It took me years to realize TLS's artwork was actually good. Kid me had bad taste. For your interest, Matsuda Kouji is still making art, and his style has become noticeably younger looking and rounder. twitter.com/kouji_matuda/status/1420545614366924805
The little animations during the After School Conversations are super cute...it feels like it matches the art style well. Maybe it's just 'cause of all the over-the-top character designs that tend to be in these kinds of games, but there's something so endearing about the more simple designs and animations.
In a visual standpoint the Conversation minigame is really well made. The idea of talking to the girls in 'real time'(thankfully no timer) while they were 'moving' was really appealing. I was able to see that when I grew older, but young me was complaining on the humongous eyes. Those young people and their bad tastes!
Very informative video! I thought Kimikiss was the first, I never knew it was preceded by an entire series until very recently. My main exposure to these games is through their anime adaptations, so it's no wonder why TLS was unbeknownst to me. I have a huge soft spot for the Kimikiss anime, the tone and writing were down-to-earth in a way I've never seen in an anime before or since. Amagami and PhotoKano's anime adaptions were more typical in that they play into the fanservice and such. When you mentioned that the source material was staunchly committed to being grounded to stand out in its market, it seems the anime adaptation of Kimikiss was the only one that got the memo. A shame it wasn't more well received.
Ahh, I played this game just last year! On fansites I'd often read that the homely, plain artstyle is what gives it it's charm, and I have to agree. Really cute game. Nozomi was my favorite to romance, but the little sister was my favorite character overall. The walking home + food segments took me by surprise, though. "This is just like Tokimeki Girl's Side...!" I like how despite the clunkiness, you can see the seeds of Amagami very well. Thank you for the interesting videos as always!! (^人^)
TLS's Geko Conversation was a real mind blowing concept back then too! Still a lot of fans had beef with the art style mostly in a 'it's weird at first but you get used to it' sort of way. Probably because it wasn't something you commonly see in Gyaruges of that time. Yeah I also was like wow, Misaki actually behaves like a family member. The supporting siblings started getting weird in the following sequels.
I love your videos I'm always looking out for new uploads its so interesting to learn about all these more obscure dating games and similar stuff like it
Is there any chance you'll make a video about Amagami itself? I know that the series is more well known than the other games you'll cover, but i haven't seen anyone touch on the game in-depth on an English channel, and i would really like to see it! Keep up the wonderful work you do on shedding light on obscure games and cheers!
Huh, I assumed there would be at least a few videos on Amagami since some folks cared to release a translation patch for that massive amount of text. To answer your question, I don't have plans to review Amagami right at the moment. Actually someone else asked me on Amagami some while ago, and I answered not until the entire TLS and Kimikiss review, but really depends on how I feel. Wish I had more time making the videos 😂
@@bapsago Yeah, it's a shame no one so far jumped on the opportunity, but i guess dating sims and visual novels are still a niche thing here in the west. I don't mind waiting for Amagami, in fact, i'd love to see the previous entries in more depth, especially KimiKiss! I stumbled upon that game first on a rom/ISO sharing website but it wasn't translated, but in the related section it showed Amagami and i fell in love with that game, so i'd really love to see what the other games were like so i can compare and look how the series evolved over time.
@@bapsago I actually started True Fortune last night! I enjoyed what I played a lot. The art caught my eye because it does not look like the usual otome game art from that time and I Shinya is kind of my jam as far as character types. But then I ended up REALLY liking Takuto. His little Otaku personality was SO endearing and I was kinda annoyed when MC would be a little judgemental. I have been looking for more deep cuts in dating sims/otome games and you always come through!
그쵸 인체도 당시의 젓가락 미소녀들보다 더 굴곡있게 그렸다능.. 근데 갈수록 그림체가 많이 로리로리하게 바뀌셨더라고요. 저때처럼 적당히 길었을때도 괜찮았는데.. 만나고 싶어서 작화는 정말 무슨생각으로 완성작이라고 냈는지 의심이 됩니다. 언니 지인은 걸즈사이드4 이벤트 CG를 아이타쿠테랑 비교하던데, 정말 그 정도로 심하나 싶은ㅋㅋㅋ 하긴사 GS3탄의 보정인?이 없었는지 확실히 더 후져보이긴 했어요.
I love the down to earth natural artstyle of the game! It's so interesting learning about the history of dating sim games!! :3 Also, what manga is this character from? 16:48
TLS's art style certainly stood out amongst the popular Bishoujo aesthetics on the 90's. I was so immature to deem it 'bad'. The character's Makimura Miki from Nagai Go's 1973 manga Devilman. I recommend reading it if you're into Japanese dark fantasy/apocalyptic genres(like Berserk), since this manga pretty much influenced them.
Great video!! The "walking home together" segments are fascinating to me... gameplay aside, I don't think I've ever seen anything quite like it in a dating sim visually, simple and charming. The randomness in games like this is so annoying!! Save scumming shouldn't be a necessary component of gameplay imoooo
TLS from the beginning had a lot of potential if they were able put themselves apart from the huge wave of Bishoujo Dating Sims in the 90's. I guess it is possible to see at least a normal ending with good RNG(On my first playthrough I saw Chiharu's ending without loading only because I met her the most lol), but you'll be missing out on a lot of events. A sure way to sell strategy guides, but thankfully in this day and age we're blessed with the Internet and dedicated fans.
An excellent video, as always! You mentioned Sentimental Graffitti positively...that is unlike the standard media!
Thanks! imo the illustrations were Sentimental Graffiti's strongest suit. Too bad we don't get to see it in the actual game.
The art style reminds me a lot of how 80's anime and manga are drawn, so it's a plus for me!
It took me years to realize TLS's artwork was actually good. Kid me had bad taste.
For your interest, Matsuda Kouji is still making art, and his style has become noticeably younger looking and rounder. twitter.com/kouji_matuda/status/1420545614366924805
The little animations during the After School Conversations are super cute...it feels like it matches the art style well. Maybe it's just 'cause of all the over-the-top character designs that tend to be in these kinds of games, but there's something so endearing about the more simple designs and animations.
In a visual standpoint the Conversation minigame is really well made. The idea of talking to the girls in 'real time'(thankfully no timer) while they were 'moving' was really appealing. I was able to see that when I grew older, but young me was complaining on the humongous eyes. Those young people and their bad tastes!
Wow I didn't know Amagami was connected to so many other games. Amazing indepth video as always.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Very informative video! I thought Kimikiss was the first, I never knew it was preceded by an entire series until very recently. My main exposure to these games is through their anime adaptations, so it's no wonder why TLS was unbeknownst to me.
I have a huge soft spot for the Kimikiss anime, the tone and writing were down-to-earth in a way I've never seen in an anime before or since. Amagami and PhotoKano's anime adaptions were more typical in that they play into the fanservice and such. When you mentioned that the source material was staunchly committed to being grounded to stand out in its market, it seems the anime adaptation of Kimikiss was the only one that got the memo. A shame it wasn't more well received.
Thanks for letting me know there's a fan patch for Amagami!
The anime (Amagami SS) introduced me to the dating sim concept, so it is interesting seeing its origin.
Ahh, I played this game just last year! On fansites I'd often read that the homely, plain artstyle is what gives it it's charm, and I have to agree. Really cute game. Nozomi was my favorite to romance, but the little sister was my favorite character overall. The walking home + food segments took me by surprise, though. "This is just like Tokimeki Girl's Side...!" I like how despite the clunkiness, you can see the seeds of Amagami very well. Thank you for the interesting videos as always!! (^人^)
TLS's Geko Conversation was a real mind blowing concept back then too! Still a lot of fans had beef with the art style mostly in a 'it's weird at first but you get used to it' sort of way. Probably because it wasn't something you commonly see in Gyaruges of that time.
Yeah I also was like wow, Misaki actually behaves like a family member. The supporting siblings started getting weird in the following sequels.
Unexpected Devilman reference got me smiling ear to ear~ Good work as always!
I very frequent derail and cross reference. And I like Devilman :D Happy you liked the video!
이런 고퀄의 영상이 있었다니요!!!ㅠㅠㅠ
15주년 기념으로 아마가미 한글패치가 나왔다길래 찾다가 우연히 영상을 보게됐는데 정말 감탄했습니당
앞으로도 자주 찾아뵙겠습니다ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
감사합니다! 아마가미 발매되고 오덕들이 굉장한 게임이다 난리났던 것도 벌써 15년 전이던가요.. 아득합니다ㅋㅋ 텍스트량도 만만치 않은데 패치 제작하시는 분들 열정이 정말 대단하다고 매번 느낍나다.
I love your videos I'm always looking out for new uploads its so interesting to learn about all these more obscure dating games and similar stuff like it
I'm here to inform! Thank you so much.
Is there any chance you'll make a video about Amagami itself? I know that the series is more well known than the other games you'll cover, but i haven't seen anyone touch on the game in-depth on an English channel, and i would really like to see it! Keep up the wonderful work you do on shedding light on obscure games and cheers!
Huh, I assumed there would be at least a few videos on Amagami since some folks cared to release a translation patch for that massive amount of text.
To answer your question, I don't have plans to review Amagami right at the moment. Actually someone else asked me on Amagami some while ago, and I answered not until the entire TLS and Kimikiss review, but really depends on how I feel. Wish I had more time making the videos 😂
@@bapsago Yeah, it's a shame no one so far jumped on the opportunity, but i guess dating sims and visual novels are still a niche thing here in the west.
I don't mind waiting for Amagami, in fact, i'd love to see the previous entries in more depth, especially KimiKiss! I stumbled upon that game first on a rom/ISO sharing website but it wasn't translated, but in the related section it showed Amagami and i fell in love with that game, so i'd really love to see what the other games were like so i can compare and look how the series evolved over time.
Ah let me add True Fortune to the growing list. I actually may check out Amagami it looks cute and I want to start playing bishoujo games.
They're both good!
@@bapsago I actually started True Fortune last night! I enjoyed what I played a lot. The art caught my eye because it does not look like the usual otome game art from that time and I Shinya is kind of my jam as far as character types. But then I ended up REALLY liking Takuto. His little Otaku personality was SO endearing and I was kinda annoyed when MC would be a little judgemental. I have been looking for more deep cuts in dating sims/otome games and you always come through!
처음볼땐 옛날게임다운 틀내나는그림이구나 싶었는데 계속보니까 무난하고 괜찮아보이네요 ㅋㅋ
만나고싶어서...같은거 보다가 이거보니 준수한편이구나싶은느낌..
하교시간 대화이벤트는 도키걸즈 대접근모드 생각나는거같기도하고
아마가미나 트루포춘이 이쪽 가계도에 속한걸 오늘처음알아갑니다
그쵸 인체도 당시의 젓가락 미소녀들보다 더 굴곡있게 그렸다능.. 근데 갈수록 그림체가 많이 로리로리하게 바뀌셨더라고요. 저때처럼 적당히 길었을때도 괜찮았는데..
만나고 싶어서 작화는 정말 무슨생각으로 완성작이라고 냈는지 의심이 됩니다. 언니 지인은 걸즈사이드4 이벤트 CG를 아이타쿠테랑 비교하던데, 정말 그 정도로 심하나 싶은ㅋㅋㅋ 하긴사 GS3탄의 보정인?이 없었는지 확실히 더 후져보이긴 했어요.
@@bapsago GS4는 일단 캐릭터디자인부터 진입장벽이라는 느낌이 강하더라구요
개인적으로는 2가 가장 무난하고좋았던 기억이... 제일 재밌게해서 보정들어간거일수도있는데 ㅋㅋ
I love the down to earth natural artstyle of the game! It's so interesting learning about the history of dating sim games!! :3
Also, what manga is this character from? 16:48
TLS's art style certainly stood out amongst the popular Bishoujo aesthetics on the 90's. I was so immature to deem it 'bad'.
The character's Makimura Miki from Nagai Go's 1973 manga Devilman. I recommend reading it if you're into Japanese dark fantasy/apocalyptic genres(like Berserk), since this manga pretty much influenced them.
@@bapsago I always liked the more natural anime artstyle. (with natural hair colors) :3
Omg! I heard of Devilman!! Imma have to read it!
Great video!! The "walking home together" segments are fascinating to me... gameplay aside, I don't think I've ever seen anything quite like it in a dating sim visually, simple and charming. The randomness in games like this is so annoying!! Save scumming shouldn't be a necessary component of gameplay imoooo
TLS from the beginning had a lot of potential if they were able put themselves apart from the huge wave of Bishoujo Dating Sims in the 90's.
I guess it is possible to see at least a normal ending with good RNG(On my first playthrough I saw Chiharu's ending without loading only because I met her the most lol), but you'll be missing out on a lot of events. A sure way to sell strategy guides, but thankfully in this day and age we're blessed with the Internet and dedicated fans.
It's a fantastic game but yet, it still needs an English translation.
오오~이런 게임이 있었다니 몰랐던 이야기네요~항상 좋은 정보 얻어가요~