Ok, so I dont know how or why it happened, but the video uploaded with about 8 minutes of nothing after the actual video ends I made the change with TH-cam's editor so that the video is as long as it needs to be. For those of you who saw the original video with all the extra nothing, I'm sorry 😭 For those who are going to see the new updated version with all the extra fat gone, disregard this and enjoy
@@micahwilliams1449 Are You asking what Aro/Ace is? (I'm just gonna put it here in case) It basically means little to no attraction to anyone. Aro is no romantic attraction, Ace is no sexual attraction.
Fun fact about Gravity Falls: Apparently Alex wanted Mabel to be bi and have a female love interest but Disney said no and Blubs and Durand were going to kiss but Disney thought it was “inappropriate”
Holy shit.. i always had this obsession of headcanoning characters that are very obviously straight and calling them bi or pan in like an au or somthing and she was one of the characters lol. I had no idea that it would have been canon if Disney wasnt horrible lol
It’s so dumb to use the current political climate as a reason to not air an episode like this, as if that’s not literally the most important time to do so
Wait didn't the second season air in February way before the election? How the hell would the current political climate be a factor then, especially since the show was in development when Biden was in office. If its the political climate around trans people that have been here since forever then why even bother making the episode in the first place if they didn't have the balls to follow through?
I mean, they shouldn’t have made that honestly. I am right leaning but I’m pretty sure other people wouldn’t want children to watch a tv show that literally tells that what to believe let alone isn’t appropriate You sure you want your 5 year old to watch an episode where a coach gets mad at a CHILD for their biological sex and gender or whatever and their sport. Not only is it wrong to have children be trans openly and transitioned but also it’s completely inappropriate.
As someone who is Bisexual like myself it's baffling to see how Disney try to appeal to many markets yet they usually end up firing back at there face and that there tv shows are more better with lgbt representation than with there movies both animated and live action this is just so messed up on how the political system had infected our entertainment like a virus while trying to appeal country's that don't accept lgbt for religious and cultural reasons
@@Silverlink385 no it’s not fine oppress anyone. Oppression is bad. the problem is that Disney is afraid of losing money and being cowards. If Disney refused or anyone else for that matter to air an episode because it had religious person in it I’d call that and they didn’t lose money in countries where that religious person might be hated by that country’s government. I’d call that cowardice as well.
@@Silverlink385 "Oh nooooees, The Gays can now tell their own stories now, this OPPRESSION is unbearable!" That's what you sound like. As of last Tuesday, y'all lost any ounce of pity I had left to give ya.
Disney has never cared about lgbtq+ representation and probably never will. They only care about money and their public image, and if that means taking out anything even remotely lgbtq+, Disney will do it in less than a heartbeat. That's not representation, that's desperation, and it's incredibly frustrating and painful to watch and hear about. Great video by the way. I'm bisexual and the issues you brought up definitely resonated with me, and I'm sure they resonate with a lot of lgbtq+ people too.
@@pugpartyproductions9499Why? It’s completely appropriate. Do you turn off the tv when an opposite sex couple is on screen or is it only same sex because you’re homophobic?
As someone who's totally not on the inside: Disney will literally fold to *ANY* complaining if it's loud enough. It doesn't matter how invalid, or petty complaints are. Even with our internal "clubs" it doesn't matter how presentable, or in the margins you are. You draw any attention to yourself you will be melted, and broken down like an ant under a magnifying glass.
Not a disney show, but a show with INCREDIBLE representation is cartoon network’s Craig of the Creek! I even like its representation better than The Owl House, (not saying TOH’s is bad, it’s still incredible and a massive milestone but that’s just what it is to me) and in the episode Fire and Ice, it tackles the conflicts queer youth may have in finding out they are queer. It also has many NB characters, and my favorite part is that they’re not all androgynous. It’s slice of life, so it may not be everyone’s cup of tea, but I’d still 100% recommend it.
You can TELL that this episode, despite being well thought out, ended up getting shafted by Disney because it dared to do things Disney wouldn't want. At this point, I would not be surprised if they start scrubbing TOH off of Disney+ & their official TH-cam channels completely a few weeks later or perhaps even later today.
People don't get that performative wokeness is not wokeness. Pretending to care about something for financial reasons or optics is not the same as ACTUALLY caring about it
I think it's because they're sensitive people, and they see the small things that break through the cracks of Disney censorship in this regard and that makes them feel like the whole company is super "this way." And yes, I know what you probably all really think of them. I just don't like villain-izing people, even if I can still be weary of them or what they think and do. People might argue that because of their racial diversity stuff though too. But I get the point you were trying to make here
as a ftm that sentence at 6:53 sounded like a great appreciation of trans people standing up against most people that keep denying against calling them whatever they feel comfortable in Moon Girl is such an incredible show and it honestly should've deserved better than that ! js my opinion tho
I will never get over the fact that in Gravity Falls, two men or two women kissing (they cut a short appearance of a lesbian couple out of the Lovegod episode) was deemed unacceptable, YET it was a reoccuring joke that there's a law in Gravity Falls that allows you to MARRY WOODPECKERS. There was a guy who was married to a woodpecker, another guy supposedly married to a racoon, a couple of a snake and a badger, but god forbid we see two human adults of the same gender kiss.
And we’re gonna act like the shapeshifter didn’t permanently traumatise a 12 year old boy by showing him the exact pose and facial expression that he’d make when he dies and HE’S ACTUALLY RIGHT! BUT NOOOOOO, two men kissing is gonna scare the kiddos too much
Nooo, you don't understnd!!!1! It's a MAN human and a WOMAN woodpecker! Hetero is always okay, even if it's b€@st!@l!ty or !nterspec!es!!!!1! Therefore, we must OBVIOUSLY give eyelashes to every female animal, even though it's super weird, otherwise the kids will be confuzed cause two same-looking natural animals is GAY, not NATURALLY NORMAL!!
It sounds like Owl House really wants the badge of honor of being the first animated (not just Disney) show to have every type of lgbt representation they could, almost in a defient manner lol. Also, with the moongirl episode, yeah Disney probably didn't want any possible blow back with such a sensitive topic. Perhaps if the political climate or discussions around that were different then maybe it wouldn't be a problem for them to air it 🤔.
It'd still be a problem considering Disney wouldn't have wanted this in the 1st place, but the political climate gave them a really good excuse to just tuck it away.
Honestly that Moon Girl is episode was the boldest episode in Television. Legit I was shocked by the lengths this episode would take for its representation and it is amazing!! They even included a transphobic Karen it is insane! It had a good moral and art honestly if it was to air it would’ve been an inspiration to all young trans people!
I think The owl House creative team was just like "You cancelled us because of the lumity stuff, now we're gonna make everyone LGBTQ. What are you gonna do? Cancel us again?"
@@tom-r3z 😡💢💢You'd better watch what you say, smart-mouth! How DARE you say such putrid, asinine words?! You'd better NOT pray that Disney goes bankrupt! Instead, you should be praying that Disney changes for the better!!! Disney will never go bankrupt because Disney is going to change for the better, and my friends and I are going to make that happen! We're going to make positive changes at Disney and restore everything back to the way Walt envisioned it! So you'd better watch your words!
@@sorentothesky I assure you that I am NOT joking at all. I'm deadly serious about what I said. I made a vow on Walt Disney's grave that I would save his company from ruin and change everything there for the better. And I intend to fulfill that promise, whatever happens!!! And the very last thing I want to hear is some asinine twit praying for Disney's bankruptcy!!!😡
@@Ashley._17. 😡💢💢HEY!!! You'd better watch what you say!!! Disney is NOT going to dig themselves into the ground like this anymore, nor are they going bankrupt!!! Disney is NEVER going bankrupt because things there are going to change for the better!!! And my friends and I are going to be responsible for those positive changes at Disney!!! I swore on Walt's grave that I would save his company from ruin and change everything there for the better, and I'm going to fulfill that promise, come hell or high water!!! So do me a favor and zip it before you say something you'll regret!!!
Strange Magic bombed because they didn't fucking advertise it. Did anyone actually hear of it before it was out?? Compare that with Encanto not that long prior.
I live in Nigeria and I heard about it so you Americans should stop with this dumb excuse that it wasn't marketed well because it was, y'all were just too lazy to go see it
Once again, Disney kept being cowards ever since they canceled this show along with the owl house cause they didn’t want to have backlash from the viewers perspective after the election took place. I’m not even trans but this episode had taught a very important life lesson with a deep message to what made this show special.
Good, enough with their wokeness, they are the highest grossing movie this year because they are smart enough to get rid of you alphabet people because nothing is ever enough for you
I saw the episode three times over and...I see NOTHING wrong with it. Seriously, what is WITH the world's disdain towards Trans people and Trans characters
I focken know, right? It's all messed up how much hatred people have for trans people just, you know, EXISTING. Like, even in this comment section people are being nasty towards LGBTQ+ people. It's all borked, it's all borked.
4:17 The amount of characters who are queer is like they are trying to get all the representation in the show. Might as well have the Smash Ultimate theme play in the background.
I hate Disney, They got rid of Or severely crippled the ending of 3 really good shows. The Owl House, Amphibia, And now Moon Girl And Devil Dinosaur. Because they had gay characters in them Or the protagonist Was part of the LGBTQ Community (Not sure about Amphibia I know it was The case for The Owl House)
I won't say what my opinions are, but I can understand them not airing the trans episode of Moon Girl. That topic is a can of worms that opens of even more cans of worms that are their own topic to be dealt with. Doesn't change my opinion much on it though, if Disney really cared for the people they "represent", it's funny how they do this cr@p so often.
1:24 I'd love to know which were the countries where they changed the cop's partner from a woman to a man, because I live in Latin America and they kept the reference of the cop having a girlfriend intact, in fact, the Pixar short, Out, which focuses on a gay man coming out to his parents was dubbed and is rated for all ages. Some people say that Disney censors all of the LGBT content for Chinese releases, but I think that isn't the case, even the infamous background female rebels kissing in the end of The Rise of Skywalker was apparently kept intact in many international releases
@TheOGCrit well, that does not surprises me knowing how the government there treats the LGBT community, though Disney allowing the film to be changed there isn't very surprising either considering that, before the war, the Russian market for movies was pretty important for them, however that kind of shows that Disney doesn't care about their movie's stories or about their creative staff, they just want to maximize theirb profits
@@TheOGCrit so what? How does that affect YOU? People need to understand the US is NOT the center of the universe. The world does NOT revolve around you. Just because lgbtq representation is ok in the US, it doesn't mean it's ok in other countries, and you have to respect that whether you like it or not. YOU can't dictate how other countries are run, just like YOU wouldn't like it if THEY tried to dictate how the US was ran, would you? It doesn't matter if we're ok with it or not, You can't force yourself (or your lifestyles, or your beliefs) on others. Also, Disney is a COMPANY, and you know what matters to companies? MAKING MONEY... and they (and any other company in the world) is going to cater differently to their consumers is different parts of the world. Why is that so hard to understand? "Representation" might be the only thing that matters to YOU, and the only thing you think about 24/7 (and kudos to you for having that privilege!), but that doesn't mean it's the same for everyone else. Again... What matters to ME, is important to ME. What matters to YOU, is important to YOU. Doesn't mean everyone else has to care about it too. Sorry to be so blunt, but someone had to say it.
😡💢💢YOU'D BETTER WATCH YOUR MOUTH!!! Just STFU already!!! I'm sick and tired of all this BS!!! Disney is NOT radically "woke" NOR is it anti-lgbt at the same time! That's the stupidest thing you could ever say! Disney is NOT going woke anymore! My friends and I are changing Disney for ther better by abolishing the woke agenda from Disney permanently! And no, this isn't a joke whatsoever! As for the LGBT, we're going to have Disney showcase LGBT the PROPER way!
It's not just that the episode didn't have anything jarring, but it was a big deal. It's was a kind of representation and story that is extremely important to be told RIGHT. NOW. The trans population is being attacked in every single way possible and this episode is a counter to that
I'm not sure if I'd really count Titan and Vee seeing as Vee is a shapeshifter so wouldn't have a "set" gender and Titan is basically a god so can chose whatever form he or she or they desire, not bound by mortal restrictions... Same goes for Collector. Everything else in TOH was great and I only have respect for it's casual inclusion to not feel like a massive "LOOK AT THIS! LOOK! YOU DON'T NORMALLY SEE THIS!" and instead like a "yeah, this character is this... so what? it's cool." as it should be!
I mean, Vee still has a base form even as a shape shifter, so that base form would have a way of identifying. Like how Mystique identified as a woman even though she’s a shapeshifter The Titan you could say that, but then at the same time there’s the strong implication that Titans reproduce asexually, so if that factors into how King’s dad sees himself, it fits. As for him and the collector being gods, they may not be bound by normal gender presentation, but they can still choose to present themselves a certain way
@@TheOGCrit To be perfectly correct, Vee identifies as a girl despite being able to shapeshift into anyone, and the Titan is intersex and bigender, but I don't know if, for the titan, those things are related. Technically, every titan is "intersex" in the way they can reproduce asexually. Because King is technically intersex, yet uses he/him pronouns only, and likely identifies as a "boy"
disney executive meeting "uhuh! wows! this owl show sure is popular with the world! we can keep this going fore-" "sir, they made girls dance." "What." "the uh, protagonist is bi, sir. and she's gonna have a female love interest." *sweating, walks over to big red button that says "eliminate the planned third season because we hate those people"* "sir are you sure" "uhuh! don't question me, or i'll shorten you too!"
none talks about the 7 inverse sins for example pride, is sin, it sucks and makes you fall, humble is GOOD, but self loathing is what happens when have ZERO pride and not humble whatsoever.
Personally, the market of the industry that’s suffering the most compared to any other market are family friendly media. From TH-cam disabling comment sections of even the oldest videos that just so happen to have no sex, violence or cuss words, some may even be old enough that adults would only know about them. Or Victor Zsasz or whatever his name is influencing companies into purging talented people’s hard work from availability just to save money, many of which being animated and/or kid-friendly. Or tv networks, cable or streaming, making no effort advertising or even preserving their content including content meant for families or at least the better ones and replacing them with either content that does the bare minimum or doesn’t even try to improve that gets rewarded for multiple renewals (Young Dylan) or revivals/reboots/sequels of their parent’s’ favorite shows. Or at the most, older sibling’s’ favorite shows (The Really Loud House, Teen Titans Go). I’m in my late 20s and I feel terrible for kids right now because adult executives blatantly hate anything they can write off as kids stuff like animation, even if it’s for adults. It’s slowly been getting bad for the last few years and it’s gonna continue to get bad for a long time now. Which is why I’m more than supportive for the decent kids shows we have that are getting another season which are Percy Jackson and The Olympians (some of the book fans don’t like it and I never read the books so what I do I know) or My Adventures With Superman (I don’t care if it’s on Adult Swim; it’s every bit as family friendly as the DCAU and looking at the company that owns the show, it’s probably stuck there to avoid getting tax write-offed.
David Zaslav feels more like a Lex Luthor then Victor Zsasz, but as much as I like the WB, I still can’t agree with their decisions. Especially towards the animation stuff. I don’t think animators losing their jobs from one project is as overdramatic as it sounds… because animating stuff is a job, and animators can get another job somewhere. But the animators do need to be treated better. Especially at Warner Bros. I mean sure Disney sucks a lot, but at least they treat their animators with respect… or at least they used to, compared to Warner Bros. Edit: While My Adventures of Superman doesn’t make a big deal out of using curse words and what not, it’s still an adult anime, due to its graphic violence, and deep messages, that the DCAU could’ve easily done if they weren’t censored.
Meanwhile Object Shows and other indie animation are way more inclusive. BFDI has 3 canon non-binary characters. Inanimate Insanity has two. The hosts of BFDI for seasons 4 and 5 go by he/they pronouns. Inanimate Insanity has a canon aromantic character. And there is an object show called Excellent Entities where everyone is queer. Everyone.
People on the other side are crazy. They think it’s disgusting to put this stuff on tv. I can get if the show was target at preschool, but it’s The Owl House and Moon Girl is for tweens and teens. Teens are already developing crushes. Heck even tweens can have puppy love.
But they’re okay with the beauty and the beast, and snow white, and marvel. It’s okay if it’s a straight couple, but as soon as they show any signs of being gay? Nope, it’s off the table.
Disney executives have funded the same lawmakers that signed Don't Say Gay into Law while promoting themselves as the ones that will speak out against homophobia. The conservative backlash they got only came after they listened to their employees who walked out and protested against their execs funding republican lawmakers. They took the backlash from conservatives more and now decided to "tone down" queerness or scrap original stories with minority groups and give us the same disney adult slop about sequels or reboots from preexisting ips. (no original movies announced at d23 but for some reason a third incredibles movie and a phineas and ferb reboot) Disney is two-faced. They are the walking definition of rainbow capitalism. Idk if you're lgbtq yourself, but I did like this video. I always wanted to make a video covering how two-faced Disney is with queer people and this is a good look at it. Keep up the good work 3:45 funny how Launchpad is there considering he was also confirmed Bisexual in the same means of "random note from behind the scenes" instead of showing it in the show (and unlike Brooklyn, Launchpad is a legacy Disney character, who knows the shitstorm that would've happened if conservatives saw him being romantic w Drake or another male in the show)
the thing that makes me the most mad about this is that it's a MARVEL IP, Disney is marvel's n1 fan and releases slop on the yearly after endgame, but when it comes to representation not even the big marvel is safe from disney's hammer
Yet it was cancelled for “not matching the brand” which is corporate speak for them not liking it being lgbt. Still, they used it for their pride month promotion.
1:56 Also just want to mention that Disney did next to nothing before and after release to actually advertise Strange World. Everyone in my local neighborhood that I tried to talk to about the movie at it's release had never even heard of it. Disney sure isn't shy about spamming me with Inside Out 2 ads right now though
same, i watxhed the banned episode tho. It was really good! it also makes me super happy to see a charater whos openly nonbinary! ( i know thats not the point of the episode but the only nonbinary cartoon character i can think of is raine from the owlhouse and they never outright state theyre nonbinary in the show only outside of the show.)
Me when I heard of owl house in this video: OMG ill have to watch it Me when I heard they cancelled it: of course they did -_- Me when I heard about that one episode: I'll have to watch it! Me when I heard they cancelled it: of course they did -_-
😡💢💢You shut up right now! How DARE you say such asinine words?! NEVER, EVER SAY THEM AGAIN!!! Never say "Rest in Peace, Disney Studio and Parks anytime soon"! It's absolutely disgusting! The Disney Studio and Parks are NOT going to be resting in peace anytime soon! Things at Disney are going to change for the better, and my friends and I are going to make that happen! Along with Elon Musk's help, we're abolishing the woke agenda and making things right at Disney again! I promised Walt Disney that I would save his company and make everything right there again, and I'm keeping that promise! So do me a favor and watch what you say before you sorely regret it!
😡💢💢SHUT UP!!! JUST DO ME A FAVOR AND SHUT YOUR MOUTH!!! How DARE you say such asinine words?!! Neither Disney Studio nor the Disney parks are going "rest in peace" ANYTIME soon! The Disney studio and Parks are going to PROSPER!!! We're gonna make Disney more better than ever, so watch your mouth!!!
okay I know that this is mainly about disney being exposed for their inconsistent ways of representation but what's with the black screen for the rest of the video
Startup Tune Feat. Pizza Hotline by Nuphory I got permission about a year ago to use their music after my big Velma video, and I use it whenever I’m in a pinch for a soundtrack
I will admit, this is the one I might be wrong about However, it is my personal headcanon that Marco was such a shitty boyfriend, Jackie had to re-evaluate how much she actually liked boys lol Star Vs was a mess
One of my biggest dreams is to create a cartoon that is entertaining for teens and adults as well as kids, (I'm actually already planning the story and characters), with openly queer main characters, showing the world that we exist, deal with it, while not actually having the whole storyline centering about lgbtq+. If I ever get to the point of making it a reality, I don't know what streaming platform would even have it, tbh. I mean, if disney proceeds to be this way, they're just gonna have to deal with missing out on a lot of good stuff >:3
While I don’t agree with the episode entirely, I agree that Disney needs to stop being cowards and stop trying to just allude to characters being gay until the final episode where they can’t get in trouble for it
Ok, so I dont know how or why it happened, but the video uploaded with about 8 minutes of nothing after the actual video ends
I made the change with TH-cam's editor so that the video is as long as it needs to be. For those of you who saw the original video with all the extra nothing, I'm sorry 😭
For those who are going to see the new updated version with all the extra fat gone, disregard this and enjoy
I didn't know Vee was Nonbinary until now. That's cool.
I just checked and Darius is gay.
Aero-ace?
@@micahwilliams1449 Are You asking what Aro/Ace is? (I'm just gonna put it here in case) It basically means little to no attraction to anyone. Aro is no romantic attraction, Ace is no sexual attraction.
@NinetyEight98989 thanks.
2:00 Strange World's failure also had to do with the abysmal advertising campaign. Like, there were Disney superfans that didn't know it came out
Not to mention that the movie came out around the same time the 2022 World Cup began, and in various countires people tend to go less to the movies
All in favor of the Black Panther sequel. Shame since it was actually a good movie.
Fun fact about Gravity Falls: Apparently Alex wanted Mabel to be bi and have a female love interest but Disney said no and Blubs and Durand were going to kiss but Disney thought it was “inappropriate”
never heard that about Mabel before
Holy shit.. i always had this obsession of headcanoning characters that are very obviously straight and calling them bi or pan in like an au or somthing and she was one of the characters lol. I had no idea that it would have been canon if Disney wasnt horrible lol
I always thought mabel was pan😭
On the bright side, she was already confirmed to be bi/pan but not seeing her with a female love interest on screen was a letdown.
he also fought for love god instead of having a male and female nechlace a trans symbol on his necklace. Alex also wanted to make dipper trans (ftm)
"AT LEAST SOMEONE ENJOYS MY COOKING!" My favorite quote said by a side charecter
It’s so dumb to use the current political climate as a reason to not air an episode like this, as if that’s not literally the most important time to do so
Wait didn't the second season air in February way before the election? How the hell would the current political climate be a factor then, especially since the show was in development when Biden was in office. If its the political climate around trans people that have been here since forever then why even bother making the episode in the first place if they didn't have the balls to follow through?
@@patrickmcguire7896Episodes are made and then presented to Disney's PR or QA team,
usually scanned way too hard and too many edits requested
It's almost like hm..
They're on the side who want to take aways there rights? 😱
I wonder how the shift is gonna affect the production of season 2 of X-Men 97. As far as I know, the show is already Dead On Arrival.
I mean, they shouldn’t have made that honestly.
I am right leaning but I’m pretty sure other people wouldn’t want children to watch a tv show that literally tells that what to believe let alone isn’t appropriate
You sure you want your 5 year old to watch an episode where a coach gets mad at a CHILD for their biological sex and gender or whatever and their sport. Not only is it wrong to have children be trans openly and transitioned but also it’s completely inappropriate.
As someone who is Bisexual like myself it's baffling to see how Disney try to appeal to many markets yet they usually end up firing back at there face and that there tv shows are more better with lgbt representation than with there movies both animated and live action this is just so messed up on how the political system had infected our entertainment like a virus while trying to appeal country's that don't accept lgbt for religious and cultural reasons
im bi. well bi mostly gay as well and i agree with you
@@Silverlink385 no it’s not fine oppress anyone. Oppression is bad. the problem is that Disney is afraid of losing money and being cowards. If Disney refused or anyone else for that matter to air an episode because it had religious person in it I’d call that and they didn’t lose money in countries where that religious person might be hated by that country’s government. I’d call that cowardice as well.
@@Silverlink385 how is that opressing religious people
@@Silverlink385 "Oh nooooees, The Gays can now tell their own stories now, this OPPRESSION is unbearable!"
That's what you sound like. As of last Tuesday, y'all lost any ounce of pity I had left to give ya.
@@weatherman1504 evul himlier mann
all need representation but gays are not the majority
Disney has never cared about lgbtq+ representation and probably never will. They only care about money and their public image, and if that means taking out anything even remotely lgbtq+, Disney will do it in less than a heartbeat. That's not representation, that's desperation, and it's incredibly frustrating and painful to watch and hear about.
Great video by the way. I'm bisexual and the issues you brought up definitely resonated with me, and I'm sure they resonate with a lot of lgbtq+ people too.
Lgbtq stuff shouldn't be in children's content though.
@@pugpartyproductions9499Why? It’s completely appropriate. Do you turn off the tv when an opposite sex couple is on screen or is it only same sex because you’re homophobic?
its so sad because so many creators of movies and cartoons would have loved representation, such as gravity falls, but disney shuts it down.
@@scribblcoolcat that's actually a good thing though.
@@pugpartyproductions9499why? Got any examples?
It's dissapointing, but not surprising that Disney would do this. Moon Girl is an incredible show, and it deserves better than this.
You're RIGHT! Moon Girl DOES deserve better!
YEAH
No it doesn't
Quit being such a crybaby snowflake.
As someone who's totally not on the inside: Disney will literally fold to *ANY* complaining if it's loud enough. It doesn't matter how invalid, or petty complaints are. Even with our internal "clubs" it doesn't matter how presentable, or in the margins you are. You draw any attention to yourself you will be melted, and broken down like an ant under a magnifying glass.
Thanks for the insight person who's totally not on the inside
Glad to know this totally theorized statement person who’s totally on the inside
Not a disney show, but a show with INCREDIBLE representation is cartoon network’s Craig of the Creek! I even like its representation better than The Owl House, (not saying TOH’s is bad, it’s still incredible and a massive milestone but that’s just what it is to me) and in the episode Fire and Ice, it tackles the conflicts queer youth may have in finding out they are queer. It also has many NB characters, and my favorite part is that they’re not all androgynous. It’s slice of life, so it may not be everyone’s cup of tea, but I’d still 100% recommend it.
Funny you should mention that
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You can TELL that this episode, despite being well thought out, ended up getting shafted by Disney because it dared to do things Disney wouldn't want. At this point, I would not be surprised if they start scrubbing TOH off of Disney+ & their official TH-cam channels completely a few weeks later or perhaps even later today.
As a transfem, I cried when she was talking about the doors being slammed
I'm transmasc but same
Same girl
okkai womunn
Same 😭 I’m ftm tho
Yeah same saw the clip on twt and I teared up
I think it’s FUCKING hilarious when weirdos try to accuse Disney of being “woke” when they are literally the exact opposite.
yeah, disney is SO conservative lol.
Maybe it's both? Or in other words, they pretend to be Woke... but really they are the worst kind of Not-Woke... if you get my drift.
People don't get that performative wokeness is not wokeness. Pretending to care about something for financial reasons or optics is not the same as ACTUALLY caring about it
I think it's because they're sensitive people, and they see the small things that break through the cracks of Disney censorship in this regard and that makes them feel like the whole company is super "this way." And yes, I know what you probably all really think of them. I just don't like villain-izing people, even if I can still be weary of them or what they think and do.
People might argue that because of their racial diversity stuff though too. But I get the point you were trying to make here
They are playing neither side and everybody hates them.
as a ftm that sentence at 6:53 sounded like a great appreciation of trans people standing up against most people that keep denying against calling them whatever they feel comfortable in
Moon Girl is such an incredible show and it honestly should've deserved better than that ! js my opinion tho
The ones doing the denying are those who can't accept what they're born as.
@@zhengyingliExcept we do accept who we are. You guys are the ones refusing to accept us.
I will never get over the fact that in Gravity Falls, two men or two women kissing (they cut a short appearance of a lesbian couple out of the Lovegod episode) was deemed unacceptable, YET it was a reoccuring joke that there's a law in Gravity Falls that allows you to MARRY WOODPECKERS. There was a guy who was married to a woodpecker, another guy supposedly married to a racoon, a couple of a snake and a badger, but god forbid we see two human adults of the same gender kiss.
And we’re gonna act like the shapeshifter didn’t permanently traumatise a 12 year old boy by showing him the exact pose and facial expression that he’d make when he dies and HE’S ACTUALLY RIGHT! BUT NOOOOOO, two men kissing is gonna scare the kiddos too much
Nooo, you don't understnd!!!1! It's a MAN human and a WOMAN woodpecker! Hetero is always okay, even if it's b€@st!@l!ty or !nterspec!es!!!!1! Therefore, we must OBVIOUSLY give eyelashes to every female animal, even though it's super weird, otherwise the kids will be confuzed cause two same-looking natural animals is GAY, not NATURALLY NORMAL!!
It sounds like Owl House really wants the badge of honor of being the first animated (not just Disney) show to have every type of lgbt representation they could, almost in a defient manner lol.
Also, with the moongirl episode, yeah Disney probably didn't want any possible blow back with such a sensitive topic. Perhaps if the political climate or discussions around that were different then maybe it wouldn't be a problem for them to air it 🤔.
It'd still be a problem considering Disney wouldn't have wanted this in the 1st place, but the political climate gave them a really good excuse to just tuck it away.
Honestly that Moon Girl is episode was the boldest episode in Television. Legit I was shocked by the lengths this episode would take for its representation and it is amazing!! They even included a transphobic Karen it is insane! It had a good moral and art honestly if it was to air it would’ve been an inspiration to all young trans people!
I think The owl House creative team was just like "You cancelled us because of the lumity stuff, now we're gonna make everyone LGBTQ. What are you gonna do? Cancel us again?"
@@EXO_75 I love that they did it. THAT is a BOLD move!
If Disney keeps diging themselves in the ground like this, they're going bankrupt for sure.
I pray it happens. I would buy Disney myself but I’m still in high school like Jeez.
@@tom-r3z 😡💢💢You'd better watch what you say, smart-mouth! How DARE you say such putrid, asinine words?! You'd better NOT pray that Disney goes bankrupt!
Instead, you should be praying that Disney changes for the better!!!
Disney will never go bankrupt because Disney is going to change for the better, and my friends and I are going to make that happen! We're going to make positive changes at Disney and restore everything back to the way Walt envisioned it! So you'd better watch your words!
@@annien.1727you better be joking.
@@sorentothesky I assure you that I am NOT joking at all. I'm deadly serious about what I said.
I made a vow on Walt Disney's grave that I would save his company from ruin and change everything there for the better. And I intend to fulfill that promise, whatever happens!!! And the very last thing I want to hear is some asinine twit praying for Disney's bankruptcy!!!😡
@@Ashley._17. 😡💢💢HEY!!! You'd better watch what you say!!! Disney is NOT going to dig themselves into the ground like this anymore, nor are they going bankrupt!!!
Disney is NEVER going bankrupt because things there are going to change for the better!!! And my friends and I are going to be responsible for those positive changes at Disney!!!
I swore on Walt's grave that I would save his company from ruin and change everything there for the better, and I'm going to fulfill that promise, come hell or high water!!!
So do me a favor and zip it before you say something you'll regret!!!
Strange Magic bombed because they didn't fucking advertise it. Did anyone actually hear of it before it was out?? Compare that with Encanto not that long prior.
You mean Strange World, right? Strange Magic was the George Lucas fairy musical.
I live in Nigeria and I heard about it so you Americans should stop with this dumb excuse that it wasn't marketed well because it was, y'all were just too lazy to go see it
So is Disney ok with violence in their shows but not males hugging males and females kissing each other?
Violence has been here even kids tv
Once again, Disney kept being cowards ever since they canceled this show along with the owl house cause they didn’t want to have backlash from the viewers perspective after the election took place. I’m not even trans but this episode had taught a very important life lesson with a deep message to what made this show special.
Good, enough with their wokeness, they are the highest grossing movie this year because they are smart enough to get rid of you alphabet people because nothing is ever enough for you
Even the big mouth overlords of Netflix had more balls with the bi and trans character in that one show
In the book of bill Stanford Pines is confirmed to be Pansexual.
I saw the episode three times over and...I see NOTHING wrong with it.
Seriously, what is WITH the world's disdain towards Trans people and Trans characters
I focken know, right? It's all messed up how much hatred people have for trans people just, you know, EXISTING. Like, even in this comment section people are being nasty towards LGBTQ+ people. It's all borked, it's all borked.
Because transphobes use the word “woke” as an excuse to hate on trans representation in modern media.
The beginning disclaimer calling them “b*tch made suits” is low key so stunning and brave. I’d like to see how your content goes!
4:17
The amount of characters who are queer is like they are trying to get all the representation in the show. Might as well have the Smash Ultimate theme play in the background.
Bro, I just stumbled across this video on my FYP. I wasn’t expecting to randomly find you here. Great video, man.
I hate Disney, They got rid of Or severely crippled the ending of 3 really good shows. The Owl House, Amphibia, And now Moon Girl And Devil Dinosaur. Because they had gay characters in them Or the protagonist Was part of the LGBTQ Community (Not sure about Amphibia I know it was The case for The Owl House)
I won't say what my opinions are, but I can understand them not airing the trans episode of Moon Girl. That topic is a can of worms that opens of even more cans of worms that are their own topic to be dealt with.
Doesn't change my opinion much on it though, if Disney really cared for the people they "represent", it's funny how they do this cr@p so often.
1:24 I'd love to know which were the countries where they changed the cop's partner from a woman to a man, because I live in Latin America and they kept the reference of the cop having a girlfriend intact, in fact, the Pixar short, Out, which focuses on a gay man coming out to his parents was dubbed and is rated for all ages. Some people say that Disney censors all of the LGBT content for Chinese releases, but I think that isn't the case, even the infamous background female rebels kissing in the end of The Rise of Skywalker was apparently kept intact in many international releases
Russia changed her dialogue to remove any reference to homosexuality
@TheOGCrit well, that does not surprises me knowing how the government there treats the LGBT community, though Disney allowing the film to be changed there isn't very surprising either considering that, before the war, the Russian market for movies was pretty important for them, however that kind of shows that Disney doesn't care about their movie's stories or about their creative staff, they just want to maximize theirb profits
@@TheOGCrit so what? How does that affect YOU? People need to understand the US is NOT the center of the universe. The world does NOT revolve around you. Just because lgbtq representation is ok in the US, it doesn't mean it's ok in other countries, and you have to respect that whether you like it or not. YOU can't dictate how other countries are run, just like YOU wouldn't like it if THEY tried to dictate how the US was ran, would you? It doesn't matter if we're ok with it or not, You can't force yourself (or your lifestyles, or your beliefs) on others.
Also, Disney is a COMPANY, and you know what matters to companies? MAKING MONEY... and they (and any other company in the world) is going to cater differently to their consumers is different parts of the world. Why is that so hard to understand?
"Representation" might be the only thing that matters to YOU, and the only thing you think about 24/7 (and kudos to you for having that privilege!), but that doesn't mean it's the same for everyone else.
Again... What matters to ME, is important to ME. What matters to YOU, is important to YOU. Doesn't mean everyone else has to care about it too. Sorry to be so blunt, but someone had to say it.
It's jarring how Disney is both radically woke and anti lgbt at the same time
Literally LMAO
😡💢💢YOU'D BETTER WATCH YOUR MOUTH!!! Just STFU already!!! I'm sick and tired of all this BS!!! Disney is NOT radically "woke" NOR is it anti-lgbt at the same time! That's the stupidest thing you could ever say! Disney is NOT going woke anymore! My friends and I are changing Disney for ther better by abolishing the woke agenda from Disney permanently! And no, this isn't a joke whatsoever! As for the LGBT, we're going to have Disney showcase LGBT the PROPER way!
@@imagaybanana2004 😡💢💢Shut your laughing right now! I'm losing my patience here! This ISN'T funny in the slightest!
Andi Mack also had gay representation. It was a coming out storyline.
It's not just that the episode didn't have anything jarring, but it was a big deal. It's was a kind of representation and story that is extremely important to be told RIGHT. NOW. The trans population is being attacked in every single way possible and this episode is a counter to that
I'm not sure if I'd really count Titan and Vee seeing as Vee is a shapeshifter so wouldn't have a "set" gender and Titan is basically a god so can chose whatever form he or she or they desire, not bound by mortal restrictions... Same goes for Collector.
Everything else in TOH was great and I only have respect for it's casual inclusion to not feel like a massive "LOOK AT THIS! LOOK! YOU DON'T NORMALLY SEE THIS!" and instead like a "yeah, this character is this... so what? it's cool." as it should be!
I mean, Vee still has a base form even as a shape shifter, so that base form would have a way of identifying. Like how Mystique identified as a woman even though she’s a shapeshifter
The Titan you could say that, but then at the same time there’s the strong implication that Titans reproduce asexually, so if that factors into how King’s dad sees himself, it fits. As for him and the collector being gods, they may not be bound by normal gender presentation, but they can still choose to present themselves a certain way
@@TheOGCrit To be perfectly correct, Vee identifies as a girl despite being able to shapeshift into anyone, and the Titan is intersex and bigender, but I don't know if, for the titan, those things are related. Technically, every titan is "intersex" in the way they can reproduce asexually. Because King is technically intersex, yet uses he/him pronouns only, and likely identifies as a "boy"
If I had a nickel for every time I forgot Strange worlds existed I’d be a millionaire
2:53 STOP MAKING US WATCH WHOLE SHOWS JUST FOR GAY IN THE FINAL EP 😭
disney executive meeting
"uhuh! wows! this owl show sure is popular with the world! we can keep this going fore-"
"sir, they made girls dance."
"What."
"the uh, protagonist is bi, sir. and she's gonna have a female love interest."
*sweating, walks over to big red button that says "eliminate the planned third season because we hate those people"*
"sir are you sure"
"uhuh! don't question me, or i'll shorten you too!"
wait moon girl was fully cancelled? like, no season 3?
4:41 I thought she was non-binary he/him she/her?
oh half this video is blank lol
Thank you for bringing this to my attention 😭
@@TheOGCrit yw
Dude I'm A fuckin transfem THE FUCKING MOON GIRL EPISODE I WAS BEYOND PISSED
For most of these couples, I DID NOT KNOW THEY WERE COUPLES I THOUGHT THEY WERE LIKE, REALLY GOOD FRIENDS BRO-
4:30 WAIT LUZ IS GENDER NON-CONFORMING??? WHAT?? HOW WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOW THIS??? (or am i just dumb)
none talks about the 7 inverse sins for example pride, is sin, it sucks and makes you fall, humble is GOOD, but self loathing is what happens when have ZERO pride and not humble whatsoever.
Personally, the market of the industry that’s suffering the most compared to any other market are family friendly media. From TH-cam disabling comment sections of even the oldest videos that just so happen to have no sex, violence or cuss words, some may even be old enough that adults would only know about them. Or Victor Zsasz or whatever his name is influencing companies into purging talented people’s hard work from availability just to save money, many of which being animated and/or kid-friendly. Or tv networks, cable or streaming, making no effort advertising or even preserving their content including content meant for families or at least the better ones and replacing them with either content that does the bare minimum or doesn’t even try to improve that gets rewarded for multiple renewals (Young Dylan) or revivals/reboots/sequels of their parent’s’ favorite shows. Or at the most, older sibling’s’ favorite shows (The Really Loud House, Teen Titans Go).
I’m in my late 20s and I feel terrible for kids right now because adult executives blatantly hate anything they can write off as kids stuff like animation, even if it’s for adults. It’s slowly been getting bad for the last few years and it’s gonna continue to get bad for a long time now.
Which is why I’m more than supportive for the decent kids shows we have that are getting another season which are Percy Jackson and The Olympians (some of the book fans don’t like it and I never read the books so what I do I know) or My Adventures With Superman (I don’t care if it’s on Adult Swim; it’s every bit as family friendly as the DCAU and looking at the company that owns the show, it’s probably stuck there to avoid getting tax write-offed.
calling David Zaslav Victor Zsasz is pretty based actually
i read the Percy Jackson books as a teen and LOVED THEM and i think the show is absolutely fantastic! :D
David Zaslav feels more like a Lex Luthor then Victor Zsasz, but as much as I like the WB, I still can’t agree with their decisions. Especially towards the animation stuff. I don’t think animators losing their jobs from one project is as overdramatic as it sounds… because animating stuff is a job, and animators can get another job somewhere. But the animators do need to be treated better. Especially at Warner Bros. I mean sure Disney sucks a lot, but at least they treat their animators with respect… or at least they used to, compared to Warner Bros.
Edit: While My Adventures of Superman doesn’t make a big deal out of using curse words and what not, it’s still an adult anime, due to its graphic violence, and deep messages, that the DCAU could’ve easily done if they weren’t censored.
oh how i wish i could repost entire youtube videos like on tiktok,, this entire video explains the problems ive had with disney for YEARS
The Owl House was the TRUE REBEL.
I blame .the. conservatives
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Meanwhile Object Shows and other indie animation are way more inclusive. BFDI has 3 canon non-binary characters. Inanimate Insanity has two. The hosts of BFDI for seasons 4 and 5 go by he/they pronouns. Inanimate Insanity has a canon aromantic character. And there is an object show called Excellent Entities where everyone is queer. Everyone.
YO BFDI FAN DETECTED!!!! 🎉🎉🎉
And don’t forget that,
SPOILERS FOR ACT 3 OF THE SEASON 2 FINALE OF INANIMATE INSANITY
INANIMATE INSANITY GAVE US A GAY COUPLE!
OMG! 😱 I didn’t knew Hunter was a bisexual
People on the other side are crazy. They think it’s disgusting to put this stuff on tv. I can get if the show was target at preschool, but it’s The Owl House and Moon Girl is for tweens and teens. Teens are already developing crushes. Heck even tweens can have puppy love.
Yep
But they’re okay with the beauty and the beast, and snow white, and marvel. It’s okay if it’s a straight couple, but as soon as they show any signs of being gay? Nope, it’s off the table.
i don't think it's a secret that people like each other even at preschool age
Bro I thought the couple in big city greens was roommates that’s how bad their representation gets
i think kings dad is just loving how king is since it his his son he talking about
i'm on the other side of that argument, but it's nice hearing the other point of view every now and then even if i don't agree
4:30 Vee is not nonbinary. this has never been stated nor hinted at. ever.
maybe they got it confused with the enby that they crush on. The one with the super cool nails with the nonbinary flag on them.
@Furinastan Masha?
@@Cherno35 yeah! sorry im bad with names and they only appear like 3 times
lets be honest. the owl house got cancelled because disney is homophobic
Disney executives have funded the same lawmakers that signed Don't Say Gay into Law while promoting themselves as the ones that will speak out against homophobia. The conservative backlash they got only came after they listened to their employees who walked out and protested against their execs funding republican lawmakers. They took the backlash from conservatives more and now decided to "tone down" queerness or scrap original stories with minority groups and give us the same disney adult slop about sequels or reboots from preexisting ips. (no original movies announced at d23 but for some reason a third incredibles movie and a phineas and ferb reboot)
Disney is two-faced. They are the walking definition of rainbow capitalism. Idk if you're lgbtq yourself, but I did like this video. I always wanted to make a video covering how two-faced Disney is with queer people and this is a good look at it. Keep up the good work
3:45 funny how Launchpad is there considering he was also confirmed Bisexual in the same means of "random note from behind the scenes" instead of showing it in the show (and unlike Brooklyn, Launchpad is a legacy Disney character, who knows the shitstorm that would've happened if conservatives saw him being romantic w Drake or another male in the show)
I mean, I did end the video saying I was bi lol
But you summed it up nicely, I was focused more solely on the media aspect of it
I regret to post this update but "The Gatekeeper" is no longer on Internet Archive (pull yourself together Disney)
Seriously?!?! nooooo
Hey, what do you use to record audio? I wanna make videos of my own but don't know anything about mics lol
i would make a post on a subreddit for youtubers or podcasters or something.
I miss the owl house 😭
1:29 "...could be..." But *was* it removed from the film for overseas release? You are less coy with your other examples.
Ok but I actually love Terri and Alexander from big city greens, just because I thought they had some good scenes
The cancellation was well deserved, considering how one sided it was.
the thing that makes me the most mad about this is that
it's a MARVEL IP, Disney is marvel's n1 fan and releases slop on the yearly after endgame, but when it comes to representation not even the big marvel is safe from disney's hammer
I think the owl house is probably the best when it comes to LGBTQ+ themes and characters
Yet it was cancelled for “not matching the brand” which is corporate speak for them not liking it being lgbt. Still, they used it for their pride month promotion.
@TJ-hg6op Yeah, I'm still pissed that they cancelled it
5:03 same(flashes, nails motion) 5:08 and frankly when I prefer not specify, what kind of gender queer I am, I do use that label out public
MY NAME IS BROOKLYN AHHHHHH
Nahhh, but in the new goosebumps show, a character was very gay and was making out with men.
Wasn't Jackie Lynn Thomas confirmed as bi?
5:11 NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
THAT WAS MY GRAVITY FALLS AFTER GRAVITY FALLS!!
i miss the owl house :/
And they call disney "Woke"
7:14 thank you whoever leaked it!!
There is four. Tyler and his boyfriend. Also, RuPaul is in Amphibia.
1:56 Also just want to mention that Disney did next to nothing before and after release to actually advertise Strange World. Everyone in my local neighborhood that I tried to talk to about the movie at it's release had never even heard of it. Disney sure isn't shy about spamming me with Inside Out 2 ads right now though
the "hi, i'm bi. but you can call me Crit" was so fitting
loved the video. and finale, you got my sub
Ok no lie, i just had to say this, I straight up did not know this show existed until today. That is all.😊
same, i watxhed the banned episode tho. It was really good! it also makes me super happy to see a charater whos openly nonbinary! ( i know thats not the point of the episode but the only nonbinary cartoon character i can think of is raine from the owlhouse and they never outright state theyre nonbinary in the show only outside of the show.)
@ cool
Also the first proper gay rep in Marvel only came this year (Agatha All Along)…
2:22 there is a fourth one but they are background characters
was the video supposed to end here 7:47?
It was an error on my part, and its getting fixed
Me when I heard of owl house in this video: OMG ill have to watch it
Me when I heard they cancelled it: of course they did -_-
Me when I heard about that one episode: I'll have to watch it!
Me when I heard they cancelled it: of course they did -_-
We smoking the Disney pack today
rest in peace Disney studio & Parks anytime soon
😡💢💢You shut up right now! How DARE you say such asinine words?! NEVER, EVER SAY THEM AGAIN!!! Never say "Rest in Peace, Disney Studio and Parks anytime soon"! It's absolutely disgusting!
The Disney Studio and Parks are NOT going to be resting in peace anytime soon! Things at Disney are going to change for the better, and my friends and I are going to make that happen! Along with Elon Musk's help, we're abolishing the woke agenda and making things right at Disney again! I promised Walt Disney that I would save his company and make everything right there again, and I'm keeping that promise! So do me a favor and watch what you say before you sorely regret it!
😡💢💢SHUT UP!!! JUST DO ME A FAVOR AND SHUT YOUR MOUTH!!! How DARE you say such asinine words?!! Neither Disney Studio nor the Disney parks are going "rest in peace" ANYTIME soon! The Disney studio and Parks are going to PROSPER!!! We're gonna make Disney more better than ever, so watch your mouth!!!
okay I know that this is mainly about disney being exposed for their inconsistent ways of representation but what's with the black screen for the rest of the video
It means expect a re-upload soon that fixes that lol
why is your oc so badly cropped
I love the owl house!
Disney: hAy gUYs ToDAY We HaVE gAy ChArACteRS NoW
me: da fuq everything you made that had lgbq+ was cancelled or bombed
whats the music here its awesome
I couldn’t find the song, sorry. But I’d recommend the Descenders soundtrack if you want some music like this :)
Startup Tune Feat. Pizza Hotline by Nuphory
I got permission about a year ago to use their music after my big Velma video, and I use it whenever I’m in a pinch for a soundtrack
I hope the animation guild goes on strike to make lgbtq themes more recognizable and ban that trump is doing bad stuff
owl house.
Why americans never consider other countries
Not cancelled, just not picked up
2:08 BRO I WAS JUST THINK BOUT BLUBS AND DURLAND LMAOO
Disney makes so much money so why should they not make main characters gay, it’s a stupid excuse about not making money in other countries.
wait, Jackie's lesbian? not bi?
I will admit, this is the one I might be wrong about
However, it is my personal headcanon that Marco was such a shitty boyfriend, Jackie had to re-evaluate how much she actually liked boys lol
Star Vs was a mess
@@TheOGCrit typical bi-erasure
Has no pride? Have you not seen the recent Star Wars stuff?
No
There's a trans clone trooper💀
7:11 NOOOO NOT MOONGIRL
They (along with these corporations in large as a whole) don't give a shit
This decision implies they never really cared about the LGBT. They deserve the backlash that’s coming.
Wait what?? Ducktales alien lady was LESBIAN?? IM A TEEN AND I WATCHED THAT AS A KID AND DID NOT GET THAT??
One of my biggest dreams is to create a cartoon that is entertaining for teens and adults as well as kids, (I'm actually already planning the story and characters), with openly queer main characters, showing the world that we exist, deal with it, while not actually having the whole storyline centering about lgbtq+. If I ever get to the point of making it a reality, I don't know what streaming platform would even have it, tbh. I mean, if disney proceeds to be this way, they're just gonna have to deal with missing out on a lot of good stuff >:3
Be an indie animator, be your own boss.
I don't trust modern Disney anymore I'll just stick to old Disney content from the 80s to late 2000s
Also Disney died for me in 2014
Just say you are a bigot and move on
While I don’t agree with the episode entirely, I agree that Disney needs to stop being cowards and stop trying to just allude to characters being gay until the final episode where they can’t get in trouble for it