Thanks so much for watching! We had fun with this one, though we needed a break which is why it took a couple weeks, big thanks to our patrons for being so cool about it and supporting us while we dealt with 4+ years of YT burnout. I would LOVE to hear your thoughts on this movie, like i said, it's a bit of a Rorschach test, you kinda get what you get out of it. We'll be back next week with another awesome video about some weird shit we fell in love with, hope to see you there! -Mike
reincarnation is christian to but the bible says at the end of time we all come back at the same time we dont go to heaven heaven and earth unite was a cool vid man
Bonsai Pop Not sure if I spelled the anime right, but you should do a video on the Monogatari series, especially on the focus of Oddities!~ I’d like to see something for it.
So basically the male lead is god he saw humanity messing with technology that shouldn't be created (eye ship) he failed to prevent it and is now going around destroying people's faite cause he doent deserve it and most likely faite will lead them to a horrible fate of becoming part of the eye ship
mike, wow the content is always consistently deep, if you ever need someone to help you with advice on manga creation or with a manga then im the man for that, im an up and coming manga artist, if i ever forget about this comment then remind me as soon as you can, im busy but you know what i will get around to it bonsaipop, i dont care what anybody says about you, you at bonsaipop are alright in my book. im sorry can we talk about this somewhere else. check my SamuraiReflection deviantart page out. lets talk first actually. a lot. you guys are cool.
@@Watch-0w1 i guess modern symbolic pieces like Flip Flappers and Mononoke dont matter then? Modern anime isnt trash youre just too much of a lazy bitch to look past the popular drivel to find any of it Stop following trends and search for specific directors
So Angel's Egg is one of my top 5 animes of all-time. It is raw, powerful and beautiful. Sometimes evoking emotions is enough to leave us with an indelible lifelong impression. We might not be able to sort out exactly the intent, or the message but we surely know how it makes us feel. That is undeniable.
My interpretation is this movie is basically a huge allegory for the fact that everybody it's basically floating through life thinking they have a purpose. But in reality and at the end of the day we don't end up doing what makes us happy we end up doing what we're good at to just get by.
Everything is about you, eh? Back in ye olden times, we 20th Century types interpreted it as the Man liberating the girl from a ritual-based belief system. The Man is Christ within the Protestant conception of Christian faith and the girl is the Catholic conception of Christianity. Is Christianity about faith or ritual adherence to deeds?
I think it's a warning not to go about life without purpose. The man is a missionary sent to remove idols of local religions and replace them with God and Christianity, but he forgot about God and the reason for his mission long ago, so he goes to place to place removing idols which he believes to be false, without replacing them with God (because he forgot God). At the end of the movie it's revealed that God is gone, or dead, and that the man destroyed a girl's life, sacrificing the last of his humanity, in the name of a mission which he doesn't understand the reason for anymore. He was questioning his mission and avoiding the thought that he'd have to destroy this girls egg, until she showed him the fossil of the angel/bird, which he took as a sign that the story of Noah was true, and his mission is for a reason. In other words, he followed his religion with blind faith for so long that God left, and he continued to follow his mission long after, even when it was ruining his own life and also the life of an innocent girl. And by doing so he ended up ironically committing evil acts in the name of a God he doesn't remember. His faith is blind as much as the girls was. He shatters her faith, ruining her life in order to preserve his faith that his missionary work is for a good cause, and it costs him his humanity.
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“Once upon a time, I dreamt I was a butterfly, fluttering hither and thither, to all intents and purposes a butterfly. I was conscious only of my happiness as a butterfly, unaware that I was myself. Soon I awaked, and there I was, veritably myself again. Now I do not know whether I was then a man dreaming I was a butterfly, or whether I am now a butterfly, dreaming I am a man.” Zhuangzi
Its tough to digest Angels egg on its own, but given the context of its creation (let alone what was created because of it) definitely helped me appreciate the nuances more. Great vid, even if I struggled to get through the film itself, I appreciate that it exists for what it is, ESPECIALLY for what it has inspired.
It's a damn shame that TH-cam's algorithm favours the "Trending" shows so much. Don't get me wrong, I don't hate mainstream anime, in fact I love a good chunk of them. It's just that I already know, or at least know of those shows. They are advertised relentlessly and recommended everywhere by everyone. The fact that you guys focus mostly on more older and lesser known shows that most people have either forgotten or never heard of is exactly the reason I subscribed to you. I love seeing what hidden gem I have never seen or heard of that you guys will be recommending every week, and I love hearing your opinions and personal insight for every single one. Thanks to you I was able to discover and enjoy Ninja Scroll and Wicked City. I made darn sure to add other shows and films you guys talked about to my watchlist. I will definitely be watching Angel's Egg as soon as I can! So keep doing what you do, and I look forward to the next hidden gems you recommend in the future!
I really hope anime industry goes back to those more thought provoking, psychological/psychological horror, type of films and shows. Current industry’s is just flooded with repetitive shit. It honestly put me off from watching anime for awhile I was able to predict what was going to happen almost every time.
Art is a manifestation of the unconscious mind. What I love about this film is the experience of watching it and not needing to know what it's about, enjoying it for what it is.
This is so interesting and horrifying in a good way? As a person of faith, (I dont consider myself religious tho because of the dangers and evils of blind faith and sharpening religion to be a weapon against our fellow humans) I love having these types of conversations with friends and family. And even though it can be scary to talk about, it can also be really eye opening and thought provoking. Thank you for making content like this and for never giving one-sided thoughts or opinions. I love listening to and watching your breakdowns of anime and its various themes
@@KH-nk8ry it’s definitely something I’m still working on. These last three years have done a number on holding that mirror in front of myself. I personally believe in a god of some kind still, but I feel like religion has done nothing but harm others. It takes time to deconstruct, and I apologize if you found my comment ignorant. I don’t exactly know if there’s a way you’d like me to respond to this, but I still really liked this video back then for the thoughtfulness and the deep-dive it does into its meanings if you actually LOOK.
Should any question whether anime can be fine art, you just have to point them to Angel's Egg. Excellent video, Mike, and many props for putting up a video that may not be considered "popular" by the usual YT anime standards.
You definitely have to mention that this was hand-drawn in 1985. Then they can appreciate every single frame- AND every meticulously animated hair on her head. :0 it's art in every way, and it has more depth every time you revisit it.
Even as a Christian, I can appreciate the messages in this beautiful work. We are what we are given in this life and even if you don’t believe in God, you can still improve yourself, for your own benefit. Weather or not you break the egg, weather or not there is something inside of it, either way you make of it what you will. Peace and love y’all👍🏾
People who don’t believe in heaven have no reason to fear death. Bc if you believe in heaven when you wake you’ll be looking back at your life. If you don’t believe in heaven when you die you won’t be looking back on anything. So you should just worry on what you’ll be looking back on while you’re alive, you know, making the most of the present. Which is a sentiment I believe either side can support
@@SchlaftaterNrzZz cause the whole point of the movie was to illustrate what losing ones faith is like. And what I said was to the effect of “even as a person who still holds the convictions that the director talks about losing”. I probably could’ve phrased it better but eh🤷🏾♂️
Angel's egg is a piece of art that is painfully incomprehensible on a first watch, and yet after that first watch I was overwhelmed with emotion. Watching it instils existential angst and sadness that you can't fully explain without time to process it. Its beautiful
Art doesn't need a reason to exist, and that definitely is exemplified in this movie. I watched it before and didn't quite get it until this video essay. Great job in the analysis and explanation! As a Christian, I also see something more than existential dread of the unknown in this work. I also see a lack of consequence for one's actions. Needlessly throwing spears to catch nothing. Breaking an egg that doesn't belong to the guy and nothing really changing for the destroyer. A world devoid of meaning and reason. When a person adopts the idea that there is no afterlife, they also adopt the idea that life loses meaning, too. The existence of an afterlife means there are further consequences for what you do during life (ie: a murderer crossing paths with those they murdered). It would be interesting to see a sequel in order to follow the artist's life journey.
Something in absolute nihilism feels so calming to me. Things happen. Good ones and horrible ones. There is nothing you can do to stop them. Sometimes they happen to you but a vast majority happens to someone other. Just let it happen. There is nothing you can do so there is no fault in not worrying about it. I do like to try and make more good and less bad things happen. Makes the world a little bit better for times to come. But. In the end it's meaningless too. It still feels like the right thing to do. And it's meaningless to not do it.
Yeah, this is legitimately one of the greatest films ever made. My favorite aspect of it is that Mamoru Oshii said he doesn't know what it's about. And the fact that it's illustrated by Yoshitaka Amano really brings it to another level. Whenever I recommend it, I just tell people it was inspired by the creator's loss of faith in Christianity. I think that little bit of backstory is very important and all you really need. To me, this is a movie you don't necessarily need to understand intellectually or know exactly what is literally happening in the film. Just feeling it and feeling that it's meaningful is enough. I've seen it three or four times and every time I feel I 'understand' it more and more, but less in a way of 'this is what it means objectively' and more of I understand more and more what it means to me, and what my interpretation is. Really just a beautiful and mesmerizing film. My one hope is to see it in a theater.
Angel's Egg is one of those pieces of media that you really benefit by coming back to it again and again at different points in your life. It seems to change as you do.
I stumbled upon this film by accident when I looked up obscure 80's anime, and as I watched it I thought to myself "this film is too smart for me." Your video helped me understand it a bit more, but I am also glad that I shared many insights on the film that you had. I still don't know what I feel about this film. I think it left me empty and I feel nothing, but that's also what I think the film is trying to impart. This was a really good video. Thank you for making it.
Beginning of the video: You should REALLY watch this movie first before going through this video. Me: Okay. Me after watching Angel's Egg: wHaT DiD i JuSt WaTcH?! Seriously though, it's eerie how much this movie gripped my heart and soul. Coming back to this video gave me some much-needed context, though I'm glad it wasn't just me that I was detecting the brush of Lovecraftian nihilism with every long, silent second that passed through this movie. How I saw SO MUCH of myself in the man that accompanied that girl, and so much of my sister in her. How I actually broke down and wept for that girl when she wailed in agony that her egg was crushed. I normally gravitate to movies that would have been part of the Sci-Fi channel line-up, though I honestly have no memory of this ever being on tv. I honestly was more ready for Akira as a small child than I was this movie. I was not meant to watch it till I was older, more jaded, and searching for meaning. in '85, we had Angel's Egg and Vampire Hunter D. Today, we have The Misfit of Demon King Academy. I feel like I don't even know you anymore, Japan. But Angel's Egg is a gift.
Anime don’t use that degree of lonely negative space nearly enough. The game Xenogears made amazing use of this in the final dungeon, boss, and cutscenes. It’s one of my favorite aesthetics.
About Lovecraft, as far as I remember the meaning behind Azathoth was to fill in the place for the reader. Like he meant that the story cannot exist without someone reading it, all of it only exist in our fantasies and our dreams while we read the story. Thus we (the reader) are Azathoth the universe of the story exists within us. We are all the pieces of the blind and idiot god, that is why it is a jumbled mess of horrific appendages because that is how humanity looks like when looked from the perspective of one deeply fearful and isolated individual that Lovecraft was. The ultimate irony of a god that has ultimate power but it just wants to sleep and be entertained by whatever and never wants to wake up to the horrific truths of life.
At some point I remember one of my friends bringing up the point that we don’t know if we really exist or if everything’s just and illusion. At first, I really struggled with it because hey what if we DON’T exist? What happens then? But after several years, we started talking about different philosophies and faiths in history class. After that, I eventually learned that it doesn’t have to matter whether or not we exist, because everything feels real enough. Sure, one day the beast that has created us in it’s dream may wake up and I’ll be nothing more than a forgotten memory, but what about right now? Even if it’s all fake, I have things I like, things I want to do, people I want to meet. So what if there’s no real purpose in life? I’ll just make one myself.
There’s a Nietzschian aspect to this too. If the egg represents faith, then when the man crushes the egg it’s like killing god. It’s significant that the egg isn’t lost. It’s destroyed on purpose.
Since this film landed in my lucky hands as a teenager, every time it comes to mind it is an enigma. All I know is that I felt so much. Feeling, but not knowing is what made this film make sense for me.
I downloaded this movie maybe ? 10 years ago?? It's still unwatched, there's so much to watch. But this makes me want to sit down and actually finally watch it
FANTASTIC video! I've been a fan of this anime since 96 and have shown it to many friends and family and love discussing it. Keep up the great work on your videos. Thank you
Another interesting thing to note is that in the ending, when we zoom out and see that the island is the overturned ark, we the audience can see what it is, but from the characters perspective, its impossible they figure it out.
Your words so eloquently captured this film. I think I enjoyed watching you unpack your thoughts almost as much as I enjoyed watching the art of this film I have yet to see. Keep up the good work.
Great analysis of this unique masterpiece, a film that defies any reasonable explanation or interpretation. However, as a Rorschach test, I've always found a hopeful message of ultimately letting go of your constraints, symbolised by the Egg, in order to fulfil your true potential, symbolised by the 'hatching' scenes at the end of the movie with the falling feathers and breaking through the surface of the water.
The atmosphere in this video is so crazy! The fromsoftware music with the analysis of this dreadful and yet mysteriously beautiful movie is just too fucking crazy. Honestly Bonsai Pop you guys knocked it out of the park with this one👌🏽☝🏽
I remember watching this a year ago when I was so fucking high I didn't even know what was going on, and then I had to re watch it again the next day cause I couldn't get the imagery out of my mind, so I re watched it again next day and still came out of it being confused, but at least I got the chance of re watching this beautiful film.
I don't know if you'll get to read this, Bonsai Pop, but man. Really, you guys deserve all the support in the world. All the best to you. I love all the content you produce.
When one soul seeks beyond one's self into what lies in the dark universe. This reminds me of the creator Neon Genesis Evangelion going through an existential crisis. A Japanese Salaryman is forced by the self, and society, to not look into the abyss of the universe.
Got around to finally watching this masterpiece earlier today after watching this video, imo this video served as a super well needed piece of context for a work so surreal and dream like in it’s presentation. I absolutely loved the movie and really enjoyed seeing some of the very clear inspiration from soft games like darksouls and bloodborne took from angels egg. This video really pushed me to watch this awesome piece of cinema but also gave me a bit of a guided lens to view it from. So i’m definitely happy i check out this video
I watched Angel's Egg cause I randomly found it here on TH-cam. I miss art anime. Yeah once and a while we'll get something now, but we'll never get something as grand as this that isn't indie/
I'll never forget staying up late and randomly finding this movie on Kissanime And watching this in the dark Had no idea what this movie is and I only planned to watch a few minutes of it...the more I watched, the more I was blown away and next thing I know its one of my fav anime movies of all time
That wasn't his cat. It was his grandfather Whipple Van Buren Phillips' cat. By the time Lovecraft was an adult the cat was long dead. The famous picture of him with a cat is actually of him holding a friend and fellow writer of his cat.
It is interesting as I always saw the "over turned arc" in the shape of a single grain of short grain race. As if the show is saying as much philosophizing as one may be doing; all that work is perhaps only as valuable as a single grain of rice.
Yoshitaka Amano was the character designer for the classic Science Ninja Team Gatchaman, known mostly as the heavily-censored, Battle of the Planets. He also worked on Tekkaman the Space Knight, & Genesis Climber MOSPEADA, known as Robotech: The New Generation. The man was basically one of the architects of my youth!
Glad I found your channel! I’m a huge fan of Yoshitaka Amanos art and learned about Angels Egg because I looked up his work. Can’t wait to binge what else you’ve covered!
I woke up ready for a fun day with toddler cousins, celebrating a birthday. After watching this and waking up to rain, I now want to watch everything burn and question it.
Hey Mike! Took me a couple days to get through it but i finally got to watch this GREAT video. You did awesome job reviewing this film. I took something completely different from the story but still enjoyed your perspective. Thanks for expressing your personal experiences with faith and dread, I do however, challenge you to dig deeper into those topics. That's a video I will surely watch on day it's uploaded ;) thanks for your hard work.
I was introduced to Angel's Egg and Evangelion from my Cousin...... I don't know how I am even a functioning adult after experiencing some crazy shit like this. This movie still baffles me and amazes me with art alone. The story is just so mind boggling its fascinating
I remember watching this for the first time at age 12 oddly enough late night on adult swim and it was both weird as fuck and beautiful XD! Now having played bloodborne and all the dark souls games it's crazy to think that this played a roll in inspiring the creation of those games.
Love this film I'm so happy you did a video on it. I can firmly say that I've gotten a whole new perspective on the film now and I find that wonderful. Keep up the amazing work!
Some of the imagery and dialogue (and ideas related to that) also made me think of Revolutionary Girl Utena. The Ohtori Student Council’s mantra about breaking the world’s shell in order to revolutionize the world is a direct reference to this line from Herman Hesse’s Demian: “The bird fights its way out of the egg. The egg is the world. Who would be born must first destroy a world. The bird flies to God. That God’s name is Abraxas.” The man in Angel’s Egg tells the story of the dove with the addendum about the bird never returning then smashes the egg, only to reveal nothing inside. RGU also utilized the tree imagery within the duelist’s arena as a central focus as well as in the elevator when Anthy disappears and branches sprout forth from the floor, lifting her uniform aloft as if she were still wearing it... Is Anthy the dreamer? Is Utena the dream? I could go on, but I’ll spare you for now... 😅
I knew of this movie and that it inspired dark souls/bloodborne themes. what i DIDN'T expect is to find Final Fantasy 14 elements inspired by it too! (it's in the latest expansion Endwalker, so I wont say anything more, but if you know you know :D) Amano-san you sneaky brilliant artist!
fucking hell man cracking eggs like splayin legs with this wordplay you slay with these videos. fucking nailed it with this anime.. it's a beautiful thing that you definetly resonate with in the same way I do.. it's got you a fuckin thumbs up and a rock on 👍🤟
I watched this year's ago and didn't get it at all. Was strange and intriguing but your video has shed some light on it. Loving your channel, please keep up the good work. Just patroned you so 🤗
Question: Is it only through a director’s or creator’s mental and/or belief instability that we are able to experience a piece of media that can be put into an endless amount of interpretations?
Thanks so much for watching! We had fun with this one, though we needed a break which is why it took a couple weeks, big thanks to our patrons for being so cool about it and supporting us while we dealt with 4+ years of YT burnout. I would LOVE to hear your thoughts on this movie, like i said, it's a bit of a Rorschach test, you kinda get what you get out of it. We'll be back next week with another awesome video about some weird shit we fell in love with, hope to see you there!
-Mike
small correction" it's "Tenshi no tamago"
Just putting it out there cuz "tenchi no tamago" doesn't show up on MAL.
reincarnation is christian to but the bible says at the end of time we all come back at the same time we dont go to heaven heaven and earth unite was a cool vid man
Bonsai Pop Not sure if I spelled the anime right, but you should do a video on the Monogatari series, especially on the focus of Oddities!~ I’d like to see something for it.
So basically the male lead is god he saw humanity messing with technology that shouldn't be created (eye ship) he failed to prevent it and is now going around destroying people's faite cause he doent deserve it and most likely faite will lead them to a horrible fate of becoming part of the eye ship
mike, wow the content is always consistently deep, if you ever need someone to help you with advice on manga creation or with a manga then im the man for that, im an up and coming manga artist, if i ever forget about this comment then remind me as soon as you can, im busy but you know what i will get around to it bonsaipop, i dont care what anybody says about you, you at bonsaipop are alright in my book. im sorry can we talk about this somewhere else. check my SamuraiReflection deviantart page out. lets talk first actually. a lot. you guys are cool.
That scream hits and haunts you for years. Holy shit, I've gotta watch this.
Its on TH-cam.
How did it go?
How did you know it would haunt you for years if you hadn't watched it yet? And yeah, give us an update, are you haunted? Speak up, fool.
@@versebuchanan512 he was talking about the scream haunting him.. and ur acting all internet tough guy over a 2y old comment . 🤣
@@Zeeboklown No, I'm not trying to be tough, I wanna know if he's still haunted. He hasn't answered me, I'm worried about him
9:50 the revelation of the anthropomorphic angel is one of the creepiest and eerie things I have ever witnessed on screen
Dude, crazy, I was just watching this the other night. Ive had it on VHS for 30 years. (Yeah, I'm a very very old school anime fan)
Coincidence, I don’t know. Hotel, Trivago.😂
Old school anime best unlike today trash
@@Watch-0w1 Preach...
@@Watch-0w1 i guess modern symbolic pieces like Flip Flappers and Mononoke dont matter then?
Modern anime isnt trash youre just too much of a lazy bitch to look past the popular drivel to find any of it
Stop following trends and search for specific directors
@@otakuparadise3585 o yes I love those And attack on titan and parasite. They hidden gem under the rubber of trashy moe and fanservice
So Angel's Egg is one of my top 5 animes of all-time. It is raw, powerful and beautiful. Sometimes evoking emotions is enough to leave us with an indelible lifelong impression. We might not be able to sort out exactly the intent, or the message but we surely know how it makes us feel. That is undeniable.
I won't say is top 5. Is a beautiful visual painting.
Like a painting , it have to plot just context
Whats the rest of your list?
@@UnkleKnuck MY top 5 anime movies.
Ninja Scroll 1993
Spirited Away
Tamala 2010 : A Punk Cat in Space
Cat Soup
Angels Egg
My interpretation is this movie is basically a huge allegory for the fact that everybody it's basically floating through life thinking they have a purpose. But in reality and at the end of the day we don't end up doing what makes us happy we end up doing what we're good at to just get by.
Everything is about you, eh? Back in ye olden times, we 20th Century types interpreted it as the Man liberating the girl from a ritual-based belief system. The Man is Christ within the Protestant conception of Christian faith and the girl is the Catholic conception of Christianity. Is Christianity about faith or ritual adherence to deeds?
@@superlive98 lol
FULLY AGREE
I think it's a warning not to go about life without purpose. The man is a missionary sent to remove idols of local religions and replace them with God and Christianity, but he forgot about God and the reason for his mission long ago, so he goes to place to place removing idols which he believes to be false, without replacing them with God (because he forgot God).
At the end of the movie it's revealed that God is gone, or dead, and that the man destroyed a girl's life, sacrificing the last of his humanity, in the name of a mission which he doesn't understand the reason for anymore.
He was questioning his mission and avoiding the thought that he'd have to destroy this girls egg, until she showed him the fossil of the angel/bird, which he took as a sign that the story of Noah was true, and his mission is for a reason.
In other words, he followed his religion with blind faith for so long that God left, and he continued to follow his mission long after, even when it was ruining his own life and also the life of an innocent girl. And by doing so he ended up ironically committing evil acts in the name of a God he doesn't remember. His faith is blind as much as the girls was. He shatters her faith, ruining her life in order to preserve his faith that his missionary work is for a good cause, and it costs him his humanity.
“Once upon a time, I dreamt I was a butterfly, fluttering hither and thither, to all intents and purposes a butterfly. I was conscious only of my happiness as a butterfly, unaware that I was myself. Soon I awaked, and there I was, veritably myself again. Now I do not know whether I was then a man dreaming I was a butterfly, or whether I am now a butterfly, dreaming I am a man.”
Zhuangzi
Watched this animated film because of Dark Souls 3.
@@Outarel well that's the point, it's not just a braindead movie you can casually watch, you need to actually think about what you're watching
i did it becausr hollow knight
@Matthew Bratcher same here.
Thats awesome
Same. I've never heard of this movie, till I found the references in Dark Souls
Its tough to digest Angels egg on its own, but given the context of its creation (let alone what was created because of it) definitely helped me appreciate the nuances more. Great vid, even if I struggled to get through the film itself, I appreciate that it exists for what it is, ESPECIALLY for what it has inspired.
1 minute in and I'm already sold. You've got a way with words brotha! Keep it up.
It's a damn shame that TH-cam's algorithm favours the "Trending" shows so much. Don't get me wrong, I don't hate mainstream anime, in fact I love a good chunk of them. It's just that I already know, or at least know of those shows. They are advertised relentlessly and recommended everywhere by everyone. The fact that you guys focus mostly on more older and lesser known shows that most people have either forgotten or never heard of is exactly the reason I subscribed to you. I love seeing what hidden gem I have never seen or heard of that you guys will be recommending every week, and I love hearing your opinions and personal insight for every single one. Thanks to you I was able to discover and enjoy Ninja Scroll and Wicked City. I made darn sure to add other shows and films you guys talked about to my watchlist. I will definitely be watching Angel's Egg as soon as I can! So keep doing what you do, and I look forward to the next hidden gems you recommend in the future!
I really hope anime industry goes back to those more thought provoking, psychological/psychological horror, type of films and shows. Current industry’s is just flooded with repetitive shit. It honestly put me off from watching anime for awhile I was able to predict what was going to happen almost every time.
Art is a manifestation of the unconscious mind. What I love about this film is the experience of watching it and not needing to know what it's about, enjoying it for what it is.
This is so interesting and horrifying in a good way? As a person of faith, (I dont consider myself religious tho because of the dangers and evils of blind faith and sharpening religion to be a weapon against our fellow humans) I love having these types of conversations with friends and family. And even though it can be scary to talk about, it can also be really eye opening and thought provoking. Thank you for making content like this and for never giving one-sided thoughts or opinions. I love listening to and watching your breakdowns of anime and its various themes
Christian who isn't religious? How does one who belongs to a religion claim they're not religious exactly?
Because "religious" people killed Jesus Christ
@@solsupernova9706 which religious people exactly 🤔
I feel the same way, I just never could put words to it.
@@KH-nk8ry it’s definitely something I’m still working on. These last three years have done a number on holding that mirror in front of myself. I personally believe in a god of some kind still, but I feel like religion has done nothing but harm others. It takes time to deconstruct, and I apologize if you found my comment ignorant. I don’t exactly know if there’s a way you’d like me to respond to this, but I still really liked this video back then for the thoughtfulness and the deep-dive it does into its meanings if you actually LOOK.
Should any question whether anime can be fine art, you just have to point them to Angel's Egg.
Excellent video, Mike, and many props for putting up a video that may not be considered "popular" by the usual YT anime standards.
You definitely have to mention that this was hand-drawn in 1985. Then they can appreciate every single frame- AND every meticulously animated hair on her head. :0 it's art in every way, and it has more depth every time you revisit it.
Even as a Christian, I can appreciate the messages in this beautiful work. We are what we are given in this life and even if you don’t believe in God, you can still improve yourself, for your own benefit. Weather or not you break the egg, weather or not there is something inside of it, either way you make of it what you will. Peace and love y’all👍🏾
People who don’t believe in heaven have no reason to fear death. Bc if you believe in heaven when you wake you’ll be looking back at your life. If you don’t believe in heaven when you die you won’t be looking back on anything. So you should just worry on what you’ll be looking back on while you’re alive, you know, making the most of the present. Which is a sentiment I believe either side can support
Kevin Thornton jr love this comment
Empty egg, empty tomb.
What does "even as a christian" mean
@@SchlaftaterNrzZz cause the whole point of the movie was to illustrate what losing ones faith is like. And what I said was to the effect of “even as a person who still holds the convictions that the director talks about losing”. I probably could’ve phrased it better but eh🤷🏾♂️
Saw this and Akira in the same week when I was five. That might explain some things.
I love these types of films. Hidden gems that allow you to interpret it through your own personal lens.
I really get the Dark Souls/Bloodborne feels from this...and the music fits really well.
That IS dark souls and bloodborne music
we must break the egg. and face reality.
it is the end of time. and gale must give us the dark soul.
Angel's egg is a piece of art that is painfully incomprehensible on a first watch, and yet after that first watch I was overwhelmed with emotion. Watching it instils existential angst and sadness that you can't fully explain without time to process it. Its beautiful
Art doesn't need a reason to exist, and that definitely is exemplified in this movie. I watched it before and didn't quite get it until this video essay. Great job in the analysis and explanation!
As a Christian, I also see something more than existential dread of the unknown in this work. I also see a lack of consequence for one's actions. Needlessly throwing spears to catch nothing. Breaking an egg that doesn't belong to the guy and nothing really changing for the destroyer. A world devoid of meaning and reason. When a person adopts the idea that there is no afterlife, they also adopt the idea that life loses meaning, too. The existence of an afterlife means there are further consequences for what you do during life (ie: a murderer crossing paths with those they murdered).
It would be interesting to see a sequel in order to follow the artist's life journey.
Something in absolute nihilism feels so calming to me. Things happen. Good ones and horrible ones. There is nothing you can do to stop them. Sometimes they happen to you but a vast majority happens to someone other. Just let it happen. There is nothing you can do so there is no fault in not worrying about it.
I do like to try and make more good and less bad things happen. Makes the world a little bit better for times to come. But. In the end it's meaningless too. It still feels like the right thing to do. And it's meaningless to not do it.
Im really thankful for you guys digging up this obscure gems, some of then are so outlandish that a doubt remembering it, felt like a feverish dream.
This fear of unknown or cosmic horror is best thing about Berserk and Lovecraft's stories. And now you introduce Angel's egg to me.
Yeah, this is legitimately one of the greatest films ever made. My favorite aspect of it is that Mamoru Oshii said he doesn't know what it's about. And the fact that it's illustrated by Yoshitaka Amano really brings it to another level. Whenever I recommend it, I just tell people it was inspired by the creator's loss of faith in Christianity. I think that little bit of backstory is very important and all you really need. To me, this is a movie you don't necessarily need to understand intellectually or know exactly what is literally happening in the film. Just feeling it and feeling that it's meaningful is enough. I've seen it three or four times and every time I feel I 'understand' it more and more, but less in a way of 'this is what it means objectively' and more of I understand more and more what it means to me, and what my interpretation is. Really just a beautiful and mesmerizing film. My one hope is to see it in a theater.
One of my favorite films. Yoshitaka Amano is one of the artists that inspires me the most.
Excellent video!
Angel's Egg is one of those pieces of media that you really benefit by coming back to it again and again at different points in your life. It seems to change as you do.
i can see that. the egg must be broken.
one of the best movies of all time.
"Anatawa dare" has been engrained in my mind to this day years after I've watched it
I stumbled upon this film by accident when I looked up obscure 80's anime, and as I watched it I thought to myself "this film is too smart for me." Your video helped me understand it a bit more, but I am also glad that I shared many insights on the film that you had. I still don't know what I feel about this film. I think it left me empty and I feel nothing, but that's also what I think the film is trying to impart. This was a really good video. Thank you for making it.
Beginning of the video: You should REALLY watch this movie first before going through this video.
Me: Okay.
Me after watching Angel's Egg: wHaT DiD i JuSt WaTcH?!
Seriously though, it's eerie how much this movie gripped my heart and soul. Coming back to this video gave me some much-needed context, though I'm glad it wasn't just me that I was detecting the brush of Lovecraftian nihilism with every long, silent second that passed through this movie. How I saw SO MUCH of myself in the man that accompanied that girl, and so much of my sister in her. How I actually broke down and wept for that girl when she wailed in agony that her egg was crushed. I normally gravitate to movies that would have been part of the Sci-Fi channel line-up, though I honestly have no memory of this ever being on tv. I honestly was more ready for Akira as a small child than I was this movie. I was not meant to watch it till I was older, more jaded, and searching for meaning. in '85, we had Angel's Egg and Vampire Hunter D. Today, we have The Misfit of Demon King Academy. I feel like I don't even know you anymore, Japan. But Angel's Egg is a gift.
Anime don’t use that degree of lonely negative space nearly enough. The game Xenogears made amazing use of this in the final dungeon, boss, and cutscenes. It’s one of my favorite aesthetics.
Oh it's you the fate dude
About Lovecraft, as far as I remember the meaning behind Azathoth was to fill in the place for the reader. Like he meant that the story cannot exist without someone reading it, all of it only exist in our fantasies and our dreams while we read the story. Thus we (the reader) are Azathoth the universe of the story exists within us. We are all the pieces of the blind and idiot god, that is why it is a jumbled mess of horrific appendages because that is how humanity looks like when looked from the perspective of one deeply fearful and isolated individual that Lovecraft was. The ultimate irony of a god that has ultimate power but it just wants to sleep and be entertained by whatever and never wants to wake up to the horrific truths of life.
At some point I remember one of my friends bringing up the point that we don’t know if we really exist or if everything’s just and illusion. At first, I really struggled with it because hey what if we DON’T exist? What happens then? But after several years, we started talking about different philosophies and faiths in history class. After that, I eventually learned that it doesn’t have to matter whether or not we exist, because everything feels real enough. Sure, one day the beast that has created us in it’s dream may wake up and I’ll be nothing more than a forgotten memory, but what about right now? Even if it’s all fake, I have things I like, things I want to do, people I want to meet. So what if there’s no real purpose in life? I’ll just make one myself.
Dude, after watching this film I have the need of seeing another films like this.
There’s a Nietzschian aspect to this too. If the egg represents faith, then when the man crushes the egg it’s like killing god. It’s significant that the egg isn’t lost. It’s destroyed on purpose.
This anime was such a fever dream that goes deeper and deeper the more you understand, at least just a bit.
Since this film landed in my lucky hands as a teenager, every time it comes to mind it is an enigma. All I know is that I felt so much. Feeling, but not knowing is what made this film make sense for me.
I downloaded this movie maybe ? 10 years ago?? It's still unwatched, there's so much to watch. But this makes me want to sit down and actually finally watch it
In the zoom out scene at the end the whole village, the island itself is the capsized boat in the middle of an endless sea of nothing.
I literally watched this a week ago! It was gorgeous and haunting. I’m so happy you could cover it!!!
FANTASTIC video! I've been a fan of this anime since 96 and have shown it to many friends and family and love discussing it. Keep up the great work on your videos. Thank you
Another interesting thing to note is that in the ending, when we zoom out and see that the island is the overturned ark, we the audience can see what it is, but from the characters perspective, its impossible they figure it out.
Your words so eloquently captured this film. I think I enjoyed watching you unpack your thoughts almost as much as I enjoyed watching the art of this film I have yet to see. Keep up the good work.
Great analysis of this unique masterpiece, a film that defies any reasonable explanation or interpretation. However, as a Rorschach test, I've always found a hopeful message of ultimately letting go of your constraints, symbolised by the Egg, in order to fulfil your true potential, symbolised by the 'hatching' scenes at the end of the movie with the falling feathers and breaking through the surface of the water.
The atmosphere in this video is so crazy! The fromsoftware music with the analysis of this dreadful and yet mysteriously beautiful movie is just too fucking crazy. Honestly Bonsai Pop you guys knocked it out of the park with this one👌🏽☝🏽
Angel's Egg is like watching anime on an acid trip.
I remember watching this a year ago when I was so fucking high I didn't even know what was going on, and then I had to re watch it again the next day cause I couldn't get the imagery out of my mind, so I re watched it again next day and still came out of it being confused, but at least I got the chance of re watching this beautiful film.
I don't know if you'll get to read this, Bonsai Pop, but man. Really, you guys deserve all the support in the world. All the best to you. I love all the content you produce.
Bloodborne is what got me interested in H.P. Lovecraft. I guess Angel’s Egg is what inspired FromSoft to make Dark Souls and Bloodborne. Full circle?
This movie did not help with my death anxiety or my existential angst.
Also, the story of the windfish egg in the Legend of Zelda, Links Awakening has a VERY similar story line.
Link! You absolute BELL-END!
When one soul seeks beyond one's self into what lies in the dark universe. This reminds me of the creator Neon Genesis Evangelion going through an existential crisis. A Japanese Salaryman is forced by the self, and society, to not look into the abyss of the universe.
Got around to finally watching this masterpiece earlier today after watching this video, imo this video served as a super well needed piece of context for a work so surreal and dream like in it’s presentation. I absolutely loved the movie and really enjoyed seeing some of the very clear inspiration from soft games like darksouls and bloodborne took from angels egg.
This video really pushed me to watch this awesome piece of cinema but also gave me a bit of a guided lens to view it from. So i’m definitely happy i check out this video
music was gnarly on this one,dunno how you guys manage to create so much feeling with your choices
I watched Angel's Egg cause I randomly found it here on TH-cam. I miss art anime. Yeah once and a while we'll get something now, but we'll never get something as grand as this that isn't indie/
The egg phrase at the beginning reminded me of Revolutionary Girl Utena
I'll never forget staying up late and randomly finding this movie on Kissanime
And watching this in the dark
Had no idea what this movie is and I only planned to watch a few minutes of it...the more I watched, the more I was blown away and next thing I know its one of my fav anime movies of all time
Idk why but this anime makes me think of the anime E.Y.E.S. Of Mars
2:27 "Who are you?"
Is a trick question. It's being directed to the viewer.
*head explosion noises*
Neither of them ever answered, maybe neither of then even knew
it’s mind boggling to me that I had no idea this show existed
apparently Lovecraft realized he was wrong for being a rascist later in life, but that poor cat...
Cats don't know HUMAN XD
That wasn't his cat. It was his grandfather Whipple Van Buren Phillips' cat. By the time Lovecraft was an adult the cat was long dead. The famous picture of him with a cat is actually of him holding a friend and fellow writer of his cat.
I've heard of "Angel's Egg", knew it was an animated work but that was about it. Glad I watched your video, thanks.
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The dance party made it into the video. Awesome!
It is interesting as I always saw the "over turned arc" in the shape of a single grain of short grain race. As if the show is saying as much philosophizing as one may be doing; all that work is perhaps only as valuable as a single grain of rice.
Yoshitaka Amano was the character designer for the classic Science Ninja Team Gatchaman, known mostly as the heavily-censored, Battle of the Planets. He also worked on Tekkaman the Space Knight, & Genesis Climber MOSPEADA, known as Robotech: The New Generation. The man was basically one of the architects of my youth!
The quality of the content you guys are putting out is astounding. I am so glad to see you guys reach your potential and exceed it.
Glad I found your channel! I’m a huge fan of Yoshitaka Amanos art and learned about Angels Egg because I looked up his work. Can’t wait to binge what else you’ve covered!
The gruff of your voice definitely makes your vids worth listening to. Keep up the good work!!!
Such a good video, thanks so much! Angels Egg had me hooked since I first watched it, thanks for covering such a cool movie!
wonderfully analyzed, expertly told. New insights for me here. thank you.
There’s a new Netflix show “Ju-On Origins” that I absolutely cannot watch at night, but I think would be right up your alley.
I woke up ready for a fun day with toddler cousins, celebrating a birthday. After watching this and waking up to rain, I now want to watch everything burn and question it.
Hey Mike! Took me a couple days to get through it but i finally got to watch this GREAT video. You did awesome job reviewing this film. I took something completely different from the story but still enjoyed your perspective. Thanks for expressing your personal experiences with faith and dread, I do however, challenge you to dig deeper into those topics. That's a video I will surely watch on day it's uploaded ;) thanks for your hard work.
When he smashed the egg. It was like when Spike said “Bang.”
The Bloodborne music is SO fitting for a film like Angel's Egg
I think about this movie every so often. I've never seen anything quite like it.
I was introduced to Angel's Egg and Evangelion from my Cousin...... I don't know how I am even a functioning adult after experiencing some crazy shit like this. This movie still baffles me and amazes me with art alone. The story is just so mind boggling its fascinating
I remember watching this for the first time at age 12 oddly enough late night on adult swim and it was both weird as fuck and beautiful XD! Now having played bloodborne and all the dark souls games it's crazy to think that this played a roll in inspiring the creation of those games.
Love this film I'm so happy you did a video on it. I can firmly say that I've gotten a whole new perspective on the film now and I find that wonderful. Keep up the amazing work!
Some of the imagery and dialogue (and ideas related to that) also made me think of Revolutionary Girl Utena. The Ohtori Student Council’s mantra about breaking the world’s shell in order to revolutionize the world is a direct reference to this line from Herman Hesse’s Demian: “The bird fights its way out of the egg. The egg is the world. Who would be born must first destroy a world. The bird flies to God. That God’s name is Abraxas.” The man in Angel’s Egg tells the story of the dove with the addendum about the bird never returning then smashes the egg, only to reveal nothing inside. RGU also utilized the tree imagery within the duelist’s arena as a central focus as well as in the elevator when Anthy disappears and branches sprout forth from the floor, lifting her uniform aloft as if she were still wearing it... Is Anthy the dreamer? Is Utena the dream? I could go on, but I’ll spare you for now... 😅
That God's Name is ABRAXAS
The title of the StuCo Elevator Theme!
Utena is great book... The page count? ...CAN YOU EVEN KNOW?
man this channel deserves sow much more promotion and views.
Such a wonderful break down of the film, Mike.
"Man why did I think watching this at 12 am knowing full well I have a faith crisis was a good idea. "
Immediately subscribes*
Man your commentary is so articulate and captivating. Well done
I knew of this movie and that it inspired dark souls/bloodborne themes. what i DIDN'T expect is to find Final Fantasy 14 elements inspired by it too! (it's in the latest expansion Endwalker, so I wont say anything more, but if you know you know :D) Amano-san you sneaky brilliant artist!
Fun fact, this was originaly a Lupin III history but was so strange that was rejected and hayao miyasaki steep in and directed Castle of Cagiostlo.
Literally my favorite movie. So glad more people are starting to notice it.
One of my favs. Love seeing people review this movie .
Great video! I needed to hear what you guys wrote about this movie, cause i just watched it and i felt so confused and yet.. amazed.
Thank you!
fucking hell man cracking eggs like splayin legs with this wordplay you slay with these videos. fucking nailed it with this anime.. it's a beautiful thing that you definetly resonate with in the same way I do.. it's got you a fuckin thumbs up and a rock on 👍🤟
Pretty impressed with the video, and I never heard about this film. Its amazing and fits my genre of anime very well. Keep up the amazing work man. 😃
You make great anime analysis, love your channel ❤
I watched this year's ago and didn't get it at all. Was strange and intriguing but your video has shed some light on it.
Loving your channel, please keep up the good work. Just patroned you so 🤗
Thank you for putting people on this master piece
Bro this is a good episode! It brought chills to my spine lol. It scared me . Great job!
Watching this now...Thanks for this masterpiece my dude.
I've never been able to find this anime thank you for the scenes
This movie looks SO familiar to me. I swear I must have seen it many years ago, but I don't remember where......
Probably my favorite video you guys have done.
Question: Is it only through a director’s or creator’s mental and/or belief instability that we are able to experience a piece of media that can be put into an endless amount of interpretations?