A Diver Watch Double Review Special - Tudor Heritage Black Bay Red & Orient Ray Raven II Black PVD
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- Today we review the two latest acquisitions to my personal watch collection. The Tudor Heritage Black Bay in red and the Orient Ray Raven II in black PVD!
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This is the greatest intro ever. The cutting matches the music, the camera angles, the time lapse, the atmosphere ... Pure class!
Thank you sir, very flattered.
Best regards,
TGV
I definitely think that a $2000 watch such as the Tudor is a luxury timepiece ⌚.
Sure if you have it. If not these make you feel good I rather buy $100-300 watches and have a bunch. In this price range there is a cornucopia of great watches. I’m a pocket knife collector an I rather have a bunch to pick from on any given day. I’m down to 60 knives and 18 watches at the moment These are both hobbies that I’m very involved with. These are both very sharp and amazing knives
The snap transitions never get old. Love it!
I finally translated the Latin in your intro, and I really like it.
Be what you seem to be. Is what I came up with. That is a great saying and words to live by.
Thank you Roy, that is exactly why I use it,
BTW, I got your email, have forward it to the admins of the group, they should sort it for you.
Thanks again,
Best regards,
TGV
I really appreciate the depth you go into in your reviews and your obvious passion. I'm currently waiting on delivery of the Ray Raven II and I'm very close to pulling the trigger on a Goldeneye and yes I want them both on black mesh.
I think a duel between the Orient and the SKX would be so good, two of the best entry level divers pinned against each other? Awesome. Another two great reviews TGV, always loving the videos
Thank you Ben, I will try and make that happen, Best regards, TGV
I cannot get over how much I love the Orient Raven II. It is my favorite beater (always on a Bond NATO).
Very glad to hear Garry, keep enjoying it.
Thank you,
Best regards,
TGV
AH AH I love the way you say "Dai andiamo dai.." big up from Italy.
Great intro. That's from the prelude to my favourite scene in HEAT. When Pacino sits down with Deniro at that highway diner... Probably one of the best dialogues ever.
Indeed, well spotted. Just re-watched it this past weekend with the wife, such a classic!!
Thank you, Best regards, TGV
Amazing and honest review. I have this exact Tudor and absolutely love it. I know people say it's not a Rolex and they are right. If I wanted another Rolex I would have bought another one. This watch, to me, has more personality and charm than most of my watches. I love the review and love this Tudor. Thank you for taking the time to do it.
Hi TGV. I just purchased the 2016 version in the same color and it is a thing of beauty. I was drawn to this watch as soon as I saw it. I love all James Bond movies, and something about this Tudor that makes a tool watch elegant and luxurious. Kinda like Bond in that regard. I also have the old Orient Ray Raven 1 on a black nato and it gives it a stealthy look! Love both watches to bits.
Great review as always, thanks for all you do! Cheers!
I have the Tudor BB Blue. I almost bought it new for $3K but luckily found it used in perfect condition for 2/3 the price. This piece and the Speedmaster Reduced are the two best time keeping watches in my collection. The BBB keeps +1 sec per week. I couldn't ask for better accuracy. It wears a little large on my wrist but i like the understated quality and style of the watch. The crown is a little large but I have it on the Tudor weathered chocolate brown strap. A very classy combination indeed. I'm glad I bought it and really enjoy wearing it.
Thank you Arthur, so glad to hear, I really miss my Speedy reduced. Your collection sounds great, you certainly have good taste. Enjoy.
Best regards,
TGV
but I sure like the gold lettering on the chocolaty brown dial of your red BB. Makes me wonder if the BB Blue was the correct choice? ;)
fabulous! Seeing the Tudor up close it really is stunning :)
Thank you Gary :D Best regards, TGV
Thank you TGV for another outstanding review/reviews. The Orient Ray Raven II is very impressive, and at that price, it is also very tempting. As for the Black Bay, I own one in blue and I must say, I agree with you 100% about the positioning of the spring bars. When the watch is on a leather or textile strap, the sides look very much like a metal tube to me, and I, like yourself, love to change straps often. That said, I lover everything else about this piece. It is one of my favorites and it sees a lot of wrist time.
Thanks again and keep up the good work… Cheers!
Many thanks for the Tudor Black Bay review. I have been waiting for that one. How could I resist the vintage sub features at that price.
Very well done! I think the Bond NATO with the red pinstripe would look awesome on the Black Bay. The Raven 2 is my next watch.
Great review of the Tudor. (Made me miss the BBB even more)
I hope to get to enjoy yours as much as I did mine.
Excellent video as usual TGV! Love them both, specially that Tudor! Wouldn't mind adding the blue one to my collection in the near future! Keep the good work! Cheers!!!
Thank you my friend, you really cant go wrong with one. Happy hunting.
Best regards,
TGV
I've had mine for a couple of months now, and I bought it after almost two years of longing, saving and changing my mind. I don't regret my purchase one bit, it's absolutely awesome. On leather it works for a dressy casual outfit, on my rubber strap with deployment clasp it's a wonderful toolwatch for the beach or a friendly game of tennis and on the steel bracelet it just works for almost everything! In hindsight it seems that the ETA-version with the curved "self winding" print will be more sought after than the in house-version. It does make it more service friendly and you are guaranteed cheap replacement parts for generations if something would go wrong, which for me is more important than the prestige in an inhouse movement.
I'm certainly biased when it comes to this watch now, but I had been thinking about a Rolex before I bought this and as sad as it is I partly chose the Tudor because of Rolex's problem with replicas. I wouldn't stand people looking at my watch thinking I probably got it for 200$ in Thailand. Also a Tudor doesn't mean squat to a non interested person, but an enthusiast immediately recognize a fellow in the Tudor while a person with a Rolex doesn't necessarily have a clue about watches and just look at you funny when you compliment it.
Another great video. Loved that black mesh bracelet on Orient Ray Raven. Great link to history of Tudor divers. Your Tudor is beautiful time piece. Thanks for another great video and big LIKE from me.
Just got a RR2 yesterday. Fantastic looking piece, runs quietly and is a perfect size for my 6 and 3/4 inch wrist. The bracelet is easy to size and very comfortable (although it does occasionally catch my arm hair 😱). The bezel action is firm and accurate with zero back-play. And the lume looks just about radioactive! Couldn’t be more satisfied at the moment.
i got my self one 2 months ago
. its absolute pure class .
its high end luxury watch for sure . and the dial OMG .
Nice one! Enjoy it. Thank you, Best regards, TGV
Apologies for the necropost, but just wanted to share that I just purchased a Ray Raven II and that I absolutely love the Moby - New Dawn Fades intro! Huge fan of Joy Division since high-school. Cheers and thanks for all you do.
Regards,
JMM
I would still consider the Tudor Black Bay a luxury watch whereas the Pelagos is undoubtedly in that category. Thanks for the video, TGV!
Nearly at the 50k mark my friend!
I remember getting into watches when you were just past 10k haha keep them coming TGV!
Thank you my friend, really happy to know you are still watching, makes my day. Onwards and upwards! Best regards, TGV
Great review TGV, I really enjoy your channel. I also have the burgundy Black Bay and love it. Your video really captures the rich burgundy color. In a lot of pictures it looks red, but don't let that scare you off...it is really a deep rich color that is really classic looking. I don't think you mentioned it, but the BB (the Pelagos as well), has a cool bezel feature that stops the rotation at 12:00, so even if you are rotating your bezel at in the dark, you can land the triangle at 12:00 pretty easily.
Yet another great review you were saying about not making the SKX anymore I bought an SKX013 3 weeks ago it was made April 2018 it's a fabulous watch gaining 1 second every 2 days worn day and night.
No questions, the Gov'nor has spoken in a detailed comprehensive review of the Tudor Black Bay. Your analysis of BB is outstanding, how I wish you did a single review on Tudor only.
Thank you CKR, very kind ;-)
Best regards,
TGV
Damn this video, it got me to impulse buy the Orient. Really great looking piece, can't wait to get my hands on it. Love the channel! been having a great time with your videos as I've just developed a watch obsession. Cheers!
For anyone wondering, that green Zulu is almost identical to the NATO straps Zulu Diver make, the Nylon looks identical and so are the loops.
Another great vid Sir... I will definitely work hard to get that Tudor someday... One of my Dream Grail watch. Cheers!
Do it! A worthy grail my friend.
Thank you.
Best regards,
TGV
The 7922R is a stunning looking watch. The vintage styling is tastefully done & the finishing is impeccable just as you'd expect from Tudor/Rolex .
Love the Black Bay but I've had my eye on the Pelagos for awhile. Really tugs at my heart strings for some reason. Great review of both watches:)
Congrats TGV for 450 videos!!!
:D Thank you. Best regards, TGV
Hi TGV, I was so closed to pull the trigger on the Orient an hour ago. But I have to hold me back because I bought a Vintage Atlantic Worldmaster yesterday... ;) I've got mixed feelings about the Tudor. I'm not sure what it is. But I like the vintage style of the dial. And the Tudor must look perfect on the original Bond Nato strap.
Best regards,
Claus
Could you look at some great entry level Automatic Chronograph watches next? Great vid btw!!
Thank you for the tudor review TGV! Ive decided to take the path towards a black bay black. Prepare for the onslaught of pictures on the Facebook group! haha
LOL Nice one.
Thank you.
Best regards,
TGV
I picked up a Tudor Black Bay a few months ago. I've really started bonded with it. Currently I'm on a trip with the TBB on the Tudor nato.
Cheers.
Nice one Zeddy! Enjoy it my friend, thank you. Best regards, TGV
It's always a learning experience watching The Urban Gentry. I must take a closer look at Tudor. I am also taken with Orient watches. I love Japanese watch brands.
Thank you, very glad to hear :D
Best regards,
TGV
Thank you for the Ray Raven review. Good job!!!
Thank you Faizal, Best regards, TGV
Great review of both. I got my Black Bay yesterday! I have only worn it for a day and I do love it. I WAS apart of the big watch craze, I wouldn't look at a watch that was less then 47mm..... I do own a Breathing 48mm Navitimer and love it to death, but thanks to you TGV I have opened my eys to smaller, classier watches. I do have big 7.5 inch wrists so I thought the Black bay might be a bit small, but after getting use to wearing a smaller lighter watch I'm hooked. I'm proud to wear the black bay, almost more then the 48mm Navi. Cheers!
Thank you so much Brian, congrats on the BB.
Gotta love a Navi too ;-) Enjoy them, both amazing!
Best regards,
TGV
wow! a surprisingly upbeat intro! love it! hahaha great review tgv, love the tudor. Seriously considering it for my grail watch..... hmmm........
Thank you Paolo :D A worthy grail indeed!
Best regards,
TGV
Great review as we have come to expect ;) nice job TGV. I have had the BBB for about a year now and find myself appreciating and growing closer to the piece as time goes on. Interesting as for the first few months I was on the fence, to flip the piece or not, but now I truly can't see myself parting with this unique and heritage piece, pre inhouse.. is it the rose!!?? :) Cheers!
I agree, the Orient Ray Raven II is outstandingly priced for that all in-house watch. It's on my wishlist, but there are many more on it, especially the new Seiko SRP775J1 Turtle. Hope you'll review the Turtle re-issue soon!
That Tudor looks great on your wrist. It's a very beautiful watch. Thanks for the great review. Take care.
Thank you Jack! You are very welcome, Best regards, TGV
loved the into a lot. great reviews, a lil lengthy, but always enjoyable stuff!
Thank you, the full cut was over an hour LOL. I try to cut them as least as possible ;-) Best regards, TGV
I got excited for a second because I thought I would be able to say, "you forgot to say the caliper is covered with tape!", even thought we all already knew. Great video!
LOL Thank you Joe, Best regards, TGV
Hey TGV,
Amazing reviews as always! Got the BB Blue myself and love it. Looking to expand the collection with a Speedy Pro, quick question do you feel that the Speedy is larger/smaller than the BB? I've read it is less chunky.
Regards
Sebastian
I'm 21 years old and i think for my age group there are few better watches on the market for a young kid looking to get into the watch world. I've had my black bay for a little over a year now and it runs just as good as it did out of the box (as it should) sure it's eta but it's the best of the best plus slightly modified. That may not be good enough for the older watch lovers with more money but for me you can't get much better. Hopefully when I get older I'll be able to take that next step.
Thank you Ashton for the great comment, keep enjoying your BB!
Good luck for the future, I had a Seiko at your age so you are doing well already ;-)
Best regards,
TGV
Yes I think this is the ideal watch for that age. I am turning 21 soon and I am looking to purchase one for my birthday
Great review as always my friend. I love the BBR. The Black Bay Black is on my list. Don't forget about the spring loaded ceramic ball bearings on the bracelet. They give it a very secure fit. Cheers!
Thank you David!
Best regards,
TGV
still waiting for the skx vs orient ray ii
In 15:38 what a beautiful alignment of the hands...
Loved the intro music. Heat soundtrack by chance? The Tudor is stunning, but there's something special about the Ray. The pvd looks great. Best-David
Very nice review as always! Good objective point of view!
I LOVED THE INTRO !
I can't explain exactly but Ive absolutely fallen in love with this piece, as a Bond lover and someone who is borderline obsessed with "older" looking things I think this should be my first luxury timepiece. Though I can't decide to go for the new in-house or ETA.
I went with the ETA since the case is slimmer, and it will be easier/cheaper to service down the road. Additionally, the is less test on the dial with the ETA, and you get the Tudor Rose at 12 o'clock
Man I love these older urban gentry videos
I find the camera never does this watch justice. I also think it looks like a very expensive piece in unnatural light but then a proper tool watch in natural light. A perfect blend. I love this watch but can't find the right leather strap for it! Currently have it on the fabric strap it came with which suits it perfect. Keep up the good videos TGV!
Both watches are superb!! I have the mako II and I love it. It is a good competitor to the SKX for sure! I might be getting a Tudor now!!
Thank you sir! Best regards, TGV
You reviewed two great watches. Loved the video. I really have to agree with you on the mesh bracelets. They fit any shape of wrist and look nice. I have been replacing all the bracelets and bands of my watches with mesh. In fact, just before turning on your video I ordered a mesh for my vintage Tissot Seastar.
Thank you Harold, gotta love the mesh, enjoy it ;-)
Best regards,
TGV
Thanks for the great content as always. I've got large wrist, I wish for orient to come out with a slightly larger version. Maybe the way they've done the mako xl in the past. Orient has a way of making an almost perfect watch, with one deal breaker for me. I'm on the prowl for one and sooner or later they are bound to strike my fancy.
Great video, TGV! I have a blue Mako from this generation, so same watch, and I adore it. Cannot recommend it enough, I also really like the bracelet, it's not that bad after all. Keeps great time and looks gorgeous.
Absolutely love that Orient, I haven't bought the PVD one just because I was afraid that a black watch could be boring, but now I'm re evaluating it!
By the way, just for your information, Orient released the new Bambino, it's called Bambino V4, and it has some nice upgrades such as the movement and the look. Maybe you should check it out when you can.
Love the Black Bay aswell!
Thank you very much for the review.
Best regards,
Michele.
Hi TGV great video loved the Tudor bit will always be out of my range how about affordable alternatives that give the bezel colour pop that these do just love the colour
Could not resist :D gonna get mine (Ray Raven 2)tomorrow 175$ brand new.
I have the Black Bay in red, as shown here. Its a great watch and I would say that if you are on the fence about it then you should make sure you try it on yourself, in the metal. I didn't like it in any of the pictures, but when I went to the AD I saw it, tried it on, and it quickly grew on me. I have small wrists, and it wears very well. Also, regarding the ETA vs. in house, I am quite happy having an ETA version. The ETA equates to a thinner case, it's probably cheaper and easier to service, and it is plenty good enough for my own needs. Also, for what it's worth, it feels plenty luxurious to me!
Hey TGV, you should check out the Orient Adventurer. It looks like a great piece as it's got world time and power reserve complications and still looks very clean... even dressy. You mentioned that you were thinking about the Orient Voyager but this one seems even better.
This Tudor is without a doubt the best looking watch you have ever reviewed. You also bought the best one possible. The Tudor Rose and the floating 'Self Winding' text is not available on the newer models. You picked up a winner. It looks excellent on the leather strap as well.
So glad to hear! Thank you, best regards, TGV
Hi there TGV, I would love to see you do a head to head battle with the new Black Ray II vs the Seiko SKX007. Last time you did it the it ended in a tie, do you think with the new upgraded movement of the Black Ray II would push it over the edge? Thank you very much!
Thank you Avery, I think Federico will be doing that one as I have lent him my Black Ray II, but if he doesn't do it, I certainly will.
Best regards,
TGV
Nice review as usual, great watch, ordered the bronze version which is available in September.
Up & onwards my friend. Best regards.
Nice one Gino, sure you will love it. Thank you, Best regards, TGV
Will you do a review on the Atlantic watches? They're great watches I own one looking to get another
spectacular intro! Fantastic video. Both these watches are unique and very cool. if I was going black bay I would go black bay black. love it! I think a ceramic bezel would ruin it, too modern.
Thank you Brian, so nearly went for the balk too, but then I saw this killer deal on the red and just had to jump on it. Wasn't expecting to get it to be honest.
Best regards,
TGV
Watched your review of the OG, you made a point of how decent the bracelet is... I'd agree, solid links and reliable, if mundane clasp. Only real negative is the hollow end links, so surprised by your distain a year later.
In regards to the Orient, I'm wondering if the sharing of technology with Seiko has started? If you look at the hour hand's shape, it looks similar to the SKX007/9. Also, the movement works remarkably similar to the 4R36 or the NH35. The looks like the vibrations are 21,600. Has anyone opened the case to see the similarities?
great video! Does anyone know where i can get the strap from the Glycine that is now on the orient?
Love my Orient Mako II USA, can't be more happy.
hey tgv I found this seiko called the srp560k1 and I was curious as to your opinion on it. it's similar to the rolex rose gold and rubber yachtmaster
Man the Prient and this black mesh, what a marriage made in heaven!!
Thank you Joao, just had to do it! ;-) Thank you, Best regards, TGV
Cool intro. I felt like the old music was a classier though. Thanks for the vid:)
This music was just for this intro, I change my intros up weekly. Thank you, Best regards, TGV
TVG smashed it on the into again!! Can’t make mind up! Pelagos or Black Bay blue!!!. Or wait for Baselworld 2019
I just rewatched this review and whilst outstanding as usual, I couldn't help but think (therefor subjective ) that placing a 'cheap' natostrap on such a high end watch isn't really upping the wow-factor. Even a classy leather strap or that factory woven strap would do it far more justice. Personally, I'd keep it on the factory ss-bracelet, because the endlinks complete the casedesign.
Couldn't agree more - it looks pathetic on a Nato. The height of the watch certainly doesn't need another two layers of canvas under it just adding to its height. In addition the spring bar location is right at the base of the case so a Nato leaves this huge ugly gaping hole above it where the bracelet would normally flush up to the case and that is the one bit of the watch you DONT want to see as it gets marked from the metal on metal of the bracelet marriage to the case. Its a funky informal casual watch in the red version, so on the bracelet it kinda becomes a little too formal for me. My bracelet has stayed in the box and I rotate it among various distressed leathers personally. No one seems to mention the Tudor bezel click as it hits 12 o'clock. you can set the bezel to 12 in the dark as it "clicks" into place and wont go past 12 till you release and move it again. An incredibly cool feature that everyone seems to miss, TGV included.
It’s tgv he puts natos on everything
I agree. I think the quality of the NATO really dings it for me. This is a grail watch for me, and if I decide to get one, I think I would put it on either a Tudor NATO or something a little better like a Blu Shark, Barton, or Combat Strap. Leather would also be amazing. A nice, distressed leather strap would be great on this.
Agreed, the SS bracelet does it for me. I just ordered an extra link to make the bracelet work for my wrist. Bought it off Watch Center in Georgia and they were fantastic folks to deal with. My Tudor Blackbay Red looks good on a chunkier black Alligater hornback strap until the bracelet gets sized right. Great videos as always when sizing up the purchase against other viable options.
Interesting you say that. I discovered a long time ago a good strap can make a watch better. My thought here is if these cheap straps do so well, imagine how good a good strap can do!
HI TGV . I bought my BB last year . The honeymoon is still going on ! For me it 's a versatile watch : i can wear it with a nato for fun as a tool watch ,and with a leather strap with a suit as a luxury watch . (waiting to see the new one in 36 mm )
Thank you Philippe, very good point and I think it works perfectly in all situations. Enjoy it my friend.
Best regards,
TGV
I was so close to buying this Tudor Black Bay. I love the gilt dial. The Black Bay Blue and Black Bay Black are just to close to a sub for me. For any Tudor aficionados who really do their homework this Black Bay along with the blue titanium Pelagos would be perfectly matched acquisitions
Stunning video TGV as always.
Does the facebook group still exist? I can't find it.
Thank you so much. Best regards, TGV
yes. Orient's is very precise in time keeping. I have a m force and it keeps time better than my Rolex.
nice video, love your vids keep up the good work !
Thank you Archie! Best regards, TGV
I also have the Heritage Black Bay and say it's a little less tooly because the no holes case and massive polished surfaces really can attract scratches. If it were brushed I think it's a different story.
Excellent point, would LOVE a holes case, would make it feel more vintage too. Thank you my friend. Best regards, TGV
Great video. Love the intro!
Thank you Zubair, Best regards, TGV
Where can I buy the black mesh bracelet for the orient watch? And what size is it?
TGV, you did a very nice intro, it feels so fresh.
I love the color on the Tudor watch. I wish I could find a similar colored timepiece in the $100 to $200 dollar range.
Thank you so much!
Very good point, let me have a look and do a video on affordable alternative too.
Best regards,
TGV
That would be marvelous. Thank you very much!
Hey TGV,
Thanks for all the amazing videos!! I absolutely adore your in depth reviews.
You've encouraged me to buy a ray black raven Orient which i had just ordered moments ago. You have a beautiful black bracelet put on it, do you mind if I ask what is the name of and where can i find it?
Thank You!
Thank you so much my friend, too kind. As for the bracelet, it was featured in a recent video on bracelets, full links to buy are there ;-) Best regards, TGV
Great reviews. The Orient looks terrific and also seems like a great buy. Your review of the Tudor was very balanced. Not a perfect watch like I anticipated. Still, the things it gets right make the watch very attractive. I wonder how its finishing and texture compare to a similarly priced Seiko diver. I also like the potential of a comparison to the Omega but why not a three way contest? Once again, great job!
Great in depth video. Will you do a quick comparison video with the Submariner? I am looking forward to seeing the new Black Bay later this year when it is available with new movement and bracelet. Cheers.
Thank you Bob, I might just do a duel, why not?!?! Best regards, TGV
Hey man I am interested in acquiring the ray raven but not sure about wrist size. What is your wrist size? i am right on 6". Do you think i can pull this one off?
Thank you!
Love the new intro! Very clean! Off-topic question, but do you have any suggestions on how to go about getting my SNA411 fitted with a sapphire crystal?
Thank you, There was a seller on eBay but it was a long time ago, maybe worth reaching out to yoboskies, Best regards, TGV
The Orient is a great Timepiece. A real professional tool.
love the video thank you for the entertainment you deserve everything good in life.
Thank you Jude, too kind, you are very welcome my friend. Best regards, TGV
Thank you Jude, too kind, you are very welcome my friend. Best regards, TGV
What happens if you scratch a PVD watch tho?
Rewatching this and I think it funny how we just went through the SARB033-035 crisis and I remember when this SKX crisis happened and they were going for north of $400. Now they can be found for much less.
Governor - I have heard you say that the SKX is no longer in production; but I haven't seen any official notice. Exactly what are your sources telling you. And will there be a replacement? (the Turtle?) LOVE the new open!
Watching this on November 2020! Do you have a link to that black mesh strap? Thank you!