Learned a lot in 25 minutes. Had a mostly similar setup, but gonna make some tweaks now. Jim thank you for your service and thank you for helping out us knuckleheads!
Yeah I use the magazine as my vertical, I don't do lasers and my scope has a zero magnification setting making it a red dot. I tend to adapt my tactics to the equipment and not the other way around.
Like Jim's insights of how and the why he builds like he does. Liked his explanations about what he's incountered in the practical applications of each component. Enjoyed yall having him on to show and demonstrate for us.
I have had this rifle for 2-years now with a little over a thousand rounds now. A simple Romeo/Juliet and a cheap Vortex Venom 1-6x24 from time-to-time have done just fine on it. The only internal change has been a Super 42 with its H2. Puts rounds where they are supposed to go every time, and no malfunctions yet. Built rock solid, people can say what they want about a $500 gun, but shoots the exact same as some big names on my range.
This is a good example to show legislators what a "silencer" or suppressor actually sounds like on an AR-15, not silent in the least. It is less ear piercing, slightly less deafening.
Great video ! Loved how you guys picked Jim’s brain about what he would put on an AR style platform to make it “battle ready”. Jim, than you for your service !
You can just tell how professional Jim is. Quiet, composed, witty, and a true badass! I can tell he’s quite a leader and instructor. That man is more dangerous with a $300 rifle than I’d ever hope to be, even with a loaded out KAC! Awesome information and food for thought on setting up our rifles…
You can tell he's an OG because of how he utilizes the foregrip. Gripping the whole thing vs how most folks nowadays use it like more of a handstop. Whatever works for you, more power to ya.
He is pretty short and I think he doesn’t have the reach for a good balanced grip around the handguard ”handstop” grip or whatever it’s called in english (not my main language)
Guys pls learn personal spacing 😭 he’s visibly leaning away from Kaya the entire video. Uncomfortable to watch at times, but great value here all the same.
Might it be that after so many years in Seals he's not good and being 'too close', physically, to anyone? Perhaps he habitually leaves room as 'options'?
Kaya:' Longer on many other stuff'. Senior Chief: 'Yeah but skinnier'! Then the frontal look and a smile!!! A damn United States Navy Sailor! I am proud to have served the worlds finest service with you too senior chief!!!
@@greggbates7562 Roger that! I just went by what they said here on the channel on the time he spent and I assumed he's a Senior Chief. Yet, thank you for the correction.
I was always taught to touch my nose to the charging handle for cheek placement. That also allows for the scope to move forward on the rifle, leaving room for your iron sights. So I adjusted my butt based on where my nose comfortably touches the charging handle. No need for tape.
No thats a SOLID tactical rifle with solid tacics. Never been a foregrip guy, have several but they all came off after a while. BUT the muzzle2chin makes a whole lotta sense. Luv it thanx Chief!
My favorite type of videos, What the Pros Use. As a Deputy Sheriff I qualified with a Colt M4, with an Eotec and iron sights.(when they took the Eotec’s off)
Great input from a pro! I personally love my mk18 but also love my 16'' ARs. Definitely is always interesting to see all the different ways people set up their rifles with their specific preferences.
“Budget friendly”. That made me chuckle. That LPVO is more than the rifle, let alone both optics. But I do like it. I only run a flashlight on my builds, as I don’t have a need for IR or a laser. I do really like the goon tape wrap idea for the wires. I don’t know why I didn’t think of that for mine. I snaked tiny zip ties all through my handguards to tuck the light and switch wires down.
to be fair you can get a cheaper lpvo and red dot and run a similar optic setup. about the only things you couldnt do more budget friendly are the suppressor and laser pack
I’m still team 45 offset red dot, but I get the appeal of top mount. To me, tilting my rifle feels more natural and less disruptive than lifting my head.
I would be interested in hearing from a more diversified group of Special Operators like Delta, Green Berets, Marine Raiders (MARSOC), Rangers, Air Force Special Warfare, even Coast Guard Special Operations besides just SEALs. Can we get some of those guys in future videos?
I totally agree. I respect seals but what I don't want the content to become as just another run as seal themed channel. I mean I know that there is a whole slew of special operators and seals aren't the only ones that exist with pro tips. I really would like to hear some diversified opinions.
i bought that rifle couple days ago for $379. very very happy and impressed with what i got. I like the B5 furniture as well and o didnt have to do anything tonthe rifle. Sig saur Romeo red dot, forgrip and she was running at the range, out the box.
All respect to Jim thank you for your service. I recently purchased a 2.5- 10x40 combo laser red- green all in one unit for my AR platform. Wondering if anyone has any valuable feedback on this set up. It feels a bit heavy but the weight distribution is on the receiver. Any feedback. I’m not an expert just learning from these videos
i love the fact that you guys leave the malfunctions in your vids with the shooting parts a lot of You-tubers with firearm pages cut them out as they don't want to be seen with them. its important for people to see that there are issues even with fresh built guns that have to be worked out.
I find it interesting he runs his sling connections on the same side of the rifle, I’ve always run the sling on the opposite side of my cheek weld, I’m a lefty so it’s backwards from most people.
Instead of a earpro as a cheekweld aid, I use a small circular scotch felt pad because you can just stick it on to buttstock with no tape and the felt texture is easily detectable in low or no light condition.
The Seal cleared the weapon with his muscle memory. Slow it down and watch, yall handed it to him uncleared and his second nature was to talk and clear the weapon. What a man.Nice build, Great warrior, thanks for the life of service so my kids can have a country to live it.
If you read The Ranger's Apprentice than Mr. Jim Forman would be the modern Halt. I like how Mr. Foreman clears the weapon as a first thing, when he got it back. Safety first :-).
Malfunction at 22:24? Can see what looks like part of the bcg stopping half way in the ejection port or is it just me ? Would have liked to have seen that and the cause stay in the video if so
Cool setup, I liked the tape and the foregrip close enough. However, the LPVO, sitting far back, smells like trouble when you need to access it if a round jam. Sure, everyone has their own way of getting around things. Maybe setting a rifle in a way that is practical for anything and being able to access all necessary parts to avoid weird circumstances. That would work for me.
Nice. Mine is a 14.5 bcm mcmr with a surefire warcomp. Bcm furniture, PA gen 4 nova, magpul afg, geiselle ssp flatbow, radian raptor charging handle, magpul afg, and a cloud defensive rein 3.0. Also magpul sling
I love the fact that every step of the way he made sure his weapon was going to be efficient in any circumstances. Not about the looks but about “getting the job done” when a threat is imminent !!!
I run the same setup except I use a Grippod LE and a red dot with 5x magnifier. Then again, I’m not typically engaging combatants at 700 meters. I keep my shots to 400. 500+ is what the sniper is for. Save my ammo for things the sniper isn’t set up for
Commander offers great logic and insight here. Curiously, though I have little military training like he does, my AR is set up pretty similarly. No PEQ on mine though...
Every 6 months I had to qualify in MOPP 4. Still managed to shoot Expert due to canting my head & keeping the sights level. I can attest to Jim's preference of not offsetting sighting systems.
great vid, I learned a lot! for me it wasn't what he added, but that he had a specific reason for it and where it needed to be placed! also his priorities of the optics over the other accessories
Just for the record your average gun tuber gets more range time than a Navy SEAL. They spend most of their time on tactics, PT, and mission planning. I know they started shooting more but you would be surprised how little they actually shoot.
That's interesting because when Richard Marcinko started up Seal Team 6 their annual expenditure on ammunition was more than the entire marine corp for a year according to him. So it is surprising they have fallen off shooting that much.
Even better than WHAT he shared is the WHY behind his decisions/preferences. Now everyone can adjust accordingly based on their own preferences/situations.
Full respect to the SEALs and all military members! Unpopular opinion: I've never understood why the average joe wants to set up his defense rifle like {insert SO branch of .mil} for their own use. There are only a few people who go into the types of situations that SO does. And you might be surprised to learn that they're actually SO. The average joe isn't SO. So why set up a rifle for SO work, when you're never going to do SO work? That said, more power to ya! Spend that dollar on the high speed gear so it can sit comfortably in the safe.
Our first patrol rifles were Colts. They were only about 700 bucks at the time. An EoTech was 500 and a decent light was 300. Also never put a cheap optic on a rifle.
Mounting your top dot on the front helps to see your turret if you have a good optic for dialing. If you run a bdc, it might not matter so much to you.
I have an Lpvo but never thought of putting the red dot on top. My canted irons work well. Granted I do have to aline the sights with the top of the barrel I don’t mind it
As long as you keep the height the same on your lpvo and offset red dot then it’s as simple as rolling the rifle in your shoulder. You shouldn’t have to move your neck or head like he was saying. If anything you’d have to move your head with a top mount other wise you’d be aiming lower on target when you drop rifle to see through red dot.
My HD rifle has a mini 1.5x mini acog and a light. 11.5 barrel. My recce rifle. (By recce I mean shooting stuff at the range lol) has a 4x acog. 16inch barrel. Has ability to mount an rmr at 12oclock.
I like how Jim took the rifle from them and cleared it....lmao
Yeah that’s literally what i was focused on
And literally demonstrated a CqC head check lol
LOL I noticed that too.
I noticed that too.
good minds think alike
Learned a lot in 25 minutes. Had a mostly similar setup, but gonna make some tweaks now. Jim thank you for your service and thank you for helping out us knuckleheads!
Anyone in the military hopefully noticed that he was the only one to lock the bolt back and clear it as soon as it touched his hands creature of habit
You’re gay dude
The b5 bravo is the smaller one without the tubes. The bigger one is just the B5 enhanced sopmod. If you're looking for it online.
Correct glad someone else sees that
Literally came to the comments to see if anyone else caught that lol.
Thank you Sir
Thank you!
I went to bravo to see this stock had a cheaper version long time ago makes a lot of sense will be buying that stock yes the sopmod one
I love this guy. Simple and complex for your situation.
I like how they put $5000 of stuff on a $500 rifle. 😂😂😂
Kinda like fancy rims and a body kit on a 1998 Honda Civic 😂
Yeah I use the magazine as my vertical, I don't do lasers and my scope has a zero magnification setting making it a red dot. I tend to adapt my tactics to the equipment and not the other way around.
What make a great rifle is a BCG and the Barrel the rest is cosmetics that's if you know anything about rifle .
10 of the rifles for the attachments they put on it lol
One of my best builds is like that. BCM, FN, Geissele parts on PSA recievers. Some things are totally fine to keep mil spec and be reliable af.
Not Kaya forgetting to clear the rifle... Commander took it and did it for him 😂 keep up the great work fellas
I thought I was the only one that noticed 😂
Range safety, noticed this as well. Looks like he ejected a round after removing the clip.
@@dewaynejones1306 Magazine, clips are for chips!
the reaction on his face after he clears it lmaoo
@@dewaynejones1306it’s a magazine
Like Jim's insights of how and the why he builds like he does. Liked his explanations about what he's incountered in the practical applications of each component. Enjoyed yall having him on to show and demonstrate for us.
We've got some round in there obviously...Jim casually clears the gun.
Looks good, who am I to argue with the Wisdom of a 27 Year SEAL Team Vet! Everything he said makes perfect sense!
I have had this rifle for 2-years now with a little over a thousand rounds now. A simple Romeo/Juliet and a cheap Vortex Venom 1-6x24 from time-to-time have done just fine on it. The only internal change has been a Super 42 with its H2. Puts rounds where they are supposed to go every time, and no malfunctions yet. Built rock solid, people can say what they want about a $500 gun, but shoots the exact same as some big names on my range.
False
This is a good example to show legislators what a "silencer" or suppressor actually sounds like on an AR-15, not silent in the least. It is less ear piercing, slightly less deafening.
that shits still loud lol
O🎉😂🎉🎉o😅🎉 😢
Great video ! Loved how you guys picked Jim’s brain about what he would put on an AR style platform to make it “battle ready”. Jim, than you for your service !
You can just tell how professional Jim is. Quiet, composed, witty, and a true badass! I can tell he’s quite a leader and instructor. That man is more dangerous with a $300 rifle than I’d ever hope to be, even with a loaded out KAC! Awesome information and food for thought on setting up our rifles…
exactly , dudes a beast u can tell lol.
Yep
You can tell he's an OG because of how he utilizes the foregrip. Gripping the whole thing vs how most folks nowadays use it like more of a handstop. Whatever works for you, more power to ya.
Well there are a whole lot of OG's that prefer a different grip.
I prefer the handstop grip. I like pullng it into the pocket and it feels more stable to me. To each their own tho.
@@The_Nameless_Entity Same
He’s also chicken winging
He is pretty short and I think he doesn’t have the reach for a good balanced grip around the handguard ”handstop” grip or whatever it’s called in english (not my main language)
23:40 shows how of a pro Jim is, quick to clear it before getting comfortable in the middle
Yep. Only one to make sure one isn’t chambered
Or maybe it shows how much of a control freak he is, he obviously meant to keep the rifle loaded until Jim just took it from him.
This was the best set-up options and philosophy video I have seen on an AR-15. Great work, great guest, smart info. NICE!!!
Guys pls learn personal spacing 😭 he’s visibly leaning away from Kaya the entire video. Uncomfortable to watch at times, but great value here all the same.
I agree with this but he could also be leaning like that so he can talk to the guy because he’s the main one he’s talking too 🤷🏻♂️
Might it be that after so many years in Seals he's not good and being 'too close', physically, to anyone? Perhaps he habitually leaves room as 'options'?
Kaya:' Longer on many other stuff'. Senior Chief: 'Yeah but skinnier'! Then the frontal look and a smile!!! A damn United States Navy Sailor! I am proud to have served the worlds finest service with you too senior chief!!!
🇺🇸 rah
Command Master Chief actually.
@@greggbates7562 Roger that! I just went by what they said here on the channel on the time he spent and I assumed he's a Senior Chief. Yet, thank you for the correction.
There are people that looks like they know what they talking about and then is this guy . Respect.
Always great to get the insight of the ones who have actually lived through SHF situations. Love it!
See at the end Jim cleared the weapon and the other 2 passed it around live with the safety on....pay attention to what the professional does.
I could tell the seal wanted to grab the gun and make sure it was unloaded asap after the last guy shot it and didn't check it.
The look he gave em too 😂🤣
I was always taught to touch my nose to the charging handle for cheek placement. That also allows for the scope to move forward on the rifle, leaving room for your iron sights. So I adjusted my butt based on where my nose comfortably touches the charging handle. No need for tape.
Hey i give it to you boys for not questioning this seal😂. We can see it in your faces😂.
No thats a SOLID tactical rifle with solid tacics. Never been a foregrip guy, have several but they all came off after a while. BUT the muzzle2chin makes a whole lotta sense. Luv it thanx Chief!
Another reason for a foregrip is because those handguards can get very hot once you start getting into the gun.
Jim was like “Get me the Fck outta here.” 😂
My favorite type of videos, What the Pros Use. As a Deputy Sheriff I qualified with a Colt M4, with an Eotec and iron sights.(when they took the Eotec’s off)
Pros wouldn't use a cheap trashy radical firearms weapon. They'd go for LMT, LWRC and KAC etc.
@@jamessavent3636 literally nobody cares lmao you sound pretentious and dumb.
That's my grip, too. 32 years military. My son in military adopted the new grip. That's okay... whatever works for you
Love the way Jim spits out all the info in very few words.
My buddy is a SEAL and I've worked with several throughout the years. I swear these dudes speak in PowerPoint.
Great input from a pro! I personally love my mk18 but also love my 16'' ARs. Definitely is always interesting to see all the different ways people set up their rifles with their specific preferences.
“Budget friendly”. That made me chuckle. That LPVO is more than the rifle, let alone both optics. But I do like it. I only run a flashlight on my builds, as I don’t have a need for IR or a laser. I do really like the goon tape wrap idea for the wires. I don’t know why I didn’t think of that for mine. I snaked tiny zip ties all through my handguards to tuck the light and switch wires down.
to be fair you can get a cheaper lpvo and red dot and run a similar optic setup. about the only things you couldnt do more budget friendly are the suppressor and laser pack
I’m still team 45 offset red dot, but I get the appeal of top mount. To me, tilting my rifle feels more natural and less disruptive than lifting my head.
I agree
Was 45 offset until night vision shooting
@@sasquatch673 ah yeah, I have not done that yet. That’s good info to think about when I get there.
Get a larue ring mount. You can spin that thing at any angle. Currently on sale at PA
I love the 45 offset with the TREX mount that they made. Its a little taller and is perfect when I rotate it. Slides right into my view.
Always enjoy learning more. And using suggestions. Thank you. I'm in
I would be interested in hearing from a more diversified group of Special Operators like Delta, Green Berets, Marine Raiders (MARSOC), Rangers, Air Force Special Warfare, even Coast Guard Special Operations besides just SEALs. Can we get some of those guys in future videos?
I totally agree. I respect seals but what I don't want the content to become as just another run as seal themed channel. I mean I know that there is a whole slew of special operators and seals aren't the only ones that exist with pro tips. I really would like to hear some diversified opinions.
Jason is smart. Always keep a side arm when going to the range.
Super badass! Y'all should give this one away as Jim built it and have him sign the rifle. Subbed!
optics cost more than my entire build. Jim's info is better than 20 videos. Learned a lot.
That’s usually the case. Most recommend not overspending on a rifle and sinking money into good optics.
i bought that rifle couple days ago for $379. very very happy and impressed with what i got. I like the B5 furniture as well and o didnt have to do anything tonthe rifle. Sig saur Romeo red dot, forgrip and she was running at the range, out the box.
All respect to Jim thank you for your service. I recently purchased a 2.5- 10x40 combo laser red- green all in one unit for my AR platform. Wondering if anyone has any valuable feedback on this set up. It feels a bit heavy but the weight distribution is on the receiver. Any feedback. I’m not an expert just learning from these videos
20 years leading Seal Team 6 = BEAST
Love the build and that’s a sweet gun. Would you please put in the description for all the items you use to build the gun.
I second that
Thanks Senior Chief and thanks guys!
Learned a lot thank you for your service Mr. Jim 🇺🇸 🦅
i love the fact that you guys leave the malfunctions in your vids with the shooting parts a lot of You-tubers with firearm pages cut them out as they don't want to be seen with them. its important for people to see that there are issues even with fresh built guns that have to be worked out.
I find it interesting he runs his sling connections on the same side of the rifle, I’ve always run the sling on the opposite side of my cheek weld, I’m a lefty so it’s backwards from most people.
Surprised me they didn't address a trigger upgrade. I'd expect the gun has stock mil parts. Timney or Geissle?
love how kaya mention always for defense, never offense.
I dig that he's cool on tape and "make it happen however" style. trex can take his nose in the air stuff and kick it down the road
Instead of a earpro as a cheekweld aid, I use a small circular scotch felt pad because you can just stick it on to buttstock with no tape and the felt texture is easily detectable in low or no light condition.
Good info and the WHY. Thank you Sir
Thank You Jim and fellas.Learning from a Jedi is priceless 🧠🇺🇸🥷
The Seal cleared the weapon with his muscle memory. Slow it down and watch, yall handed it to him uncleared and his second nature was to talk and clear the weapon. What a man.Nice build, Great warrior, thanks for the life of service so my kids can have a country to live it.
If you read The Ranger's Apprentice than Mr. Jim Forman would be the modern Halt.
I like how Mr. Foreman clears the weapon as a first thing, when he got it back. Safety first :-).
Great explanation and kit!Safety first with the post clearing of the weapon before handing it off!
I like the practical approach from the former seal
Learning from the best, mainly from the guest. I'm new to this so anything I can learn works for me. AWESOME VIDEO 👍
Malfunction at 22:24? Can see what looks like part of the bcg stopping half way in the ejection port or is it just me ? Would have liked to have seen that and the cause stay in the video if so
Same, but continue watching and maybe a lubrication issue...or lack there of.
Cool setup, I liked the tape and the foregrip close enough. However, the LPVO, sitting far back, smells like trouble when you need to access it if a round jam. Sure, everyone has their own way of getting around things. Maybe setting a rifle in a way that is practical for anything and being able to access all necessary parts to avoid weird circumstances. That would work for me.
That mid mount for the sling also gives better clearance for transitions if youre a bit wider and/or around gear
Nice. Mine is a 14.5 bcm mcmr with a surefire warcomp. Bcm furniture, PA gen 4 nova, magpul afg, geiselle ssp flatbow, radian raptor charging handle, magpul afg, and a cloud defensive rein 3.0. Also magpul sling
I love the fact that every step of the way he made sure his weapon was going to be efficient in any circumstances. Not about the looks but about “getting the job done” when a threat is imminent !!!
The long relief sigh that jim does right after he ejects the chambered round is golden lmao.. other dude forgot to weapons check it after he shot.
Great video, thanks for your service to all of you guys. Very informative set up.
He’s great at explaining the nuisances of how and why he does his weapon setup.
Mines a 14.7 pin and welded with an eotech 512 but with flash light and laser. Good to see I’m not totally wrong
@22:24 that quick cut after the malfunction 🤣
I run the same setup except I use a Grippod LE and a red dot with 5x magnifier.
Then again, I’m not typically engaging combatants at 700 meters. I keep my shots to 400. 500+ is what the sniper is for. Save my ammo for things the sniper isn’t set up for
The archery kisser button technique on the rifle blows my mind. Love it.
Thanks for this, got some good things to think about when it comes to my own gear. Appreciated.
my man just sat that rifle down like a cat."go play"
it might only be 4 inches long but its as big around as a coffee can
Commander offers great logic and insight here. Curiously, though I have little military training like he does, my AR is set up pretty similarly. No PEQ on mine though...
Leave it to Mr Foreman to ensure the rifle was clear before chatting 😂 thank you for your service sir.
Skipped right over the radical jamming
And that's why I run an AK.
You didn’t watch the whole video lol
I have one with a Radical upper and have had many more malfunctions than other guns. Something going on with the gas system.
damn 27 years in the military alot of my friends that joined couldnt wait to get out with in 4 years 😂
Bravo stock is the one without batteries I thought? Sopmod had battery tubes?
Correct!
Every 6 months I had to qualify in MOPP 4. Still managed to shoot Expert due to canting my head & keeping the sights level. I can attest to Jim's preference of not offsetting sighting systems.
Awesome content on setup. Keep up the good work, Uncle Jessie and Carl Winslow! 😂
Thanks for the idea time to attract house burglars to test it out 😂🙌🏻
I'm a cold war and gulf war vet. This is some good equipment
Just brought my first AR. I learned a lot great things.
great vid, I learned a lot! for me it wasn't what he added, but that he had a specific reason for it and where it needed to be placed! also his priorities of the optics over the other accessories
Just for the record your average gun tuber gets more range time than a Navy SEAL. They spend most of their time on tactics, PT, and mission planning. I know they started shooting more but you would be surprised how little they actually shoot.
That's interesting because when Richard Marcinko started up Seal Team 6 their annual expenditure on ammunition was more than the entire marine corp for a year according to him. So it is surprising they have fallen off shooting that much.
@@amywolfe6100 jocko talked about it a while back and was disappointed in how little they shot compared to everything else.
Even better than WHAT he shared is the WHY behind his decisions/preferences. Now everyone can adjust accordingly based on their own preferences/situations.
Just because he was a seal does not mean his gun is perfect for everybody. Do what is most usefull for you
What a dumb comment. Basics don’t change
The needs of the citizens are/will be vastly different from the military
Absolutely you gotta get out there and find out what works for you and your needs.
The whole point of the video is about how he kits HIS weapon, I guess that flew over your head.
@@doodad preferences and use change
Jim is the man! Love the build.
man did i learn some things big time. congrats
Full respect to the SEALs and all military members! Unpopular opinion: I've never understood why the average joe wants to set up his defense rifle like {insert SO branch of .mil} for their own use. There are only a few people who go into the types of situations that SO does. And you might be surprised to learn that they're actually SO. The average joe isn't SO. So why set up a rifle for SO work, when you're never going to do SO work? That said, more power to ya! Spend that dollar on the high speed gear so it can sit comfortably in the safe.
It's the fantasy - lots of guys don't set up their weapons for practical use - they set them up for the fantasy.
That can be said of pretty much every hobby or interest.
Thanks Jim
These boys really just pulling the trigger and not aiming not hitting the target, you can see the skill difference between Jim and the others
Dude looks soooo happy to be there...
Did that dude say "the whole shabazz?" 🤣🤣🤣 What the heck is the shabazz?!😂😂😂 It's a last name.
Our first patrol rifles were Colts. They were only about 700 bucks at the time. An EoTech was 500 and a decent light was 300. Also never put a cheap optic on a rifle.
Good thing nowadays you can get a better rifle for 7, a really really good dot for 2-3 and a streamlight 100 bucks.
I saw this and went to change my set up ,love it.
Mounting your top dot on the front helps to see your turret if you have a good optic for dialing. If you run a bdc, it might not matter so much to you.
13:54 That moment of awkwardness.. lmaooooo
he was quick with that comeback, didn't even blink lol
I have an Lpvo but never thought of putting the red dot on top. My canted irons work well. Granted I do have to aline the sights with the top of the barrel I don’t mind it
As long as you keep the height the same on your lpvo and offset red dot then it’s as simple as rolling the rifle in your shoulder. You shouldn’t have to move your neck or head like he was saying. If anything you’d have to move your head with a top mount other wise you’d be aiming lower on target when you drop rifle to see through red dot.
My HD rifle has a mini 1.5x mini acog and a light. 11.5 barrel.
My recce rifle. (By recce I mean shooting stuff at the range lol) has a 4x acog. 16inch barrel. Has ability to mount an rmr at 12oclock.