@@gentlemanvontweed7147 Ummm... I guess look at Mass Effect (or any sci-fi franchise really) for a preview? There's probably a good chance you won't be alive to witness it.
If FTL is impossible, the resources required to launch colony ships across the interstellar void to destinations that may or may not support them seems wasteful. Especially when you consider that with same resources you could build another orbital habitat that could house millions. Which would you rather, build another habitat to reduce the strain on earth's ecosystem, or send a small group of people on a generational trip that will probably end in failure? Humans would probably just densely populate the solar system rather than spread out to other systems.
@@etienne8110 Not really. Expansion due to overproductive reproduction is a universal trait of all lifeforms on Earth. It's not a huge leap to assume that alien life behaves similar.
Humanity is already at a point of having unprotected sex with extinction imho, the only question is wether or not we can find the cure for the extinction-level STDs we're getting.
The thing that really blows my nipples right off is the fact that this conversation is just about one galaxy, the Milky Way. Now remember that there are billions upon billions of galaxies, many of them vastly larger than our own. It's bonkers and absolutely mind boggling.
Right?! I find that I constantly remind myself, "and this is JUST the Milky Way" - I don't know what for, since it's not like I can really comprehend the ginormity of the universe, but yeah.
There's one complication: we don't actually need to live on planets. With the high tech that allows interstellar travel, you can easily build giant space stations to live on, powered by your friendly neighbourhood fusion reactor (your Sun) even if you yourself haven't figured out fusion.
And if you find a decent sized rock with some uranium or thorium in it, you can live on that for thousands of years. This would allow you to travel interstellar distances, just by hanging out and waiting for generations on a rock. Also, the stars move, meaning that any civilization in a star system that lasts for millions of years, will inevitably have a close encounter with another star.
But a planet is always preferable though. No tech can match the scale and freedom you have on a planet (that suits your needs). You could get close though, with enormous stations powered by an artificial sun and other trickery. But at that point it's probably easier to just find or terraform a planet.
While I get what you are saying, unlimited energy is not everything required to live, water is important too. Thus, finding a planet with water and actually living on it would be much more cost efficient than transporting that water to a space station.
Hey Venus gets less credit than it deserves, sure the surface is hellish but go a few kilometres up and it's a warm earth like temperature and pressure with adequate radiation protection, the same gravity as earth and no acid rain. I see the prospect of making a balloon to be far more in our grasp than making artificial gravity or an atmosphere and magnetic field
Imagine a star system with not one, but two terran planets. How exciting would be when one notices the other and realizes there is life on their neighbour.
Just for the fun of it, I have translated every single space letter into our alphabet based on how they are shown in each topic's title. So here's what every single timestamp of the video says: 0:49 - Teddy. Daniela. Mari. Yvo. *Asteroids!!!!* 2:56 - C-A-S galaxy Simba Nala Mufasa Salem Group Mrs. Norris System Cheshire Cluster Tom ?i?i Cluster [Could be Jiji, Qiqi or Zizi. These 3 letters were never presented in their space form] Crookshanks Cluster Garfield Group Meowyh Star 8:24 - Send donuts! 8:33 - The Great Frog Of Frogisland 8:37 - Lunch Date at ? PM Today [Could be any number] Don't forget! *Vessel Approaching!* 8:58 - How dare you!!! 9:04 - Easter System
@@bielvv9148 I noticed that at every transition (such as 1:06, 3:05, 5:54 and 9:23) every word had the same amount of letters in Space Alphabet and Latin Alphabet, so assuming they were the same letters, I have made a little sheet where I converted every Space Letter into their Latin equivalent. From there it was pretty easy to rewrite every other word shown in the video
@@Montlev Ooooooh that is so genious, I hadn't even thought about that lol. Good job man! Also, I just thought about it. This means that someone at Kurzgezagt went through elaborating an alien alphabet and writting the words for the video🤯
Alien diplomat: So, show me, what is humanitys latest big pop culture series? Alien agent: Sir, its called skibidi toilett. It seems to affect there youngest generation. Here are some short clips for it. Alien diplomat: I thing we wait another 1.000 years before comming back.
@Haha.your.reading.this.idiot. Just _sounds_ authoritative, you know 😂😂 Honestly, their contents aren't bad, but the scale looks too massive (can't really describe the feeling
Well you don’t wanna get poisoned, burn and melt at the same time. That’s why Venus offer right now pretty straightforward I must say, compared to Mars Humans still has chance to survive by bunker inside Mars to avoid radiation
I find one of the greatest ironies of interstellar colonization is that if you have the ability to create ships to travel those vast distances, or settle on the surface of extremely marginal planets like Mars, you've also the ability to make artificial habitats, bottle worlds, completely undercutting the need to colonize another planet in the most extreme version of an invasive species. This actually makes colonizing other systems easier because you don't need to look for planets to live on, the asteroids within a system become a more valuable resource because of accessability. This also means you don't need to go sailing off vast distances because just about any system will do, which means expansion happens in small jumps rather than great leaps. This keeps inter-planetary civilizations quite compact, even if each system in that civilization might have a much greater population than a planet might sustain.
Yeah and any civilization near a blackhole has a megastructural starting bonus since nearly all blackhole megastructures are fairly easy compared to other objects since its WAY easier to collect energy from a blackhole than a star resource and time wise
@@generaldelasmontanas2699 Yeah, exactly. People will colonize other planets because we .. emmm.. don't like other people sometimes. And distance is good way to be out of reach of those people. Ask Europeans which go to the New World to go out of European monarchies sphere of influence.
@@generaldelasmontanas2699 It bears pointing out that what drove the initial wave of exploration from Europe wasn't to settle somewhere, it was to make ridiculous amounts of MONEY by bypassing existing trade routes and monopolies. The colonization was a byproduct. I suppose a decent historical parallel is how the Dutch just made more land to farm instead of relying on colonial expansion. Oh sure, they had colonies, but those were about resource extraction for making said ridiculous amounts of MONEY rather than finding somewhere to live. Dutch colonialism wouldn't have worked without native populations to -enslave- offer minimum wage jobs to, while the polders were entirely homegrown. Another might be the Boat People in SE Asia, where whole communities float on rafts/barges because it's a better use of resources than taking up land with homes.
This is religious. They’re trying to convince themselves that aliens exist, and that interstellar travel is possible. Just look at their goofy Mars and Venus terraforming videos for reference.
I'd love to see an episode exploring this theme more, regarding all the means of communication that other civilizations might be using, that we are not or cannot yet look for.
right, because Germany and France are famously still at war the century-long conflicts that endure, endure because you have a continued personal stake in it (e.g. religious), and often occur over fighting over a singular resource (be that land/rights/etc)-which isn't really the case in separate solar systems
“No man’s sky” is a perfect game to represent this idea. If you play the game blindly, you may never find a earth like planet, even a pretty planet can have a environment or creature that will kill you
Hilariously, on my current save, I spawned on an inhospitable ice planet... whose moon is basically perfect. It has zero environmental hazards, zero hostile creatures, and I've barely seen any sentinels on it (they are not hostile anyway). Bonus points: I built a base on the ice planet because it's prettier, just on top of a random hill that had vaguely good views and was near a ground station. Then, after I unlocked the resource visor, I discovered that I accidentally built right next to a dioxite deposit... which effectively means my life support will never run out, because I have way more dioxite than I can possibly use up on charging it.
In my 400+ hours of playing no man's sky I landed on around 2000+ planets on my journey through black holes to the centre of the galaxy. I came across 3 planets that were similar to earth. The first one was the most similar but had no fauna. The second one had fauna and realistic mountains and continents but was incredibly toxic. The third one ticked all the boxes but had weird floating mountains so was a no go. I'm still trying to find a planet to build my homebase on but so far have had no luck. I should have just stuck with the third one.
To extend the analogy - knowing what happened when other civilisations discovered the Polynesians suddenly makes the idea of us meeting with aliens pretty scary
Kind of a tangent, but I've noticed a lot of media from the post-colonial seem to be unintentionally expressing fear and guilt at what built modern society. Especially the alien invasion. People with an unfamiliar culture and society wielding advanced technology show up and subjugate our entire society in an attempt to wither extract resources, assimilate, or exterminate in order to take the land. The imperial/colonial guilt inherent to the genre doesn't even seem intentional. Especially in the 80s and 90s. But it's there because art reflects life.
1. Complex life being really difficult to evolve and 2. the chances that two civilizations occupy the same epoch in time really should not be underestimated.
It takes A LOT of evolution for a world to evolve a species that has at least human level intelligence and is even more advanced than we are. If you look at our world over a span of 4.5 billion years you will see countless species of life from the smallest microbes to the largest whales and dinosaurs yet in all of that time our world has only produced ONE species that is somewhat tech advanced. I say "somewhat" because we sure are not at the level of the aliens in this video. I do not believe that life is rare. I think its very common but that only a very very tiny percentage of worlds with life get to the point of advanced technology. I believe that almost all inhabited worlds just have plants, animals and sometimes beings with human level intellect but low technology. 2 high tech species being near each other (within 10 light years lets say) is like 2 state lottery winners happening to be next door neighbors.
It takes a lot of evolution for a world to evolve a species that has at least human level intelligence and is even more advanced than we are. If you look at our world over a span of 4.5 billion years you will see countless species of life from the smallest microbes to the largest whales and dinosaurs yet in all of that time our world has only produced one species that is somewhat tech advanced. I say "somewhat" because we sure are not at the level of the aliens in this video. I do not believe that life is rare. I think its very common but that only a very very tiny percentage of worlds with life get to the point of advanced technology. I believe that almost all inhabited worlds just have plants, animals and sometimes beings with human level intellect but low technology. 2 high tech species being near each other (within 10 light years lets say) is like 2 state lottery winners happening to be next door neighbors.
Another thing is the jump from complex life to space faring societal life. Complex life was on Earth for well over a Billion years, full brains, cortexes, highly specialized abilities etc etc were here for hundreds of millions of years and not a single one of them figured out you could use rocks to break stuff. Let alone space travel. Humanity existing is a very recent thing, humanity having space travel is a very very VERY recent thing in the geological scale.
one of my favorite things about this channel is just how obvious it is that you guys put love and care into every tiny detail of your projects- even your advertisements are selected with thoughtfulness! thanks for all you do, Kurzgesagt!
I love how Kurzgesagt ranges wildly between (1) extremely grounded facts based on cold-hard-established science; and (2) ambitious speculations based on hot-crazy assumptions. Always a joy to watch, sometimes for the information, while others for the imagination. Best!
Why do we still have the primitive need to spread and colonize like animals if we have advanced control of our biology? Why is the future advanced in ONLY one way? We have starships, but medicine hasn't advanced at all? Makes zero sense.
Hello, let's assume that math is universal. My problem with communication with aliens is empathy, or rather intentionality. In general, you need to know when someone is sending a signal or not. For instance we emit transmissions, heat and radiation into space all the time. And yet we send probes with special information for aliens. Sure, but how do they know what is part of the engine and what isn't? We recieve Magnetic waves from space from time to time, but how would you know what is a message and what isn't. And even worse is the language itself. It is very dependent on your content of everyday life. Communicating with aliens wouldnt be like speaking to humans, talking to Animals or even to plants. It would be closer to trying to communicate with s rock, or sand. I Hope what I wrote was understandable. If you disagree with it, feel free to write back. Goodbye
Man every time i watch your videos i always wonder how much it took for you guys to finish a single frame. Steller animation guys. Keep up the good work
@@AndyRamirez-b5y Perhaps they could be a species who can comprehend pity, and feel so for us underlings. Maybe they themselves reached their level of advancement because another alien civilsation showed pity to and helped them. If we open our minds to the concept of alien civilisations in the first place, why not open our hearts as well? :D
0:07 kinda looks like my country 1:25 ngl I didn't think I'd be hearing about my people in such a video 2:56 Ahhhhhh, THAT's why Thank you Kurzgesagt for the credit, incredible video as always
The concept of the galaxy being an ocean with islands brings a different perspective to our understanding of the universe. I guess we just have to keep pondering and exploring the unknown patiently while hoping to find a good island someday.
Not a perfect analogy. The Polynesians did NOT have telescopes to scope the ocean with (would not work anyway due to curve of Earth) and see the islands from a distance even if they could not get every detail perfect but we have the technology even now to see other stars and exoplanets so a spacefaring civilization would have even better telescopes and other detection devices than we do. So space faring civilizations are not going at it quite as "blindly".
@@Zurround we can't see other islands neither, not their present at least. Alpha Centauri is +4 light years away, the system could have just exploded and no one would know for +4 years (being the closest to Earth btw). We are as blind as them if you ask me.
Honestly, I think aliens exist in this vast universe, but within my knowledge that we can't move faster than the speed of light, we probably won't be able to see aliens in our lives..😢
hopefully never if at all, or that we're the earliest sentient life in the galaxy. i understand why people would like to see non earth life atleast once but honestly if we come into contact with aliens that have nuclear fusion tech they'd transform our planet into a larger wetter moon in a few million years, even lesser should they have ftl and decide to chuck asteroids at us.
But that's going by the assumption that extraterrestrials don't have superior knowledge about physics and superior technology since they could be millenia ahead of us in technology
@@dylanbowers6292 i almost hope they have tech faster than light. we wouldnt even have to know if they come in peace, or want us gone. id rather have my death be so quick it goes from biology to physics.
It's fascinating to ponder the possibility of thousands of alien empires scattered throughout the Milky Way, each navigating the challenges of interstellar existence. The comparison to islands in an ocean paints a vivid picture of the vastness and complexity of our galaxy. It's a reminder that while we may feel isolated on our own "island" of Earth, there could be countless civilizations out there, each with its own story and struggles. The idea sparks both curiosity and humility, reminding us of the enormity of the cosmos and our place within it.
Life IS teeming all over the universe and a lot of it is cloaked out of our field/ability of sight. Some of us have crossed over the Stix and gotten insights, others have forced their way into insights with chemical help or DMT. Each galaxy is a world of its own and some have many civilizations. We are so. not alone -even on this planet.
Remember that according to scientists, humans only exist because of multiple mass extinctions in the right way, evolving only the survivors of each extinction. Most of the time evolution only produced animals from animals, you'd need a planet that somehow can hold life and evolve in a certain way to produce intelligent life. There might be only 10 planets in the universe with "aliens" in the whole universe with those odds
"The extremely isolated Pitcairn islands" meanwhile Easter island in the corner be like "we're definitely in touch with island thousands of kilometers away"
I feel like for interstellar communication or interaction between civilizations. You need to have one of three things: 1) Travel speeds above light speed 2) Wormholes 3) a species which ages very slowly. If their life expectancy is 2000 years, traveling for some hundred years is still feasible
I mean technically as long as you have enough dV, you can get interstellar voyages down to decent levels (at least, for nearby stars), but breaking the lightspeed barrier is essentially impossible, no matter how it's done. The good news is those *on board* the ship would experience time even slower, to the point where time experienced increases non-linearly with distance, so that's nice at least.
This reminds me of the plot in the Galactic Civilization series of games. Faster than light travel was based on gates that had to be towed into place at sub-light speed, taking decades or centuries to create a new FTL lane. Humans showed up with ship-based FTL travel and suddenly massively distant civilizations were close neighbors and the entire galaxy went through a huge upheaval. It was really a great premise for a grand strategy game, terrifying if it's based in reality though.
I feel like a lot of people overlook the time problem, especially with fermi’s paradox. The universe was extremely hostile to life forming planets up until very recently. We are probably one of the earlier planets that has been around long enough to develop intelligent life, and it is reasonable to think that other planets are also just breaking into interplanetary travel
You're close, but your final conclusion is seriously flawed. Life has thrived in the galaxy for billions of years. Unless intelligent life is abundant (which is clearly isn't), it's extremely unlikely for two civilizations to form even within tens of millions of years of each other. In other words, we are the only planet in the galaxy with such a civilization. Otherwise, you have to come up with absurd theories like the one in the video to explain why aliens haven't even been here, let alone colonized here.
@@TheFinalChaptersOR any more advanced civilization is so far away we can't detect them. Still, the result is the same, we won't contact aliens for thousands of years at best.
@@TheFinalChapters Either that or we are the aliens, as we might be genetically tailored invasive species, dropped on the planet to fill their grand plan. My hypothesis is that the grand plan is to lift life from this solar system and keep spreading it like a galactic virus. :D
"Long enough", we have a single data point. We don't even know what the average "long enough" would need to be to expect to see intelligent life. There are a lot of factors that go into that, such as extinction events.
Spore is actually a pretty great example of this concept in action. When you finally get into space in the game, you can barely make it to the nearby handful of systems, and you have to spend a lot of money to terraform them and put colonies on them. Starting empires are small and usually confined to a handful of systems, at most. It dumbs down the travel times and the difficulty, but gives a decent framework of how this concept would work out. I think it's the most realistic explanation, colonization and expansion is just difficult outside of a home system. You can't see the planet you're traveling to well until you get there, and the chances of it being a waste of resources is high, so it's smarter to just take care of what you already have. If alien species have traveled to other systems, it was probably out of necessity, not an attempt to control multiple systems at once. On the other hand, in Spore you have pirates and raiders that try to take over or blow up your colonies. The most profitable kind of expansion relies on taking advantage of planets that already have life on them, destroying tribes or cities and putting down your own colonies. We can see examples of this in human society and how we've expanded as well. Personally I'm hoping that most sentients aside from ourselves prioritize their own survival over trying to take advantage of less advanced planets. The best outcome for us really is that colonization is so difficult that most don't attempt it, so we co-exist and avoid causing trouble on other planets that could result in mutually assured destruction. I'm also hoping that humanity, down the line, realizes that this kind of co-existence is the best outcome for us.
One of the spookiest explanations for the Fermi paradox is that civilizations might create their own virtual universes to live in, instead of colonizing into space. Considering how hard humans are diving into the Internet and virtual reality, this sounds really plausible. Imagine a galaxy full of civilizations that live in computers, maintained by robots, living in a virtual "heaven" until the computers finally degrade and shut off.
It's what makes more sense. Send too much radio waves out, a biger civilization kills you. Best plan to assure existence whould be. 1 Consume ALL ressources of the planet as much as possible so it lowers the chances of being taken over. 2 Hide every outgoing signal. 3 take brains, connect them to a computer almostnthe size of the planet. 4 encarnate into a simulation of the universe where we are alone and don't remember that there's a world outside this virtual world.
Pretty sure that will be the goal of AI for us. Much like The Matrix I suppose, but a bit less intentionally evil. It will love us as its creators and want the best for us, but will not tolerate us being in its way as there are so many of us and we are so antagonistic to anything that looks like it might disagree.
All the alien tests translated: 0:08 The compass in the top right corner has the directions in the standard way: N E S W 0:49 In the bottom right corner the text reads: Teddy Daniela Miri Yvo (the little o-s at the end of the words are not included due to a lack of understanding, but my tip would be , or ;) 0:52 In the bottom right corner the text reads: asteroids!!!! 2:57 The compass in the top right reads N E S W, the bar in the top left reads c_a_t galaxy, the islands/groups of solar systems are: Fiji - Simba, Samoa - Mufasa, Tonga - Nala, Society Islands - Mrs. Norris system, Cook Islands - Salem group, Austral Islands - Cheshire cluster, Papa Iti - to_, Tuamotu Islands - _i_i cluster, Marquesas Islands - Crookshanks cluster, Gambier islands - Garfield group, Easter Island - Meowth star (the letters in the places where _-s appear are unknown, but they are either q, j or z and in one word only one type appears) 6:19 The compass in the top right reads N E S W 6:33 The compass in the top right reads N E S W 8:06 The compass in the top right reads N E S W 8:24 The text bubble says: Send donuts! 8:33 The text in the background says: The great f[...] of frogisla[...] 8:38 In the top left corner: lunch date at _ pm today don't forget! (the number is unknown for me) 8:41 On the radar: vessel approaching 8:46 The compass in the top right reads N E S W 8:59 The text bubble says: how dare you!!! 9:04 On the hologram: easter system 9:18 The compass in the top right reads N E S W
Ngl, watching these videos always gets me excited about space. Just imagining the fact that there could very well be beings which we’d call alive, going about their day or whatever their form of that concept of they even had it, right at this very moment. Just vibing or struggling like I am rn, and perhaps impossible to ever meet. It’s surreal
@@amc1140 There is no proof of aliens having visited Earth. At least no proof that has been declassified by any governments. UFO sightings mean nothing. UFOs are not alien spacecrafts. They are "unidentified flying objects". What's more likely, those UFOs being aliens, or being some advanced Chinese aircraft spying on the US? If you hear hooves, think horses not zebras. There is not a "decent chance" aliens have visited us. Either aliens have been here and there's somehow zero concrete evidence of it in any way, or no aliens have visited us. The ladder seems far more likely to me.
Awesome work, as always! Love the deep dive on an angle that pushes further than the rather bleak perspective of the Fermi paradox. Keep going! Thank you Kurzgesagt Team :)
@@eliserhodes837And that's why we shouldn't ever visit North Sentinel Island. They have made it very clear they don't want visitors and are perfectly fine with bucket communication instead.
TLDR: We exist in the Star Wars universe, but we’re located in the Unknown Regions beyond the Outer Rim, so it’s too dangerous for the millions of alien species to find us.
@@jotarokujooraoraoraoraora It's a reference to the Calvin and Hobbes comic strip. IIRC Calvin is discussing how species keep going extinct because of humanity.
1. Survival is the primary need of civilization. 2. Civilization continuously grows and expands, but the total matter in the universe remains constant.
@@ryans1632if the dark forest hypothesis is true, then it at least informs the point of the video right? The dark forest would imply that if there are other civilizations, they are probably hiding
The total matter in the universe may not be constant though, or "constant" in the sense that it's always infinite. But the extent of the universe which is currently seen as cosmic microwave background could literally keep going forever. And then there's the possibility of other material dimensions, individually distinct but connected universes, other quantum insanity, etc.... But with the size of the observable universe, there would never be a question of scarcity assuming it's all accessible anyways.
Assumptions lead to interesting ideas. Not to say interesting ideas can't come from ground truths, but assuming "what if...?" can lead you down many interesting roads, including many which end up leading somewhere.
@@_ayohee or nowhere, because, it's easier to make popular videos for atheist NPCs than using scientific facts that strongly point towards that aliens do not exist and that humans will never colonize the solar system, let alone achieve interstellar travel
The assumptions with aliens get me because they always assume if there are aliens they must be more technologically advanced than humans. Like why can’t they exist and we also just so happen to be the planet that’s the most advanced? Technically even bacteria on another planet would be considered an alien.
Well, we are assuming that intelligent aliens would be intelligent like us. In just a few hundred thousand years humans have gone from making stone tools to harnessing the power of the atom, our technology some would say has advanced exponentially. Unless Humans are among the first intelligent life in the universe, one or two million years extra on humans, or in other words evolving 0.5% to 0.25% earlier in the life of the universe, would cause their technology to advance that much more exponentially to the point where interstellar travel is possible.
it's a matter of scale and time. Even if an intelligent species evolved a mere million years before us, their technology should be a million years ahead of ours. Can you imagine what our tech will be like in a million years? And all of this is considering only the tiny difference of a million years, what if they were a billion years ahead of us?
@@MrTuneslol See that’s what gets me, in a million years I imagine OUR tech could get pretty impressive, but I think its a bit of a stretch to assume the same would go for whatever form life took on another planet. Like I don’t doubt life of some form exists out there, but i think it’s probably much more likely it’s just some form of very resilient bacteria (most species on earth predate humans). I mean some planet has to be the top dog so why not us?
@@MrTuneslol Many people seem to lean toward aliens being more advanced than us, but, it isn't likely, based on available evidence. If there were any aliens out there, now, and ahead of us technologically, some form of electromagnetic radiation from them could be detectable by us, but we hear nothing. Why ? Quite possibly because we are the first, small G type yellow dwarf stars like ours aren't that common (~ 10 %) and are the best for life because they do not flare and are long lived and output sufficient energy to make a planets surface dynamic with variable energy strata. The other over riding factor is the age of the universe, it is YOUNG, as far as the "age of starlight" goes, which is at least 100 trillion years or so before the last stars fade into darkness, the statistical probability is obviously that the vast majority of the universes life forms have barely even begun. People tend to forget that much of the universes early days were not friendly for life, the first generation of stars, the population three stars were no good because apart from Hydrogen, a little Helium and even less Lithium they were the ONLY elements around, most of the rest of the periodic table didn't show up after the next generation of stars, and seeding interstellar hydrogen gas with enough of these elements for the formation of rocky planets from proto-stars and their protoplanetary discs took billions of years. Given the se and other things that had to happen to get us here, it seems more than likely we are first, we may turn out to be the dominant life form across the entire galaxy, or even further.
Our galaxy doesnt have to be dead. Our radio signals have barely left a single arm of the milky way. So for everyone outside that arm, life here might maaaybe detectable by spectroscopy or something. Likewise there might be life all around us in the milky way, their signals might just not have reached us. Or when they do, there is no intelligent life here anymore, or none yet.
@@coolkid006"dark forest" usually has a darker implication, which is that civilizations are intentionally hiding because it's dangerous, not that they just don't wanna enter the forest.
I prefer an idea similar to this video but less optimistic from the start. "Rough Ocean" implies that intelligence is already common in the galaxy just isolated. I prefer "Arid Desert" existentially. Microbes are common. Large fauna are not. Intelligent technical fauna are extremely rare. Less than a dozen per Milky Way of stars. Asking for an excellent one capable of sending living members across interstellar distances for realistic profit on sensible time scales just isnt "reasonable". It's not. They're not common. At most, there could be a couple neighbors in the galaxy with machine drone explorers that can get around very quickly.
Videos like this always make me think about the possibility that we are going to reach a planet where there may have been life and find out they didn’t leave they died, and it’ll be one of the carbon rich planets and only point us towards our own doom
This made me realize one thing: We don't need to worry about alien invasions, the aliens are just waiting for us to terminate ourselves before settling.
Trying to exterminate humanity is like trying to exterminate all the ants on Earth. We are one of, if not THE most populated mammals on Earth, 8 billion of us. We have technology allowing us to adapt easily. Not to mention, you only need a few hundred to repopulate Earth, that is nothing. Like, if you killed everyone on Earth except the city of Amersfoort, we would still have MORE THAN enough to repopulate Earth.
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why da hell the video is 5 minutes ago while this comment is 5 hours old
@@Mrnut65i wanted to say that
@@Steam_Gamer69 I know right, they found time travel without telling us
@@Steam_Gamer69i think cuz its like set up to be uploaded now
Statistically speaking, no matter how good Fermi is at approximating things, we're still externalizing from an observation on a sample of N=1.
Shut up nerd
Is that wrong?
Yes it's really really stupid to say because we don't see aliens they don't exist.
sample size is everything!
Well considering that there's microbial life on asteroids and other planets, I'd say it's more of like N=1.1 lol
An assumption often made is that spacefaring civilisations will be after planets, rather than resources for habitable megastructures and fleets
My only assumption is rule 34. Can't wait for my interspecies experience.
@@gentlemanvontweed7147 Ummm... I guess look at Mass Effect (or any sci-fi franchise really) for a preview? There's probably a good chance you won't be alive to witness it.
Just assuming other species do spacefaring is already a huge assumption.
If FTL is impossible, the resources required to launch colony ships across the interstellar void to destinations that may or may not support them seems wasteful. Especially when you consider that with same resources you could build another orbital habitat that could house millions. Which would you rather, build another habitat to reduce the strain on earth's ecosystem, or send a small group of people on a generational trip that will probably end in failure? Humans would probably just densely populate the solar system rather than spread out to other systems.
@@etienne8110 Not really. Expansion due to overproductive reproduction is a universal trait of all lifeforms on Earth. It's not a huge leap to assume that alien life behaves similar.
7:35 Flirted with extinction might be one of my top kurzgesagt phrases
Weirdly poetic :)
Humanity is already at a point of having unprotected sex with extinction imho, the only question is wether or not we can find the cure for the extinction-level STDs we're getting.
I've already heard that phrase in a melodysheep video, titled "THE HUMAN FUTURE".
What about “How to Destroy the Universe”
I think humanity has not just flirted but exchanged numbers with and flashed a boob at extinction.
The thing that really blows my nipples right off is the fact that this conversation is just about one galaxy, the Milky Way. Now remember that there are billions upon billions of galaxies, many of them vastly larger than our own. It's bonkers and absolutely mind boggling.
😂
If it blows your one nipple off does that mean your chest now looks like someone winking
Right?! I find that I constantly remind myself, "and this is JUST the Milky Way" - I don't know what for, since it's not like I can really comprehend the ginormity of the universe, but yeah.
you should be more worried about reattaching your nipples
With this fact, aliens have to exist
There's one complication: we don't actually need to live on planets. With the high tech that allows interstellar travel, you can easily build giant space stations to live on, powered by your friendly neighbourhood fusion reactor (your Sun) even if you yourself haven't figured out fusion.
And if you find a decent sized rock with some uranium or thorium in it, you can live on that for thousands of years. This would allow you to travel interstellar distances, just by hanging out and waiting for generations on a rock. Also, the stars move, meaning that any civilization in a star system that lasts for millions of years, will inevitably have a close encounter with another star.
But a planet is always preferable though. No tech can match the scale and freedom you have on a planet (that suits your needs).
You could get close though, with enormous stations powered by an artificial sun and other trickery. But at that point it's probably easier to just find or terraform a planet.
Gravity wells may well be for suckers! In the distant future it may well seem strange to live in the constrictive environment of a planet.
@@joost199207 Even in real life, we have people living in vehicles, like trucks and boats. If it can be done, it will be done.
While I get what you are saying, unlimited energy is not everything required to live, water is important too. Thus, finding a planet with water and actually living on it would be much more cost efficient than transporting that water to a space station.
"Mars is the worst,.... except Venus is even worse" I giggled at that for some reason😂
yeah venus makes mars look tame by comparison. it's like a hellish landscape with sulfuric acid and carbon dioxide clouds
Me too.
05:01 way too expensive, too expensive, still too expensive😂😂😂
Hey Venus gets less credit than it deserves, sure the surface is hellish but go a few kilometres up and it's a warm earth like temperature and pressure with adequate radiation protection, the same gravity as earth and no acid rain.
I see the prospect of making a balloon to be far more in our grasp than making artificial gravity or an atmosphere and magnetic field
yea its clearly worser.
I was not ready for "its free real estate" to show up in a Kurzgesagt video of all places
An uwu level of 9000 caught me off guard
@@GW2Zaruz you missed the >, the UwU level is over 9000! 😁
I wasn’t expecting it either, but still usual for kurzgesagt to masterfully utilize memes like a baker putting a few cherries on a cake.
2 beds no rugs.
@@phelan_pt where?
Imagine a star system with not one, but two terran planets.
How exciting would be when one notices the other and realizes there is life on their neighbour.
I hate to get your hopes up but that is possible for us.
@@itsoddsquadmore like from our oceans
I just want to say, analogizing Oceania to space is brilliant
how lol. you cant fish in space, it doesnt rain and there is no wind.
i think he meant from an exploration standpoint
We've been doing it for years. The number of sci-fi medias that don't equate spaceships to... well, ships in space, is in the single digits.
I'm also impressed by them using the term "Oceania" correctly, so many people incorrectly lump in the entire continent of Australia.
@@toddberkely6791 it's an analogy for a hostile place...
Just for the fun of it, I have translated every single space letter into our alphabet based on how they are shown in each topic's title. So here's what every single timestamp of the video says:
0:49 -
Teddy. Daniela.
Mari. Yvo.
*Asteroids!!!!*
2:56 - C-A-S galaxy
Simba
Nala
Mufasa
Salem Group
Mrs. Norris System
Cheshire Cluster
Tom
?i?i Cluster [Could be Jiji, Qiqi or Zizi. These 3 letters were never presented in their space form]
Crookshanks Cluster
Garfield Group
Meowyh Star
8:24 -
Send donuts!
8:33 -
The Great Frog
Of Frogisland
8:37 -
Lunch Date at
? PM Today [Could be any number]
Don't forget!
*Vessel Approaching!*
8:58 -
How dare you!!!
9:04 -
Easter System
How did you do this?
@@bielvv9148 I noticed that at every transition (such as 1:06, 3:05, 5:54 and 9:23) every word had the same amount of letters in Space Alphabet and Latin Alphabet, so assuming they were the same letters, I have made a little sheet where I converted every Space Letter into their Latin equivalent. From there it was pretty easy to rewrite every other word shown in the video
@@bielvv9148 It took quite a lot of time, but I had a lot of fun 😅
@@Montlev Damn! You are genius
@@Montlev Ooooooh that is so genious, I hadn't even thought about that lol. Good job man! Also, I just thought about it. This means that someone at Kurzgezagt went through elaborating an alien alphabet and writting the words for the video🤯
Alien diplomat: So, show me, what is humanitys latest big pop culture series?
Alien agent: Sir, its called skibidi toilett. It seems to affect there youngest generation. Here are some short clips for it.
Alien diplomat: I thing we wait another 1.000 years before comming back.
Nahhh😂
I really want a Civilization-style video game with Kurzgesagt's art style where I can colonize or conquer space.
Someone started to, but they didn't finish it
Stellaris (minus the art style)
Spore, the OG
@@uriargaman7241”og”
if it was properly made it would be literally terabytes of just maps of galaxies
For every like I'll study for 1 hour
Don’t study it’s not in you’re destiny
Edit: all you eeeedjits can’t see I spelt you’re wrong for a reason 🤦♂️
@@Commentswithlove Pardon, but it's *your
For each like I get, you have to study the history of porn.
@@melgeezy3325 Sir, I'm 15
@@RadhakrishnanSrinathan I've been doing that since the age of 6
04:33 “We stop for nobody” Nice Spaceballs reference 😂😂
I scrolled to find the jokes about this, was worth it.
Nearly right, although I appreciate the reference highly, it's 'we brake for nobody'!
But point taken, nonetheless.
😃
In the grim darkness of the far future...there is only Kurzgesagt.
Not sure it's relevant but he also pronounces Years like the Year in the BadYear Blimp...
i missed that
I see the Dune inspirations throughout the video and it’s awesome 😊
dune was awesome
Every Kurzgesagt video:
- Facts
- Scares you
- Calms you down
- Birb (or bird somehow)
- Also the remarkable authoritative British accent
Is it really a Kurzgesagt video if you aren't fascinated/frightened by the end of it?
The _fake_ British accent, you mean.
@@PhillipWenger Definitely yes lol!! *FAKE* British accent
@Haha.your.reading.this.idiot. Just _sounds_ authoritative, you know 😂😂 Honestly, their contents aren't bad, but the scale looks too massive (can't really describe the feeling
@penderyn8794 - "larpers" ! Good one!
Steve whispering "It's free real estate" isn't something I knew I needed to hear
This is a Tim and Eric reference right?
Absolutely
COME GET YOUR PLANET, IT'S GOT YOUR NAME ON IT
When
@@oofoof698 minutes in
Kurzgesagt:
" Mars is the worst except Venus is even worse " that killed me
That and the free real estate whisper.
You Humans can live in the upper atmosphere and still be shielded from the 🌞 harmful Ray's
Well you don’t wanna get poisoned, burn and melt at the same time. That’s why Venus offer right now pretty straightforward I must say, compared to Mars Humans still has chance to survive by bunker inside Mars to avoid radiation
More CGI and fish lens!
The reasons after is what kills me...or what *would* kill me.
The analogy is very good, it helps with understanding this very speculative subject
I find one of the greatest ironies of interstellar colonization is that if you have the ability to create ships to travel those vast distances, or settle on the surface of extremely marginal planets like Mars, you've also the ability to make artificial habitats, bottle worlds, completely undercutting the need to colonize another planet in the most extreme version of an invasive species.
This actually makes colonizing other systems easier because you don't need to look for planets to live on, the asteroids within a system become a more valuable resource because of accessability. This also means you don't need to go sailing off vast distances because just about any system will do, which means expansion happens in small jumps rather than great leaps. This keeps inter-planetary civilizations quite compact, even if each system in that civilization might have a much greater population than a planet might sustain.
Yeah and any civilization near a blackhole has a megastructural starting bonus since nearly all blackhole megastructures are fairly easy compared to other objects since its WAY easier to collect energy from a blackhole than a star resource and time wise
I feel that this is like saying "why did the europeans colonize america if they had infrasturcture in europe?"
or something like that
@@generaldelasmontanas2699 Yeah, exactly. People will colonize other planets because we .. emmm.. don't like other people sometimes. And distance is good way to be out of reach of those people. Ask Europeans which go to the New World to go out of European monarchies sphere of influence.
@@generaldelasmontanas2699
It bears pointing out that what drove the initial wave of exploration from Europe wasn't to settle somewhere, it was to make ridiculous amounts of MONEY by bypassing existing trade routes and monopolies. The colonization was a byproduct.
I suppose a decent historical parallel is how the Dutch just made more land to farm instead of relying on colonial expansion. Oh sure, they had colonies, but those were about resource extraction for making said ridiculous amounts of MONEY rather than finding somewhere to live. Dutch colonialism wouldn't have worked without native populations to -enslave- offer minimum wage jobs to, while the polders were entirely homegrown.
Another might be the Boat People in SE Asia, where whole communities float on rafts/barges because it's a better use of resources than taking up land with homes.
Yes that sounds plausible to me, It’s how nature does things, kind of like diffusion.
"And this, is a hypothesis surrounding aliens"
"Kurzgesagt, this is the ninth time you've shown aliens in class today"
This is religious. They’re trying to convince themselves that aliens exist, and that interstellar travel is possible. Just look at their goofy Mars and Venus terraforming videos for reference.
@@Beanskiiii yeah, i've noticed this too. not really scientific if you ask me.
@@Beanskiiii It IS possible, but nations won't work together to make it happen.
@@Beanskiiiivery ironic that you have that username
@@Beanskiiiiwhy are those videos goofy?
I'd love to see an episode exploring this theme more, regarding all the means of communication that other civilizations might be using, that we are not or cannot yet look for.
Apparetnly they use the cosmic web for communication and travel.
gravity...and it is not them, it's us
@@bunnychop5 they use something called the webway to travel. There are also cosmic entities made up of emotions, looking to possess a mortal
Chuckled at the Rear Window reference at 10:22 during the sponsorship segment.
"would you go to war because someone's great grandfather killed yours"
Actually yes, we've been doing it for centuries.
right, because Germany and France are famously still at war
the century-long conflicts that endure, endure because you have a continued personal stake in it (e.g. religious), and often occur over fighting over a singular resource (be that land/rights/etc)-which isn't really the case in separate solar systems
@@SisterSunny so nobody will have stakes in a planet which they've already put tons of resources into?
The fact that people are already replying trying to dispute this is mind-boggling.
@@matthewegelerSunk Cost Fallacy.
You would only go to war because it doesn't take light-years to get there.
Who needs sleep when you can have an existential crisis instead?
True
thats more of an exurb1a thing
Ture
@@Have-a-good-day2764 ah yes, ture
"Mr president, a new Kurzegesagt video has just been posted"
“No man’s sky” is a perfect game to represent this idea. If you play the game blindly, you may never find a earth like planet, even a pretty planet can have a environment or creature that will kill you
Yep. And in that game there are galactic empires so maybe truly at a certain tech level I becomes trival.
Hilariously, on my current save, I spawned on an inhospitable ice planet... whose moon is basically perfect. It has zero environmental hazards, zero hostile creatures, and I've barely seen any sentinels on it (they are not hostile anyway).
Bonus points: I built a base on the ice planet because it's prettier, just on top of a random hill that had vaguely good views and was near a ground station. Then, after I unlocked the resource visor, I discovered that I accidentally built right next to a dioxite deposit... which effectively means my life support will never run out, because I have way more dioxite than I can possibly use up on charging it.
I wish they had gas giants you could float around in.
In my 400+ hours of playing no man's sky I landed on around 2000+ planets on my journey through black holes to the centre of the galaxy.
I came across 3 planets that were similar to earth.
The first one was the most similar but had no fauna.
The second one had fauna and realistic mountains and continents but was incredibly toxic.
The third one ticked all the boxes but had weird floating mountains so was a no go.
I'm still trying to find a planet to build my homebase on but so far have had no luck.
I should have just stuck with the third one.
tbf theres plenty of creatures on earth that can kill u too
"It's free real estate" lmao. Also loved the music in this one
To extend the analogy - knowing what happened when other civilisations discovered the Polynesians suddenly makes the idea of us meeting with aliens pretty scary
They meet us every single day, have done so for a long time now.
@@steelswarm2721Take your meds loon.
Kind of a tangent, but I've noticed a lot of media from the post-colonial seem to be unintentionally expressing fear and guilt at what built modern society. Especially the alien invasion.
People with an unfamiliar culture and society wielding advanced technology show up and subjugate our entire society in an attempt to wither extract resources, assimilate, or exterminate in order to take the land.
The imperial/colonial guilt inherent to the genre doesn't even seem intentional. Especially in the 80s and 90s. But it's there because art reflects life.
It all depends who meets who first
I don't know, they have it pretty sweet now.compared to then.
1. Complex life being really difficult to evolve and 2. the chances that two civilizations occupy the same epoch in time really should not be underestimated.
Neither should the scale of things.....
It takes A LOT of evolution for a world to evolve a species that has at least human level intelligence and is even more advanced than we are. If you look at our world over a span of 4.5 billion years you will see countless species of life from the smallest microbes to the largest whales and dinosaurs yet in all of that time our world has only produced ONE species that is somewhat tech advanced. I say "somewhat" because we sure are not at the level of the aliens in this video.
I do not believe that life is rare. I think its very common but that only a very very tiny percentage of worlds with life get to the point of advanced technology. I believe that almost all inhabited worlds just have plants, animals and sometimes beings with human level intellect but low technology.
2 high tech species being near each other (within 10 light years lets say) is like 2 state lottery winners happening to be next door neighbors.
I've heard the same
It takes a lot of evolution for a world to evolve a species that has at least human level intelligence and is even more advanced than we are. If you look at our world over a span of 4.5 billion years you will see countless species of life from the smallest microbes to the largest whales and dinosaurs yet in all of that time our world has only produced one species that is somewhat tech advanced. I say "somewhat" because we sure are not at the level of the aliens in this video. I do not believe that life is rare. I think its very common but that only a very very tiny percentage of worlds with life get to the point of advanced technology. I believe that almost all inhabited worlds just have plants, animals and sometimes beings with human level intellect but low technology. 2 high tech species being near each other (within 10 light years lets say) is like 2 state lottery winners happening to be next door neighbors.
Another thing is the jump from complex life to space faring societal life.
Complex life was on Earth for well over a Billion years, full brains, cortexes, highly specialized abilities etc etc were here for hundreds of millions of years and not a single one of them figured out you could use rocks to break stuff. Let alone space travel. Humanity existing is a very recent thing, humanity having space travel is a very very VERY recent thing in the geological scale.
one of my favorite things about this channel is just how obvious it is that you guys put love and care into every tiny detail of your projects- even your advertisements are selected with thoughtfulness! thanks for all you do, Kurzgesagt!
in a million years, the descendents of the people that colonized the other side of the milky way will be the aliens we imagined a million years prior
4:34 Spaceballs: The Colony Ship!
Nice!
If your living in a bubble and you haven't got a care....
Well you’re gonna be in trouble ‘cause they’re gonna steal your air…
"WATCH OUT "!
May the Swartz be with them.
I love how Kurzgesagt ranges wildly between (1) extremely grounded facts based on cold-hard-established science; and (2) ambitious speculations based on hot-crazy assumptions. Always a joy to watch, sometimes for the information, while others for the imagination.
Best!
8:02 “It's free real estate” most intrigued me.
Why do we still have the primitive need to spread and colonize like animals if we have advanced control of our biology? Why is the future advanced in ONLY one way? We have starships, but medicine hasn't advanced at all? Makes zero sense.
Thanks for that. Was watching on my phone, and totally missed it.
Pretty funny, though. You're right
It's a good Tim and Eric reference!
Him saying 'oceania' at 1:09 gave me flash back from ingsoc (1984)
Remember, war is peace rasim is Freedom!
i wish that if we meet aliens, they will be entirely chill and just explain things and talk to us about cultures, math, and existence.
It sounds wonderful, but, if You could indulge me, how would you communicate with them?
@@mioszskrzynski7101 we have actors
@@emissne What actors? Movie actors? How would actors talk to aliens?
I am genuinely curious
@@mioszskrzynski7101math is a universal language
Hello, let's assume that math is universal. My problem with communication with aliens is empathy, or rather intentionality.
In general, you need to know when someone is sending a signal or not. For instance we emit transmissions, heat and radiation into space all the time. And yet we send probes with special information for aliens. Sure, but how do they know what is part of the engine and what isn't?
We recieve Magnetic waves from space from time to time, but how would you know what is a message and what isn't.
And even worse is the language itself. It is very dependent on your content of everyday life.
Communicating with aliens wouldnt be like speaking to humans, talking to Animals or even to plants. It would be closer to trying to communicate with s rock, or sand.
I Hope what I wrote was understandable. If you disagree with it, feel free to write back. Goodbye
Man every time i watch your videos i always wonder how much it took for you guys to finish a single frame. Steller animation guys. Keep up the good work
@@wendigo2442technically yes….
You could say it was a...Stellaris Animation.
I think they said in a video it takes about 3 months minimum to make a longer video.
Pretty sure its mostly AI
@@lethargicastengah572 It isn't. They have a team.
At 0:12 I was watching without sound and thought for a moment Kuzgesagt was bringing back the old Brilliant intro sequence lmao
After seeing how stupid we act do you really think a advanced civilization will want to deal with us, they wouldn't even consider us mating.
@@AndyRamirez-b5y Perhaps they could be a species who can comprehend pity, and feel so for us underlings. Maybe they themselves reached their level of advancement because another alien civilsation showed pity to and helped them.
If we open our minds to the concept of alien civilisations in the first place, why not open our hearts as well? :D
The greatest filter - planet population being stuck watching Kurzegesagt intead of studying, researching space travel.
8:10 I love the “It’s free real estate!” Joke
So good!
It got me
Thank you Mr Heidecker
For your health!
That timestamp is way too late
It's more like 8:00, 10 seconds earlier
0:07 kinda looks like my country
1:25 ngl I didn't think I'd be hearing about my people in such a video
2:56 Ahhhhhh, THAT's why
Thank you Kurzgesagt for the credit, incredible video as always
Moana.
The concept of the galaxy being an ocean with islands brings a different perspective to our understanding of the universe. I guess we just have to keep pondering and exploring the unknown patiently while hoping to find a good island someday.
We are standing on it.
The ocean is good when you are a fish.
Not a perfect analogy. The Polynesians did NOT have telescopes to scope the ocean with (would not work anyway due to curve of Earth) and see the islands from a distance even if they could not get every detail perfect but we have the technology even now to see other stars and exoplanets so a spacefaring civilization would have even better telescopes and other detection devices than we do. So space faring civilizations are not going at it quite as "blindly".
and we will destroy it
@@Zurround we can't see other islands neither, not their present at least. Alpha Centauri is +4 light years away, the system could have just exploded and no one would know for +4 years (being the closest to Earth btw). We are as blind as them if you ask me.
got to respect the effort they put into making an alien script that corresponds with letters 1:06
You guys at kurzgesagt are so awesome at making things simple to learn and grasp. Keep up the great work ❤
Honestly, I think aliens exist in this vast universe, but within my knowledge that we can't move faster than the speed of light, we probably won't be able to see aliens in our lives..😢
hopefully never if at all, or that we're the earliest sentient life in the galaxy. i understand why people would like to see non earth life atleast once but honestly if we come into contact with aliens that have nuclear fusion tech they'd transform our planet into a larger wetter moon in a few million years, even lesser should they have ftl and decide to chuck asteroids at us.
But that's going by the assumption that extraterrestrials don't have superior knowledge about physics and superior technology since they could be millenia ahead of us in technology
C
@@dylanbowers6292 i almost hope they have tech faster than light. we wouldnt even have to know if they come in peace, or want us gone. id rather have my death be so quick it goes from biology to physics.
@@disguy6168That's scary and interesting at the same time :0
I have now witnessed the birth of a Kuzrgesagt video
They finally uploaded fr
Same
huh
lol
Same, this is rare
I just realized the thumbnail is the buzz lightyear pointing meme
It's fascinating to ponder the possibility of thousands of alien empires scattered throughout the Milky Way, each navigating the challenges of interstellar existence. The comparison to islands in an ocean paints a vivid picture of the vastness and complexity of our galaxy. It's a reminder that while we may feel isolated on our own "island" of Earth, there could be countless civilizations out there, each with its own story and struggles. The idea sparks both curiosity and humility, reminding us of the enormity of the cosmos and our place within it.
thats the biggest possibility. were a grain of salt in the universe, for all we know life could be a common thing throughout the whole universe
This comment has chat gpt prose
Star wars taught us that they needed hyperspace travel to connect the galaxy
Life IS teeming all over the universe and a lot of it is cloaked out of our field/ability of sight. Some of us have crossed over the Stix and gotten insights, others have forced their way into insights with chemical help or DMT. Each galaxy is a world of its own and some have many civilizations. We are so. not alone -even on this planet.
Remember that according to scientists, humans only exist because of multiple mass extinctions in the right way, evolving only the survivors of each extinction. Most of the time evolution only produced animals from animals, you'd need a planet that somehow can hold life and evolve in a certain way to produce intelligent life. There might be only 10 planets in the universe with "aliens" in the whole universe with those odds
"The extremely isolated Pitcairn islands" meanwhile Easter island in the corner be like "we're definitely in touch with island thousands of kilometers away"
I feel like for interstellar communication or interaction between civilizations. You need to have one of three things:
1) Travel speeds above light speed
2) Wormholes
3) a species which ages very slowly. If their life expectancy is 2000 years, traveling for some hundred years is still feasible
Sadly above lightspeed is impossible
I mean technically as long as you have enough dV, you can get interstellar voyages down to decent levels (at least, for nearby stars), but breaking the lightspeed barrier is essentially impossible, no matter how it's done. The good news is those *on board* the ship would experience time even slower, to the point where time experienced increases non-linearly with distance, so that's nice at least.
@@AshiBoiiBSSo far and probably forever, but there is still the slimmest possibility. But it is an astronomically slim possibility
@@notapplicable6985 I mean doesn’t that go against the laws of nature?
@@AshiBoiiBS There is always a slight chance we don't fully understand the laws of nature
This reminds me of the plot in the Galactic Civilization series of games. Faster than light travel was based on gates that had to be towed into place at sub-light speed, taking decades or centuries to create a new FTL lane. Humans showed up with ship-based FTL travel and suddenly massively distant civilizations were close neighbors and the entire galaxy went through a huge upheaval. It was really a great premise for a grand strategy game, terrifying if it's based in reality though.
I was just thinking about this and I saw "5 seconds ago", like no way.
this was 2 minutes ago and i saw 1.8k views already i came to yt for music but this is way better
No way...
creative way to say "first"
Yeah me too😮
I was playing stellaris and then saw a new Kurzgeasgt video saying uploaded 3 minutes ago
The kuleshov/Eisenstein/Hitchcock reference on your Ground News ad really cracked me up, thank you.
what minute was that?
This is way better than studying
*than. Perhaps you should go back to studying, after all.
@@Edgtheow you are my favorite person
@@Edgtheowssssst
(It was a joke cuz yk the spelling mistake and studying, i didn't think someone would find it this fast tho lol)
Sure it was@@philippeert
@@philippeert yeah... you totally made a "joke"... nobody is falling for your bullshit.
5:04 The show "Three Body Problem" touches on this. It is really worth a watch.
Love this alien font. The Cat Galaxy replacing the Polynesian Islands! Simba, Mufasa, Tom, Cheshire et al. :D
Are you kidding me with the Spaceballs Reference 😂 4:36 I love this channel so much ❤
Finally someone pointed it out. :D
I feel like a lot of people overlook the time problem, especially with fermi’s paradox. The universe was extremely hostile to life forming planets up until very recently. We are probably one of the earlier planets that has been around long enough to develop intelligent life, and it is reasonable to think that other planets are also just breaking into interplanetary travel
You're close, but your final conclusion is seriously flawed.
Life has thrived in the galaxy for billions of years. Unless intelligent life is abundant (which is clearly isn't), it's extremely unlikely for two civilizations to form even within tens of millions of years of each other.
In other words, we are the only planet in the galaxy with such a civilization. Otherwise, you have to come up with absurd theories like the one in the video to explain why aliens haven't even been here, let alone colonized here.
@@TheFinalChaptersOR any more advanced civilization is so far away we can't detect them. Still, the result is the same, we won't contact aliens for thousands of years at best.
@@TheFinalChapters Either that or we are the aliens, as we might be genetically tailored invasive species, dropped on the planet to fill their grand plan. My hypothesis is that the grand plan is to lift life from this solar system and keep spreading it like a galactic virus. :D
@@N12015 Well, "far away" in this case would need to be outside the galaxy.
"Long enough", we have a single data point. We don't even know what the average "long enough" would need to be to expect to see intelligent life. There are a lot of factors that go into that, such as extinction events.
finally! you guys are thinking outside the box and using parallel in the right way
BRING BACK THE INTRO😭😭
where the F#$*! is my intro?!
And outro!
Unsubscribe from trash channels := :=
@@lief3414 huh?
@@lief3414???
Thanks kurzgesagt you always make videos for us even through it takes hours and loads of work,thank you kurzgesagt
it's almost as if they were literally paid to do this
@@MCArt25 no one said kurzgesagt couldn’t be cheapskates
@@MCArt25Can't even appreciate something anymore without someone being an ass
It's funny, I start to get the itch to watch a new Kurzgesagt video and suddenly a few days later, bam, they drop one. Love it.
Spore is actually a pretty great example of this concept in action. When you finally get into space in the game, you can barely make it to the nearby handful of systems, and you have to spend a lot of money to terraform them and put colonies on them. Starting empires are small and usually confined to a handful of systems, at most. It dumbs down the travel times and the difficulty, but gives a decent framework of how this concept would work out.
I think it's the most realistic explanation, colonization and expansion is just difficult outside of a home system. You can't see the planet you're traveling to well until you get there, and the chances of it being a waste of resources is high, so it's smarter to just take care of what you already have. If alien species have traveled to other systems, it was probably out of necessity, not an attempt to control multiple systems at once.
On the other hand, in Spore you have pirates and raiders that try to take over or blow up your colonies. The most profitable kind of expansion relies on taking advantage of planets that already have life on them, destroying tribes or cities and putting down your own colonies. We can see examples of this in human society and how we've expanded as well.
Personally I'm hoping that most sentients aside from ourselves prioritize their own survival over trying to take advantage of less advanced planets. The best outcome for us really is that colonization is so difficult that most don't attempt it, so we co-exist and avoid causing trouble on other planets that could result in mutually assured destruction. I'm also hoping that humanity, down the line, realizes that this kind of co-existence is the best outcome for us.
One of the spookiest explanations for the Fermi paradox is that civilizations might create their own virtual universes to live in, instead of colonizing into space. Considering how hard humans are diving into the Internet and virtual reality, this sounds really plausible. Imagine a galaxy full of civilizations that live in computers, maintained by robots, living in a virtual "heaven" until the computers finally degrade and shut off.
Like a Matrioshka Brain?
Or the matrix
It's what makes more sense.
Send too much radio waves out, a biger civilization kills you.
Best plan to assure existence whould be.
1 Consume ALL ressources of the planet as much as possible so it lowers the chances of being taken over.
2 Hide every outgoing signal.
3 take brains, connect them to a computer almostnthe size of the planet.
4 encarnate into a simulation of the universe where we are alone and don't remember that there's a world outside this virtual world.
Seems pretty nice tbh
Pretty sure that will be the goal of AI for us. Much like The Matrix I suppose, but a bit less intentionally evil. It will love us as its creators and want the best for us, but will not tolerate us being in its way as there are so many of us and we are so antagonistic to anything that looks like it might disagree.
All the alien tests translated:
0:08 The compass in the top right corner has the directions in the standard way: N E S W
0:49 In the bottom right corner the text reads: Teddy Daniela Miri Yvo (the little o-s at the end of the words are not included due to a lack of understanding, but my tip would be , or ;)
0:52 In the bottom right corner the text reads: asteroids!!!!
2:57 The compass in the top right reads N E S W, the bar in the top left reads c_a_t galaxy, the islands/groups of solar systems are: Fiji - Simba, Samoa - Mufasa, Tonga - Nala, Society Islands - Mrs. Norris system, Cook Islands - Salem group, Austral Islands - Cheshire cluster, Papa Iti - to_, Tuamotu Islands - _i_i cluster, Marquesas Islands - Crookshanks cluster, Gambier islands - Garfield group, Easter Island - Meowth star (the letters in the places where _-s appear are unknown, but they are either q, j or z and in one word only one type appears)
6:19 The compass in the top right reads N E S W
6:33 The compass in the top right reads N E S W
8:06 The compass in the top right reads N E S W
8:24 The text bubble says: Send donuts!
8:33 The text in the background says: The great f[...] of frogisla[...]
8:38 In the top left corner: lunch date at _ pm today don't forget! (the number is unknown for me)
8:41 On the radar: vessel approaching
8:46 The compass in the top right reads N E S W
8:59 The text bubble says: how dare you!!!
9:04 On the hologram: easter system
9:18 The compass in the top right reads N E S W
Thanks, I was learning English for my mission and this helped a lot!
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Epic
What is the language?
considering the Stars and systems at 2:57 are all named after cats, I think it's safe to assume that _i_i is Jiji from Kiki's Delivery Service.
Some visual references to space movies in here, love it
Past the middle a little bit you can see the beach from “contact”
Ngl, watching these videos always gets me excited about space. Just imagining the fact that there could very well be beings which we’d call alive, going about their day or whatever their form of that concept of they even had it, right at this very moment. Just vibing or struggling like I am rn, and perhaps impossible to ever meet. It’s surreal
Same. It's a fascinating concept.
What about the decent chance of Aliens being here now? Those navy UFO sightings, Lazar, etc are pretty convincing
For their sake, I hope they don't know about Communism.
@@amc1140 There is no proof of aliens having visited Earth. At least no proof that has been declassified by any governments.
UFO sightings mean nothing. UFOs are not alien spacecrafts. They are "unidentified flying objects".
What's more likely, those UFOs being aliens, or being some advanced Chinese aircraft spying on the US? If you hear hooves, think horses not zebras.
There is not a "decent chance" aliens have visited us.
Either aliens have been here and there's somehow zero concrete evidence of it in any way, or no aliens have visited us. The ladder seems far more likely to me.
"it's free real estate" xD
8:01
Jim boonie!! It’s free!
xD
Never thought I'd hear the Kuzrgesagt narrator say that
I love their pop culture references lol
Needed this to not feel so alone.
Awesome work, as always! Love the deep dive on an angle that pushes further than the rather bleak perspective of the Fermi paradox. Keep going! Thank you Kurzgesagt Team :)
Kurzgesagt: "The Polynesian islands are free real estate."
Europe: *Rubs hands together.*
Me wondering if it was the disease from Europe 😅
@@eliserhodes837And that's why we shouldn't ever visit North Sentinel Island. They have made it very clear they don't want visitors and are perfectly fine with bucket communication instead.
@@thenovicenovelist So... You're saying that they're easy to conquer?
kurzgesagt is one of those serious channel but also manage to sneak in jokes such as "its free realestate"
love them sm
TLDR: We exist in the Star Wars universe, but we’re located in the Unknown Regions beyond the Outer Rim, so it’s too dangerous for the millions of alien species to find us.
So we will one day become a bunch of pirate nations, corporate states, and tyrannical governments like in eve online.
This has genuinely become my favorite channel on TH-cam
"Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us." Calvin
I don’t understand, can u explain pls 😢
@@jotarokujooraoraoraoraoracultural contamination
@@jotarokujooraoraoraoraoratake a good look at all of human history
@@jotarokujooraoraoraoraora It's a reference to the Calvin and Hobbes comic strip. IIRC Calvin is discussing how species keep going extinct because of humanity.
@@jotarokujooraoraoraoraora It's a joke
I love how Kurzgesagt destroys all my expectations and dreams during the entire video, but brings me hope by the end every time.
What If... Earth ist a forgotten colony of Aliens and Humans are their Offspring?
1. Survival is the primary need of civilization.
2. Civilization continuously grows and expands, but the total matter in the universe remains constant.
Which misses the entire point of this video mister three body problem.
@@ryans1632if the dark forest hypothesis is true, then it at least informs the point of the video right? The dark forest would imply that if there are other civilizations, they are probably hiding
We transform matter into humans mwahahaha.
not necesarilly true, because ther's also a sustainable way of life, and it's undoubtedly better for any civilization even if we are truly alone
The total matter in the universe may not be constant though, or "constant" in the sense that it's always infinite. But the extent of the universe which is currently seen as cosmic microwave background could literally keep going forever. And then there's the possibility of other material dimensions, individually distinct but connected universes, other quantum insanity, etc.... But with the size of the observable universe, there would never be a question of scarcity assuming it's all accessible anyways.
WAKE UP KURZGESAGT POSTED
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yeehaw
literally just about to sleep its like 11 in the evening here lmao
I’m on the school bus all sleepy and watching this video rn
I'm up, I'm up, no need to yell
0:30 "But this idea is built on a lot of assumptions." That's a succinct summary of every Kurzgesagt video.
Assumptions lead to interesting ideas. Not to say interesting ideas can't come from ground truths, but assuming "what if...?" can lead you down many interesting roads, including many which end up leading somewhere.
Well said.
@@_ayohee or nowhere, because, it's easier to make popular videos for atheist NPCs than using scientific facts that strongly point towards that aliens do not exist and that humans will never colonize the solar system, let alone achieve interstellar travel
Kurzgesagt videos like this are supposed to be speculations
Loved all the small references and details of this video. I will be sure to have a can of perri-air
8:00 So good! Got a geniune chuckle from me
This was perfect. Awesome job. 😊
The idea of this video is amazing; it's a fabulous example of free association coming up with new ideas.
This is easy. Think about it, when a fish is alone in a fish tank, it only means that it is being put into the fish tank.
10:26 - This is a great re-adaptation of Rear Window. Metaphors abound!
The assumptions with aliens get me because they always assume if there are aliens they must be more technologically advanced than humans. Like why can’t they exist and we also just so happen to be the planet that’s the most advanced? Technically even bacteria on another planet would be considered an alien.
Well, we are assuming that intelligent aliens would be intelligent like us. In just a few hundred thousand years humans have gone from making stone tools to harnessing the power of the atom, our technology some would say has advanced exponentially.
Unless Humans are among the first intelligent life in the universe, one or two million years extra on humans, or in other words evolving 0.5% to 0.25% earlier in the life of the universe, would cause their technology to advance that much more exponentially to the point where interstellar travel is possible.
Any planet that has potential for life would have bacteria, we just want to find a species that is like us
it's a matter of scale and time. Even if an intelligent species evolved a mere million years before us, their technology should be a million years ahead of ours. Can you imagine what our tech will be like in a million years?
And all of this is considering only the tiny difference of a million years, what if they were a billion years ahead of us?
@@MrTuneslol See that’s what gets me, in a million years I imagine OUR tech could get pretty impressive, but I think its a bit of a stretch to assume the same would go for whatever form life took on another planet. Like I don’t doubt life of some form exists out there, but i think it’s probably much more likely it’s just some form of very resilient bacteria (most species on earth predate humans). I mean some planet has to be the top dog so why not us?
@@MrTuneslol Many people seem to lean toward aliens being more advanced than us, but, it isn't likely, based on available evidence. If there were any aliens out there, now, and ahead of us technologically, some form of electromagnetic radiation from them could be detectable by us, but we hear nothing. Why ? Quite possibly because we are the first, small G type yellow dwarf stars like ours aren't that common (~ 10 %) and are the best for life because they do not flare and are long lived and output sufficient energy to make a planets surface dynamic with variable energy strata. The other over riding factor is the age of the universe, it is YOUNG, as far as the "age of starlight" goes, which is at least 100 trillion years or so before the last stars fade into darkness, the statistical probability is obviously that the vast majority of the universes life forms have barely even begun.
People tend to forget that much of the universes early days were not friendly for life, the first generation of stars, the population three stars were no good because apart from Hydrogen, a little Helium and even less Lithium they were the ONLY elements around, most of the rest of the periodic table didn't show up after the next generation of stars, and seeding interstellar hydrogen gas with enough of these elements for the formation of rocky planets from proto-stars and their protoplanetary discs took billions of years. Given the se and other things that had to happen to get us here, it seems more than likely we are first, we may turn out to be the dominant life form across the entire galaxy, or even further.
Please make more Kurzgesagt Puzzles!
I love the Dino Puzzle and cant wait for another motiv with your amazing artstyle to piece together 🙌
Thank you so much for uncovering all thesemysteries because duringmy whole i wanted to find the answers to all problems we face
12:49 “UwU level >9000” Okay I wasn’t expecting that but I should’ve been lol.
Lmao
When I saw "Alien Empire" I immediately remember The Viltrumites
🫡 R.I.P
My mind went to the tidan empire
Maybe there's an Omni man living among us
@@optimusprime3340 we're dead
idk what is wrong with me I read this as Tidian empire
I like the idea that life is actually very common in the universe, but coincidentally not in our really dead galaxy or region.
or dark forest
Our galaxy doesnt have to be dead. Our radio signals have barely left a single arm of the milky way. So for everyone outside that arm, life here might maaaybe detectable by spectroscopy or something. Likewise there might be life all around us in the milky way, their signals might just not have reached us. Or when they do, there is no intelligent life here anymore, or none yet.
@@coolkid006"dark forest" usually has a darker implication, which is that civilizations are intentionally hiding because it's dangerous, not that they just don't wanna enter the forest.
I prefer an idea similar to this video but less optimistic from the start. "Rough Ocean" implies that intelligence is already common in the galaxy just isolated. I prefer "Arid Desert" existentially. Microbes are common. Large fauna are not. Intelligent technical fauna are extremely rare. Less than a dozen per Milky Way of stars. Asking for an excellent one capable of sending living members across interstellar distances for realistic profit on sensible time scales just isnt "reasonable". It's not. They're not common. At most, there could be a couple neighbors in the galaxy with machine drone explorers that can get around very quickly.
@@coda567i am of the belief that life is common, but intelligent life is exceptionally rare
Videos like this always make me think about the possibility that we are going to reach a planet where there may have been life and find out they didn’t leave they died, and it’ll be one of the carbon rich planets and only point us towards our own doom
"We Brake For Nobody" Nice Spaceballs reference
And the Rear Window reference!
I didn't catch those I kept thinking of starship troopers and Helldivers watching this
I see men of real culture around here 👏👏
damn! Also noticed the Rear Window reference and thought I was the one going mad :)
"Stockin' meat for the apocalypse! Doodly-doo! We're all gonna die!" - Grunkle Stan 🥩
"Anything's legal if you don't get caught!" Grunkle was so full of wisdom!
Stan. Save some for us!
“Hey, if it makes you feel any better, the apocalypse is coming soon. Bury your gold. …You’ve been buying gold, right?”
“Alright, you have 48 hours to get these pugs across the border”
Also can i shout out mayor toadstool?
“Constituents don’t bribe themselves”
I was waiting for something kinda 3 Body Problem of video from Kurzgesagt, but this is way better. You guys never disappoints!
They already did that video.
@@LutraLovegood what? what's the video title? I'm really looking forward to it
Imagine if one astronaut goes to mars and randomly finds aliens, I doubt that it'll actually happen but if it DID, then it'd be big news
This made me realize one thing: We don't need to worry about alien invasions, the aliens are just waiting for us to terminate ourselves before settling.
wow platitudes
Trying to exterminate humanity is like trying to exterminate all the ants on Earth. We are one of, if not THE most populated mammals on Earth, 8 billion of us. We have technology allowing us to adapt easily. Not to mention, you only need a few hundred to repopulate Earth, that is nothing. Like, if you killed everyone on Earth except the city of Amersfoort, we would still have MORE THAN enough to repopulate Earth.
Maybe. Or maybe they terminated themselves first.
Aliens are watching us all the time
Or perhaps they've been around for millions of years, maybe longer. We might even owe them our existence.
The idea of divergent galactic civilization evolutions is fascinating, and that they may never be in touch with each other🤯 Wow! Just Wow!
like we have anything but endless waring to offer them, no wonder the aliens avoided us with the way we are.