A 3D map would be more informative. With systems belonging to different factions could be sandwiched on top of each other and not just on a flat plane. Beside that it's great that the Alien universe is getting fleshed out 😄
The maps are from the Alien RPG book. It would be quite the undertaking for a content creator to develop an accurate map. But I agree the book is absolutely what the Alien franchise needed
Smashing video! This fills in lots of the geo(spatio?)political cartographic questions I've had with the ALIEN universe for years....had to tell you how just much I have enjoyed this. Well done :) (oh and here did you get the large overview map btw? if you don't mind my query?)
Really glad you appericate this video because it was one i reallly wanted to make to teach the wider alien community about the alien galaxy and how it functions. the map comes with a purchase of free legues Alien: The Role Playing game
@@ProjectACHERON it was super fascinating I am genuinely enjoying your deep dives into the politics and history within the wider lore of the ALIENverse :)
This is the best Alien information site!!!! It's like taking Alien 101. 😎 I'd like to know more about other alien races other than the xenomorphs in the Alien universe. I keep thinking the Colonial Marines mentioned something while joking around. Also, what was going on on Earth while Dallas and the crew were in space?
Haha yes it certainly seems like humanity will find it hard to draw itself limits considering the vast expanse of the milky way galaxy. Spice will be the least of their worries!
In the normal, sublight Einsteinian universe, the faster a person goes then time slows down for the person; this has been proven with atomic clocks on planes. In the normal universe, nothing can go faster than light. Traveling FTL requires entering into another dimension, with its own physics which allows FTL travel. In the Alien universe, FTL space will drive an awake human to go insane. Thus, hyperspace travel is done with humans in hypersleep and unconscious. Thus, a limited amount of consumables is on a ship; thus the time pressure in ALIEN ( the crew can’t go into hyperspace and make progress on their trip home unless they can go into hyper sleep; in ALIEN Lambert states they are at Zeta II Reticula which is 39 light years from Earth; halfway between Earth and Thedus.). Also, in hyperspace, time passes quicker aboard ship than in the rest of the universe as is stated in published Aliens reference materials. Thus, if a ship takes eight months to make a journey through hyperspace as measured by the normal universe, about 200 years passes aboard ship. This is another reason for the crew to go into hypersleep, and why ships have rugged and clunky tech ( the ship machinery and computers have to put up with being able to be survive hundreds of years of subjective ship time while in hyperspace).
In the normal universe, nothing goes faster than light and the faster you go time slows down for the traveler. If you could get close to light speed, you could live to cross the entire galaxy. This has been proved with clocks on planes. However, this is the physics of the normal, or sublight, universe. In Aliens published reference manuals, it is stated that in faster than light travel, in hyperspace, time on board speeds up ( it is another dimension, with its own physics). Thus, from the normal universe point of view, it may take 16 months for a ship to go from Thedus to Earth ( about 78 light years since in Alien, the Nostromo is at Zeta Reticula II which is 39 light years away and Lambert states they are only halfway home with eight months to go). However, hundreds of years of time will have passed aboard ship as it travels FTL through hyperspace.
If any of you find yourself on an alien world, keep your helmet on before you poke the unidentified black fungus that is a inch from your face. Trust me
Using the distance from Earth to Zeta Reticuli as a 39.17 ly benchmark, Prometheus took two years, Nostromo would have taken 10 months, and help from Earth would take 17 days in "Aliens". Sulaco's speed converts to Warp 9.4, just as a comparison.
on another of these videos there was speculation about whether the space jockeys were different from the engineers. but here's a thought a species that creates other creatures was once intimidated by space travel and thus engineered some special individuals to do that job. and so the space jockey is an engineer just a specially bioengineered one, specially modified to survive in space. made giant for zero G grafted into the ships controls and genetically altered to live longer negating the need for hyper sleep or better yet the whole pilots chamber is a hyper sleep capsule either way just cause they look so different doesn't necessarily mean they are different species
Great job. Though I'm not sure how cannon any of this is since it's never been mentioned in the movies, though it'd be nice if it were more fleshed out if we ever get another cinematic installment. Also, I'd really like to know what type of ftl ships use, since we've only ever seen them traveling at sublight speeds.
@@ProjectACHERON So all of the novels, comics and Alien RPG are all under Disney/Fox? I just wanted to know. Because anyone can write a book or make a game about it, but that doesn't make them canon.
Is there a place to buy this map print and have it framed. I'm a huge geography nerd and Alien/AVP is my favorite SciFi franchise along with Star Wars. I got to get this in my man cave/office!
@@xenomorphicdna finally decided to cough up the $40 and buy the Alien RPG just for the map. It comes on a really nice print. Getting it custom framed at hobby lobby for my geek den. Can’t wait!
I wonder if the vast distances and the fact that it seems even the engineers do not have ftl that can cross the galaxy relatively quick is why their tech is bio organic.. it can regenerate rather than needing to repair
Love your channel! I love ominous Alien corporation vibes. But to me the ICSC looks plain yellow instead of gold, and the frontier seems purple instead of pink. You might wanna get your eyes checked...
Time for my comment. I think I speak for all the fans when I say. Dark descent, was the best Aliens game made to this date. And Fireteam is just as good. So to further the franchise we really need to include some of these, other factions. If were to preserve our favorite universe, we've all got to keep things, streamlined and what i mean by this is AVP, or Engineers, or this correlation of blade runner and Aliens. We need to have more structure in this story telling, and really include and define the universe.
Ok, this is a badass video, but the map's distances in relation to Earth, LV-426 and Thadeus are bugging me, since Lambert mentioned a half-way point in their travel. Does that look halfway to you!?
@@ProjectACHERON you're absolutely right i just have a thing about nations being named "progressive" or "the peoples" or "the democratic" etc. Excellent vid by the way
I always wondered how many planets humanity colonized since I saw Prometheus.i always wondered if that engineer made of planet could he actually destroy humanity and get to earth.
The funny thing about that is that the star maps the Engineer ship had haven't been updated in 2,000 years. This presents the possibility that he sets course for Earth, and gets there to find empty space because it moved. D'oh!
Further to *Skeptical Guardsman's* comment. I would have liked some frame of reference for the worlds featured in the Aliens Universe indicated on this star chart. It took me a while (with my ageing eyesight) to locate ZETA 2 RETICULI [location of LV426/Acheron] in the Trailward sector of the chart. But where the OREGI B system is located is still a mystery. The position where the Nostromo's shuttle - 'Narcissus' was finally located should have been plotted along with all other relevant locations - in EASY to READ font. . So generally not impressed as the political machinations (sovereignties, territories and borders) of humans is and always will be irrelevant.
Why aren’t we at least trying to build a Nostromos with accompanying oil refinery? I looked at the plans , fuel and tech , I know the earth is flat and waters above are a super high viscosity fluid, I think it would be a wise puddle jumper. If earth gravity is like a capacitor it should make it to the dome and maybe through to the super fluid. It’s a very good design to start from I think there are a lot of truth drops in the movies , such as it’s water hyper drive and potassium based fuel , towing a lifetime worth of Hygrocarbons is also a good idea. Nostromos is a kick ass machine Someone better try to escape from techno Marxism prison planet .
Found your channel yesterday, was not dissapointed, keep up the great work.
Awesome, welcome aboard, and thank you!
This is some type of favorite lore in a franchise.
A 3D map would be more informative. With systems belonging to different factions could be sandwiched on top of each other and not just on a flat plane.
Beside that it's great that the Alien universe is getting fleshed out 😄
MUTHUR 9000 has a 3d version!
@@ProjectACHERON Do you have a link for it?
@@ProjectACHERON ... link?
The maps are from the Alien RPG book. It would be quite the undertaking for a content creator to develop an accurate map. But I agree the book is absolutely what the Alien franchise needed
@@toadfaceass, TH-cam won't allow posting links to non-TH-cam material. Try it and your post will be removed. Been there, done that.
This is awesome. I would love to see more of the alien universe on film.
Same here, we can only hope one day it will happen
where do you get your info from dude? love your channel. your coming like the luetin09 of the alien world! smashing it!
Smashing video! This fills in lots of the geo(spatio?)political cartographic questions I've had with the ALIEN universe for years....had to tell you how just much I have enjoyed this. Well done :)
(oh and here did you get the large overview map btw? if you don't mind my query?)
Really glad you appericate this video because it was one i reallly wanted to make to teach the wider alien community about the alien galaxy and how it functions. the map comes with a purchase of free legues Alien: The Role Playing game
@@ProjectACHERON it was super fascinating I am genuinely enjoying your deep dives into the politics and history within the wider lore of the ALIENverse :)
This is the best Alien information site!!!! It's like taking Alien 101. 😎
I'd like to know more about other alien races other than the xenomorphs in the Alien universe. I keep thinking the Colonial Marines mentioned something while joking around.
Also, what was going on on Earth while Dallas and the crew were in space?
I want to keep covering all that and as for the other speices i do indeed have videos up on all that, which will keep expanding.
Newish to the alien franchise as of Romulus. Thanks for this info.
I find your videos very entertaining :)
Glad you think so that means alot !
Is the term "Middle Heavens" trademarked? Anyone know? Also how accurate are the star maps to the reality of the stars in our world?
Basically every stars in the middle heavens represents a real star in our actually galaxy for the most part
Terrific job! 👏🏻
Thanks
Love this channel...my 2 favorite...this and alien theory
Great video thanks! But FYI, the clip from 9:39 to 9:43 has a false start you probably meant to edit out.
Also 10:14 to 10:17.
thanks for the tip, glad you enjoyed the video!
Thanks for the info dude, the universe of Alien always seemed so nebulous to me
no worries
Splendid! The endless resource and expansion of humanity never stops!
The -Spice- Minerals must flow!
Haha yes it certainly seems like humanity will find it hard to draw itself limits considering the vast expanse of the milky way galaxy. Spice will be the least of their worries!
@@ProjectACHERON Indeed AvP universe has several aggressive competitors to humanity
Absolutely!
Yes! The minerals must flow! We require more minerals! Spawn more overlords!
In the normal, sublight Einsteinian universe, the faster a person goes then time slows down for the person; this has been proven with atomic clocks on planes. In the normal universe, nothing can go faster than light. Traveling FTL requires entering into another dimension, with its own physics which allows FTL travel. In the Alien universe, FTL space will drive an awake human to go insane. Thus, hyperspace travel is done with humans in hypersleep and unconscious. Thus, a limited amount of consumables is on a ship; thus the time pressure in ALIEN ( the crew can’t go into hyperspace and make progress on their trip home unless they can go into hyper sleep; in ALIEN Lambert states they are at Zeta II Reticula which is 39 light years from Earth; halfway between Earth and Thedus.). Also, in hyperspace, time passes quicker aboard ship than in the rest of the universe as is stated in published Aliens reference materials. Thus, if a ship takes eight months to make a journey through hyperspace as measured by the normal universe, about 200 years passes aboard ship. This is another reason for the crew to go into hypersleep, and why ships have rugged and clunky tech ( the ship machinery and computers have to put up with being able to be survive hundreds of years of subjective ship time while in hyperspace).
Is this all an actual thing becuase i though that the time dialation this worked in the oposite capacity?
In the normal universe, nothing goes faster than light and the faster you go time slows down for the traveler. If you could get close to light speed, you could live to cross the entire galaxy. This has been proved with clocks on planes. However, this is the physics of the normal, or sublight, universe. In Aliens published reference manuals, it is stated that in faster than light travel, in hyperspace, time on board speeds up ( it is another dimension, with its own physics). Thus, from the normal universe point of view, it may take 16 months for a ship to go from Thedus to Earth ( about 78 light years since in Alien, the Nostromo is at Zeta Reticula II which is 39 light years away and Lambert states they are only halfway home with eight months to go). However, hundreds of years of time will have passed aboard ship as it travels FTL through hyperspace.
@@gordondavis6168 Does that mean consumables will decay faster or what did you mean by "limited amount of consumables is on a ship"
So...this means that the extended warranty I got will expire sooner?
@@gordondavis6168 what about the map? Thedus to Earth's halfway point looks more in the Fiorina system than in Zeta 2 Reticuli...
If any of you find yourself on an alien world, keep your helmet on before you poke the unidentified black fungus that is a inch from your face. Trust me
Good advice!
the universe
Yes
Great maps!how do they travel guessing sub light speeds?
Using the distance from Earth to Zeta Reticuli as a 39.17 ly benchmark, Prometheus took two years, Nostromo would have taken 10 months, and help from Earth would take 17 days in "Aliens".
Sulaco's speed converts to Warp 9.4, just as a comparison.
Outstanding!
Glad you like it!
It would be cool if you could tell where the planet where the movie Alien takes place is.
You can, its LV-426, its a moon of the planet Calpamos in the Zeta 2 Reticulli Star System it is definitely on the map!
Love to find a map of this:)
It’s within the game ALIEN the RPG
on another of these videos there was speculation about whether the space jockeys were different from the engineers. but here's a thought a species that creates other creatures was once intimidated by space travel and thus engineered some special individuals to do that job. and so the space jockey is an engineer just a specially bioengineered one, specially modified to survive in space. made giant for zero G grafted into the ships controls and genetically altered to live longer negating the need for hyper sleep or better yet the whole pilots chamber is a hyper sleep capsule either way just cause they look so different doesn't necessarily mean they are different species
my only question is what does the middle heavens look like in alien resurrection?
We should eventually find out in the RPG as its is progressing in time currently its about to start exploring the 2200s
It's all bought out by Walmart.
Great job. Though I'm not sure how cannon any of this is since it's never been mentioned in the movies, though it'd be nice if it were more fleshed out if we ever get another cinematic installment. Also, I'd really like to know what type of ftl ships use, since we've only ever seen them traveling at sublight speeds.
@Claire Enright I understand, but what qualifies any of that as canon specifically?
Disney/fox does they have an official canon timeline
@@ProjectACHERON So all of the novels, comics and Alien RPG are all under Disney/Fox? I just wanted to know. Because anyone can write a book or make a game about it, but that doesn't make them canon.
Several articles on here show something called a "tachyon shunt" as being the most common form of FTL.
Hey project archeron what do you want to see in the cold iron alien game
Really anything at this point!
Is there a place to buy this map print and have it framed. I'm a huge geography nerd and Alien/AVP is my favorite SciFi franchise along with Star Wars. I got to get this in my man cave/office!
It's from the Alien RPG
You might have to look around, but Im pretty sure some people own big ol versions of that map
@@xenomorphicdna finally decided to cough up the $40 and buy the Alien RPG just for the map. It comes on a really nice print. Getting it custom framed at hobby lobby for my geek den. Can’t wait!
So Human Space is divided between Pan-Americans, Anglo-Japanese, Neo-Soviets, and Megacorps?
I wonder if the vast distances and the fact that it seems even the engineers do not have ftl that can cross the galaxy relatively quick is why their tech is bio organic.. it can regenerate rather than needing to repair
Where do even get this info? Good video 👌
This is specifically from the new Alien RPG
@@ProjectACHERON wow a month later. Lol
where did this come from
Alien The RPG
Hey, I’m pretty sure I saw a movie about that Covenant ship!
Love your channel! I love ominous Alien corporation vibes. But to me the ICSC looks plain yellow instead of gold, and the frontier seems purple instead of pink. You might wanna get your eyes checked...
Time for my comment. I think I speak for all the fans when I say. Dark descent, was the best Aliens game made to this date. And Fireteam is just as good. So to further the franchise we really need to include some of these, other factions. If were to preserve our favorite universe, we've all got to keep things, streamlined and what i mean by this is AVP, or Engineers, or this correlation of blade runner and Aliens. We need to have more structure in this story telling, and really include and define the universe.
Ok, this is a badass video, but the map's distances in relation to Earth, LV-426 and Thadeus are bugging me, since Lambert mentioned a half-way point in their travel. Does that look halfway to you!?
Can I get a link to the map, want to save it?
"... very interesting, but so many forget that space is 3-dimensional ... and if space is infinite, distance becomes relative and thus unmappable...
Where did you get the background music from?
Where is Thadeus in relation to these territories?
Excellent. Thank the Queen Mother Empress the UPP is so very insignificant.
I wouldn't say they are insignificant, they are currently the second most powerful human federation!
@@ProjectACHERON you're absolutely right i just have a thing about nations being named "progressive" or "the peoples" or "the democratic" etc. Excellent vid by the way
I always wondered how many planets humanity colonized since I saw Prometheus.i always wondered if that engineer made of planet could he actually destroy humanity and get to earth.
The funny thing about that is that the star maps the Engineer ship had haven't been updated in 2,000 years. This presents the possibility that he sets course for Earth, and gets there to find empty space because it moved. D'oh!
@@spaceflight1019 😂
Where is Yautja space?
Possibly where the lost colonies are..
There are 76 people in this comment section. Think about that. We've gotta be the nerdiest people on the planet
Certainly am one myself. I’m here sir, and I’m not sorry about it.
Further to *Skeptical Guardsman's* comment. I would have liked some frame of reference for the worlds featured in the Aliens Universe indicated on this star chart. It took me a while (with my ageing eyesight) to locate ZETA 2 RETICULI [location of LV426/Acheron] in the Trailward sector of the chart. But where the OREGI B system is located is still a mystery. The position where the Nostromo's shuttle - 'Narcissus' was finally located should have been plotted along with all other relevant locations - in EASY to READ font.
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So generally not impressed as the political machinations (sovereignties, territories and borders) of humans is and always will be irrelevant.
yeah okay ill have try and redo this video at some point!
Why aren’t we at least trying to build a Nostromos with accompanying oil refinery?
I looked at the plans , fuel and tech , I know the earth is flat and waters above are a super high viscosity fluid, I think it would be a wise puddle jumper.
If earth gravity is like a capacitor it should make it to the dome and maybe through to the super fluid.
It’s a very good design to start from
I think there are a lot of truth drops in the movies , such as it’s water hyper drive and potassium based fuel , towing a lifetime worth of Hygrocarbons is also a good idea.
Nostromos is a kick ass machine
Someone better try to escape from techno Marxism prison planet .
delicious knowledge 🤔😏 humans matters mean nothing to me but ever little helps😁. great stuff . #weylandyutani #middleheavensregion
🙌
Oof. Editing on this one was... bad.
what was wrong with it
@@ProjectACHERON the abrupt pauses weren't edited out to preserve narration cadence.