THIS is why the 250 gram drone threshold means NOTHING
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If your drone weighs 251 grams and you fly without registration and remote id, the govt and public freaks out. Yet, a 18 year old kid can go out and get his drivers license and then that very day buy a 3000+lb car that does 0-60 in 3 seconds and goes 170+ mph and nobody bats an eye....
Actually 250g and up
No one says humans are rational creatures. Far from it.
You must not live in the "liberal " NE where everything is illegal. Drivers, in particular, are guilty until proven innocent. Driving a few mph over the limit is considered attempted murder.
This is what bureaucrats do. They spend their sorry lives making the lives of normal people miserable.
You said it correctly!
Unless you're doing part 107 operations, don't register any of your drones. Do not comply with hobby killing regulations
It may be considered a marketing ploy in the US, but it isn't in other parts of the world. We can fly over people and cars, and in controlled airspace with a sub-250 g drone in Canada, as long as we are not wreckless. No need to register a sub-250 g drone and no pilot certificate needed. Also, Transport Canada doesn't differenciate between commercial and recreational flying. Flying is flying, and the airspace authority doesn't make rules outside of its jurisdiction. Drone companies don't build drones just for the US market. Many other countries have very relaxed rules for micro Drone.
Thanks for the clarification for Canadian rules.
He cares not about stuff that counters what he says. What he says is law. Respect it.
/s
Removed the FAA registration # and my phone # from all my drones (which are all above 250g). I fly safely and monitor traffic in the airspace around me every time I fly, which is mostly over unpopulated fields, woods and lakes. The FAA can go pound sand.
Yea I have been flying rc for decades and have hundreds of hours on drones also.....don't have any fcc numbers on my stuff....what are they gonna do throw me in jail ......no they are gonna go do more Important shit. Just stupid.
@@scottykardos BTW the FCC rules apply to RC aircraft also not just drones Skippy. SuAS doesn't mean drone!!!
@@silbay lol you think they don’t know.
@@scottykardos I mean, you guys can keep on f-ing around and find out. The likelihood is that nothing will happen but it's like a seat belt, in a way. I'd rather pay a $5 registration and put an ugly sticker on my drone than risk 3 yrs. in jail and $30K-$250K in fines. But, I mean, you do you.... What can they do, right??
I feel sorry for all the young kids flying there birthday toys and getting arrested cause they have no license.
It's a great way for them to learn how to make prison toilet wine.
It’s not a marketing scheme for drones under 250g. It literally says you can be exempt from 107, if you are under specific guidelines.
register a toy? remote id's? sub 250g? land of the free? nah ill pass
I’ll get my a license for a sub 250g. When the birds get theirs.
@@maphyous228 hella right.
😂🦅🦅🦅
Amen
250g DOES MATTER. Does not matter when it comes to flying over people, that's true, no matter what the weight. IT DOES MATTER when it comes to remote ID. If it's not necessary to register the drone because of the weight then remote ID is not required. Very significant reason why weight DOES MATTER.
THIS is a good point. If your Mini 2 or 3 is registered, you’ll be required to load it up with a remote idee transmitter, probably bringing it over 250g anyway.
Thanks, I’ll reserve registration of my Mini 2. It’s strictly a toy.
Now if I go into business, I’ll get the 107 and register THE HEAVY.
CORRECT.
Little 3d printed clip with my ID on it. Take it off my mini 2 when I dont have any attachments XD
Faa approved flying over people. Just not flying over in large quantities in crowded places. Same as flying over cars it does not specify trucks or busses nor whether they are parked or traveling. One would assume that substaned assembly of people would be a gathering or group defined as 2 or more within a 10ft radius. Not people walking down a sidewalk 10 or more feet apart. What about flying over house unknowingly with 30+ people inside. Where does this BS stop? I myself am restricting all air operations over my land and will be charging all planes helicopters and birds with trespassing. Oh all flying bugs too. Do I charge the neighbors for their bugs trespassing? Air space is everyone's space not to be regulated over a damn toy . I'll keep my toy under 400ft from launch point and away from airports and stadiums and such and FAA can fuck off. Because I don't see the NFL following FAA guidelines for the football that's flying over large groups of people 🙄
If you're worried about a flyaway write your name/number on the drone and tell the government to pound sand.
Total gov overreach.
The problem with registration, is that by doing that, you're giving away your ownership of your drone. None of you reading this understand this.
true that. and with the digital id thingy the sub 250 gram drone WILL be a good thing lol plus its just smaller!
It's just like "registering" your vehicle with the state... gives them automatic jurisdiction over you as an "operator".
@@SailingSarah Ok, well YOU understand it, but most people don't.
Outside the USA, a sub 250g drone does have its advantages. For example, I can fly over uninvolved people and cars! But I can’t fly over crowds. Here in the UK that “marketing” is based on real laws.
250g is actually only a restriction if you choose to allow it to be one. Another option is to choose to fly responsibly & safely, without registration and without remote ID.
I agree😁
And with where I am it's a 3 hour drive one way to the FAA test center. So 6 hours plus fees to fly over remote swamps and woods. It's 2 hours if you call for state police they can't even keep unregistered motor vehicles off roads. Took them 3 months to find a guy that shot 2 state troopers in the woods.
I'm near a busy GA airport, but fly safely and stay outta their way, and nobody cares. The FAA just _had_ to overcomplicate things. I honestly doubt that even 5% of them have a single hour of logged time.
I obey the Regs. as they are written here. Accordingly, my Phantom, has a takeoff weight of less than 250 grams. The landing weight, is considerably higher though.
In a 4 foot hover, after takeoff, I snip the string that attaches the large helium balloon. A video of the scale/snip documents the launch. They can go pound sand. I'm a pilot, I can fly thousands of pounds of metal, over a city, at night, with thousands of sleeping people below, with human passengers, and they are going to tell me I'm not qualified to fly my Phantom? The UAV related fines here, are insane. up to 5K for first offence. There was an idiot a few years back, who recklessly flew his commercially registered Eurocopter, which was overdue on several inspections, legally not airworthy, over an assembly of people @ less than 200 feet AGL, while allegedly impaired. (not proven) For all those violations, he got a 1 month suspension of his licence, and a $750 fine. These UAV Regs, are not about safety. They will continue to enact more stringent laws, requiring less and less capable hardware, that will legally require more and more expense. Like Mode C, on a UAV of less than 250 grams or some crap. They want to kill it as a hobby. They will issue exemptions, if they feel like it, like they do for the police. And the fees. They will go up. CBS will be able to afford it, but the hobbyist wont. I'm just happy the people writing these regs, have no imagination. So many stupid regs. Unlawful to exit, or attempt to exit an aircraft in flight, except for making a parachute descent, or not mounting weapons designed, or adapted for use in warfare to a civil aircraft. A Remington semi auto hunting rifle in each wing would not violate the Regs, as written. They can't help themselves. A licencing inspector onve tried to violate someone, for opening uo their canopy, and tossing out a toilet paper roll, and trying to cut it with the prop as many times as altitude allowed, in uncontrolled, sparsely populated airspace/terrain. When he could not find a suitable reg, he tried to make a littering charge stick. It disappears after the first rain. He failed to make anything stick, but succeeded in making a bit of harmless fun, into something miserable. That's what drives them The idea of anybody getting away with having fun, is just unthinkable.
That shiny headed guy sounds like a rule follower that used to get beat up in junior high
or just never register your drones its none of the governments business what i do in my free time just another trick to get money outta people
Do you register your automobile? Do pilots have a responsibility to register and follow the rules? You are a pilot. If you were unfortunate to get in a serious crash you could be fined at a rate much higher than someone that followed the rules.
@@penultimatename6677 Do you post your cellphone number and home address on the outside of your vehicle? Broadcast on public airwaves the precise location & speed of your car to anyone interested in knowing this data? Your analogy is flawed.
@@slapdat.byteme I agree there are issues with remote ID. Certainly the location of controller should not be known to the public.
You provide proof of age to a bartender. You are providing more information than is required. Your mobile phone through triangulation is providing more information than anyone should reveal. This isn't necessarily to law enforcement. I agree privacy is extremely important.
As a Pilot the plane you fly has markings. Of course we have a license on our vehicles. Is there much of a difference?
The question maybe whether a government agency is allowed to force rules upon people controlling a moving vehicle.
@@penultimatename6677 The difference, and it’s a HUGE difference, is that showing my drivers license, passport, etc is a consenting 1-to-1 release of my info to a law enforcement official and not a general broadcast to who knows how many civilians. Again, your comparison logic is flawed.
@@slapdat.byteme I'm not disagreeing with you. Just pointing out common talking points which may or may not be relevant. I take security very seriously but we do know there is a push pull relationship. Between keeping the public safe and honoring our right to privacy.
In Canada you DO NOT have to register sub 250 gram drones
I'm not going to register anything
you could lose your drone
Good! 👍👌 I wish you the best of luck in your fight against injustice and over-regulation 👏👏
If you don't register them they won't know who to arrest.
From what I’ve read, you also don’t need to have remote ID for sub 250g drones as long as you’re flying recreationally. So you get two benefits for sub 250g drone pilots who are doing this as a hobby
"Your not being tracked" LOL dream on little dreamer.
FFS, all the people that bent over backwards for the government over a hobby/toys. If I have a Cessna flying sub 400 AGL around my area there are bigger issues.
That city was hoping that guy didn’t have a license so they could fine him. It’s all about money.
That is not the case, the city does not have jurisdiction over airspace and therefore could not fine him.
I think CT government workers just have nothing better to do lol
@@redhawkdrone3403i like this argument. I’m eventually going to have an issue with a neighbor or another rando calling the cops saying i tried to attack them or their dog or was looking at someone in their window. It’s crucial to have recording always. I have 1.5 hour of flight time. I’m very new here.
Correct me if I am wrong please.....but if you are sub 250, you have to follow all flight rules and restrictions, but do not have to be registered or 107 licensed if flying for fun, correct? That seems like a very important factor to me.
Correct
It's only $5 to register, then you can fly over 250 under recreational
Sure. Once you are licensed.....pretty big hurdle for most people. Not to mention the extreme distaste most people have for 'registering' anything.
So what the FAA says is not the law, this is why we have 3 branches of government, The FAA is trying to make rules and in many cases these are violating a lot of existing laws. So risk vs danger, a 250 gram drone is not the same as a Cessna 172 that weighs 1,669 lbs. saying you did something risky without any injuries, fatalities or property damage is going to be hard sale to any judge or jury. Plenty of drone haters at all levels of the government. Opinions and hysteria are not a good reason to make laws or rules. The data shows drones under 600 grams are extremely safe. We have zero reports of a drone weighing under 600 grams in the USA ever taking down a manned aircraft and zero fatalities as result of an accident between a micro toy drone and real aircraft. So why all the buzz? Greed the federal government wants to cash in and sell your backyard to amazon and google drone delivery. They need remote id to do this because if amazon and google delivery drones start crashing over your kids playing in the back yard they will get shut down very quickly.
They already have billions. It's more about restricting our ability to use high altitude surveillance, but yes, nobody asked them to do anything about drones because there's zero need to regulate the hobby.
The confusion probably comes from the fact that some countries such as mine UK do allow sub 250g drones more freedoms such as flying over uninvolved people etc.
Flying over crowds is strictly prohibited here though even for sub 250g drones.
I do think sub 250g drones should be encouraged as now the mini 3 is out they strike what i think is a fair compromise between safety and functionality.
Yeah I think you’re right. I watch a lot of TH-cam videos that do come out of Europe and then it even mention that they’re flying over people. That’s why I thought it was relaxed in the states. After I wrote that I went right to the FAA laws, and there it was, no flying over people less you have a category one drone which is only technically available in Japan.
I really think they should widen the regulations based on weight class. If I'm gonna get bonked in the head by a drone then I'd damn sure rather it be a Mini 3 (yay, free drone!) than say an Inspire or a Matrice. 🤣
People shouldnt be walking under my drone.
Any person that uses a drone without knowing the law is basically illegally flying just like it is illegal to drive without your license which it implies you learned the law for driving.
The marketing for under 250 grams has nothing to do with illegal flying. All those commercials and descriptions for those drones only say you don't have to register the drone in most countries. That is it.
And that idea of registering all drones, I disagree. If you register your drone that is under 250 grams, you will need to follow the remote ID mandate.
No thanks
Two things that should be clarified. Just because a 107 cert pilot is operating a drone it does not necessarily mean that that drone must be registered - it only depends on the type of operation it's being used for (recreational or commercial). Also, If a sub 250 drone (the Mini 2) is not going to be used for commercial purposes I do not recommend registering it. Once you register your Mini 2 or or Autel Nano+ it will need to RID compliant. If it's not registered it does not need to RID compliant. The Mini 3 Pro (and Mini 3) is on the FAA DEC list (and it has built-in RID already turned on) is because it can potentially be over 250g with the extended battery.
So, the Mini 3 Pro will automatically transmit Remote ID info straight out of the box, because of the “potential” to be over 250g? This is the first I’ve heard of this.
No. I will not register all my drones.
Not once did you state the actual benefit of registering. If I lose a drone and want it back, I can just put my phone number on it.
Outside of that, you gave zero reasons why it is a benefit to me.
They did mention it; said something about if they have a flyaway and "if some well intentioned" person wanted to return the drone they found, etc.
@@sollithTech "outside of that"
@@GoatZilla Indeed, placing a phone number on free flight and RC models was standard practice years ago, way before this silly registration system was introduced.
Not benefit of registering. The dude who said “just register everything” is a moron, a government bootlicker.
Under recreational rules, you don't register every uas. You register once, and that number goes on each.
I am a Commercial Pilot and Flight Instructor, and Instrument Flight Instructor, and Advanced Ground Instructor. I just received my Part 107 certificate. I am of the understanding that a Part 107 pilot can transition overhead traffic or pedestrians. If overflying pedestrians I believe the prop guards must be in place to overfly people. The "trick questions" are not "tricks", but are rather questions designed to measure one's "understanding" of the subject of the question. Yep... they do require a little more study.
I fly fixed wing rc; on a fixed location; no fpv equipment on board; line of sight all of the time; wtf do I need a sectional chart for? I'm not going cross country if any pilot thinks of it!
I mean...sub 250 does exempt the drone from remote ID...so...I'd say that counts as a big deal. Right?
Like politicians, they’ve made that statement and now can’t back away from it.
Unless you are a Part 107. Then it has to have Remote ID. How my
It's ridiculous to create legislation when the technology for remote id doesn't even exist. These laws are insane!
@@glenwhatley7366 One the one hand, it sounds ridiculous the way you worded it. On the other hand, Bluetooth dongles and GPS receivers aren't exactly exotic tech. Grab a Bluetooth TTL dongle from Sparkfun for $3, and a GPS from the same site, plug them together and there ya go. Hardly anyone is going to snap those two things together and put them on a drone until after the law is passed.
I also appreciate that the rule leaves open other ways to comply - you can do it any way that makes sense for your application, provided the FAA agrees that it meets the requirements. Vs requiring everyone to buy and use one specific product.
someone correct me if i'm wrong, but in the UK at least, and possibly europe, the importance of sub 250 is that you can fly in a lot more places- In the US afaik you just need to register if over 250g, but the areas you can fly are the same for a mini as they are for a matrice
“250g is a marketing ploy” - in the US.
In the U.K. and europe the rules for drones under 250g are very different
$5 isn't my hangup on registering a drone. Its Remote ID. My question is if I register my sub 250 gram drone and non part 107, then dosent that set me up for having to add remote id to my sub 250 Drone??
A year later...
And i still cant figure out why a
5k-$500k car requires a 36$ fee for a license...
But a 200-1200$ drone license costs 175$ for the equivalent of permission to upload footage by a third party no less😂😂😂
And even then you can still get charged or "fee'd" for something trivial.
Yeah, it doesn't make any sense
If you register a drone, are you then required to broadcast RID on that drone? With the Mini 4 Pro, the drone does not transmit RID if using the standard battery but does if you use the Mini 3 Pro or extended battery. If registering the drone makes RID transmission a requirement, then it will cost me the price of either new batteries or a module in addition to the $5 registration fee. This is the reason mine isn't registered as I only fly recreationally and I only own the standard batteries for my drone.
Well, nobody ever said the government uses logic when implementing policy.
@@KenHeron no, but we're still required to adhere to current laws. If registering a drone then requires that drone to broadcast RID, and you're drone currently doesn't require RID and doesn't broadcast it (such as the mini 4 pro), that would be a good reason not to register it.
I just took the FAA Part 107 (two days ago). In my opinion, they were not "trick" questions but questions to determine if you know truly know the concepts and can extrapolate based on that knowledge. Passed with 'flying colors' but had to work for every point.
please stop flying planes over my head, car, house, state highways.. tampa airport
Over people also means directly over them. The only way you would know is if your camera were pointed directly down all the time. If the camera is pointed out at any angle, and a person is seen, you arent over them. People see a drone in the air, anywhere, and they swear you were 'over' them.
When a drone is at 50+ feet the illusion gets even worse. I put a drone directly over myself visually, and then panned the camera down to find that I was off by considerable distance. Visually anything within about 5 degrees of vertical appeared to be directly overhead.
no need to register
its not a Gun, I am not going to Register Mine, its a Hobby, Not Real Rocket Science.
I'm retired. Driving for me is a hobby. Nice to know that I don't have to license my car, stop at red lights, etc. Maybe someone will get hurt as a result, but that's ok because I'm just doing my hobby.
@@marcmcreynolds2827 a drone that is for hobyist weigs under a kilo, a car weigs over 1000 kilo.
"a drone that is for hobyist weigs (weighs) under a kilo, a car weigs (weighs) over 1000 kilo" How true, but the subject is whether or not public risk stops mattering just because someone is doing something for fun instead of profit. BTW during my time in the aircraft engineering business, the "bird test" was done at not a lot more than a kilo, vs 1000.
It's notable that in public comments during the FAA rulmaking process, some aircraft companies wanted the "toy" limit set at 0 g. 250 g was the FAA striking a balance between various interests. Airspace traffic below 400 ft is about to look a whole lot different than it has for the past hundred-plus years, and regulators are preparing for that. Sure, I wish I could just keep doing what I've always done, but like it or not the world is changing.
@@marcmcreynolds2827 You Have Not made a point Yet for Public Safety, So Babble is no reason for Abuse of Congress To regulate For Proffit's of Spy Materials needed To Spy on USA People with their Own Devices, I will not pay, To Pay for People to Police That Wich Has no Public Safety in mind, But only has intent to Regulate it into Confiscations. Like I said its not a Gun and Has No intent for Abuse to the Public for Safety, No Terrorist is Gunna Reister a Drone to Get Caught intentionally for Abusing its intent. The US Forest Sirvice no longer Takes Care of the Forest, it Polices it. Fences The Public off From it.
@@marcmcreynolds2827 The risk for 2tonne car is orders of magnitude higher than a sub 250gram RPAS. It is a bad analogy. By that logic baseball, kite flying, golf, playing catch, fresbee, etc should all be band. These activities also extend into the lower airspace.
I have just been on the FAA Drone Zone to do as you stated, to register my 249g Drone. The website itself states this at the "add device" page: "Recreational flyers must add manufacturer and model information for all UAS over 0.55 pounds that they own and operate." This is 249g which means that the Mavic Mini 1 or 2 does not need to be registered for recreational use.
That is the way I understand it, however, the flights must not be anything that the FAA would consider to be a Part 107 activity, then it does. So, if you abide by all the other rules, no entity gets any benefit, and you don't use or post the video, then you should be OK. By the way, money doe NOT have to be involved. Even posting a video on TH-cam promotes one's personal business (their esteem or rating or whatever). This has already been indicated by FAA representatives.
@@buddyadkins2432 Yes, we know that, but there's a clear distinction between 'flying for commercial use' and a drone operator flying for a hobby. 'Commercial use' is usually interpreted in the UK to mean as a business for financial gain.
@@NomadicNight In the USA, the FAA defines commercial use as "In the furtherance of a business". In this case furtherance means any benefit, ANY of any kind even charity, even personal. And business is interpreted to be ANY entity whether a formal business or not. Each person has their own "personal business". Think not, ever hear anyone say "stay out of my business". Posting on YT is in the furtherance (benefit) of the poster's business (promoting one's self). Anything other than just flying for FUN and not posting the video is considered a Part 107 activity. We might not think that it is not right, but it is certainly Real.
@@buddyadkins2432 I was only referring to our UK laws, not USA. We have a different flight regulator here, called the CAA, so different rules apply here.
Sub 250 category helps with the ignorance argument in court. I honestly know nothing about the FAA or their rules. I bought my drone on Amazon. Doesn't the faa regulate aircraft? The ones with doors and wheels falling off. Boom no punishment. Unless you fly into an area you shouldn't or disturb aircraft.
Yes yes...just register everything ...the government SURELY won't use the information to affect you negatively. Oh no no no. Just comply...it'll alllllll be fine 👀
😂 you def paying attention Ty 😂😂
@@TTime685 not me man...regardless of where you stood on the virus...watching how the government moved over the last 3 years shows me exactly what they would do if the shit really hits the fan.
Yall can comply. I'm going to do what I always have. Enjoy my hobby responsibly. Stay away from people. Wash. Rinse. Repeat.
The sub 250g drone thing is real, and makes a big difference in most of the world. In the US, there's no practical benefit to using a sub 250g drone, but that's more due to over-zealousness on the part of FAA regulators, and not a scam by the drone industry. There's a reason that the DJI mini 3 is only now becoming available in the US, when it's been out for months in other countries where it makes a difference.
Under 250g in the United States right now for recreational flyers really doesn’t matter much, BUT once Remote ID comes to pass it definitely will. Remote ID is not required for sub-250g recreational flights. Sub 250 mini drone owners will not need to worry about retrofitting their quad for that purpose in the near future.
The 250 grams and part 107 thing are a scam to stop people with learning disabilities to pass the test and make an honest living. Basically it is another tax system that puts more money in the usual peoples pockets. Sad world we live in.
If your worry is about retrofitting a remote-ID hardware module, then sure, sub-250 recreational fliers will be clear. If your worry is about privacy, and the information sharing, I suspect many existing drones will be complying via firmware updates, which will have them sending out Remote-ID data packets all the time, giving away the remote pilot's location, registered or not, regardless of weight.
@@ae1582 yes exactly you should always upgrade to the latest and greatest privacy killer update lol 😂! I wish you could just fly with the default software like in the old days. Can’t stand the constant forced updates
@@ae1582 yes exactly you should always upgrade to the latest and greatest privacy killer update lol 😂! I wish you could just fly with the default software like in the old days. Can’t stand the constant forced updates !
Yes, I am strongly against the FAA's proposed implementation of Remote ID for those reasons and others. For recreational flyers who don't want to deal with any of that, and care about staying legal or choosing a new drone that doesn't have it installed, under 250g is about to become a huge deal in roughly a year from now.
It remains to be seen if DJI or other companies will force FAA-compliant Remote ID via firmware update on their sub-250g drones or not. I don't think they will, but then again, they have AeroScope as it is...
Either way, there will be plenty of sub-250g manufacturers who will have zero FAA-Remote ID implementations to pick from.
In the US if you fly as a part 107 UAS for any business practice then you must register the drone no matter what size it is. If you are flying for fun then you do not have to register a sub250 drone.
and you dont need remote ID either. so that's the way to go right now.
The sub 250 thing he was referring to is not about having to register, but about qualifying as a category 1 (described under 107.110), which means you can fly directly over people (provided you meet the other requirements). I don't know why people getting this mixed up.
People get things mixed up, because the Police here in the UK think they're the only ones who know the law, even when they don't, or misquote it, and so there's confusion from them, as well as the general confusion regarding drones.
I’m so sick and tired of everything being over-regulated. I’ve flown Giant scale RC aircraft for decades. We “policed” ourselves in an effort to prevent these regs from infringing on the hobby.
But with all things there are always bad actors that ruin it for everyone else.
That famous Shakespeare quote about lawyers comes to mind 🤔
I just got my first drone (DJI Mini 3) and started familiarizing myself with Transport Canada's drone rules. I was surprised to find that in Canada, from what I can tell so far, you don't need the equivalent of the FAA's part 107 license to use a sub-250g drone for commercial purposes.
Honestly, I'm a bit shocked by the number of rules for drones but Canada's rules seem relatively more straightforward than the US'. I'm probably going to end up having to register the Mini 3 and get a RPAS basic operations license since I'd like to use the DJI plus battery for extended flight time and possibly a strobe for night flights or to assist with extending daytime VLOS.
Speaking of being prepared, I got the drone on the weekend and still haven't flown the damn thing. I'm sadly one of those read the manual thoroughly, do a bit of research, and plan things out sort of guys lol; I couldn't bring myself to just rush in an fly it. Unfortunately, now it's going to rain for the next couple of days with 60km/h wind gusts. Bah!
You're smart to educate yourself thoroughly before flying it. 🇨🇦👍
Nobody is going to weigh your drone. Government bodies are predators and you should never obey or be obvious.
@@TTime685 Huh? Why would I buy something that doesn't have the feature set I want just because it's my first drone? Maybe if I was 10 it'd be a concern but I'm not and my Mini 3 is still working great and zero crashes so far. Thanks. 👍
I have never read anywhere or heard from anyone at any point ever that 250 grams or less allows you to bypass faa. However, the faa does not require you to register as long as you are not using the drone for commercial purpose and you are not performing any action that is only permitted via having a license, which would include flying a drone higher that 250 grams.
I don't think anyone believes that 250 grams or less allows you to bypass faa regulations. It seems more so the person you're discussing just misunderstood the regulation, not disregarded it.
In Serbia sub 250g is not regulated in any way so technically you can fly it anywhere (secton 1 . paragraf 1 of regulation).
I'm beginning to rethink wanting to get involved with drones. Too much government licenses that can be taken away for BS reasons (and fines too). Also, there seem to be Karens all over the place threatening to narc on anyone flying drones (even legally) around every corner!
Nah, it's not that bad.
Hop in the drone pool... The water is fine!
To be fair Sub 250g matters more in Europe - especially in the UK - which is likely where the myth comes from
The more people comply, the harder the crack down will be.
Now that this video is 2 years old there have been some changes. Under 249 grams and recreational; besides not needing to register you don't need REMOTE ID! Plus DJI just came out with a 113 gram drone with complete propeller guards for $200. You don't even need a controller to operate it with the factory generic settings. You can control it and tweak setting with your smart phone app.via bluetooth. And you have even more control and range with it using some of the new controllers.
even 2 years ago you didn't need to register a 250g and less drone. I dunno what the top guy is on!
That’s crazy. I put videos on TH-cam of my town’s library and the county judge executive hired me to do a topographic map of a county property Where they are building a new park. I think a lot of it just depends on the concentration of assholes in any particular area.
True. The cool people to asshole quotient is a skew in this country. 🤓
If you go to my channel looking for the one of the Library it’s called safety day I think. The property at the county had me do a topographical survey on coincidentally is the same property from the video on my channel called housefire
@@KenHeron My county is really nice. It’s Webster county Kentucky, you probably know it. It’s the Walmart dead zone in between Madisonville and Henderson. Come to think of it, I think the reason why my county is so good is because we don’t have a Walmart.
@@trapperjohn6089 What does a local government pay for a topo map?
Sub 250 because I don't want to register my recreational drone and I don't want to add a remote ID to my drone. Of course you have follow the rules, but I don't want Karens using a drone tracking phone app to harass me in my own yard. These guys are full of it, or they are focused on only on Part 107. I definitely would stay away from remotepilot101, the guy's arrogance was annoying.
It seems like if you don't need to register, they still push you and deceive you so you'll pay for the class and be on your way to registering. That's what I keep finding.
the dumb thing abt remote id is that any and every drone will need it, even sub 250's.
LOL Frankly
Mass non-compliance is the only way.
@@Zachary77 LOL
The
I'm in the US.
@@KenHeron lol same
Rolls eyes on draconian rules that don't actually make people safer.
What makes people fly safer?
The law enforcement here in Placerville CA have way more important things to do. Sheriff's deputies have pulled up on me flying over construction sites and never gave me any shit ...very polite ...never asked me for ID. They wondered why I was just standing there ....then they figured it out .....politely waited for me to land and we started bullshited about the drones they use. Cool to hang and talk about drone stuff. Nice
You're very lucky.
I’m from Placerville. Ponderosa 1990.
Watching from Canada the amount of freedom and 0 restrictions with our sub 250g drones is crazy. We are so lucky to have the freedom we have. Able to fly over people, cars, roads, and no height or VLOS restrictions. Use common sense and dont be dumb are the only must for sub 250g drones here. I have had my mini for 2 weeks and have been up to 500m 3kms out more then these Americans have for years of owning because they cant well not legally.
America regulates featherweight drones... but not machine guns. Madness. 😮😢😮
@@canadiangemstones7636 with all due respect what the hell are you talking about? Fully automatic guns have been illegal and heavily regulated for decades lmao. The process to legally obtaining one is both extremely time consuming and wildly expensive.
Canadians in general are smarter! 😊
@@canadiangemstones7636machine guns are regulated
I get you guys like to poke fun at overly paranoid people but with how everything is going with social credit systems and police busting people for "future crimes" Im starting to expand my thoughts to include these once outrageous claims as possible, perhaps not probable, but possible nonetheless.
I'm from the government and im here to help
According to the FAA a drone under 250 grams do not have to be registered 😅
They do if you're using it for 107. 😆
They said to register all of your drones and forget saving the $5 but then you have to have remote ID if you register your drones!!! You just got to know the difference between recreational and part 107!!! I have four drones over 250 g and now they are retired cuz I'm not switching them over to remote ID!!
Drones that weigh less than 250 grams and are being used recreationally do not need to comply with Remote ID. All drones that weigh above the threshold and are being used recreationally, however, still need to comply. Drones used by the Federal government are exempted from Remote ID requirements.Aug 29, 2022
(Is this true???) Please confirm.
So remote id for us but not them!
Its probably someone on city council who just got into drones and their being drone police because they became acquainted with the rules and think they know everything.
So my question is in reference to the upcoming Remote ID requirement. On the FAA's web page for recreational drone flight there's a list of 9 criteria you must follow, number 8 has a note that states that all drones that are required to be registered will also be required to have remote ID. My question is; does that mean if I register my sub-250g drone, will I be required to get remote ID as well?
I have a question, will lighter than air UAS (less than 250g), like foreign countries like the China’s “weather balloon”, require remote ID?
I own several drones now. I just purchased a mini 3 pro and already had to mod it to get rid of that stupid remote id crap. As of right now I only have one drone registered My original Mavic. I don't even fly it anymore. I also have 3 others above the 250g weight I will NOT register them due to the fact of this remote id crap. It's no bodies business knowing where I am at or any other information about me or my drone.
Could you please point me in the direction of doing this myself?
I’m technologically (software and hardware) capable, yet I’ve been completely unable to find any resources on how this might be done.
I’m getting a mini 3 pro in the next few days, but only if I know I can ensure that remote id isn’t forced on me.
Just register. Compliant people are destined to be ruled by tyrants. Never do anything voluntarily when the government is asking.
Err... don't you mean "Just *don't* register" ? 🤔🙄
That rule only applies to the USA. In some parts of the world, under 250 drones have different flight rules than the larger drones and not just registration.
Yes in the Uk CAA rules allow us to fly drones less than 250g over people (not crowds of people) and in urban areas close to buildings with no restriction except restricted airspace such as prisons/airports etc. All you need is a flyer ID marked marked on the drone which requires a fee and passing a simple quiz on the law relating to drones. However, the caveat is that the operator is required to always minimise risks to people and property so you can still be found guilty of flying recklessly if you don’t take account of conditions and modify your flying accordingly.
I was thinking the same thing, but they had just previously mentioned something about the FAA, so I thought it was clear in retrospect. Good call out though, in case anyone in another country missed it.
I was thinking that in the UK (and Europe?) 250g was allowed to fly over people. We live in a global information space these days and people seem prone to confusing US and UK laws as many videos, if you do not watch content from that channel often, does not always make clear the country its content refers to. Social media is usually a very unreliable source for facts as opinion is often sold as fact without any reference to where rules and regulations can be found. People like Ken are in short supply as many others will tell you things that are just going to get you in trouble
In Australia a hobby flier does not have to be registered, or at a CASA approved field, to use a sub 250g aircraft. They must maintain LOS, & stay (horizontally) 30m away from people, cars, & buildings.
Yay!!! in the UK we can fly sub 250g over people, traffic and built up areas etc. - just not a "crowd".
It’s what’s wrong with the community, all these people wanting to dictate what they feel is the rules and law without even understanding it truly themselves .Just selling their service for their websites .
Everyone wants to be to be all tell all , so much mixed up miss information in this vid , but oh .. join our website and we’ll teach you .
Exactly. Education is key:
remotepilot101.com/
Lol point exactly
I'm curious what you're referring to exactly. Where is the misinformation?
Your first clue to the "Karen" causing the trouble: Connecticut
🤣🤣
These towns are out of control. All the government is unfortunately.
Not knowing the FAA rules I post the European rules saying that flying above crowds is prohibited. A "crowd" is a mass of people unable to run away due to the surrounding people. Of course getting close, zooming in and identifying people is prohibited. Filming buildings under construction is no problem. It's rather popular!
Wrong. you in fact can fly over people and vehicles with a sub 250g drone. You can not fly over "crowds" of people like sporting events or protests.
"Do not fly the drone over groups of people
It is not allowed for you to fly the drone over stadiums or sports events."
I think the FAA testing procedures are totally out of touch with reality. I earned a sport pilot’s license many years ago that was understood to be for my powered parachute. On it was questions about how to land and position a tail dragger airplane correctly for the wind. Another was how airliners vertically space themselves at 25-30 thousand feet, depending on their compass heading. Many such more. That’s like putting questions on a plumbers test concerning what the boiling point of water on Jupiter is. FAA is totally out of touch with reality and too lazy and cheap to hire proper test designers.
the world don't have enough manpower or resources to solve all the murders and catch and properly punish real crime, but sure let's go after some flying toys, "do not comply" i believe is a moral stance against overreach of power, as long as you aren't endangering people or property it shouldn't be a big deal
Some of the regulations are bullshit and make no sense unless you work for a corporation doing drone deliver or work for NASA or some DoD contractor or something. In the case of most "amateur photographer" types, some of the rules don't make sense, particularly for light sub-250g drones (a ball at the park can have way more force behind it if it accidently hits someone in many circumstances...); its basically a glorified, over engineered tripod. As far as privacy goes, are they going to start auto blurring phone cameras that can now zoom up to 100x, getting a reasonably clear photo of someone up to a mile or more away, like some dystopian Black Mirror episode? Drones are noisy; you won't even know my camera phone was there. That being said, stricter regulations in a densely populated urban area do make sense, and requiring some basic education and training in general is good to filter out some types, but the knee-jerk laws and regulations from some butthurt official are usually just never helpful to anyone except a few people's egos.
The City has ZERO authority over airspace; the FAA does. I wonder why he did not say that he was flying under 49 USC 44809 (Recreational) instead of 14 CFR 107. 1) He was flying for the pure joy of flying 2) He was following a CBO's safety guidelines 3) Flying within visual line of sight. If FPV, he had a VO. 4) He was not interfering with aircraft 5) He was not in Class A, B, C, D or E airspace 5) He was flying in Class G airspace, under 400 ft AGL, 6) He did not say he had an FAA Trust certificate 6) and under recreational rules, he does not need a registration for drones under 250g. 7) He did not indicate that he had propeller guards.
Cities don't have authority over airspace BUT more and more are passing ordinances that prohibit launching/landing on city property, essentially outlawing drones entirely.
@@garymathe9863 The same wokesters want electri air taxies and drone delivery. Go figure
This is all bullshit, I'm so glad I own a large piece of property that I can fly my rc planes at, no FAA bureaucratic bullshit to deal with, no AMA membership required, I'm 20 miles from the airport, 10 miles from town and my closest neighbor is a mile away. I fly line of sight with all my aircraft and absolutely no drones flown on this property.
..ALWAYS think the same thing. Rural, NOWHERE even close to a city..much less a ‘big’ city. Just seems the FAA (.gov) thrives on being a BIG pain by throwing up a LOT OF UNNECESSARY roadblocks.
This is just another example of government overreach on something they don't like. Afterall, it is Conneticut(SP)
Ha I live it Connecticut lol this is why I don’t post much drone stuff bc Connecticut if full of Karens
I’ve got all my pilots licenses including an ATP. The so-called trick questions were carefully designed to make you fully understand the material instead of just filling the squares for passing the test. Study the material and understand it, instead of studying to pass the test.
I'm amazed the city took the time to repeatedly demand proof of his license when they had his first and last name.. Did they really think it was easier to keep asking rather than look up his license themselves on the faa site? LOL
Might be correct for US, but not for us in Europe. Here it's an absolute gamechanger regulationwise !
Exactly, in EU sub 250 needs only that operator is registered and then operator number is put on a drone. You can fly above cars, people(not crowds) etc.
@@qb4hkm UK....You do not need to register if the drone or model aircraft you'll fly is one of the following: a toy below 250g or in C0 class. C0 class with no camera, whether it's a toy or not. below 250g with no camera and no class mark, whether it's a toy or not.
Great vid! Saved for reference later. I totally avoided flying over cars and people but this transit exception will be handy.
I fly in Europe, have a Mini 3. It needs to be registered and insured, but I can fly over people and property. I have a license also. So, perhaps not in the US, but in Europe the below 250g is a legal limit.
Yeah, there's a difference in regulations when you are flying with a sub 250 gram drone in Europe or the USA. But Ken is talking about the FAA (USA) rules.
@@vanvugtdronecinematography7769 Agreed. Would still be better for Ken to put up "FAA" or "US" in the title for many first flyers. 😉
I would have thought that the FAA logo in the thumbnail would have covered that. 🤓👍
This is FAA…..
@@KenHeron For me it's absolutely fine but I know that when searching, it will be helpful to have it as text too.
By the way, I love your videos all around drones. Many greetings to Kentucky, where I have yet to travel too. Are all people as nice and funny as you there? 🤗👍
Ken dude is incorrect. Pt 107 can still fly recreationally. Also, transitioning over people/ traffic is allowed.
Of course you can. Dude knows this as well. 👍
As a hobbyist why on Earth would I want to register my under 250g fixed wing?
I’m sure bad actors are looking to register and comply with all this nonsense.
You can fly a drone that’s under 250 g above people as long as they are uninvolved. Meaning you can’t fly above a crowd, but you can fly above people just walking around the city.
He would have just better if you just would have not responded to the letters. As soon as you start dealing with idiots you end up with idiot hoop jumping.
The best thing about the sub 250gram drones.... it's good to take out of the country. Many countries will allow you to fly these Mini Drones in there country if under Sub 250 because it bypases the registration of that country. Mexico and Greece have been the two that has helped me.
America the biggest police state
Sub 250g is a big deal in other countries like in Canada. Sub 250g is only bound to CAR 900.06 in section IX or the CARs. No registration, no certification, no specific restriction for controlled airspace (though not recommended). NOTAMs, class F restricted still apply though.
It’s a big deal in the USA also with Remote ID around the corner. A few of these guys have been saying sub 250 is no big deal and cannot back away from that statement.
If I'm flying exclusively inside, I ain't registering Sh!t
Nor do you have to. FAA does not control the airspace inside buildings. :)
@@bradleywhais7779i have to find abandon buildings to fly..
@@bradleywhais7779 but they actually say they do in the remote id regs. If your drone has remote id built in, it wont fly if it doesnt get a signal, even if you are in your living room. Its ridiculous. This is not about airspace safety folks. Any fools who thought $5 was making our airspace safer, was really a fool to pay them money...