With how Windows is putting more focus on ARM support, I think the tab series could make for a great dual boot tablet in the future. There's already a project to allow some older SD chips (I think 855?) to run Windows and they work really well so it's looking feasible!
A shame samsung probably just wouldn't give this even if it could the functionality. They can't even give the a-series DEX to run second screen or something.
It's been a couple months now since I've bought this tablet and it is great. th-cam.com/users/postUgkxAxiUS5CgVC3j8FwNOHt037zhsquGQpXv The tablet is responsive and runs well. There were a few times that the tablet did an awkward thing where it would detect pen on at all times and wouldn't register finger press, but it is usually fixed by closing and opening either the screen or app. This is highly likely due to my excessive use for drawing which caused this and wasn't really very big. As I mostly enjoy using the tablet for drawing (and some light gaming), I would comment from that aspect that there is definitely more accurate pressure and drawing using a PC device and drawing tablet, however i find the moveablity of the tablet more enjoyable to draw on. Like how you can physically rotate and move a piece of paper around or even draw casually on your bed.All in all, as a tablet it is good, and as a drawing device can be good depending on what you want from a drawing device. It is definitely good enough if you just want to use it to take notes. For typing though I can't comment on the keyboard as I did not get the keyboard.
The way Dave puts the tablet down at 02:47 really makes me warm and cozy inside. Not like other tech-tubers slamming and sliding these delicate devices around, scratching them up without even caring.
I agree but the problem is yah Samsung makes pretty devise but the software is not good I’ve dealt with Samsung tablets and a few month after buying they update it and it got so slow even scrolling through the Home Screen glitched also there screen glass is soft like it scratched so easily the same day
This thing was love at first sight for me, but my Tab S6 is still in perfect condition so I have no reason to upgrade. My one worry was that the Ultra would see low demand, which could lead to it being a one-time thing. I don't think I have to worry about that now. I'll upgrade once the Tab S9 Ultra comes around, or maybe even the S10 Ultra.
My S5e also is in good condition but that 200€ prime + an extra 100€ prime for returning a S5e or S6 is really tempting I wonder if they'll do it for the future S9, I guess not
I too have a S6!! Will probably wait upto s9, as it will get its last Android update in May!! And if Samsung gives another update in form of Android 13( finger 🤞) then S10!!
I have the tab s3, I belive it's pretty good because it's not larger than a laptop and has bezels you can hold on to. The keyboard case is also pretty good.
I love how every time you handle the devices with care. Man, you really don't take things for granted, like other reviewers. You have my utmost respect.
I went to Best Buy to check out their demo models of the Tab S8 series and was pleasantly surprised that the Ultra doesn't look "too big" in person. Out of context in TH-cam videos it looks enormous, but live it just looks like a moderately bigger tablet. It's thin - really thin - which helps a lot. I'm glad I switched my pre-order from the S8+ to the Ultra, even though I have to wait longer to get it. Don't be put off by the size of the Ultra until you see it in person.
GOSH im so relieved!!! I'm a design student and I have the option to choose either S8+ or Ultra for free. Initially i nearly chose S8+ due to better size and portability. But i finally chose the ULTRA (to avoid any regrets) but still concered of its sheer size. After seeing this comment, felt that I have made the right decision.
This is a very helpful comment. Every review emphasizes on the size (rightfully so) which makes it sound like it would be uncomfortable or difficult to use. I'm glad this is not the case
For anyone who wants to use their tablet as a second display I always recommend Super Display, you need to pay for it but its only a few dollars. I would say its way better than Samsung Second Display since you can connect to it over the USB-C connection AND you can use the digitizer on your PC. tldr: Get/use Super Display over Second Display.
The great thing for me on my tab s7+ is that I can Parsec to my tower and do all actual work remotely, while maintaining the amazing battery life of an ARM OS. A shame that no one talks about this, since this isnt possible on iOS.
That's great for you, however, if you are in the range of your tower, why not just plug your tablet in. Anyway, generally speaking, IOS devices are super-efficient and don't need that exactly. Just look at the difference between the 120hz and 60hz display on the Tab S8 compared to the iPad Pro.
I never used parsec so I don't know what exactly I'm missing if anything, but I've been using the build in remote desktop for windows 10 pro on my tower to connect from my ipad and it's been working great. I usually do this for solidworks, and even all the touch screen functions work as intended. I ditched my actual windows laptop because the speed benefit from straight up better hardware was totally worth the nearly unnoticeable lag.
@@ze_or Thats awesome! Then we basically had the same Idea! The only thing that the built-in Remote Desktop cant do but parsec can, is more grafically advanced stuff. Parsec lets the PC render the screen, while Remote Desktop lets the client render the screen. Some of the work I do sadly demands grafics, that Remote Desktop cant render. Otherwise I would have actually prefered the iPad.
@@sebastianorye2702 I can connect to my Tower over parsec from anywhere :) Its great that the iPad is so powerful and efficient, but for my work I need to use programs that arent built for iOS.
5:55 If you really want a paperlike experience this might be the one to go for. Samsung offer a "new" cover case where the screen cover is slightly see through and accepts input from the s pen (I believe it's called the noteview cover). The added surface makes the feel a lot closer to pencil and paper.
@Water Jogger Uhhh. This is a new type of case for the line up soooo I'm not sure how you've "had it ". The product hasn't even been shipped to general consumers yet...
I use most of my wacom penabled drawing devices with Matte screen protectors, they protect the screen, keep it clean and they feel like paper :). I'm a professional artist and use wacom Cintiq 24 pt daily (that one with no screen protector because it has etched glass), I've also use/used, most of the Note and Tab S lineup. I've Also used the Ipad with the apple pencil, but despite it being good, It doesn't work with my ecosystem of windows/android(also charging the pen drove me crazy). Also in all s-pens and wacom pens, you can change the tip to other materials, I use felt nib pens for extra friction (because I'm very light handed when drawing, or else I experience pain at night after working)
"Is it still a tablet?" It depends in what you want to define as "tablet". If "tablet" is defined by flat touchscreen device with no physical keyboard, then, keep in mind that (medicinal & supplemental) tablets come in various sizes, some large, some small. Years ago, there was a touchscreen tablet much larger than this (2x bigger). Also, keep in mind, Wacom, Huion, and other pen tablets offer as much as 24" in size.
@9:00 "Who needs a tablet of that size?" As a professional musician myself, I find the larger screens much easier to read sheet music on from a distance of around 3-4 feet. I bought a Samsung Galaxy Tab S7 FE just for the screen size and this newer S8 Ultra seems like a great option for musicians looking for a tablet that can easily replace paper sheet music.
I watched this video on my Samsung Tab S7+. Though this new tablet intrigues me, I already feel that the S7+ is too a bit unwealdy; I don't think I could handle the extra 2" of screen. There also didn't seem to be a huge upgrade besides the chipset between the S7 and the S8 So I'll stick with my S7+ for this generation. All the Samsung tablets are absolutely excellent though. If you personally are considering buying one, you'll love it. Edit: I realize my mistake in my choice of words regarding the extra screen size, but I'm leaving it in because I think the responses are hilarious.
I have the Samsung Tab S7 and I love it. It's the perfect size for me because I mostly chose it for reading books on but I do enjoy using Samsung Notes and that they included the S-Pen with their tablets unlike others.
Cool review Dave as always and always covers all positive and negative aspects in detail. However, more information S-pen, features and how it compares to Apple pencil would have been great.
Also would like to see more on DEX , device compatibility, multi-tasking and Microsoft office application support, you know, the things that actually make you productive every day.
I think there is no reason to give tablets very narrow bezel. The way we hold Mobiles and Tablets are totally different. Tablets have way more screen real estate than mobile. With appropriate amount of bezel, It's easy to hold the Tab as well as there will be no notch.
@@lifefullofbugandexceptions2033 you dont get it, for a tablet having smaller bezzels will result it in accidental touches if you hold your tablet, that is why they kept the thick bezzels for s8 and s8+.
I really enjoy just the personal conversation feel of your videos, Dave, and top notch quality. I watched the review video of the S22 Ultra by the Verge and it reminded me how much better your videos are.
I use the tab s7 and its absolutely fantastic. I use it everyday for hours as I follow lectures and study on it afterwards. Its fantastic for notes and for viewing all my anatomy apps. I would even say that its a bit overkill spec wise for my requirements, but i've justified it in the sense of future proofing. If the s8 is better, then it must be a really incredible tablet
For the second screen bit. There is an app called super display that is AWESOME! It is REALLY amazing. 120hz and full pressure sensitivity and low latency.
I definitely agree about the popularity of this huge tablet! I've been hoping Samsung would finally make a behemoth device with solid specs, and LumaFusion is exactly what we need to transition over to Android! Solid perspective!
I'm guessing most reviewers who complain about the brightness (or lack thereof) of the Ultra don't realize that OLED screens are never as bright as LCD are, and more likely to get burn in with brighter screens anyway. I am completely in the Apple ecosystem -- tons of devices -- but I bought the Ultra because it fits a need that the iPad 12.9" (I have an older gen 12.9") doesn't satisfy because of the bigger screen and wider aspect ratio on the Ultra. Perfect for videos and comic viewing, which is primarily what I bought it for. Don't love the notch and not a fan of the Samsung Android version but very happy with the screen, the build quality, and the battery life. Wish I could get Second Screen to work with my work Windows 10 PC at home but I haven't had success. Nonetheless, this is a great tablet for certain uses and I would get it if you want it for media consumption, including comics, which is a much better experience than a 12.9" iPad Pro.
The Samsung S8 models present an interesting proposition for Android phone users and PC users to maintain a continuous ecosystem between phone and tablet. As a mechanical engineer, PC enthusiast, and Apple iPhone, iPad Pro, and Apple Watch owner and user, I prefer the power and availability of professional applications on the iPad Pro. Since I also own an aerial drone photography and videography company, the ability to edit high-resolution photos and 4K video on either my desktop work stations, laptop Dell XPS 15, or my 2021 12.9" 512 GB iPad Pro is quite appealing. I do however agree that the S8 Ultra provides a better value proposition with the included keyboard and S-Pen in comparison to the iPad Pro lineup. I hope the Samsung S8 series of tablets are successful, more competition in the high-end/Professional tablet space would ultimately be beneficial to the consumer in the end. I Dave's inclusion of the launch video of the Mercedes-AMG F1 W13 2022 challenger.
The only reason why I was interested in this device was to see how it handles HDR playback. HDR looks awesome on the S Ultra phones, and I wanted the same experience on a bigger screen. None of the other reviews focused on that part, which I found weird considering the aspect ratio was great for movies. Then you drop this video and I got my answer within a couple of minutes into it. Great content, and excellent insight into what might be relevant to a potential buyer (as usual).
Me too, seems that the iPad Pro is still the best option in that regard and the cheaper one. High end phones, the new MacBook pro, and of course tvs are considerably more expensive and very few get to that amazing image quality
@@josefranciscoramirez4438 I don’t like the iPad pro either. After using SAMOLED screens for so many years, I can’t stand anything other than pitch black. Even my TV and PC’s monitor isn’t good enough. The only thing that looks good other than LG’s OLED TVs, are some of Samsung’s QLED panels, and I can’t afford either of those. Still watching everything on my S21 Ultra.
@@MrSidneycarton I feel you in that regard, I also have a Samsung phone and it pains me to watch content on any other device i have, but I think you are confused in this one, the iPad gets to achieve pure black with its technology, is very similar to the qleds (I also like Samsung's qleds, I prefer real HDR before nicer blacks but overall dimmer images in TVs) but way more effective because of its higher count of minileds. I recommend you to see Max tech comparison with a tab s7 plus, or even better, to test one in an apple store, I assure you that this are some of the finest displays you can get right now, the only downside for me is maybe the aspect ratio, but I think display size compensates a bit for that
I have a Samsung Galaxy View 2 tablet which has a 17.3" screen. I absolutely love it. It cracks me up to hear people trip about the 14.6" Ultra being massive. I should be receiving my Ultra on Tuesday. Can't wait to get it.
I have a Samsung Tab S7 myself. It's a truly amazing piece of tech. It's definitely a triumph of modern engineering and technology. The Samsung-brand case/keyboard makes it even more amazing and useful. And with a Snapdragon 865+, it's soooo fast. I can only imagine how good this one is.
@@LarsRyeJeppesen I'm with you, the trade in offer is pretty good, but honestly I have yet to have need that my s7+ even remotely struggled at. Only issue is the spen doesn't attach well. Unless it take hdmi input I think the ultra is too niche, at least for now.
This was a top review! Exactly what I'm expecting from a review - it's not very long, it's pretty detailed, it has all the necessary information without spending time on things no one cares about. Really great! Perfect, I'd say.
*For your information: S-pens do not need charging for basic functions (hovering, drawing).* They need it only for bluetooth remote functions (ie. shutter release, flicks). Don't even dare to laugh at me again on this, dave.
If I had the cash, I'd get this to replace all my paper notebooks for college. My laptop already has a touch display and I do have a wacom table to go along with it, but THIS looks like a game changer for anyone who really wants just one device to bring to work/school/college. I bet it's a productivity beast.
I replaced all my notebooks with the S7. The pen feels like a real pen and is very comfortable to hold. Also, Samsung notes is amazing. You can take a screenshot anywhere and paste it into your notes (+ a bunch of other functionalities), and the file managing system is excellent. I'd love a slightly larger screen though for when I work on multiple documents at once, but it works just great. Overall, I'd really recommend this tablet.
As about the brightness, it can go up to 600 nits if you turn on auto- brightness (without it is indeed limited to 400 nits), however with HDR content the measured peak brightness is 800 nits (you need to activate the bright video mode in the advanced featues for this) which is insane as most of the modern OLED TV-s can't reach this level. So yeah, screen- ways it is a real monster. The rest of the review is great ;)
Got pretty excited when I heard about this tablet today. Already have a 12.9 M1 iPad, but the screen size really intrigued me to use this to watch movies in bed or just play some emulators. But an Oled screen with just 400 nits absolutely kills this thing for me. I really love the iPad for the insane HDR capabilities when watching movies. Hopefully Samsung will upgrade their display for the next generation. They might win me as a customer.
AMOLED screens inherently have lower peak brightness, the brightest Oled Tvs hit 500-600 peak nits. It's really a trade off of going with Oled, I think it's worth it for the better screen. Although, I normally don't use tablets in an outdoor environment so it's not an issue for me anyway.
@@volatilememory9338 Correct. I have the current 12.9 inch iPad Pro and while the ipad has an insane peak brightness with HDR content (much better than my OLED TV) it also introduces noticeable blooming on black backgrounds (white text on black screen for example). Would rather have a bright MiniLED panel than a 400 nits OLED one though.
Bought the S7+ 8 months ago, serving me really well. Might upgrade to a s9? But this device looks so competitive in the tablet space. What a piece of machinery
Same, I have the S7+ and am using it several hours daily for university. It's awseome! Onnly thing that frustrates me is the lacking Android apps optimisation. Wish I had more screen real estate to take notes so it will be nice to see if the S8 Ultra have a good deal in 1-2 years if I want to switch!
Imagine buying a samsung tablet LMFAOOOO, clowns Im jk, the tab s7+ is a beast of a tablet, have one to go along with my iphone 13 PM for college and both are excellent devices for what I got them for.
I am sold on picking one of these up, looks awesome! I do a lot of video calling as I work remote from Mexico, and this would be good when I am away from my desk. That screen (other than the brightnss) is killer!
Tried this puppy out for digital drawing and general use and LOVED it!!! Ultimately though I returned it n got the ipad pro 12.9 bc the drawing experience/apple pencil in procreate can't quite be matched. If it wasn't for that, I would've picked this device over the ipad hands down!
Love your reviews Dave you shoot your videos in such a way where people actually see what the tablet looks like in one's hands unlike a lot of reviewers who give you very close shots and you don't really get a great sense of the size of the product and how it actually looks in one's hands
I'm upgrading from my Tab S7+ ... the only complaint I had about it was that I wanted a larger screen, and now I'll have it. I can't wait for my Ultra.
@@Valreea Well the S7+ is just right. Like a 13" MacBook. I love the Screen Ratio for Video Consumption and Streaming Games via GeForce Now. And when turned on the side it's awesome for reading, browsing or using for Spreadsheets in D&D and Warhammer 40K. A bigger screen would definitely be better for the first part and also for drawing, but for the 2nd part, reading and portability or just to use as a handheld would suffer a lot imo.
All things considered, Samsung has started taking tablets very seriously. Just a few more things to iron out and these would be top tier. Gotta say the speakers are bangin, almost didn't realize when you switched to the iPad
@@RishalRaj ouhhh if the S pen is your deciding factor then it's pretty black and white, you don't have any other options other than the S22 Ultra. So what are you waiting for? Go get your flagship phone!!
@@oreopuppies6411 It is a deciding factor, not a compulsory factor. Which is why I'm eagerly waiting for the full review, to look at some of my other deciding factors, and take the complete decision
@@goochipoochie I'm waiting for the final review from Dave to confirm that last line, "... greatest phone in existence..." and then I will be all in, hopefully. 😅
My biggest issue with android tablets is that the Onenote app is still identical to the mobile phone version, whereas the ipad has a much more developed version
Good android tablets are very underrated. I know iPad won the markets are game, but I use a MacBook and iPhone, yet really enjoy using my "old" Galaxy Tab S6. I honestly think Android/OneUI is a better Tablet OS than iPad OS.
Dave showed a snippet of the W13 launch event! You are my favorite tech reviewer for life now bro 🤣. Pre-ordered my Tab S8U on launch day. I knew it would be a media consumption beast. Now that they know the demand is there, I predict the S9U will go full 4K and bump up the nits. Samsung is aggressive with trade in discounts, so I will probably just upgrade next year if that happens.
I've had the tab S4 since it launched in 2018, and it's still an awesome tablet. I'm going to wait for S9 ultra for now because I really don't like the notch on it. If I want to make a videocall to my family, it's easier with my phone since I can set it up everywhere. I hope the screen is even better next year, I love the bigger screen. Edit: I bought it and I love it.
@@cs-vk9lj I don’t get how people say that their android devices from 2ish years ago are slow, like I’m genuinely confused. Before I switched my s8 to a s22, my s8 was still very fast and can even run Genshin on 30fps, albeit it was a device from 2017, but still it was a good 3-4 hours of gameplay
Thanks for your perfect detail review of the product. You helped me made my decision to buy a smaller version. You mentioned pros n cons in detail which other ppl didn't mentioned in their review. You got one new subscriber today. Keep up the good work. Wish you all the best.
Good video mate. Pity the chipset is underclocked , also the not overly bright display is a bit of a downer too coming from Samsung, I was almost going to change my plans from getting the IPad Pro , I’ll stick with the iPad I think . Owning galaxy notes I do like Sammy’s S pen technology, but the dull display and the knobbled chipset are deal breakers for me . And I am in total agreement that more bezel to make handling the device and general use better is fact , Also this penchant for manufacturers to continually strive to make devices so ridiculously utterly thin that it compromises the hardware and use of the device utterly dumbfounds me . And you would have to assume being so bloody thin , that if the worst happens and your device gets sat on even by a toddler or some one leans on it by accident , you are probably going to be up for either a new device or some expensive repairs. If someone offered me an almost identical tablet that was 3 or 4 mm thicker with bigger bezels and had less compromises already mentioned even if this was heavier I’d be all over it. Who knows , if it was a tad thicker perhaps they could have added more cooling to use the chip more to its potential, maybe even added a headphone jack as well and a brighter display .
Couldn’t agree more. The performance and the display is a bummer. A 14 inch tab with LTPO tech and super high brightness would have been a dream come through for media consumption and gaming but they skipped that. I quite don’t get the target demographic either, i saw them advertising luma fusion on their keynote but I don’t even wanna imagine how badly it’ll run
Well... Android Tablet is an oversized Android Phone. Changing from Galaxy Tab to iPad for fun because why not. I can say iPad is offering more experience as tablet than Galaxy Tab. But since Galaxy Tab is an oversized phone, I can easily install phone apps.
Basically all of the latest iPads have with 400-550 nits support. The only exception being the 12.9 2021 model. 400 is plenty bright enough for most people and indoor use. Also this is a new first gen screen, I think we should praise Samsung instead for actually putting a high refresh rate OLED panel in a tablet of this size (while most manufactures are still using stone age LCDs in their latest laptops/tablets), they seem to be the only manufacture actually trying to use new technology in their devices.
The screen brightness killed it for me. Most phones, even xiaomi devices are 700nits indoors and auto brightness 1000nits in the sunlight... 400 nit oled panel is simply to good enough for that price. Secondly, if luma fusion and other editing and software apps have to run with heavy multi-tasking, will the under clocked chipset be capable? It should be still?
I work an oilfield job where I'm living in different hotels most weeks of the year. Got mine S8 Ultra on pre-order. It's gunna be such an upgrade to my phone screen for watching TH-cam and Netflix in the evenings!
Large thin tablet is why I like the surface book so much. This is cheaper, but less powerful, but android is a better touch experience. Great to have options on large, thin tablets!
I wanted to wait for the S8 gen, but my old school pen tablet ended up dying on me around Thanksgiving and I had work to do. Ended up grabbing an S7+ with the $100 Black Friday discount and I'm glad there's not much to miss out on, especially with the price increase.
The brightness (or lack of) on the Samsun Tab 'S' range shocked me at how dismally dim they were when viewing them in my local store. I had to check the brightness setting for each and every one of them (S7, S8, S8+, S8 Ultra, etc) because I couldn't believe the lack of brightness.
I'm sorry, but the size of this tablet pushes me away completely. I actually bought an iPad Mini last year because I wanted a small, portable tablet that is also comfortable to use in bed. Why does everything need to be BIGGER?? I thought tablets were meant to be easy to transport and use in your hands, not essentially set up as a laptop. If I want a big, but portable screen, I'll buy a laptop that's so much more powerful. I can see the use case if you want this device to be everything (desktop, laptop, tablet), but if you can afford separate devices for your primary PC and a tablet, I think it's best to keep them separate
OK I dun know why so many people are hating that notch but that notch is looking so much beautiful on the massive screen. I'm literally liking this tab over other s8 models for having that pretty notch with best front cameras ideal for video calling.
Lmao. I actually use a 5w charger for my 13 Pro Max and find it perfectly adequate. Especially since I only charge at night. Now i’m really curious how long a depleted Tab Ultra would take to charge using my 5w charger. You guys think it would finish in 8 hours over night?
theoretically it would take 11.2 hours to charge from 0%, at a constant 1A. phones/tablets dont usually charge at a constant rate tho, but idk how that changes with slow chargers. then again usually u wont really be depleting the battery completely, so theres that.
Wireless second screen feature is really great for game streamers i guess, so they can hook it up as a second screen and use it view chat screen whilst gaming. And the size is great for drawing. I have tab s6+, i wish i had a budget to upgrade to this one. It'd be great.
I do think streamers prefer to get a pc monitor for 1/10 the price with vesa mount for chats and music. Modern gpus can output signal to up to 4 displays simultaneously
@@nemesistech pro streamers might, but there are people like me, have little audience but like to stream and buying this product as second screen is not the main reason for them but it's a bonus. Btw, i wish these new tablets include hdmi input port for photographers and videographers. I'd be nice to able to use them as external screens for cameras.
Great review. Could you tell me if there is an option in the display settings to hide the notch? The lack of image stabilization and brightness in outdoor settings are downsides that I am really glad you pointed out. I think I am better off holding onto the Tab S7 Plus.
It's great due to the screen size, but I hope for Tab Fold and the aspect ratio for Tablet is just similar as PC monitor. It would be useful when the Web Apps migrate to the WASM, so it would work efficiently for Arm proc. Curious M1 or M850 for the better and efficient processing. For Android, I hope they would adapt Ubuntu VM or Hybrid OS, then I can run Blender 3.0 on it.
Have one for 4 days now .. it's amazing, it's super, it's the best Android tablet ever made. I don't get the things about Android not being good for tablets. It works fine. I have no idea what it could do better.
I will buy the S8+ and not the Ultra because the pixel density drops after each size upgrade, and from the Plus to the Ultra is the most significant drop. The battery on the plus is 2000 mAh bigger than the normal one, but the Ultra is only 1200mAh bigger than the Plus one. The bezels on Ultra are very thin, perfect for static work, but very difficult to handle when holding it in the hands. I think the notch in the middle looks not good when having the tablet vertical, so yeah, I am going with the plus variant and not the Ultra.
i saw a review that the m1 ipad wasn t that pratical either like trying to create a pdf, edit an image file etc, but its months old did they fix it now(question mark)
How will it limit its versatility? This thing can literally take have 5 or more split screens at the same time as opposed to Apple which cannot and you want to talk about being versatile?
The brightness is an extremely frustrating scenario when Samsung is a display manufacturer and the S22 Ultra is hitting 1750 nits. I don't want a new device that isn't breaking 1000 nits much less for a device at this price. I really like working outside these days.
Who uses their tablet at 100% brightness? I never go above 10% brightness. Always use it between 0%-10%. Too bright makes me sick pretty quick. Plus 100% brightness is bad for AMOLED screens. A 14.6" tablet is not something you will take out in the sun every day. My 11" Tab S7 stays always at home. I can't use it at 20%+ brigthness bc the screen is way too bright.
I'm waiting for the 5G version to get back into stock. Then I'm planning on trading up. I've been a Note user since the beginning and I rarely use paper at all. The extra space on the screen will be really useful for me, for writing, spreadsheets, presentations, etc. I'm not a gamer so I won't have to worry about this points the presenter made.
Holy crap those speakers! I was not expecting that much of a difference. The iPad sounds better than my Tab S6 and the Tab S7. But it sounds like Samsung have used the extra space to improve the speakers. That's huge! The iPad speakers were already impressive
Thank you for your videos! I enjoy watching them. I think both Apple and Qualcomm are obsessed with raw power rather than optimizations and efficiency. It's like they are the Intel they once criticized. Wait in a few years if they still trying to make OP chips, then we should expect a mini fan soon to cool it down... I think we have enough processing power for mobiles, what we need is software optimizations to better work with that power.
Did u say Apple is more obsessed with raw power than optimization and efficiency? The opposite is rather true. Apple is the king of optimization and efficiency in the chip industry!
@@wisdomyaw03 For sure it is! for light work and simple use. Now tell that to my new iPad Pro 12.9 it overheats when while playing certain games, overheats with certain heavy app use after just 5 minutes. Same thing with iPhone, so I think its too much processing power and too much heat for small device.
It looks like a great tablet. I'm surprised they didn't use that technology where they can hide the front facing camera showing like on the fold 3. But then again that probably would've sacrifice the camera quality. Also I see you listen to Dillon Francis his new album is really good 😊👍
Mine arrives tomorrow, can't wait!! I got the 512GB variant. I have the Tab S6 for games and convenience. I plan on using this S8 Ultra for my photography and video editing.
Did you try to turn on Adaptive brightness? It will make a big difference when you are outdoor or in a bright environment. In a bright environment, it will make the screen extra bright.
I'm not going to lie to you. Dave, you mentioned function. However, I believe that as we get bigger and bigger with these tablets, they get less and less competitive, since the bigger they get, the more painful it is to compare a product like this to a 13-14 inch Notebook, a category that wipes up the floor with this tablet. Just take a look at what Asus has created with the G14, or with that 13-inch tablet monster. Who is gonna buy something like this if these Notebooks are there as well? Tablet makes sense between 8" and 11" in my opinion. Anything above that starts to lose what made it good in the first place.
As a college STEM student, I use my s7 fe for 8 hours a day. I use all 12.4". Really helpful for textbooks and notes at the same time. I might appreciate the extra space on the s8 ultra, but I'll probably upgrade to the s9+ since it might be too much space, and the s7 fe serves my needs as of now (even though there is some lag as I'm working due to 4gb ram). However, I think art students would get the most use out of this. The color palette on your phone feature + the extra space + free spen that feels like a pencil on paper is pretty good. Those students could really get the most use out of this. And with luma fusion support incoming, i think that would make it even better for college creatives. Though there is a case to be made for something like the surface pro 8 if you are not in the samsung ecosystem. Pricing wise I think mostly people already in the Samsung ecosystem will get the best deals. I got my s7 fe for $400 off of ebay new. Samsung is offering $500 for it with a trade in. I think that's how they get people to pay the price of the ultra.
I've got the Tab s7+ and its pretty big and heavy. Put a case on it and it gets really heavy. I can't imagine this one and using it like a tablet. I wish they would have made it a little bit more square because it is too narrow. If it was more like an A4 paper that would have been great.
Samsung always makes fun of apple for their choices and then goes on doing the same thing, used to mock them before iphone 6, then with headphone jack, then with the notch, then charger and now this
The funnier thing is, they mocked apple for it, and they kept the jack in and ONLY removed it after they brought out their own wireless earbuds. Remember guys, companies don’t care about you. Let them hear you with your wallet, buy only what you need.
@@LarsRyeJeppesen His argument is that Google seemingly doesn't care about tablets anymore since every iteration of Android has been caring about it less and less and app developers aren't focusing on Android tablets anymore. It's really not that difficult to understand what he's trying to say
@@LarsRyeJeppesen Is there anything wrong with staying with the same car company forever though? As long as it’s reliable and affordable (Toyota), why would I ever consider a Mercedes or Ford?
There’s FL Studio Mobile that’s pretty good. But better than GarageBand… not too sure. Not to mention how well iOS handles virtually plugging in audio apps into each other. Samsung’s GarageBand type app for Galaxy devices was decent just not as good as GarageBand but they killed it a few years ago for some reason
Bruh its not androids fault, App developers are just putting more emphasis on iOS thats it. Without developers the iPad would be terrible for music production. Don't complain to Samsung complain to the companies that make the App.
It's not just ios. MacOS seems a step ahead than Windows too. It's mostly because of developers and an already apple consumer base but also windows audio driver handling is awful
@@itsasadbunny It was actually an Android limitation for quite a while that it couldn't handle the realtime audio processing as well, so it just didn't happen. Making an Android equivalent bordered too difficult to be worth it and not possible. Heck I remember one app I used that actually offloaded the audio processing to the cloud because that was a better solution than trying to do it realtime on Android. That issue pretty much cemented iOS as the mobile audio production king to this day even though that issue was fixed years ago. Now the market for it just isn't really there because of Android not being capable of it for so many years that iOS was able to dominate the mobile audio product market. From a dev perspective, people who want audio production on a phone/tablet still see iOS as the only option due to Android's audio shortcomings for years, no good reason to go after such a small market. Yes complain to Samsung, they made the only true GarageBand equivalent on Android, locked it to their phones, and killed it after like two years! I know because I loved using it on my Note 8 and still remember the day I factory reset my phone and learned the app was no longer available....it had so much potential.
My moms tablet just came the other day , I loved it so much that I had to order me one . I would say before buying it to please get a case , this tablet is so slippery . The display is great I can’t wait to play some games on it
With how Windows is putting more focus on ARM support, I think the tab series could make for a great dual boot tablet in the future. There's already a project to allow some older SD chips (I think 855?) to run Windows and they work really well so it's looking feasible!
A shame samsung probably just wouldn't give this even if it could the functionality. They can't even give the a-series DEX to run second screen or something.
really well is not accurate at all. and the overhead from x86 to arm is just bad.
I have a tablet but its different
Pretty sure someone is gonna port Windows to it soon
@@Daniel-dj7fh A series literally is not powerful enough to do anything aside consuming content
It's been a couple months now since I've bought this tablet and it is great. th-cam.com/users/postUgkxAxiUS5CgVC3j8FwNOHt037zhsquGQpXv The tablet is responsive and runs well. There were a few times that the tablet did an awkward thing where it would detect pen on at all times and wouldn't register finger press, but it is usually fixed by closing and opening either the screen or app. This is highly likely due to my excessive use for drawing which caused this and wasn't really very big. As I mostly enjoy using the tablet for drawing (and some light gaming), I would comment from that aspect that there is definitely more accurate pressure and drawing using a PC device and drawing tablet, however i find the moveablity of the tablet more enjoyable to draw on. Like how you can physically rotate and move a piece of paper around or even draw casually on your bed.All in all, as a tablet it is good, and as a drawing device can be good depending on what you want from a drawing device. It is definitely good enough if you just want to use it to take notes. For typing though I can't comment on the keyboard as I did not get the keyboard.
The way Dave puts the tablet down at 02:47 really makes me warm and cozy inside.
Not like other tech-tubers slamming and sliding these delicate devices around, scratching them up without even caring.
lol
Linus would like to know your loaction
@@dhofinfadlurahman967 haha
this tab is tougher than usuall, with a reinforced back as well as gorilla glass 5
These devices definitely arent fragile
One thing worth noting is that the entire Tab S8 lineup has a microSDXC slot so you don't necessarily have to shell out for extra storage.
As an iPad Pro user I'm really happy there is a solid competitor on the market. :)
This tablet looks quite appealing
I agree but the problem is yah Samsung makes pretty devise but the software is not good I’ve dealt with Samsung tablets and a few month after buying they update it and it got so slow even scrolling through the Home Screen glitched also there screen glass is soft like it scratched so easily the same day
It looks appealing because it looks like an iPad now
@@Sanirosan ipad is appealing is design because of the S8(the phone)
@@Oztinfrog you definitely are comparing a 100$ tablet with an ipad (at least 300$)
Is the iPad Pro better in terms of battery and gaming?
This thing was love at first sight for me, but my Tab S6 is still in perfect condition so I have no reason to upgrade. My one worry was that the Ultra would see low demand, which could lead to it being a one-time thing. I don't think I have to worry about that now. I'll upgrade once the Tab S9 Ultra comes around, or maybe even the S10 Ultra.
My S5e also is in good condition but that 200€ prime + an extra 100€ prime for returning a S5e or S6 is really tempting
I wonder if they'll do it for the future S9, I guess not
I too have a S6!! Will probably wait upto s9, as it will get its last Android update in May!! And if Samsung gives another update in form of Android 13( finger 🤞) then S10!!
I have the tab s3, I belive it's pretty good because it's not larger than a laptop and has bezels you can hold on to. The keyboard case is also pretty good.
I have the Tab S4 and I'll probably upgrade to this
0:20 Dave literally says that the Tab S8 Ultra was so popular that Samsung had to stop taking preorders for jt
I love how every time you handle the devices with care. Man, you really don't take things for granted, like other reviewers. You have my utmost respect.
Linus troll
Well when it's not yours, you handle with care.
@@BrawndoQC tell that to linus
Unlike fucking Linus who handles things like a toddler
2010 linus was better than present linus, change my mind
I was actually amazed at the front camera video quality, even the microphone sounds ridiculously clear!
I went to Best Buy to check out their demo models of the Tab S8 series and was pleasantly surprised that the Ultra doesn't look "too big" in person. Out of context in TH-cam videos it looks enormous, but live it just looks like a moderately bigger tablet. It's thin - really thin - which helps a lot. I'm glad I switched my pre-order from the S8+ to the Ultra, even though I have to wait longer to get it. Don't be put off by the size of the Ultra until you see it in person.
I feel like it's for people who want a greatly speced detachable chromebook with an active stylus
Gonna hold out for the 5g version when it get to the states
GOSH im so relieved!!! I'm a design student and I have the option to choose either S8+ or Ultra for free. Initially i nearly chose S8+ due to better size and portability. But i finally chose the ULTRA (to avoid any regrets) but still concered of its sheer size.
After seeing this comment, felt that I have made the right decision.
This is a very helpful comment. Every review emphasizes on the size (rightfully so) which makes it sound like it would be uncomfortable or difficult to use. I'm glad this is not the case
For anyone who wants to use their tablet as a second display I always recommend Super Display, you need to pay for it but its only a few dollars. I would say its way better than Samsung Second Display since you can connect to it over the USB-C connection AND you can use the digitizer on your PC.
tldr: Get/use Super Display over Second Display.
its great, but its shame that the content is laggy little bit even if the mouse and input is set to low latency and high refresh rate
The great thing for me on my tab s7+ is that I can Parsec to my tower and do all actual work remotely, while maintaining the amazing battery life of an ARM OS. A shame that no one talks about this, since this isnt possible on iOS.
That's great for you, however, if you are in the range of your tower, why not just plug your tablet in. Anyway, generally speaking, IOS devices are super-efficient and don't need that exactly. Just look at the difference between the 120hz and 60hz display on the Tab S8 compared to the iPad Pro.
I never used parsec so I don't know what exactly I'm missing if anything, but I've been using the build in remote desktop for windows 10 pro on my tower to connect from my ipad and it's been working great.
I usually do this for solidworks, and even all the touch screen functions work as intended. I ditched my actual windows laptop because the speed benefit from straight up better hardware was totally worth the nearly unnoticeable lag.
@@ze_or Thats awesome! Then we basically had the same Idea! The only thing that the built-in Remote Desktop cant do but parsec can, is more grafically advanced stuff. Parsec lets the PC render the screen, while Remote Desktop lets the client render the screen. Some of the work I do sadly demands grafics, that Remote Desktop cant render. Otherwise I would have actually prefered the iPad.
@@sebastianorye2702 I can connect to my Tower over parsec from anywhere :) Its great that the iPad is so powerful and efficient, but for my work I need to use programs that arent built for iOS.
@@lukaseisele9512 Yep, and in that case an iPad isn't for you. When you say anywhere, do you mean anywhere? Also, isn't latency a problem?
5:55 If you really want a paperlike experience this might be the one to go for. Samsung offer a "new" cover case where the screen cover is slightly see through and accepts input from the s pen (I believe it's called the noteview cover). The added surface makes the feel a lot closer to pencil and paper.
@Water Jogger Uhhh. This is a new type of case for the line up soooo I'm not sure how you've "had it ". The product hasn't even been shipped to general consumers yet...
@@booker1232 looking at his past comments he's an apple fanboy... lol.
@Water Jogger cap
@@hansmoran1219 i wanted to check for myself. he's quite literally "the" apple fanboy lol
I use most of my wacom penabled drawing devices with Matte screen protectors, they protect the screen, keep it clean and they feel like paper :). I'm a professional artist and use wacom Cintiq 24 pt daily (that one with no screen protector because it has etched glass), I've also use/used, most of the Note and Tab S lineup. I've Also used the Ipad with the apple pencil, but despite it being good, It doesn't work with my ecosystem of windows/android(also charging the pen drove me crazy). Also in all s-pens and wacom pens, you can change the tip to other materials, I use felt nib pens for extra friction (because I'm very light handed when drawing, or else I experience pain at night after working)
The colors look so vivid
Color grading on this vid is insane
@@blzt3206 ikr
[while watching it on your cheap display]
@@tophan5146 High DCI-P3 coverage…most devices are probably well equipped with these nowadays 2022. :P
@@tophan5146 hey man I'm watching it on my note 20 ultra so I'm chilling😉
Woof! That thing is huge. It brings up a very interesting philosophical question. If a tablet is too large to hold, is it still a tablet?
Can’t agree more
Well, Mac Address... If it's not an iPad... is it a computer? What's a computer?
"Is it still a tablet?" It depends in what you want to define as "tablet". If "tablet" is defined by flat touchscreen device with no physical keyboard, then, keep in mind that (medicinal & supplemental) tablets come in various sizes, some large, some small. Years ago, there was a touchscreen tablet much larger than this (2x bigger). Also, keep in mind, Wacom, Huion, and other pen tablets offer as much as 24" in size.
@@DPXEntertainment what about an All in One?
You don6 ‘hold it” you put in. Case and stand it somewhere
@9:00 "Who needs a tablet of that size?"
As a professional musician myself, I find the larger screens much easier to read sheet music on from a distance of around 3-4 feet. I bought a Samsung Galaxy Tab S7 FE just for the screen size and this newer S8 Ultra seems like a great option for musicians looking for a tablet that can easily replace paper sheet music.
I watched this video on my Samsung Tab S7+. Though this new tablet intrigues me, I already feel that the S7+ is too a bit unwealdy; I don't think I could handle the extra 2" of screen. There also didn't seem to be a huge upgrade besides the chipset between the S7 and the S8 So I'll stick with my S7+ for this generation. All the Samsung tablets are absolutely excellent though. If you personally are considering buying one, you'll love it.
Edit: I realize my mistake in my choice of words regarding the extra screen size, but I'm leaving it in because I think the responses are hilarious.
I have the Samsung Tab S7 and I love it. It's the perfect size for me because I mostly chose it for reading books on but I do enjoy using Samsung Notes and that they included the S-Pen with their tablets unlike others.
..." I don't think I could handle the extra 2" "
@@shimuzeisusu thats what she said
Got mine recently. Am really happy
@@stevenalexander4721 I have the Tab S7 but it literally feel heavier than the Tabs8 Ultra
Cool review Dave as always and always covers all positive and negative aspects in detail. However, more information S-pen, features and how it compares to Apple pencil would have been great.
5:39
I think you would want a Perspective from someone who Focuses on art rather than Dave2D or more Technical Reviewers.
Feature wise it's pretty similar, Writing experience is alr compared at 5:39
Also would like to see more on DEX , device compatibility, multi-tasking and Microsoft office application support, you know, the things that actually make you productive every day.
I think there is no reason to give tablets very narrow bezel. The way we hold Mobiles and Tablets are totally different. Tablets have way more screen real estate than mobile. With appropriate amount of bezel, It's easy to hold the Tab as well as there will be no notch.
Big bezels are ugly
@@grizzlyelchapo4219 but its not practical
Smaller bezel means larger screen while having the same form factor. All devices can benefit from that.
@@lifefullofbugandexceptions2033 you dont get it, for a tablet having smaller bezzels will result it in accidental touches if you hold your tablet, that is why they kept the thick bezzels for s8 and s8+.
@@mohamadalkhammach2472 buy a laptop that's more practical
I really enjoy just the personal conversation feel of your videos, Dave, and top notch quality. I watched the review video of the S22 Ultra by the Verge and it reminded me how much better your videos are.
I use the tab s7 and its absolutely fantastic. I use it everyday for hours as I follow lectures and study on it afterwards. Its fantastic for notes and for viewing all my anatomy apps. I would even say that its a bit overkill spec wise for my requirements, but i've justified it in the sense of future proofing. If the s8 is better, then it must be a really incredible tablet
What do you use for notes? Productivity and such
@@scottmucha7 simply the stock/default Samsung notes app. it's good for all my uses
Can the s7 tab replace laptop? I'm student who will use it for Microsoft word, presentation, zoom calls, notes, research or light school works
For the second screen bit. There is an app called super display that is AWESOME! It is REALLY amazing. 120hz and full pressure sensitivity and low latency.
yeah, i tried it, is unbelievable good even on wifi
3:20 always brings a smile to see a TH-camr is an F1 fan too. 😊
Seen that also
Yes!
ULTRAAAA
i think i'm gonna buy one this year
Personally not a fan off tablets
But samsung makes its products soo flashyy recently😅🥶🤩
I definitely agree about the popularity of this huge tablet! I've been hoping Samsung would finally make a behemoth device with solid specs, and LumaFusion is exactly what we need to transition over to Android! Solid perspective!
I'm guessing most reviewers who complain about the brightness (or lack thereof) of the Ultra don't realize that OLED screens are never as bright as LCD are, and more likely to get burn in with brighter screens anyway. I am completely in the Apple ecosystem -- tons of devices -- but I bought the Ultra because it fits a need that the iPad 12.9" (I have an older gen 12.9") doesn't satisfy because of the bigger screen and wider aspect ratio on the Ultra. Perfect for videos and comic viewing, which is primarily what I bought it for. Don't love the notch and not a fan of the Samsung Android version but very happy with the screen, the build quality, and the battery life. Wish I could get Second Screen to work with my work Windows 10 PC at home but I haven't had success. Nonetheless, this is a great tablet for certain uses and I would get it if you want it for media consumption, including comics, which is a much better experience than a 12.9" iPad Pro.
The Samsung S8 models present an interesting proposition for Android phone users and PC users to maintain a continuous ecosystem between phone and tablet. As a mechanical engineer, PC enthusiast, and Apple iPhone, iPad Pro, and Apple Watch owner and user, I prefer the power and availability of professional applications on the iPad Pro. Since I also own an aerial drone photography and videography company, the ability to edit high-resolution photos and 4K video on either my desktop work stations, laptop Dell XPS 15, or my 2021 12.9" 512 GB iPad Pro is quite appealing. I do however agree that the S8 Ultra provides a better value proposition with the included keyboard and S-Pen in comparison to the iPad Pro lineup. I hope the Samsung S8 series of tablets are successful, more competition in the high-end/Professional tablet space would ultimately be beneficial to the consumer in the end. I Dave's inclusion of the launch video of the Mercedes-AMG F1 W13 2022 challenger.
The only reason why I was interested in this device was to see how it handles HDR playback. HDR looks awesome on the S Ultra phones, and I wanted the same experience on a bigger screen. None of the other reviews focused on that part, which I found weird considering the aspect ratio was great for movies. Then you drop this video and I got my answer within a couple of minutes into it. Great content, and excellent insight into what might be relevant to a potential buyer (as usual).
Me too, seems that the iPad Pro is still the best option in that regard and the cheaper one. High end phones, the new MacBook pro, and of course tvs are considerably more expensive and very few get to that amazing image quality
@@josefranciscoramirez4438 I don’t like the iPad pro either. After using SAMOLED screens for so many years, I can’t stand anything other than pitch black. Even my TV and PC’s monitor isn’t good enough. The only thing that looks good other than LG’s OLED TVs, are some of Samsung’s QLED panels, and I can’t afford either of those. Still watching everything on my S21 Ultra.
@@MrSidneycarton I feel you in that regard, I also have a Samsung phone and it pains me to watch content on any other device i have, but I think you are confused in this one, the iPad gets to achieve pure black with its technology, is very similar to the qleds (I also like Samsung's qleds, I prefer real HDR before nicer blacks but overall dimmer images in TVs) but way more effective because of its higher count of minileds. I recommend you to see Max tech comparison with a tab s7 plus, or even better, to test one in an apple store, I assure you that this are some of the finest displays you can get right now, the only downside for me is maybe the aspect ratio, but I think display size compensates a bit for that
@@josefranciscoramirez4438 no iPad does not get true blacks. OLED > LCD. No competition
@@soberanisfam1323 you don't really understand anything about technology do you?
I have a Samsung Galaxy View 2 tablet which has a 17.3" screen. I absolutely love it. It cracks me up to hear people trip about the 14.6" Ultra being massive. I should be receiving my Ultra on Tuesday. Can't wait to get it.
My View 1 battery is starting to fail... I wish I could find an affordable View 2 or something similar :(
What's the use case for it? Just curious
@@Chipsaru youtube and parsec
is that a 720p or 1080p screen?
I have a Samsung Tab S7 myself. It's a truly amazing piece of tech. It's definitely a triumph of modern engineering and technology.
The Samsung-brand case/keyboard makes it even more amazing and useful. And with a Snapdragon 865+, it's soooo fast.
I can only imagine how good this one is.
Yeah love my s7plus
@@LarsRyeJeppesen I'm with you, the trade in offer is pretty good, but honestly I have yet to have need that my s7+ even remotely struggled at. Only issue is the spen doesn't attach well. Unless it take hdmi input I think the ultra is too niche, at least for now.
@@gottahavitvt I would've traded it for the s8+ but the trade in value is so low in my country, like 500 dollars cheaper than what I bought it for
6:49 The fluidity of how he said that was fantastic!
This was a top review!
Exactly what I'm expecting from a review - it's not very long, it's pretty detailed, it has all the necessary information without spending time on things no one cares about. Really great! Perfect, I'd say.
*For your information: S-pens do not need charging for basic functions (hovering, drawing).* They need it only for bluetooth remote functions (ie. shutter release, flicks). Don't even dare to laugh at me again on this, dave.
If I had the cash, I'd get this to replace all my paper notebooks for college. My laptop already has a touch display and I do have a wacom table to go along with it, but THIS looks like a game changer for anyone who really wants just one device to bring to work/school/college. I bet it's a productivity beast.
My 12in s7 fe does my digital college notes very well
Will be better off getting a surface Pro 8 at that point.
Yeah. iPad Pros are good options, too.
@@noetrix3312 or even just an iPad Air 4 which gets Pencil 2 support. But they're all expensive options for a student!
I replaced all my notebooks with the S7. The pen feels like a real pen and is very comfortable to hold. Also, Samsung notes is amazing. You can take a screenshot anywhere and paste it into your notes (+ a bunch of other functionalities), and the file managing system is excellent. I'd love a slightly larger screen though for when I work on multiple documents at once, but it works just great.
Overall, I'd really recommend this tablet.
As about the brightness, it can go up to 600 nits if you turn on auto- brightness (without it is indeed limited to 400 nits), however with HDR content the measured peak brightness is 800 nits (you need to activate the bright video mode in the advanced featues for this) which is insane as most of the modern OLED TV-s can't reach this level. So yeah, screen- ways it is a real monster. The rest of the review is great ;)
Got pretty excited when I heard about this tablet today. Already have a 12.9 M1 iPad, but the screen size really intrigued me to use this to watch movies in bed or just play some emulators. But an Oled screen with just 400 nits absolutely kills this thing for me. I really love the iPad for the insane HDR capabilities when watching movies. Hopefully Samsung will upgrade their display for the next generation. They might win me as a customer.
AMOLED screens inherently have lower peak brightness, the brightest Oled Tvs hit 500-600 peak nits. It's really a trade off of going with Oled, I think it's worth it for the better screen. Although, I normally don't use tablets in an outdoor environment so it's not an issue for me anyway.
@@tariqtariq5429 Correct, but 400 is still pretty low for a high-end tablet. I have an LG OLED TV and that's pretty bright with HDR aswell.
@zero tolerance policy iPads are not AMOLED. Even the best one is Mini-LED.
@@volatilememory9338 Correct. I have the current 12.9 inch iPad Pro and while the ipad has an insane peak brightness with HDR content (much better than my OLED TV) it also introduces noticeable blooming on black backgrounds (white text on black screen for example). Would rather have a bright MiniLED panel than a 400 nits OLED one though.
A 400 nit oled will have better looking HDR than a higher nit count LCD. It really isn't that big of a difference
Bought the S7+ 8 months ago, serving me really well. Might upgrade to a s9? But this device looks so competitive in the tablet space. What a piece of machinery
Same, I have the S7+ and am using it several hours daily for university. It's awseome! Onnly thing that frustrates me is the lacking Android apps optimisation. Wish I had more screen real estate to take notes so it will be nice to see if the S8 Ultra have a good deal in 1-2 years if I want to switch!
Imagine buying a samsung tablet LMFAOOOO, clowns
Im jk, the tab s7+ is a beast of a tablet, have one to go along with my iphone 13 PM for college and both are excellent devices for what I got them for.
@JEYMS I have the s7+ as well. What apps do you wish were better optimized?
@Gerard Colominas Cabrera could be better, I get 8h mit 60hz
But great is to charge with the 45w charger
True, I'm probably looking at the Tab S10 since I feel the hardware is great and will server me well
9:08 that's what she said
0:05
This could be second display for my work laptop, and a great media consumption device for after hours.. nice!
I am sold on picking one of these up, looks awesome! I do a lot of video calling as I work remote from Mexico, and this would be good when I am away from my desk. That screen (other than the brightnss) is killer!
Tried this puppy out for digital drawing and general use and LOVED it!!! Ultimately though I returned it n got the ipad pro 12.9 bc the drawing experience/apple pencil in procreate can't quite be matched. If it wasn't for that, I would've picked this device over the ipad hands down!
Love your reviews Dave you shoot your videos in such a way where people actually see what the tablet looks like in one's hands unlike a lot of reviewers who give you very close shots and you don't really get a great sense of the size of the product and how it actually looks in one's hands
Watching this makes me pretty comfortable keeping my Tab S7+.
I'm with u
I'm upgrading from my Tab S7+ ... the only complaint I had about it was that I wanted a larger screen, and now I'll have it. I can't wait for my Ultra.
@@Valreea Well the S7+ is just right. Like a 13" MacBook.
I love the Screen Ratio for Video Consumption and Streaming Games via GeForce Now.
And when turned on the side it's awesome for reading, browsing or using for Spreadsheets in D&D and Warhammer 40K.
A bigger screen would definitely be better for the first part and also for drawing, but for the 2nd part, reading and portability or just to use as a handheld would suffer a lot imo.
Sometimes I just watch your videos because they're really good, even when I am not interested on the product.
You and everyone else here. No one is actually interested in a Samsung tablet lmao :D
All things considered, Samsung has started taking tablets very seriously. Just a few more things to iron out and these would be top tier.
Gotta say the speakers are bangin, almost didn't realize when you switched to the iPad
I'm intrigued by the screen size, but I am more than happy with my S7+, as well. They did just about everything right, with the S7+, IMO.
Huh? How about an oled display?
Yes.
Waiting eagerly for the S22 Ultra review. The final review is the only thing really holding me back from the pre-order
If you don’t need the S pen, the S21 Ultra has pretty Much the same feature and you might save a couple hundred
@@oreopuppies6411 Do need the S-Pen. The S-Pen is currently a huge deciding factor for me even between the S22+ and Ultra
@@RishalRaj ouhhh if the S pen is your deciding factor then it's pretty black and white, you don't have any other options other than the S22 Ultra. So what are you waiting for? Go get your flagship phone!!
@@oreopuppies6411 It is a deciding factor, not a compulsory factor. Which is why I'm eagerly waiting for the full review, to look at some of my other deciding factors, and take the complete decision
@@goochipoochie I'm waiting for the final review from Dave to confirm that last line, "... greatest phone in existence..." and then I will be all in, hopefully. 😅
My biggest issue with android tablets is that the Onenote app is still identical to the mobile phone version, whereas the ipad has a much more developed version
So your issue is with Microsoft - company responsible for Onenote. Not android tablets.
@@Empty_Kestrel Sure but this is but one example of the larger issue of the Android tablet ecosystem just not getting the kind of love the iPad gets.
@@IrateGamingZealot maybe we should start talking this problem so Dave can make a video about it?
I could get over it but the tab needs a magic keyboard competitor. What they have now is trash
Yeah I've heard of that with others apps. One of the reasons the iPad is superior
Good android tablets are very underrated. I know iPad won the markets are game, but I use a MacBook and iPhone, yet really enjoy using my "old" Galaxy Tab S6. I honestly think Android/OneUI is a better Tablet OS than iPad OS.
Samsung tablets starting from the Tab S6 are underrated compared to the Ipad. I too have the Tab S6 and I definitely enjoy using it.
I definitely need to add this to my tech collection! Thanks for sharing your review!🙌🏽
Dave showed a snippet of the W13 launch event! You are my favorite tech reviewer for life now bro 🤣. Pre-ordered my Tab S8U on launch day. I knew it would be a media consumption beast. Now that they know the demand is there, I predict the S9U will go full 4K and bump up the nits. Samsung is aggressive with trade in discounts, so I will probably just upgrade next year if that happens.
That snippet of W13 sold me to watch this full review
I've had the tab S4 since it launched in 2018, and it's still an awesome tablet. I'm going to wait for S9 ultra for now because I really don't like the notch on it. If I want to make a videocall to my family, it's easier with my phone since I can set it up everywhere. I hope the screen is even better next year, I love the bigger screen.
Edit:
I bought it and I love it.
My tab s 8.4 is still working.. really slow right now. But I only need it for TH-cam.
@@cs-vk9lj I don’t get how people say that their android devices from 2ish years ago are slow, like I’m genuinely confused. Before I switched my s8 to a s22, my s8 was still very fast and can even run Genshin on 30fps, albeit it was a device from 2017, but still it was a good 3-4 hours of gameplay
Good to know, initial impressions from a review are nothing compared to real world experience.
Thanks for your perfect detail review of the product. You helped me made my decision to buy a smaller version. You mentioned pros n cons in detail which other ppl didn't mentioned in their review. You got one new subscriber today. Keep up the good work. Wish you all the best.
Good video mate.
Pity the chipset is underclocked , also the not overly bright display is a bit of a downer too coming from Samsung, I was almost going to change my plans from getting the IPad Pro , I’ll stick with the iPad I think .
Owning galaxy notes I do like Sammy’s S pen technology, but the dull display and the knobbled chipset are deal breakers for me .
And I am in total agreement that more bezel to make handling the device and general use better is fact ,
Also this penchant for manufacturers to continually strive to make devices so ridiculously utterly thin that it compromises the hardware and use of the device utterly dumbfounds me .
And you would have to assume being so bloody thin , that if the worst happens and your device gets sat on even by a toddler or some one leans on it by accident , you are probably going to be up for either a new device or some expensive repairs.
If someone offered me an almost identical tablet that was 3 or 4 mm thicker with bigger bezels and had less compromises already mentioned even if this was heavier I’d be all over it.
Who knows , if it was a tad thicker perhaps they could have added more cooling to use the chip more to its potential, maybe even added a headphone jack as well and a brighter display .
Couldn’t agree more. The performance and the display is a bummer. A 14 inch tab with LTPO tech and super high brightness would have been a dream come through for media consumption and gaming but they skipped that. I quite don’t get the target demographic either, i saw them advertising luma fusion on their keynote but I don’t even wanna imagine how badly it’ll run
Well... Android Tablet is an oversized Android Phone.
Changing from Galaxy Tab to iPad for fun because why not.
I can say iPad is offering more experience as tablet than Galaxy Tab.
But since Galaxy Tab is an oversized phone, I can easily install phone apps.
Basically all of the latest iPads have with 400-550 nits support. The only exception being the 12.9 2021 model. 400 is plenty bright enough for most people and indoor use. Also this is a new first gen screen, I think we should praise Samsung instead for actually putting a high refresh rate OLED panel in a tablet of this size (while most manufactures are still using stone age LCDs in their latest laptops/tablets), they seem to be the only manufacture actually trying to use new technology in their devices.
The screen brightness killed it for me. Most phones, even xiaomi devices are 700nits indoors and auto brightness 1000nits in the sunlight... 400 nit oled panel is simply to good enough for that price. Secondly, if luma fusion and other editing and software apps have to run with heavy multi-tasking, will the under clocked chipset be capable? It should be still?
why did you format this comment so weirdly bruh 😂
I work an oilfield job where I'm living in different hotels most weeks of the year. Got mine S8 Ultra on pre-order. It's gunna be such an upgrade to my phone screen for watching TH-cam and Netflix in the evenings!
I have waited to see this review on the Channel. Thanks Dave
If they made this thing a bit more holdable with slightly thicker bezels, there wouldn't even need to be a notch. Two birds with one stone.
Large thin tablet is why I like the surface book so much. This is cheaper, but less powerful, but android is a better touch experience. Great to have options on large, thin tablets!
Tablets have reached an interesting level of hardware. Now, please show us the software !
You are my last sensible, absolute zero nonsense TH-cam reviewer! Thank you for staying true to who you are!
I have one of these. Beautiful screen. Superb for digital art.
Feels good that Dave is an F1 fan and hopefully supports Merc!!
Their new car is wiiiiild
Nah not Merc!!!
@@Dave2D Hy Dave! IF YOU USE IT FOR SECONDARY WINDOWS 11 SCREEN, IF YOU put it in 16:10 aspest ratio, ow much usable space the noch hides?
I wanted to wait for the S8 gen, but my old school pen tablet ended up dying on me around Thanksgiving and I had work to do. Ended up grabbing an S7+ with the $100 Black Friday discount and I'm glad there's not much to miss out on, especially with the price increase.
Review aside, my respect went up when he played the Merc 2022 F1 car reveal
went to the comments to find this
The brightness (or lack of) on the Samsun Tab 'S' range shocked me at how dismally dim they were when viewing them in my local store. I had to check the brightness setting for each and every one of them (S7, S8, S8+, S8 Ultra, etc) because I couldn't believe the lack of brightness.
Thank you for the awesome review, Just bought the Tab S8 Ultra. Can't wait to have it!
I'm interested in seeing a comparison of the Ultra 8GB, 12GB, and 16GB
I wish Samsung could make these slightly thicker and put a bigger battery in all of them
And put windows on them instead of android.
That would make it heavier. So nope, they actually couldn't.
@@jeffthegamerboy3476 bruh
You can choose a smaller version instead of ultra.
@@jeffthegamerboy3476 just no , dex is good no need for windows
Wow this looks awesome. Would love playing games on this
You wouldn't love it if you actually tried to game on it. It's far too big to be comfortable.
@@rdmz135 you can connect a controller to it and have it propped up
Doesn’t have the performance for games. Genshin impact gets 120 FPS on iPad Pro.
@@liggerstuxin1 that's another tablet for gaming. I am not in the Apple eco system and thought having an Android tablet would be nice
@Tweed Penguin not only genshin gets 120FPS on iPad Pro tho
I'm sorry, but the size of this tablet pushes me away completely. I actually bought an iPad Mini last year because I wanted a small, portable tablet that is also comfortable to use in bed. Why does everything need to be BIGGER?? I thought tablets were meant to be easy to transport and use in your hands, not essentially set up as a laptop.
If I want a big, but portable screen, I'll buy a laptop that's so much more powerful. I can see the use case if you want this device to be everything (desktop, laptop, tablet), but if you can afford separate devices for your primary PC and a tablet, I think it's best to keep them separate
OK I dun know why so many people are hating that notch but that notch is looking so much beautiful on the massive screen. I'm literally liking this tab over other s8 models for having that pretty notch with best front cameras ideal for video calling.
Second screen works so well on my Tab S7+ that it's one of the major selling points of why I'm trading it in for the S8 Ultra.
Lmao. I actually use a 5w charger for my 13 Pro Max and find it perfectly adequate. Especially since I only charge at night. Now i’m really curious how long a depleted Tab Ultra would take to charge using my 5w charger. You guys think it would finish in 8 hours over night?
theoretically it would take 11.2 hours to charge from 0%, at a constant 1A. phones/tablets dont usually charge at a constant rate tho, but idk how that changes with slow chargers. then again usually u wont really be depleting the battery completely, so theres that.
Are you sure it’s 5 watts? The standard iPad charger is 12 watts
@@jasondads9509 he's not talking about the standard ipad charger, he's probably just using a slower third party charger on purpose
try using a 45W charger for your iproducts and see if it makes a difference there. it will with this tablet..
Great job on the videos, appreciate the concise and unbiased reviews! Keep em coming.
Still love my S7+....But getting itchy to buy this...I enjoy these better than a laptop...new S8+ ultra with 16Gb ram is a beast
Wireless second screen feature is really great for game streamers i guess, so they can hook it up as a second screen and use it view chat screen whilst gaming. And the size is great for drawing. I have tab s6+, i wish i had a budget to upgrade to this one. It'd be great.
I do think streamers prefer to get a pc monitor for 1/10 the price with vesa mount for chats and music. Modern gpus can output signal to up to 4 displays simultaneously
@@nemesistech pro streamers might, but there are people like me, have little audience but like to stream and buying this product as second screen is not the main reason for them but it's a bonus. Btw, i wish these new tablets include hdmi input port for photographers and videographers. I'd be nice to able to use them as external screens for cameras.
Great review. Could you tell me if there is an option in the display settings to hide the notch? The lack of image stabilization and brightness in outdoor settings are downsides that I am really glad you pointed out. I think I am better off holding onto the Tab S7 Plus.
You can hide the notch by making the whole top bar black and integrated into the notification bar. It will just looks like a normal sized bezel
sticking with my S7+. I'd rather have no camera than a notch. That alone broke the trade in potential for this.
got the 7+ also..love it...it really is a deal breaker...
the notch is only on the ultra, if you get the smaller s8 or s8 plus no notch
It's great due to the screen size, but I hope for Tab Fold and the aspect ratio for Tablet is just similar as PC monitor. It would be useful when the Web Apps migrate to the WASM, so it would work efficiently for Arm proc. Curious M1 or M850 for the better and efficient processing. For Android, I hope they would adapt Ubuntu VM or Hybrid OS, then I can run Blender 3.0 on it.
Its so nice that you included actual sound comparison instead of just telling how it sounds for you.
Have one for 4 days now .. it's amazing, it's super, it's the best Android tablet ever made. I don't get the things about Android not being good for tablets. It works fine. I have no idea what it could do better.
I will buy the S8+ and not the Ultra because the pixel density drops after each size upgrade, and from the Plus to the Ultra is the most significant drop. The battery on the plus is 2000 mAh bigger than the normal one, but the Ultra is only 1200mAh bigger than the Plus one. The bezels on Ultra are very thin, perfect for static work, but very difficult to handle when holding it in the hands. I think the notch in the middle looks not good when having the tablet vertical, so yeah, I am going with the plus variant and not the Ultra.
Plus model is definitely the move. I like old shows and games in 4:3 and that notch cutting into it would drive me insane.
@@anaguma90 I agree with you
Solid summary. The Ultra is a hard buy.
Love the concept of big tablet but it is too underpowered comparing to M1 chip, which sadly limits its versatility.
i saw a review that the m1 ipad wasn t that pratical either like trying to create a pdf, edit an image file etc, but its months old did they fix it now(question mark)
How will it limit its versatility? This thing can literally take have 5 or more split screens at the same time as opposed to Apple which cannot and you want to talk about being versatile?
@iTablet says who?? I use it and it's by far the best tablet experience...
Samsung tabs are just oversized Android phones
@@robustanybody5138 --says someone who has never used one of these tablets
@@asunavk69 I do all of those things with no issues on my ipad
The brightness is an extremely frustrating scenario when Samsung is a display manufacturer and the S22 Ultra is hitting 1750 nits. I don't want a new device that isn't breaking 1000 nits much less for a device at this price. I really like working outside these days.
Who uses their tablet at 100% brightness? I never go above 10% brightness. Always use it between 0%-10%. Too bright makes me sick pretty quick. Plus 100% brightness is bad for AMOLED screens. A 14.6" tablet is not something you will take out in the sun every day. My 11" Tab S7 stays always at home. I can't use it at 20%+ brigthness bc the screen is way too bright.
Again I think it has to do with the thickness or production limitations. The Galaxy books aren't bright as well
@@Seroxm13 people who use dark mode outside
If you want a tablet to be that bright the battery would only last 1 hour. The phone has a much bigger battery to screen ratio.
I agree 👍🏼
I'm waiting for the 5G version to get back into stock. Then I'm planning on trading up. I've been a Note user since the beginning and I rarely use paper at all. The extra space on the screen will be really useful for me, for writing, spreadsheets, presentations, etc. I'm not a gamer so I won't have to worry about this points the presenter made.
Holy crap those speakers! I was not expecting that much of a difference. The iPad sounds better than my Tab S6 and the Tab S7. But it sounds like Samsung have used the extra space to improve the speakers. That's huge! The iPad speakers were already impressive
Thank you for your videos! I enjoy watching them. I think both Apple and Qualcomm are obsessed with raw power rather than optimizations and efficiency. It's like they are the Intel they once criticized. Wait in a few years if they still trying to make OP chips, then we should expect a mini fan soon to cool it down... I think we have enough processing power for mobiles, what we need is software optimizations to better work with that power.
Did u say Apple is more obsessed with raw power than optimization and efficiency? The opposite is rather true. Apple is the king of optimization and efficiency in the chip industry!
@@wisdomyaw03 For sure it is! for light work and simple use. Now tell that to my new iPad Pro 12.9 it overheats when while playing certain games, overheats with certain heavy app use after just 5 minutes. Same thing with iPhone, so I think its too much processing power and too much heat for small device.
Apple obsessed with raw power?? Lmaooooo pls look at their TDP compared to literally anyone on the market
3:58 those tab s8 ultra speakers are definitely better than the iPad’s
It looks like a great tablet. I'm surprised they didn't use that technology where they can hide the front facing camera showing like on the fold 3. But then again that probably would've sacrifice the camera quality. Also I see you listen to Dillon Francis his new album is really good 😊👍
The most clean of Thumbnails page made me subscribe even before i watched a video !
Mine arrives tomorrow, can't wait!! I got the 512GB variant. I have the Tab S6 for games and convenience. I plan on using this S8 Ultra for my photography and video editing.
thanks for the review/showcase, was in the market for this and i definitely benefited from your words
Did you try to turn on Adaptive brightness? It will make a big difference when you are outdoor or in a bright environment. In a bright environment, it will make the screen extra bright.
yup tried it. I think they’ve capped the max brightness. Even with max studio lights blasting it
@@Dave2D watch this video for more detail. th-cam.com/video/2ClwTqm2s24/w-d-xo.html
I'm not going to lie to you. Dave, you mentioned function. However, I believe that as we get bigger and bigger with these tablets, they get less and less competitive, since the bigger they get, the more painful it is to compare a product like this to a 13-14 inch Notebook, a category that wipes up the floor with this tablet. Just take a look at what Asus has created with the G14, or with that 13-inch tablet monster. Who is gonna buy something like this if these Notebooks are there as well? Tablet makes sense between 8" and 11" in my opinion. Anything above that starts to lose what made it good in the first place.
As a college STEM student, I use my s7 fe for 8 hours a day. I use all 12.4". Really helpful for textbooks and notes at the same time. I might appreciate the extra space on the s8 ultra, but I'll probably upgrade to the s9+ since it might be too much space, and the s7 fe serves my needs as of now (even though there is some lag as I'm working due to 4gb ram).
However, I think art students would get the most use out of this. The color palette on your phone feature + the extra space + free spen that feels like a pencil on paper is pretty good. Those students could really get the most use out of this. And with luma fusion support incoming, i think that would make it even better for college creatives. Though there is a case to be made for something like the surface pro 8 if you are not in the samsung ecosystem.
Pricing wise I think mostly people already in the Samsung ecosystem will get the best deals. I got my s7 fe for $400 off of ebay new. Samsung is offering $500 for it with a trade in. I think that's how they get people to pay the price of the ultra.
I've got the Tab s7+ and its pretty big and heavy. Put a case on it and it gets really heavy. I can't imagine this one and using it like a tablet. I wish they would have made it a little bit more square because it is too narrow. If it was more like an A4 paper that would have been great.
I like how delved into features like second screen too.Oh also, could you please use gesture navigation next time,makes everything way fluider
Samsung always makes fun of apple for their choices and then goes on doing the same thing, used to mock them before iphone 6, then with headphone jack, then with the notch, then charger and now this
The funnier thing is, they mocked apple for it, and they kept the jack in and ONLY removed it after they brought out their own wireless earbuds. Remember guys, companies don’t care about you. Let them hear you with your wallet, buy only what you need.
Never going to leave my 12.9 iPad I guess. Android tablets still have too many shortcomings.
They also do some things better…I use the iPad 12.9 but purchased this also
You are stuck with same company forever? Lol imagine saying about a car
@@LarsRyeJeppesen His argument is that Google seemingly doesn't care about tablets anymore since every iteration of Android has been caring about it less and less and app developers aren't focusing on Android tablets anymore. It's really not that difficult to understand what he's trying to say
@@LarsRyeJeppesen Is there anything wrong with staying with the same car company forever though? As long as it’s reliable and affordable (Toyota), why would I ever consider a Mercedes or Ford?
@@Mercurows nothing, except you don't have a choice with Apple
For me, there's one thing Android never got up to speed with iOS and that's Music Production abilities.. am I wrong?
There’s FL Studio Mobile that’s pretty good.
But better than GarageBand… not too sure. Not to mention how well iOS handles virtually plugging in audio apps into each other.
Samsung’s GarageBand type app for Galaxy devices was decent just not as good as GarageBand but they killed it a few years ago for some reason
Bruh its not androids fault, App developers are just putting more emphasis on iOS thats it. Without developers the iPad would be terrible for music production. Don't complain to Samsung complain to the companies that make the App.
It's not just ios. MacOS seems a step ahead than Windows too. It's mostly because of developers and an already apple consumer base but also windows audio driver handling is awful
@@itsasadbunny It was actually an Android limitation for quite a while that it couldn't handle the realtime audio processing as well, so it just didn't happen. Making an Android equivalent bordered too difficult to be worth it and not possible. Heck I remember one app I used that actually offloaded the audio processing to the cloud because that was a better solution than trying to do it realtime on Android. That issue pretty much cemented iOS as the mobile audio production king to this day even though that issue was fixed years ago. Now the market for it just isn't really there because of Android not being capable of it for so many years that iOS was able to dominate the mobile audio product market. From a dev perspective, people who want audio production on a phone/tablet still see iOS as the only option due to Android's audio shortcomings for years, no good reason to go after such a small market.
Yes complain to Samsung, they made the only true GarageBand equivalent on Android, locked it to their phones, and killed it after like two years! I know because I loved using it on my Note 8 and still remember the day I factory reset my phone and learned the app was no longer available....it had so much potential.
Besides all the "Thats what she said" moments i cant stop thinking about, another amazing video from Mr Dave
My moms tablet just came the other day , I loved it so much that I had to order me one . I would say before buying it to please get a case , this tablet is so slippery . The display is great I can’t wait to play some games on it