Depending on how much free time I have this week might do a full breakdown of 2020 Lebron’s assist numbers. Pandora’s box has been opened ladies and gentlemen.
Let’s also take away points for traveling, offensive fouls not called, flopping, and all the extra foul calls the Lakers got over the last 2 1/2 years.
All is fair game. Do it all and take this guy out of all mainstream media’s mouths for ever putting him in any GOAT debate. He’s not there and never should’ve been put there in the first place.
@@alfsimmons3762 agreed. See Klutch is having a field day right now bc he's at the end and they're trying to make that last desperate push bc they know when he retires and its no longer fashionable to be a paid plant/flunky for him, it's open season. He's gonna get Lance Armstronged and all the dirt about him being juiced is gonna come out and that is gonna make whatever this bogus storyline about "juiced stats" is look like Candyland and its gonna be OVER
Including rebounds. Even besides the ones the whole team box out for him and it just falls to him, the others were tips from other lakers that go to lbj and they're counted for him.
yeah some other guy did this with some of lebrons assists against denver in the playoffs. he was getting assists for 3 dribbles every time. on one play the guy took 4 dribbles and somehow they still scored it an assist for lebron.
@@valjohnson7112 I like the one game where he got an assist when he passed the ball to a teammate at mid court the teammate was outside the 3 point line went into the paint dodged a defender and made a layup and lebron got an assist on that lol
Just like Jordan and his team with his documentary. Or with "AIR." He can't play anymore, so he has to keep reminding people he exists. You act like PR firms don't exist. Sports has politics involved. Cry about it. LeBron does it. Jordan does it. And I'm sure the next face of the league with do it. They should open the can of worms. Now we can see just how shitty all the players were from the era where you could slip the state keeper 100 dollars to pad your stats.
Lebron’s career is in lame duck mode. There’s nothing he can do to surpass MJ. No MVP’s, no DPOY, No Chips, just empty stats. Klutch knows this so they just try to destroy MJ’s legacy.
Forget about all of that and lets focus on the very basic. What part of LBJ game would you say separates him from every legend in NBA history? His foorwork is mid, not a great shooter, dunks are 90% tomahawks, assist may be a good one but nothing esp compared to the likes of magic, nash, etc. Defense is below the likes of mj, kobe, hakeem etc. He doesn''t even have a legit iconic signature move to be remembered. All he really has is longevity. And that may impressive but that is not a basketball skill.
@@ZidaneSteinerEven tho lebron is the all time leading scorer in points, he still hasn’t till this day the same amount of Awards achieved that MJ has over him. You cant deny that cuz that is a FACT.
The desperation is real. To question someone's greatness to uplift another player who has no reason being in the GOAT conversation let alone top ten when his peers won more and lost less compared to him.
@@anthonystevenson830 that's how you know this whole thing is bogus. If you're truly the greatest, you don't have to tear down other legends to make yourself look better because your resume speaks for itself
@@anthonystevenson830 it's goalpost moving 101. If I can't reach it, then we're gonna either lower the bar or make it seem like you somehow cut corners to get there lol its embarrassing 😂
It went from, “I can’t call myself GOAT, I never faced Russ, Wilt, Elgin, Big O, West, Cap,” to, - “I need more help,” - “I’m GOAT because of one series,” - “I’m supposed to be #1 on everybody list,” - “I’m The Chosen One,” - “I’m King,” - “I want my damn respect,” - “I play the right way,” and people referring to players of the past as “plumbers and firemen.” A sorry-ass decline in class, personal responsibility and respect.
-- agree. i have Lebron at 3rd best behind MJ and Kareem. But truthfully, his coaching firing and team hopping to bring in former #1 first round picks to create a super team is...elite. Most great players are near the end of the prime before they jump ship. Lebron? KD? As Kobe said, CHARMIN SOFT.
Is that why there are dozens of hate channels who post daily about Lebron? Or are you talking about talking down about competition/competitors excluding Lebron? Asking for a friend
@@LL-zm9goALL mainstream media lies to brainwash the people. It's not "hate" but TRUTH.. People are simply trying to undo the lies media has fed people.
All of Klutch Sports' efforts over the years just further strengthens the FACT that MJ is the GOAT. Why do I say that? Because, LeBron and Klutch Sports absolutely do not want the public to decide by using the eye-test, achievements and CONTEXT. They know that if it came down to those organic factors, then LeBron isn't in the same book, let alone the same page, as MJ. That's why they're resorting to propaganda. Do you know how many LeBron fans have never even saw Jordan play and when they go back and look, they change their minds? Exactly....
Everything about Lebron career is a manufactured product.. He truly is a great player in essence but he's tarnished the legitimacy of his legacy from top to bottom.. He wears Jordan number, plays on Kobe team, made Space Jam movie, over inflated stats, superteam rings, PEDs etc.. Nothing about this dude is authentic
The idea that Klutch has everyone possible working to discredit MJ for things that Lebron gets away with for real is laughable. MJ didn't need anyone to inflate his states and he was intent on earning his wins. OTOH, Lebron gets credit for assists he doesn't deserve, doesn't get calls for fouls he commits, gets multiple opportunities for free throws at the end of games that don't matter other than to pad his stats. Lebron's career has been manufactured. They have tried to make him relevant and put him on a level he doesn't belong. The insecurity and weakness this shows is just one more evidence that he will never come close to MJ...
@@ta4life27 Unlike Jordan at least LeBron has hair. LeBron is the reason why most people watch NBA in fact he is bigger then NBA in many ways. LeBron = GOAT:
It’s funny how they’re now resorting to full-scale operations and analysis (with cherrypicked games or numbers) in order to come up with reasons to discredit Jordan and other great former players. First it was ”no competition”, then it was ”no left hand”, now we’ve got this. I’ve got a suggestion: why don’t we start a similar trend, where we take a look at PEDs, gambling & rigged games, so favoritism, all the travelling and flopping, and lastly the media’s bias? If we were to do similar research on these topics I can guarantee the results would be far too shocking for most people to handle, especially LeFraud fans.
Yep, innuendo and conspiracy. What I really dislike is how casually the article claims the stat keeper willfully inflated Jordan's stats because he worked for the bulls. If you're going to make such claims, you'd better give me specifics.
When your argument is poor, you need to try to lower the bar in order to appear impressive. I have never seen a group of people brag about how long an athlete is playing than this mob…
Klutch Sports, making the "Shut up and dribble" lady look like a prophet. Although she should've said "Shut up and lift your pivot foot, then again, then again, then carry the ball, then travel then flop then throw a fake punch at a female Denver fan"
I'm almost surprised someone isn't claiming Lebron's turnover numbers are inflated considering he broke the record for most turnovers in history back in 2021.
I had a bronsexual try to tell me that Jason Kidd was the nbas all time turnover leader .. I sent him links to stat muse showing LeTurnover being at the top of that list .. he said I photoshopped it😂😂😂😂 bruh its a link not a photo🤣🤣
@@QwietStormeverything he said was correct Fym the irony He didn’t debunk it The difference between Jordan’s home and away stats in 88 Are way bigger than lebron’s 2009 home and away stats
@@QwietStormin fact he brought up multiple points about the article and just didn’t address them for the rest of the video And based his debunk on one or 2 categories that is not even half the categories That the article has
@@Unanimouseditz the article has already been proven to be crap, regardless of whether or not this video even exists. What insecurity? What desperation? I'm laughing at this whole scenario. What is this person even talking about?
It's all projection. Claim Jordan had no bag when Lebron is the Bagless One. Claim stats are inflated when you're the one who we have documentation of with inflated assists.
LeBron has never won a DPOY award, so LeBron James fans believe that MJ's DPOY award should be nullified. I can empathize with their frustration, as it must be challenging to uphold an ever-expanding narrative, that contradicts established facts.
I find it interesting that this type of article comes up after the rumblings about James and his assists (that they are inflated, and that it is WAY easier to log an assist these days) and rebounds (that he cherry picks the majority of his rebounds). The timing is suspect at best, and just smacks of KLUTCH media lies.
@@Des420 it is disgusting. I don't know why people get upset about dunking in the last seconds of a blowout, but they turn a blind eye to James and his stat padding. It's so hypocritical, and insanely disrespectful by James.
All those useless defensive rebounds where there is no one around him but his teammates. When I look at rebounds, it is the offensive ones that matters to me. MJ, as a smaller guy, averaged more offensive rebound than the so called freak in nature Lebron. It tells you all you need to know about who is the better rebounder.
LBJ team/“posse” and his fans make it really hard to appreciate his game/career/legacy. I just know it’s going to get 100x worse when he retires. It’s no middle ground it’s the people who dislike LBJ and people who are on their knees about him
The MJ character and career assassination boggles the mind. Why do they want LeBron to be better than him so bad? Its crazy to me and has been since his High School days. ITS WEIRD and unnatural.
@@howsittastes? Just shut up dude, really. You can say it over n over but it won't will it into existence..Lebron will never be at Jordan's level. No matter how many BS arguments you guys pull out your butts to try to make it so.
The modern assist rule is complete garbage. That’s a player making an individual play to score. I had no idea the NBA did that to boost stats for players. What a joke
@Uncut Hoops Tom haberstroh doesn't even know what counts as a steal. Look at what he says about the 4 min highlight vs the nets. He says there are 6 steals but you watch the highlight and there are 7 arguably 8 steals. If he can't get it right in a 4min video we shouldn't trust his count.
Boy, ohh, boy I have so much to say about this. I don't know for sure, but this "investigation" done by the Yahoo Sports journalist seems to me more like a desperate attempt to tarnish Jordan's achievements and, on that background, glorify LeBron's "successes". Does he want to "revive" the debate about who is the greatest player of all time between Michael and LeFraud? If that was the goal I have to say he didn't do a very good job. First of all, how did he choose to try to analyze based on only six games whether statisticians juiced Jordan's defensive numbers to improve his chances of winning the Defensive Player of the Year award or not. Secondly, why did this respected gentleman not bother to be fair enough to admit that the previous year this title should have been given to Michael Jordan but the one who received it was another Michael - Cooper, while Jordan was ahead of him by a significant margin in five out of six defensive categories!!! Third thing I have to say. Why don't we examine the titles and accolades of LeBalko James and I'm sure that with a unbiased look we'd probably come to conclusion that many of his statistical achievements and records are also inflated by referees not calling for steps, offensive fouls, his floppings, whistles that undeservedly benefit him to go to free throw line instead of another turnover. And some of the assists that are credited to him were actually "gifted" to him because the player he handed the ball to was the one who would have done the action that would allowed him to score. Then we would find out that the king of the records book of The NBA happens to be a one big joke.
What's even more disgusting is, he uses six games that can't be found on open internet or archive, so he could literally say anything he likes, in the hopes that not many people have those tapes as well, to call him out on the BS, just think logically, using six games to justify a season of 82 games? That's like I pick any six years of someone's life to decide what kind of person he/she is, just ridiculous, those LBJ die hard fanboys and supporter are so pathetic.
Thank you! I was fighting people on X about this! I would say "We can't even watch the games!" And people would say "There's links!" And I would have to go "Did you click on those links? Obviously not..." People are so nuts. Thank you for bringing sanity!
Get em. The NBA has just really never been the same since Jordan retired. And you ever notice any time they ever compare a new player to somebody it's Jordan and they never say this guy's the next LeBron James
Modern NBA is a complete joke and it's fans have grown up on crap basketball and rules. Assists are the biggest joke. Change the rules to help the failing league.
Great Job Dude!! You really went in depth about MJ'S steals and thanks for showing us Proof of LeBron's hyped up assists not just accusing LeBron but showing Footage.😂😂
Everything they try to bring up about Jordan is really just projection from LeBum’s career. Weak era. Inflated stats. The league having special rules for him and doing everything they can to assist him in winning.
If Haberstroh sees a deflection that might've been Jordan's, he doesn't know if Jordan is credited with the steal or not.. The announcer usually doesn't announce that.. That's why Haberstroh needed to count all the live ball turnovers in the game himself, and then claim that Jordan's reported steals were more than the live-ball turnovers - that's the only way to know that some of Jordan's steals were fraudulent. Accordingly, all Haberstroh did was under-count the total live-ball turnovers as he's watching the game - just skip one or two here and there - and then Jordan's steals will be more than the live-ball turnovers, so Haberstroh can claim Jordan's steals are overstated... And no one can verify Haberstroh's count of the live-ball turnovers because he got the VHS from a guy in Latvia and none of the games are on youtube.. literally. That's the whole fraud.. And history shows that the "normal" home inflation for players in prior eras was due to tougher road conditions and MUCH worse road records, while the one-offs of massive inflation for 88' MJ, 90' Hakeem and 86' Robertson is explained by any number of factors such as personal issues that affected home and road performance in that particular year.
They should not be talking about inflated stats for Jordan when it comes to defending Lebron 😂. Rebounds inflated, he barely passed Jordan in total offensive rebounds recently and has averaged less per game for their careers, quite common to see his teammates clear out just to let him get the defensive board with no struggle or tip it to him and it counts as a lebron board. Assists inflated, the way they count assists now is so loose, players can take multiple dribbles and it’s still counted as an assist so many examples of lebron getting assists this way. Points inflated, this is mostly due to his era, but how many times do we see lebron drive to the basket with no contact at the rim? no 3 second call or a enforcer bigman in the paint and a defender handchecking him on the perimeter makes it incredibly easy for him to drive into empty lanes to the basket and even then if you touch him it’s a foul and free throws at the line. add on top of that how he scores most of his baskets at the rim efficiently around 60% because of this, even though his percentages from 3 feet away from the basket are below average 37%, and of course travelling calls not called on him and the overall looseness that rule has nowadays.
SLUTS sports may erase the entire stats of Jordan but they would NEVER erase the EXPERIENCE OF SEEING HOW GREAT HE PLAYED THE GAME. Reason why AI, BARKLEY, Vince Carter, Steve Nash, John Stockton and the likes were all arguably better than LeFraud.
When lebum runs to the rim everyone moves out the way... When Jordan when to the rim everyone was trying to block him or knock him out. Yes it's a big difference😂
Thank You glad someone finally says it.. I was questioning how assists was being checked off when someone gets the ball off a pass dribbles and moves around makes the shot and that player gets a assists.. makes NO sense. Seems the NBA changed that to help make players look better than they are. I grew up if you Bounce the ball, or make a move and score that is NOT a assist...
I can't believe we're actually at a point where we're grasping at any little thing we possibly can to discredit Jordan that we're suddenly acting like players don't play better at home than on the road and this hasn't happened for the entirety of sports history.
As much jealousy as the rest of the league had for 23 you don't think players would have called this ish out in real time? Especially when he was the hyped rookie.
Yes, my thoughts exactly. Until all of these games are available to the public....this shouldnt even be a story. The only reason it blew up is because of all of the Lebron fan boys running with this BS story. Make ALL of those Bulls home games available and if that happens, I encourage Lebron fans to watch those games. Even if the stats were inflated, after watching those games, most of yall will jump off of that LeBron train real quick and you will see what REAL GREATNESS is!!
The funniest thing about everything is Lebron James is obsessed with Jordan and Jordan couldn’t give two shits about Lebron James and that’s what’s killing him,it’s just like his daddy issues on desplay for the world to see
The funny thing is Jordan had only 23 less steals and 6 less blocks with an almost identical discrepancy the year prior. Yet, Jordan didn’t crack the top 5 in DPOY voting, nor make any All-Defensive team that year. The writer brings up MJ being irked that Michael Cooper won the DPOY while only averaging 1.0 spg and 0.5 bpg, yet leaves out the context as to why MJ wasn’t in the conversation for the DPOY that year (hint: the Bulls 40-42 record and 10th ranked defense had a lot to do with it). Historical context has never been Klutch Sports strong suit.
I have two games from that list: January 16 and March 18. I also have home games from Dec 12 and 17, Jan 30, Feb 23 and 26, March 10. It is not hard to fish various games from the past. I mean one has to have a major vendetta to come up with the plan to find some home games, watch them to write an article on how stat counters interpret the stats. As far as I understand stat keepers are NBA people and not some backyard friends and family of Bulls players. The whole notion of going back nearly 40 years in the past and counting the stats is idiotic at best. I mean, what, you wake up one morning and think to yourself, you know, I think MJ stats were miscounted in this particular season, I just feel it...
Great video, mate. The games you refer to from 1988 that are from Reinis in Latvia are in much wider circulation than you'd think. I am in Australia and have > 40 games from MJ's 1988 season in my collection.
LeBalco is just a laughingstock at this point. He'll be on the PDiddy, Will Smith & DWade list soon that has ZERO to do with basketball. Then he'll finish on the AROD Barry Bonds list after that, pathetic.
Here's a fun exercise. Watch several regular season Lakers' games from anytime in the past three years. Without looking at the box score, add up LeBron's shots, rebounds, & assists. Now compare those numbers to the official NBA box score and be prepared to laugh your ass off.
Excellent vid. The fact that someone would bring this up right as Lebron is crying about never winning DPOY raises enough suspicion on its own. The fact that the guy used some not readily available tapes as the basis to generalize should have been called out by the media. However, we now know that most of LeMedia is "represented" by Klutch Sports aka Corrupt Sports.
Even that one steal that you are saying is iffy, I don't know the exact rules, but from what I see, the person that gains the possession gets credited for the steal, not the one who deflects the ball. I do think it makes sense because you can deflect the ball and the ball can still ends up on the opponent's hand, in which case, it becomes complicated how to credit a steal. And I've seen this not just for Jordan, but for everyone, even today.
Nice work Uncut hoops and I said this on X/Twitter when I first heard the claims...LeBron and Klutch really do NOT want to go down this road because LeBron's entire career has been inflated
Klutch Sports is pathetic, and the problem with this is it just shows that Lebron cares way too much about stats. The only stats MJ ever cared about was winning Championships.
Depending on how much free time I have this week might do a full breakdown of 2020 Lebron’s assist numbers. Pandora’s box has been opened ladies and gentlemen.
@@uncuthoops facts because Lebron is the LAST person to be trying to say somebody else is inflating stats 😂😂 this is gonna be a massive backfire
Saw already few people destroying lebron stats, here and on twitter. Two can play that game.
I didn't realize how much I needed this series. Let's Gooooooo
Spill it please
@@orinocoPLvery easy to destroy LeBron's. More games accessible and I mean guy never gets called for offensive fouls
So while we're at it, are we gonna take away the last 15 years of Lebrons stats because of the PEDs? Since we're opening up Pandoras box
Let’s also take away points for traveling, offensive fouls not called, flopping, and all the extra foul calls the Lakers got over the last 2 1/2 years.
@@CurtisT1019 sounds fair to me
All is fair game. Do it all and take this guy out of all mainstream media’s mouths for ever putting him in any GOAT debate. He’s not there and never should’ve been put there in the first place.
@@alfsimmons3762 agreed. See Klutch is having a field day right now bc he's at the end and they're trying to make that last desperate push bc they know when he retires and its no longer fashionable to be a paid plant/flunky for him, it's open season. He's gonna get Lance Armstronged and all the dirt about him being juiced is gonna come out and that is gonna make whatever this bogus storyline about "juiced stats" is look like Candyland and its gonna be OVER
they've already searched for that and found nothing lmao... who knows what might come out soon about jordan tho...
Lebron's assist stats are way over rated.
Including rebounds. Even besides the ones the whole team box out for him and it just falls to him, the others were tips from other lakers that go to lbj and they're counted for him.
@@Kr4v3rd true. His rebounds and assists are overrated. They don't make you the goat !
yeah some other guy did this with some of lebrons assists against denver in the playoffs. he was getting assists for 3 dribbles every time. on one play the guy took 4 dribbles and somehow they still scored it an assist for lebron.
@@valjohnson7112 I like the one game where he got an assist when he passed the ball to a teammate at mid court the teammate was outside the 3 point line went into the paint dodged a defender and made a layup and lebron got an assist on that lol
Click on my page they gave LBJ a rebound and assist and he didn't even touch the ball.
And no I'm not a bot...
Truth is Klutch sport opened BIG can of worms. It will backfire massively.
Facts. I’m convinced that they started the “done with 90’s” trend
And I actually remember Lebum chewing his nails in klutch time pun intended
@@Fortheloveofsneakshealth lebron was losing to 90s players
Just like Jordan and his team with his documentary. Or with "AIR." He can't play anymore, so he has to keep reminding people he exists. You act like PR firms don't exist. Sports has politics involved. Cry about it. LeBron does it. Jordan does it. And I'm sure the next face of the league with do it. They should open the can of worms. Now we can see just how shitty all the players were from the era where you could slip the state keeper 100 dollars to pad your stats.
@zer0h0urs000 the 5000 turnovers lebron has were those bull shitted also
Lebron’s career is in lame duck mode. There’s nothing he can do to surpass MJ. No MVP’s, no DPOY, No Chips, just empty stats. Klutch knows this so they just try to destroy MJ’s legacy.
And I actually remember Lebum chewing his nails in klutch time pun intended
Forget about all of that and lets focus on the very basic. What part of LBJ game would you say separates him from every legend in NBA history? His foorwork is mid, not a great shooter, dunks are 90% tomahawks, assist may be a good one but nothing esp compared to the likes of magic, nash, etc. Defense is below the likes of mj, kobe, hakeem etc. He doesn''t even have a legit iconic signature move to be remembered. All he really has is longevity. And that may impressive but that is not a basketball skill.
@@johnweak628 cope harder. LeBron is the greatest player you've ever witnessed, and you'll never see another one do what he did.
@@ZidaneSteiner Yes we will we have seen better players before and after. Heck Lebron isn't the best player of this generation.
@@ZidaneSteinerEven tho lebron is the all time leading scorer in points, he still hasn’t till this day the same amount of Awards achieved that MJ has over him. You cant deny that cuz that is a FACT.
The desperation is real. To question someone's greatness to uplift another player who has no reason being in the GOAT conversation let alone top ten when his peers won more and lost less compared to him.
@@anthonystevenson830 that's how you know this whole thing is bogus. If you're truly the greatest, you don't have to tear down other legends to make yourself look better because your resume speaks for itself
@moonwalker1298 exactly, then his fans who make the most ridiculous excuses for why he lost, trying to make it seem like 2nd place is better then 1st.
@@anthonystevenson830 it's goalpost moving 101. If I can't reach it, then we're gonna either lower the bar or make it seem like you somehow cut corners to get there lol its embarrassing 😂
And I actually remember Lebum chewing his nails in klutch time pun intended
It went from,
“I can’t call myself GOAT, I never faced Russ, Wilt, Elgin, Big O, West, Cap,”
to,
- “I need more help,”
- “I’m GOAT because of one series,”
- “I’m supposed to be #1 on everybody list,”
- “I’m The Chosen One,”
- “I’m King,”
- “I want my damn respect,”
- “I play the right way,”
and people referring to players of the past as “plumbers and firemen.”
A sorry-ass decline in class, personal responsibility and respect.
Yes Lebron is chasing a ghost? The one who told him he is the one. Lefraud trying to hoodwink everyone. Greatness doesnt proclaim itself, others do.
They manage to galvanize the basketball community that respects greatness.. its gonna be fun to watch LePropaganda getting roasted for lies and bs
he didn't even surpass kobe and magic..why all of this media saying lebron is better than kobe and magic..?..can anyone ask to them..?..
He said himself “I’m still chasing the ghost from Chicago”
Facts
The king of leaving game early when losing Lebron James
MJ lives rent free in these goofball heads 😂
The irony 😂
Lebron achieves greatness by destroying the competition's name and integrity. LMAO
-- agree. i have Lebron at 3rd best behind MJ and Kareem.
But truthfully, his coaching firing and team hopping to bring in former #1 first round picks to create a super team is...elite. Most great players are near the end of the prime before they jump ship. Lebron? KD? As Kobe said, CHARMIN SOFT.
I got Le'Balco 4th all time
Is that why there are dozens of hate channels who post daily about Lebron? Or are you talking about talking down about competition/competitors excluding Lebron? Asking for a friend
@@LL-zm9goALL mainstream media lies to brainwash the people.
It's not "hate" but TRUTH..
People are simply trying to undo the lies media has fed people.
Not on the court
All of Klutch Sports' efforts over the years just further strengthens the FACT that MJ is the GOAT. Why do I say that? Because, LeBron and Klutch Sports absolutely do not want the public to decide by using the eye-test, achievements and CONTEXT. They know that if it came down to those organic factors, then LeBron isn't in the same book, let alone the same page, as MJ. That's why they're resorting to propaganda. Do you know how many LeBron fans have never even saw Jordan play and when they go back and look, they change their minds? Exactly....
Great comment
Everything about Lebron career is a manufactured product.. He truly is a great player in essence but he's tarnished the legitimacy of his legacy from top to bottom.. He wears Jordan number, plays on Kobe team, made Space Jam movie, over inflated stats, superteam rings, PEDs etc.. Nothing about this dude is authentic
We all seen his real hairline😂😂😂
The idea that Klutch has everyone possible working to discredit MJ for things that Lebron gets away with for real is laughable. MJ didn't need anyone to inflate his states and he was intent on earning his wins. OTOH, Lebron gets credit for assists he doesn't deserve, doesn't get calls for fouls he commits, gets multiple opportunities for free throws at the end of games that don't matter other than to pad his stats. Lebron's career has been manufactured. They have tried to make him relevant and put him on a level he doesn't belong. The insecurity and weakness this shows is just one more evidence that he will never come close to MJ...
I don’t know if Michael Jordan slept with LeBrons mom forty years ago but I do know that Jordan is LeBron’s daddy
The fact his teammate smashed his mother disqualified LeCuck from ever being in the conversation.
Naw... that was "allegedly" Delonte West
She was under age for MJ but mr.west smashed it now he is homeless
Labron james has literally become a cancer to the NBA. Trying to take on jordan is like taking on his own hairline. Hint..he lost.
😂 good one
@@ta4life27 Unlike Jordan at least LeBron has hair. LeBron is the reason why most people watch NBA in fact he is bigger then NBA in many ways. LeBron = GOAT:
If they counted assist numbers like in the 90's LeBron would lose half of his assists. Let's open that can of worms
It’s funny how they’re now resorting to full-scale operations and analysis (with cherrypicked games or numbers) in order to come up with reasons to discredit Jordan and other great former players. First it was ”no competition”, then it was ”no left hand”, now we’ve got this. I’ve got a suggestion: why don’t we start a similar trend, where we take a look at PEDs, gambling & rigged games, so favoritism, all the travelling and flopping, and lastly the media’s bias? If we were to do similar research on these topics I can guarantee the results would be far too shocking for most people to handle, especially LeFraud fans.
Yep, innuendo and conspiracy. What I really dislike is how casually the article claims the stat keeper willfully inflated Jordan's stats because he worked for the bulls. If you're going to make such claims, you'd better give me specifics.
When your argument is poor, you need to try to lower the bar in order to appear impressive.
I have never seen a group of people brag about how long an athlete is playing than this mob…
Show me the gambling
@@618Prez Jontay Porter and Tim Donaghy.
Someone should do a comparison of LBJ flops to MJ's actually getting knocked down and beaten up going to the basket. Those would be great highlights
Klutch Sports, making the "Shut up and dribble" lady look like a prophet.
Although she should've said "Shut up and lift your pivot foot, then again, then again, then carry the ball, then travel then flop then throw a fake punch at a female Denver fan"
I'm almost surprised someone isn't claiming Lebron's turnover numbers are inflated considering he broke the record for most turnovers in history back in 2021.
That’s the one category I can agree he’s the greatest of all time; turnovers.
I had a bronsexual try to tell me that Jason Kidd was the nbas all time turnover leader .. I sent him links to stat muse showing LeTurnover being at the top of that list .. he said I photoshopped it😂😂😂😂 bruh its a link not a photo🤣🤣
I'm not Surprised because LeBron average 5 turnovers a game so his RECORD right on POINT
😂🤣😂🤣
Actually his turnovers are deflated imagine if they actually call even half his travels...
My man came with a bag full of receipts lol. Klutch need to be scrubbed off the internet at this point.
Right because looking at stats/game film from 1997 debunks everything about 1988 🤣. Ya’ll are so insecure and desperate
@@LL-zm9go I cannot believe the irony in the nonsense you just said
@@QwietStormeverything he said was correct
Fym the irony
He didn’t debunk it
The difference between Jordan’s home and away stats in 88
Are way bigger than lebron’s 2009 home and away stats
@@QwietStormin fact he brought up multiple points about the article and just didn’t address them for the rest of the video
And based his debunk on one or 2 categories that is not even half the categories
That the article has
@@Unanimouseditz the article has already been proven to be crap, regardless of whether or not this video even exists. What insecurity? What desperation? I'm laughing at this whole scenario. What is this person even talking about?
Assists are supposed to be one dribble or less after the pass. Crazy they're giving them to lebum with 2+ dribbles
It's all projection. Claim Jordan had no bag when Lebron is the Bagless One. Claim stats are inflated when you're the one who we have documentation of with inflated assists.
That Latvia Guy explanation is the biggest BS I have ever heard.
Agreed but you know Bron fans won’t logically question it
@@Like-oe1cynope. Questioning their false reality is “hating” to them 😂
LeBron has never won a DPOY award, so LeBron James fans believe that MJ's DPOY award should be nullified. I can empathize with their frustration, as it must be challenging to uphold an ever-expanding narrative, that contradicts established facts.
If he didnt win in 2013 why didnt he do what Mike did in 87. Play hard the next year and win it.
@@leonardjackson6210 LeBron doesn't have the same mindset as MJ.
@@leonardjackson6210 Cuz he is a quitter, he quits that's what he does best.
Klutch def paid that dude. It's pathetic and disgusting how badly they wanna make Lebron the GOAT.
Just more false talk about Jordan just like they said Jordan had no left hand which is very hilarious
LeBron has an old left hand
MJ. Living in a Mansion. Rent-free in Clutch sports and LeFraud’s head. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
inc Klutch sports bots and femboys
I find it interesting that this type of article comes up after the rumblings about James and his assists (that they are inflated, and that it is WAY easier to log an assist these days) and rebounds (that he cherry picks the majority of his rebounds). The timing is suspect at best, and just smacks of KLUTCH media lies.
The Lakers literally clear the lanes for him to get the defensive rebound and he actively gets upset if they get one by accident.
@@Des420 it is disgusting. I don't know why people get upset about dunking in the last seconds of a blowout, but they turn a blind eye to James and his stat padding.
It's so hypocritical, and insanely disrespectful by James.
All those useless defensive rebounds where there is no one around him but his teammates. When I look at rebounds, it is the offensive ones that matters to me. MJ, as a smaller guy, averaged more offensive rebound than the so called freak in nature Lebron. It tells you all you need to know about who is the better rebounder.
This is why the NBA can't move on worrying about 30 years ago not the fact that the Celtics just won a championship in 2024. It's a joke.
The NBA assist 's rule in 2027: if the player passes the ball, and the receiver scores in less than 5 seconds, an assist is awarded
MAKES ME FEEL LEBRON DESPISES AND IS ENVIOUS OF MJ ...
players are supposed to play better at home
Jordan played better every game😂😂
LBJ team/“posse” and his fans make it really hard to appreciate his game/career/legacy. I just know it’s going to get 100x worse when he retires. It’s no middle ground it’s the people who dislike LBJ and people who are on their knees about him
If Lebron has to try this hard to prove he is the goat it just shows he is not.
MJ the best. Period.
When I was growing up, an assist was when there's a pass and a made shot without a dribble. That's an assist.
Yeah!!! It's different now? I can't watch a whole game now only highlights
If you have to go back 35 years to try and tarnish one of the greatest players of all time you've already lost the argument.
The MJ character and career assassination boggles the mind. Why do they want LeBron to be better than him so bad? Its crazy to me and has been since his High School days. ITS WEIRD and unnatural.
Facts don't care about MJ's feelings..
@@howsittastes? Just shut up dude, really. You can say it over n over but it won't will it into existence..Lebron will never be at Jordan's level. No matter how many BS arguments you guys pull out your butts to try to make it so.
@@howsittastes What facts?
Lebum rub elbows with the white media... We all know who that is. Just ask kyrie..
Its a feminine trait these dudes move and act like hurt women 😂
Do people not know that the NBA has a staff that reviews every game when finished and corrects any stats. This has been since at least 1990.
The modern assist rule is complete garbage. That’s a player making an individual play to score. I had no idea the NBA did that to boost stats for players. What a joke
Klutch sports is effectively a propaganda machine
According to Klutch Sports, Jordan used CGI to create this video that verified his stats.
Lebron is literally known for stat padding.
@Uncut Hoops
Tom haberstroh doesn't even know what counts as a steal.
Look at what he says about the 4 min highlight vs the nets. He says there are 6 steals but you watch the highlight and there are 7 arguably 8 steals. If he can't get it right in a 4min video we shouldn't trust his count.
Boy, ohh, boy I have so much to say about this.
I don't know for sure, but this "investigation" done by the Yahoo Sports journalist seems to me more like a desperate attempt to tarnish Jordan's achievements and, on that background, glorify LeBron's "successes". Does he want to "revive" the debate about who is the greatest player of all time between Michael and LeFraud? If that was the goal I have to say he didn't do a very good job. First of all, how did he choose to try to analyze based on only six games whether statisticians juiced Jordan's defensive numbers to improve his chances of winning the Defensive Player of the Year award or not. Secondly, why did this respected gentleman not bother to be fair enough to admit that the previous year this title should have been given to Michael Jordan but the one who received it was another Michael - Cooper, while Jordan was ahead of him by a significant margin in five out of six defensive categories!!! Third thing I have to say. Why don't we examine the titles and accolades of LeBalko James and I'm sure that with a unbiased look we'd probably come to conclusion that many of his statistical achievements and records are also inflated by referees not calling for steps, offensive fouls, his floppings, whistles that undeservedly benefit him to go to free throw line instead of another turnover. And some of the assists that are credited to him were actually "gifted" to him because the player he handed the ball to was the one who would have done the action that would allowed him to score. Then we would find out that the king of the records book of The NBA happens to be a one big joke.
What's even more disgusting is, he uses six games that can't be found on open internet or archive, so he could literally say anything he likes, in the hopes that not many people have those tapes as well, to call him out on the BS, just think logically, using six games to justify a season of 82 games? That's like I pick any six years of someone's life to decide what kind of person he/she is, just ridiculous, those LBJ die hard fanboys and supporter are so pathetic.
i appreciate the work you do uncut!!! well done!!
What if Magic, Larry, MJ teamed up?
Freakin G.O.L.D!
Larry is trash!!! He didn't lead the League in nothing!! Black men had to win them games
Thank you! I was fighting people on X about this! I would say "We can't even watch the games!" And people would say "There's links!" And I would have to go "Did you click on those links? Obviously not..." People are so nuts. Thank you for bringing sanity!
You know what you don't see, Jordan taking off plays, complaining to the refs, leaving his teammates under manned.
Get em. The NBA has just really never been the same since Jordan retired. And you ever notice any time they ever compare a new player to somebody it's Jordan and they never say this guy's the next LeBron James
Modern NBA is a complete joke and it's fans have grown up on crap basketball and rules. Assists are the biggest joke. Change the rules to help the failing league.
Assist and the 3pt line was made for white players that was to weak to compete with black players... You have to let them win at something😂😂
Great Job Dude!! You really went in depth about MJ'S steals and thanks for showing us Proof of LeBron's hyped up assists not just accusing LeBron but showing Footage.😂😂
Everything they try to bring up about Jordan is really just projection from LeBum’s career. Weak era. Inflated stats. The league having special rules for him and doing everything they can to assist him in winning.
NBA is pushing for Leblame to be the GOAT so that more people watch
Omg lebron got credited assists for those? No wonder Tom Haberstroh didn’t pursue the John Stockton stats juicing.
YOU sir, are a LEGEND for this.
Klutch Sports and the LeBozo fans are in their final form of desperation.
If Haberstroh sees a deflection that might've been Jordan's, he doesn't know if Jordan is credited with the steal or not.. The announcer usually doesn't announce that.. That's why Haberstroh needed to count all the live ball turnovers in the game himself, and then claim that Jordan's reported steals were more than the live-ball turnovers - that's the only way to know that some of Jordan's steals were fraudulent.
Accordingly, all Haberstroh did was under-count the total live-ball turnovers as he's watching the game - just skip one or two here and there - and then Jordan's steals will be more than the live-ball turnovers, so Haberstroh can claim Jordan's steals are overstated... And no one can verify Haberstroh's count of the live-ball turnovers because he got the VHS from a guy in Latvia and none of the games are on youtube.. literally.
That's the whole fraud.. And history shows that the "normal" home inflation for players in prior eras was due to tougher road conditions and MUCH worse road records, while the one-offs of massive inflation for 88' MJ, 90' Hakeem and 86' Robertson is explained by any number of factors such as personal issues that affected home and road performance in that particular year.
They should not be talking about inflated stats for Jordan when it comes to defending Lebron 😂.
Rebounds inflated, he barely passed Jordan in total offensive rebounds recently and has averaged less per game for their careers, quite common to see his teammates clear out just to let him get the defensive board with no struggle or tip it to him and it counts as a lebron board.
Assists inflated, the way they count assists now is so loose, players can take multiple dribbles and it’s still counted as an assist so many examples of lebron getting assists this way.
Points inflated, this is mostly due to his era, but how many times do we see lebron drive to the basket with no contact at the rim? no 3 second call or a enforcer bigman in the paint and a defender handchecking him on the perimeter makes it incredibly easy for him to drive into empty lanes to the basket and even then if you touch him it’s a foul and free throws at the line. add on top of that how he scores most of his baskets at the rim efficiently around 60% because of this, even though his percentages from 3 feet away from the basket are below average 37%, and of course travelling calls not called on him and the overall looseness that rule has nowadays.
SLUTS sports may erase the entire stats of Jordan but they would NEVER erase the EXPERIENCE OF SEEING HOW GREAT HE PLAYED THE GAME. Reason why AI, BARKLEY, Vince Carter, Steve Nash, John Stockton and the likes were all arguably better than LeFraud.
The only stat that can't be manipulated is the eye test. I've seen them both play live throughout their careers. Jordan is by far the superior player!
When lebum runs to the rim everyone moves out the way... When Jordan when to the rim everyone was trying to block him or knock him out. Yes it's a big difference😂
The answer to Haberstrow's question is NO
Man, these guys will stop at nothing to discredit MJ lol. What's next? Did MJ actually win 6 championships?
Kutch is like cancerous tissue on the league and the game of basketball per se.
Thank You glad someone finally says it.. I was questioning how assists was being checked off when someone gets the ball off a pass dribbles and moves around makes the shot and that player gets a assists.. makes NO sense. Seems the NBA changed that to help make players look better than they are. I grew up if you Bounce the ball, or make a move and score that is NOT a assist...
The assist is the most fraudulent stat in basketball.
The depths they’re willing to go for LeBron being the “greatest” is crazy lol
Next they will attack Stockton and Magic Johnson’s assist numbers. Not surprising they had Stockton in article he criticized Lebron while ago.
Yeah john got that on lock!!
The moment it comes from Klutch sports or Nick Wrights mouth you just ignore it. Like someone telling you the earth is flat really
I can't believe we're actually at a point where we're grasping at any little thing we possibly can to discredit Jordan that we're suddenly acting like players don't play better at home than on the road and this hasn't happened for the entirety of sports history.
As much jealousy as the rest of the league had for 23 you don't think players would have called this ish out in real time? Especially when he was the hyped rookie.
Assists have been subjective for a while now.
I have 5 of the 6 games that Haberstoh allegedly watched and took the stats from. I cannot wait to watch them and prove him wrong!
Brons rebounds and assists are at least 20% undeserved stats for his career
Yes, my thoughts exactly. Until all of these games are available to the public....this shouldnt even be a story. The only reason it blew up is because of all of the Lebron fan boys running with this BS story. Make ALL of those Bulls home games available and if that happens, I encourage Lebron fans to watch those games. Even if the stats were inflated, after watching those games, most of yall will jump off of that LeBron train real quick and you will see what REAL GREATNESS is!!
All the while MJ is silent on this mess and enjoying life.
Yeah. Like when Bron beat the Warriors and Jordan Okay'ed the Last Dance. In which MJ sucks himself off..
Bron’s assists are insanely inflated
Provide evidence. Like how they just proved MJ received stats for things he didn't do..
How is this in any way new? They have been padding Brons assist stats for years.
Assist Jordan era: Ball leaves hand goes to shooter, shooter has
Excellent material. Thanks man. You are very systematic in disasembling those crappy agendas against MJ
Thank you for showing light and making the roaches scatter. I humbly salute your unwavering spirit that is dedicated to truth, not obfuscation!
The funniest thing about everything is Lebron James is obsessed with Jordan and Jordan couldn’t give two shits about Lebron James and that’s what’s killing him,it’s just like his daddy issues on desplay for the world to see
The funny thing is Jordan had only 23 less steals and 6 less blocks with an almost identical discrepancy the year prior. Yet, Jordan didn’t crack the top 5 in DPOY voting, nor make any All-Defensive team that year. The writer brings up MJ being irked that Michael Cooper won the DPOY while only averaging 1.0 spg and 0.5 bpg, yet leaves out the context as to why MJ wasn’t in the conversation for the DPOY that year (hint: the Bulls 40-42 record and 10th ranked defense had a lot to do with it). Historical context has never been Klutch Sports strong suit.
Lol they don’t understand the can of worms they opened with this…..
Longley, Kukoc and Harper all wore signature 23s.... influence at its finest
I have two games from that list: January 16 and March 18.
I also have home games from
Dec 12 and 17,
Jan 30, Feb 23 and 26,
March 10. It is not hard to fish various games from the past. I mean one has to have a major vendetta to come up with the plan to find some home games, watch them to write an article on how stat counters interpret the stats. As far as I understand stat keepers are NBA people and not some backyard friends and family of Bulls players. The whole notion of going back nearly 40 years in the past and counting the stats is idiotic at best. I mean, what, you wake up one morning and think to yourself, you know, I think MJ stats were miscounted in this particular season, I just feel it...
And FIRST like 😂😂. Love the content my dude!
Great video, mate. The games you refer to from 1988 that are from Reinis in Latvia are in much wider circulation than you'd think. I am in Australia and have > 40 games from MJ's 1988 season in my collection.
First you would have to answer me why would anyone inflate those numbers? The more they try to help lebron, the more pathetic they make him look.
😂😂😂 bro Uncut Hoops don't play no games. Bro within the past 24hrs. He has debunk the narratives. Like he always do.
Mafia > Klutch Sports
LeBalco is just a laughingstock at this point. He'll be on the PDiddy, Will Smith & DWade list soon that has ZERO to do with basketball. Then he'll finish on the AROD Barry Bonds list after that, pathetic.
That’s Good ! 😅
Here's a fun exercise. Watch several regular season Lakers' games from anytime in the past three years. Without looking at the box score, add up LeBron's shots, rebounds, & assists. Now compare those numbers to the official NBA box score and be prepared to laugh your ass off.
even his 40k POINTS is so so so questionable :)
Excellent vid. The fact that someone would bring this up right as Lebron is crying about never winning DPOY raises enough suspicion on its own. The fact that the guy used some not readily available tapes as the basis to generalize should have been called out by the media. However, we now know that most of LeMedia is "represented" by Klutch Sports aka Corrupt Sports.
If he did this in 1997, I can only imagine what he did in 1987-1988. Not to mention he scoring stats.
Even that one steal that you are saying is iffy,
I don't know the exact rules, but from what I see, the person that gains the possession gets credited for the steal, not the one who deflects the ball.
I do think it makes sense because you can deflect the ball and the ball can still ends up on the opponent's hand, in which case, it becomes complicated how to credit a steal.
And I've seen this not just for Jordan, but for everyone, even today.
Outta be a deflection stat as well.
Nice work Uncut hoops and I said this on X/Twitter when I first heard the claims...LeBron and Klutch really do NOT want to go down this road because LeBron's entire career has been inflated
never tug on Superman's cape.
Klutch Sports is pathetic, and the problem with this is it just shows that Lebron cares way too much about stats. The only stats MJ ever cared about was winning Championships.