I really want to invest in getting the 6K Pro as the B cam to my URSA 12K. But the URSA 12K has been my documentary setup and I love it. Most of my doc work wasn’t super impromptu, last-minute, so I was able to plan and prepare for each day. If someone is doing a lot of unplanned, last-minute work I bet having a compact beast such as the 6K Pro is a God send. 👌 Love this video!
I have a BMPCC4K and a BMPCC 6K Pro. I use the 6k Pro primarily for documentary work and the 4K as a B cam for shooting the interviews. I came from shooting with Panasonic LUMIX GH5S (and other GHx models) so I had built a set of MFT lenses over time which is why I got the 4K and I have the usual sigma 18-35 for the 6K Pro. Im still getting used to it but I like it.
@@OfTwoLands I have thought about selling my MFT lenses and getting the EF versions and a 6K and being able to use the lenses on both cameras but that is too much work. Lol
Great video, and I have both cameras and I agree with what you’re saying about documentary work where you need to be more run and gun or more discrete with a smaller package, especially if outdoors and that means the pro is the better idea. Secondly, if it’s going to be more of a static interview/documentary, then the 6K rigged up is certainly a great option. As always, I appreciate your insights here and sharing your work.
@@OfTwoLands agreed. Thanks again! (Also, do you consider the 6K pro to be one of your “every day carry” cameras that you carry around with you most places or do you typically take your EOS R with you? I also work with an Eos r & r6)
Always putting out great content! You inspired me to make my first documentary. 6K pro as my A Cam, EOS R as my B Cam. I have the interview and story ready now I just need a bit more b roll. I just hope my interviewee is ok with single digit weather haha
@@OfTwoLands Anytime! Just near home in Ohio USA. Mill Creek Park is the filming location, hugely popular with runners. We're going to get a pretty bad winter storm and we are likely to have single digit temperatures fahrenheit for some time. But he, like me, likes to run in the winter so we should be good to go!
i'd Choose the 6k Pro, for rigged out I'd go with my Zcam if I need to add batteries and a monitor and a cage I think the ergonomics make less sense. Though I think i'd prefer the grip and the evf. Did you know tilta make an EVF relocator for rigs? may be useful for yourself to give the best of both worlds and I am pretty sure the small rig cage allows the grip to be added. I was wondering your thoughts on the Rode video mic 2, maybe you have a video on it. I actually think a video on sound would be very cool too, how you capture etc. Great video again Flo and thanks.
Thanks for the review. It's a great doc camera, wouldn't last 3 months on a real movie set due to its overuse of plastic and wacky XLR inputs but it's still great for docs. Iove this cheap option vs a 10k version. Now I can afford to.shoot with 2 for the price of one. My audience has no idea and frankly either do the professionals. If the image looks beautiful than it's a success.
I am really worried about long takes, which are substantial for my kind of documentary work, shooting in 6k 12:1 braw - the file sizes get massive. I love braw and I am still using the pocket 4k, because the 4k raw codec is still so efficient. What do you think? Should I try the 6k pro?
Hi, when would you choose to use a matte box vs go without one? I’m thinking doc work specifically. I have a matte box but wondering if you find it draws too much attention in urban spaces?
Great and beautiful content. I checked your gear list in the description. Could you please tell us which gimbal you used for the 6K Pro when shooting your sister in her bicycle? Thank you!!
@@OfTwoLands Thank you! Your work has inspired me to save up for the 6K Pro for both work (real estate) and my own outings here in Japan. GoPro and little Canon are OK, but I want to level up someday in the near future. Thank you for actually replying!! 🙏🏻
Thanks mate!! Haha you can never know! When they announce a new model like the bmpcc4k it took months for the release so hopefully when they do it next it'll be as fast at the 6K and 6K Pro :)
Hi Of Two Lands, do you happen to have the link for the rod clamp that you are using? The SmallRig one that appears on the side of your rig, it's very clean and minimal to have a follow focus attached. Much thanks!
Finally a BM camera, that could be actually used without a ton of accessories even if not perfect even then =D but surely - this one finally is very interesting for me!
I've wanted to pick up a c200 a few years ago but the price for the limitations it had was annoying. Seeing as the price has dropped, do you still see yourself using the c200 today for paid documentary work over your pocket 6k? I just sold my Canon r5 to possibly wait for what's out there. But c200b internal raw looks amazing for commercial work as well as having autofocus with an image equivalent to the bmpcc 6k. The image still is amazing today. Do you still hang on to your c200?
I saw the price drop recently and I think the C200 is still an amazing documentary camera even today! Very reliable and convenient especially for long shoots or longer form content or corporate job without intense grading. The RAW is awesome but so heavy and I actually never used it for that reason.
Thank you for this video. When using the Canon EF 16-35mm with image stabilization -- do you notice any impact on battery life from the image stabilization? About to embark on a 10 day backpacking trip with my 6K Pro and the Canon EF 16-35mm, and curious if this will be an issue at all. Thank you!
Thanks!! I think the Pro would be great for weddings. I have never shot weddings but it sometimes seems to be very similar to documentary work in some ways.
@@OfTwoLands I think I skipped a day at school when it came to amps volts and watts so after abit of education I got 4 batteries for my 6kg2 and I’ll eventually get a vmount system. But for now I’m keen to travel and keep light
As bmpcc is a non weatherprof cam, how do you protect against weather, water splash, rain etc.. i watched someone damaged his 1 week old 6kpro due to sea water splash corrored all internal electric circuit :(
I am always super careful and if for some reason I still need to film under crazy conditions like when I was in Antarctica or Iceland then I use my Eos R :)
Salut ! Merci beaucoup pour ta vidéo et tout les conseils que tu donnes ! Tu utilises quelle marque pour tes NP-F ? J'ai des Sony mais elles sont loin de tenir 1h C'est plutôt du 10/15min donc c'est vraiment court pour faire quoique ce soit Merci !
Hey, merci de prendre le temps de regarder mes videos! J'ai deux NPF de Blackmagic (3500 mah) deux de Neewer (2600) et une basic de 2000. Les Blackmagic durent vraiment plus longtemps! Quand je voyage en general j'utilise 3 batteries pour la journee :)
I just got the ursa G1. I knew about the downsides compared to the g2 but i got it for a steal of a price 1700 and it works perfectly fine. I would love to hear your experience using that camera as a documentary camera because my rig is insanely heavy. Would you recommend that lower gen camera today?
Congrats, pretty good deal! I loved my Ursa but as you said it was quite heavy and bulky and I ended up replacing it with a C200 since I was shooting several documentaries overseas as it was a much easier/lighter option. It is a great camera especially from a shooting experience point of view but I think the Gen 2, the 6K Pro and even the 12K are better value. As always whatever works with your type of work is the right camera :)
Now you have the two 6Ks, get the original modded with the Pod mod or the Tilta screen mod. The original 6K’s smaller size with the tilt screen and either a hulking battery or on board SSD would give you a original 6K to rival the pro and give you even more shooting style options. I'd also get the LucAdapters Magic Booster and have a low light improved, nearly full frame, hot rod 6K beast. You know you want it.
You can, of course. I just prefer using my regular 6k when rigging because when I add a monitor, a battery back and cinema filters I don't need the Pro features anymore.
I really love the image from the 6K sensor. However, when it comes to documentary, the battery life gives me pause. I’m hoping that something they can resolve in the future.
I have never had a problem using V Locks on my Pockets but yes it would be nice to be able to use bigger internal batteries or for them to last longer. 1h30 per battery would be a great start!
@@OfTwoLands This is good to know. In the past I had avoided V and Gold Mount batteries because of size and weight when filming doc style. I usually had gone the way of Canon for this reason filming all day with a simple battery. However, I prefer the colors of Blackmagic's 5th generation color science. The skin tones are what I imagine it should be when compared to Alexa and RED. What types of V mounts and chargers do you use? The ones we have are heavy. So we often don't fly with them. We use them when driving places though.
I just posted this on another video... watching this becuase I'm considering using my Pro for a doc soon. With the grip I get just under 3 hours I find thats fine with hot swaping.
The big screen is always going to draw heaps of power. If you are doing takes longer than 30 mins, can you plug the camera in? Takes shorter than 30 mins (mine are rarely longer than 1 min) then a bunch of batteries can easily do the job without clutter. I would like to see a MagSafe connected belt battery so you could plug the camera in while on the go but if it tugged on the cable it would release easily.
It depends on the type of documentaries you do. I owned the C100 Mk2 for a few years and the C200 for 2 years and I still decided to keep my BMPCC6K instead. I do a lot of portrait style short documentaries so it suits the Pocket but of course if you go out and shoot a longer form doco over several days or weeks then the Pocket won't be ideal. I also use my Eos R a lot as a B Cam. I did consider the C70 but too many limitations and the R5C is a great hybrid but not a viable options as a filmmaking only tool imo. Plus Prores and Raw internally is also very important for what I do.
@@OfTwoLands What are you feeling are too many limitations on a c70? It now has good lite raw, built in nd's that are better than the pockets and no ir pollution etc. Their digital is works good as well. Im just asking because ive had the pocket 6k, 1dx ii, komodo, r5, c70 etc and the c70 was way above everything else for running around and it had as much DR/IQ as the komodo imo.
Rien ne t'oblige à regarder cette video :) Je n'avai jamais utilisé cette camera pour des documentaires avant cette année donc ca ne peut pas etre vraiment répétitif si c'est la premiere fois que je dédie une video à la 6K Pro en tant que camera doco. Aussi, je base toujours mes videos sur les questions que je reçois le plus, et cela en fait partie.
Today we are talking about using the BMPCC6K PRO as a documentary camera.
If you shoot docos, what is your go to setup?
Cheers,
Flo
I really want to invest in getting the 6K Pro as the B cam to my URSA 12K. But the URSA 12K has been my documentary setup and I love it. Most of my doc work wasn’t super impromptu, last-minute, so I was able to plan and prepare for each day.
If someone is doing a lot of unplanned, last-minute work I bet having a compact beast such as the 6K Pro is a God send. 👌 Love this video!
I’m a simple man, I see an Of Two Lands video, I click, I watch. Another amazing one Flo!
Haha appreciate it man, thank you!!
Have a merry christmas Flo and looking forward to an even better 2023
Thanks so much guys, happy holidays !! :)
Congrats for a great year on TH-cam :) !
Thanks so much :) xx
I have a BMPCC4K and a BMPCC 6K Pro. I use the 6k Pro primarily for documentary work and the 4K as a B cam for shooting the interviews. I came from shooting with Panasonic LUMIX GH5S (and other GHx models) so I had built a set of MFT lenses over time which is why I got the 4K and I have the usual sigma 18-35 for the 6K Pro. Im still getting used to it but I like it.
Sounds like a pretty solid combo!
I kinda wish I had kept my 4k haha, love that cam!
@@OfTwoLands I have thought about selling my MFT lenses and getting the EF versions and a 6K and being able to use the lenses on both cameras but that is too much work. Lol
I use the 6k Pro for documentary work. I moved over from a Canon C300 which is also a Great camera for docs.
Both great cameras for sure, with their own pros and cons.
Great video, and I have both cameras and I agree with what you’re saying about documentary work where you need to be more run and gun or more discrete with a smaller package, especially if outdoors and that means the pro is the better idea. Secondly, if it’s going to be more of a static interview/documentary, then the 6K rigged up is certainly a great option.
As always, I appreciate your insights here and sharing your work.
Thanks a lot for watching!!
And yes, I totally agree. That being said both cameras will do the job :)
@@OfTwoLands agreed. Thanks again! (Also, do you consider the 6K pro to be one of your “every day carry” cameras that you carry around with you most places or do you typically take your EOS R with you? I also work with an Eos r & r6)
Always love your videos! I’d love to see what you could do with an even more all-in-one documentary camera, like the Arri Amira.
Thanks so much!! I would love to have a go at the Amira, dream cam for me :)
Always putting out great content! You inspired me to make my first documentary.
6K pro as my A Cam, EOS R as my B Cam.
I have the interview and story ready now I just need a bit more b roll. I just hope my interviewee is ok with single digit weather haha
Thanks so much mate!! Glad to hear!
Haha where are you filming?
@@OfTwoLands Anytime!
Just near home in Ohio USA. Mill Creek Park is the filming location, hugely popular with runners.
We're going to get a pretty bad winter storm and we are likely to have single digit temperatures fahrenheit for some time. But he, like me, likes to run in the winter so we should be good to go!
Nice work man!🔥
Thank you!!
i'd Choose the 6k Pro, for rigged out I'd go with my Zcam if I need to add batteries and a monitor and a cage I think the ergonomics make less sense. Though I think i'd prefer the grip and the evf. Did you know tilta make an EVF relocator for rigs? may be useful for yourself to give the best of both worlds and I am pretty sure the small rig cage allows the grip to be added. I was wondering your thoughts on the Rode video mic 2, maybe you have a video on it. I actually think a video on sound would be very cool too, how you capture etc. Great video again Flo and thanks.
Thanks for the review. It's a great doc camera, wouldn't last 3 months on a real movie set due to its overuse of plastic and wacky XLR inputs but it's still great for docs. Iove this cheap option vs a 10k version.
Now I can afford to.shoot with 2 for the price of one. My audience has no idea and frankly either do the professionals. If the image looks beautiful than it's a success.
I am really worried about long takes, which are substantial for my kind of documentary work, shooting in 6k 12:1 braw - the file sizes get massive. I love braw and I am still using the pocket 4k, because the 4k raw codec is still so efficient. What do you think? Should I try the 6k pro?
Hi, when would you choose to use a matte box vs go without one? I’m thinking doc work specifically. I have a matte box but wondering if you find it draws too much attention in urban spaces?
Great and beautiful content. I checked your gear list in the description. Could you please tell us which gimbal you used for the 6K Pro when shooting your sister in her bicycle? Thank you!!
Thank you!! Here is the link for the gimbal geni.us/RFen
It is the Crane 2S :)
@@OfTwoLands Thank you! Your work has inspired me to save up for the 6K Pro for both work (real estate) and my own outings here in Japan. GoPro and little Canon are OK, but I want to level up someday in the near future. Thank you for actually replying!! 🙏🏻
Good stuff bro! Been thinking of getting a 6K for our studio b cam to our Ursa but putting it off just in case BMD put out another pocket in 2023 😂
Thanks mate!! Haha you can never know!
When they announce a new model like the bmpcc4k it took months for the release so hopefully when they do it next it'll be as fast at the 6K and 6K Pro :)
Hi Of Two Lands, do you happen to have the link for the rod clamp that you are using? The SmallRig one that appears on the side of your rig, it's very clean and minimal to have a follow focus attached. Much thanks!
Hey, I always get asked about this one and I think they replaced it. It used to be the standard Rod Clamp :)
@@OfTwoLands I see, thank you! Happy holidays!
Finally a BM camera, that could be actually used without a ton of accessories even if not perfect even then =D but surely - this one finally is very interesting for me!
It sure is a great camera for the price and size!
I've wanted to pick up a c200 a few years ago but the price for the limitations it had was annoying. Seeing as the price has dropped, do you still see yourself using the c200 today for paid documentary work over your pocket 6k? I just sold my Canon r5 to possibly wait for what's out there. But c200b internal raw looks amazing for commercial work as well as having autofocus with an image equivalent to the bmpcc 6k. The image still is amazing today. Do you still hang on to your c200?
I saw the price drop recently and I think the C200 is still an amazing documentary camera even today! Very reliable and convenient especially for long shoots or longer form content or corporate job without intense grading.
The RAW is awesome but so heavy and I actually never used it for that reason.
Thank you for this video. When using the Canon EF 16-35mm with image stabilization -- do you notice any impact on battery life from the image stabilization? About to embark on a 10 day backpacking trip with my 6K Pro and the Canon EF 16-35mm, and curious if this will be an issue at all. Thank you!
Hey thanks for the helpful video Flo. Which easyrig are you using?
I have the Minimax :) Thanks for watching!!
If it doesn't have follow focus how do you shoot the cycling shots?
I made sure to keep the correct distance, wasn't easy but it worked :)
Great video. What do you think of the BMPCC6K Pro as a wedding camera?
Thanks!! I think the Pro would be great for weddings. I have never shot weddings but it sometimes seems to be very similar to documentary work in some ways.
love your videos! what brand of NP-f batteries do you use?
Thanks so much!! I have both the Blackmagic and Neewer ones.
@@OfTwoLands I think I skipped a day at school when it came to amps volts and watts so after abit of education I got 4 batteries for my 6kg2 and I’ll eventually get a vmount system. But for now I’m keen to travel and keep light
As bmpcc is a non weatherprof cam, how do you protect against weather, water splash, rain etc.. i watched someone damaged his 1 week old 6kpro due to sea water splash corrored all internal electric circuit :(
I am always super careful and if for some reason I still need to film under crazy conditions like when I was in Antarctica or Iceland then I use my Eos R :)
Do you think the BMPCC 6K G2 is better than the Blackmagic ursa mini pro G1? Cheers
They are made for different uses and scenarios in my opinion. Similar in specs but ergonomics and built are definitely different.
Salut !
Merci beaucoup pour ta vidéo et tout les conseils que tu donnes !
Tu utilises quelle marque pour tes NP-F ?
J'ai des Sony mais elles sont loin de tenir 1h
C'est plutôt du 10/15min donc c'est vraiment court pour faire quoique ce soit
Merci !
Hey, merci de prendre le temps de regarder mes videos!
J'ai deux NPF de Blackmagic (3500 mah) deux de Neewer (2600) et une basic de 2000. Les Blackmagic durent vraiment plus longtemps!
Quand je voyage en general j'utilise 3 batteries pour la journee :)
@@OfTwoLands merci beaucoup pour ta réponse ! Je vais partir sur les 3500 mah alors !
I just got the ursa G1. I knew about the downsides compared to the g2 but i got it for a steal of a price 1700 and it works perfectly fine. I would love to hear your experience using that camera as a documentary camera because my rig is insanely heavy. Would you recommend that lower gen camera today?
Congrats, pretty good deal! I loved my Ursa but as you said it was quite heavy and bulky and I ended up replacing it with a C200 since I was shooting several documentaries overseas as it was a much easier/lighter option. It is a great camera especially from a shooting experience point of view but I think the Gen 2, the 6K Pro and even the 12K are better value. As always whatever works with your type of work is the right camera :)
Now you have the two 6Ks, get the original modded with the Pod mod or the Tilta screen mod.
The original 6K’s smaller size with the tilt screen and either a hulking battery or on board SSD would give you a original 6K to rival the pro and give you even more shooting style options. I'd also get the LucAdapters Magic Booster and have a low light improved, nearly full frame, hot rod 6K beast.
You know you want it.
Nope 😅
@@OfTwoLands Hehe. Yeah, I get it.
if you are editing on fcpx how do you handle the braw files?
I always transcode the files in Davinci to Prores first :)
@@OfTwoLands ah I see! Thank you.
Great video!
Thank you!!
Please tell me, why not use the 6K pro "fully rigged"?
You can, of course. I just prefer using my regular 6k when rigging because when I add a monitor, a battery back and cinema filters I don't need the Pro features anymore.
I really love the image from the 6K sensor. However, when it comes to documentary, the battery life gives me pause. I’m hoping that something they can resolve in the future.
I have never had a problem using V Locks on my Pockets but yes it would be nice to be able to use bigger internal batteries or for them to last longer.
1h30 per battery would be a great start!
@@OfTwoLands This is good to know. In the past I had avoided V and Gold Mount batteries because of size and weight when filming doc style. I usually had gone the way of Canon for this reason filming all day with a simple battery. However, I prefer the colors of Blackmagic's 5th generation color science. The skin tones are what I imagine it should be when compared to Alexa and RED. What types of V mounts and chargers do you use? The ones we have are heavy. So we often don't fly with them. We use them when driving places though.
I just posted this on another video... watching this becuase I'm considering using my Pro for a doc soon. With the grip I get just under 3 hours I find thats fine with hot swaping.
The big screen is always going to draw heaps of power. If you are doing takes longer than 30 mins, can you plug the camera in?
Takes shorter than 30 mins (mine are rarely longer than 1 min) then a bunch of batteries can easily do the job without clutter.
I would like to see a MagSafe connected belt battery so you could plug the camera in while on the go but if it tugged on the cable it would release easily.
C70 or R5C would make your life much easier
It depends on the type of documentaries you do. I owned the C100 Mk2 for a few years and the C200 for 2 years and I still decided to keep my BMPCC6K instead.
I do a lot of portrait style short documentaries so it suits the Pocket but of course if you go out and shoot a longer form doco over several days or weeks then the Pocket won't be ideal. I also use my Eos R a lot as a B Cam. I did consider the C70 but too many limitations and the R5C is a great hybrid but not a viable options as a filmmaking only tool imo.
Plus Prores and Raw internally is also very important for what I do.
@@OfTwoLands What are you feeling are too many limitations on a c70? It now has good lite raw, built in nd's that are better than the pockets and no ir pollution etc. Their digital is works good as well. Im just asking because ive had the pocket 6k, 1dx ii, komodo, r5, c70 etc and the c70 was way above everything else for running around and it had as much DR/IQ as the komodo imo.
Ça commence à être répétitif 😅
Rien ne t'oblige à regarder cette video :) Je n'avai jamais utilisé cette camera pour des documentaires avant cette année donc ca ne peut pas etre vraiment répétitif si c'est la premiere fois que je dédie une video à la 6K Pro en tant que camera doco.
Aussi, je base toujours mes videos sur les questions que je reçois le plus, et cela en fait partie.