Using socket extensions to make an axle shaft - will it work?
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In this video: garage tools were never meant to be used this way, however this does seem like a legitimate test of their actual durability.
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The best part is when he realizes his brake pads are made of wood from another video
You moron. You spoiled the video. As it's top comment it always shows up. Next time mark with spoiler.
His face say all🤣
Every thing went wrong so fast. "Look at that everything is just fine" he said, shortly before it all went wrong.
lmao
14:50 🤨
15:08 😮
As a Mechanic myself, I always wondered how these would do as half shafts. Thanks to you guys, now I know!
Im not one but always thought about using one as a driveshaft on a go kart lol
@@ras4782 You know, they may do fine on a Go Kart. The tires are a lot smaller on Go Karts as you know of. It doesn't hurt to give it a try.
@@ras4782 do it and let us know!
They need to do 3/4 or 1inch drive tools and probably would last for a while.
As a fellow mechanic I can assure you they do a lot of things we always wanted to try like the wooden clutch video was something I always thought of.
When you think your socket extension CV shafts are overheating because you forgot to grease them but it's actually the wooden break pads you installed in a previous backyard experiment. Wonderful work guys
😂
My friend built a hot rod in the '70s and used the ball style "impact" U joint to connect his steering column to the steering box. It worked great for that but this goes way beyond the torque capacity of these. Maybe bump it up to 1 " drive
Looks like koken makes some 1" universal adapters. At $130 each
but then it would exceed the cost of replacing the part and defeat the purpose. In a pinch this could get you around I guess
@@nickoloes At that price you might as well buy a new real axle.
@@KekusMagnus If you just happened to have a welder handy. I once had an (rear) axle shear and lost the wheel and drum. Recovered the wheel and pulled my toolbox out of the trunk along with, you guessed it, a spare axle. Fixed it right on the side of the road and was on my way in 30 minutes.
I don''t think this was about cost efficiency because then you'd have to account for manhours fitting and welding the parts together on top of the redos. This was simply will it work or not. I haven't seen a whole lot here in Garage 54 involving economical ways of doing things, the cobbling is usually way more expensive than doing it "normal" But normal isn't what this channel's about, LOL!
would love to see a car with all your modifications goto a inspection center just to see their faces XD
wood breaks, swivel uni joints, concrete propshaft... that would be a good one!
Yeeees
It would be interesting to see if 3/4, or even 1" sockets would handle the load ok.
And also impact drivers universals and extensions
1 inch one might hold up but it would need a proper CV joint at least up front. My honda axles were hollow which reminds me of RWD
@@mike289homebuilt5 yes, the standard uni joints wouldn't have a chance.
I can't believe that they lasted past the first time they let out the clutch in my experience they break if you look at them the wrong way but still awesome video thanks guys keep up the awesome work
Welding hardened steel is just asking for it to break, if you heat-treated them to soften them up first (heat 'til red, then allow to cool slowly), they'd probably last longer and be less prone to shattering, but being chrome-vanadium tool steel they'd probably still behave weirdly...
"chrome-vanadium" yeah that's one hell of an assumption....
"oh were still using wooden brakes?" lmao didnt think i would here that today 🤣
The most Russian thing on the internet :D
Im actually really impressed and surprised at the success... Imagine some 3/4 or 1 inch extensions and swivels
Old banger racing trick I used for prop shafts on rear wheel drives was to make one from two pieces of box section steel that slide inside each other so when the car got shorter from damage the box slid inside each other may help for any further projects 🤷🏻♂️
Hahaha - I remember them doing that at Arena Essex - Ingenious!
That’s pretty brilliant! Did they rattle like crazy or was the fit pretty tight?
They just made one hell of a impact
As a mechanic myself XD, I would had used a 3/4 swivel and extention!
also i imagine impact extensions would work better
I was thinking the same, a 3/4 or 1" would be way stronger
I would love to see these on the test track, a top speed run
One breaks, and your spinning out o bet.
That was cool. I've always been fascinated by the thought of using something like that to make an axle and it would probably work quite well for something lighter like a gocart with suspension on it where the axles only have to move up and down for bumps and stuff. Either way that idea used to entertain my mind especially as a kid. Awesome video G54. 🤘🤘👍👍
the lesson is once the "confidence kicks in,it goes BOOM".Remember this strategy.
You guys do stuff that I always wanted to try but wasn't able
Thanks fellas 👌
G'day Garage54 & BMI,
"I smell burning wood, are we running something wooden?"
"Yeah the Brakes"
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I suffer from Depression but no matter how Bad or Stressful a day is you guys make me laugh, so glad I found your channel.
At my friends farm, one of her dads old lawn tractors had one of the squared end ones welded in place for a busted tie rod end. Small tractor, but it seemed to have been there for many many years.
This should be a commercial for the universal swivel adapters. I know which ones i am getting for now on.
it has no plunge (no in and out movement ) it would work, with stronger universal joint .👍
Yea thatd be a normal axle..
"Why are the brakes so bad and why does it smell like wood?", "Because the brake pads are wood" hahahahahahaha
Ive always taught about this, never taught id see it be done, well done lads, dont know why yiur channel isnt huge, i lovw your crazy videos
If you had some square tube of two sizes the could slip inside of each other. That might help with long-term use
this is just good entertainment down to earth clean fun takes me back in time growing up and trying things to have fun. kudos guys.
Awesome video. Love it. Thanks for sharing.
Try a 3/4 drive or 1inch drive impact universal joint I bet that would hold up well.
Thanks for sharing
These videos are getting out of hand.....AND I LOVE IT!
you could get two deep hex sockets, install them facing each other with a long hex key of the proper size locking them together with a bit of grease. that way it works like a spline and it allows the whole thing to contract or expand just enough
Good ole garage 54 answering the questions I will never ask
Always supporting keep the amazing good ideas up guys thanks great video like always 👏
I'm impressed with how long they did hold
The jerking of the steering wheel when turning is because universal joints are not constant velocity (CV) joints. That means that when the wheel is turned and the joints are on a strong angle, the joint speeds up and slows down as it spins because of the angle it is operating at. If the 2 joints on either end of the shaft are not at the same angle (which they won’t be if the wheel is turned) then the 2 joints will not be synchronized, and you’ll get a jerking sensation. That’s why universal joints are only used for drive shafts between the transmission/transfer case and differentials, or on rear wheels that don’t steer, but not on front drive axles (except on straight axles where they only have to deal with the steering angle)
I could see this potentially working on a shaft driven motorcycle, like a BMW. Some of those have pretty thin driveshafts. I would try on an old R50 or R60 (either /2 or /5). The /5 variants are still fairly abundant, actual parts are RELATIVELY easy to access, and they are cheap. The /2 is dealing with the hyperinflation of the classic vehicle market, but a beat up one can be had for not too much. Plus, they are not so damned powerful that you need a super duty drive train.
At 10:30 you can see when the pin fell out just before he gives it gas very cool great video
Looks like the front right wheel is wobbling left and right, not just a little bit :)
At least you guys shoud use wheels on the front axle that are not TOTALLY destroyed :)
Tack welds for dramatic effect,well done.😮
Those extensions are pretty solid since the square didn't rip off... Also could have added 2 cardan joints at each end, like old universal joints use to have.
I LOVE YOU GUYS AND THE CRAZY IDEAS YOU HAVE GOOD LUCK
I really enjoyed watching you bust a ball.
That bent wheel on the long shaft side probably isn't helping the vibration... 😅
Fun as always, thank you.
😂😂😂 wheel like an egg
Ive had a set of those uv style ones and never used em once. Always use the ball joint ones..
Bro been waiting for something like this
Used them on a go kart but we made a slip yoke and it worked for years
interesting idea testing strength of those tools. maybe 3/4 would have held up better just saying. love the videos.
Looks like the pins in the uni popped out on one side, maybe a couple hose clamps would have helped hold them in🤷♂️
Or tack weld the pins in place
It's tool steel, better to fasten mechanically. Welding is fun but not always the answer.
When you go 20 stack that's when you know you've done it right 🤣🐶🖤 also tic welding make a world difference ☺️
the buck
le in that front wheel is hilarious
Nice experiment 👍
I wonder how the pin/block joint setup would have help up if they welded around the whole joint instead of spot welds plus put a tack on the pins holding the joints since it looks like it failed because it was able to back out.
Good advert for the ball based tools.
The wooden brakes twist cracked me up
Me too):)
You guys are freaking hilarious I love it and I was wondering why the brakes were so bad oh that’s right we could still got wooden brakes lol oh I love watching your guises stuff man you guys are so funny
from personal experience these extensinons and wowwble sockets work great as axle shafts and drivelines(for a custom 4wd compact tractor at least)
im using 1/2 in drive swivel and extensions though(impact rated)
Yeah this sounds like a great idea
I'm curious what the 1" extentions would do
I love how badly the passenger front wheel wobbles :D
i wonder if the square joints would have done any better with lubrication as far as binding goes.
The Citroën Traction Avant had a fouble u joint at the weel side and a single u joint at the gearbox. And that worked just fine in 1934.
Those are gonna snap as soon as you hit the gas pedal and I’m willing to bet they break right at the swivel joint pin
Or not..
@@thehulkamaniabrother2.089 Letting out the clutch is not the same as hitting the gas as soon as he hit the gas or put it in second gear putting more of a load on it it’s snapped right at the swivel joint pin just like I said so or yes!
@@russell11fitzgerald I bet it would have worked if you built it instead right lol?🧞♀️👹
@@thehulkamaniabrother2.089 I love your passive aggressiveness maybe it would’ve been better if you build it It doesn’t matter who built it using those joints it was sure to snap under load no matter what even if you build it keyboard warrior
@@russell11fitzgerald Fuck the Police!
Brilliant!!
Good idea
Problem was the offset axis used in the universal joint, that's why you get the binding. You have to use a impact socket
5:50 you can see where it broke away from the tac weld. Honestly not a horrible idea and would work well for in a pinch move around a parking lot deal. You just can't lay a few weld into those tools it'll be a hot knife through butter.
Cv joints like this makes a constant speed oscillate in speed on the output and it's worse the sharper angel they are bendt at which is probably why you feel like the wheels were “tugging” from time to time
I saw that pin on that one you should have put a tack on it or something I have used them with impacts and the pin wants to fly out some electrical tape helps for an impact but I assume that will spin faster
I never thought this would work 🤣
doesnt take much to snap those. even 1st gear in an old lada is going to produce hundreds of pounds of torque between first gear and the final drive to the front wheels.
@Garage 54 I knew the ball joint would work, it's similar to the axles on a RC 10T stadium truck from Team Associated. Maybe you could take some ideas from the rc car world?
rc cars are scale models of real cars?
How is it going to slide in and out as you go over bumps something is going to break immediately
Maybe try welding with dissimilar rods. Might weld a bit better because they are probably chrome vanadium. Or find something with high chrome content.
6:00 Every time you talk about how something works fine... it breaks... rules of life!
There is a company called RVS who drive around with a car with no engine oil at all. They say that after their RVS engine management oil additive the engine would work even without oil. You guys could try it out!
Would be cool testing different brands of tools.
Keep making these awesome projects, love the videos, inquiring minds want to know whats next!!! The best part is when you realized that it was still on wooden brakes!!
Good vibrations ahead😎🤙
I feel like this is how testing front wheel drive went the first time
Make it out of 1" extensions
I have snaped a few
Had a impact on 1 did just fine lol
If you took some D stock for a steering column and put a short section in one one of the sides and use a shorter extension, it would slide in and out and you wouldn't have the breakage
Basically a mini yoke. But theses transmission and hubs have a lot of axle play so it's not needed.
@@AndyKPOV usually the tripod joint on the inner axle on these CV shafts telescopes in and out 2-3 inches, allowing for the suspension travel. But they eliminated that and welded the socket directly to the end of the transmission stub shaft
Try to make supercharger or turbo form wood or any scrap material you have
Leaf blower for win:):)
That thing needs some motor mounts lol 😂
I wanted to do this for a go-kart as a kid just never had the money
Seen them used for steering column connection. Never a cv joint.
I was wondering from the beginning if they lubed the universal. I guess they did.
what about steering rack end axle shafts
You should maybe build a scale version of the second one and see how it fairs
I'd like to see some makeshift steering angle reducer so your steering is 1:1 ratio.
I guess in an apocalyptic situation this would be a last resort attempt to get around!
👋🤣👍I Lmfao! When I read the intro!! Really!! Now that’s freaking hilarious! What they’ll think of next?!👌😂👉♥️
Purchase swivel ball joints sockets from tool-truck/industrial supplier with lifetime warranty, when it inevitably breaks just warranty it for a new one
I'd like to see y'all do axles kind of like how the old RC cars had ...where at the wheel it was a cup with two slits 180° from each other and the axle has sort of a ball on the end with a t bar through it and it slid into the cup... Just look up older standard nitro RC car axles and look at how they are designed...
I wonder if normal size axles made in this manner would work in a car...???...
Cool! Next time 1/2"? 🤔
The whole thing is depending on puny 1/4" (at best) U-joint pins. Senseless endeavor.
Yall need to test different brands of tools like PF does for his Channel.
Tig welding would do thing, plus you need to weld whole thing
They should try everything they have ever done , to one special Lada
That knocking was the engine bouncing up and down.
I don't think a Lada has enough torque to break them 🤣
The engine itself does not, maybe 100 to 150Nm, a 1/2 drive easily transfers that.
But after gearbox and differential reduction, it will be 12-16 times the torque in 1st gear!