The watch that changed my mind about TAG | Heuer Carrera Calibre 18
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TAG Heuer has had a rough couple of decades with the enthusiast community and seemed to have lost their connection to their racing heritage. However in recent years, we have seen something of a revival of the brand in its embrace of it's past. Today we look at the Heuer Caliber 18 and ponder whether TAG is back in the game.
This channel needs more recognition. One of the few bold enough to review Tag/Heuer
LOL that's hilarious... Fortune favors the bold right? 😂
I'm glad you're a lot more open minded than most other channels... It's a beautiful watch. Thanks for also diversifying the watch content and not looking down so much on some brands. I'm especially fond of your 'make it' video's... Makes my fingers itch
Thank you for the great feedback! Just having fun over here learning about brands with an open mind
Tag Heuer has been doing well the last few years. I bought the GlassBox recently. Great looking piece and the size and movement are great
I have the Autavia Heuer Caliber 02 and I absolutely love it. I love what Tag is doing right now with these modern re-issues. This is a great review and an awesome watch, keep them coming thanks! I also really love the Jack Heuer anniversary Carrera.
The autavia is a beaut! Thanks Chris!
I know it’s a small community of Watches enthusiast aficionados. I’ve been collecting watches since my grandfather show me his watch and told me what it was to have a wash on your wrist. What do you mean while he was growing up and I’m hoping I can pass them to my grandkids in the future. One thing you always do is you’re one of the most honest guys in the community sincere with integrity. I thank you for the information you always brings. Us !! I have my grandfather bulova aqua Tron, from the 60s and he works great
I shied away from this brand because of all the negativity in the forums, some is very petty with double standards. After filtering through it I purchased a modern Carrera reissue they released back in the early 2000’s and found it to be a great looking and wearing watch. At 39mm, like the one you reviewed, it wears great on a 7” and smaller wrist. The case of the Carrera is classic in design and as comfortable as an oyster case. This year I purchased the 160th and am very happy with it. The dial is spectacular and it loves whatever strap you throw at it. Thank you for sharing this with the community.
Glad you took a shot and made up your own mind instead of following the crowd👍. Some Great heritage pieces in there
Great choice 👍👍👍
Love the Calibre 18. It’s unfashionable to say but I like Tag Heuer. I’ve always fancied a classic carrera but not brave enough for vintage so when they announced that 160th edition I snapped one up. It’s good.
Nice! I've been lusting after a vintage 2447 NST forever now. The price keeps going to the moon
The only channel where I laugh and learn something from one video. Love it!
Haha, appreciate that Chris😉
I love the brand! I think they make really nice watches and carry lots of brand recognitions
Learned a lot from this, thank you for the great content! As a kid, the first watch I truly loved was an F1 Tag - black and yellow if my memory is correct. It would be great if they can find their feet again - back to their motorsport roots.
One watch that I know a lot of people do not talk about is the omega Seamaster,chronometer , 120+ a great watch but there is few and far information on TH-cam of people talking about it. It’s a Hidden gem🗣️🗣️
Love the music in your videos! 🔥
Thank you! Choosing the music is one of my favorite parts of the editing process!
Incredible looking watch! Another great video man!
Thanks Miguel 🙏. Be well
Hey dude just came across your channel. I'm liking it. 👍
Appreciate that Sam, nice to have ya here 👍
I really like you taste. I've owned many watches and Heuer is real deal, especially ones like THIS!
Autavia Jackheuer 85th birthday edition owner. Prefer it to my Rolexes. Heuer is back, you can't argue that with their latest releases. Awesome video.
Ooo, that's a pretty watch, rock on brotha!
I recently purchased the Jack Heuer 85th Birthday Autavia after 3 years of hunting a mint example down for the right price. I’m wearing it more than my Rolex, Omega & Tudor! It’s such a beautiful watch and feels and looks extremely well made. Tag IS definitely back! Mr B, do you still have yours? How do you feel about it now?
Had this piece for a while....thoroughly enjoyed it and now am looking at picking up an actual vintage Heuer....my only gripe with this watch was it was a bit too polished....would have preferred maybe a brushed case or a hybrid between the two....that being said I received tons of compliments and had a lot of fun wearing it. Thanks for bringing me back to the Calibre 18!
Glad this was your gateway Heuer 😉. Those vintage heuers are sexy, good luck with your search!
Great review!
I own the Heuer 81. It is never boring! I will never sell it. So also this one, the carrera 18, has a lot of similarities with the one I own. Great watch this one!!!
thanks for the review...i have this exact watch and the dial in the sun is just amazing ....i also have the ltd Fragment model limited to 500pcs...now i'm thinking should i get the 160th anniversary piece...
Yeah the dial is wonderful. I am hoping they redo a three register panda 🐼
@@WatchCrunchOfficial at this point I don’t see that happening
Nice review of this Carrera, I've always been a Tag fan...there are for sure some value in some. While others are just a name use. JCB brought the brand back into what their original ethos...I hope they can go onto bringing all the way back. This chrono is a very nice rendition, but 19mm lug width, they need to use more common sense while in this transitional stage. Thanks for the share and work you put into your content!
Yeah the 19mm is a bit frustrating! I wonder if they were just trying to keep the same lug geometry true to vintage
I think they are on the way back and the cooperation with Porsche is the next step on the way.
Back to the roots of their identity - Racing!
Tag Heuer Carrera / Porsche Carrera.
I love it.
Yes, very nice coincidence there 👍
A big fan here, your videos are top and your taste is similar than mine.love this Heuer
Thank you Aritz! You are awesome
Hi thanks for making such a beautiful watch review. I have a question about this watch. My confusion is that is this Heuer or Tag Heuer? If this is a recent watch, shouldn't the logo be "Tag Heuer"?
Thanks! So I think they are struggling a bit with branding. It is a TAG Heuer but a lot of people don't like TAGs influence on the company and feel that heuer is the original brand with history.
This is a BEAUTIFUL watch, I remember seeing this watch on google in 2018. There were just a few articles about this watch at that time. I bought it right away because of its look. It looks smaller on wrist. To me, it would be even better if it is 36mm / 34mm and thinner.
Vintage sizing would be great!
Great review. I've lusted over this watch for years. Yes, more Heuer, less TAG. BTW, for reference, what is your wrist size?
I have two Tag’s I love them.
Beautiful watch, just been looking at the second hand market for one. Like others have said, not all Tag watches are good looking, but some are outstanding, they also allow some of us less wealthy minions to purchase a premium watch.
Maybe there is some snobbery involved because of that and that’s why people have been giving tag a bad rep.
The look of this one though does it. Perfect dress chrono
I wish I could combine the features of this watch that I like with my Tag Heuer Carerra 160th.
I’m currently venturing into the world of Tag. Have the Formula one. What’s your thoughts on the Aquaracer?
The design is not offensive but it seems kind of a ploy to sell divers and lacks historical underpinnings which is important to some.
Is it a column wheel actuated chronograph?
I don't think it is
I'm newer to the watch world, and do not understand the hate for TH. There are some questionable designs, but most companies have some of those. The Carreras you mentioned are my favorites of anything TH makes.
I agree Joel, I think if they can clean up their line up, they can have a bright future drawing on their rich history.
Gr8 video
Thanks Bobby!
Good review of this Telemeter which I own until recently. It's a nice piece but I prefer my new 160the Anniversary silver dial of 2020 so much more. The Telemeter 18 is again nice but the 2492 plus module is pretty decent but the H02 I prefer.
Yes, that one is a fav of mine as well. I'm just waiting for them to do a reverse panda 🐼
@@WatchCrunchOfficial oh boy a reverse panda will be nice, I also have the Montreal limited to 10000 pieces a bit sporty and playful for when I'm at the Pub or pool hall chilling on weekends.
Tag heuer : You pay a lot for the logo but it's easy and cheaper to service from your independent watchmaker for the ETA model. The watch that I'm interested is their chronograph in Reissues Collection and for their other model, I buy it in Chrono24 because it's cheaper.
Yeah I bet the service on the new in house ones cost a pretty penny.
The Calibre 18 was almost perfect, but they should have lost the date complication, made it a little thinner, and used an integrated chronograph movement like a Valjoux 7750 instead of that lame Dubois-Depraz chrono module. Tack on Chrono modules like the DD really suck, they have poor feel on the chrono pushers, make the combined movement disproportionately thicker, and are notoriously hard to service. But visually this watch was a winner, the two register panda style is very distinctive and more attractive than their newer vintage inspired pieces
Agree with most of your points. The date is a bit awkward and lonely at 6. What I can't figure out is how the speedy reduced is so thin with a similar movement setup.
how much discount you get on this watch?
I borrowed it
Don't sleep on the 1887 Carrera's in 41mm. Kind of thick, but wears more comfortably than the full sized Black Bays. The Tag Heuer strap/deployant clasp combos are the best designed in the business IMO (unlimited, tool-free adjustments). Tag Heuer as a whole is underrated, especially since the Instagram hive-mind made its choice to focus on just a few brands.
Interesting, it's got a big watch face. Probably would overwhelm my dainty wrist. Hate how instagram is slowly warping our preferences.
@@WatchCrunchOfficial There's a lot of dial on that one. My wrist is about 6.25in, but it wears much better than you'd think because of the perfect fit of the thick strap.
Forgot to say, big fan of the channel! Really like the fresh angle you take in your videos. Keep it up!
Max is one of the best writers of all the watch commentators/reviewers - as succinct in his language as that other Max - Bills.
Thanks dude 🙏
Nice watch, why they are not producing it anymore? That’t a shame...
I know... But now they have more coming out with in house movements! Excited to see another reverse panda in the future 🐼
@@WatchCrunchOfficial I really hope so too. This watch is amazing. Tag Heuer just nailed it!
I am looking for a nice Panda watch and this is a nice peace. But I already have the Tag Heuer Carrera Calibre 16 and with a lug to lug of 50mm it is a bit bigger than I would like for my 6,25” wrist. Another nice time peace, much cheaper by the way, is the Hamilton 38416711.
Yeah and I really hope they do a reissue of the tri register panda!
Would I love to see Heuer back? Heck yes I would. First drop TAG, however, that may not be enough. With the naming of 25 y/o Frédéric Arnault as CEO in 2020, with all his years in the watch industry 🙄I think the gains made by Biver will be short lived. It is a shame.
What a watch!!!!👍🔝🔝🔝
Thanks for stopping by Leandro😎
Why the hell did they discontinue this one? 😤
It's a shame ☹️
1966 Heuer 3646 on wrist here - not TAG Heuer. Icon, same level as Daytona. Also old 35 mm 1960s Heuer Carrera column wheel in the safe at the bank.
I LOVE the design of this watch. I would wear this over something like a Speedmaster any day of the week. But an ETA/Sellita base with piggyback chronograph module. Nothing against ETA/Sellita or even the Dubois Depraz module but it did keep me from buying this watch. It just does not feel like good value.
Rest in the good news 💐🌑👍 Okay bye
I think that the heritage Heuer 02 based models make the Calibre 18 obsolete. Modular chronograph movements had their time in 1990. 2020sv require a different beast.
Yeah, seems integrated is the way everyone is going...
Tag never left...people just crucify them for making entry level, quartz watches and some poor marketing decisions.
Figure of speech. Seems they were abandoned by the community by reasons including what you said, but are trying to get in our good graces again 👍
Regrettably, Tag is not “back,” even if they very occasionally issue some nice pieces under the historic Heuer name. Tag will continue to issue mostly garbage watches, especially chronographs. This is because LVMH, the parent company that owns Tag, also owns Zenith. LVMH doesn’t want Tag to cannibalize sales of the Zenith El Primero line. Tag has a ton of watch lines, including divers and even smart watches, but Zenith absolutely depends on the El Primero for its survival. Pieces like the Heuer Calibre 18, and the more recent 160th Anniversary editions, are clear alternatives to the El Primero, and that’s why LVMH will only release pieces like those as limited editions.
you realize there is a bunch of people saying the same thing about Zenith in regards to Hublot...
@@martinblanklikeswatches Yes but those arguments are overblown. Other than the Hublot Classic Fusion and the Zenith Defy, the two company’s product lines aren’t all that similar, and they appeal to radically different customer demographics. It’s not like Heuer and Zenith whose historical product lines were almost entirely competitive with each other. But it shouldn’t surprise anyone that brands under a single parent are going to have distinct product lines and different price points, to avoid inner brand competition. That’s why Swatch Group moved Longines downmarket, so it wouldn’t compete with Omega, even though (before their acquisition) Longines was considered the higher end brand.
@@TruckeeDoggo I'm not denying the existance of positioning, im questioning why it matters? There is room for great watches and technical achievement at 5K,10K,15K...
@@martinblanklikeswatches It matters because it answers the question the video and everyone else has asked: why Tag Heuer, who has such a massive catalog of great historical Heuer references, only drips out Heuer pieces infrequently as limited editions? The positioning within LVMH and Zenith is really the only feasible explanation for Tag not issuing new pieces that exploit Heuer's rich historical catalog of chronographs.
I really enjoyed this, wonderful imagery and the TAG looks great but the watch itself doesn't really inspire me to desire one. This is TAG Heuer not Heuer and they should be making TAG Heuer watches, when they remove the TAG from the dial almost in shame I get concerned about their own confidence in the brand, great watches so just brand them TAG Heuer and go with it.
Very interesting perspective Morgan. I think of the converse which is. Why don't they split them into 2 sub-brands with heuer making vintage respectful watches whereas TAG can fully embrace the connected smart watches 🤷♂️
@@WatchCrunchOfficial I like your thinking with the Connected watches. Hope all going well mate, can't wait to see what's coming up in the channel.
I prefer the Hamilton Intra matic.
Another good one, also on the thick side.
@@WatchCrunchOfficial Exactly, but when you consider the movement and the price, that one will be a better option.
I will never forgive them for claiming their movement was in house when it was, in fact, a Seiko movement. No brand that does that is trustworthy and I don't want to wear a watch that screams "fake" to me. It just showed that they did not care about truth in advertising, they did not care about the quality, heritage and build of their watch, they jus thought their customers were dumbasses who would buy anything with the Tag name on it. Maybe they were right, but they lost my business. Integrity is everything.
Good point, trust is earned with years and lost in second
Curious about why Tudor gets away with their Kenissi made "in-house" movements but Tag gets dogged for it? So many new "in-house" movements are just modified ETA/Valjoux designs, similar to what Tag did with Seiko. Nomos' famous "in-house" movement was a modified Peseux design, too.
FYI, I own Tudor, Tag Heuer, Rolex, GS, and a whole bunch of vintage Seikos, so am not brand loyal or anything. Just confused at what watch enthusiasts choose to get mad over.
@@davidt2129 I think it was because they advertised their in-house movement as something special and thus worth the expense of the TAG. Now, I'm sure that the movement was top notch, but they should not have bragged about a swiss made movement when it clearly was not. I'm not much of a "movement" guy and in-house vs ETA is all the same to me. I'm sure they are good quality, but in this case, they made a big deal about their movement. It wasn't a "mistake" it was a deliberate decision to lie about their product, no different to me buying Kellogg's Cornflakes and finding Post Cornflakes in the box. Both are quality names, but it was not what was advertised. I don't want to wear something on my wrist from a company that does that. There are too many other excellent brands that play by the rules.
@@davidt2129 Tudor gets such a pass...some brands are just forum darlings and others are not.
@@davidt2129 Because Tudor is partly owner of Kenissi (Chanel is also partly owner). And one of the directors of Kenissi Holding SA being Eric Yvon Pirson, is also chief of Tudor. And Tudor and Kenissi are building a new facility in Le Locle Switzerland. Half the building will be for Kenissi, and the other half for Tudor. So basically Tudor named their new movement department Kenissi and created a separate company structure for it.
Tag took a Seiko movement (they have nothing to do with Seiko) and put it in one of their watches. Then they claimed that the movement was in-house and used it as a selling point. I agree with @Happy Wanderer integrity is important!
Find it laughable when modern reissue/recreations need to be bigger and thicker than the same watch from 40 years ago. Why is this happening lol.
Unfortunately, TAG H. has never appealed to me and I've been in the hobby since the the 1980's!
Even in my old circles, no one owned any and I can't remember anyone even mentioning the name!
I don't think it's bad, just low interest!
I think they drifted away from making watches for the enthusiast community. But seems they are making more of an effort these days.
Sexy, but avoid those modular chronographs like the plague. Trust me, they are evil.
Too thick for me
A lot of it is that crystal
How about NO TAG, all Heuer ??
And cut out the unnecessary bling ffs !