An Undead World; Angel’s Egg
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 พ.ค. 2023
- In this video I look at the 1985 Film Angel's Egg. In making sense of the symbolism and motifs of this film, I illustrate a number of philosophical, psychological and mythological concepts which I consider to be immensely significant with regards to our current historical situation.
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I'm still trying to strike a decent balance pertaining to the background music. Hopefully this is better for those who find it interfering. Thanks to everyone for watching ofc!
I always liked the music; it helped me focus on the words somehow… to each their own but it’s nice either way
@lukejtm8586 Yeah I"m gonna get some DT 990s when I can but I had to quit one of my jobs just to do this channel and also I'm moving next month so who knows when that'll actually happen. I've been making and mixing music for 15 years, but I've never done so with earbuds or as background music for spoken monologues. Typically I have about 16 hours to make these videos from the first word being written to the final product being uploaded to TH-cam and so that definitely doesn't help either. The algorithm kicks your ass if you go more than a week without posting though so...
@lukejtm8586 I use Ableton for everything I make myself so that'll just get me to dial back the high end a bit more, which will probably be a good thing if anything. If i'm listening to music that isn't mine then there's a 95% chance it's coming through my car stereo so I'm not too worried about it lol.
@lukejtm8586 Those look awesome, but I read somewhere that closed-back headphones aren't as good for monitoring/mixing as open-back headphones due to the way that closed-backs cause reverberations within the headphone cups themselves. Is this something you've noticed?
What the name of the music used in this vid?
Holy sh*t.. I have listened to this 3 times now, and each time, I have came to many different mind-blowing realizations! You, sir, are truly a gift!! THANK YOU!!
Thank you!
💯!!! I am on my 1st listen and will be watching a couple more times too! Very powerful!
Just found this ….truly amazing !!!!!!!
Really enjoyed this. Eighties movies could still get away with not having feel-good, crowd-friendly endings.
I'm trying to find another movie that I can analyze like I did with this one but I don't watch many movies so yall need to give me some suggestions.
Someone mentioned No Country For old Men, but I'm not sure if I have much to say about that one that hasn't been said already. I'll eventually do some stuff about Dune, but that's gonna have to be like a whole series.
Ho-ley-shit… this was profound. Legitimately felt so much pain when I saw the little girl holding the broken egg, and felt nihilism symbolically animating it.
All of your work is so completely thought out and articulated. Since I found you a few days ago I haven’t been able to stop listening! Fantastic work, thank you 🙏
This interpretation of the god myths makes so much more sense than the version that says they were just fairytale memes that won out with whichever tribe conquered. I have had the thought on my own that the cosmos created agriculture and we needed years-long memory to figure it out, thus furthering our consciousness, awareness and intelligence. I never heard of Gebser in more than passing before I found your videos and I now LOVE his work.
Yeah, the Ever Present Origin is an absolute gem, but it's a tough nut to crack. If you like Gebser, then you might also want to look into Sri Aurobindo. Aurobindo also develops a kind of "integral theory" but does so by basically synthesizing Indic philosophy with western Platonic philosophy.
Wow, I’m a little overwhelmed. Very moving. Thank you.
I was moved to tears several times throughout this piece. Thank you for your work, truly inspiring!
This video is really infravalorated, amazing work!
thanks fam!
You are definitely on to something. Death is just like Life all around us, not even (in a) separated (dimension). But maybe it's better to wait a bit with this (forgotten) fact because there are still enough idiots to weaponize forgotten technology - and we can't come back from the other side if there is no other side.
Credit for the stylish approach!
this immediately makes me truly think differently about life. even if i just spent a minimal time here, it will not be forgotten. thank you for this incredible piece!
Amazing essay. Thank you.
I just watched Angel's Egg and am now going to re-watch your explication of it. I've been dabbling in archetypal psychology since the late nineties. Joseph Campbell was my gateway drug and since that time I have read some Eliade, Jung, de Chardin, and also various gnostic writings and analysis. I was once a member of the Theosophical society and have continually tried to integrate these concepts and practices into my life. Thank you so much for these beautiful videos. I've read enough to know you are spot on in your grasp of often very difficult understandings of consciousness and how archetypes are the filter through which we grasp what we deem to be reality. You have introduced me to several thinkers I was unaware of and look forward to winding my way through this treasure trove of beautifully crafted videos. Keep it up. We are few but we do very much appreciate it. I have posted a few on my Facebook page and will do so now and again.
Thank you! I kinda just made this video on a whim bc I saw the movie after seeing some YT video-essays about it which I thought mostly just missed the point. Hopefully I'll get around to doing more film analysis type stuff down the road.
@@Formscapes if you could suggest other films with archetypal themes it would be great. 🙏
@@pittiedaddy-j8s All art is made of archetypal motifs, it just depends on which ones you are looking for. There's definitely alot going on in the Dune franchise as a whole, and the 2021 film is pretty dope (though you don't really get to see the big picture unless you read the books - or at least use a wiki to figure out the metanarrative).
Ghibli films in general are also very on-point with symbolism if you're looking for Japanese animation. Also Ghost in the Shell is extremely philosophical.
Thanks again. I will explore them. I read the first three Dune books as a middle-school teen so I was already orienting myself in that direction, but I obviously missed a lot of the symbolism then. Today is the first day of autumn. I have a small statue of Demeter in my back yard so I will say hello later so she doesn't blight my foliage. Poor Persephone is going to Hades in a handbasket today! I'll let you get on with your weekend. I really appreciate the responses. Keep up the excellent work!@@Formscapes
Thank you so much for this deeply meaningful video. I am struggling with this personally. This is much needed in our world.
I had watched the movie before, and didn't really like it, but seeing it described through your perspective made me resignify the whole meaning of this movie, thanks for sharing!
Would love to see more.. (:
Wow, incredible!
This has got to be one of the most underrated videos of yours. I miss the music this video has that the newer ones don’t. The original “Morphic Resonance Trilogy” was a banger too.
Glad I found you while your still small. This content was very well produced and extremely interesting. I’d love to hear some personal background about you in a separate video or what motivates you to make these in depth breakdowns. Really hoping you’ll explore some cinema next as it’s a personal favorite of mine. Definitely keep doing the video essay format, your voice is perfectly suited to it and unfortunately a lot of TH-camrs gravitate towards a shorter runtime. You’ve earn my sub and recommendation ❤❤❤.
If yall want more cinema stuff then i'm gonna need some recommendations bc I only watch movies once in a blue moon lol. Honestly with this one I just watched it on a whim and then just started writing. As for me, I'm just some guy lol. I'm supposed to be doing an interview on the Integral-Facticity podcast, so maybe we will get more into my story whenever we get around to doing that. It's more of a lefty podcast and that's not really my cup of tea anymore but it's very good philosophical content either way.
@@Formscapes I definitely like a link to that podcast. When are you going to be interviewed over there. I try to reject all lefty/righty designations as I feel it's very simplistic and reductionary. However I'm very anti-capitalism so I probably would enjoy the podcast. As for film recommendations why not start with one of these; No Country for old men, Fear and loathing in Las Vegas, Orange County, Interstellar, Or a classic like All along the waterfront. Believe me film is an incredible way in our generation for stories and ideologies to be told and repersented. It's not Hollywood tripe and superhero movies.
@@lilytheghost7608 No Country for Old men is definitely a good idea, but my only reservation is that I'm not sure if I have anything to say that hasn't already been said by somebody since that one gets addressed so frequently. Blood Meridian hasn't been made into a film yet but that might be a better target for a channel like mine. Interstellar could be a good one. I could probably say everything that needs to be said about it in like 20 minutes, which will be alot less demanding upon people's attention spans than me rambling about an obscure anime for literally an hour lol.
Anyway I just stopped identifying with "the left" because over the past 5 years or so, the "left" has devolved into a bunch of narcissistic looney-toons, and also bc frankly it's just way more freeing not to be constantly aligning oneself with a particular political camp or their hypothetical enemies. once upon a time "left" meant anti-capitalist but those days are evidently long gone at least with regards to popular use of the term.
This guy is cool though; he's done interviews with Matt Segal and Chris Satoor, both of whom are good friends of mine
www.youtube.com/@integralfacticity
@@Formscapes Annihilation (2018), The Green Knight (2021), Mother! (2017) [very impactful, but traumatic film], and The Giver (2014) are a few films that come to mind...
@@AbyssinianEmerald Thanks for the suggestion. I've been meaning to see Annihilation for a while. I'll check the others out when I get a chance as well.
Thank You. I created an altar piece of about 800 eggs 20 years ago. " We All" was the working title, for Genesis chappel ( in university). Now, to watch Angel Egg.
Now I think the man was crucified and after noticing the sacrifice didnt work as hoped for, lost his faith ever rambling around to take down every sparkle of hope can find. Innocent feminine energy cannot survive and produce new energy without healthy masculine creative power and remains as an empty shell having no true creative light within.
Honestly you inspired me to read some obituaries and really think about death. I feel so much happier because of it even though that sounds kinda weird :)
Superb analysis & interpretations. I wonder what you would make of all the symbolism in Neongenesis Evangelion? I've seen some rather good interpretations, but I think they all miss the spiritual aspects. From what I see, every episode contains tons of symbolism in 3 categories: Christian, Kabbalistic, & sexual. The sexual is fairly obvious, given that it is in many ways a coming-of-age story (not to mention a few more Freudian themes,) but the more religious symbols always struck me as odd, given that (at least in the parts I've seen) religion plays almost no part in the story, despite us seeing the Tree of Life in the opening sequence, & Christian references everywhere, up to & including a literal cross-shaped explosion (with no material explanation for why it would be shaped that way.) I used to have a few vague theories, but nothing on this level. I would LOVE to hear your take on it, if your schedule ever permits it.
I would need to re-watch the series and the OVA, but my first instinct would be to interpret it in Jungian terms; Rei and Asuka represent two valences of Shinji's anima - i.e., the boundary between his personal individuality and the world, which seems to be hostile and controlling of him. This hostility then manifests within Shinji as a sexualized violence which we see in the hospital room scene and the final scene in which he is strangling Asuka. Despite the Kabbalistic imagery, it seems like the form of transcendence actually being confronted in Evangelion is actually Gnostic; total disintegration of the world and its boundaries within the abyssal womb of Sophia; that's why we see everything literally disintegrate and the why the angels are the villains. The angels are representatives of the power of Yaldabaoth.
That's a first pass anyway. I'll probably make a video about all that sooner or later.
@@Formscapes Looking forward to it!
I watched Angel's Egg a long time ago, I love that you noticed the fish were Coelacanths too! I also thought the skeletons on the walls were reminiscent of the Ichthyosaurs mounted in museums such as the British Natural History Museum. I also think the skeletal bird could be based on the Archaeopteryx fossil? Although it looks also human and so perhaps the "Angel"? I really like your interpretation which is deeper than mine but maybe not so different, I wondered if the egg contained the essence of that civilisation before its extinction, or a spirit of its redemption and salvation. I assumed the two white haired characters were in some way angels too, something alien to the civilisation but send there? But then antagonistic... which seems odd. I love how you noticed the men were like 19th century whalers, I hadn't noticed that or didn't recall thinking that, although now it seems kinda obvious with the harpoon type things.
Yeah the thing with the whalers seems to be a direct allusion to Moby Dick (Which I really need to actually get around to reading; everyone tells me it's phenomenal). What's super weird about this film is that the director stated that he "doesn't know what the film is about", which seems really strange given how on-the-nose most of the symbolism seems to be. Maybe it all just came together like that without any conscious intent, or maybe the director was just deflecting the question so that he didn't create a definitive authorial interpretation which would color people's impression of it. idk but I think it's probably the latter.
@@Formscapes It seems like visual poetry to me, maybe it did unconsciously evoke such symbols?
@@jonstfrancis I suppose most symbolism works unconsciously. Perhaps even the creation of most symbolism is unconscious.
@@Formscapes Yes, I think so. In it's purist and most naive sense, if that's the right words to use...
@@Formscapes Well the author did create the film during the time he had a crisis of faith so to speak, so it could be possible that his disappointment in Christianity expressed itself through the particular imagery present in the film.
Well done, I shared with my smart friends 😂❤
I've been going through a spiritual awakening, and one of the films that is absolutely inspired in my opinion is Fight Club. He says it plainly: our great war is a spiritual war. Our great depression is our lives.
One day as I was considering the spiritual condition of humanity, it came to me as a vision of a truly chaotic battle where it was every person for themselves, no causes, just an absolute cacophony of bloodlust and desperation. In the middle of this horror, those of us who are waking up are having to figure out how to establish medical tents so to speak, starting with healing ourselves and fully coming out of our own madness, then helping others where we can do so without getting hurt too badly ourselves, since even those who you help are in the grip of terrible forces.
It is essential that we understand our own nature. Everything I see happening is directing every single person into self examination that is willing to. What is happening in the world today seems to truly be unprecedented
This was splendid to listen to. Thank you.
Regarding what comes next - if you're still interested in reviewing media; then I ask you to consider Apocalypse Now.
Your perspective, I sense, might cut to the heart of the matter. The prominent video essayists only ever skirt around the nature of the descent (or ascent, depending on the vantage). I am curious about your insight into the nature of horror.
It's so comfy that all these vids aren't time sensitive 🙂
This was awesome and it would be great if you could do similar things with other films. Can't think of too many that would fit as perfectly though. However, if you haven't watched it, treat yourself to Tampopo, another Japanese 80's movie. It's comedy, and it's the best.
Thank you for sharing this video and enlightening me on this movie. It was new to me. I enjoyed your comments and interpretations but I have one additional comment I would like to add. This technological eye which was in the movie may have a more positive interpretation. It could be said that it is a giant technological mind which makes instant monuments of the history of this futuristic civilization. A bit like what the internet cloud does nowadays by collecting our data and storing it for future generations to rediscover.
This one of the last channels I would have expected to cover an anime movie, much less Angel's Egg (ie there are other TH-camrs who review anime and philosophize them, usually Neon Genesis Evangelion)
I randomly watched the movie and thought that none of the other reviews actually understood what was happening in the film so I decided to take a swing at it.
I might tackle the Ghost in the Shell franchise at some point as well but right now I really just don't have time to watch TV or movies, unfortunately.
Tree of life.. mating with the tree of knowledge begets? Lain is a good anime I still want to finish the episodes.. I am not sure of all the motifs in it but just that it's like a neat thing that my friends would talk about.. infinite nothingness as a persona of nihilistic thought 💭🤔.. I watched the movie first and then this now I may watch it again.. your link to the angels egg 🥚 was a deleted video.. but you did really great in the interpretations of the movie and correspondences between books and knowledge that are represented in the movie. Thanks 👍
Yeah I've had to change the link a couple of times bc it keeps getting taken down. Probably best to find it on a streaming platform or just pirate it if you can find it.
again this is true from within the perspective of a hyper modern culture, but it ignores the vast wisdom still living in indigenous knowledge systems. all these 19th and 20th century philosophers were groping blindly towards what indigenous folks have always known. a balance of perspectives would really help! the books Sand Talk by Tyson Yunkaporta and Braiding Sweetgrass by Robin Wall-Kimmerer are good resources for applying indigenous knowledge in the current world.
I've definitely ran into those books before, on r/animism I believe, but I've yet to read them. I'll definitely check those out as soon as I can clear my plate a bit. I'm working on like 4 books right now and between that, working full time and making videos, I'm pretty much crushed atm
God bless you
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Did you read the red book? The chapters about Izdubar mirror this perfectly. I have been thinking about Jung's answer, to save the god from the poisonous aspects of man's science by turning him into a living fantasy. And of course, fantasy doesn't exactly mean "not real" here, and definitely doesn't mean dead. I can feel how it might work, how such a fantasy if taken seriously enough could provide the life force of the god, without being lamed by the inevitability of science and technology, but it's just a feeling. I don't understand anything of it yet
very interesting take on the movie and I can see great amount of effort but the music was little tiring listen for an hour. I think it would be better to change the music from time to time.
Still I enjoyed it so nice job
I wasn't able to notice so much of the symbolism from the movie when I watched it but weirdly, I was came to somehow interpret the similar theme as your video but I think the film little too vague for people whos not adept at things you presented.
I know your main focus is to talk about concepts and not the film itself but I would like to know how you felt
The thing is that for most people (possibly including the people who actually created the film) these symbolic structures aren't going to be something that they notice at a conscious level. People *feel* these symbolic narratives at the level of the unconscious, but unless a person has studied things like Jungian Archetypes or Proto-Indo-European mythology, then they probably wont be able to put names to what their intuitions are picking up on. Nevertheless, these symbolic narratives *work* because our unconscious minds are able to resonate with them even if our conscious minds don't understand what's going on at an intellectual level.
@@Formscapes I personally thought the music was appropriately contemplative ambience - especially for the film and ideas being discussed. Not too loud, not too quiet. Excellent presentation! For another film to analyze, I'm sure you could dig pretty deep into the 2018 film Annihilation.
Thanks for these. Shit be getting weird out here.
👍😇 maybe look at The Master and Margarita...Not a movie, but kinda like a movie.
I would love to see u make a movie vid on technolyze,u would that hidden jem justice.
I don't know if you mention this in the video yet but the image looks like the birth of Femto cover art.
My baa said yes bro time to balance that potential for ourselves
Have you heard of the manga "BLAME!" ? Its really surprising to me how similar are the themes of both stories of an undead world, and the hope of the egg.
I have not, but I'll check it out at some point
This recalls for me Koyanisqaatsi
I like the indepth look at this film you give, but alas it remains an interpretation. An interesting one for sure, but there are no true answers.
U should watch the series hanibal S1 to S3,its a really unique show
I will add it to the list of things I need to watch as soon as I have time to actually watch television again lol
does anyone know what the painting at 43:12 is?
This video is longer than the movie itself. 😂
The final scene resembles a planisphere on a world map. As if continents were all connected in one solid terrestrial aspect. The Earth is the Ark. Like Pangea. When we say The Earth we use an idea and something feminine. A planet whose surface is almost entirely made of water is called Earth. If the Earth were all water we probably wouldn't be here. All life would be marine or aquatic life. The Ark saves as the Earth saves. The terrestrial. A world limit.
Link to movie is dead
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@@Formscapes Unfortunately, that one is also dead now
I think you should investigate the stories of dark souls.
I keep on wanting to do an episode on Elden Ring but I want to wait for the DLC to come out so that I can waste even more of my life reading lore theories (I have not and never plan to actually play the games. I just love the worldbuilding lol)
Read blood meridian
I have. It'll come up eventually
This movie literally sounds like elden ring. Unlife and a cancerous world tree
symbols don’t have depth dude, character, and drama, character, and drama
If you think that symbols don't have depth then I would recommend that you never attempt any form of storytelling whatsoever.
Play genshin impact and read the ingame books ,i can garuntee you will enjoy it from what ive seen from you.