Aluminum vs. copper brake pads - which are better?

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  • @GaisaSanktejo
    @GaisaSanktejo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    I suggest redoing the test after either replacing or milling the surfaces of those copper pads then re-turning the rotors to clean them properly, since the copper pads appear to be contaminated by residue aluminium from the aluminium test and gave you poor results

    • @vincentrobinette1507
      @vincentrobinette1507 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'm glad I read this reply: I was about to make the same comment about the copper pads looking like they rubbed residual aluminum out of the rotors.

    • @yassouaboudjatit4975
      @yassouaboudjatit4975 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I would radher see it on an abs vehicle

    • @heyitMeMcFlyunfortunately
      @heyitMeMcFlyunfortunately 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      they are
      not doing
      real
      tests
      they spend
      a lot of
      time to
      make these
      videos
      'proper' tests
      would include
      monitors hooked
      up to measure
      temperatures
      and wear
      and braking
      distances
      your idea
      would add
      nothing to
      the way they
      do their
      tests

    • @bugzbunny69
      @bugzbunny69 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@heyitMeMcFlyunfortunately So, yeah it doesn't have to be scientific but shouldn't be stupid poor either.

    • @Dzejk86
      @Dzejk86 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@heyitMeMcFlyunfortunately
      ok
      thank you
      for your
      kind words
      dear friend

  • @demoderby181
    @demoderby181 2 ปีที่แล้ว +138

    You should also try brass pads. That’s what we use on our ATVs because they’re really durable and rocks and mud don’t eat them up like conventional pads do.

    • @eightosaurusspelunk1598
      @eightosaurusspelunk1598 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's interesting. Do you make them yourself from blanks of brass or what?

    • @demoderby181
      @demoderby181 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@eightosaurusspelunk1598 yes. We remove the original pad material and rivet on the brass. They work really good.

    • @-Jethro-
      @-Jethro- 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Are they noisy? How do they perform?

    • @demoderby181
      @demoderby181 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      They perform very good. Not noisy at all. Just like a regular pad but don’t get eaten up like regular pads do in mud/dirt.

    • @jwalster9412
      @jwalster9412 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      The issue it that's cars are alot heavier, so the brakes would probably over heat, fade, and with the being repeated alot the pads would wear down very fast.

  • @scott8919
    @scott8919 2 ปีที่แล้ว +107

    Try the aluminum pads with a car that has ABS. I wonder how well the system would work with pads so sensitive.

    • @raven4k998
      @raven4k998 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      what about gold brake pads?🤣🤣🤣

    • @survidmt
      @survidmt 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Great thought scott

  • @Krishna-Govender
    @Krishna-Govender 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Copper work hardens when force is applied and softens when its heated. In this case both were happening repeatedly, so a graph of the results would have been interesting.

    • @Norwegian_Bastard
      @Norwegian_Bastard 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      am i remembering correctly thay copper gets a h igher coefficent of friction the hotter it gets to a certain point? cinter clutches and racing brakes have copper and stuff like that in em if i remeber correctly, and they all need abuse to work correctly.

  • @teardowndan5364
    @teardowndan5364 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Once you brake hard enough to lock up the wheels, your brake pads no longer have any influence on stopping distance and threshold braking (not locking up) gives you better distance than locking wheels while also sparing the very high tire wear.

    • @blahorgaslisk7763
      @blahorgaslisk7763 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Threshold braking give shorter stopping distance on tarmac and regular roads. On gravel locking the wheels actually is likely to result in shorter stopping distance. This is because the gravel builds up in front of the locked wheel increasing the friction over what is possible for a rolling wheel. Snow can act the same way while on tarmac, concrete or any other hard surface locked wheels means a longer stopping distance.
      But locking the wheels always means you are giving up any pretense to control the direction the car travels in. So ABS or threshold braking if you don't have ABS is almost always preferable even if the stopping distance can get slightly longer on gravel.
      Oh and threshold braking is never as good as ABS. Never! Neither in allowing you to retain control or in getting the shortest possible stopping distance. Well retaining control isn't entirely true. Locking the breaks can allow you to perform maneuvers you can't otherwise do. But it takes skills most people don't have and in a panic situation I'd much rather have a vehicle that steer better.

    • @tiagobelo4965
      @tiagobelo4965 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@blahorgaslisk7763 according to the folks at team o'neil, it still works well on gravel (I'll drop the link at the bottom)
      likewise, threshold braking can outperform ABS, but it's more a question of how good your abs is (without even considering loose surfaces)
      here's the video btw:
      th-cam.com/video/TfekZcWa6D8/w-d-xo.html

    • @DarkLinkAD
      @DarkLinkAD 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      All my FWDs get skinny mud tires for snow, It gives me the grip to pull out when the rear whips arround. Stuipid amount of control with those.

    • @blahorgaslisk7763
      @blahorgaslisk7763 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tiagobelo4965 I counter with Engineering Explained and a video about why it's impossible for a human to outbreak a proper ABS system...
      th-cam.com/video/G-GEUkiMuLk/w-d-xo.html
      It's not the first time I've come across the idea that threshold braking can be more efficient, but every time it's been either someone's personal opinion or proven wrong through testing. Eng.Exp however has a very good explanation of the mechanics of why we as humans can't compete.
      But just incase... I'm now off to see if Team O'Neil can convince me of anything else and I'll have to come back and eat crow.
      May the best sources win!

    • @blahorgaslisk7763
      @blahorgaslisk7763 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@tiagobelo4965 Good video, but not enough to convince me I should disable ABS and use threshold braking instead.
      It's my personal opinion that is you regularly rely on ABS when braking in your daily driving you are living on borrowed time. In any situation other than competition the ABS should never need to engage unless something catastrophic is happening.
      Whenever you feel ABS working you were either driving to fast or are braking to hard. Like stated in the video from Team O'Neil you have to plan ahead when driving. If you have to rely on ABS to slow down enough to take a curve you are just a few ounces of lose gravel on the road from having a very bad day.
      ABS is for the situations you can't predict such as a child running out from behind a parked car, a deer taking a leap up onto the road only to freeze in your headlights. It's for the kind of situations when your brain goes into panic mode, not for helping you drive faster and brake later. And when things like that happens the brains reaction time is still not good enough, so you really don't have time to find that perfect brake pressure that won't lock up your wheels.

  • @chincemagnet
    @chincemagnet 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This really is the most fascinating car channel on TH-cam imo, they do the cool stuff other people just can’t do, because their skill level in fabrication is extraordinary

    • @raven4k998
      @raven4k998 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah, but you have to be super rich to use copper for brake pads🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @chincemagnet
      @chincemagnet 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@raven4k998 😆 you can order customized copper plates and other pieces and metals online, I ordered a copper plate once a few years back but I can’t recall where. But yeah, copper isn’t cheap, even for a small 1/8 inch thick plate 2x2 inches it was $6 in 2017, online metals, I looked it up 😆

    • @GrantJohnston-dr9rt
      @GrantJohnston-dr9rt ปีที่แล้ว

      Because the others lack their imagination and creativity!

  • @martynwatson4929
    @martynwatson4929 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I use a copper type sintered brake pad in my dirt bike, they brake well in the wet and mud but they wear the rotors faster than the carbon/kevlar type.

    • @volvo09
      @volvo09 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I've seen those, they have a lot of copper in them.

    • @rian0xFFF
      @rian0xFFF 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Most brake works good in wet

  • @twocvbloke
    @twocvbloke 2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    I think the copper pads were getting contaminated with aluminium remnants from the discs, would have been a better idea to have separate sets of discs to test so one didn't harm the other...

    • @digitalchaos1980
      @digitalchaos1980 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That would definitely have been the best way to do this, yes!

    • @kylereese4822
      @kylereese4822 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I agree... I bet high grade brass would be even better ?

    • @ashenthrenchetty7
      @ashenthrenchetty7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      They machined the discs before both tests.. So was no contamination

    • @TobiasLeininger
      @TobiasLeininger 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ashenthrenchetty7 they didn't. You can clearly see the aluminium on the copper pads.

    • @SteveTheCanadian
      @SteveTheCanadian 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ashenthrenchetty7 they said they will machine the rotors. Clean them. Then put the pads. But all they did in the next shot was clean the rotors. Definitely contamination between the two

  • @atlasgunther8947
    @atlasgunther8947 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The rulers hate us having copper anything today but do love them some planned obsolescence 24-7.

    • @atlasgunther8947
      @atlasgunther8947 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's why they market thin pads that require replacing often, hello?

    • @skylinefever
      @skylinefever 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm not sure if the low copper or zero copper brake pads are really a problem. I used Akebono zero copper brake pads on my mom's 2011 Honda CRV. They even outlasted OEM Honda brake pads, which may have had copper.

  • @christhorney
    @christhorney 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    garage 54, always answering the questions no one ever asked

    • @joelstanhope7231
      @joelstanhope7231 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol ! Great guys , keep having fun and entertaining us

  • @whitesapphire5865
    @whitesapphire5865 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You guys have noticed the shiny metallic flecks in brake pad material? Copper is one of the metals used in the brake material. The light coloured flecks, could be aluminium, or magnesium.
    I'm not sure about modern pads and shoes, but in times gone and past, brake linings were formulated for specific applications, and in particular, according to whether the brakes were servo assisted, non assisted.

    • @otm646
      @otm646 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Copper has been almost fully eliminated at least in North America, it was causing reproductive issues in salmon. I believe they are limited to 5% copper max, some brands have moved to a fully copper free formula.

    • @bgbthabun627
      @bgbthabun627 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@otm646 that's correct don, so good of you to mention this.

    • @DarkLinkAD
      @DarkLinkAD 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Id like to see the study on that, copper is still in every Horse/Cattle Salt rock, Every vitamin/mineral complex for humans and is an addative for turkeys to relax the arteries, preventing a heart attack from rapid growth.

    • @bgbthabun627
      @bgbthabun627 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DarkLinkAD I understand, and all i have access to is the internet, so i suggest that you google "copper being removed from brake pads". and while copper is necessary for humans, it is well known as an effective agent used to prevent sea creatures from attacking boats.

    • @DarkLinkAD
      @DarkLinkAD 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bgbthabun627 I learned that information before the internet was a publicly available thing, farm work. If you have a study to reference from a reputable source such as PUBMED, ill read it. Im not much for google propaganda though

  • @msnpassjan2004
    @msnpassjan2004 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Your machining skills are always impressive.

    • @thefreedomguyuk
      @thefreedomguyuk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As long as you won't ask them to weld anything 🤣

  • @wadz668
    @wadz668 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Really love your channel! You guys do some amazing experiments on cars and it is always fun to watch!

    • @raven4k998
      @raven4k998 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      now you know why brake pads aren't made completely out of aluminum now as they have way too much bite for braking

  • @Monni95
    @Monni95 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Need to make similar comparison with bronze and brass brake pads...

  • @andrewdunbar5335
    @andrewdunbar5335 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Aluminum pads have a major problem. The freshly exposed surfaces instantly oxidize to form a thin layer alumium oxide aka corundum. This can wear out the disks prematurely.

  • @trentcard
    @trentcard 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Don't forget the aluminum and copper both feel hot BECAUSE they cool off quickly-your hands feel the increased heat that they give off! Brakes just get that hot, even fast conductivity doesn't make it any more bearable to touch after removal.

  • @skylinefever
    @skylinefever 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I like this. BBC Top Gear encountered aluminum brake rotors in the "Communist cars" episode. They said aluminum has the braking properties of cheese.
    Stay weird, Garage 54. Never stop being weird.

    • @partciudgam8478
      @partciudgam8478 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      BBC Top Gear is as reliable as a honest politician on campaign...
      They were forcd to admit they "staged" (american english is faked) the Reliant Robin rollovers, and the Tesla failures...
      If they knew Jack sh*t of cars, this episode wouldn't have existed, as Russia was part of the producers of commie cars.

    • @Matthew-wj8cm
      @Matthew-wj8cm 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It was the rear brake drums on a Lada Riva. They're made of aluminium

  • @simonallan9941
    @simonallan9941 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes aluminum binds with steel pretty well even when cold, but against the iron rotor it wouldn't take much to get hot enough to melt and bind with the cast iron. brake pads are designed to not grip much so as to last longer and not cause an inconvenience like a crash 😂

  • @rossbryan6102
    @rossbryan6102 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    USING MY EXPERIENCE ON USA RAILROADS , I WORKED IN THE TIMES THAT WE CONVERTED MOST ROLLING STOCK FROM CAST IRON BRAKE SHOES ON WHEEL RIMS TO COMPOSITION
    BRAKE SHOES!
    IT WAS FOUND TO BE NECESSARY TO REDUCE THE PRESSURE.
    THIS WAS DONE BY CHANGING BRAKE LEVER RATIO , OR BY USING
    SMALLER SIZE BRAKE CYLINDER
    SIZES!
    OVERALL IT DECREASED THE WEAR ON WHEELS!
    THE ONLY LOCOMOTIVES THAT NEVER WERE CONVERTED TO
    COMPOSITION SHOES ARE THE STEAM LOCOMOTIVES, BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT ALIKE ON DIFFERENT TYPES, AND TO MY KNOWLEDGE NO ONE MANUFACTURES THEM!
    HOWEVER SPECIALIZED METAL FOUNDRIES STILL CAST THEM !
    KEEP THEM ROLLING BROTHERS!!
    👍👍

  • @IustinianP
    @IustinianP 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    11:51 that moment when you see a pothole and hit the brake pedal😂😂

  • @DaveWithMS
    @DaveWithMS 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I would love to see you use copper for friction material on a clutch.

  • @sinegra30
    @sinegra30 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    In my country we use bronze and brass plated clutches and brakes for race car applications

  • @SJR_Media_Group
    @SJR_Media_Group 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Copper transfers heat better than Aluminum. That is why it is used in high end cookware. You can buy 'semi-metallic' brake pads, but you can't buy 'solid metallic' brakes pads for obvious reasons (don't work very well).

  • @MVP11489
    @MVP11489 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You should try brass, ceramic, rubber (like a piece of a tire), maybe even stainless steel and titanium

    • @nerd1000ify
      @nerd1000ify 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bicycle brake pads are usually rubber. They work very well against aluminium rims but tend to be a lot less effective when wet.

  • @amdintelxsniperx
    @amdintelxsniperx ปีที่แล้ว

    copper pads do exist . however they are adhered and mixed with carbide so they dont wear fast . they used to use them in race cars

  • @captidgas
    @captidgas 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    im guessing the aluminum was 6061 i wonder what 7075 vs 7050 vs 2024 or maybe even 2219 if you could find any of that

  • @Reziac
    @Reziac 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Use whetstones... invent the self-machining rotor ;)

  • @yodasbff3395
    @yodasbff3395 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Interesting experiment. 👍

  • @robertborgeson1821
    @robertborgeson1821 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Aluminum with lubricant. It wouldn't be ideal in the real world because you would constantly have to relube and clean dirt. But I am just curious from a performance standpoint. I would THINK the lube/oil would help with cooling, the initial over bite, and the fusing. Would have to see how it affects stopping power though. In my mind with how aggressive they bite, even with the lube, just apply more pressure and they will still go to full lockup

  • @devildesignscustoms
    @devildesignscustoms 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'd like to see them try Australian bush mechanics replacements made out of redgum wood

  • @christophermarshall5765
    @christophermarshall5765 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've used heavy duty pads on one of my cars. Those had copper in them.

  • @mytebetme
    @mytebetme 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    How about carbon fiber brake pads?
    Or carbon fiber rotors?

    • @nerd1000ify
      @nerd1000ify 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Carbon fiber pads would do a wonderful job of grinding down your rotors, carbon fiber is usually very abrasive.
      As for the rotors themselves, I think a normal carbon fiber composite would suffer failure of the resin due to heat. However carbon fibers are often used as a component of ceramic rotors used in the brakes of high performance cars and aircraft.

  • @samuelbean9928
    @samuelbean9928 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So what do the major brake pad suppliers use on their full metallic pads? I'm sure it is metal but of a powdered construction. I don't know but I would like to see if you could buy your own lining and reline your own pads. In the old days here in the states you could get linings for brake shoes. Sure there would be issues with some jackleg not doing it right but...

    • @DarkLinkAD
      @DarkLinkAD 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ceramic and carbon mostly, depends really.

    • @bt3411
      @bt3411 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Steel, copper, ceramic, kevlar are some common materials, all bound in a carbon compound

  • @SolveElectronics
    @SolveElectronics 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    what is written on the brake disk at 13:55?

  • @austinball4343
    @austinball4343 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is meant by "derailment" content in the aluminum? Silicon?

  • @fatjaysgarage
    @fatjaysgarage 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    These guys are excellent fabricators. Id love to see them build a fleet of lada race cars and race them

    • @mememan2344
      @mememan2344 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah they should make some that include a combination of the best of their ideas over the years, fully tuned and go head to head.

  • @michaelchapman1358
    @michaelchapman1358 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That rim and tire just laying down taking a nap

  • @tyler34r
    @tyler34r 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Two qualities for the video 360p or the paid enhanced bitrate for youtube premium. I'm already using youtube, revanced extended to disable ads.

  • @josejuanrosales3614
    @josejuanrosales3614 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Man imagine doing tungsten carbide break pads!!
    That would be epic to see

    • @MrCheesywaffles
      @MrCheesywaffles 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You'd be almost just wearing the rotor instead of almost only wearing the pads as they're supposed to.
      Could be interesting, if you could cast/machine tungsten carbide into the correct shape. Easier said than done given it's high melting point and hardness.

    • @josejuanrosales3614
      @josejuanrosales3614 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MrCheesywaffles yeah for sure is almost impossible to melt one of the most retractable metals in existence

    • @texasslingleadsomtingwong8751
      @texasslingleadsomtingwong8751 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Be expensive , if you could get some sintered somewhere . I'd like to see clean rotors against brass , steel , and titanium ( Russia has alot more than we do in the states.).

    • @andrewdunbar5335
      @andrewdunbar5335 ปีที่แล้ว

      They would simply wear away the disk but have very little stopping effect.The ideal brake pad material is *soft* with good thermal characteristics.

  • @thisdude2373
    @thisdude2373 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonder what would happen if you used a copper aluminum alloy?

  • @douglasthompson2740
    @douglasthompson2740 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just one good interesting video after another. Bravo!

  • @milandjuric3119
    @milandjuric3119 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Buy a lot of those diamond drill bits or diamond disks for cutting floor tiles. Make them into brake pads

  • @teoflores4088
    @teoflores4088 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    They make brass for side by sides and 4wheelers

  • @Neovo.Geesink
    @Neovo.Geesink 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The copper and aluminium does not cool fast. That is a Misconception. They both conducht heat very well, and that is why they are used as a cooler (Heatsink). By using finned copper and aluminium blocks with a fan, they can really get things cool, so thats why they "cool things fast".
    Theyselves will stay allmost hot the same time as an identically formed block of Iron or Steel.

  • @ChieFChalinOLarssoN
    @ChieFChalinOLarssoN หลายเดือนก่อน

    LEAD breakepads would be interesting. I think that would grip better on the disk.

  • @sulefff
    @sulefff ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice test! 13:01 Anyone happen to know this song?

  • @Jagermonsta
    @Jagermonsta 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    the aluminium wasn't melting in order to stick to the steel, it's simply a softer metal and gauled up the surface of the rotor.

  • @MRPricks
    @MRPricks 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This Chanel always has me pinned to my seat great content as always.

  • @trashyspeeds266
    @trashyspeeds266 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Isnt it because they are softer metals?

  • @ashiehakoto1490
    @ashiehakoto1490 ปีที่แล้ว

    now try aluminum bronze brake pads. can you get the best of both by smelting 50/50 aluminum and copper into brake pads?

  • @supersmalls
    @supersmalls 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you try this same setup in a truck, something with a bit more weight to it

  • @joshtessier5108
    @joshtessier5108 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s great how much the translator sounds like Kermit 😂

  • @LG1ikLx
    @LG1ikLx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You should have done stock pads for comparison. Great video thou!'

  • @Fpvfreaky
    @Fpvfreaky 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Carbon fibre would be good to test.

  • @anibalbabilonia1867
    @anibalbabilonia1867 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That was a great experiment! You guy’s never seize to amaze me!👌😂👍that was awesome!

    • @swandonovan
      @swandonovan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cease

    • @crowvelle
      @crowvelle 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cease... but yeah, I agree!

    • @shawbros
      @shawbros 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@crowvelle
      I think it was intentional.

    • @crowvelle
      @crowvelle 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@shawbros Man good catch, I completely missed it, thanks. 😂

  • @Gpgesell1
    @Gpgesell1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i wonder how these would work with abs

    • @MattBrownbill
      @MattBrownbill 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You mean get a bodybuilder to press the brakes? 😂

  • @sjv6598
    @sjv6598 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    3:40 bro sounds like an eBay turbo 😂

  • @joebloe9901
    @joebloe9901 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Although aluminum is soft, aluminum oxide is right next to diamond on the hardness scale.
    Aluminum oxide forms in nano-seconds.
    Machining aluminum dulls your cutting tools pretty quick because of the oxide.
    Aluminum makes a horrible bearing surface.

  • @you-dont-know-me
    @you-dont-know-me 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    TRY making Mechano Wheels (set of 4 wheels allows car to move in any direction or to rotate perfectly)

  • @bennyboyy7
    @bennyboyy7 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Copper makes more sense than aluminum just because it's a little harder and I think has a higher melting point. Could only imagine modern abs system with these pads. Before I watched all the way through I was thinking the copper would be a better emergency back up. The way aluminum shears too is much more severe than copper.

  • @VinylToVideo
    @VinylToVideo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would guess copper. Aluminum is light and more malleable, though copper is pretty malleable too.

  • @MrVeryCranky
    @MrVeryCranky 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Try magnesium brake pads

  • @pablojones5613
    @pablojones5613 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It would be interesting to what cast iron brake pads would do on cast iron rotors.

    • @raven4k998
      @raven4k998 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      what about gold much cheaper than copper🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @4BillC
    @4BillC 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It doesn't matter what pads you're using, if the tire lock up, stopping distance will be the same.

    • @thefreedomguyuk
      @thefreedomguyuk 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's why pads are dynamic, with the appropriate initial bite. In this way minimising the braking distance, and avoiding the locking. Anyway, ABS is your friend.

  • @xminusone1
    @xminusone1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tyres with the nails are locking more easily than those without nails. You may consider this.

  • @SV-cg3sk
    @SV-cg3sk 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    slotted and drilled brake pads now!

  • @davidbowser2395
    @davidbowser2395 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Should try carbon fiber rotors or pads strong and light.

  • @joelstanhope7231
    @joelstanhope7231 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonder how brass would do ?

  • @TheHortond
    @TheHortond 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sintered pads are copper and organic material. You still have to break them in. 200 mile stop and go traffic.

  • @15lumen
    @15lumen 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great, interesting video. Also great editing.

  • @FeralDayASMR
    @FeralDayASMR 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    use new rotors for the copper and redo do that test as it is flawed since the rotors condition have changed

  • @ameenm7576
    @ameenm7576 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Make an aluminum clutch disc

  • @t77chevy
    @t77chevy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    try brass , is what us mud guys use on atv , southern Texas so sand eats up normal pads in pits

  • @groenevinger3893
    @groenevinger3893 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video as always!

  • @ionbusman2086
    @ionbusman2086 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Need to make some aluminum shoes for my bus it sounds like lol

  • @HunzalaRizwan
    @HunzalaRizwan ปีที่แล้ว

    You should also try brake pads made up of tungsten.

  • @joe125ful
    @joe125ful 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Next titanium braking pads?

  • @mehrshadvr4
    @mehrshadvr4 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Copper and bronze act like lubricant. That’s why they use them for bushings.

  • @gergelytoth915
    @gergelytoth915 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Car manufacturers uses aluminium powder in sport pads for the better brake performance,the negativ thing this pads eats the disc soon,these pads needs harder discs than the normal.

  • @trenthollifield6969
    @trenthollifield6969 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love garage 54

  • @thewhizard
    @thewhizard 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    titanium and flint?

  • @crowvelle
    @crowvelle 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Me when I fall off my bike: 11:14

  • @therandomman6647
    @therandomman6647 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hah! I was just watching the previous video when this popped up

  • @adeptusmechanicus7572
    @adeptusmechanicus7572 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have you ever tried titanium?

  • @MattyEngland
    @MattyEngland 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thks for a great video. 👍 Love to all our Russian brothers and sisters 👍

    • @Somesh-Ji
      @Somesh-Ji 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are an Indian. We support Russia.

  • @stevenfaber3896
    @stevenfaber3896 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you do some more tests for "things that can survive a siberian winter"? Would be curious about these types of things.

  • @Hydrogenblonde
    @Hydrogenblonde 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Maybe try different types of bronze.

  • @EMNM22
    @EMNM22 ปีที่แล้ว

    👍You should try brass pads or Nickel pads.
    🤘😁

  • @rayceeya8659
    @rayceeya8659 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The aluminum probably got super grippy because it work hardens faster not because of the melting temperature.

  • @737Garrus
    @737Garrus 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I predicted the Aluminum Pads would be incredibly slippery, not at all effective at stopping the car, man I was wrong XD

  • @randomelectronicsanddispla1765
    @randomelectronicsanddispla1765 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Next, with some brake rotors made of aluminium as well

  • @Psyrecx
    @Psyrecx 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sintered brake pads have copper in them for grip.

  • @deant876
    @deant876 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I thought that the aluminum pads would have melted more than they did

  • @Sciencegum5
    @Sciencegum5 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    See if you can friction weld with a lada!

  • @backslash_iii
    @backslash_iii 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I want to see this done in a car with ABS

    • @kylereese4822
      @kylereese4822 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      For sure a braking system part for a zombie apocalypse world... :)

  • @Dat_Sun
    @Dat_Sun 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Whatever they made my 1979 Datsun 620 brake shoes with is the best, they have lasted over 40 years and still have 40% left.

    • @DarkLinkAD
      @DarkLinkAD 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      How many miles?

    • @Dat_Sun
      @Dat_Sun 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DarkLinkAD only 57k miles. It's not just the miles, but the time. The pads are not cracked and the original hardware still functions perfectly, it's good quality stuff.

    • @MYartiisMuRdEr
      @MYartiisMuRdEr 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Asbestos

    • @Dat_Sun
      @Dat_Sun 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @MYartiisMuRdEr Good stuff. Trace amounts, it's inert and stable in a brake pad. If I was changing them several times a day, all my life and blowing dust everywhere. I might wear a mask.

  • @Thezuule1
    @Thezuule1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Better is one of those terms that's too open ended. Better how? Price, durability, heat dissipation, etc.

  • @piousminion7822
    @piousminion7822 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    #10:40 It sounds like he says "please ignore me" in English. lol

  • @ck17350
    @ck17350 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can anyone tell me what truck this is? I love the look.

    • @DarkLinkAD
      @DarkLinkAD 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      4 door car. Prob a lada

    • @crown674
      @crown674 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's a Lada station wagon (VAZ-2104) hacked up into a pick up.

    • @ck17350
      @ck17350 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you! I’ll be looking that up now. :)

  • @werewolfdudesresalenewused4819
    @werewolfdudesresalenewused4819 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How about 1 of each in each side