What Is The Perfect AR-15 Setup?
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What ever I can afford is the best set up
Yup. Train train train brotha.
For real. Buy what you can then train with it.
Yup! Me: new charging handle 😞
To an extent. An air soft optic isn’t going to do you any favors.
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Perfect setup is what works for you, allows you to engage quickly and effectively.
Ditto warbound1 KISS principle (keep it simple stupid) and physical/mental training constantly. Quote for you:
"The novice practices until he can do it correctly.
The professional practices until he stops doing it wrong.
The master never stops practicing"
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Facts brotha
In combat, my M-4 carbine had the PEQ-2 laser, ACOG, extra magazine pouch on the stock, and flashlight. I took the lame gangster grip off. It would get hung up on everything. And a three point sling. I carried that in Afghanistan and Iraq. Worked out just fine. 🇺🇸
@@RosteeveBellier Why do you care what other people do? If they wanna buy military gear and use then that’s their choice. Just buy what works for you and train the way that works for you.
@@chaddking8333 true indeed.
What’s a gangster grip?
One explanation I heard from T.REX was holo+mag for a short range gun that you might want to reach out at distance, and an LPVO for a longer range gun you might want to engage up close.
With the rate of how things are escalating in this country I am slowly turning my go to AR from a red dot home defense setup into a do it all setup. In training having an lpvo and a offset is truly the best way to run an AR for tyrant fighting lol.
Do you know of a good budget LPVO?
Might as well get an acog
I got the cabelas covenant AR on mine, cheaper and does the job just fine.
And this is the reason why I’m here. The world is getting a little scary out there. I just want a setup that works perfectly when the lights go out.
Light, Good Red Dot or Holo Sight, back up irons.
That will do everything you need it to do out to 300 yards unless you're trying to punch single holes in things. In that case, get a different rifle. Not that an AR 15 can't do that, but it would drift so far outside of it's lightweight and handy purpose as to be nearly unrecognizable.
Biggest perk to running dot/magnifier is having the same weapon NV capable. I can kick my magnifier to the side and drop my NODs and go to work in the dark.
If you're not planning on running night vision, LPVOs are probably the superior option.
Or just run a light on your rifle…
@@Chicano_pistolerosays the guy that probably wants NVG
@jbean93 wants? I own two NVG units, it's just not practical for most people and most won't NEED It anyways
@@Chicano_pistolero I’m definitely in the market for some NVG. I don’t think I’ll use them all that much, but it is something I think would be wicked to have
Every round has a lawyer attached to it.... every lawyers first question is how did you identify what you shot.... protect yourself and put a light on your weapons. Train with a light, keep yourself safe and I avoid bankruptcy or jail.
I have to agree with almost everything you said, and some of what you didn't say, BUT....
I will comment that there are good reasons to avoid using "strobe" on those lights that have this "feature" -- strobe sounds like a great feature when you read the ads about how it will "disorient" the bad guy. And it even seems like it might work, when you play around with it in the daytime. The problem comes when you try using it in the dark, especially in a home defense situation. You're right that even a bright light won't blind the user when used properly even in a room with white ceiling and walls, and yes the strobe will partially disorient someone you shine it on, but it will also disorient YOU. One particular problem with strobe in any LE or HD scenario is that it changes your perception of any movement and can make you think there was movement even when there wasn't.
By the way, also on the topic of whether or not your weapon-mounted light is going to blind you _and_ the complaints about aiming a gun where you have not decided to shoot yet, both are solved by using the light and gun correctly. Entering a room in the dark, the gun and light should be pointed upward enough that the gun is pointed over the likely height of anyone in the room and the light is splashed off the ceiling. With any decent light, in the dark you should be able to easily illuminate an entire room splashing light off the ceiling with the gun in something very close to a high ready position. This works equally well with a pistol, carbine, or shotgun. Of course, like everything else in life, it works better with at least some practice.
Vertical fore grip, LPVO, light, 16 inch barrel. Just my preference but each to their own. I just like a well rounded Rifle.
I haven't watched the video yet but I might as well mention my setup since we're probably all comparing anyway.
• Blah blah blah rifle brand they're all the same (Springfield Saint)
•16.5 inch barrel
•Mid-length gas tube
•A2 front sight/gas block
• B5 systems Bravo stock & handguard
• backup iron sight
• streamlite Protac HL-X 1K lumen
• Vortex Strike fire 2 80k hour 4MOA red dot
• Magpul B.A.D. lever
• Magpul shorty foregrip
• Strike Industries King Comp muzzle break
• two point braided sling (made by a local police officer)
I'm getting a free float handguard and an adjustable gas block soon but for now this is the everyday do anything rifle for me. I do CQC and Mid-length engagements with this setup. I am currently getting 1MOA to 4MOA at 100 yards and consistently getting 1MOA to 2MOA at 50 yards with this standard delta ring rifle.
Biggest thing I see people forget. Surrounding area. Examples of what I mean, people shooting pistols in the plains of Oklahoma, and 20" barrels in places you can't shoot past 100 yards. In the Ozark mountains I'm running Radian lower (i am left-handed) and a SOL 13.7 upper with a Superlative Arms piston system with Surefire Closed CTN flash hider pinned and welded giving a legal 16.1, Strike Eagle 1-6x24. It's the plinker, coyote blaster, and premises inspector. Streamlight Protac HL(havent had good luck with the Surefire personally, could be just mine but seems to drain batteries faster) for the dark, IMI 77 grain Razor Core to lay them hard. I'm shooting no more than 200 yards around here, and coyotes are within 75 yards the way our holler is.
Still on team magnifier. I like being able to do all my close range shooting without worrying about eye relief.
For most gun guys, 90% of our collections are just for cool factors. Let’s face it u won’t be carrying 3+ guns wen shtf
Its called the new york reload..
It worked for Burt and Reba from Tremors
@@AgiDaKinG lol
@@AgiDaKinG fuck yeah it did.
I agree...however a serious use rifle isn't out of the question. For shtf, 2 guns, rifle and pistol.
Aero Precision lower, drop in 3lb trigger, Magpul k2 grip, Magpul crt Adj stock, Anderson Arms upper, Palmetto State premium bcg & bolt, Ballistic Advantage medium profile barrel, 5.56/.223 chambered, medium length gas system, steel low profile gas block and stainless steel gas tube, four prong flash hider, UTG premium flip-up back up sights, Cicno 1000lm light w/ 2 way sw, Breek Arms 15” m-lok rail w/ limited pic rail for weight, UTG accuracy scope mount 30mm, Primary Arms 1-6x24 LPVO ACSS retical, Magpul AFG, Magpul MS3 sling, 150 Magpul/ MFT/ military aluminum mags. All loaded. My primary go to. Just one of my set ups. I have seven different set ups. From the primary to mission specific AR’s including my Baghera bull barreled long range 5.56 77gr Anderson Arms AR, 3lb trigger. Wish I could add pic’s. I think you’d like them, but opsec..... I have found that the military issue aluminum mags are the most reliable.
optic, foregrip/handstop, light, and sling. all you need.
I'm a 6mm ARC fan but since it's still so new . My do all be all AR15 is ...
Criterion 12.5" Hybrid Nitride 6.5G PISTOL WITH SBA3 , FCD / C4 11.5" Quad Rail , PLX 1-8× GRIFFIN MIL ACSS , Offset 509T , Modlite OKW , M84 AMBI Large Charging Handle , YHM Resonator K with Kurz Kit , AERO Gen 2 Ambi Controls Lower , Geissele SD3G Trigger , and HSP D3 Sling . I favor BCM Grips , Colt H2 Buffer and Springco Spring.
I choose to go with 6.5G because it's good for CQC and shooting out to 700 yards. Using Black 123g BTHP is pretty devastating 700 yards and in . Once I get the 6ARC finalized and tested. I'm more than likely gonna go with 13.9" with Pinned Warcomp and SF SOCOM 762 MINI II as my do all be all AR15 for 1k yards and in The more and more I shoot 6.5g and 6ARC. The less I even bother with 556N .
Magnifier and red dot still do have a purpose. Just something I will never use ..
You are 110% correct . Sell what you don't need . At one point I had 15 ARs. Now I have 7 super rock solid setup with extra parts . Just remember in your SHTF situation . Your only gonna be able to bring 1 Long Gun and PISTOL with you if your bugging out . Obviously variables for arming other family members..
Bought my first gun in october 2021. Last gun I just got is a budget ar15 lower and upper in 5.56 and a couple duramags. Cost $420 exactly all said and done. Put a cheap scope on it I had layin around for now. Got two .22 rimfire rifles. Savage 62f (3-9x40 AO scope w/see thru rings) and a Henry lever action h001. Ruger wrangler revolver with checkered rosewood grips. Shield plus OR with tritium sights that I put a cheap red dot and streamlight light/laser on. I'm supposed to inherit a bunch of beautiful shotguns and rifles from my deceased grandfather and likely never will due to greedy family.
14.5 with mini can seems to work LARPing around my grandma basement
Disagree that LVPOs make magnifiers obsolete. A red dot or holo is definitely superior for 1x application to an LVPO and a 3x magnifier (or even a 6x magnifier like Vortex makes) allows you to ID a target pretty much up to the 556’s effective range.
I do love my UH-1 and vortex 3x magnifier.
Lpvo are great, but also heavy. Lpvo are pretty much between 24-32 ounces. An Aimpoint or Trijicon red dot + magnifier is 12-14 ounces. Huge difference in weight. Use according to load and mission.
The concept don’t point your gun at anything you don’t intend to shoot, was developed for non defense situations. That’s why they also say treat every weapon as if it’s loaded.
i love my eotech magnifier! i see what you mean about LPVOs but you also have to close 1 eye and dont get the same all around vision with one of those. i prefer the eotech holo and magnifier but thats just me. better for close range while giving you a mid ranged option with more vision with peripherals
I agree with that
You actually don't have to close your 1 eye when running the lpvo at 1x. It's how I run my 1-10 for cqb, and no longer feel the need for an offset red dot.
What I like, M16A2 clone. What's practical, for me, an M16A4 clone with a quad rail and 1-6 lpvo.
The biggest upgrades I did was a HM defense bcg and a spare parts kit in the A2 stock. That's why it's my shtf weapon, for whatever reason it goes down, I have the parts and the tools to get it back up and going, unless a barrel blows or gas tube pops.
Love my DDM4A1 with my Surefire Scout pro light, Troy iron backup’s and Holosun 510G. Good as it gets for me. Vickers sling. I only have use for one AR and also a backup. Up in years now so I still like to play around with different things, but running and gunning at 67 is out. God bless.
I break it down to either CQB or non-CQB. I love my DD M18 Law/tactical with angle foregrip, Inforce light, and Romeo 8 with Wilson Combat Iron sight back up and Magpul adjustable 1/2 point sling. Can't wait to get my DD QD Wave suppressor.
But if it's a do-all rifle, you kinda want it to do both, but it's not going to excel at either.
(Budget set up) Bushnell red dot, around $65 and it’s a very solid red dot. Magpul gen 2 flip up sights, around $87 for the pair. A riser mount to co-witness and you’re good to go as far as sights. I would maybe add a flashlight but for the everyday man who owns an ar for range shooting and self defense this is all you need. Everything else is just for fun. (Not talking about better stocks, grips, etc.)
I know, old vid. But on flashlights for home defense. My father has poor eyesight so his accessories of choice are all sighting systems, but one day he did have to sweep his house, and the flashlight was blinding to him. Even more emphasis on the user preference. Love ya Clint
You know they make scope mounts with picitinny rails on top so you can also mount a micro red dot over any LPVO such as the Burris Optics P.E.P.R. Tactical Scope Mount. You can also simply use a 45 degree mount for a micro dot sight with an LPVO just like you did with your ACOG. If you get a bullet proof LPVO, I see no advantage an ACOG has over an LPVO. For the price of an ACOG, there are plenty of LPVO's that could stand up to some real punishment. If you're stuck on Trijicon, even they offer an LPVO for less than their ACOG fixed power optic. The Trijicon AccuPoint 1-6x24 it the one I've seen. I also prefer a 30mm tube for a magnified optic so I'd probably look elsewhere for an LPVO, but that's just my personal preference.
So, my basic build is for the fight and its my SHTF/Minute Man Infantry build. I want a tool I'm not about building. I want my gun to work and reliable. I want it built to work. This isn't a competition or a fun gun while it can do those as well. Its my amazing jack of all trades but master of none.
Upper is BCM Mk2 14.5 MCMR Enhanced Lightweight Rail with standard weight barrel and a SureFire WarComp Flash Hider. BCM BCG and have the BCM ambidextrous 3x3 charging handle. I have BCM MLOK QD attached as well on the Rail and a BCM MLOK short vertical grip. I also use BCM's MLOK SureFire Scout Mount out front on my rail.
The Lower is also a BCM complete lower but I upgraded the trigger to a Geissele SSA-E. I have the BCM ambidextrous safety selector. I use Lancer Smoke Translucent L5AWM magazines and a Lancer Coupler as well. Yet this only works for the first reload. I use 2 types of Ammo 77 Gr Open Tip Match Black Hills for Defense for the fight small amount for practice and 62 Gr USA White Box range/practice time . This is the ammo I use with all ARs and 5.56x45mm systems.
Sight set up is a little outdated but works for my do it all Rifle. I use Troy HK style tritium back up flip up sights. My main sight is an EOTECH EXPS3-4 with G33 magnifier. I have a PEQ15 but only on it if It is needed.
The other accessories are a Blue Force Gear Vickers padded swivel 2-1 sling. I also have a SureFire SOCOM Mini2 suppressor I can throw on if needed.
On my AR15, I switched from a Romeo 5 Red Dot to a Burris 332 fixed 3X. I love it!
You forgot to mention that the eye relief on the LVPO is so much better than holographic+magnifier combo. If your eye is not up close on the magnifier, you get that pinhole effect
3-9 scope. Bipod. Muzzle break. That fancy stock that can hold a handgun. Best AR setup.
I think unless you are trying to reach out past 200 yds, which unless you are hunting or sport shooting you likely won't ever need to, the need for any more than a magnifier is unnecessary.
Clint, It's a good thing we don't live in Harnett County, the sheriff put a stop on CC renewal and certs bcoz they don't want to have to get close to someone taking their fingerprints. Unbelievable!!!
Then they should extend the expiration date like they did with my driver's license.
That is ridiculous! Our rights are already being trampled on by requiring a permit, and now they just deny it to you outright. Disgusting.
@@magdump_morgan what's even more disgusting is sheriff Wayne Coats is Republican.
That’s crazy!!! These permits and such are just a financial gain for local govts. I get the whole criminal factor and all but I’m no criminal. And the 2A says I can have it so I’ll have it lol
To me the perfect ar setup is an fn15 srp g2 with b5 type 23 grip, b5 enhanced sopmod stock, b5 aluminum trigger guard, b5 we endplate, tango down stubby, swamp fox arrowhead lpvo, geissele buis foldable irons, surefire war comp, surefire socom rc2 556 suppressor, radian raptor charging handle, black radian forward assist, geissele h2 or h3 reliability enhancement kit depending on which works best, radian talon gi safety, geissele ssa x lightning bow trigger, geissele super gas block, surefire m600v scout light, geissele maritime bolt catch, geissele ultra duty mag release, McLean corp sling with the mlok and b5 stock adapters, and a bunch of magpul gen 3 window pmags with green tip 556.
On point! Great advice. My ideal set up is what I have. 11.5 w a light, battle sights, holo sight and an angled foregrip throwing out 77gr bthp. For home defense...😏
Vortex Crossfire Red dot, BCM rail, charging handle, gunfighter mod 3 grip, BCM stubby, Mgpul CTR stock, Vickers 2 point sling, birdcage flash hider, And a stream light on a BCM offset light mount. Internals all mil spec.
Love the shout out to slings! A good sling is always a great addition. I have used many slings but the Edward Sherman sling is the one I will never go without.
For a personal defense AR I like a 10in barrel or less .300blk AR with a suppressor and light/laser on the front. On top to round it out is a 3x sight as my go to, you can cant the sight to see very close ranges. I can engage close range and easily up to 100yds which most engagements in your everyday life will be closer ranges.
My interesting build which only has weight as an issue is a side-charging piston frankenbuild carbine. ACOG and grip and stuff was around 10 pounds total unloaded. Looking for a lighter side-charging upper.
My brand new FN 15 tactical 2 DMR (18 inch barrel and timney trigger setup) weighs too much for me and I haven’t even stuck sights on it. I’m thoroughly convinced that if I have to carry it around a sling, I may be able to carry it , and when I can’t or when I need to move fast, you can lay a gun down with that safety , whereas a pistol should stay on the person for emergency access - I won’t worry too much about weight , but it’s something to keep in mind. Everyone wants a lightning fast setup, but for real world matters, we’re not going to be lugging it for 30 miles like the military does- were using it to protect our own area within 200 yards or more.
I have an m&p sport 15 and its started off looking like the military m4 that yall are raffling off well then i made it look like your colt rifle now its completely rebuilt, the only original pieces of it is lower reciever and buffer tube. Its now a Frankenstein sbr and shoots like a dream. Kinda miss the starting rifle look so it would be nice to win the raffle.
Just bought my first AR this week, M&P 15 sport 2, so far I already put a Magpul stock on it, Magpul grip, quad rail, blue force sling, and a Radian ambidextrous charging handle
My 2 cents, depends on your approach and need.. red dot best suited for he defense, magnifier if you have a large property or want to be accurate at upto 100yds CQB scenario, LPVO & offset is better for hunting or something for self defense if you're out in wilderness. Ones close to mid range, other is mid to close range
The FN M4A1 Collectors clone is PERFECT. Along with Trijicon ACOG, or EOTech EXPS2, or Aimpoint CompM4. Classic M4 profile and setup. Done and done.
It's all contextual.
If I could only have one 'do all' It'd be a 14.5 or 13.7 with a fixed magnification prism optic and canted mrds/irons, 2 point sling, and a solid weapon light, and a vfg.
For 99.99% of engagements joe schmoe is going to get into, your max distance will be like 20 yds so a 10.3 or 11.5, rds, 2 point sling, and a ~500 lumen light is all you'd ever really need.
depending on the environment you live in, for me its my mk18 with my aimpoint and 3x magnifier, modlite plhv2 and I'm good I live in the burbs
I think most people don't shoot out past 300 yards. A magnified scope is handy, but not necessary since an AR shoots flat to 300 yards. It IS handy for target identification at distance.
I’ve put a light, red dot, buis, and sling on my HD rifle which is ideal for that purpose not suited for hunting or competition. So it yes it will do it all but not best choice for all.
I agree Clint , I believe a light/laser needs to be on any defensive firearm!
My AR is equipped with a light/laser , 3x ACSS scope. Also a vertical grip. Although I like a red dot on it instead sometimes.
SIG M400 enhanced with SIG suppressor, subsonic ammo, green laser set at 100 yds, 400 lumen stun light, flip to the side for my thermal, and iron sites. And a thing in the stock which tells time.
SA Saint in 300 Blackout, with Velocity Trigger’s MPC straight with finger stop trigger and trigger guard, Barska 1x35 4 reticle green dot, Barska 45° angled iron sights, 14.5“ match grade 1:8 barrel with pinned and welded 1.5“ nano linear compensator, 15“ free floating quad rail with Strike Industries LINK curved foregrip, 1200 lumen skysted flashlight, Magpul MOE-K2+ pistol grip, and BattleLink minimalist stock is my go to
A surprisingly thoughtful, B.S.-free Classic Firearms vid.
It's appreciated.
I actually am thinking of running stronger power mag with offset red-dot.
That’s how I’m thinking of setting up my first AR. I have many pistols and shoot comp, but I want to get an offset red dot , and offset irons at the 45 degree mark. Seems easier to turn the gun and shoot, then it does to put your secondary hand up to change the sight to 1x, or move the magnifier out of the way. Garand thumb recommends an offset setup and I agree with anything he says when it comes to operator stuff. Dude is the real deal and has actual operator time in. He has a great video on how to setup an AR and I used that as a guide for setting myself up and trying what I like to see what’s the best.
Jon Duncan I’m running an offset dot with a 1x4 power lpvo typically set to 4 power and room clearing is a little uncomfortable over time. I often end up backing my lpvo back down to 1x and dealing with the eye box. I also don’t like the blind spot that is created by my lpvo when I’m using my offset dot. Absolutely requires a decent amount of training to figure out how the setup works for you. All boils down to what the guns for I suppose.
Really depends on your application. Realistically, you wont be aiming in a firefight nor during room clearing.
You don't want to have tunnel vision being in your sights either. You want max peripheral vision.
Getting an LPV that has a close to true 1x with a huge eye box may be the best bet.
14.5 pin and welded mid length gas system, cold hammer forged barrel, front sight post. Add a good light and a red dot. The classic EAG rifle works for me.
I’m building a 14.5. I can’t decide what muzzle device I should get. It will be my do all rifle. So a flash hider, comp, brake?
@@IkfNorCalChamp It depends on what you’re doing with it most of the time. Comp/brake for indoor use is just anti-social.
Perfect for what is the question. I have a PSA-15 pistol with red dot and linear compensator which is perfect for shooting targets at the farm!
Vortex micro 3x is a nice a piece of equipment for your setup. Doesn't take up a lot of realstate!
Eye relief from red dot magnifier combo is alot more forgiving
16" pencil barrel, A2 flash hider, Lancer handguard with their A1 length stock, your favorite pistol grip and buis, 40rd pmag, MRO, and a light
Just jumped into the water with a Diamondback DM15 pistol chambered in 7.62X39. Spent an entire weekend searching for the right gear to add to the pistol (i.e., forward grip--type and maker; sling--1-point, 2-point, maker; optic--yada, yada, yada; etc.). Really appriciated your presentation as it helped to clarify and focus things. Hopefully, now I won't make a poor(er) decision. Thank you!
after owned and tried 1) eotech, 2) MRO, 3) Steiner 1-4, 4)PA 1-6, 5) Steiner DBAL A3, 6) Holosun 507C. I settled with Romeo 5+1.93 mount. Of course flash light and irons. For home defense, nothing is more efficient/reliable/fast than that. Maybe Aimpoint T2 at some point? But im tired of trying red dots, fk astigmatism.
That is correct. I run a multiple set up. Allows me to reach out to short range 300 and holds down CQC as well.
On his Colt, he should put a TLR 1HL in front of his front sight post. The pressure pad is fine where it is.
I like a 1-6x optic on my 16" AR with a 45 foregrip that allows my thumb to activate a light. simple and really effective at short range and out to 300yds
Thanks Clint good video, I needed this video I keep buying new guns instead of completing the ones I have. I live in Cali so I need to get what I can, ugh we need some new leaders. God bless all you guys be safe out there and realize there are a LOT of gun guys where I live, we are all not lost here in CA
BCM 11.5 BFH MCMR SBR, BCM 14.5 MCCR, Daniel Defense 16" M4V7,, Spikes 16" quad rail,, PSA 16" Mlok, all with optics: trijicon MRO, Eotech, Aimpoint, surefire lights, Geisslee super 42's and triggers....blah, blah, blah...
Isn't this like the 4th video like this you've posted in the past month or so?
I have a rifle with a LPVO, that has backup sights. The home rifle has a Red dot, with the backup sights and flashlight.
The magnifier works sooooo much better when the rear sight is removed and the magnifier is moved as far back as possible.
Why so? I'm about to get me a vortex magnifier to match my vortex strikefire 2 red dot sight. Does it make it work better when it's further away from the red dot, or is it just the eye relief?
It is like you mentioned, purely eye relief. The magnifiers have such a small eye relief that the mafnifiers have to be mounted at the furthest rear position.
The marketing photos and TH-cam videos from pretend experts have the magnifiers mounted way too far forward. It is easy to spot, because they have a flip up rear sight behind the magnifier.
Don't believe any "internet" or "TH-cam" expert, just because. Before you go to the range to sight in the red dot and magnifier, see for yourself. What position gives you the best field of view and proper eye relief with the magnifier?
Mounting the magnifier all the way back on the AR will be the best location, but see for yourself what happens when the magnifier is mounted forward enough to use a flip up rear sight. That is where people negatively comment that the eye relief is too short for the magnifiers. If a magnifier is used, the flip up rear sight has to be removed.
That may require 45 degree offset sights, a MI flip up rear sight in front of the red dot with the large hole, or ditching a backup sight.
Thanks for asking the good question, why.
@@johnphillips222 they Maj long eye relief 3x I have one on my 12.5 with a Eotech works pretty decent.... I use holographic on my 12.5/10.5 and LPVO with a offset red dot/green dot on 16”.... QCB VS RECCE
My opinion for perfect setup would have a 15" handguard. The setup would have a simple red dot, a set of Mbus Pro iron sights, and a USGI sling with QD attachments. It is important to keep the weight down and thus I would not put anything more on the rifle if I can avoid it. The 300 AAC in a 16" barrel is a good start point for short to medium range. An 18" barrel with a Wylde chamber is a good start point if you use the 5.56x45.
I'm a huge fan of my 10.5" 7.62x39 pistol with a dot and 5x magnifier. It's zeroed for 200 yds. Side charging, H3 buffer and an under mounted flashlight/IR combo.
It's the most versatile weapon I own.
Right now, I'm running an Ar pistol with a 12.3 Ballistic Advantage Hanson performance series barrel with 10" bcm kmr rail, afg2, arisaka 600 series scout light on a Hayley strategic mount and a holosun 403b. It is a fairly light, compact weapon with alot of potential. I'm hoping to get some 100-200 yard shooting in soon.
Also waiting on a Dead Air Nomad right now, that will primarily live on this rig
Slings and flashlights are the hardest ones for me to make myself do... I always lack on those accessories for my collection
I think you just made the case that magnifier are not obsolete and may be the best setup. Most people need a simple red dot for most applications. Then add the magnifier for other situations. The red dot is not taken over by lpvos.
A "do all rifle" my pick would be a 16in free float with a 1-8x scope.
All of the arguments against flashlights are from dudes who don't use guns for work.
1. I've pointed my gun at lots of people that I ended up not shooting.
2. If your light is bright enough, the only thing the other guy sees is a wall of light.
3. Don't blind yourself. That's dumb. Don't do that.
I want them to see a wall of light and now know where to shoot, and I want to control the light in a bad situation. I want to be the light controller at that point. If I don’t like it - there is a switch to turn it off. Guys who say this in my area, are guys that can’t afford any extra gear , and want to justify it to THEMSELVES - and they usually seem to also be the same guys who don’t see “why anyone would ever need a fancy sight on an AR when the iron sights work just fine!” And they are pretty much running a giant polymer hand guard from the 80’s, don’t believe in mLok or keymod, and don’t watch anything on the gun channels (or they’d see tons of people running lights and red dots and even lasers... oh my gosh lasers?!?!?!!) lol. They don’t like change , because they can’t afford it, and that’s not their fault or even a problem , however they try to emulate their own shooting style as the right way, and they tend to disagree with anyone who has anything that they can’t afford or can’t run on their guns because their wife will divorce them if they buy anymore Gun gear (to preface this I should have added that I live in the Bay Area- most liberal of the liberal places on earth and if you say the word gun in public you can get locked up as a threat to society for even thinking about gun models or parts. If we try to get ammo, it’s illegal unless we pay extra money to the state each time at a dollar amount. Don’t worry Ca, I’m writing this from a free state , and I wouldn’t dare talk about guns in Ca (wink ).
@@Mistro07 flashlights dont weigh much though
@@Mistro07. 4oz isn’t going to make or break me on a hike
@@Mistro07 in full kit with an assault pack, I didn’t a few ounces from a light.
LPVOs are great but not always better than red dot/magnifier or acog. Those fixed optics with be a hell of a lot clearer and faster than LPVOs.
I like both setups but there’s different scenarios for each. LPVOs might but the best all around but jack of all trades master of none. Good at everything but great at nothing. Acog or EO Tech and magnifier definitely are great at what they are designed for.
Granted I do like LPVOs are going in the right direct. Like larger tube diameters, 34mm, on the vortex 1-10. It allow more light in and makes a clearer image and more generous eye box. I would like to see a LPVO in an elcan optic size and shape.
I have a 13.7 pin and weld surefire muzzlebreak with surefire blast diffuser, aimpoint t2 with a g33 on the back, running a modlite okw with a zenitco green+ laser and a bunch of magpul furniture lol.
I have a 18", 14.5", 10.5". They all serve a purpose and are purpose-built.
Man that PWS pistol is awesome.
The problem with the LPVO is that you're stuck with a 1.5 lb on top your gun. With the magnifier I can just lighten the gun by taking it off with the quick release.
If your sights take a hit, your optics are the least of your worries
5:40 Hard2Hurt, TH-cam's resident self-defense guy, said the way he illuminates things without flagging them or blinding himself is by pointing the light at the ceiling.
Thank you for your service Mr. Morgan! First video and now following your channel. Thanks for laying out all the different options.
I just wanna say thx for producing a video everyday. I watch pewtubers at work. Your always there when i run out of new content.
Keep up the good work.
I don't think there's any one "best" setup for an AR, but the fewest accessories that will give the most versatility are as follows.
Start with a 16 inch barrel, make sure it's reliable, and then a 1-6 LPVO, a white light, and an inexpensive IR laser unit, and the rifle can do anything from 5yd out to 500 during the day, and out to 300~ish at night with either white light or NV if you wanna be sneaky beaky.
@@mail-qh2qc I'm not concerned about adding too much extra weight, I just don't see the need for hanging 8lbs of accessories that I don't need on my rifle. And batteries, the only things I listed that require batteries are the light and IR laser, the LPVO can likely accept a battery for use in low light, but it is not a requirement.
I would rather have the weight that I save from not having 42 different attachments/accessories be used to carry extra ammo, especially in a shtf situation, no one has ever said "crap! I brought too much ammo!" In a gunfight. Besides, aside from what I listed there's nothing else I need on my rifle, some type of grip on the rail can be a nice addition, but isn't a necessity. Quality light, IR Laser, and optic, back-up irons are not an accessory, they are critical (in my opinion mandatory) on a fighting rifle, as is a quality sling.
Not really trying to argue per se, just explaining my thought process behind building a well-rounded duty rifle.
9" 300 BLK, light, UH-1, BUIS. Suppressor sometime in the future.
My current set up is a Vortex strike eagle 1-6 LPVO with a canted Vortex razor red dot. I am currently switching to a closer range setup with a new build. It is going to use pop up magpul irons with a meprolight M21 as an optic. I will also be getting a surefire light with a pressure switch as well.
How do you like the strike eagle? I’m debating about getting that or getting a Romeo 4 or 5 with a magnifier. What do you think?
@@blakenovinsky1387 I would just stick with a LPVO with a canted red dot. I love my strike eagle, it does awesome.
@@soldier4Jesus15456 that’s what I was thinking cause a Romeo 4 with the Juliet 4 is alike 760 at that point might as well get a strike eagle
Do you like first focal plane or second better. Personally I’m new to shooting so I feel like first focal plane is better for me because it’s less thinking since the reticle works on each power vs the second where the reticle works only on full power. And like I also have good eyesight which makes first focal plane more tempting. I can’t remember if the strike eagle is ffp or sfp
But what do you think?
Black panther dpms ar15 with bipod, aug 4x scope, brass catcher, a 3 point sling
You really love showing off your MK18
I probably wasted more money trying to set up one do-it-all AR than I did just building another AR and setting the two of them up differently. Each is simpler, lighter weight, and set up specifically for a different purpose.
Thanks, I always watch your videos for advice!
Remember guys, build it for the rule, not the exception.
I have 1200 lum light and some white walls, works fine except it kinda blinds out my optic, but I just hit it the momentary a few times, if you are worried about being blinding WEAR SHADES WHEN YOU SLEEP
LVPO with offset red dot covers it all
0:50 yes.. yes it’s necessary
Relatively new subscriber for a couple weeks now and watched hella videos from you. Love the content! Keep it coming. Always solid info from here. The shot show content is A1 too.
The one fits you and the task.
I like Aimpoints, even with the front lens cover down, you still have the dot. I prefer that for HD setup, with a Modlite 18350 body, and a Surefire DF Scout head. IF I ever had to go outside with that, I own a 3x, I keep it with some gear.
I have the one that suits most of what your looking for. Its in 6.5 Grendel and uses a 12'' barrel. It's light compact and very deadly out past 300 yards. Your agility and confidence is very high with this much fire power to be able to punch through cars and combat in close courters. As scopes go I use a HE510C-GR from Holosun. You may not like the Grendel due to the lack of ammo. But that's your problem not mine.
I love current set up got mbus metal backup sights on 45 offset with a vortex prism 3x stream light and magpul ms1 sling