Is Michael Jordan, Nikola Jokić, or another star the greatest pick in NBA history? | UNDISPUTED
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 ม.ค. 2025
- Skip Bayless, Paul Pierce and Keyshawn Johnson debate who the greatest pick in NBA history is with Michael Jordan and Nikola Jokić's names thrown in.
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Is Michael Jordan, Nikola Jokić, or another star the greatest pick in NBA history? | UNDISPUTED
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Keyshawn trying to talk basketball is like beetlejuice trying to do math
Or spelling
😭😭😭
Rachel or Brou talking football is worse to me.
That’s a good one 😂
Or Floyd mayweather trying to read
Poor Key...por que..?
Is this actually a debate??? Jokić was drafted in the 2nd round at pick 41 in 2014 , he has won 3 MVPs , 6x all NBA , FMVP , a 6x all star & HES ONLY BEEN IN THE LEAGUE 9 years that’s 1 mvp every 3 seasons.. BEST SLEEPER PICK OF ALL TIME
Plus brought Denver their only title
And his career is not over yet
@@Darksoldier888 exactly!!
@@SkoomeyGaming Sleeper yes.
Best pick. NO. Not close.
@@conduitofthegospeldarrellb9154 explain how..
Denver in the prime
Keyshawn trying to lecture Paul pierce about Nikola Jokic makes me want to rip my ears off
Is Keyshawn really this dumb? I always just figured he heeded his inner fanboy too much. But now I'm starting to wonder.
Not dumb. Dumb is person who compares players from different era and can not be held to the same standard. He just can't.
This era, ueah sure, he is killing it.
@@Lomno12No, its dumb. By every metric imaginable it’s dumb. Smh
And he’s just completely wrong. Jokic isn’t gonna guard Shaq OBVIOUSLY, but Shaq isn’t guarding Jokic either. Jokic will pull him out to the 3 point line in the pick and roll and annihilate him in the 2 man game. These delusional “analysts” think basketball is played one on one. It’s not.
@@0207xander Jokic could guard Shaq if he wasn't allowed to lower his shoulder. That's the primary reason that teams had to double is because the NBA didn't follow the rules for Shaq, who was not a good shooter otherwise. That in turn created free threes for the Lakers all the time. If you go back and look at the tape, the Lakers offense was often feed Shaq in the post and then put four guys on the three line. It created an open three on virtually every possession. The Lakers still weren't that good at making them, so a lot of fake fouls for Kobe and Shaq were called as well.
I can’t argue with MJ but the value for Jokic with the 41st pick in the second round is insane
Mj was 3rd, that’s not an underdog story, considering Hakeem was a deserving number 1 pick.
You can argue with mj, you simply choose not to.
@@reem9317no you can’t
Same here
@@chilldoc9638 yeah you can. Give your mouth a break.
Jokic would have caused big mismatches back in the day he would create so much space and would be wide open at 3 all the time because all those centers would be scared to come out there his playmaking would also cause huge mismatches and still would be able to score in the paint and with floaters jokic is the best draft pick ever at the 41st pick
I get second hand embarrassment listening to K Johnson 😂
Absolutely
Same 😂
like MJ said you are not alone
Every time I keep hoping he’ll get better but everyday it’s just horrible
Fr. It’s getting bad. I’d rather Drunken Sherm or CTE Irvin
Many NBA Executives would take Jokic over Shaq in any era 💯
Keyshawn sounds crazy. Jokic can compete with anyone.
To Keyshawn's point the center position is weak today. They're certainly not as dominant as they used to be. Though this might partially be due to the style of basketball we see today.
@jehushaphat Keyshawn hates Jokic because he is white and he owns the Lakers.
Jokic would be another Rick Smiths or Portland's Sabonis in the 90's
I think the dream would dominate jokic tbh🤷🏽♂️
@@blackcobra1981portland’s sabonis was borderline handicapped and a 31 year old rookie… he used to give it to david robinson before he came to the nba
Joker can play with anyone
Keyshawn is the worst pick to replace Shannon of all time
Bill Russell is easily the best pick of all time. 9 rings in his first 10 years
Joker is the best steal off all time tho
Jokic is the greatest steal of all time. I mean he’s on a top 10 all time trajectory(if all goes right), and got drafted with the 41st pick. They had a damn Taco Bell commercial playing when he was drafted. Jordan was drafted with the 3rd pick, Hakeem over MJ is obviously wrong but it isn’t as egregious as taking Sam Bowie over MJ. Another underrated one is Greg Oden over KD which was obviously a horrendous pick.
You’re doing the ‘worst’ picks of all time segment :)
hakeem over MJ wasnt really wrong. Hakeem was doing better when he hot Ralph Sampson with him.
nah he aint passsing steph. only has 1 ring never scored more then 28 ppg a season. Assist stats are subjektively given there is no two or three dribbles the stat counter decides
@@DD-rk6kn Did you just say bc he's never scored 28 ppg in a season so he can''t go past steph? Who cares. He just went 4 straight post seasons scoring over 28 a game. He scores more ppg in the playoffs than Curry. No he is not above Curry now, but to use not scoring above 28 ppg in the regular season as a reason he ain't passing steph makes no sense.
@@rlh12345 Jokic aint a good defender so his offense is gonna impact his legacy. So scoring is relevant it makes perfect sense. i like jokic but the glaze is crazy. He is right were giannis is right now. if he wins two more rings we can start discussing jokic as a top 10 player. his inside game is all time great but please dont come with efficiency he scores over 75% of his shoots inside the paint. Guards and wingers take more diffcult shoots from the perimeter so ofc efficiencies are lower
No he couldn't stop shaq but shaq wouldn't stop him either
I’d love to see the older centers try and cover Joker. They never had to cover guys in space or from 3. He would have created huge mismatches back in the day.
Honest question. Was Shaq a skilled player or was he a dominant player purely by his physicality?
Both, there have been a lot of really strong bigman that isn’t half as dominant
Keyshawn is a HOF hater of Jokic 🤣🤣
*white people 😂😂😂😂 he does the same thing with Luka lmaooo
He hates whited noyice how upset he gets when skip doesn’t like dak or when skip likes burrow keysgaun gets upset he only likes black players
@@realricky__factz
Lol makes him sick to his stomach that a yt boy is winning all mvps and not his brothas and lakers 😂😂😂😂
I understand they lost, but the way he spoke about Luka, you would think Luka is absolute dog water.
you know why
I agree with Paul
I lose braincells listening to keyshawn talk 😭
Then don't ever watch perkins talk
How could lose one if you got none?
Hey…. Shut up
Facts
I love your comment! Lol
Keyshawn hates Jokic cause he destroyed his beloved Lakers. Simple as that
I don’t get it, out of all the analysts they pick Keyshawn who is just terrible
Agree bro but let’s be honest almost all the comments on these videos who is everyone talking about? Keyshawn (for a bad reason) but that’s interactions for FS1 lol
Y’all running a hate campaign on K Johnson he ain’t been doing that bad have an original opinion
@@Tony-wj8hg It discredits the show though.
@@Kyngs_Legynds Lmao if there's a hate campaign on Key, he's the one financing it with his awful takes. He's the analyst equivalent of an NBA player that just throws up half-court bricks all day. And instead of telling him to take better shots, you're cheering him on saying, "well it could've went in."
@@degande-d1wits not just "awful takes"
His voice is annoying, he's whiny, he speak over people who have more credibility, he doesnt make sense, he contradicts himself, he plays favorites, he's not very intelligent, he doesn't add anything to the show.
I've never once listened to a Keyshawn take and thought "wow, I never thought of it like that...how insightful".
I literally fast forward when he speaking.
I miss Shannon on this show but it's still my favorite show on t.v ,First Take is my second big time facts 💯 👏
Jokic is the greatest pick
No Stephen Curry? 😮
Keyshawn is just terrible
Yeah he sucks
@@michael7054 He hates Jokic because he is white and he is great
Not as bad as perkins
We can only hope that the producers instruct him to be that way and that it's not his choice...
He shouldn't be allowed to speak about basketball
i got one. my dude RODMAN pick #27 in 1986. Steal !!
Yes going from 41 to a three time mvp makes u the best pick ever
Jokic could not play with Shaq?! 😂 He would not be able to guard Shaq for sure, but common, Shaq was throwing bricks from 3ft distance! Jokic would have triple double with Shaq also, the damage would be huge 100%
Jokic already got 3mvps and Kobe got 1.. 13th is not 41st
People who get picked 41st dont even make the league half the time
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Every time Key talks hoops, a viewer loses 5 brain cells.
He’s terrible at all topics he picked saints to make super bowl he loves dak because dak is more black than white he picked ravens to make super bowl because Lamar is black
jokic is easily the most dominant big man ever. such nostalgia bias lol. every gm today would rather have a prime joker than shaq. just ask em. shaq can't pass, shoot free throws or shoot threes. 3 mvps in 4 years with the league being more talented offensively than ever before. these are experts talking?
Hakeem over Jokic right now
Skip "I was there" Bayless 🤣🤣
Nikola jokic Top NBA Draft Pick 41 Michael Jordan’s 👀👍🏿👍🏿
P’s suit game is nice
Yes if I was an exec I would hands down pick Jokic over Shaq. SHAQ DOES NOT KNOW HOW TO SHOOT OR PASS!
He was a good passer later in his career.
@@benpowell4733 How? He never averaged more than 2.5 assist in his career.
Keyshawn brain the size of a sugar ant
Fax 😂😂😂
Don’t disrespect ants like that
LMAO
At least he's set for life financially 😂
😂😂😂😂
Key keeping it 💯
To think Jokic cannot play « with them dudes » is actually crazy to me
Definitely can play with russell. Shaq wilt kareem idk. Duncan(who is a center he just got drafted to a team with David robinson) he can definitely play with Duncan too. Those top 3 though
He doesn't know basketball. Forgive him.
@@macalloway1 He could definitely play with all three. Joker has the same skill set as Bill Walton and Walton swept Kareem in '77. He has the same skill set as Hakeem and Hakeem swept Shaq in the Finals.
imagine Shaq out there past the three point line having to pick up Jokic. when Joker can break his ankles 😂
It's such a stupid phrasing, "can't play with them." If the sport is basketball then Jokic can play. Would he have to adapt his game? Yes. Would a lot depend on the rules? Yes. He's certainly a lot smarter than Shaq and could outwit him out there. He's not going to get into a wresting match with him.
12:20 kobe would not of been kobe unless he got drafted to the lakers... getting those 3 early championships with shaq made a huge difference in his career... and being able to be in La where free agents tend to go... if he got drafted to like okc who know if kobe would be the kobe we know today
Jokic as a second round pick has been the best value right now he is looking like a Tom Brady of the NBA
Ant man just beat Jokic wym looking like tom Brady Jokic got one ring there are no dynasty
@Antwan-kd8qg the Twolves had a superior team. Jokic did his part the rest of the team sucked.
@@Antwan-kd8qgjokic is not retired
I would say Joker, Giannis, Manu and Draymond, best value from draft. The far the pick is from the #1 the greatness is way less expected
Hate on Skip as much as u want, this man knows stats and history of the game.
There is simply no one we can compare him to. Jokic simply does things Jokic does. Most efficient 3pt shooter so far. It's ridiculous.
get keyshawn out of here bro.
He is definitely in the conversation. And do me one more thing......compare him to every other 41st pick that ever existed and get back to me
That is true. We can also compare jordan to every other 3rd pick. Then we have to somehow compare jordan and Jokic. Jokic at 41 is probably a bigger deal in terms of the pick position.
@@patinho5589And that's Paul Pierce's point
@@patinho5589obviously
Without a doubt best value ever at 41 overall. And still has plenty of time, depending on how long he want to stay away from home.
I'm in shambles saying this, worried for my mental fortitude, but i gotta say for the first time in my life... I agree with PP
Key gets on my damn nerves.
P Pierce is excellent on this panel.
8:33 funny how skip's 'I was right in the middle of this" means he just watched it on a tv screen like everyone else lol
LOL facts.
Nah tbf Skip was a reporter at the time
@@nathanclements6635 yes and he watched it on a tv screen like everyone else
@@nathanclements6635And what do you think reporters do?
Keyshawn don’t never need to talk ball again he said jokic not in the conversation with them is crazy
Kick keyshawn out and just have paul and skip bro PLEASE 😭🙏
I would agree but you can tell paul and key don't really get along, it wouldn't be as interesting without them going at it sometimes and I bet it will get more and more readily apparent as time goes on. key is annoying, gotta have a annoying guy on the show
@@DanielCombs-qf8iu False they’re childhood friends. Just have alot of disagreements.
@@dj10671 yeah that is my point brother. more interesting with a lot of disagreements, even better they were childhood friends as you claim. gotta love it
@@DanielCombs-qf8iu right on !
@@dj10671 childhood was a long time ago for these two my friend
Keyshawn has perfected the confused look
Jokić so great they still don't know how to say his name right 🤦
If “redraft the class with KOBE BRYANT in it he would be #1.”
Keys response: “uhhh maybe” tf u talkin bout maybe 😂😂
Paul Pierce always makes good points keep him on full time
Whenever Keyshawn speaks I foward
Keyshawn really struggles with basketball analysis you can tell he only can contribute on the surface level
He struggles with football also
Yea. So often it's....'I don't know' from him. He just sets the bar high for players that he's not a fan of
I hate when reporters always say "I was there," as if reporting put them into the action.
Keyshawn might be the worst thing that happen in TV history! Hands down
Im with Key.
I’d take Jokić over Shaq..sorry.. YES Shaq will break the backboard and dunk on their head but that’s not what I’m going for.. I’m going for the BEST ALL AROUND and if my 5 can give me 28/14/8 my PG/SG can average around 5-6 a game and my SF averaging around 4-6 I’m good with that , that’s good ball movement and looking for the best possible shot
Why would you want anyone starting to average under 10? Unless they grabbing 20 rebounds that's crazy
@@Pablo-uq6tr I said those numbers as in assists.. not points
@@Pablo-uq6tr as in my PG/SG to average 5-6 assists per game , my SF to average 4-6 assists per game and I’m not saying that’s just for my starters either everyone is getting involved
Replace Jamal Murray with Kobe or D Wade. They would run off championships every year
Its actually pointless for centers to be shooting 3s because then someone else has to do there job of getting the rebound.
New rule mvp must also make 1st or second team defense this is getting out of hand
Karl Malone being picked at the 13th pick is very ironic
I would say Magic because he came right in and won
All of the others it took them a while
Leave it to the professional Football player to tell the Professional NBA player he’s wrong 🤣🤣🤣
Key was stuck when Paul said Karl Malone was also a 13th pick lol that pause was classic
As I was reading this comment Paul named drop Carl and Kay looked shocked lol not his best take,let’s see how he does with football. Love Skip he’s awesome and factual and he loves LeBron 😅
I died bruh 😂
Wow Paul pierce nailed it…. I’m shocked
Skip comes so much more prepared with history, how to structure an argument then Key “when you look at it” Johnson will do
Get Keyshawn out of there
Jokic should have 4 stright mvps. He is in the convo.
Nah he's the best steal of the draft I would love to see him play against Shaq Ewing Dream Duncan Kareem
Hed play well against them. Jokic is a big boy.
Ewing isn’t on jokers level
If not for Kendrick Perkins pulling the race card, he would have 4 MVPs
@@keithwatson3893why everyone forgets when Shaq started winning the center position sucked.
Tracy McGrady would of been the goat if he wasn’t banged up
Jokic helluva shout with the accolades to prove it. Definitely will be a top 5 center after his career is over. Special player!
I can't with Key. Dude should sit out BBall convos
Paul DOES have a point joker may not be a offensive juggernaut like prime shaq was… but his shooting and his assists and free throws makes up for what shaq lacks…
Jokic is far more an offensive juggernaut than Shaq. Shaq is bigger and stronger.
Michael, Magic, and Bird. Then everybody else.
Jokic is definitely the best draft pick of all time. 2nd round literally the last pick. To turn into a champ and 3 time MVP. There's no debate. He's not the greatest player, but pick. Most definitely
Bro said he don't give no damn about 3 MVP'S 💀
No surprise from Skip. Joker is a 3 time MVP. No one saw this. I would also put Giannis.
Giannis is a great answer too
You can’t go by the numbers. Look at the era. Jokic won’t do nothing close against shaq!!!!!!
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Cuz he shoots threes??? Why do people act like 3s are like field goals in football. Its part of the game.
A center being able to do it, though, is like seeing an offensive lineman being able to kick 60-yard FGs. It's just a freak of nature thing. Shaq couldn't shoot mid-range jumpers to save his life, let alone threes. Lol.
@TechGuy774 no it's like an offensive lineman scoring a touchdown. Shootings threes isn't a separate part of the game. It's an arbitrary line that represents more points. Players before the 3 point line was implemented would shoot from that distance.
@@robp7438 It's actually pretty easy for an o-lineman to score a TD (particularly if they're being handed the ball in the backfield at the goal line). Threes are a lot harder for a center to make, historically.
@@NothingElseMatters777you don’t know football
@@danielbattle7620 Yes I do. I've been watching my entire life. If you don't think that it's easier for a 280-300 lb. o-lineman to score from the 1 yard line than a 220 lb. RB - I don't know what else I can say to help you out there.
The question is wrong. The question should be most valuable. But still. He lifted the league.
He’s in the debate. To answer the question Paul is right
Paul is 1000 % correct
Joker is actually a good answer.
Keyshawn living in the 80s. Jokic cooking everyone except maybe shaq
Jordan is the greatest pick in “NBA” history… he did more for the whole league than the others mentioned even did for their teams
True, but he also had some all time great teamates.
@@salezvrI think what he meant was his impact on the league and his high level play. That had nothing to do with his teammates.
😂 LeBron James, no comparison. #1 pick, didn't go to college, and from day 1 to date at the highest level. Jordan pick #3
@@Eric-hg5hf lebron couldn’t even bring the team that drafted him more than one ring and he bounced on them soon as the going got tough lebron isn’t even top 10 in this discussion… longevity stats don’t help in this one
Bill Russell did way more than Jordan, he even won as coach. Over 10 rings. And he was humble.
Keyshawn racist against every international player
Yo why yall killing Key like this? 😂😂😂
Was Skip at every sporting event known to man😆😆
Key mad cause joker owns Lebalco 😂
No it’s because he’s whitev
Shaq himself says he couldnt guard joker, but keyshawn knows better
Teaching Time:
Scott Pippen: Drafted 5th overall 1987 out of D2 Central Arkansas. 6 rings - 8 time All Defensive 1st Team - 50 greatest NBA players - This was the greatest draft in NBA history, done by Jerry Krause....
Only way jokic gets guys like Keyshawn’s respect is if he changes his daddy to a black man. Could win 5more rings and they’ll still say he wasn’t HIM
Paul Pierce knows basketball.
Best steal draft: Jokic no debate
Best 1st overall Draft: LeBron no debate
Best Draft with the most impacted: MJ no debate
Best 1st overall is Kareem no debate at all.
@@gandalftheghetto1172 i would agree if magic was 2nd overall
@@gandalftheghetto1172its Lebron. Dead it with the Kareem take brother! 😂😂😂 If Lebron is 2nd greatest of all-time on most peoples list, then why would Kareem be the greatest #1 pick of all-time?
Jordan made it possible for all these dudes to get paid! He didn’t lift a franchise he lifted a league! Literally.
Greatest NBA "picks" per value for their OG team.
1. Joker (41)
2. Kobe (technically for hornets, but ever played for them so it counts) (13)
3. Manu (57)
4. MJ (3)
5. Steph curry (7)
6. Bird (6)
7. Draymond green (27)
8. Tony Parker (28)
9. Giannis (13)
10. Karl Malone (13)
You have Giannis too low
Kawhi?
To think bird fell to 6 after his college career is crazy
@@dirkfade113 that's not what happened, Red auerbach took advantage of obscure rule, no one knew that Bird was eligible for the 78 draft except...Red.
Giannis was 15th round