10 GOLF RULES MYTHS!! Golf Monthly
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- The rules of golf are important to know if you want to get and then lower your handicap. In this video, Neil Tappin and Jezz Ellwood look at 10 golf rules myths - these are all things that players do either think they are proceeding under the rules when actually that rules doesn't exist or, worse still, they are getting the rule wrong and could end up with penalty shots or even disqualification. If you can understand these 10 golf rules myths you should avoid any unnecessary rules-related trouble!
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Great video, as usual. I always wondered if you can take relief from casual water on a tee box such that you’re teeing off from 3 or 4 club lengths behind the markers instead of within two club lengths. Thanks.
I have a query about the final example. The comment was that if the free relief from the path resulted in a drop in a bush because that was the nearest point of relief that you could then declare that unplayable and that the penalty drop would then be taken from there. However, can you not reject the free relief (you always have the option to play the ball as it lies even if there is free relief available) and then declare the ball unplayable from that position and take penalty relief from that original position if that results in a better outcome? Hope this is clear
Someone else has made the same point, and the answer is yes, you can - sorry, we should have gone on to explain that better in that final point
All these obscure rules are intended for professionals and I totally understand why good golfers and/or people playing for money should play by them - but I laugh at the 8 handicap guy who tells you to relax and gave fun, then penalizes you 2 strikes for some b.s. you've never heard of. Congratulations hero ! I got 106 instead of 104
Great video thank you.
I the last scenario - where the nearest relief from a path is in an unplayable bush....
If I then wish to take a penalty drop, if that drop would necessarily take me back onto the path, can I then get further free relief from the path?
- I’m thinking that there might be a scenario where the penalty dropped ball might then be closer to the “nicer side” of the path.
3.46 flirting with danger there with the buggy rolling in!
The way to 'deem a ball lost' when you have a good provisional is play, is to play the provisional quickly.
Usually it will be nearer the hole than where the first ball went, so by making a stroke it becomes the ball in play even if your opponent then finds the original ball back in the trees.
Ye usually 😂😂
@@jackodwyer8755 easiest shot in golf innit 😜
Yes, that is an option - might involve a bit of sprinting sometimes :)
@Tuukka Silventoinen I do wonder what utter nonsense goes on in the average monthly medal 🤦♂️
"When Provisional Ball Is Played from Spot Nearer Hole Than Where Original Ball Is Estimated to Be. The original ball is no longer in play (even if it is then found on the course before the end of the three-minute search time or is found nearer the hole than had been estimated) and is now a wrong ball that must not be played (see Rule 6.3c)."
Have you bothered to read it and just not understood?
Nah...loosing 2 strokes when it’s possible you find your original ball by playing a provisional? That’s like trying to loose on purpose.
Great vid, thanks
Glad you enjoyed it
Never seen Tappin and Crossfield in the same room at the same time..... 🗿
8:30 - A scenario I've experienced is a player hitting a provisional, only to hit it relatively close to the original shot. Then declaring that the ball that they've found was the original (and not the provisional)
No problem .If he or she can’t identify the original ball found they just need to declare one of the balls the provisional ball and that ball becomes the ball in play, the other ball is now wrong ball provided the balls were in the same area and outside a penalty area.
In the nearest v nicest scenario you do not have to take free relief before taking penalty relief (I guess inadvertently implied during the conversation). You can choose to take penalty relief for an unplayable lie anywhere (except in a penalty area) which may then lead you to a better place to drop directly (or following subsequent free relief if the unplayable relief doesn't get you clear of the abnormal course condition).
Thank you, and yes, sorry we didn't refer to that option. I guess our focus was really on how many people interpret 'nearest' as meaning 'nicest'
The most common rules infraction I see is dropping a ball in an incorrect spot. I can't tell you how many times I've heard "line of flight" in making a drop. Most times, this is after hitting a shot into a red penalty area. Also, I see a lot of players taking a drop using the point where the ball landed in the penalty area rather than the point where the ball last crossed the boundary.
I have to agree with you. Very few golfers know that the drop is take from where the ball last crossed the margin of the penalty area.
I tell others imagine there was a wall of Plastic Food Wrap rising from the margin.
Where would the Ball have "punched through the Plastic? That's your Point of Entry.
About 50 years ago, I was playing in the Southern California Intercollegiate championship at Torrey Pines--36 in one day. After each round, after signing the card, we went to the big score board and read the scores out to a marker who posted them for the world to see. I read out my front nine individual hole scores after which the marker asked me for the front nine total. "That is not my responsibility, that is the responsibility of the tournament committee," said I. Of course, a row ensued with I standing my ground, the marker refusing to do the addition and demanding that I do the math. It would be amusing to say that I missed my tee time for the second 18 and was disqualified, but finally someone from the committee arrived and confirmed that I was correct.
About a year before that happened, Roberto De Vicenzo missed out on a playoff for the Masters because he hurriedly (and mistakenly) signed for a 4 on the 71st hole when he had made 3. Because the score on the card for the hole was higher than his actual score, he was not disqualified, but he lost by a shot to Bob Goalby.
What if you play a nine hole course can you practice after you've played a green with a chip or putt...cause you will then play the second 9 ho l rd on the same greens
Excellent
Thank you! Cheers!
On the rule of nearest point of relief, if your ball lands on a cartpath that is 4ft wide and running parallel to the hole. The ball is just past the centre of the cart path, say 2ft 6in, near to the rough than the fairway. But to take relief in the rough and not be standing on the path, you would need to move the ball 4 or 5 ft, the take relief on the fairway you have to move the ball 3ft. Which is your nearest point of relief??
It’s in the rough. The rule is nearest point not nicest.
@@awebbo1426 nearest point, precisely!!
Move the ball 3ft or 5ft????
In the example you describe (i.e. a cart path running up the right of a hole for a right-hander if I understand it correctly), the nearest point of complete relief would be the fairway side as you can drop the ball there much closer to the path without interference because your stance is clear of the path automatically that side
Reading an article on GolfWRX and I’m confused are provisional balls still required for tee shot that go OB with the changes made in 2019?
Yes, It's not a rule that's in use anywhere..
Yes - the envisaged Local Rule for an alternative 'dropping back in bounds' procedure has had very little uptake (certainly in the UK) as the handicap authorities have refused to accept it in handicap qualifying competitions
Here in the US anyway, most courses I've played allowing that but not during tournament play. Technically, it is a local rule that the USGA has allowed, but if your course doesn't have it as a local rule, you have to re-tee it.
Steve Holliday That course must have tee times galore...a majority of provisional balls find another unfavorable location ergo more time wasted looking for the provisional and the ob ball you hope to be inbound.Take your 2 strokes and distance and play your fourth and everyone (except you) is happy.
Common mistake is now the new sand rule.. People think they can touch the bunker sand during the swing for example taking the club back and scooping sand away from thee back of the ball. That is still a 2(?) shot penalty.
NovaScene unless you’re Patrick Reed, then there’s no penalty
Please help.
If I hit a ball into a red hazard with no pond etc do you have to find that ball, if we agree it went in there do I drop where we agreed.
It's in the hazard so you can choose whether to (a) try finding it, and if successful play it out of the hazard without penalty; or (b) using the reference point (hopefully agreed) where it entered the hazard, and drop it according to red hazard rules, for one penalty stroke. You don't have to spend time looking for it because it's inside the hazard.
If you worry that an opponent will say "yes" to whatever number on a ball you find to identify that as their ball (say Titleist Pro V1 number 8) when you find the ball (#8) just say a different number than the actual one. If they say "yes" then it isn't their ball "My bad, this is a #8 so it isn'tyourball." If they say "no" and state the actual number, just look again and say "My bad. This is your ball."
Clever.. .and of course, this only applies when you're playing with someone you're a little suspicious of, which hopefully isn't that often!
Could you clarify the rule where you declare a ball unplayable (say inside a bush)? What I've been told is that it's two club lengths with a penalty or as far back as you like in line with the pin with a penalty. Is that correct?
In line with the pin you can go as far back as you want / can. But if you deem a ball unplayable, you can take 2 drivers lenghts from the spot where the ball is, not closer to the flag, and from that spot where the 2nd driver stops, you get the radious of one club where you can drop.
You also have the option to play the previous shot again under stroke and distance penalty. So if it was your tee shot that ended up in the bush, you have the option to go back and play 3 off the tee
NovaScene think you might like to look this rule up
@@NovaScene The ball must be dropped (and remain) within 2 club lengths (no closer to the hole) of the spot where the unplayable ball lay.
@@jimscott1607 So from the point of relief, the end of the second club, the drop rule is different in the 2019 rules then it is from every other drop?
For number 1: Can't you always just rehit from your previous spot? Declare the ball unplayable and hit w/ stroke and distance penalty would be the same as calling it lost right?
What courses have Pro Vs for range balls? Certainly not any golf course I've ever played :P
Tour events. After the event local shops will sell the balls for a discount - they all have PRACTICE written on them.
High end clubs do, but usually at a Pro Tournament, where Players can get the exact Ball they play, for warmups and practice, at the range.
You can't play a provisional ball if you think the only place your ball is lost is in a penalty area..
Also if your ball is in an area that allows relief but the nearest point of relief is in an unplayable area can you play the ball as it lies. Are there circumstances where you must take relief even if you are disadvantaged?
Off the top of my head, I think it might just be when your ball is in a 'no play zone' (see Rule 2.4) unless any other viewers know different?
Clarification please. I keep hearing that you can switch types or brands of ball on each hole. However, can you change balls during a hole? Thanks.
you have to finish the hole with the ball you started it with unless the original ball is lost or damaged. I believe in a drop for relief, you can exchange the ball for a matching ball. - based on an incident where a golfer autographed a ball that ended up in a spectator's clothing.
As well as replacing a damaged ball you also have the following option: Any time you get relief either free or penalty relief, you have the option to clean and if you wish replace your ball for any make or model. But as I said, only when you have the option to clean for penalty or free relief , also not winter rules of lift clean and place.
Oh dear, reckon #1 will catch quite a lot of people out!! Me for sure 😁
Hopefully not - as long as they watch this video!
What if I hit a ball that’s potentially lost. Then I call and hit a provisional and that one goes OB or into a water penalty area. Can I then ignore the provisional and go back to look for my first ball. Search 3 minutes and if still not found declare it lost? And take stroke and distance then and/or under 2019 local rules a 2-shot penalty drop on the fairway?
@@Chamolito1970 if the provisional is OOB and you dont find the original, then it's back to the tee to hit 5.
The new penalty rule can apply in a bounce game, but almost no clubs will allow that in a competition - it's at their discretion to allow it as a local rule
9. Didn't mention that you can practice on any practice putting green during round.
In a better ball match play competition an opponent had similar ball marks to mine so I he stood near the ball while his partner played his shot. I went to my Titleist which he thought was his Srixon only to find that his partner had played his ball. If they had kept quiet they would probably have at least halved the hole. So I'm a firm believer in competition the rule should be changed that the ball type number and any marking should be announced.
A ball hit towards a water hazard, I'll hit a provisional just in case!
If you are on tee, and you hit your ball towards water hazard 200yards down, and you can see where it would cut across the hazard. If it's in the hazard you are better off dropping at the hazard for a third stroke, than you are playing a provisional on tee for a third stroke.
@@nks1111 Just to clarify, if the only possible place your original ball could be lost is in a penalty area, you aren't allowed to play a provisional ball anyway (see Rule 18.3a)
@nks1111 - you are absolutely correct. If a provisional ball is played because the original might be and can only be in a penalty area, then it makes the original ball out of play.
A provisional ball can only be played if the first ball could be lost or OB. A ball cannot be lost in a penalty area. If a shot is hit into a penalty area, the player should proceed under the rules for penalty area. In the case you stated, the second ball becomes the ball in play even if you find your first, along with the stroke & distance penalty.
@@jeremyellwood4515 before the new elevated tee on the 10th at Sutton Green where there's a penalty area on the right off the tee that you couldn't see if a ball actually crosses into it which caused many an argument as to if the ball went in and if so where to drop.
If a water hazard is over a hill and out of sight can players assume it’s in the hazard if the ball cannot be found. If so where do you drop a new ball?
Hello there - no hazards any more under the Rules, only penalty areas. The Rule is that it must be known or virtually certain that the ball is in a penalty area rather than just possible or probable. In 'Definitions' it states that 'virtually certain' means 95% likely, though of course that may not always be easy to quantify
Jeremy Ellwood so no clearer then. If it is assumed to be in the penalty area, although nobody has seen it go in, where the new ball dropped if the point of entry cannot be ascertained?
I’m sure my knowledge of the provisional rule came from you two guys in a video !! You said that the player has to use the term provisional and if I don’t say that then my ‘reload’ is deemed the ball in play
So now you’re saying that I don’t have to use the word provisional, so if I don’t want to find the original ball how do I make sure my second shot is my ball in play?
put the second ball down and hit it. If you don’t declare your second ball as provisional it becomes the ball in play regardless of finding the first ball.
You are not obliged to use the word 'provisional' but you do have to make it clear the second ball is a provisional ball, so it's easiest just to use the word. If you don't clearly indicate the second ball is a provisional ball in some way it will become the ball in play
Nearest point of relief is rather disappointing if it isn’t really a relief, such as in your wonderful example. I wonder how many amateurs monkey that maneuver of bush avoidance.
Every time I think I know the Rules well, I find something new! In this case, your first tip: I often hit a "provisional" without any intent of finding my first ball. And I advise my group not to bother finding it as I know it is unlikely to be helpful to find my original. From now on in these cases I'm simply going to hit my second ball without declaring it a provisional. I think I would tend to do this more in match play than in medal play as I realize my second ball could be equally as disastrous and I'll have to finish the hole in any case or suffer disqualification. In match play, I'm simply risking loss of one hole.
If you hit a provisional into the woods and then find the first ball you can take an unplayable and get another chance at shot 3 from the tee
I actually ran into this playing a foursomes match earlier this year. The tee shot is over a ditch some 20-30' below the tee and not visible from the tee. My partner topped his tee shot off the end of the tee out of our sight. As there is long grass in the area, I declared that I would play a provisional and hit a good shot down the middle of the fairway. Neither my partner nor I went after the original tee shot deciding that we were likely to be better off with the provisional, but our opponents went to find the original, found it in the ditch and we then had to play from there.
I probably made the wrong choice by taking the drop out of the ditch and then having to play 3 out of heavy rough. Should have gone back to the tee and played three from there.
Can you change ball multiple times during the same hole in a scramble if the ball your partner hits is chosen and you drop next to it 🤔
There are elements of the Scramble format that mean it can't really be covered by the Rules of Golf in the same way as other formats, so not really sure on that one
Generally yes, in a Scramble, for pace of play puposes.
"Closest to the Hole" isn't always in the best position to play from, plus most Scrambles have "Required Quota of Tee Shots" per player.
Another myth: If you take a provisional, you can only take 1 shot before it becomes the ball in play.
Fact: You can take as many shots as you want with the provisional. It only becomes the ball in play after it passes the first ball.
M Salzberg mind to explain this a bit more or link an article? I’m a bit confused here 😅
You can play the provisional as many times as you need until you reach the area where you believe the first shot to be.
@@GolfMonthly yes,where your original ball is 'likely ' to be. If you hooked your ball in to an area of rocks and boulders for example and it ricocheted 60yds further up the fairway and no one saw this happening ,you played a provisional and it finished 30yds forward from where the original entered the rocky area, you searched 1 minute for it , gave up, walked forward 30 yds played the provisional, then walked another 30yds and found the original ball,the original ball is lost , the provisional became the ball in play when it was played ........
@@fern6902 The original tee shot travels say, 240 yards down the hole.
The "Provisional Ball" travels 220.
I am allowed to hit the Provisional Ball again to advance it past the "240 area" and have it remain Provisional, then begin my search for the Original when I arrive at the "240 area".
Then the 3 Minute Countdown begins.
Find the Original - I'm lying One.
CAN'T Find the Original - proceed to the Provisional which, here is now lying Four.
The ball is considered lost if another ball is put into play and not declared provisional
If your nearest point of relief is inside a tree, would you measure a club length from the tree, or from the point? Or is that not a valid point to take relief?
One club length from nearest point of relief, so in that case it would be 1 club length from the tree.
In such a scenario (probably quite a rare one) your nearest point of complete relief would be a specific estimated spot within the tree trunk from which you would then measure out the relief area. Hopefully, this would get you clear enough of the tree to at least play some sort of shot as I wouldn't think too many courses have trees with trunks of a huge diameter or circumference
In a case where a free drop would need you to take relief under penalty you would probably not take relief unless necessary.
Just so i understand re. Declaring a ball lost (the first thing you spoke about). You say that you cant declare it lost, but if you hit another ball without calling it a provisional then you cant play the first ball? So is that not exactly what people are looking to achieve when they declare the ball lost? What if i declare it lost and hit another? I dont use the word provisional, is the first ball effectively "lost"?
Yes, it is in a way, which is what we say. However, you obviously have to make that call on the tee (or wherever you're playing from) when you may or may not be sure exactly what kind of area the ball has landed in and what chance there is of it being playable or not. What you can't do is get to the area, see that it's a jungle and then declare it lost, although most playing companions probably wouldn't go and look if you'd asked them not to
There is the issue of search time (3 minutes) in match play. If your opponent finds your ball within the required time and you decide to declare the ball lost beforehand you have to take another penalty stroke on top of the ob strokes.
Should be noted that under the latest rules ,a provisional ball can be played after going to search for your ball! Within 3mins of course. check rules 18.3 a www.randa.org/en/rog/2019/rules/the-rules-of-golf/rule-18
and the interpretation: 18.3a/2 www.randa.org/en/rog/2019/rules/interpretations/rule-18-interpretations
But you would have to move quickly to get back to the point of the original shot within the 3 minute search time. If the search time expires (as described in the interpretation) you cannot play a provisional then
The one that still surprises me is how many golfers think their relief for a ball hit into a hazard is a drop anywhere along the flight of the ball. I keep asking hem to show me that rule.
Alan, I think this is the misinterpretation that many in our "seniors league" make. They know that an option when taking relief (penalty area or unplayable etc) is as far "back on a line" as you want. They treat it is "back on THE line" as in the line of flight, and not "a line from where the ball entered the penalty area and the flag/hole".
We also suffer from those who treat a heavily treed area or extreme rough as a penalty area, though they are not marked, and drop outside it within two club lengths of where it entered the dense forest!
So if u miss a putt on a hole you just played and carded a 5 for example, u can practice the putt u missed? Always assumed you couldn't?
Yes, if you're not unduly holding up play
Unless im playing against someone in a league or an actual tournament or for money they can do what they want it affects me zero
Me too. Although if we’re playing for a buck a hole...?
One low-handicapper I played against a few years ago insisted that if you go back to the tee (having lost your drive but not played a provisional), you cannot then tee the ball up. Pretty sure he was wrong and thankfully didn't face that situation with him!
He was, indeed, wrong!
On the lost ball rule, rather than declaring the ball lost, can you not declare it is unplayable? You would have to drop a ball on the line of flight no closer to the hole and take a stroke, but you would not have to try to play the found ball would you?
You always have the options of deeming your ball unplayable if you can find it and then have three options - go back to where you last played from under stroke and distance, or drop within two club-lengths or as far back as you like on a line keeping the spot where the ball is lying directly between you and the flag. The problem will be that in the deepest jungle or when you're close to OOB, neither of the last two options will always be practical, so you would then have no choice but to go back. What you can't then do is play the provisional ball you may have hit instead of going back
@@jeremyellwood4515 Ouch! Thanks for your reply.
Every time I watch these videos I think the punishments in golf sound ridiculously punitive.
A 2 stroke per hole penalty for accidentally using the wrong ball is madness.
I thought he clarified that you could change ball between holes. If you are referring to the Tour professional who was penalised 8 strokes I disagree. He knows the rules; it’s his job. I would question what on Earth those balls are doing in his bag in the first place.
This condition of competition rule was put into practice to stop players from alternating between "high spin" and "low spin" balls at the tee for a given hole and conditions.
This was a more common practice than most realize.
I've known all of these and had many arguments with people who didn't.
A surprising number of players believe that they have to drop off a tee like they would drop off a wrong green
If a playing partner finds a ball that may be yours, picks it up for identification, and it is your ball. If he is nice enough to improve your lie, can you play it? (This is assuming that you are too far away to be sure).
The short answer is "No" - you would then play from a wrong place and incur either the general penalty or even DQ if it was considered a serious breach and you did not correct the mistake. Under Rule 9 "Ball Played as it Lies" you must replace the ball on its original spot which if not known must be estimated. Whoever picked it up should have a pretty good idea whether it was lying on top of the rough or buried 6" down. The original spot does not mean 6" above where it was before! If by "partner" you mean someone who is on your "side" you will get a 1 stroke penalty for deliberately touching your ball (unless they marked the position of the ball first) as your partner is considered to have acted on your behalf. (NB You wouldn't get both the 1 stroke and general penalties if you then played it from the wrong place, just the general penalty). If by "partner" you mean your opponent in matchplay then they would get a 1 stroke penalty for deliberately touching or moving your ball (Rule 9.5)
When playing on a soft course with preferred lies, a player claims a plugged ball when he can't find and identify the ball. He just assumes it's plugged based on flight and direction and drops near where he believes it should be.
Indeed - however if it was known or virtually certain that the unfound ball had landed in an area of temporary water, free relief is available under Rule 16.1e dropping according to Rule 16.1b
You look like Jez of peep show
Or declare your ball unplayable
That's a push. Declaring 'Unplayable' from the Tee puts the next Tee Shot into play and it lies 3 wherever it ends up.
One I saw just this weekend playing in a competition. We were on a sloping green. I mark my ball, one of my playing partners marks his ball, the third guy does not. I put my ball back to putt. My ball rolls down the slope. I said I can replace mine because I have marked it. I do and get the putt. The ball that was not marked then also rolls down the slope. He goes to replace it and we both say - 'you can't do that you have to play it from where it is' - cue one very unhappy camper! Fortunately, we only had one hole left!
You can’t declare it lost but you can declare it unplayable
You would have to find it first so you could take the correct relief, club length line of sight or back to point of last shot.
New rules re red and yellow stakes please
No change really for yellow. For red, opposite side relief is no longer an option, but otherwise it's the same as before with the additional lateral relief option over and above the yellow stake options. What has changed is that clubs are allow to designated areas other than lakes, ponds, rivers, ditches as penalty areas if they so choose, whether or not there is water in them
@@jeremyellwood4515 Many thanks, I think I understand but a vid would be good
@@andrewnatt1448 Hello there, Andrew - we do have a video and story about this up on the Golf Monthly website via this link... www.golf-monthly.co.uk/features/golf-rules/penalty-areas-193005
No 2. You say "What ball are you playing?", not "Are you playing a Tiltiest No 7?". Duh!
Or of course if you are mean you say "Are you plyaing a Titliest No 7?" when you have just found a Top Flight 6!! Serves your opponent right if they say "Yes".
Ive had someone find the exact ball im playing but its not mine lol
SO... player with a Prov1 #2 hits an unmarked ball into the rough ... and finds 2-3 same brand there AND same number (unmarked too) .... can he just pick one and go on ??? Of course there are plenty of those balls hidden in rough all over courses ... the players ball might even have crawled it's way into water just beyond the rough without anyone seeing it and benefit from finding another one just short of that water ... this rule HAS to be changed ... a rule that says "ahhh ok ...it might be yours.... carry on" is a foolish one ... if u ask me!!
Hello there - no, that's what you can't do - as we say in the video, that's when you run into problems. Here's what the full Rules say about that scenario in Rule 7.2 (third bullet point)...
A player’s ball at rest may be identified in any one of these ways:
* By the player or anyone else seeing a ball come to rest in circumstances where it is known to be the player’s ball.
* By seeing the player’s identifying mark on the ball (see Rule 6.3a).
* By finding a ball with the same brand, model, number and condition as the player’s ball in an area where the player’s ball is expected to be (but this does not apply if an identical ball is in the same area and there is no way to know which one is the player’s ball).
It doesn't have to be in the rough either. If you and your playing partner are using the same brand, model and number ball without identifying marks and both hit drives to a blind fairway where you find them three feet apart, they would both be deemed lost as neither of you can definitely identify your ball.
1st one, lost ball. If you hit one into the trees and don’t bother going to find it and your “helpful” opponent decides to look and finds it for you, just declare it unplayable. Job done
Yes, but penalty shots are involved whatever unplayable option you go for
But I believe you can’t then use your provisional, if the unplayable option you choose is to go back to the tee you have to it again
@@jeremyellwood4515 but you decided to hit a provisional, so it’s three off the tee anyway. That provisional is the ball in play.
@@mollyrox27 but you played the provisional to cover those options. A provisional ball isn’t just for lost or OOB balls, it’s for any reason you might have to return to the tee to play another shot.
@@KeithGadget I'm not quite sure what you mean, Keith. The provisional ball is to save you a potentially long walk if you don't find your original or it's OOB. The provisional is not the ball in play until you find the original ball OOB or the three-minute search period comes to an end. If you find the original ball in play, even if you have to deem it unplayable, you can't then play the provisional - you must proceed under the Rules with the original ball.
How desperate and sad must you be to go and look for another players ball to stitch them up!
I don’t see it that way at all. What if it’s a competitive round? For a tournament or for money?
I’m with you there on account of having been the “victim” in match play. As a matter of fact handicaps can be beneficial to a high Player but detrimental to one that also isn’t that familiar with rules ergo some of these mental sharks will pray on the former.
@@seanm3226 Beat them with your game, not weasley actions like this. Its the sort of this when you notice someone has tee'd up fractionally in front of the lone between markers, wait till they hit it and then call it out. Low. No tournament is work selling your soul for. Win at all costs is not what golf is about, its why players call penalties on themselves and recently Rory asked for a worse lie after getting a drop when a camera man trod on his ball.
Biggest myth is that pros know the rules