He said he was betrayed by a close friend, in his defense he probably didn’t even see it coming. Plus he was just living peacefully, he didn’t think anyone would be out to get him.
@@IsaiahWyatt-b9glove that mission in Syndicate (iirc) where you have to go through Edward’s mansion. Cool to just have another little piece of Edward lore in the series even though he wasn’t alive.
Fun fact Shao Jun was, in fact, mentioned in Assassin's Creed 3 while Achilles was training connor. Achilles mentions that Shao Jun created the rope dart.
Altair dying at such an old age is actually impressive considering the period in which he was around had way less cures for diseases and whatnot let alone he was an assassin constantly getting into trouble, also he was stabbed by Al Mualim on top of that.
Altair lived the coolest life in my opinion. sure guy's life was miserable, he suffered from such a young age, lost so many of his loved ones. But he also shaped the Brotherhood, created an benchmark for future generations. And when he thought he has done everything, he simply died in a locked chamber. He died by his own choice rather than being killed or backstabbed by someone else (like other characters in the series) how cool is that
Honestly Arno not killing Shay (father's killer) or even trying to find out, always seemed like a miss opportunity to me. it could've turned into a great dynamic, him finding out Shay years latter. Like there is like enough space in Arno's lore on which you can even make another game.. same with Conner Kenway. but i guess its another great story point that Ubisoft completely abandoned
@@Kinglon-ls1sn exactly. him driven by Elise's father rather than avenging his own father didn't made sense to me. especially when he gets know later that his father was a assassin as well
@@v-trigger6137 you can say that this game story is written bad cause it makes no sense, bro should've avenge his dad or at least to do something with him, him later realizing that his dad was an assassin was completely useless to arno cause he didn't even show that he care
@@v-trigger6137i mean you have to consider that he was a child he only had 8 years of being raised with his own father before he died and got a new family of which he grew to love as his own i mean facts is he knew a lot more about his adopted father and had more time with them (idk how many of you guys honestly think arno should've cared enough about his father's death that he should hunt down the man who killed him and return the favor instead of idk focusing on the love of his life and the fact that his adopted father who literally raised him as his own son was recently murdered and he was framed for it) like why would he care at all about his real father's killer even when he learned that he was an assassin i don't see how that should make him obligated to care about avenging his actual father because he joined the creed to seek revenge for his adopted father "oh because he's not blood related" sounds really ignorant imo but that's just my 2 cents
Arno's baffling story is why there's been a theory for years that Unity was originally concepted as Connor's sequel. Nothing has come of this theory to confirm or deny it, but the fact Connor, Shay, and Arno, all overlap in locations and characters they meet, but have all never met each other is just extremely bad writing. Even if Unity was always going to be Arno's story, the fact Connor isn't there to avenge the fallen American Brotherhood with Arno's help is just a huge missed opportunity. Hell, don't even need it to be Connor. Even Aveline appearing in Paris _sent_ by Connor would have been interesting. Lame of course since Connor is cooler, but certainly interesting.
Kassandra was born in 458 BC, and the canon time for the ending of Odyssey is 422 BC. (the whole game story stretches for several years, including the main plot, the Atlantis stuff, Cult of Kosmos hunt and the Legacy of the First Blade DLC.) So I'd safely say she was 36 years old when she got the staff, and biologically she was "locked" in a 36 years old body for over 2400 years.
@@LouvreJaramill according to the Wiki source, the First* Blade DLC starts in 429 BC. (SPOILER ALERT) She had her baby, Elpidios, in 425 BC (SPOILER END). But the game's main events still continued to take place.
You can visit the cave Layla sets base in, where Bayek and Aya’s mummies are found, in the Animus and Bayek will note its significance for them. It’s east of Siwa.
I believe there wes a novel which explained in a bit detailed what happened to his later life and how Haythem was converted to Templar and how his daughter sold to slaves
Bruh you forgot about Desmond and Layla, i mean they technically count as assassins and protagonists since we play as them in multiple games, great video nonetheless
Arno likely lived until at least 1822, if we consider Paris Stories as canon. Arno helped Jean-François Champollion retrieve rubbings of the Rosetta Stone, which he then successfully translated in September 1822. Arno lived to at least 53 years old.
The problem with not counting Kassandra and Eivor as Assassins is that it completely unravels the story that was established in the games before Origins. Ezio was told of the most influential members of the Assassin Brotherhood by his uncle when he entered the Sanctuary under the Villa Auditore.
Kasandra probably knocked down any statues of herself or made deals with people to not represent her or she would kill them. In her line of work reconization is a horrible thing. People start hunting her for what she got, means she has to stop doing her job and go kill a shit ton of people to make them stop talking about her. Evior and basim on the other hand are a different story as both were very influential. Atleast with evior if hathem doesn’t tell the brotherhood nobody would know he was even trained. Basim on the other hand was extremely well known and unlike everyone else we haven’t actually got to play let alone see his biggest achievements besides merage and Valhalla. the dude was huge during the fall of the kalifet and the brother revolution (set up to the fall of the golden age of the Muslims) he prity much controlled the whole southern Mediterranean till he dipped off to England. Then again he was also a deserter (technically) and a sage so they probably didn’t want to go talking about him. Also etzios family room doesn’t hold everyone just people who did big time kills. None of those above did big time kills. For their country yes. For the world no. Most protagonists don’t get that achievement. Hell the side characters assassins have more big name kills to their name then our mains. Only real exception is etzio (technically didn’t get Borgia wich would have been his big name) and altier (who also doesn’t get his as Tula did) plus aya who dos and we do get to play as during it but she’s a side character.
It kinda makes sense though, Eivor isn't an assassin , he's an ally of theirs who helped each other when needed . Kassandra existed even before Assassins were formally made , She had interactions with them(as she had a hidden blade in valhalla) but never outright joined them because she was the one who is to keep "The Balance" between The assassins and templars .
It'd be interesting if they made Kassandra a "villian" at some point then, if she's to keep the balance, imagine a setting where the assassin's are finally overcoming the templars and Kass starts cutting them down. Could be a cool story for a DLC or something, seeing as we can't just kill her lol
In Valhalla Bayeks letter to aya is able to be read and he says the codex is spread around the empire of Augustus the roman empire is usually date to 27 Bc mark Antony died 30 bc so so we can assume he lived at the very least to 27 - 30 bc making him at the very least 55.
There’s one missing detail about Connor from Initiates, his latest chronological appearance even after the comic is in Initiates where he invites Eseosa (Adewale’s grandson) to train under him at the Homestead around 1804, when Connor would be about 48.
In ac valhalla, bayeks letter to aya is written way after the events of origins since they have since spread the creed across parts of Europe. And in that letter he says "in my waning years," suggesting he is now an old man, although no official age is given
My head-canon is that Shay did die at 83, at the Norwegian west coast. His killer was Swedish assassin Lovisa, a descendant of the Gylling family who were active during the time of the Swedish Empire. Lovisa also met Arno while supervising Gustav III in France. Again, that's what I want to believe happened.
@@ThePlagueDoctor1490 I haven't thought much about it, but I would like to think he would spend his later years peacefully in Norway and even be buried their. Or he had some business with nordic Templars.
Connor and Aveline's death year and cause are both unkown. The hero's wiki source for Aveline particularly mentioned in the video cannot be traced to any proof unfortunately. :(
A note from Reda in Valhalla was written by Bayek to Amunet sometime later in his life. It mentions how Bayek is in his twilight years and also mentions Augustus' Empire, so we can assume Bayek died sometime after Augustus became Roman Emperor in 27 BC.
2:53 Agreed. Espicially if you where around for those 2 years. Its not quite the same playing them back to back... but beginning in 2009, and ending in 2011, was quite the ride.
Don't forget the entry from the taken down Ubisoft website, "Initiates," that mentions Eseosa, the grandson of Adewale, going to receive training from Connor at the Davenport Homestead around the year 1804. This is the true last documented mention and hearing of Connor, which places him at roughly 48 years old. Also, "the sad and lonely death of Ratonhnhaké:ton" were all lies and propaganda from Abstergo to smear his legacy and reputation.
@@LouvreJaramill He was born in 1756, so Connor is about 40 years old. In fact, he just turned 40 since the story takes place in April, his birth month.
Another awesome video man, the quality of your work is MASSIVE even with the amout of content you put out there, just a curious question.. ¿ Do you have already scheduled, months ahead, the next uploads? if so, until what month you have covered? I'm curious, I have a yt channel of 10ksubs and I upload videos once a week, I have covered the idea for week video until June 2024, you are one of my inspirations to keep growing so im really curious about your workflow. Cheers mate, congratulations on the succes!!!
Hi there, I appreciate those kind words. That means a lot! Honestly, I do not have a schedule or any videos planned. I go with the flow which is not good but I don't really have any ideas. When I upload a video. I'd often think of the next one a day later and then work on it instantly. It's great that you've planned far ahead. I wish I could do that.
The novels Forsaken and Surprisingly the Unity novel delve deeper into Jennifer's story. A genuinely depressing twist they went with it. If you have the time, I'd recommend looking into these.
Yeah like the other guy said, the Unity novel covers Jennifer near the end of her life. Elise runs off to London at one point and she meets Jennifer at the Kenway Manor. Jennifer has grown old and bitter about the Assassin and Templar conflict, being a staunchly neutral party who wishes she was simply a non-party but Assassins and Templars keep bothering her because of her father's and brother's relationship to her. She laments even that her brother was killed by his own son because of the conflict. So what happened to her? She lived on. She didn't want to be part of the story but she has to be, because of her family. It's somewhat meta that she just wants to be left out of the story, but because of her family, templars, assassins, _and fans of the series_ keep "bothering her" and bringing her back into focus lol. I think the point is that she's not a character, she's a prop people keep pretending is a character.
personally, i LOVE the Kassandra immortality thing. if they make remasters, imagine how cool it would be to see her around or maybe even have missions with her!
I think the reason why edward died so young is because he is an afterthought character. After making ac3, somehow ubisoft thought that the idea of a pirate assassin would be fun so they make him playable. Since edward's fate is already sealed in ac3, I would say If edward was "created" before connor, he would have lived longer.
Kassandra’s age should be considered by her biological and experienced ages. Biological she hit a stasis upon receiving the staff, experienced is when she spent centuries functionally as an immortal. Without checking dates I’d say she was in her mid to late twenties when receiving the staff, locking her into that age physically, Rather than the act of passing on the staff inherently being fatal, it locks the body into the physical state including preventing ageing and protecting from radiation. So like a Shroud of Eden. Pythagoras and Kassandra were a long time past their natural life spans, so passing it on did mean death and Layla lost its protection against radiation in the Yggdrasil facility, where it restores Basim’s body to living condition.
I know a fanfic series that explains a sort of head canon that Connor passed away in his eighties and his son, daughter, and later granddaughter carried on his work.
@@beornkhan2736 well he stop being a pirate and became full time assassin worh his crew traveling the world after black flag. Then he himself made it so the templars was entirely cleansed out of england even britain. Yet that kind of man dies early age(one of the earliest death of an assassin character) to two simple bandits, not traitor assasins or something.
Ik it’s said Connor was 4 or 5 when we first play as him but there’s physically no way for me and most others seem to think he’s more along the age of 8-10 years old. Then when Connor meets Achilles it’s said he’s 13 there’s no way he’s 13 goin to meet Achilles 1 connors way too tall to be 13 no thirteen year old is already the size of a full grown man 2 connors voice his voice at the time of when he was “13” he has the voice of a 19 or 20 year old no way a 13 year old would be soundin like a grown ass man. 3 and the reason Connor wasn’t a preteen when he met Achilles Connors clan mother wouldn’t let a 13 year old to up and leave their clan or tribe. And the 4th and final reason connors not 13 is if Connor was 13 Achilles wouldve never trained Connor no one would train a child to be a killer or an assassin it’s more likely that if Connor was 16 or 17 he’d train him then takes like a year or 2 for Connor to get his robes and starts takin down the templars makin Connor around the age of 29-30 when he assonates his father Haytham and Charles lee . Ik this comment is long af but here’s my opinion on the mystery of connors actual age in ac3 hell I could be wrong idk but also ubi could’ve made a few mistakes when writin the timeline of Connors story either way I enjoyed ac3 I wish I still had it to this day but I don’t but fortunately 4 days ago I bought the ezio trilogy and I’m able to finally play ac 2 for the first time it’s so weird playin an ole school ac game for at least 7 years I’ve played all except syndicate that’s my next goal but idk if it’s one xb1 or not and I haven’t seen it in any stores or anywhere
I don't know, by the time i was 13 I was the height of the average male, and my voice was pretty deep, not deep deep, but deep, so I'd say it's certainly possible, and you can clearly tell his genetics make him the beast of a man he is, so I'd say it's fully possible he was like a grown man by 13.
@@James_Randal my guy no disrespect your 82 years old you like a heartbreaker with cheese and a side of German but yea I’m not sayin it’s not possible to look like an adult buy 13 cause I did I’m just sayin that Connor wasn’t as young as we think he is
Yeah thinking about which age is old enough to be ok to pass away is pretty scary 😅 one thing you should not forget is that the average life expectancy increased heavily over the last centuries and it depended on the place you lived in. In the 16th century the average life expectancy was 32 years approximately while it is at 72 years across the globe.
I feel like some died around 60 because considering the time of each period, dying at 60-70 seemed pretty common, cause of the time period. Had no cures for diseases, medicine for wounds/infections... So they prob took some realism with the games as well. But thats just an idea/opinion
I was replaying through brotherhood and I got curious about what the multiplayer looked like, as I had never played it. There was nobody playing obviously but I noticed some characters you can play as have unique hidden blades. There’s one guy who has a sword of scissor hidden blade and then another who wears hers a similar way that Eivor does. I saw your every hidden blade video and it seems those were left out. Could be a cool sequel to it, maybe more multilayer characters have unique hidden blades?
@@James_Randal Brotherhood, Revelations, III and Black Flag all had multiplayer, you would try to mask yourself as an NPC and try to assassinate your target in a selected area if i remember correctly, that shit was really fun not gonna lie lol
Altair also had a first wife (Aya, I think) who was kidnapped and murdered when he was in his early-twenties. Connor Kenway's family was killed by Templars in the early-1800s. Not sure what happened to Connor.
Strange that ubisoft decided to found the hidden ones in the Origins game while they have Iltani as an already established character who's story takes place 200+ years before Origins.
Ill never understand why people hate Evior so much i think Valhalla would be in my top 5 favorite assassins creed games but definitely favorite out of all the rpgs. I dont know why i couldnt enjoy Origins with Egyptian stuff being some of my favorite, and Odyssey is the only game i couldnt finsh the story or the side stuff in. I may have finished it but cant remember it if i did and i definitely didnt do the dlc even though i paid for it lol
We have answers for some Assassin's deaths but not all of them. 65 is considered old in the Renaissance. It would be cool if Connor appeared in AC Unity which would put him in his 30s. I'd like to see him in an Old Western AC but he would be like 80 years old in the 1830s. Aveline has a death date? It wasn't on the wiki when I saw it. If we do have an old western AC game Aveline probably won't appear in it since she died before the Texas Revolution (assuming if the game started there). Execute Order 66. Shay Cormac's death is not mentioned in the wiki. He was still alive when Connor was successfully dealing with things and Shay was in France. Arno could also appear in an old western AC game but I don't know why he would go to America. Connor and Aveline were already pretty close to that area. I didn't really like AC Russia since you were very frail in that game and can easily get one shotted but the other 2 were okay. The one in India can survive a few shots from a semiautomatic rifle but I think a musket can one shot him if I remember correctly. If Arbaaz got to have a game set in the mid 19th century I see no reason why an old western AC wouldn't work. The India game is my favorite one in the Chronicle's trilogy. I'm surprised he doesn't really have a gun except for one mission where he has to use it. Arbaaz lacks a proper birth date. Nikolai has a death date but no birth date. 14:43 69 years. NOICE! I don't count the movie as canon. Kassandra is 2,476 years old. Basim has great taste in modern clothing. So you apparently don't need to hold the staff to be immortal. You just need to be the owner of it.
the thing is, if shay lived that long in canon, that might indicate that he killed Connor? He is heavily involved in the American Templar and Haytham alike and tends to return to America after killing Arno's dad.
Edward doed in his 49a whoch is sad but if you remeber he promised caroline he would only be a privateer for 2 years so he did his best for 2 years clearing a legendary ship like it were nothing but when he retired he left that life behind him and as a result ended up killing him Also its key to remeber AC 4 and rogers/ The Seige was constantly saying a short life and merry one which is literally the purates code so id understand how edward had a fitting death short but full of adventure
@LouvreJaramill ngl u recently played AC4 again, his story was short lived, he needed a decade more, maybe enough for him to become the grand master assassins in England
I hope they make a game where Edward fakes his death and actually dies a lot older - because he's my favourite character and there's no way he could have died to two guys
That would break almost every single part of the lore, unfortunately. We just gotta stay strong and not bawl our eyes out every time we hear parting glass
I liked Eivor, and want to see Kassandra in action again, in WWII, hunting Nazis and Pieces of Eden. But I’d be satisfied with Evie’s granddaughter or something
So what bout Alexios? I played only as Alexios so feel free to let me know if I'm missing anything. Alexios is Kassandra's older brother (if you play as Kassandra does Kassandra become an older sister so Alexios becomes the bad guy a bit later like Kassandra is when Alexios is the main character?) and is born some time before Kassandra considering he's grown up enough to have the strength to knock the person who throws Kassandra off the mountain off along with her. I feel like it may be a case of Alexios's storyline = Kassandra's storyline but I'm not sure.
Totally fine with Kassandra being so old. I mean it's established that in universe Jess was just a guy who had a Piece of Eden and one of his miracles is literally bringing a man back from the dead. Extended Life is really easy to accept in the face of that
I think EIVOR'S name sounds better if you create male version. If they had different names for male and female version of character like they had for odyssey It would sound better In my opinion
edward fell off so hard he went from being able to clear a whole ship at 30 to losing to 2 bandits in his early 40s
Its just sad for me he is the goated character of ac but....
He said he was betrayed by a close friend, in his defense he probably didn’t even see it coming. Plus he was just living peacefully, he didn’t think anyone would be out to get him.
Didn’t they attack him in his sleep
@@pardy0974yeah Birch sent Templars to kill Edward and made it look like a late night home robbery. Haytham killed one of them if I recall correctly
@@IsaiahWyatt-b9glove that mission in Syndicate (iirc) where you have to go through Edward’s mansion. Cool to just have another little piece of Edward lore in the series even though he wasn’t alive.
Fun fact Shao Jun was, in fact, mentioned in Assassin's Creed 3 while Achilles was training connor. Achilles mentions that Shao Jun created the rope dart.
So about Arbaaz son Henry IN AC syndicate
Doesn't Achilles reference the rope dart merely as something from "our friends in China"?
@@wrestlingconnoisseur yes, he said exactly that, idk what that dude is on, he never say her name
@@wrestlingconnoisseurHe does mention Shao Jun specifically in that scene
Altair dying at such an old age is actually impressive considering the period in which he was around had way less cures for diseases and whatnot let alone he was an assassin constantly getting into trouble, also he was stabbed by Al Mualim on top of that.
Well to be fair, he spent all of those years in solitude alone just pondering the apple of Eden, he wasn't exactly doing assassin stuff.
Altair lived the coolest life in my opinion. sure guy's life was miserable, he suffered from such a young age, lost so many of his loved ones. But he also shaped the Brotherhood, created an benchmark for future generations. And when he thought he has done everything, he simply died in a locked chamber. He died by his own choice rather than being killed or backstabbed by someone else (like other characters in the series) how cool is that
@@v-trigger6137not cool, it's greatest and sacrificed
@@James_Randalstill lived a long life,im sure they all had times to relax and be happy
@@lucasdiazjr5679 well Edward didn't live a long life, he was murdered in his 40's.
Honestly Arno not killing Shay (father's killer) or even trying to find out, always seemed like a miss opportunity to me. it could've turned into a great dynamic, him finding out Shay years latter. Like there is like enough space in Arno's lore on which you can even make another game.. same with Conner Kenway. but i guess its another great story point that Ubisoft completely abandoned
Not only that but instead of searching for his dad's killer he searches for someone else completely , Elise
@@Kinglon-ls1sn exactly. him driven by Elise's father rather than avenging his own father didn't made sense to me. especially when he gets know later that his father was a assassin as well
@@v-trigger6137 you can say that this game story is written bad cause it makes no sense, bro should've avenge his dad or at least to do something with him, him later realizing that his dad was an assassin was completely useless to arno cause he didn't even show that he care
@@v-trigger6137i mean you have to consider that he was a child he only had 8 years of being raised with his own father before he died and got a new family of which he grew to love as his own i mean facts is he knew a lot more about his adopted father and had more time with them (idk how many of you guys honestly think arno should've cared enough about his father's death that he should hunt down the man who killed him and return the favor instead of idk focusing on the love of his life and the fact that his adopted father who literally raised him as his own son was recently murdered and he was framed for it) like why would he care at all about his real father's killer even when he learned that he was an assassin i don't see how that should make him obligated to care about avenging his actual father because he joined the creed to seek revenge for his adopted father "oh because he's not blood related" sounds really ignorant imo but that's just my 2 cents
Arno's baffling story is why there's been a theory for years that Unity was originally concepted as Connor's sequel.
Nothing has come of this theory to confirm or deny it, but the fact Connor, Shay, and Arno, all overlap in locations and characters they meet, but have all never met each other is just extremely bad writing. Even if Unity was always going to be Arno's story, the fact Connor isn't there to avenge the fallen American Brotherhood with Arno's help is just a huge missed opportunity.
Hell, don't even need it to be Connor. Even Aveline appearing in Paris _sent_ by Connor would have been interesting. Lame of course since Connor is cooler, but certainly interesting.
great to see you included lore from the other entries than the main games!
Kassandra was born in 458 BC, and the canon time for the ending of Odyssey is 422 BC. (the whole game story stretches for several years, including the main plot, the Atlantis stuff, Cult of Kosmos hunt and the Legacy of the First Blade DLC.)
So I'd safely say she was 36 years old when she got the staff, and biologically she was "locked" in a 36 years old body for over 2400 years.
So the story tales course over 9 years . When the Hidden blade DLC takes place?
She was saldo in Valhalla
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@@LouvreJaramill according to the Wiki source, the First* Blade DLC starts in 429 BC. (SPOILER ALERT) She had her baby, Elpidios, in 425 BC (SPOILER END). But the game's main events still continued to take place.
@@Yungsouzapm yes, because of the immortality and her quest to protect humanity from the ISU artifacts.
You can visit the cave Layla sets base in, where Bayek and Aya’s mummies are found, in the Animus and Bayek will note its significance for them. It’s east of Siwa.
I really wish we had a more in depth look into the later years of Edward's life
Same
I believe there wes a novel which explained in a bit detailed what happened to his later life and how Haythem was converted to Templar and how his daughter sold to slaves
@@v-trigger6137Haytham's journal, perhaps?
@@v-trigger6137 yeah it's Assassin's Creed Forsaken
Bruh you forgot about Desmond and Layla, i mean they technically count as assassins and protagonists since we play as them in multiple games, great video nonetheless
Arno likely lived until at least 1822, if we consider Paris Stories as canon. Arno helped Jean-François Champollion retrieve rubbings of the Rosetta Stone, which he then successfully translated in September 1822. Arno lived to at least 53 years old.
Arno died of old age
Ill Say he's still alive when syndicate takes place in 1868 but very old and wise
@@LouvreJaramill why
@@alejandrocastillolopez6268 it's a bet
@@LouvreJaramill bro I just noticed your pfp💀 what is that xddd
The problem with not counting Kassandra and Eivor as Assassins is that it completely unravels the story that was established in the games before Origins. Ezio was told of the most influential members of the Assassin Brotherhood by his uncle when he entered the Sanctuary under the Villa Auditore.
Kasandra probably knocked down any statues of herself or made deals with people to not represent her or she would kill them. In her line of work reconization is a horrible thing. People start hunting her for what she got, means she has to stop doing her job and go kill a shit ton of people to make them stop talking about her.
Evior and basim on the other hand are a different story as both were very influential. Atleast with evior if hathem doesn’t tell the brotherhood nobody would know he was even trained.
Basim on the other hand was extremely well known and unlike everyone else we haven’t actually got to play let alone see his biggest achievements besides merage and Valhalla. the dude was huge during the fall of the kalifet and the brother revolution (set up to the fall of the golden age of the Muslims) he prity much controlled the whole southern Mediterranean till he dipped off to England. Then again he was also a deserter (technically) and a sage so they probably didn’t want to go talking about him.
Also etzios family room doesn’t hold everyone just people who did big time kills. None of those above did big time kills. For their country yes. For the world no. Most protagonists don’t get that achievement. Hell the side characters assassins have more big name kills to their name then our mains. Only real exception is etzio (technically didn’t get Borgia wich would have been his big name) and altier (who also doesn’t get his as Tula did) plus aya who dos and we do get to play as during it but she’s a side character.
It kinda makes sense though, Eivor isn't an assassin , he's an ally of theirs who helped each other when needed . Kassandra existed even before Assassins were formally made , She had interactions with them(as she had a hidden blade in valhalla) but never outright joined them because she was the one who is to keep "The Balance" between The assassins and templars .
The thing is Kassandra and eivor aren't assassin's especially Kassandra she's more a proto assassin
It'd be interesting if they made Kassandra a "villian" at some point then, if she's to keep the balance, imagine a setting where the assassin's are finally overcoming the templars and Kass starts cutting them down.
Could be a cool story for a DLC or something, seeing as we can't just kill her lol
@@kagenotatsumaki it's lazy writing
In Valhalla Bayeks letter to aya is able to be read and he says the codex is spread around the empire of Augustus the roman empire is usually date to 27 Bc mark Antony died 30 bc so so we can assume he lived at the very least to 27 - 30 bc making him at the very least 55.
Edward did not deserve that bro🤦🏾♂️
The order 66 meme is pretty fitting in the Adéwalé section seeing as how rogue is basically assassins creed’s revenge of the sith.
There’s one missing detail about Connor from Initiates, his latest chronological appearance even after the comic is in Initiates where he invites Eseosa (Adewale’s grandson) to train under him at the Homestead around 1804, when Connor would be about 48.
In ac valhalla, bayeks letter to aya is written way after the events of origins since they have since spread the creed across parts of Europe. And in that letter he says "in my waning years," suggesting he is now an old man, although no official age is given
My head-canon is that Shay did die at 83, at the Norwegian west coast. His killer was Swedish assassin Lovisa, a descendant of the Gylling family who were active during the time of the Swedish Empire. Lovisa also met Arno while supervising Gustav III in France.
Again, that's what I want to believe happened.
Why would Shay be in Norway???
@@ThePlagueDoctor1490 I haven't thought much about it, but I would like to think he would spend his later years peacefully in Norway and even be buried their. Or he had some business with nordic Templars.
Of course it was a swedish girl is that a question??🇸🇪🇸🇪
@@The_Doorg no. We need Swedish Assassins
I would rather believe that it was Connor that brought him down.
Maybe they ended each other.
Another fantastic video!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Hell yeah new Hidden One video
I never really look at supplementary material outside the games, so this is helpful. I never knew when Aveline died.
Connor and Aveline's death year and cause are both unkown. The hero's wiki source for Aveline particularly mentioned in the video cannot be traced to any proof unfortunately. :(
A note from Reda in Valhalla was written by Bayek to Amunet sometime later in his life. It mentions how Bayek is in his twilight years and also mentions Augustus' Empire, so we can assume Bayek died sometime after Augustus became Roman Emperor in 27 BC.
58 years is a good age for him to die
2:53 Agreed. Espicially if you where around for those 2 years. Its not quite the same playing them back to back... but beginning in 2009, and ending in 2011, was quite the ride.
Ubisoft actually can make a good story about Connor and Arno chasing to kill Shay ....
Don't forget the entry from the taken down Ubisoft website, "Initiates," that mentions Eseosa, the grandson of Adewale, going to receive training from Connor at the Davenport Homestead around the year 1804. This is the true last documented mention and hearing of Connor, which places him at roughly 48 years old. Also, "the sad and lonely death of Ratonhnhaké:ton" were all lies and propaganda from Abstergo to smear his legacy and reputation.
And that comic ?
@@LouvreJaramill Reflections? That story takes place in 1796.
@@tairenk.3996 oh ok thx so he was around 30 year
@@LouvreJaramill He was born in 1756, so Connor is about 40 years old. In fact, he just turned 40 since the story takes place in April, his birth month.
Another awesome video man, the quality of your work is MASSIVE even with the amout of content you put out there, just a curious question.. ¿ Do you have already scheduled, months ahead, the next uploads? if so, until what month you have covered? I'm curious, I have a yt channel of 10ksubs and I upload videos once a week, I have covered the idea for week video until June 2024, you are one of my inspirations to keep growing so im really curious about your workflow. Cheers mate, congratulations on the succes!!!
Hi there, I appreciate those kind words. That means a lot! Honestly, I do not have a schedule or any videos planned. I go with the flow which is not good but I don't really have any ideas. When I upload a video. I'd often think of the next one a day later and then work on it instantly. It's great that you've planned far ahead. I wish I could do that.
My assumption is that the characters without a defined date of death are more or less intentional. It leaves flexibility for future stories.
I wish Ubisoft would tell us what happened to Edward’s step daughter. Talk about a plot hole right there.
The novels Forsaken and Surprisingly the Unity novel delve deeper into Jennifer's story. A genuinely depressing twist they went with it. If you have the time, I'd recommend looking into these.
Step-Daughter? Isnt Jenny Edward and Caroline's legitimate Daughter?
No shes not his stepdaughter, you might be confused with her being half sister to Haytham as they offcoarse have diffrent mothers.
Yeah like the other guy said, the Unity novel covers Jennifer near the end of her life. Elise runs off to London at one point and she meets Jennifer at the Kenway Manor.
Jennifer has grown old and bitter about the Assassin and Templar conflict, being a staunchly neutral party who wishes she was simply a non-party but Assassins and Templars keep bothering her because of her father's and brother's relationship to her. She laments even that her brother was killed by his own son because of the conflict.
So what happened to her? She lived on. She didn't want to be part of the story but she has to be, because of her family.
It's somewhat meta that she just wants to be left out of the story, but because of her family, templars, assassins, _and fans of the series_ keep "bothering her" and bringing her back into focus lol. I think the point is that she's not a character, she's a prop people keep pretending is a character.
@@EvilParagon4still She's Edward daughter SO that must be covered
personally, i LOVE the Kassandra immortality thing. if they make remasters, imagine how cool it would be to see her around or maybe even have missions with her!
You forgot Desmond who lived only 25 years. :O
I think the reason why edward died so young is because he is an afterthought character. After making ac3, somehow ubisoft thought that the idea of a pirate assassin would be fun so they make him playable. Since edward's fate is already sealed in ac3, I would say If edward was "created" before connor, he would have lived longer.
Of course
Kassandra’s age should be considered by her biological and experienced ages. Biological she hit a stasis upon receiving the staff, experienced is when she spent centuries functionally as an immortal. Without checking dates I’d say she was in her mid to late twenties when receiving the staff, locking her into that age physically,
Rather than the act of passing on the staff inherently being fatal, it locks the body into the physical state including preventing ageing and protecting from radiation. So like a Shroud of Eden. Pythagoras and Kassandra were a long time past their natural life spans, so passing it on did mean death and Layla lost its protection against radiation in the Yggdrasil facility, where it restores Basim’s body to living condition.
I know a fanfic series that explains a sort of head canon that Connor passed away in his eighties and his son, daughter, and later granddaughter carried on his work.
Connor and Shao Jun from Chronicles are character i felt needed more games following their life.
With Connor we do know that he was referred as old Connor in either the epilogue of rogue or unity I don't remember which
im not even 1 minute in the vid but i would think that this is a good idea
Conner is the best character, fades into legend, myth, like Jeremiah Johnson
Absolutely goated video you said you were in college do you think if you became big would you go full time?
Edward Kenway dying so early and die to 2 bandits is a crime to his legendary character.
But it fits for a pirate
@@beornkhan2736 well he stop being a pirate and became full time assassin worh his crew traveling the world after black flag.
Then he himself made it so the templars was entirely cleansed out of england even britain.
Yet that kind of man dies early age(one of the earliest death of an assassin character) to two simple bandits, not traitor assasins or something.
@@TheRealRealMClovin I know but most pirates died in their late thirties or early forties
@@beornkhan2736 don’t know what that has to do with anything but doesn’t matter since he stopped pirating.
@@TheRealRealMClovin that it is realistic I hope you know what that means
The mark of a true powerful assassin is being such a thorn for the templars that they do everything to kill you
I wish they had given Raton and Arno an interaction with each other considering they were both main-line assassins who lived during the same time.
finnaly mentioned Liberation thank you
Ik it’s said Connor was 4 or 5 when we first play as him but there’s physically no way for me and most others seem to think he’s more along the age of 8-10 years old. Then when Connor meets Achilles it’s said he’s 13 there’s no way he’s 13 goin to meet Achilles 1 connors way too tall to be 13 no thirteen year old is already the size of a full grown man 2 connors voice his voice at the time of when he was “13” he has the voice of a 19 or 20 year old no way a 13 year old would be soundin like a grown ass man. 3 and the reason Connor wasn’t a preteen when he met Achilles Connors clan mother wouldn’t let a 13 year old to up and leave their clan or tribe. And the 4th and final reason connors not 13 is if Connor was 13 Achilles wouldve never trained Connor no one would train a child to be a killer or an assassin it’s more likely that if Connor was 16 or 17 he’d train him then takes like a year or 2 for Connor to get his robes and starts takin down the templars makin Connor around the age of 29-30 when he assonates his father Haytham and Charles lee . Ik this comment is long af but here’s my opinion on the mystery of connors actual age in ac3 hell I could be wrong idk but also ubi could’ve made a few mistakes when writin the timeline of Connors story either way I enjoyed ac3 I wish I still had it to this day but I don’t but fortunately 4 days ago I bought the ezio trilogy and I’m able to finally play ac 2 for the first time it’s so weird playin an ole school ac game for at least 7 years I’ve played all except syndicate that’s my next goal but idk if it’s one xb1 or not and I haven’t seen it in any stores or anywhere
13 years old can be size of full grown men, by then I was as tall as my father
I don't know, by the time i was 13 I was the height of the average male, and my voice was pretty deep, not deep deep, but deep, so I'd say it's certainly possible, and you can clearly tell his genetics make him the beast of a man he is, so I'd say it's fully possible he was like a grown man by 13.
@@James_Randal my guy no disrespect your 82 years old you like a heartbreaker with cheese and a side of German but yea I’m not sayin it’s not possible to look like an adult buy 13 cause I did I’m just sayin that Connor wasn’t as young as we think he is
You'll be surprised how tall an 13 year can get
@@thorodinsson5684yes he was as young
Great video
Yeah thinking about which age is old enough to be ok to pass away is pretty scary 😅 one thing you should not forget is that the average life expectancy increased heavily over the last centuries and it depended on the place you lived in. In the 16th century the average life expectancy was 32 years approximately while it is at 72 years across the globe.
Actually i think ezio's life was the least tragic cause he got revenge on everyone that had to do with his family's killing
👏👏 Beautiful absolutely
Keep video ❤
In assassin's Creed Valhalla you actually meet Kassandra
I feel like some died around 60 because considering the time of each period, dying at 60-70 seemed pretty common, cause of the time period. Had no cures for diseases, medicine for wounds/infections... So they prob took some realism with the games as well. But thats just an idea/opinion
Remember, Kasandra could appear in any assassin's creed game, she defiantly went out and lived life as she is in a modern suit when she dies
I was replaying through brotherhood and I got curious about what the multiplayer looked like, as I had never played it. There was nobody playing obviously but I noticed some characters you can play as have unique hidden blades. There’s one guy who has a sword of scissor hidden blade and then another who wears hers a similar way that Eivor does. I saw your every hidden blade video and it seems those were left out. Could be a cool sequel to it, maybe more multilayer characters have unique hidden blades?
Wait, brotherhood has multi-player? I thought only unity had that.
@@James_Randal Brotherhood, Revelations, III and Black Flag all had multiplayer, you would try to mask yourself as an NPC and try to assassinate your target in a selected area if i remember correctly, that shit was really fun not gonna lie lol
There's still one big Assassin you forgot to add. Desmond Miles.
Another one of Edward's adventures began I believe in 1725 in Macau, as described in AC: The Forgotten Temple.
Altair also had a first wife (Aya, I think) who was kidnapped and murdered when he was in his early-twenties.
Connor Kenway's family was killed by Templars in the early-1800s. Not sure what happened to Connor.
8:40 I believe there is a canon death in comic-book form for Shay. Something about bis son
Strange that ubisoft decided to found the hidden ones in the Origins game while they have Iltani as an already established character who's story takes place 200+ years before Origins.
Ill never forgive ubisoft for not giving ed kenway the ezio treatment and just SHAT on him after a single game
Not only was Ezios family executed in front of him, it was done bt a family friend. Someone he trusted.
Need a like for saying connors real name, very impressed
Haha I tried my best
Amazing video 🫡
He forgot about Darci in Watch Dogs: Legion
19:16
Bro I hollered🤣🤣
I had no problem with Kassandra and her age.
Do you stream
Nope. Should I?
@@TheHiddenOne690 yes I would love to watch and talk to you live
@@TheHiddenOne690yes
Ill never understand why people hate Evior so much i think Valhalla would be in my top 5 favorite assassins creed games but definitely favorite out of all the rpgs. I dont know why i couldnt enjoy Origins with Egyptian stuff being some of my favorite, and Odyssey is the only game i couldnt finsh the story or the side stuff in. I may have finished it but cant remember it if i did and i definitely didnt do the dlc even though i paid for it lol
I hear shay cormac died in 1857 being the third longest living character in assassins creed. Behind Basim and Kassandra.
Conor has been reported in mission 1804 ad in Haiti
I might be the only person to like ac Valhalla also eivor will always be male to me rather than female
What i love is playing AC Valhalla but and I like the male version of the game
We have answers for some Assassin's deaths but not all of them.
65 is considered old in the Renaissance.
It would be cool if Connor appeared in AC Unity which would put him in his 30s. I'd like to see him in an Old Western AC but he would be like 80 years old in the 1830s.
Aveline has a death date? It wasn't on the wiki when I saw it. If we do have an old western AC game Aveline probably won't appear in it since she died before the Texas Revolution (assuming if the game started there).
Execute Order 66.
Shay Cormac's death is not mentioned in the wiki. He was still alive when Connor was successfully dealing with things and Shay was in France.
Arno could also appear in an old western AC game but I don't know why he would go to America. Connor and Aveline were already pretty close to that area.
I didn't really like AC Russia since you were very frail in that game and can easily get one shotted but the other 2 were okay. The one in India can survive a few shots from a semiautomatic rifle but I think a musket can one shot him if I remember correctly.
If Arbaaz got to have a game set in the mid 19th century I see no reason why an old western AC wouldn't work. The India game is my favorite one in the Chronicle's trilogy. I'm surprised he doesn't really have a gun except for one mission where he has to use it. Arbaaz lacks a proper birth date.
Nikolai has a death date but no birth date.
14:43 69 years. NOICE!
I don't count the movie as canon.
Kassandra is 2,476 years old.
Basim has great taste in modern clothing. So you apparently don't need to hold the staff to be immortal. You just need to be the owner of it.
Altair lived that long because of the Apple
the thing is, if shay lived that long in canon, that might indicate that he killed Connor? He is heavily involved in the American Templar and Haytham alike and tends to return to America after killing Arno's dad.
Nope,after killing arno father shay not coming back,and still search for others relic.
Good video but as expected there are some dates that dont line up snd you forgot Layla and Desmond.
off topic, Why does Adewale look oiled up?
What about Lydia Frye which is Jacod's granddaughter and Evie's grandniece? I swear people forget about her.
Edward doed in his 49a whoch is sad but if you remeber he promised caroline he would only be a privateer for 2 years so he did his best for 2 years clearing a legendary ship like it were nothing but when he retired he left that life behind him and as a result ended up killing him
Also its key to remeber AC 4 and rogers/ The Seige was constantly saying a short life and merry one which is literally the purates code so id understand how edward had a fitting death short but full of adventure
Not fitting at all, Edward was and afterthought character
@LouvreJaramill ngl u recently played AC4 again, his story was short lived, he needed a decade more, maybe enough for him to become the grand master assassins in England
@@Unknown-to-you703 yes only if forsaken never existed Edward coulve gotten a better ending
And the dude who killed Edward took hytham under his wing and turned him into to a Templar
Connor is still alive to this day death hasnt earned him yet
The worst part was that they made Kassandra's death meaningless...
I love your video your editing is creative.
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I hope they make a game where Edward fakes his death and actually dies a lot older - because he's my favourite character and there's no way he could have died to two guys
That would break almost every single part of the lore, unfortunately. We just gotta stay strong and not bawl our eyes out every time we hear parting glass
@@LarryTheTugaGamer1511 fair enough, I was hoping I could find a loophole but I don't know much lore
If you want more Edward content, there's a webtoon being released right now, called Forgotten Temple, where Edward is the protagonist
@@esdrasfilipe431 Really? I had no idea
I love assassin’s creed valhalla
I've played some of it... I keep getting distracted by "secondary" tasks
Adewale deserved to live longer than Shay bro,I was so disappointed by his death after freeing his home from slavery.🤦♂️
12:25 Don't you mean early 20th century?
I liked Eivor, and want to see Kassandra in action again, in WWII, hunting Nazis and Pieces of Eden. But I’d be satisfied with Evie’s granddaughter or something
how about desmond?
I'm confused what about Desmond Miles. I mean yeah I get how he died, but he's still an assassin non the less. Right??
So what bout Alexios? I played only as Alexios so feel free to let me know if I'm missing anything. Alexios is Kassandra's older brother (if you play as Kassandra does Kassandra become an older sister so Alexios becomes the bad guy a bit later like Kassandra is when Alexios is the main character?) and is born some time before Kassandra considering he's grown up enough to have the strength to knock the person who throws Kassandra off the mountain off along with her. I feel like it may be a case of Alexios's storyline = Kassandra's storyline but I'm not sure.
There's no difference between them in terms of strength, dialogue, etc. He's just the male version of Kassandra
what a good sir!
Bro completely ignored Layla and Desmond
Hey i share a birthday with the frye twins
the edward one is so disrespectful, like who the fuck believes he lost to two bandits?!?!?!?!
You forgot Desmond and Layla.
guys what AC is haytham in?
You forgot Desmond Miles.
people theorize arno lived till his 90's
I am playing Assassins Creed Rouge, and they mential Conner's death so that might help estimate his death day
Different connor bro 😂,its achilles son.
@@han6528 Thanks, I forgot Achilles named AC3 Conner after his dead son
we need a basim modern day dlc
I think Altair lived till age 127 💀 that’s what I heard atleast
Totally fine with Kassandra being so old. I mean it's established that in universe Jess was just a guy who had a Piece of Eden and one of his miracles is literally bringing a man back from the dead. Extended Life is really easy to accept in the face of that
You forgot Desmond
I think EIVOR'S name sounds better if you create male version.
If they had different names for male and female version of character like they had for odyssey
It would sound better
In my opinion
Eivor is a gender neutral name, meaning good luck, from of course Norse origin.