The Stereotype of the Drunk Irishman

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  • Who exactly does this stereotype serve?

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  • @thelastjohnwayne
    @thelastjohnwayne 3 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    This is one of the finest films ever made.

    • @ronaldnewman7927
      @ronaldnewman7927 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      John Wayne won his only Oscar for true grit but that was really out of guilt for all the incredible parts he'd played and got not recognition for. This role, The Searchers, Angel and the bad man. And don't get me started on the war films... Yes, he'd was brash and opinionated and could be a putz, in other words, he was a man!

    • @ianmarsden1130
      @ianmarsden1130 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Agreed

  • @gavinhiggins231
    @gavinhiggins231 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    They broke the mould after this

  • @andrewtempleton6606
    @andrewtempleton6606 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "Is to steal a few hours from the night, my dear" 🎶
    Then the chuckle. Oh, was there ever a heartier chuckle in movie history? Beyond charming.

  • @Albert-hc3cq
    @Albert-hc3cq 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "Clothes on her back, or without them" lol

  • @damianconroy9276
    @damianconroy9276 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Barry Fitzgerald has convinced me he was drunk.....it's the great est piece of acting ever seen if this little man was sober😁👍👍

  • @martinhanley9524
    @martinhanley9524 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    That is not a drunken Irishman but a great actor: Barry Fitzgerald playing one

  • @darling11111
    @darling11111 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    The greatest film that I have ever watched. I am 55 and watched this with my Irish mum and dad. It reminds me of them so much. Thank you for sharing this on TH-cam x

    • @bernardgayton6302
      @bernardgayton6302 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      One word Fantastic, I could watch it over over, 💯👍⭐⭐⭐

    • @bmoran1795
      @bmoran1795 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I love this film no bad language no traffic no rudeness just a class film

  • @wespenn7243
    @wespenn7243 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    6:19 "When I drink whiskey, I drink whiskey, when I drink water I drink water."

  • @aldenhislop4960
    @aldenhislop4960 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Like an Irish 7 course meal A potato and a six pack

  • @mosheridan7016
    @mosheridan7016 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Not really just one of the best movies ever made

  • @jamespalmer9396
    @jamespalmer9396 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    "When I drink whisky I drink whisky and when I drink water I drink water "

  • @Zrinski11
    @Zrinski11 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I watched this movie many times just because of Barry Fitzgerald. John and Maureen were good but Barry made movie great. Masterful performance...

  • @mizofan
    @mizofan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Stereotypes laid on thick in the film, but it's still superb. I love Connemara.

    • @celtbell
      @celtbell 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its mayo

  • @fredjones7705
    @fredjones7705 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I'm studying hard at the Pub every day so I can be Irish as well.

  • @susanjoyce-yq2mg
    @susanjoyce-yq2mg ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Stereotype it may be, but some truth is definitely mixed in.

  • @wolfthequarrelsome504
    @wolfthequarrelsome504 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It's very funny. He obviously got an "advance" on his fee from "Thorn Shaunton".

  • @Setebos
    @Setebos 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    As a song I once heard informed: "Sir! I'll have ye know that an Irishman is never drunk. S'lang as he can hold onto a blade of grass to keep from fallin' off the Earth."

    • @us-Bahn
      @us-Bahn 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dean Martin: “You’re not drunk if you can lie on the floor without holding on.”

  • @highstepperARF
    @highstepperARF 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    You've a fine, steady hand.

    • @us-Bahn
      @us-Bahn 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Shower down then

  • @maxwellcrazycat9204
    @maxwellcrazycat9204 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I watched this movie in my 8th grade English class. Not sure why. But I still love to watch it on occasion. Around 1970.

  • @fsbirdhouse
    @fsbirdhouse 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    One of the greatest films ever made
    Now I'm not a man that uses the word "Charming" often, but no other word comes close. This is the height of those rare productions that comes along once in a very great while
    Though not it's equal by any stretch, I equate 'Luck of the Irish'
    with Tyrone power and absolutely the best Leprechaun in film history in the person of Cecil Kellaway as Irish as they come in legend

  • @jackiesharp669
    @jackiesharp669 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I agree ,it's a really great film. What I like is how much it seems true to life,not sure what life was like back then but seems right.

  • @mH8675309
    @mH8675309 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    3:03 wont be needin that anymore

  • @tracynation239
    @tracynation239 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Excellent. ♡ T.E.N.

  • @margaretmccall2627
    @margaretmccall2627 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love this film it brings back a lot of memories watching it with my mum and dad

  • @alohalaniboido8083
    @alohalaniboido8083 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonderful acting by both actors.

  • @droidzilla22
    @droidzilla22 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Quiet man isn't really a fair one. Everyone was Irish in it. Only one was a drunkard, and honestly, he wasn't always drunk.

    • @markgowans
      @markgowans 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ward Bond was American like |John Wayne

  • @NattyBumppo48
    @NattyBumppo48 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If Michaleen Flynn doesn't look just like a leprechaun at 1:05 then i never saw one....lol

  • @ernee100
    @ernee100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Stereotype? Take a quick peruse of the Try channel on TH-cam. Actual quote, "I feel like I can light my breath on fire."

  • @wolfthequarrelsome504
    @wolfthequarrelsome504 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's well known that 47% of the population of Ireland were teatotallers in this era.
    Thanks in the main to the influence of organizations associated with the church like father Matthew movement and the Pioneers Total Abstinence Association.
    The church
    Itself does not condemn alcohol.

  • @eddiepoole499
    @eddiepoole499 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Did you catch that? Michaleen said Thawn Shorten. instaed of Sean Thorton.! LOL!!! He's loaded.

  • @matteovasta5952
    @matteovasta5952 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Micheli o- l’uomo di garanzia!

  • @11cupsoftea
    @11cupsoftea ปีที่แล้ว

    "Thorn Shorton" 😆

  • @formationit5039
    @formationit5039 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    You're gonna have to dig deep to find any Irish to get all triggered up. This scene only gives me a laugh.

  • @coleparker
    @coleparker 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Well, since the movie was made by an John Ford, an Irishman, and the actor playing Mr Flynn is an Irishman, and the movie was made in Ireland, I do not think anyone involved was flying off the handle when the character was portrayed as being drunk. Besides, he is really the only one in the movie portrayed as such.

    • @johnlavery6116
      @johnlavery6116 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      A romantic view of Ireland from a period in Ireland long since gone...take with a pinch of salt........Ireland.

    • @coleparker
      @coleparker 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@johnlavery6116 Probably so, although my younger brother who is now 55 years old, married an woman who had family in Ireland. They went there on their honeymoon and he did say that in the more rural areas, there were pubs like the one in the movie. Parenthetically, I worked with a guy who was a child in Castlemane (sic), when Ford came there to make the movie. He is one of the children seen in the movie.

  • @edgardopineda3317
    @edgardopineda3317 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There is something appealing about red hair women, that i cannot find the words to express. Perhaps someone may say them, have a good afternoon!

  • @paulaharrisbaca4851
    @paulaharrisbaca4851 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    There's a movie with John Turturro, that I can't recall the title of, but it has to do with Italian and Irish workmen in the New York/New Jersey area (I think it was called "Joe") where the Italian workmen in the 1950's brought big sandwiches, "poor boys" or "hero" or "submarine" sandwiches while the Irish workers drank a bottle or two of beer for their lunch.
    I'm part Irish. And Italian. And Scots-Irish....and German. It's definitely not just a stereotype but a truism, and why woke people get so weird about these things I don't know.

  • @Woozler554
    @Woozler554 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I have been to Ireland. It is ridiculous to think all Irish are drunks - far from it. But is also naive to think that alcohol is not a large part of Irish culture. It most certainly is.

    • @wolfthequarrelsome504
      @wolfthequarrelsome504 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Most of the drunk people in Ireland now are east Europeans.
      It's illegal to be drunk in public in Ireland fyi.

    • @Woozler554
      @Woozler554 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wolfthequarrelsome504 What did I say, pal? Did I say the Irish are drunks? Work on your reading skills.

  • @gabejurewicz713
    @gabejurewicz713 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    He says he doesn't give a sh..... 😆

  • @mrgreene3290
    @mrgreene3290 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Maureen O'Hara was born in 1920, The Quiet Man was released in 1952, thus Ms. O'Hara was 32 yrs old during this filming. Barry Fitzgerald calling her a 'spinster' was great fun, but true for the ladies of that age. Her character should have been married by at least 26yrs, but likely her brother never found any of her suitor's worthy of his sister's hand.

  • @albertmata724
    @albertmata724 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Stereotype ... i am

  • @bennyorourke4412
    @bennyorourke4412 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    very good

  • @joep8787
    @joep8787 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love how she spits in her hand before she shakes his at the end. No one's commented on how insulting this movie is to Irish men. You have the gorgeous O'Hara in this little town and all the men would rather be loafing in the pub instead of working or chasing after her. The coast is clear for a Yank to come in and woo her without any competition.

    • @vizini2682
      @vizini2682 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's an interesting point but I never thought about her not being courted by the locals.

    • @margpetit1
      @margpetit1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      She was regarded as a ‘shrew’ by the locals... with her “temper”! None of them wanted anything to do with her.

    • @coleparker
      @coleparker 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No one wanted to court her because of her temper more than likely her brother.

    • @coleparker
      @coleparker 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How is the movie insulting to Irish Men. BTW, I worked with a guy who was born in the town where this movie was filmed and appears as a child extra in it. He was never offended by it.

    • @coleparker
      @coleparker 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Also, the spitting in the hand before shaking on a deal was quite common not only in Ireland, but in parts of the USA as well.

  • @pahoboye
    @pahoboye 12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    they dug him out for all the "orish " movies of the time..lil ol irishman.. throw in a few toora looras in the background...and thats the seet recipe

  • @GamblingGranny2024
    @GamblingGranny2024 ปีที่แล้ว

    Michaleen Oge Flynn

  • @christoph0r
    @christoph0r ปีที่แล้ว

    Me.

  • @endi5739
    @endi5739 ปีที่แล้ว

    She was a very pretty woman but she had a very bad temper, I bet it mustn't have been easy to coope with her on her daily baisis ^ ^

  • @squamish4244
    @squamish4244 ปีที่แล้ว

    Stereotype?
    J/k everyone.

  • @limerence8365
    @limerence8365 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Interesting to think that back then it was considered old fashioned for Americans to care about things like dowries. Mary Kate doesn't have any say for her own possessions. It's her brother who has to give consent for her to marry, its her brother who decides on the dowry. Ultimately Mary Kate doesn't want it in the end. But in this scene she shows great independence in sticking with tradition. All her furniture, all her money were hers and she wanted to keep it as it represented her freedom, independence, and her own self worth that although controlled by men and not by her at all, it was still all hers.
    Weirdly you could kind of say the same about this movie. Definitely about Ireland and glorifying Ireland, but also definitely made by Americans. Emerging Irish cinema is was very rebellious against this false, romantic view of Ireland with loveable drunks. Look up Poitín 1978 film for an example. Takes the drunk Irish stereotype to a whole other level.

  • @jamestinsley3110
    @jamestinsley3110 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You're right it didn't show the dark side of a drunk. Irish or whatever drunks are really never funny and drunk comic act have all but disappeared.

  • @692ALBANNACH
    @692ALBANNACH 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is there one on the Scottish drunk?

  • @porflepopnecker4376
    @porflepopnecker4376 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Things often become "stereotypes" because they're true. What exactly does crying about it serve?

    • @chrissumms.5194
      @chrissumms.5194 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Porfle Popnecker Stereotypes come from something that’s true, but it is exaggerated and generalized.

    • @johnmulvey5121
      @johnmulvey5121 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's right. I know one or two Irish men who like a drink. A lot to drink in fact

    • @mexicanfries5336
      @mexicanfries5336 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wrong. There is some truth in stereotypes.

    • @wolfthequarrelsome504
      @wolfthequarrelsome504 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johnmulvey5121 Not all Irish by a long shot.
      Ha.. Do you know any Russians?
      Don't the French class consume the most alcohol per capita in the world?

    • @mizofan
      @mizofan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chrissumms.5194 and some stereotypes are based on bias and are false or misleading

  • @mazdajay55
    @mazdajay55 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    🤠😘🥰

  • @tharrell5544
    @tharrell5544 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's not a stereotype. If it weren't for the Irish, they could have AA meetings in a phone booth. I'm Irish and have a bunch of Alcoholic relatives.

    • @benitolonard4441
      @benitolonard4441 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ireland isn't even in the top 20 countries for alcohol consumption per capita

    • @Woozler554
      @Woozler554 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@benitolonard4441 Based on WHAT???

    • @benitolonard4441
      @benitolonard4441 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Woozler554 Based on you're on a bloody computer look it up. Ireland is in the top ten for beering drinking but way outside the top 20 for wine and spirit drinking. Overall Ireland is outside the top twenty according to WHO

    • @Woozler554
      @Woozler554 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@benitolonard4441 No, YOU look it up, pal. YOU made the assertion, so YOU produce the evidence to back it up. I am not going to do your dirty work.

    • @Woozler554
      @Woozler554 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@benitolonard4441 Out of curiosity, have you ever been to Ireland?

  • @normellison5347
    @normellison5347 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My grandfather was a drunk Englishman , lousy weather is lousy weather and pints are pints mate !

  • @jm-nv5bl
    @jm-nv5bl ปีที่แล้ว

    This is my favourite movie and I don't really like john wayne films

  • @penguinegg01
    @penguinegg01 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I thought the whole film was pretty insulting to Irishmen.

    • @seanpatrickrowley
      @seanpatrickrowley 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This film is not derogatory. It's an instance where a group is telling a story about themselves - the good and the bad. You're watching the struggle of an oppressed society and their diaspora being processed in real-time.

    • @debbrarobinson1548
      @debbrarobinson1548 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      fas roinnt liathroidi sneachta

    • @stevlehr
      @stevlehr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@seanpatrickrowley Every time I watch this movie a feel like visiting Ireland. The movie, if anything, expresses love. My mother's people left Ireland in 1740 because they were being forced to tithe to a church to which they didn't belong.

    • @Keepingitrespectfulmostly.
      @Keepingitrespectfulmostly. 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stevlehr My great grandmother and her husband came over to Liverpool from Dublin in the late 1800's I discovered and he found work. My mothers mother and her husband are from Cork and Tipperary. It mentioned somewhere called Leafy Lane in the West of Ireland too on her birth certificate. I did a tour of the Guinness factory Dublin years ago when I stayed with some friends in Longford and the lady who sold me the ticket saw my surname and thought I was up for the day from Cork. My visit to Dublin and friends I saw in the two or three days I was there far excelled any way I have been treated and looked upon in England my whole life. Maybe if I ever win the lottery or get some other chance I will go back to Ireland again I still have loads or relatives in Limerick. When we visited in the late 70s the whole family went and just because the car we were using had GB sticker on the back we had rocks thrown underneath it by some idiots.. It was around the time there was a riot at a local prison too and they were all up on the roof is all I remember of it I was still quite young. All in all good visits though. Dodging the rain all the time..

    • @kevinkane7667
      @kevinkane7667 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@debbrarobinson1548 no need to say that.