And so the solution is a phone twice as thick as a normal one? And ten times more fragile being made out of plastic? And a lot more expensive? I mean you do you but…
With Good Lock installed, i use the cover display about 70% of the time. Email, WhatsApp, Message, Samsung Health and YT Music all work great. And using the cover display for selfies results in excellent results since you are using the main cameras.
I owned both, got rid of the zflip and kept the motorola. The razr cover screen is so much better than the zflips smart watch widget design. And large cover screen actually does make a difference especially if you need more real estate for poorer eyesight. I listened to tons of reviews and was scared to buy the razr thinking the cameras were so poor that they were unsuable..Sure glad i did not listen. I guarantee most users of this phone will be perfectly fine with the pictures they take. I was.
Since you're an old dude I'm sure you see no problem with camera quality considering you were still using disposables growing up. (If you can see anything due to your poor eyesight)
coming from an iphone 13 pro max and being apple the last 14 yrs this razr has been the most amazing change of pace. i had rly been naive toward android and this phone overall has astounded me. the caneras for anyone concerned are just fine and honestly have better stock filters which for sm1 who uses picsart as well as lightroom and other apps for adjustments and fx , ive found them very fun and useful in getting a few steps of workflow done real quick. theres not a discernable enuf difference for me between the camera sets if you ad efx u have tons of compression bo natter what by the time u post it isnt too important imo. if you are bored of apple and want something that makes getting a new phone fun again for the first time , switch to a razr and i promise you have fun discovering new features every day
who cares about cameras, it's a phone hahaha. I'd rather a great phone and pop a camera in my pocket when I go on holidays. Let's each device do it's own thing well I say
I have owned the flip 3 ,the fold 3 and the flip 4. For about a week. I am now using the razor ultra. And I have to respectfully disagree I prefer the razor ultra over that flip 5.
Neither one is the best one. They both have things that are good and bad. It's a personal preference. I prefer the motorola even though the camara supposedly isn't as good as the Samsung but that's not a deal breaker for me. The Samsung you get more updates, again not a deal breaker. I don't intend keeping it for more than 3 years so that doesn't bother me. I liked the Motorola from day 1 and no amount of comparison videos would put me off it.
I think I mostly agree with him but I still got the Moto because I love Moto. ...though I haven't heard if the razr retains the flashlight gesture when folded, I'm gonna be slightly disappointed if not.
Great unbiased review. My biggest issue with these flip phones is the massive LCD failure rates. I've had 2 z flip 3's over the past 20 or so months and they both failed with similar failures after about 9-10 months. Fortunately the failure came within one year of purchase, so I had the first replacement come free (although a bit of a headache updating a new phone). But even though Samsung tried to replace my lcd for $250, it was a pathetic attempt that took nearly 3 weeks, the bevels on the screen were damaged, and the phone only lasted a mere 2 hours before the screen failed once again. I suggested they upgrade me to the Z flip 5 for $500 (on top of the $250 I spent for repair) and they said they;d get back to me. I doubt they will. So I'm going to try out the Motorola.
Had my ZFlip3 for about 21 months now. Dropped it numerous times, even facedown on a steel pipe. All that's wrong with it is a VERY small portion of discolored pixels.
@@patrycjasochran4846 it's definitely not full day, heavy use gets me to around 7pm then I'll plug it in. Plus I'd hold off until 50 ultra comes out soon.
So, this is XDA afterall, and in the spirit of what thid site was originally all about, the Razr wins as its able to be bootloader unlocked after 7 days (TMO units and unlocked at least), unlike the Samsung. Rootable is the killer feature for me 😅 Loving mine after a week so far, had the 5G before so its a nice upgrade!
Samsung is so overrated and overpriced, their quality is dropping off a cliff with the S24 versions. My Samsung S10+ is still amazing been all downhill from then with newer Samsung models.
I got the razr+ ( it's fantastic! ) cuz Samsung same design and sorry but really ugly for me. I believe IP52 better than IP X (nothing) 8 cuz both are water resistant ( It's okay if I don't dive into the pool with my phone) but Motorola has dust resistant too which is so important! We all know what happened with previous flips... Razr is iconic and original flip phone. I love the sleek design not bulky. And majority of specs moto is one step ahead, however all reviewers say " we don't see that much difference in daily use". If Samsung had Motorola's features, it would still be called Samsung is the best hahaha I don't find this fair !
@@poohwecampbell7799 exactly, only people who have knowledge can say except cameras, Motorola is king at all other things that the flip 5 does, I myself am a proud user of Motorola edge 30 ultra, love using it every day 😊
Unless you got the box which many of us don't anymore, Motorola Razr+ is now $699 for everyday price. That's a lot of phone for the money. I love everything about mine.
@anthonys.3129 Moto's UI is massively short of One UI in Updates Frequency of Length of Features Stability You can make any UI look like stock but you can't improve on the UI.
Holding the moto rz+ phone in hand. Bought it after playing with my sister's flip 5 for a few. Coming from a flip 3. Everyone has different likes and thoughts. One thing . Sammy phones are great. But always buggy. The moto razr just works. Day to day so far I haven't thought of crap my is this freezing or doing other crap. But do you. Sammy is better cause you all say so haha. And camera is weak on the moto but I have a pixel 7 pro I use for work if I need to take a picture for the masses
Meh the obvious crease on the main screen is ugly to see & feel. The functionality behind the small screen on the Moto seems way smoother and intentional which to me is like the entire purpose of using phone like this in the first place isn’t it? Samsung makes pretty stuff but ui consistency and function was always a bummer in my experience
I started out with the ZFlip 5 because of trading in my Pixel Pro 7 trade-in value and I just sold it and bought the Razr+ last week. I like the feel and useability of Razr+ more over the ZFlip 5 and the battery life on the ZFlip is horrible compared to the Razr+. But we shall see I wanted the Razr+ first and got the ZFlip 5 before but after a week a use we shall see if I like it after a month.
Razr bigger a lit. I’m Samsung user before. I hate their battery. Specially when you use for gaming. Over time it slow the system down. Compare to iPhone, iPhone fast battery last long. I’m using iPhone 8 still pretty good for 6 yrs. I hate buying that that samsung with that hi price then to find out it will last only 2 or 3 yrs. But I do really like the foldable phone. So I’m thinking very hard lol
I'm in the same boat. My z flip 5's screen completely became unresponsive 2 days after my cat scratched my screen. The only screen that worked was my cover screen 😐 I traded in my z flip 3 (the screen would also randomly become unresponsive & had green lines after 8 months) for this 5 not even 3 months ago and it's already broken. I'm super disappointed that I've had 2 z flips already broken within 1 year! I don't want to pay $216 to send in the phone to Samsung for 10-12 business days just for them to replace the screen & it most likely break again. So, I just bought the Razr 2023 (not the Ultra) instead since I still wanted a foldable and we'll see how it goes! I'm so done with Samsung.
Got the Razr coming from the Flip 3. Wanted to wait for the 5 Flip but my Flip 3 was so beat up I could not wait even 3 weeks. Have no issues with my new Razr.
Well, not that my opinion matters to anyone other than me, I'm looking at this a bit differently. If performance is an issue, the moto plus I've seen have a 133 mhz refresh not 120 at least it's what the phone shows when checked. Larger screen in and out. More functionality of the outer screen should be paramount, since this is a flip. If not, then why the hell buy a flip if you're using it open most of the time. And 4 yrs of software? Who the hell cares. 92 percent of people, based on average, keep their phones 2 yrs at best. If you need a great digital camera, buy one, this is a phone. I see them both used every day, durability of outside screen and hinge continuity of the moto is superior. Heat from the battery is far less from the moto even after extended use. Charge time is faster, 30 watt vs 25. Antenna receptivity tests show better real world connectivity in distance as well as reception in both cellular and wifi applications and since the premise of a phone is to actually communicate with others, might be considered as well. Samsung may build a better TV than Motorola but they don't build a "better" phone. Wait, that's right, how stupid of me...Motorola is a telecommunications company first from the beginning... Samsung is a TV builder.
idk why having a very functional outer screen is a big deal, i think the point of having only widgets in the outer screen is to expose the user to less distractions
I wound up going with the non + Razr exactly for that reason, I wanted LESS distractions from my phone. Yeah, the outer screen would be nice, but not having it is nice. I can still check weather, notifications, control music/media, and some settings. Plus it has the vegan leather back which is super grippy.
so.... basically your saying the moto does everything better than the flip 5 except 1. camera 2. minor outer screen brightness and you still go with the flip 5? interesting.
Will replace my S22 Ultra with either the current Razr or wait a bit for the next iteration - reasons? 1 - Samsung is Bloatware king - drives me crazy! Photo advantage? - that's what I have a Nikon SLR + lenses for.
one big factor not mentioned is price - the razor+ is significantly less expensive and it sounds like it's quite comparable overall... so I might just want save a few hundred bucks and go with a lesser camera
Saw this video, and thanks for the honesty. Thankfully, I don't have an obsession with phone cameras. I picked up the Razr+ and it's truly amazing. I find the screen is crazy bright, but, to be fair, this was a pretty big upgrade for me. The usefulness of the outside screen in incredible and every app I use on a regular basis is supported.
Hate samsung software and their first party bloatware that can never be uninstalled and just eat up storage space. And plus if you want more functionality on the flip you have to download another app good lock and then that app downloads other apps to make it work. Pathetic compared to moto's clean ui with apps that are actually needed and useful.
I have the razor Plus I'm satisfied with the phone would recommend it to anyone I got the black design but I have until Thursday to decide I might switch over to the red
I just bought the Razr & I am completely obsessed. I originally wanted the zflip because I been a Samsung user for over 12 years but in converted & won't be looking back. Motorola is on the up & up once again!
From what I can tell, Samsung's brightness algorithm adjusts the contrast significantly when outdoor mode is triggered. Indoors or out of direct sunlight, the display dims to its "normal" peak brightness and contrast curves (they crush the blacks/dark colors for extra legibility) are set to their factory settings.
Recently purchase the Motorola razr+ after a bumpy start, I'm mostly happy with it. What I want, is a fully capable, pocket size phone. Unfortunately no pocket sized phones work on US service providers very well. The moto was $300 less than the flip 5. That tipped the scales for me. But likely to go back to a slab when this ☠️
Some good points thank you. I love a good camera, but was disappointed in the Note 20 camera compared to my old Samsung 9 which still take prettier photos and videos for upload. Maybe it’s because of compression, but yeah, I just like the way the photos look for gaming content. At this point at least. Considering the Razr because of the size and external screen
I got the Razr+ from day one, and haven't looked back I love it. Also had Samsung phones and two or three different apps to do the same thing was a pain.
You are one of the only channels to upload a video today that isn't about the iPhone 15 series. Also the Moto has a 144Hz outer display, not 120Hz. Also the Flip does not have 8K video as you need at least 33MP for 8K video.
Yesterday's Apple Event highlights how relatively boring they've become.... though tbf, there's not a lot you can do nowadays with a basic slab-type phone. I've moved to the ZED Flip 5 but also still have my iPhone 13 Pro Max. I was waiting to see what they had to offer before deciding what to do with regards to trading-in....I won't be! I agree with your assessment of the cover screen experience on the Flip 5...it's not the best (yet), but knowing Sammy, you just know they're working on it. Software updates will hopefully improve that aspect, but when the phone is in the opened-up state, it's the usual Samsung polished experience and tbh, the cover screen (for me) is just something to flick through to see if it needs to be opened up for anything _more_ than just the basic notification confirmations or expansions.
Maybe it’s just me but why can’t we get more out of the outer screen considering back in the day the screen on the original razor was probably similar size and the screen on some Nokias were same size ? So in theory we should be able to do more
Im a proud user os the RAZR+ (here called RAZR 40 Ultra), and is a teally nice device, had a touch failure on the inner screen earlier but since it was still on warranty i got a replacement... I do think the only places where the Samsung have an edge is on the slightly superior chipsrt and the better camera, other than that Motorola gets the cake easily...
I swapped my S22 Ultra for the Flip 5, what can I say, I absolutely love it, yes there is no zoom lens, yes the camera is a bit of a downgrade, but hey 99% of time I took 12 megapixel photos with the Ultra alsoand used 90% of the time the normal and wide lens. So I think it is quite OK, as for some saying that it is twice the size when folded is absolute rubbish, it's almost the same thickness. I agree with the flip you have to cut some corners, but in my point of view, it's definitely worth it. Let's see how long it lasts, that is my only concern. I used the S22 Ultra from the launch, I have questions for this one, but to be honest I am hopeful.
I just came out my carrier store like an hour ago and between the two I went with the razr due to the bigger screen and the slightly faster charging speed Even tho I have a Nord n30 Wich charges with a 50watt charger I wanted to get the razr ultra
I think it definitely has more features than my previous razr, however being nitpicky I'm coming across a few issues. It's almost too big for my hands and uncomfortable to hold, however at the same time the three button navigation is way too small and I can't seem to adjust it. Thirdly, the font defaults are really ugly and bother my eyes but I can't seem to be able to change the font by downloading my own. Overall... I'll live.
I find the less wide angle of the Motorola main camera an advantage, to be honest. It comes closer to the 28mm experience of regular camera's. Less perspective distortion.
I think the Razr is the better flip phone and Samsung needs a lot of catching up to do. It is just a better all rounder and bigger front screen the fact any app can work, better battery life, the tactile feel of the Razr in the hand. I moving to the Razr from a iPhone 13 mini form factor alone. The camera on the Razr is good. The Samsung was tempting but it is isn’t an improvement over last years model plus too iPhone ish.
Using flip 5 now the front screen is terrible very hard to use because of the bad ui and bad refresh rate. However samsung build quality is really good. Motorola front screen is super awesome compared to flip 5 larger screen and buttery smooth refresh rate makes it super easy to use the front screen, however the build quality is crap lots of creeks here and there.
Motorola comes standard with screen protectors which it will remind you often not to remove initially. There are more than a few cases out there, often with integrated stands.
I loved my Z Flip while it lasted, just bought the Razr Plus to give it a shot since I don't like the Samsung skin they put on the operating system. So non intuitive, it drove me away
I got my Razor Ultra for 812€ that is VAT included, a great Black Friday Week deal. The Flip 5 never crossed my mind as the front screen from the Razor is far superior. The camera is very good, I'm a private user and make some pictures, for me it is perfect. The 5 W wireless charge are fine as well. Over night is just is on the charging station and it is full in the morning. Due to the fact that you use over 50% the small front screen, the batterylife is awsome. I haven't noticed any issues because it is a last gen CPU, seriously who would notice?
I'd buy this phone mainly for the outer screen usability, and there the Motorola wins hands down. Full stop. Cameras on both are rather really bad, and as for 4 year updates in probably going you change in 3 years or less so Motorola wins again and again. Yeah samsung is good, but i want and need this phone for compact outer screen. Motorola can run almost any app on the outer screen but Sammy is really limited to only a few widgets. Motorola is getting my money this time. Roll on the RAZR
!! Do not buy one of these phones!! Unless you sincerely don't not care about wasting money. It's not a question of if the screen will break, no it's how fast will it break..... It's 100% unpredictable. Then you can forget about it because the parts and repair are ((very)) expensive. Don't buy one trust me this is my second foldable....it lasted (3 days) !!!!!!!!!!! Save yourself 👍
-Custom gestures should enable users to enter text, perform music, or play console/PC quality games -Each screen should be a combination of LCD, translucent LED, and epaper displays -Modules should be supported, even if only on the part with no screen, for example: *A refreshable Braille display (even if just one character) *A magnetic/body heat charger that works through waterproof cases *A camera/projector (even if not the solid-state optical phased array kind) *A solid-state thermal and/or directional speaker -Support for arm/wrist straps/tool bracelets may be better off built in
The 60 outside is fine. Screen is to small to really have it and it eats more battery. So I think it was a much smarter move. The main screen is the thing that is the most important.
No,it's just excuse because Samsung doesn't have 120hz cover screen It's like you own a Ferrari and other people complain on V8 gas economy!! Objectively Motorola really nailed in looks and overall design of flip phone compare to Samsung.
@@dado380 sure but it comes for a cost of battery life and much worse cameras and older chip and less software updates. Those are a lot of sacrifice for a tiny screen to have 120 hrz. Really not a big deal it doesn't has it. U use the inner screen way more anyway. So I really don't see the issue. IPhone 15 doesn't has 120 on their phones and they only have one screen and can't flip fold. Just saying.
I worked ten hours today. Had Spotify going all day plus two half hour breaks and for 1 hour heavy use this morning and now I'm using it still not charged it yet . And we are at 37 percent. Easy to say this or that when you don't know or even really care. How could you with all that iPhone 12 I mean 13 I mean 14 I mean 15 meat all up in your throat. My boy got the iPhone 15 a few days ago😅 its a 12 with a few updates y'all are dumb as hell . I'm gonna take his phone and turn it upside down and sell it for double cause it's now a iPhone 16 flip upside down side. Trust me bro. The 15 is better than the 14 you can't tell you just know. It's gotta be. It's not a 14 it's a 15.
These videos sound like ads for Apple devices, but often fail to acknowledge that many "new" iOS features have been available on Android for years. With an Android, there really is very little limitation in what you can do given the time and energy to learn your options and take advantage of them. Everything on my Android devices is fully automated, including my keyboard shortcuts and predictions, and I use quick gestures rather than icons to do everything.The result is that using Android is much faster and easier than using an Apple device, and the time savings are significant - not to mention that my devices look great and the customizations are wholly unique. My business generates more income with Android because of these time savings - and my employees are happy with their own unique personalization on their devices. No one who has experienced these benefits of Android would switch to iOS simply because it isn't worth the additional time input Apple devices require (and time really is money), but also because of the associated aggravations and frustration. This said, though, many people do want a device that is simple and easy to use out of the box, and many are happy when their device looks and functions like those of everyone around them. For these people, and others who lack vision and creativity, Apple fulfills a need.
I'm still waiting for the Google Pixel Flip. Fingers crossed they steal the best features from Samsung and Motorola, and offer superior battery life. My Z Flip 4 already feels dated. Sigh.
The one thing that makes the Razr+ superior is that it has support for Ready For unlike the Z Flip 5 which doesn't support Dex. Despite that, I'd choose the Z Flip 5 solely because of the 4 years of software updates plus One UI's mind blowing customization options.
Motorola is pretty slow with the updates. I'm just now getting Novembers security patch in mid January. God knows how long it'll take to get Android 14.
I am not sure foldables will ever be popular the cheaper ones are full of compromises and the more expensive can cost more than a MacBook. Plus friends and family i know that are super careful with they phones has reported you are lucky if it lasts 9 months before the screen breaks
As good as they both look, I'm planning to wait for the next gen to see what Moto learns from their first foldable. EDIT: First foldable with a large external display.
@@GH0STST4RSCR34M Nope, I was referring to Razor+ which has a looks to have much better build quality and larger, more useful external display vs the previous generations. I'm curious if Moto will up their camera game with the next Razr+...
With Good Lock installed the Z Flip outer screen is perfect (who the &^*$ would try and use maps with it?). Every comparison of these phones chooses the Z flip.
People say the flip phone is now a gimmick but I genuinely just want a phone that comfortably fits in my pocket….
i am looking to get a flip phone just because of what you say. its just sooooo clumsy to have a car door in my pocket so i want something smaller
Yep. I always dropped my phone.
I think all phones will be foldable eventually.As they offer both big screen and compact size when folded.No brainier.
I bought a z flip3 for that reason. Within months I bought a iPhone12mini to replace it.
And so the solution is a phone twice as thick as a normal one? And ten times more fragile being made out of plastic? And a lot more expensive? I mean you do you but…
With Good Lock installed, i use the cover display about 70% of the time. Email, WhatsApp, Message, Samsung Health and YT Music all work great. And using the cover display for selfies results in excellent results since you are using the main cameras.
I owned both, got rid of the zflip and kept the motorola. The razr cover screen is so much better than the zflips smart watch widget design. And large cover screen actually does make a difference especially if you need more real estate for poorer eyesight. I listened to tons of reviews and was scared to buy the razr thinking the cameras were so poor that they were unsuable..Sure glad i did not listen. I guarantee most users of this phone will be perfectly fine with the pictures they take. I was.
Since you're an old dude I'm sure you see no problem with camera quality considering you were still using disposables growing up. (If you can see anything due to your poor eyesight)
coming from an iphone 13 pro max and being apple the last 14 yrs this razr has been the most amazing change of pace. i had rly been naive toward android and this phone overall has astounded me. the caneras for anyone concerned are just fine and honestly have better stock filters which for sm1 who uses picsart as well as lightroom and other apps for adjustments and fx , ive found them very fun and useful in getting a few steps of workflow done real quick. theres not a discernable enuf difference for me between the camera sets if you ad efx u have tons of compression bo natter what by the time u post it isnt too important imo. if you are bored of apple and want something that makes getting a new phone fun again for the first time , switch to a razr and i promise you have fun discovering new features every day
"Old dude"? I think you're jealous of this guy's intelligence or you work for samsung@@jbwon2775
who cares about cameras, it's a phone hahaha. I'd rather a great phone and pop a camera in my pocket when I go on holidays. Let's each device do it's own thing well I say
@@jbwon2775 Children have poor eyesight... Perhaps that ignorance demonstrates your immature response?
I have owned the flip 3 ,the fold 3 and the flip 4. For about a week. I am now using the razor ultra. And I have to respectfully disagree I prefer the razor ultra over that flip 5.
Can you please explain why ? ❤
Just that moto ultra camera kinda suck,
Couldn't careless about camera's myself.
The camera is relatively good the video is bad@@supersonkamei5757
How's the battery? I currently have 4200 mah and I'm worried Razr won't keep up
Neither one is the best one. They both have things that are good and bad. It's a personal preference. I prefer the motorola even though the camara supposedly isn't as good as the Samsung but that's not a deal breaker for me. The Samsung you get more updates, again not a deal breaker. I don't intend keeping it for more than 3 years so that doesn't bother me. I liked the Motorola from day 1 and no amount of comparison videos would put me off it.
I think I mostly agree with him but I still got the Moto because I love Moto. ...though I haven't heard if the razr retains the flashlight gesture when folded, I'm gonna be slightly disappointed if not.
waiting for my new Razr+ tomorrow...Can't wait to experience
How's it holding up?
What's the verdict?
So, how is it?
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Great unbiased review. My biggest issue with these flip phones is the massive LCD failure rates. I've had 2 z flip 3's over the past 20 or so months and they both failed with similar failures after about 9-10 months. Fortunately the failure came within one year of purchase, so I had the first replacement come free (although a bit of a headache updating a new phone). But even though Samsung tried to replace my lcd for $250, it was a pathetic attempt that took nearly 3 weeks, the bevels on the screen were damaged, and the phone only lasted a mere 2 hours before the screen failed once again. I suggested they upgrade me to the Z flip 5 for $500 (on top of the $250 I spent for repair) and they said they;d get back to me. I doubt they will. So I'm going to try out the Motorola.
Had my ZFlip3 for about 21 months now. Dropped it numerous times, even facedown on a steel pipe. All that's wrong with it is a VERY small portion of discolored pixels.
Yeah display failure rates are pathetic on the Samsung.
Да. Самсунг зажрался и забивает на ремонт. Затягивает на месяцы, чтобы брали у них на время ремонта запасный смарт. Короче пидерюги
I've had my flip 3 for nearly 3 years now. Have dropped it a couple of times. Still works great......maybe it's user error seeing you had 2 fail
I've got the Motorola Razr 40 Ultra - really impressed with it
How's the battery? I am thinking to buy Razr but I currently have Samsung with 4200mah battery and I'm worried Razr won't keep up.. thoughts?
@@patrycjasochran4846 it's definitely not full day, heavy use gets me to around 7pm then I'll plug it in.
Plus I'd hold off until 50 ultra comes out soon.
same. love it. Battery is the best of any phone i've owned in yeeaarrs.
So, this is XDA afterall, and in the spirit of what thid site was originally all about, the Razr wins as its able to be bootloader unlocked after 7 days (TMO units and unlocked at least), unlike the Samsung. Rootable is the killer feature for me 😅
Loving mine after a week so far, had the 5G before so its a nice upgrade!
Motorola razr 40 ultra is amazing,m loving it, happy with my decision to go with it🎉
What's your take on the cameras in it?
Moto is far better than sam
@AmitVerma-le5je lol nice joke man 😂😂😂
I have red colour Motorola razer 40 ultra,, amazing design ❤❤
Samsung is so overrated and overpriced, their quality is dropping off a cliff with the S24 versions.
My Samsung S10+ is still amazing been all downhill from then with newer Samsung models.
I got the razr+ ( it's fantastic! ) cuz Samsung same design and sorry but really ugly for me. I believe IP52 better than IP X (nothing) 8 cuz both are water resistant ( It's okay if I don't dive into the pool with my phone) but Motorola has dust resistant too which is so important! We all know what happened with previous flips... Razr is iconic and original flip phone. I love the sleek design not bulky. And majority of specs moto is one step ahead, however all reviewers say " we don't see that much difference in daily use". If Samsung had Motorola's features, it would still be called Samsung is the best hahaha I don't find this fair !
these people are so pro Samsung it’s crazy !! And knowing the razr one in almost every category he ranked it!!!
@@poohwecampbell7799 exactly, only people who have knowledge can say except cameras, Motorola is king at all other things that the flip 5 does, I myself am a proud user of Motorola edge 30 ultra, love using it every day 😊
Unless you got the box which many of us don't anymore, Motorola Razr+ is now $699 for everyday price. That's a lot of phone for the money. I love everything about mine.
I think the Moto has the better outer screen, but over-all the Flip 5 is better in every other area. I chose the Flip 5.
The Flip kills the moto every single year , the Moto is built to cheaply you can see it and fell it in the hand.
Agree mostly. I prefer Motorolas UI to One UI, however. It has a more “vanilla” feel and some nice extra features
@anthonys.3129 Moto's UI is massively short of One UI in
Updates
Frequency of
Length of
Features
Stability
You can make any UI look like stock but you can't improve on the UI.
Holding the moto rz+ phone in hand. Bought it after playing with my sister's flip 5 for a few. Coming from a flip 3. Everyone has different likes and thoughts. One thing . Sammy phones are great. But always buggy. The moto razr just works. Day to day so far I haven't thought of crap my is this freezing or doing other crap. But do you. Sammy is better cause you all say so haha. And camera is weak on the moto but I have a pixel 7 pro I use for work if I need to take a picture for the masses
Meh the obvious crease on the main screen is ugly to see & feel. The functionality behind the small screen on the Moto seems way smoother and intentional which to me is like the entire purpose of using phone like this in the first place isn’t it?
Samsung makes pretty stuff but ui consistency and function was always a bummer in my experience
I have the flip 5. Love it.
iv had both of these phones and the Motorola is definitely the best
Depends on price....
Razor is obviously better for many reasons, too many problems with the Flip just check online....
I started out with the ZFlip 5 because of trading in my Pixel Pro 7 trade-in value and I just sold it and bought the Razr+ last week. I like the feel and useability of Razr+ more over the ZFlip 5 and the battery life on the ZFlip is horrible compared to the Razr+. But we shall see I wanted the Razr+ first and got the ZFlip 5 before but after a week a use we shall see if I like it after a month.
How’s it going so far ?
Give us an update when you can! I’m also curious
Razr bigger a lit. I’m Samsung user before. I hate their battery. Specially when you use for gaming. Over time it slow the system down. Compare to iPhone, iPhone fast battery last long. I’m using iPhone 8 still pretty good for 6 yrs. I hate buying that that samsung with that hi price then to find out it will last only 2 or 3 yrs. But I do really like the foldable phone. So I’m thinking very hard lol
@@angelsbreathe126there's many models of Samsung, you make it sound like high end Samsung Galaxy S is the same as the low end Galaxy A.
I'm in the same boat. My z flip 5's screen completely became unresponsive 2 days after my cat scratched my screen. The only screen that worked was my cover screen 😐 I traded in my z flip 3 (the screen would also randomly become unresponsive & had green lines after 8 months) for this 5 not even 3 months ago and it's already broken. I'm super disappointed that I've had 2 z flips already broken within 1 year! I don't want to pay $216 to send in the phone to Samsung for 10-12 business days just for them to replace the screen & it most likely break again. So, I just bought the Razr 2023 (not the Ultra) instead since I still wanted a foldable and we'll see how it goes! I'm so done with Samsung.
Got the Razr coming from the Flip 3. Wanted to wait for the 5 Flip but my Flip 3 was so beat up I could not wait even 3 weeks. Have no issues with my new Razr.
How's the battery? I currently have 4200 mah and I'm worried Razr won't keep up
Well, not that my opinion matters to anyone other than me, I'm looking at this a bit differently. If performance is an issue, the moto plus I've seen have a 133 mhz refresh not 120 at least it's what the phone shows when checked. Larger screen in and out. More functionality of the outer screen should be paramount, since this is a flip. If not, then why the hell buy a flip if you're using it open most of the time. And 4 yrs of software? Who the hell cares. 92 percent of people, based on average, keep their phones 2 yrs at best. If you need a great digital camera, buy one, this is a phone. I see them both used every day, durability of outside screen and hinge continuity of the moto is superior. Heat from the battery is far less from the moto even after extended use. Charge time is faster, 30 watt vs 25. Antenna receptivity tests show better real world connectivity in distance as well as reception in both cellular and wifi applications and since the premise of a phone is to actually communicate with others, might be considered as well. Samsung may build a better TV than Motorola but they don't build a "better" phone. Wait, that's right, how stupid of me...Motorola is a telecommunications company first from the beginning... Samsung is a TV builder.
Wow well said. I'm sold!
The cameras on these phone just aren't important to me, but the bloat of software is, I'll pick the Moto 7 days a week.
idk why having a very functional outer screen is a big deal, i think the point of having only widgets in the outer screen is to expose the user to less distractions
I wound up going with the non + Razr exactly for that reason, I wanted LESS distractions from my phone. Yeah, the outer screen would be nice, but not having it is nice. I can still check weather, notifications, control music/media, and some settings. Plus it has the vegan leather back which is super grippy.
Apparently for some people having to open a flip phone is a major dilemma.
so.... basically your saying the moto does everything better than the flip 5 except 1. camera 2. minor outer screen brightness and you still go with the flip 5? interesting.
It's called BIAS
Will replace my S22 Ultra with either the current Razr or wait a bit for the next iteration - reasons? 1 - Samsung is Bloatware king - drives me crazy! Photo advantage? - that's what I have a Nikon SLR + lenses for.
one big factor not mentioned is price - the razor+ is significantly less expensive and it sounds like it's quite comparable overall... so I might just want save a few hundred bucks and go with a lesser camera
Saw this video, and thanks for the honesty. Thankfully, I don't have an obsession with phone cameras. I picked up the Razr+ and it's truly amazing. I find the screen is crazy bright, but, to be fair, this was a pretty big upgrade for me. The usefulness of the outside screen in incredible and every app I use on a regular basis is supported.
Hate samsung software and their first party bloatware that can never be uninstalled and just eat up storage space. And plus if you want more functionality on the flip you have to download another app good lock and then that app downloads other apps to make it work. Pathetic compared to moto's clean ui with apps that are actually needed and useful.
But performance wise the Samsungs blow everything away
Can you do “ what is the best flip phone from 20 years ago?” Video?
I have the razor Plus I'm satisfied with the phone would recommend it to anyone I got the black design but I have until Thursday to decide I might switch over to the red
How battery drain for gamers
I just bought the Razr & I am completely obsessed. I originally wanted the zflip because I been a Samsung user for over 12 years but in converted & won't be looking back. Motorola is on the up & up once again!
From what I can tell, Samsung's brightness algorithm adjusts the contrast significantly when outdoor mode is triggered. Indoors or out of direct sunlight, the display dims to its "normal" peak brightness and contrast curves (they crush the blacks/dark colors for extra legibility) are set to their factory settings.
I'll make it short .. Motorola wins ...
Recently purchase the Motorola razr+ after a bumpy start, I'm mostly happy with it. What I want, is a fully capable, pocket size phone. Unfortunately no pocket sized phones work on US service providers very well. The moto was $300 less than the flip 5. That tipped the scales for me. But likely to go back to a slab when this ☠️
Can you make phone calls on these devices? How are the phone call qualities?
Of course you can
Some good points thank you. I love a good camera, but was disappointed in the Note 20 camera compared to my old Samsung 9 which still take prettier photos and videos for upload. Maybe it’s because of compression, but yeah, I just like the way the photos look for gaming content. At this point at least. Considering the Razr because of the size and external screen
I got the Razr+ from day one, and haven't looked back I love it. Also had Samsung phones and two or three different apps to do the same thing was a pain.
You are one of the only channels to upload a video today that isn't about the iPhone 15 series.
Also the Moto has a 144Hz outer display, not 120Hz.
Also the Flip does not have 8K video as you need at least 33MP for 8K video.
Yesterday's Apple Event highlights how relatively boring they've become.... though tbf, there's not a lot you can do nowadays with a basic slab-type phone. I've moved to the ZED Flip 5 but also still have my iPhone 13 Pro Max. I was waiting to see what they had to offer before deciding what to do with regards to trading-in....I won't be!
I agree with your assessment of the cover screen experience on the Flip 5...it's not the best (yet), but knowing Sammy, you just know they're working on it. Software updates will hopefully improve that aspect, but when the phone is in the opened-up state, it's the usual Samsung polished experience and tbh, the cover screen (for me) is just something to flick through to see if it needs to be opened up for anything _more_ than just the basic notification confirmations or expansions.
Z flip phone 5,dont be afraid to write letter Z
Maybe it’s just me but why can’t we get more out of the outer screen considering back in the day the screen on the original razor was probably similar size and the screen on some Nokias were same size ? So in theory we should be able to do more
Moto all the way 4 me
Im a proud user os the RAZR+ (here called RAZR 40 Ultra), and is a teally nice device, had a touch failure on the inner screen earlier but since it was still on warranty i got a replacement... I do think the only places where the Samsung have an edge is on the slightly superior chipsrt and the better camera, other than that Motorola gets the cake easily...
I swapped my S22 Ultra for the Flip 5, what can I say, I absolutely love it, yes there is no zoom lens, yes the camera is a bit of a downgrade, but hey 99% of time I took 12 megapixel photos with the Ultra alsoand used 90% of the time the normal and wide lens. So I think it is quite OK, as for some saying that it is twice the size when folded is absolute rubbish, it's almost the same thickness. I agree with the flip you have to cut some corners, but in my point of view, it's definitely worth it. Let's see how long it lasts, that is my only concern. I used the S22 Ultra from the launch, I have questions for this one, but to be honest I am hopeful.
I just came out my carrier store like an hour ago and between the two I went with the razr due to the bigger screen and the slightly faster charging speed
Even tho I have a Nord n30 Wich charges with a 50watt charger I wanted to get the razr ultra
I think it definitely has more features than my previous razr, however being nitpicky I'm coming across a few issues.
It's almost too big for my hands and uncomfortable to hold, however at the same time the three button navigation is way too small and I can't seem to adjust it. Thirdly, the font defaults are really ugly and bother my eyes but I can't seem to be able to change the font by downloading my own. Overall... I'll live.
I find the less wide angle of the Motorola main camera an advantage, to be honest. It comes closer to the 28mm experience of regular camera's. Less perspective distortion.
What always stop me to buy Motorola phones is the camera
Remaining with Samsung candy-bar phone. Samsung's DeX and S-Pen are amazing on my Note 20. The Z-Flip deal breaker is it does not have DeX nor S-Pen.
I think the Razr is the better flip phone and Samsung needs a lot of catching up to do. It is just a better all rounder and bigger front screen the fact any app can work, better battery life, the tactile feel of the Razr in the hand. I moving to the Razr from a iPhone 13 mini form factor alone. The camera on the Razr is good. The Samsung was tempting but it is isn’t an improvement over last years model plus too iPhone ish.
Problem flip has deep creaese moto hardly has one
Using flip 5 now the front screen is terrible very hard to use because of the bad ui and bad refresh rate. However samsung build quality is really good. Motorola front screen is super awesome compared to flip 5 larger screen and buttery smooth refresh rate makes it super easy to use the front screen, however the build quality is crap lots of creeks here and there.
I got the z flip 5, but feel like I made the wrong choice.
You made a smaller screan choice
For Samsung, I recommend downloading goodlock for the compatibility of other applications on the folded screen
So do these have screen protectora and cases? I cant have a phone without that!
Yes, they do.
Motorola comes standard with screen protectors which it will remind you often not to remove initially. There are more than a few cases out there, often with integrated stands.
Moto is much better, I'm using both. Also Moto has 144Hz and 165Hz not 120Hz.
It was hard to decide to pickup one so I bought both 😂 but I wish Motorola have faster wireless charging 😅
Having used both, which phone would you recommend for someone clumsy like me? Which phone do u think is more durable?
@@aryannegi3670 it’s hard to decide but I like more Motorola I think because battery is better
I love my flip. 5 it's amazing, it have a snapdragon 8 gen 2 cpu, Only I wish it had a 6.9 screen like Motorola.
Moto outer screen has big bezel on the top. The screen is actually smaller than the flip. You forgot to mention and show that on this video
Good point. Thanks for pointing that out. I totally missed that. Something to keep in mind when making my decision.
I loved my Z Flip while it lasted, just bought the Razr Plus to give it a shot since I don't like the Samsung skin they put on the operating system. So non intuitive, it drove me away
I got my Razor Ultra for 812€ that is VAT included, a great Black Friday Week deal. The Flip 5 never crossed my mind as the front screen from the Razor is far superior. The camera is very good, I'm a private user and make some pictures, for me it is perfect. The 5 W wireless charge are fine as well. Over night is just is on the charging station and it is full in the morning. Due to the fact that you use over 50% the small front screen, the batterylife is awsome. I haven't noticed any issues because it is a last gen CPU, seriously who would notice?
Is this a good gaming phone
@@AlejandroP1980s I play some casual games on it and have nothing to complain
Samsung display flicker issue ☠️⚰️ rip 👁️
The Samsung is over hyped. The Razr is the best phone.
Codes the Samsung has a dex? Can you do dex vs. ready comparison for both?
Sadly the Z Flip 5 doesn't have DEX...
Sadly the Z Flip 5 doesn't have DEX...
I'd buy this phone mainly for the outer screen usability, and there the Motorola wins hands down. Full stop. Cameras on both are rather really bad, and as for 4 year updates in probably going you change in 3 years or less so Motorola wins again and again. Yeah samsung is good, but i want and need this phone for compact outer screen. Motorola can run almost any app on the outer screen but Sammy is really limited to only a few widgets. Motorola is getting my money this time. Roll on the RAZR
!! Do not buy one of these phones!! Unless you sincerely don't not care about wasting money. It's not a question of if the screen will break, no it's how fast will it break..... It's 100% unpredictable. Then you can forget about it because the parts and repair are ((very)) expensive. Don't buy one trust me this is my second foldable....it lasted (3 days) !!!!!!!!!!! Save yourself 👍
funny how people just ignore when samsung has design flaws. if this was apple people would be all over it
Sent back the flip 5 for the motorola
-Custom gestures should enable users to enter text, perform music, or play console/PC quality games
-Each screen should be a combination of LCD, translucent LED, and epaper displays
-Modules should be supported, even if only on the part with no screen, for example:
*A refreshable Braille display (even if just one character)
*A magnetic/body heat charger that works through waterproof cases
*A camera/projector (even if not the solid-state optical phased array kind)
*A solid-state thermal and/or directional speaker
-Support for arm/wrist straps/tool bracelets may be better off built in
Flip 5 is sturdier.. dropped it twice and absolutely no scratch!
The 60 outside is fine. Screen is to small to really have it and it eats more battery. So I think it was a much smarter move. The main screen is the thing that is the most important.
No,it's just excuse because Samsung doesn't have 120hz cover screen It's like you own a Ferrari and other people complain on V8 gas economy!!
Objectively Motorola really nailed in looks and overall design of flip phone compare to Samsung.
@@dado380 sure but it comes for a cost of battery life and much worse cameras and older chip and less software updates. Those are a lot of sacrifice for a tiny screen to have 120 hrz. Really not a big deal it doesn't has it. U use the inner screen way more anyway. So I really don't see the issue. IPhone 15 doesn't has 120 on their phones and they only have one screen and can't flip fold. Just saying.
I worked ten hours today. Had Spotify going all day plus two half hour breaks and for 1 hour heavy use this morning and now I'm using it still not charged it yet . And we are at 37 percent. Easy to say this or that when you don't know or even really care. How could you with all that iPhone 12 I mean 13 I mean 14 I mean 15 meat all up in your throat. My boy got the iPhone 15 a few days ago😅 its a 12 with a few updates y'all are dumb as hell . I'm gonna take his phone and turn it upside down and sell it for double cause it's now a iPhone 16 flip upside down side. Trust me bro. The 15 is better than the 14 you can't tell you just know. It's gotta be. It's not a 14 it's a 15.
@@dword492 Now that is an impressive word salad.
Can we talk through mic option will speaking on a call through cover screen on both the phones. ?
Yes
In my honest opinion Samsung can keep the photo of the sky blue, and the tree green tho compare than The Razr 40
These videos sound like ads for Apple devices, but often fail to acknowledge that many "new" iOS features have been available on Android for years. With an Android, there really is very little limitation in what you can do given the time and energy to learn your options and take advantage of them. Everything on my Android devices is fully automated, including my keyboard shortcuts and predictions, and I use quick gestures rather than icons to do everything.The result is that using Android is much faster and easier than using an Apple device, and the time savings are significant - not to mention that my devices look great and the customizations are wholly unique. My business generates more income with Android because of these time savings - and my employees are happy with their own unique personalization on their devices. No one who has experienced these benefits of Android would switch to iOS simply because it isn't worth the additional time input Apple devices require (and time really is money), but also because of the associated aggravations and frustration. This said, though, many people do want a device that is simple and easy to use out of the box, and many are happy when their device looks and functions like those of everyone around them. For these people, and others who lack vision and creativity, Apple fulfills a need.
Shouldnt cost be factored in... moto way cheaper?
Can someone tell me the difference between the Moto razr 40 and the 40 ultra except for the design? ❤
can you talk with both of them closed?
I know for sure you can with the razr
I'm still waiting for the Google Pixel Flip. Fingers crossed they steal the best features from Samsung and Motorola, and offer superior battery life.
My Z Flip 4 already feels dated. Sigh.
i dont understand which one to buy flips mobile
mkay, that's a pass on foldable phones. thought if they were out long enough they would have improved by now, and able to justify their existence.
The lack of dex Support is the whole reason I never bought a flip from Samsung
Of course Samsung Z Flip 5 ،، New processor and great user experience.
Gen 1 has fatal flaw of overheating and battery drain issues. Nope.
Now that i have used both I genuenly don`t understand how anyone could even considder the samsung, the screens feel like absolute garbage to touch.
Razr!
Been iPhone been fold 2/4_ flip 3 I was iPhone 15 pro max but returned and got flip 5 come on
Samsung flip 5 is far better than motorola
Can you review teeth whitening products?
Watching this on my zflip5
Hi great phone
Cludginess? I'll just look that one up..😂👌
Try the Oppo once
The one thing that makes the Razr+ superior is that it has support for Ready For unlike the Z Flip 5 which doesn't support Dex.
Despite that, I'd choose the Z Flip 5 solely because of the 4 years of software updates plus One UI's mind blowing customization options.
Motorola is pretty slow with the updates. I'm just now getting Novembers security patch in mid January. God knows how long it'll take to get Android 14.
I am not sure foldables will ever be popular the cheaper ones are full of compromises and the more expensive can cost more than a MacBook. Plus friends and family i know that are super careful with they phones has reported you are lucky if it lasts 9 months before the screen breaks
As good as they both look, I'm planning to wait for the next gen to see what Moto learns from their first foldable.
EDIT: First foldable with a large external display.
@@GH0STST4RSCR34M Yes, I should've said first foldable with a large external screen.
@@GH0STST4RSCR34M Nope, I was referring to Razor+ which has a looks to have much better build quality and larger, more useful external display vs the previous generations.
I'm curious if Moto will up their camera game with the next Razr+...
Fatally flawed ?? lol
Please change the microfon, it is impossible to watch this video because of the sound quality.
i got the razor last week im probally gonna sell for 500 get the s23 ultra dont like the flip
Question: Do you color your eyebrows?
With Good Lock installed the Z Flip outer screen is perfect (who the &^*$ would try and use maps with it?). Every comparison of these phones chooses the Z flip.
Weird sounding chap...like A I. 🤨
ill never buy one of this
Motorola muito melhor.