love Snap On, but for a bit holding screwdriver nothing beats a Wiha.
The reviews on amazon suggested there are a lot of Chinese fakes being sold as genuine... Amazon has a big issue with fake items right now. Tools and popular name brand products in particular.
Nice "lobster plate" on your wall, or as a lot of people used to call them here in Maine, "scorpion plates." I always thought it was funny that the lobster is red, which means its a lobster carcass (they only turn red when they're cooked). They ditched those in 2000 or so and went with the "chickadee plates" which are still standard issue. There's a new version of the lobster plate available as a specialty plate, and it's yet another image of a dead lobster - www.maine.gov/dmr/science-research/species/lobster/lobsterlicenseplate.html
I got the williams delivered for 22.00 from zoro.with a 25 percent discount.Yeah same tool for a fraction of the cost.
what about blue point tools
I wounder how much money they saved by holding off on the O-ring for the Williams.
+Joe Hanson at least $0.03....
I just want to see the meeting where they decided to hold off on the O-ring. "O-ring? They aren't buying Snap On. We can't give them that."
Isn't that basically what I'm doing as Snap On owns Williams?
The quality of these two tools is the same but its Snap On's price gouging that is the point of the humor that I'm getting at. Snap On's choice to cheap out on not including such an inexpensive o-ring on the Williams brand of tool just because Willaims isn't marketed as a premium tool brand is distasteful. Snap On expects and knows people will pay the price because one says Snap-On on it and because they know people like to complete collections and color match. Then there is also the tool truck service, but that really depends on the rep because some reps you literally have to chase down as they drive past your shop.
***** I agree that the Makita is a very good deal for the money and would probably be better for most people. I have the Megapro automotive screwdriver and for me that thing makes more sense because I keep mine in my general purpose mobile tool box in a grab and go hand tool roll. The on-board bit storage makes it super compact and 14 bits takes care of just about any fastener for around the house use and the ratcheting mechanism is absolutely perfect and a world apart from just about anything else in the sub $30 range. The Milwaukee feels like a gravel truck on a dirt road compared to the Megapro. I thought the nearly $40 price tag was steep, but I splurged and now other ratcheting screwdrivers and bit drivers are inferior after having used this for some time now. Lesser priced ratcheting screwdrives would be a compromise to me. And it is made in the USA which still means something to me and is part of the added price.
TL;DR if you want a knurled shaft, buy Snap-On.
It was the grip that sold me, and the knurling just saves huge time
Try to Warrenty the Williams and you will see the difference. Snap on is a swap, Williams is jump through hoops and wait for weeks!
I was hoping that your review (or comparison) would have included the use of both screwdrivers , and that you would noted any differences. This would allow the viewers to make a better informed choice, instead of asking that same audience to submit an opinion on a tool they may or may not have.
The only difference (other than what I pointed out) will be the "feel in your hand" which cannot be explained via video. It is personal preference only. The reason that I ask viewers to comment, is that many of them own one or both & can attest to which they like better. The previous comments on the MegaPro vid is why I made this follow-up showing the differences/similarities between the Snap-on & Williams --- which proves that they are not the "exact same" as many people said that they were.
Williams is a division of Snap-On, looks exactly the same except the grip is slightly different probably exact same internals, if you don't care about the fancy colours the Williams is probably just as good. Bit storage kinda needs improvement.
Dill Wiggle I disagree. I've had screwdrivers with fancier bit storage. I prefer just dumping them in the handle. You can throw more in there than what it comes with, whatever you use most, and it's not difficult to dump them into your hand and change bits. You don't have to set it down or anything. It just doesn't need to be any more complicated.
Dill Wiggle yep, back in the 70's you could buy Williams tools right off the snap on truck.
do to having a o-ring. the snapon will float if dropped in water.
they were purchased by Snap on to gain a good foothold in the industrial market
I just scooped Up a willaims screwdriver and the cap does come with a O ring.
Lucky you....mine got left out it seems.
I'd buy the Williams that's a no brainer and that's what I'm ordering now....And I'm subbing great video...
A no brainer - WILLIAMS! But still, that's a hefty price tag. Snap-On is ridiculous with their pricing! Enough said.
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I'll take the Sears Craftsman tool. It is much cheaper and works as well.
With this day and age and internet options to purchase items I don't see how Snap-on is even still in business with their high prices.
All these new mechanics out of school think they have to have top of the line from the tool trucks and you could really get into a lot of debt if you don't know what you're doing
New mechanics should buy as much as they can while still in school (generally at 50 cents on the dollar), although I believe they have a dollar limit as to how much you can buy on that plan. However, a lot of tools from other manufacturers are acceptable if not just as good as Snap-on, and Snap-on has simply rebranded a lot of them. The internet has opened a lot of people's eyes to this. And more of these new mechanics are opting for tool boxes from other manufacturers, on the theory that the tools actually earn you the money, not the box they're stored in. You're right about the debt thing, and guys shouldn't commit themselves to so much of it at the beginning of their careers. They need to ease into it in case this turns out not to be their ultimate career path. Pawn shops often have a good selection of Snap-on tools from mechanics that couldn't make it in the industry.
The Williams hangs up in the ratchet vs my snap on
Just like Williams' ratchets, made in same factory as snap on and 60% less
I'd like ave to revue this thing
For a mere $71.50 he can buy one like I did!
**review. it looks nice though.
kids video
I have a Husky version of this and it too is identical to both of these especially the Snap-on because it has the knurled area for grip unlike the Williams...51 piece with holder (molded rubber)and holder in handle ... Not loose. But and actual revolver type they clip into(if you'd prefer to use that) unlike both of these... and I think I paid under $20 and it works great! 👀👍™
And... It's nylon too. ..
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What no evaluation of the strength of the actual gear mechanism. Need to test that.
No need,they are identical.
Williams made at least 1 red handle ratcheting screwdriver because I have one .
My Williams came with an o ring