WALTHER P22...A TIME TESTED OPTION.
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- In this video, we will be be discussing the WALTHER P22. We will compare this model to other types of carry guns in similar category to help establish considerations for comfort while carrying. The features will be detailed and we will discuss how these different features might have value to the owner. A brief overview of range performance will be presented along with a summary of the carry experience with regards to holster selection and coverall comfort. In closing. we will present overall impressions of the firearm as a carry option. Thanks for watching!
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Bought this, took straight to range with cci mini mag- put 500 rounds through it ran perfectly! I had 2 fail to fire pulled the trigger again and fired and ejected on 2nd trigger pull just fine.
Love the feel of this one!
Yes , P22 is my carry & CCI is my Ammo . It's Like A Sore Pecker , You Just Can't Beat It !
That's funny right there -some tow truck I think
Walther improved this pistol a lot over the years. My buddy has a gen 1 that still works great but it does have more cycling issues. I got the current generation last time it was on Black Friday sale. I have way over 1000 rounds through it and didn’t have any major issues. To me this is a range toy as the ammo is much more affordable and therefore I can afford shooting more. I don’t really understand why anyone would consider a rimfire pistol for concealed carry. But that’s none of my business.
Just gotta love that P-22 for sure!!! Thanks
Great video.
Are the recoil springs for the old and new Walther P22 interchangeable?
I have many 22 pistols some revolvers some semi auto.,i like this gun because it shoots well ,comfortable
,accurate and reliable.
You can easily chang barrel length and with a simple screw on barrel adapter ,you can make it into a great hoast for a suppressor.
I have a P22Q. One of the newer models and absolutely love it. I use the Federal Punch for self defense and have at least 1000 Ed’s and not had a single problem. It does seem to prefer the CCI max and stingers. I have no complaints.
I have one of these. I have had an issue with it where the double action stopped working (the hammer would fail to drop the whole way down, though single action remained functional). I sent it back to Walther and they fixed it under warranty, so that is good, though I have read that this is actually a fairly common problem with the P22.
I can't really say it is my favorite, though. Part of it is that I'm not really a fan of DA/SA autos (the P22 is the only DA/SA I own). Part of it is that, like many 22's with fixed barrels, reassembly is a pain. And it really prefers hotter .22LR ammo, which is not a problem per se, but it does mean having to keep Mini-Mags around as range ammo for it. I also don't own a lot of .22LR's, mostly because I find them underwhelming to shoot.
However, the P22 is a fantastic option for certain use cases. My wife tends to be recoil sensitive, but she can shoot the P22 like a laser. I also like taking it out with new shooters as the light weight, light single action, and negligible recoil make it very easy to train on (and looks very similar to a "traditional" handgun like one of my Glocks as opposed to a target-style pistol like my Buckmark. Feeling included like this is an important part of the fun).
Personally I wouldn't dry fire a 22 rimfire without having the hammer block safety on. That way it won't damage the firing pin or the barrel. Just a tip.
Dry firing in the hammer block after a while weakened the hammer spring and it broke on me. I got two as a replacement.
Have an early P22 that broke the main spring only shooting a very few times. It was sent back to the factory for repair. Getting it back, it worked flawlessly. I then ordered a captured recoil spring and since installing, it shoots and ejects anything I put through it including the cheapest bulk. I typically only use the more expensive ammo such as Stingers, but so nice to be able to shoot anything made. I have yet (knock on wood) had a misfire or failure to eject through a thousand rounds since the repair…feeling pretty lucky!
Yep, we also went with the captured spring. We have 2 CA versions and are perfectly satisfied.
what recoil spring did you get?
Objective review for sure. I also like the Ruger LCR better for when you have to recover from a faulty round or when you might need to carry a few rounds of rat shot. But, I do like the accuracy of the P22. I had an earlier P22 model that was a little challenging to field strip for cleaning but it appears they’ve solved that issue.
Nice review!
Thanks sir!
Good review. My P-22 is 3 years old and the CA version. The OEM spring has been replaced on day one. The first 200 rounds shot through this weapon had no issues (Federal). For concealed carry, you need to have the first 10 rounds cycle flawlessly. You also need to test for EDC by going to the range and shooting 10 rounds from a cold gun (as it would be in a shooting situation). After the first 10 rounds the weapon is warm and all rounds after the 1st ten are not as critical as the first 10. I have already tried switching out the extractor and put the OEM extractor back in. So at more than 500 rounds here is my take. AGUILA 38 grain cycles perfectly in the first 10 , the second magazine and even the third reload. Federal "Punch" tried in a cold weapon did not cycle in the 1st ten rounds, FTE on the second magazine. CCI Mini Mags appeared to work similar to the Aguila. CCI Stingers appeared acceptable in the same test. Winchester range box was simply awful. The same Federal (range blue box) does not cycle as the Aguila or CCI. This non scientific test leads me to shoot Aguila 38 grain at the range and load the EDC magazines the same. Shoot at the range what you will carry.
I also have the CA version and had issues with failure to eject so I replaced the guide rod spring, polish the feed ramp, hammer and chamber lightly. Now it runs perfectly.
Where does this idea come from that a good carry gun has to cycle 10 rounds perfectly? The average self-defense shooting as reported by the NRA involves two rounds being fired.
I would NEVER carry this or rely on a rimfire for personal protection... it’s imprudent and downright stupid.
@@djcfromptIf your gun can not cycle more then 10 rounds reliably get another one.
I have the 2008 model P22 - with the original 2 pc guide rod and spring. lots of FTF, FTE malfunctions with cci 40gr. changed to the captured guide rod and spring, and upgraded ejector and I still have the same FTF issue with almost any .22 ammo I use. I love the gun, hate the fact that I can not rely on using it without repeated malfunctions, I'm thinking the back of the slide is dragging on the hammer obstructing the recoil, but I'm afraid to grind down the internal top of the hammer to attempt to remedy the issue. I do not use this as my ccw, I have a G43 for that. I just wish this was more reliable to enjoy at the range.
I ground and polished that "ridge" off the hammer face and haven't had an issue since, if you decide to try it be sure to not take too much off or else the hammer won't contact the firing pin.
If you pish up on the mag then press the release and hold the mag will slide right out no problem
i got a walther p22q aswell. first thing i did was paint all my sights (except the flat guy) orange. it seems to like minimags and federal 22
My P22 shoots flawlessly with Mini-Mags 40 gr. and Aguila Super Extra 40 gr. If I were to carry these are what I would load it with. Agree that an LCR in 22 LR would practically eliminate malfunction problems, just pull the trigger again. Hard to find in my neck of the woods but will scoop one up when the opportunity arrives.
Not really. After about 5 mags in it has issues - as does all .22 pistols. But that’s just the nature of the dirty .22 on SA pistols.
LCR is a revolver @@zebwalton979
I have two 1st generation P-22s. A short barrel and long barrel. The long barrel is still new in the box. The short barrel I put many rounds through it. Remington Golden .22s work well. CCI stingers too. The slide on the short barrel was defective from day one. The slide grooves became chewed a bit and the safety became so loose the safety would drop while firing. Sent it back to S&W and got it back later with no repairs and a note that read "Normal wear". I was upset naturally but instead of complaining and sending it back again I decided not buy from Walther again. In fact I haven't purchased firearms for some years now because I have enough. I want to purchase a new slide for the P-22 but first I want to find out if new slides fit old P-22s. I've asked around but nobody so far has an answer.
Those Remmington Golden Bullets are filthy IME - shot one box at the range a month or two ago and came away with my hands looking like I'd been grubbing around in my car's engine.
the golden bullet is the only ammo my Walther will eat
I have three of them and like them. Good dependable gun to just drop in your pocket and go out on the property or stick in the car.
For self defense??? Absolutely not.
Wow! First video I've seen that even consider P22 as a carry gun....
I just went to the range to try the Walther P22CA I got a few weeks ago. I cleaned and oiled it before going. I was kind of wary of the issues with it not loading or not liking certain cartridges that are high velocity or below 1300fps. I was wrong... initially...It fired like a dream using Remington Thunderbolt 40g (green box - $42.99/500rnds) with 1255fps. Then I tried the Federal 40g (blue box - $74.99/800rnds) with 1200fps, and it also took that and no misfires or jamming. Next was the CCI Minimag 40g ($54/500rnds) with 1235fps and every round also went through with no problem.
But after firing 180 rounds switching through those 3 cartridges, the problem started but it was just with the Federal. The gun started not going into battery and I had several FTLs and misfires with that particular cartridge. I actually thought I had a squib a few times. The CCI and the Thunderbolt still shot great, still had no issues. I dont know if it was because the gun started getting dirty, but why just the Federal and why after firing great initially, I wondered.
I just bought an Aguila 38g ($41.99/500rnds) with 1280fps cartridges that I will try next. In the meantime, I guess I will feed the Federal to my Savage 64 and Citadel Trakr.
How'd it go with the Aguila? I'm thinking it was the super extra?
@@jackandroid8489 i changed the spring to a captured one and filed the hammer a bit. It still ftes but not as often. The Aguila was fine. It is more the gun actually.
It’s very nice for what it’s is, but one has to approach this as a plinking gun for fun with the caveat that you’ll be practicing many failure exercises.
It’s quite possibly the most comfortable.22 pistol ever, and it - like all .22 pistols - will have issues after about 5 magazines in. It’s just the nature of the dirty .22.
I had one of these a while ago but it was reliable i now have the 502 instead
So far, no issues at all with CCI Mini Mag & Stingers.
Thanks. Just got my P 22 CA. Beautiful gun, fits my hand perfectly. Will test fire it next week. So far I love it.
My P22 is absolute trash. Has been sent back to Walther 4 or 5 times now - keeps spitting hot metal debris in my face and cracking slides at the extractor. Will not consistently cycle either federal round I have (game shok and American eagle I believe), will have every kind of issue there is, FTF, FTE, stovepipe, etc. Cycles Remington golden bullet much better but still some of the same issues and the slide keeps cracking.
Love mine however, it’s very picky on ammo. Feed it cheap shit it won’t run at all. Cci stingers run in it flawlessly
Mine only takes Remington golden bullets
Wow, you don't hesitate dry shooting !
Correct. Having handled thousands of firearms, I’ve never broken a single one by doing it.
@@TheConcealedCarryChannel does this one still allow the hammer to drop with the safety engaged? (Just dropping the hammer down and hitting the firing pin block part of the safety)
This seems like the safest way to dry fire if it can.
You can dry fire it with safety on. Safety off I wouldn’t recommend dry fire.
I wish it wasn't made if magnesium or whatever it is. I've beat my slide up su much the slide hold open is worn away. I'm also getting some cracking in the inside of the slide near the hammer
Awesome piece though
I would never carry a .22 anything But I train My 13 yr to
For CC I’d rather have a wheel gun if it has to be a .22….I own the P22. I would never rely upon it as a carry gun. My SW 22A is more reliable.
I have one and it doesn't extract most of the time even after replacing the extractor with a new one
Which ammo?
@@rodvan-zeller6360 every ammo I tried
I don't think it's an extractor problem...If you polish the feed ramp, lower part of chamber edge and ridge on hammer with a dremel it's made mine flawless...Aguilar 40gr cprn high velocity and Velocitors work without any hang up literally thousands of rounds without a problem minus maybe a light primer strike
If you want a gun that does nothing but jam no matter how you clean it this gun is for you.
Junk I bought one for $80 in a jams every other around with all types of ammo I can't get ride of it lol
Mine has never been reliable, no matter what ammo I use. Probably at least one FTF from every magazine. Wish I could trust it.
You have to use higher powered ammo. Mini mags and stingers will do it. I recommend doing the mods in the “p22 Bible” google it. It’s easy to do and it will make it much better. I hated mine until I ran a couple hundred through it and did the mods.
I’ve put 250 rounds through mine and have had more than 20 failures.
I’m a huge Walther fan but this weapon is junk and should be recalled
I have an early p22. The gun is actually terrible. Worst $200 I’ve ever spent, seriously. The slide is made out of junk and split at the breach after like 1,000 rounds. I kept the two halves of the slide as a reminder to never buy something just because it’s tacti-cool again. Overly complicated to take apart, no decocker, all around disappointment
Mine broke only on the ejection port side , sent it back and it came back with a newer style slide , hopefully better than the original.
Watch the mouth breathing and mouth smacking noises. Otherwise very informative.
Was shooting mine with the Super-X 40gr 1450fps. I got a case head separation the slide started back before the bullet was out the barrel and blew my thumb nail off. The wall of the case came out with a multitool
The later ones are better. But you are right. The early ones wouldn't even run and broke when they did. I have 2500 rounds on a 2023 model and it's been great
@@adventurfly879good I just bought one and will be going to the range in a few days. I heard it takes a 1000 rounds to break in. I'm taking 2000 rounds to the range.
This is the worst gun I have ever owned. Jams almost every single round. I would rather see the Jennings 22’s come back. They worked better
Worst gun I ever bought.
Try the Taurus compact.
Works fine
This isn’t a defensive weapon. It’s a murder tool
•Ubiquitous
•Hide in your hand
•Cheap & disposable
You are comparing apples to oranges. The p22 needs a recall! Period. All the bells and whistles but no reliability in my case. Unreliable out of the box and after some upgrades, new mags, all sorts of ammo, TH-cam videos. It barely feeds some ammo some of the time.
But you are not a woman, so know you won't carry it, so think 🤔 about a lady who needs something to have if on a budget
I Have a PQ22 i Havent Shot that often.. last trip to range the Slide Cracked. On Both Sides.! I Still Need to Contact Walther. As it is over a year old