100% agreed with Peterson but at least I have to give the interviewer that she is polite enough to not interrup and try to follow the dialogue with Peterson, something other more aggressive interviewer was unable to do
nichrossi well I can't say it was the perfect answer his answer has some points to it but she was so biased among women, I mean she's practically living in the past with that mindset. but she should travel around the world you know visit many countries for her vision to be broadened.
I’m convinced that if feminist and sjw just listened and tried to understand what jordon is saying it would change. Some might arlready know that they are in the wrong but don’t want to be unpopular with their friends and groups they now belong too.
*FUN FACT* The interviewer (Helen Lewis) cheated on her now ex-husband and is divorced. She is a bit vague about the details, but admits that within 2 years of her marriage she "fell in love with someone else" (in other words she cheated on her husband).
@@kylefer as terrible as it is (me speaking as a man)no one gives a shit bro...in society they label men as strength (biologically)so they think if a women raped you,you did something wrong and if you tried to defend yourself physically you're seen as the asshole and if you try to defend yourself verbally you're seen as weak unfortunately.(im not degrading men out there that are victims to this heinous crime but look at how most society sees it)
Her arguement is invalid regardless because British law does not allow for women to be offenreds of rape. S.1 sexual offences act (offence of rape) requires a "MALE" penis to penertrate a mouth, anus or vagina. It is biologically and legally impossible under current British law for a female or even a transgender male (female to male transition) to commit rape. Given that it is impossible to use it as a justificatio for her arguement because there is not a women in British history who has ever been charged with the offence.
Well such cases are rising day by day. Just a month ago, i read about a Japanese teenage boy that was gangraped by college girls. Feminism of french revolution was the one that promoted equality now it just wants complete female dominance in the society. If we did not raise our voices like these gentlemen then we are going to see times that we can not even imagine.
The amount of people this man have saved from certain death, is something to notice. He's not only speaking, and clearing up things that are misunderstood. He's also saving lives.
@@AnitaDollar she did, also, watch the entire interview, dont make the assumption that she didn't, using only a tiny clip of the interview, also, her behavior was really admirable, she just listened and gave him space to talk even if it is against her argument, she waited, and then spoke on her time to talk, that is an actual interview
Is she really listen though? I watched this interview many times and on both sides of the aisle.. first time I watched it is when I was leaning more towards her ideas of patriarchy (I was a hardcore left wing feminist back then).. as time goes by, everytime I rewatched this interview, its become clear to me that she tend to win the argument instead of try to understand and listen.
I have worked in abuse recovery ministry here in America. And let me tell you, it’s just that most men don’t report rape, molestation, etc. Or even talk about it. So she had no clue what she’s talking about. I love Jordan Peterson.
@@Pakiezel I'm just theorising but I'd assume it's got something to do with "face" so to speak. Societally speaking, a man would probably be looked down upon for being taken advantage of by someone as it's not very "manly". Plus I personally know a few folk who have been but never reported it, it only came out in substance induced conversation I'm not saying I agree with being less manly, I just know how most of society would see the issue
Stop labeling his videos this way. "JORDAN PETERSON DESTROYS THIS AND THAT" That's not the concept of sharing thoughts and communication. We talk to build, not to destroy. Titles like these are the reason less people listen to him. I think something like: Jordan Peterson and feminism narrative.
Max Rustine Do you know, Max, that Red Skelton the comedian, at the end of his variety show, often said “I come to build not destroy” about his comedy. Beautiful thought brother.
I agree with you, we need more men like him. But…. there is a good chance when we do begin the process we’d be accused on “mansplaining” or being oppressive.
no u need more healthy female figures for you girls n women to look up to, unfortunately for u most women nowadays r blinded by pathetic feminism ideologies
There are great women role models, just not many today....unfortunately most of the good ones are in the past.....there were some wonderful women in my own family when I was a child in the seventies.....God knows what they would make of what young girls are told today.
@@beladury3751 smart? In response to women being raped every minute by men in most cases, women being targeted for flesh trading which is mostly organised by men. His response to counter this he says you have most number of men in prison, most no of sucides cases are of men etc was like women were responsible for it lol. Do u have a brain of your own or do u let Peterson do it for u. Compare the atrocities faced by men due to women vs the atrocities faced by women due to men. That would be completely one-sided in favour of women facing the worst. To believe this idiot you either don't have a brain of Ur known or u have been hypnotised.
@@beladury3751 that's the most stupid come back ever How does that prove its not a male dominated society? When u have most of the atrocities committed on women by men n don't c much improvement in that for years..u still have women raped Nothin much is done abt it.. u still have women restricted to get out of the House.. u still have people deciding what women should wear instead of having men control their own equipments..
@@beladury3751 I think ur just too ignorant. People like Jordon Peterson use their intellectual to sell their shit to ignorant people like u. He clearly knows what he is doing but he just wants to sell his shit..
I could listen to this man 24/7 I absolutely love him! He is so eloquent and lest face it, correct in what he says I literally spend hours just listening to him, he has a beautiful mind. I wouldn’t however get into a discussion with him 🤣 she’s brave!
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I just can't get enough of Jordan Peterson, this person is absolutely magnificent in his arguments and even when they try to put words into his mouth that he never said or meant, he is able to argue correctly and shed light into the conversation. I admire him and I hope most men and women see the good in his words and listen carefully to what he's got to say, because we've been believing and educating wrong for decades and this needs to change.
100% agree with everything you said. Just one teenytiny detail... just coz he talks nice and puts his arguments well, doesn't mean he is talking gold. Never surrender critical analysis just coz the other person sounds like he knows better.
We'd get so much further into this world if we were all as articulate as him. Most of us aren't able to stay calm and think of the perfect things to say under pressure.
"Men and women throughout history have fundamentally cooperated to push back against **the absolute catastrophe of existence**." How I like that phrasing.
Actually that was the only wrong thing he said. He was spot on analyzing the western society and explaining how competence is different than power, but to look back at the medieval times(or any other time in history except the last century) and say that men and women cooperated on the same level is pure nonsense. Women had literally no rights or opportunityes back then, therefore it wasn't a cooperation between equal beings:it was patriarchy.
@@justthunderbolt40 I would say that is wrong. Men and women made tradeoffs, and many of the privileges men were given burdened them with heavy obligations, and women got a hell of a lot of entitlements and protections for the things they gave up. I can't honestly say the typical woman back then would have likely wanted to trade places. Indeed, studies of happiness and quality of life have traditionally had women coming out on top. The fundamental problem with the historical patriarchy argument is that it assumes power is MERELY power. But power, socially constrained within a community, comes at a cost, and actually takes the freedom to do certain things away. So it's really not immediately obvious who got the better deal when you look back soberly at history.
@@BaremetalBaron Surely men had heavy obligations and dutyes to fulfill, such as being always available for the lord to call as levy in a war;however, wars were also opportunityes to become either rich raiding enemy towns and villages, or either managing to capture an enemy lord and being knighted for this. War was hell, but also a way to improve their position. It's right to say that power doesn't only come in strength in a civilized society, however the daughter of a farmer had nearly 0 possibilities to improve her position or to change her life:she would continue to clean the house and raise the childrens after marrying someone of the village. She could not learn any profession, nor marry a noble. They may be happier because they had more security than men, but this doesn't mean that they had the same opportunityes.
@@justthunderbolt40 Fair enough, you're probably right that they had less agency to shape their lives. My point was just that many of the things they lacked (such as voting) had a corollary burden (civil service and conscription) that they weren't required to take on. Voting is a great example, because when polled, the vast majority of 19th century American women didn't WANT the vote because they didn't want to give up certain freedoms they already enjoyed in exchange for the responsibilities of service. So it's difficult to look at that as oppressive when many of men's rights were merely facilitators of their ability to provision and protect women. Also, the notion that women couldn't learn any profession is simply incorrect. There were trade guilds for female blacksmiths all the way back in the 14th century, and plenty of women were brewers or tavern owners or weavers.
@@BaremetalBaron I didn't know about the female guilds, thanks for the information. Voting is an excellent example to show that often we value security over freedom,but in medieval times neither men had the luxury to choose their lord, unless they rebelled against him.
That's because most of them can't actually argue. They don't HAVE a winning argument, so their only hope is to bully the other person into submission. Well, I don't think Lewis's argument is "winning" either, but at least it's a proper structured set of ideas. She's head and shoulders more competent than Cathy Newman, but in fairness that's not really Newman's job, so...
Lol its funny, at work when my women coworkers say: “can you do this, this is men’s work.” I’m like:” Hey I thought you women wanna be equals.” And then they stare at me, speachless.
You know what I love about Jordan Peterson, he knows that these guys don’t listen and remain clouded with emotion, but he still does his job by sending his point across.
Fun fact 85% of women whole are raped is recorded while 98.9% of of men who are raped goes unrecorded. So if everything is taken of a 100 ratio. For every 100 women who are raped, 85 of them will be reported while nearly 99 of the 100 men who are raped will go unrecorded. So the ideology that women are raped much more than men is only because men don’t report it for a number of reasons. So who’s really oppressed in that sense?
Who needs Facebook? I'm not banned from it, but I haven't even logged on for years. It's worthless. So is Twitter (pardon me - X), TikTok, and all the rest of such things that encourage the most superficial elements of our personalities.
Don't be fooled just because she was quiet . There is a "post interview" discussion where Peterson reviews the entire meeting, including the discussion they had prior to recording, which was not pleasant. Fact is, she was not expecting him to absolutely wipe the floor with her, and she was quiet only because Peterson gave her a good telling off. :-)
The best part is when she goes "I don't. I really don't, please go on" *that's* how you debate, folks. She was genuinely interested in what he had to say and respected him by not interrupting him (as did he). This gives me hope in humanity
What she should have said was that "Women are raped by men must more frequently than the converse," and that I figure is probably true. "Almost" is a really ambiguous word.
If rape is per definition penetration with genitals, it is impossible for women to rape. That does not mean that women cannot perform sexual misconduct, or be violent.
Yes. As others have pointed out, by law, they can only SA men in the UK. The same in other places around the world, and in any case, in the vast majority (if not all) of the world, no prosecutor is going to take on the case. For some reason, we're supposed to be very concerned about what would happen if someone was convicted of a crime against a man... would that suddenly stop a bunch of ladies coming forward and reporting crimes against them? Never hear about lack of convictions and men failing to come forward...
The difficulty lies in the way they express and often twist and manipulate the narrative. Usually when you counter an argument, the woman/opposing person will say "yeah but this, this and this, so therefore it's obvious" and all you end up doing is defending against their ever-morphing rationale which plays out as you are constantly on the defense which portrays you as being on the losing side. JP is very good at his rebuttal, but women are very very crafty. My ex wife used to do it to me all the time. To paraphrase, a typical argument would go along the lines of "you don't love me because you never do this", to which I would feel compelled to rebuttle with "well actually I do that all the time and here are my examples". That then morphs into "well you always do this other thing as well so clearly you don't love me" and so it continues on a neverending path of justification that is completely ignorant of any facts or truth whatsoever. And if I simply said "I do love you" then I'd get the rationale of something like "well you don't show it, you always do this" and on and on it goes, deeper into the rabbit hole. JP totally nails it in this one, but he's still fighting a losing cause. She'll never agree. Only his viewers and followers will ever agree.
Leroy30 the problem with your ex is self esteem and needing oh I love you so much and im glad you are not like her and her im just so glad you are awesome because I couldn’t live without you when in reality you were doing fine before you met and she was the one that has the inability to do anything about her own self esteem so it must be because you don’t love her lol I think I just got a bit dumber after trying to think like a woman lol
@@leroy30 you are the one that will forever lose by thinking theres no point, and by generalizing all women into this type of thinking. You are doing exactly what those toxic feminists do, generalize a whole gender based on the negative characteristics/actions/thoughts of the small amount of men they've encountered or heard of
do you want to see him debate a zizek, acommunist? if you have 3 hours to spare, you can watch peterson get dominated by a slovenian dumpster raccoon: th-cam.com/video/lsWndfzuOc4/w-d-xo.html
There are no top academic feminists. They have understood that our society is about competence, not sex, and therefor dont need handouts because of their genitalia
Next time the power goes out after a storm, the sewer is blocked, the buildings have fallen, and the farmers fields need to be tended to, lets just sit on our hands and complain about men
P.O. M.E - What the hell is your point? The OP’s original comment was suggesting that the base infrastructure jobs are maintained by men. And your first comment is about who raises them? The question itself seems that you’re suggesting that these men were raised by women, which is why you got your first smarmy, but justified, response that they were raised by men and women. From here this comment chain devolves into a pointless, rambling escapade from you continually trying to reinforce some narrative living your head about family structure. The other guy tried to provide information to you about the average family household in the US and all you did was obfuscate and throw facts in quotes to try and devalue the information he provided. You then feebly tried to suggest that there were many variables to consider......of course there are! No family is the exact same, and yes there are large percentages of aberrant family structures that don’t match the healthy, nuclear family standard. But again, what are you even trying to say, and how does it relate to men holding the mast majority of infrastructure jobs?
P.O. M.E - Then your implied point is something that I, and Toastman I believe, would agree with. But that isn’t all you were trying to do. If it were, his first response to you of ‘Men and women’ would have satisfied your desire to recognize both sexes’ contributions to raising young men. But instead you provided a provacative response about Dads leaving the family more often. Toastman even replied once more affirming his belief that both parents provide equally important contributions to child rearing which, again, is supposedly what you’re trying to communicate. Men and women need each other, right? Instead of acknowledging this you pivoted and deflected to family demographics which has nothing to do with your core point. Stop pretending you clearly communicated anything, or that you did so with innocent intentions about men and women needing to respect each other. No one here is denying that. Yes, the OP’s comment was a gibe about women who complain or overlook male contributions to society, but that doesn’t mean it was untrue. Nor does it mean he doesn’t understand the necessity of female involvement in family or society. You act as if because he made this comment he doesn’t value women by default, and as a result you tried to teach some other guy a lesson in male/female contributions. Do you not see the futility of how you’ve responded here? Please, do us a favor and just stop.
P.O. M.E - ‘men and women’ wouldn’t even make sense in the context of OP’s comment. That was purely a reply to you from Toastman, but if you haven’t comprehended the difference by now then what point is there discussing further. Especially since you predictably resorted to personal attacks and cussing. And judging by your comments, I’m not the one with delicate emotions. “Real men.” lol.
So many of Peterson's messages are things that young men used to just absorb via cultural osmosis. The need for them to be stated explicitly - and the associated elevation of the man who does that to hero status - has been made necessary by the perpetual "tearing down" of young men that our culture has devolved into. I am so happy I was born when I was. I'm 61 years old, and I'm not sure how many years later I could have been born and not been caught in that trap myself. I think I rode through during the last few years of relative sanity. It had "begun," but it hadn't become dominant yet.
As always , factual and unambiguous truth put into poetry, I actually think the young lady appreciates the education and awakening to the facts over all the fiction .
Thank you JP for articulating one of the most vicious lies of our time. Few ideas have been more successful in driving a wedge between men and women at a time when we need each other more than ever
There's a great bit of internal monologue in The Stand (Stephen King) by the character Fran Goldsmith. The plague has wiped the slate clean, and it's all going to have to be rebuilt. And she's musing that in the editorial offices of Ms. magazine there should have been a plaque thanking men for building the world in which women could declare that they no longer needed men. Because I'll tell you, Frannie figured out RIGHT FAST that she needed a man in the new savage post-plague world.
A man with the a great as well as true perspective about male patriarchy according to me A woman with an open mind to listen and a correct interviewing ethics I Respect both ✌🏼
Love Peterson and I respect the fact that this woman stayed calm and didn't let her emotions take over the conversation. This is what you often see in a debate, when one points out other's errors and misconceptions they tend to get angry and agressive.
Could be she didn't have any counter argument, Her best bet was" There is almost no females who rape men" . To her defence she had never heard anybody defend against the patriarchy narrative that well so she was caught out.
That's what happens when a person realizes they're being beaten and they have no idea how to continue their fight. At least Lewis knows her way around a debate platform.
@@akanksharaturi3997 no id come home from work and clean up myself, if my (spouse) was not there. sounds like women just wanna be lazy, like get a job and most guys will have no problem helping around the house, to me it sounds like women want to be rewarded by there laziness by not helping out around the house. then expect us males to spend money on you women. delusion at its finest
Still have to give some credit for how polite the interviewer was, she didn’t scream, interrupt him, insult him, etc and she also accepts to hear his opinion
I dont see any logic between pointing out that there are more men in prison and claim that there is no patriarchy. Men are in prison because they commited crime, that is totaly irrelevant for feminism, yet this hero of all bricklayers repeats it all the time :D
Not everything can be entirely logical as is morality. If you always go with "utilitarianism" then you might be tough as hell to deal with any possible disadvantages that might get inflicted on you.
"Nothing" that's why other refrained from listening to some men because they dont give consideration to the opinions of others. A good leader doesn't fully invalidate others' opinion regardless if that other is male or female.
This is a civil debate, loved it. That's how debates are done. Let others complete their point and then respond and not react taking one sentence or word of the whole conversation.
Big words, Not letting other speak, Picking on small things of others speech and saying it wrong Having no emotional guilt That's How you win an argument
The fact that wealth and capital are not very different from each other, shows that she had nothing else to say, which already makes her argument very weak.
Boom. One of the best answers I’ve seen recently on this nonsense called feminism. This is what happens when the left actually lets the right complete their sentences.
The sad thing is that up to a point the feminists had legitimate grievances. It really WAS the case that women were long discriminated against in the workplace. It was appropriate for us to take steps to address that. The problem is that the crazies came in and hijacked the program and just ran away with it, and the bad outcome for women is that the legitimate issues got lost in that. Because now when we hear "feminist" it's not those valid issues we think about - it's the nutty stuff.
@KipIngram entirely agreed. The terms used now on college campuses are "1st wave (legitimate) feminism," " 2nd wave," "3rd wave," etc. I believe current feminists believe themselves to be part of the "8th wave"
I have thought about a lot to make a statement against male dominance but they turn out to be just stupid excuses. This man just made the best and boldest most accurate statement I have ever heard.
I didn't get your point. The rapists are the ones who go to jail if proven guilty and if appropriate action is taken against them. So what do you mean '"Most rape victims are also men when considering prisons"? If they are in jail it's because they raped not because they got raped unless someone misused their power to put them in jail for getting raped which is absurd and WRONG.
@@Lisa-sg1of That’s assuming he is talking about rapists. My guess is he is referring to the general population in prison where the strong prey on the weak. Prison rapes aren’t just exclusive towards punishing rapists, it can also happen to other prisoners.
@@Lisa-sg1of his point is Jim’s prison name is Gina. And he’s open access, and now a b**** , to multiple men in jail. He does this or else he will be taken care of. This is common in prison regardless of the mans sentence.
I sent this video to my daughter and my son in law; I have great respect for both. I have a two-year-old grandson and Jordan Peterson can articulate what I want my grandson to know. Thank you.
No he didn’t destroy her. He destroyed himself. He interrupted her, he didn’t listen to her. He talked over her. His behaviour towards her proved the very thing that he unsuccessfully ‘argued’ against.
Oh God - not one of us in a thousand would stand a chance. I feel kind of the same way about Ben Shapiro, though his skills in argument are quite different. Peterson is much more likable.
Dr. Peterson: You are simply one of the most eloquent and well read educators around. I am so happy that you are standing up for mens rights against this baseless modern wave of feminist ideology.
If his argument was as strong as you would like it to be, please also show the counter argument. These two (seeming both intelligent) people were having a respectful dialog/discussion. I’m a feminist but was very much open to watch this video and listen to what he had to say. Thats how I try to learn. Just listening to what we want to hear, only reinforces our own point of view, keeping us narrow minded.
Agreed. Let s not get stuck in an echo chamber. I watched the whole interview, it s on TH-cam you can watch it too, and trust me (or not, you can watch it by yourself) Jordan completely won the argument. It was like in this small clip throughout the whole interview. Sorry for my English, it is not my first language.
Thank you so much for such a sane response. Something that came across as clear was that the interviewer was (in essence) reading from an idealogical script that was exposed as weak in the face of factual reasoning. Using the example of male on female rape (a truly wicked and abhorrent act ) was a perfect example of this and was (to use an analogy) clutching at straws to save the haystack of her general argument falling down. The intelligence of your own observation demonstrates the awareness that we live in a desperately unhealthy and confused time where slogans hostile rhetoric are casually thrown around in preference to open listening and thoughtful consideration of opposite view points. Disagreement with the prevailing ideology’s has been labelled as hate speech and forbidden. One doesn’t have to go back far in history to see that adopting this social framework is a precursor to disaster. Again. I found your reasoned response a breath of fresh air. Thank you.
@@dulinapeduru3500 equal opportunity is a myth right now, ofcourse the most qualified ones are the ones who should be in positions of power, but do you think these positions are occupied only (except for very few exceptions) by men, because these men are more qualified and smart than certain women? no, it’s because women do not have easy access to those places due to stereotypes that have long lived. patriarchy up until a century ago IS a fact, so it is only reasonable that some remnants are still here from those times
@@christineris9544 Baloney. Feminism today is absolutely NOT about equality. Please point to feminists campaigning for equality in divorce cases, child custody cases, number of graduates in Western universities. How many feminists campaign for women to occupy 50% of jobs in road-sweeping and sewage treatment plants? Your entire argument is based on a premise that is demonstrably false.
To be honest i dont understand what is he trying to say, so it is hard to argue with him. What the problem is that there are more men in prison. They commited crimes, so they are in prison, right? Should i feel sorry for them? Problem is when women want to get to leading roles and it must be for many reasons hard if they are minority in leading roles. And he must know it as a psychologist, but does not open it, only says some irrelevant things.
@@ŠárkaNovotná-g4t more men are in prison,yes because they commit crimes,but what he's referring to,if you're unaware is that a woman will get a more lenient sentence for commiting the same crime as a man and hence the reason why less women are in gaol.So should they give women the same gaol sentences as men for commiting the same crimes in the name of equality? Also,people should earn their way in life and achieve their positions based on merit,not because of a woke diversity quota policy. Men are in higher positions on average for a multitude of reasons,merit being a big one,choice of occupation being another.
When your teacher says ' go home n improve your vocabulary'...
When it's debate class and you get dunked on by a slovenian dumpster raccoon: th-cam.com/video/lsWndfzuOc4/w-d-xo.html
zero, is also a note!!! 🤣🤣🤣
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Hahaha...indeed.
Much more than that tho is the concepts involved, if he makes you THINK it's a GOOD experience.
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i respect the woman for letting my man finish his words...
not some oppression is it
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@@gamersk1ll969 no, 2
agreed. most women those type wouldn't even let him deny
Yea but she was pissed
She did try a couple times though
100% agreed with Peterson but at least I have to give the interviewer that she is polite enough to not interrup and try to follow the dialogue with Peterson, something other more aggressive interviewer was unable to do
What do u agree with. Are u Jst designed to agree with whatever Peterson says? U have to be smart to even understand what's going on
what's happening is the lady is getting shut down along with her biased perspective of men.
@@goldrose432 shut down with a stupid come back..
nichrossi well I can't say it was the perfect answer his answer has some points to it but she was so biased among women, I mean she's practically living in the past with that mindset. but she should travel around the world you know visit many countries for her vision to be broadened.
I’m convinced that if feminist and sjw just listened and tried to understand what jordon is saying it would change. Some might arlready know that they are in the wrong but don’t want to be unpopular with their friends and groups they now belong too.
Being able to understand his words without rewinding the video every 5 seconds is such a great achievement to me
*FUN FACT* The interviewer (Helen Lewis) cheated on her now ex-husband and is divorced. She is a bit vague about the details, but admits that within 2 years of her marriage she "fell in love with someone else" (in other words she cheated on her husband).
he called it!!!!!!!
source?
No body asked
@@michaeljarboe9845 LOL... Michael, u r that sorry ass Helen Lewis had an affair with, aren't you. 😉😂😂
But, of course! 😂👏🤣🤣🤣
A worth discussion. She didn’t feel offended or stupid by his arguments. Well done both of you!
Well you didmt watch the whole interview here
Lol
“So you’re saying...”
At the end of the argument she tries to punch him 🙄 watch the whole thing idiot
@@sachinwijewickrama6902 you don’t have to be a dick about it
“There are almost no women who rape men” 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Jesus if that’s her argument I think feminism has just died. Weak here 😂
Shes a karen lmao , deep down we all know feminism is just bullshit no cap
third wave more like
dont even have words
@@kylefer as terrible as it is (me speaking as a man)no one gives a shit bro...in society they label men as strength (biologically)so they think if a women raped you,you did something wrong and if you tried to defend yourself physically you're seen as the asshole and if you try to defend yourself verbally you're seen as weak unfortunately.(im not degrading men out there that are victims to this heinous crime but look at how most society sees it)
Her arguement is invalid regardless because British law does not allow for women to be offenreds of rape. S.1 sexual offences act (offence of rape) requires a "MALE" penis to penertrate a mouth, anus or vagina. It is biologically and legally impossible under current British law for a female or even a transgender male (female to male transition) to commit rape. Given that it is impossible to use it as a justificatio for her arguement because there is not a women in British history who has ever been charged with the offence.
Well such cases are rising day by day. Just a month ago, i read about a Japanese teenage boy that was gangraped by college girls. Feminism of french revolution was the one that promoted equality now it just wants complete female dominance in the society. If we did not raise our voices like these gentlemen then we are going to see times that we can not even imagine.
The amount of people this man have saved from certain death, is something to notice. He's not only speaking, and clearing up things that are misunderstood. He's also saving lives.
This seemed more like a conversation more than destroyed, she actually took the time to listen to him.
She didn't get to say anything
@@AnitaDollar she did, also, watch the entire interview, dont make the assumption that she didn't, using only a tiny clip of the interview, also, her behavior was really admirable, she just listened and gave him space to talk even if it is against her argument, she waited, and then spoke on her time to talk, that is an actual interview
nah she got DESTROYED.
Is she really listen though? I watched this interview many times and on both sides of the aisle.. first time I watched it is when I was leaning more towards her ideas of patriarchy (I was a hardcore left wing feminist back then).. as time goes by, everytime I rewatched this interview, its become clear to me that she tend to win the argument instead of try to understand and listen.
@@AnitaDollar please stop
I have worked in abuse recovery ministry here in America. And let me tell you, it’s just that most men don’t report rape, molestation, etc. Or even talk about it. So she had no clue what she’s talking about.
I love Jordan Peterson.
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I appreciate you are saying this
Interesting statement! How'd you know that is the case tho if they are not reported? Not trying to be smart but i'm actualy curious.
@@Pakiezel I'm just theorising but I'd assume it's got something to do with "face" so to speak. Societally speaking, a man would probably be looked down upon for being taken advantage of by someone as it's not very "manly".
Plus I personally know a few folk who have been but never reported it, it only came out in substance induced conversation
I'm not saying I agree with being less manly, I just know how most of society would see the issue
@@Pakiezel I work in ministry… it’s confidential. ♥️
Stop labeling his videos this way. "JORDAN PETERSON DESTROYS THIS AND THAT" That's not the concept of sharing thoughts and communication. We talk to build, not to destroy.
Titles like these are the reason less people listen to him.
I think something like: Jordan Peterson and feminism narrative.
I agree. This whole, us vs them mentality is ridiculous and takes power away from what's really being explained here.
@Alexis B. There's nothing like disenfranchised, insecure young men seeking validation and living vicariously through youtube videos.
Of Jordan Peterson explains the Concept of our Society
@Alexis B. Didn't like the pills?
Max Rustine Do you know, Max, that Red Skelton the comedian, at the end of his variety show, often said “I come to build not destroy” about his comedy. Beautiful thought brother.
This is the first video I saw of Peterson and I’ve been hooked since. He’s changed my life.
We need more healthy male figures like this for us girls and women to look up to
I agree with you, we need more men like him. But…. there is a good chance when we do begin the process we’d be accused on “mansplaining” or being oppressive.
F it. I guess I’m starting today.
@@albertbrannan4 lol good for you! Healthy men and healthy women
no u need more healthy female figures for you girls n women to look up to, unfortunately for u most women nowadays r blinded by pathetic feminism ideologies
There are great women role models, just not many today....unfortunately most of the good ones are in the past.....there were some wonderful women in my own family when I was a child in the seventies.....God knows what they would make of what young girls are told today.
Roving bands of tyrannical plumbers! 😂😂😂😂😂
MUSHROOM KINGDOM
@@MsZsc 😂😂
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From your username I see you have taste 👌🏼
Mario lol
This person deserves a huge round of applause. 👏👏👏👏👏. He has completely changed my views.
Ofcourse u always had that view. What he said didn't make sense to me at all..
@@beladury3751 smart? In response to women being raped every minute by men in most cases, women being targeted for flesh trading which is mostly organised by men. His response to counter this he says you have most number of men in prison, most no of sucides cases are of men etc was like women were responsible for it lol. Do u have a brain of your own or do u let Peterson do it for u. Compare the atrocities faced by men due to women vs the atrocities faced by women due to men. That would be completely one-sided in favour of women facing the worst. To believe this idiot you either don't have a brain of Ur known or u have been hypnotised.
@@beladury3751 to u spreading hate is called smart.
@@beladury3751 that's the most stupid come back ever How does that prove its not a male dominated society? When u have most of the atrocities committed on women by men n don't c much improvement in that for years..u still have women raped Nothin much is done abt it.. u still have women restricted to get out of the House.. u still have people deciding what women should wear instead of having men control their own equipments..
@@beladury3751 I think ur just too ignorant. People like Jordon Peterson use their intellectual to sell their shit to ignorant people like u. He clearly knows what he is doing but he just wants to sell his shit..
I could listen to this man 24/7 I absolutely love him! He is so eloquent and lest face it, correct in what he says I literally spend hours just listening to him, he has a beautiful mind. I wouldn’t however get into a discussion with him 🤣 she’s brave!
I just can't get enough of Jordan Peterson, this person is absolutely magnificent in his arguments and even when they try to put words into his mouth that he never said or meant, he is able to argue correctly and shed light into the conversation. I admire him and I hope most men and women see the good in his words and listen carefully to what he's got to say, because we've been believing and educating wrong for decades and this needs to change.
I agree with JP on some things and disagree with him on other things. At least he is creating a dialog for people to discuss in a civilized manner.
100% agree with everything you said. Just one teenytiny detail... just coz he talks nice and puts his arguments well, doesn't mean he is talking gold. Never surrender critical analysis just coz the other person sounds like he knows better.
I discovered Peterson during lockdown 2020, I've listened to several hours of him. One of the great thinkers of the last 30yrs.
We'd get so much further into this world if we were all as articulate as him. Most of us aren't able to stay calm and think of the perfect things to say under pressure.
@@anjalikndwl and I wouldn't take the words of a scummer either, so why would I believe you instead of him
"Men and women throughout history have fundamentally cooperated to push back against **the absolute catastrophe of existence**." How I like that phrasing.
Actually that was the only wrong thing he said. He was spot on analyzing the western society and explaining how competence is different than power, but to look back at the medieval times(or any other time in history except the last century) and say that men and women cooperated on the same level is pure nonsense. Women had literally no rights or opportunityes back then, therefore it wasn't a cooperation between equal beings:it was patriarchy.
@@justthunderbolt40 I would say that is wrong. Men and women made tradeoffs, and many of the privileges men were given burdened them with heavy obligations, and women got a hell of a lot of entitlements and protections for the things they gave up. I can't honestly say the typical woman back then would have likely wanted to trade places. Indeed, studies of happiness and quality of life have traditionally had women coming out on top.
The fundamental problem with the historical patriarchy argument is that it assumes power is MERELY power. But power, socially constrained within a community, comes at a cost, and actually takes the freedom to do certain things away. So it's really not immediately obvious who got the better deal when you look back soberly at history.
@@BaremetalBaron Surely men had heavy obligations and dutyes to fulfill, such as being always available for the lord to call as levy in a war;however, wars were also opportunityes to become either rich raiding enemy towns and villages, or either managing to capture an enemy lord and being knighted for this. War was hell, but also a way to improve their position.
It's right to say that power doesn't only come in strength in a civilized society, however the daughter of a farmer had nearly 0 possibilities to improve her position or to change her life:she would continue to clean the house and raise the childrens after marrying someone of the village. She could not learn any profession, nor marry a noble.
They may be happier because they had more security than men, but this doesn't mean that they had the same opportunityes.
@@justthunderbolt40 Fair enough, you're probably right that they had less agency to shape their lives. My point was just that many of the things they lacked (such as voting) had a corollary burden (civil service and conscription) that they weren't required to take on. Voting is a great example, because when polled, the vast majority of 19th century American women didn't WANT the vote because they didn't want to give up certain freedoms they already enjoyed in exchange for the responsibilities of service. So it's difficult to look at that as oppressive when many of men's rights were merely facilitators of their ability to provision and protect women.
Also, the notion that women couldn't learn any profession is simply incorrect. There were trade guilds for female blacksmiths all the way back in the 14th century, and plenty of women were brewers or tavern owners or weavers.
@@BaremetalBaron I didn't know about the female guilds, thanks for the information. Voting is an excellent example to show that often we value security over freedom,but in medieval times neither men had the luxury to choose their lord, unless they rebelled against him.
Gotta respect her for letting him speak. Sadly that kind of appropriate behaviour is not at all a common thing with feminists
He's Jordon Peterson.
Any person sitting infront of him will automatically get intimidated and shut up.
That's because most of them can't actually argue. They don't HAVE a winning argument, so their only hope is to bully the other person into submission. Well, I don't think Lewis's argument is "winning" either, but at least it's a proper structured set of ideas. She's head and shoulders more competent than Cathy Newman, but in fairness that's not really Newman's job, so...
I absolutely love this man, he never takes an argument without completely deconstructing it.
Nah, he's a walking pile of crap.
Lol its funny, at work when my women coworkers say: “can you do this, this is men’s work.” I’m like:” Hey I thought you women wanna be equals.” And then they stare at me, speachless.
Destroyed Obliterated
You fucking DETROYED those gals with FACTS and LOGIC
Imagine if you asked them to do women's work.
They dont see how sexist they are, then they complain that we'd be complaining
All human beings are equal but we have different roles to an extent
Mr Peterson seems to believe that males suffer a lot of things emotionally that females do not. - he is wrong there
You know what I love about Jordan Peterson, he knows that these guys don’t listen and remain clouded with emotion, but he still does his job by sending his point across.
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Fun fact 85% of women whole are raped is recorded while 98.9% of of men who are raped goes unrecorded. So if everything is taken of a 100 ratio. For every 100 women who are raped, 85 of them will be reported while nearly 99 of the 100 men who are raped will go unrecorded. So the ideology that women are raped much more than men is only because men don’t report it for a number of reasons. So who’s really oppressed in that sense?
I was banned from facebook for sharing this video. Ill share it everywhere that i can. Ill make bew facebook accs and post it.
Who needs Facebook? I'm not banned from it, but I haven't even logged on for years. It's worthless. So is Twitter (pardon me - X), TikTok, and all the rest of such things that encourage the most superficial elements of our personalities.
I agree with Jordan 100% but mad respect to the interviewer for letting him talk and not interrupting him every 2 seconds
So you are saying that women don't deserve voting rights?
@@DrakeRing watch the video again then come back to me....
Watch the whole 2 hrs interview, it's just the Peterson's logic that doesn't let her speak
Yeah Oprah does that
Don't be fooled just because she was quiet . There is a "post interview" discussion where Peterson reviews the entire meeting, including the discussion they had prior to recording, which was not pleasant. Fact is, she was not expecting him to absolutely wipe the floor with her, and she was quiet only because Peterson gave her a good telling off. :-)
the most chocking part is the woman not interrupting the man lmao
*shocking
@@J28573 maybe he's choking when he's in shock
@@kroatos606 😂😂
I'm not so shocked cause he won't even let her have a word in
@@AnitaDollar have you seen the entire interview or even the end of this video? She also cuts him off. Also she’s an idiot lol
The best part is when she goes "I don't. I really don't, please go on"
*that's* how you debate, folks. She was genuinely interested in what he had to say and respected him by not interrupting him (as did he). This gives me hope in humanity
@Underlord Not as much as the majority of JP's dialectical opponents
“Almost no women rape men.”
“Almost no one cares when women rape men.”
Fixed it.
Wdym
@@Sukunasenpai-p4n
That people do not care
about it happening to men
& act like it doesn't exist.
What she should have said was that "Women are raped by men must more frequently than the converse," and that I figure is probably true. "Almost" is a really ambiguous word.
If rape is per definition penetration with genitals, it is impossible for women to rape. That does not mean that women cannot perform sexual misconduct, or be violent.
Yes. As others have pointed out, by law, they can only SA men in the UK. The same in other places around the world, and in any case, in the vast majority (if not all) of the world, no prosecutor is going to take on the case. For some reason, we're supposed to be very concerned about what would happen if someone was convicted of a crime against a man... would that suddenly stop a bunch of ladies coming forward and reporting crimes against them? Never hear about lack of convictions and men failing to come forward...
"Roving bands of tyrannical plumbers" 😂😂😂😂
Undoubtedly, the most sensible human being of our generation.!!!!!!!!
This woman cheated on her husband 😂😂😂😂😂
Did she really?
What's her name?
@user-ns5yn8ux2u Helen lewis, and yes she did 😂
Thank you JP and respect to the interviewer for listening.
There's where that woman is wrong when she says no man gets raped,,, very very misinformed
Fr, including prison population men are raped more than women
She didn't say that - she said "almost." Which I still think was a poor way of phrasing it, but it wasn't an absolute claim.
I want to scream!!! I’m saving this and will listen to it forever
Its almost an year of watching and reading jordan peterson, and i see how my vocabulary has increased drastically.
He is the master of vocabulary.
I keep watching this. It so strong and clear.
It's not all that difficult to destroy the feminist narrative. Just throw facts at them. JP does it quite well.
The difficulty lies in the way they express and often twist and manipulate the narrative. Usually when you counter an argument, the woman/opposing person will say "yeah but this, this and this, so therefore it's obvious" and all you end up doing is defending against their ever-morphing rationale which plays out as you are constantly on the defense which portrays you as being on the losing side.
JP is very good at his rebuttal, but women are very very crafty. My ex wife used to do it to me all the time. To paraphrase, a typical argument would go along the lines of "you don't love me because you never do this", to which I would feel compelled to rebuttle with "well actually I do that all the time and here are my examples". That then morphs into "well you always do this other thing as well so clearly you don't love me" and so it continues on a neverending path of justification that is completely ignorant of any facts or truth whatsoever. And if I simply said "I do love you" then I'd get the rationale of something like "well you don't show it, you always do this" and on and on it goes, deeper into the rabbit hole.
JP totally nails it in this one, but he's still fighting a losing cause. She'll never agree. Only his viewers and followers will ever agree.
Leroy30 the problem with your ex is self esteem and needing oh I love you so much and im glad you are not like her and her im just so glad you are awesome because I couldn’t live without you when in reality you were doing fine before you met and she was the one that has the inability to do anything about her own self esteem so it must be because you don’t love her lol I think I just got a bit dumber after trying to think like a woman lol
@@leroy30 you are the one that will forever lose by thinking theres no point, and by generalizing all women into this type of thinking. You are doing exactly what those toxic feminists do, generalize a whole gender based on the negative characteristics/actions/thoughts of the small amount of men they've encountered or heard of
i mean, he destroyed nothing
@@matheuscruz2395 I know. Feminism is nothing.
I would like to see him debate a top academic feminist. With both sides given equal time to talk.
do you want to see him debate a zizek, acommunist? if you have 3 hours to spare, you can watch peterson get dominated by a slovenian dumpster raccoon: th-cam.com/video/lsWndfzuOc4/w-d-xo.html
The feminist would still lose lol.
@@Monkofthecaribbean - like you know.
There are no top academic feminists. They have understood that our society is about competence, not sex, and therefor dont need handouts because of their genitalia
‘Roving bands of tyrannical male plumbers...’ this is why we love JP!
They both seemed very polite and considered each other points with a very calm rational
Both of them understand that winning an argument by bully tactics isn't winning at all.
I absolutely love how eloquent he is and how careful he is in setting up is rebuttal.
Next time the power goes out after a storm, the sewer is blocked, the buildings have fallen, and the farmers fields need to be tended to, lets just sit on our hands and complain about men
KingHill yes
KingHill lol we would starve and we know it
P.O. M.E - What the hell is your point? The OP’s original comment was suggesting that the base infrastructure jobs are maintained by men. And your first comment is about who raises them? The question itself seems that you’re suggesting that these men were raised by women, which is why you got your first smarmy, but justified, response that they were raised by men and women. From here this comment chain devolves into a pointless, rambling escapade from you continually trying to reinforce some narrative living your head about family structure. The other guy tried to provide information to you about the average family household in the US and all you did was obfuscate and throw facts in quotes to try and devalue the information he provided. You then feebly tried to suggest that there were many variables to consider......of course there are! No family is the exact same, and yes there are large percentages of aberrant family structures that don’t match the healthy, nuclear family standard. But again, what are you even trying to say, and how does it relate to men holding the mast majority of infrastructure jobs?
P.O. M.E - Then your implied point is something that I, and Toastman I believe, would agree with. But that isn’t all you were trying to do. If it were, his first response to you of ‘Men and women’ would have satisfied your desire to recognize both sexes’ contributions to raising young men. But instead you provided a provacative response about Dads leaving the family more often. Toastman even replied once more affirming his belief that both parents provide equally important contributions to child rearing which, again, is supposedly what you’re trying to communicate. Men and women need each other, right? Instead of acknowledging this you pivoted and deflected to family demographics which has nothing to do with your core point. Stop pretending you clearly communicated anything, or that you did so with innocent intentions about men and women needing to respect each other. No one here is denying that. Yes, the OP’s comment was a gibe about women who complain or overlook male contributions to society, but that doesn’t mean it was untrue. Nor does it mean he doesn’t understand the necessity of female involvement in family or society. You act as if because he made this comment he doesn’t value women by default, and as a result you tried to teach some other guy a lesson in male/female contributions. Do you not see the futility of how you’ve responded here? Please, do us a favor and just stop.
P.O. M.E - ‘men and women’ wouldn’t even make sense in the context of OP’s comment. That was purely a reply to you from Toastman, but if you haven’t comprehended the difference by now then what point is there discussing further. Especially since you predictably resorted to personal attacks and cussing. And judging by your comments, I’m not the one with delicate emotions. “Real men.” lol.
This guy keep on improving my mental health! :)
That's the result of feeling grounded. Happy for you bro. Accepting that not everything can be controlled is the the best feeling.
So many of Peterson's messages are things that young men used to just absorb via cultural osmosis. The need for them to be stated explicitly - and the associated elevation of the man who does that to hero status - has been made necessary by the perpetual "tearing down" of young men that our culture has devolved into. I am so happy I was born when I was. I'm 61 years old, and I'm not sure how many years later I could have been born and not been caught in that trap myself. I think I rode through during the last few years of relative sanity. It had "begun," but it hadn't become dominant yet.
He’s brutal here and brutally honest. Brilliant segment.
As always , factual and unambiguous truth put into poetry, I actually think the young lady appreciates the education and awakening to the facts over all the fiction .
jp should have a primetime show called listen and learn! a brave and highly intelligent man.
That end statement was by far the most satisfying thing I’ve heard
Thank you JP for articulating one of the most vicious lies of our time. Few ideas have been more successful in driving a wedge between men and women at a time when we need each other more than ever
Men built everything. We should accept this.
Yep and they are given birth by women ... No women no men, no men no women .
There's a great bit of internal monologue in The Stand (Stephen King) by the character Fran Goldsmith. The plague has wiped the slate clean, and it's all going to have to be rebuilt. And she's musing that in the editorial offices of Ms. magazine there should have been a plaque thanking men for building the world in which women could declare that they no longer needed men. Because I'll tell you, Frannie figured out RIGHT FAST that she needed a man in the new savage post-plague world.
A man with the a great as well as true perspective about male patriarchy according to me
A woman with an open mind to listen and a correct interviewing ethics
I Respect both ✌🏼
Really like this guy! Such a great mind, God bless his soul
Love him so much... ❤️ He s just stating the truth...
He should have asked her to respond to his points and consider if we have been sold a lie.
Live long and prosper good sir. And continue to preach the gospel of logic and reasoning.👌🏽
Good! I’m glad to know some people are still able to think straight
Love Peterson and I respect the fact that this woman stayed calm and didn't let her emotions take over the conversation. This is what you often see in a debate, when one points out other's errors and misconceptions they tend to get angry and agressive.
You didn’t watch the whole interview did you
@@jrr3944 I did and he was masterful.
Could be she didn't have any counter argument, Her best bet was" There is almost no females who rape men" . To her defence she had never heard anybody defend against the patriarchy narrative that well so she was caught out.
That's what happens when a person realizes they're being beaten and they have no idea how to continue their fight. At least Lewis knows her way around a debate platform.
“A roving band of tyrannical plumbers!”
😂😂😆🤣😂 Kudos to JORDAN PETERSON!
Comic relief has huge value in ANY tense situation.
I would've liked to hear more from the woman
Look up the whole interview on British GQ
If the woman talked more, it would have been utter nonsense. Check out the British interview if you want
@@shuhaoliu5474 I think what the problem is is that he keeps interrupting her. Yes he has good shit to say but let her finnish
Well, I'm sure she's got material online somewhere - you can probably find it.
awesome discussion Prof Peterson.
#ShowMenSomeLove 💜
#RespectMen 💙
#HappyInternationalMensDay 💚
#NotAllMenAreSame 💛
#MenAreAlsoHumans ❤
“Woman do more unpaid labor” like what? Cleaning the house when we’re at work?
Given you'd have to hire a servant to do that work if the women wouldnt be there, yes.
@@akanksharaturi3997 no id come home from work and clean up myself, if my (spouse) was not there. sounds like women just wanna be lazy, like get a job and most guys will have no problem helping around the house, to me it sounds like women want to be rewarded by there laziness by not helping out around the house. then expect us males to spend money on you women. delusion at its finest
Hay I clean I cook it’s not just women
BAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHHA
@@akanksharaturi3997 damn... you just got rekt lol
Still have to give some credit for how polite the interviewer was, she didn’t scream, interrupt him, insult him, etc and she also accepts to hear his opinion
that should be normal
This guy is just incredible… great to listen to the intelligent person as he is.
she is now a BBC radio presenter, of the worst kind.
Way Ta go Jordon! You nailed it once again.... As usual! Great work! Many thanks and many blessings to you!
Quietest and yet Loudest "Mic Drop" in recent history...
Finally a man who stands up for a man..
This is why I love this guy! Jordan Peterson, you're a legend!
Peterson Rockzzz......!!!!
Logic vs nothing: Mr. Peterson RULES!!! 🔝🔝🔝😀😀😀
Why?
@@teambulbo, because numbers and facts don't lie. And don't care about feelings (cit. Ben Shapiro) 😊...
I dont see any logic between pointing out that there are more men in prison and claim that there is no patriarchy. Men are in prison because they commited crime, that is totaly irrelevant for feminism, yet this hero of all bricklayers repeats it all the time :D
Not everything can be entirely logical as is morality. If you always go with "utilitarianism" then you might be tough as hell to deal with any possible disadvantages that might get inflicted on you.
"Nothing" that's why other refrained from listening to some men because they dont give consideration to the opinions of others. A good leader doesn't fully invalidate others' opinion regardless if that other is male or female.
This men is a legend we needed someone like him to spoke for us
why r u always using verb2
learn english first
So good! Without our men we are nothing and vice versa. God created us to work together not against.
Interviewer did a great job. Absolute professionalism. She should speak like this inorder to get the complete view of Peterson about patriarchy
This is a civil debate, loved it. That's how debates are done. Let others complete their point and then respond and not react taking one sentence or word of the whole conversation.
Watch the whole interview, this was not a civil debate...
Big words,
Not letting other speak,
Picking on small things of others speech and saying it wrong
Having no emotional guilt
That's How you win an argument
For your info by no means I say that it Is wrong btw
and have a fundamentally good argument to begin with ... you forgot that one
The fact that wealth and capital are not very different from each other, shows that she had nothing else to say, which already makes her argument very weak.
Exactly my thoughts, and she also verbalised it as if she’s going to give a big list of reason but instead she spoken the same thing twice
Extremely well said
Boom. One of the best answers I’ve seen recently on this nonsense called feminism. This is what happens when the left actually lets the right complete their sentences.
'This nonsense called feminism' huh? Why don't you tell me exactly what you think feminism is.
@@shaunakullden493 men hating lesbian
true...
I have about 10 years working in IT, 4 different jobs, and in all of them I've had female bosses.
This is the most concise, accurate and insightful articulation of all that is horribly wrong with modern feminism that I have ever heard
The sad thing is that up to a point the feminists had legitimate grievances. It really WAS the case that women were long discriminated against in the workplace. It was appropriate for us to take steps to address that. The problem is that the crazies came in and hijacked the program and just ran away with it, and the bad outcome for women is that the legitimate issues got lost in that. Because now when we hear "feminist" it's not those valid issues we think about - it's the nutty stuff.
@KipIngram entirely agreed. The terms used now on college campuses are "1st wave (legitimate) feminism," " 2nd wave," "3rd wave," etc. I believe current feminists believe themselves to be part of the "8th wave"
Kudos to the woman. She is an exceptional journalist. Irrespective of her opinions. People need to learn from her
I cannot love this guy anymore than I already do. He is a champion NOT only for men but for society as a whole.
I watched this video three times and feels good. :)
imagine Jordan Peterson & Ben shapiro in one room 😂😂 facts & Logic Rumble
Tbh
Jordon was on the Ben Shapiro Show.
@@aaryanshroff link please
imagine being the poor cameraman who has to get them both in the same frame lmao
They were both part of the briefly popular "Intellectual Dark Web." Along with Sam Harris and the Weinstein brothers.
I have thought about a lot to make a statement against male dominance but they turn out to be just stupid excuses. This man just made the best and boldest most accurate statement I have ever heard.
Most rape victims are also men when considering prisons…
I didn't get your point. The rapists are the ones who go to jail if proven guilty and if appropriate action is taken against them. So what do you mean '"Most rape victims are also men when considering prisons"? If they are in jail it's because they raped not because they got raped unless someone misused their power to put them in jail for getting raped which is absurd and WRONG.
@@Lisa-sg1of That’s assuming he is talking about rapists. My guess is he is referring to the general population in prison where the strong prey on the weak. Prison rapes aren’t just exclusive towards punishing rapists, it can also happen to other prisoners.
@@Lisa-sg1of his point is Jim’s prison name is Gina. And he’s open access, and now a b**** , to multiple men in jail. He does this or else he will be taken care of. This is common in prison regardless of the mans sentence.
@@Lisa-sg1of he means men raping other men in prison.
@@Lisa-sg1of
That's just wrong because
Many men get falsely accused.
1:10 “But there are almost no women who rape men.” Really??? Have you ever seen what happens to men in divorce??? 🤷🏻♂️
Also teachers grooming students.
Thank you sir! Love from India.
Isn’t any feminist going to say he is “mansplaining” her? Your blood got to be boiled by now.
I sent this video to my daughter and my son in law; I have great respect for both. I have a two-year-old grandson and Jordan Peterson can articulate what I want my grandson to know. Thank you.
@frog the cringe hunter that means so much, thank you and may God bless. We speak the same language.
He distroyed her
No he didn’t destroy her. He destroyed himself. He interrupted her, he didn’t listen to her. He talked over her. His behaviour towards her proved the very thing that he unsuccessfully ‘argued’ against.
@@kiwitube123 some one is crying 😢 😂😂
Debating against this guy on any subject will make me crap my pants. His language is extraordinary.
Oh God - not one of us in a thousand would stand a chance. I feel kind of the same way about Ben Shapiro, though his skills in argument are quite different. Peterson is much more likable.
Dr. Peterson: You are simply one of the most eloquent and well read educators around. I am so happy that you are standing up for mens rights against this baseless modern wave of feminist ideology.
I am a women and I completely agree on everything he said. Treat both gender equal and the people on earth.
Thank u!
My man spitting facts
So what he said that the patriarchy doesn’t exist
This speech from Jordan Peterson is something what people need to hear these days. Im 100% with Jordan Peterson.
Peterson is the MAN!!!! Makes me proud to be one, pretty much every time he opens his mouth.
Perfectly said, Proff 👍
If his argument was as strong as you would like it to be, please also show the counter argument. These two (seeming both intelligent) people were having a respectful dialog/discussion. I’m a feminist but was very much open to watch this video and listen to what he had to say. Thats how I try to learn. Just listening to what we want to hear, only reinforces our own point of view, keeping us narrow minded.
Agreed. Let s not get stuck in an echo chamber. I watched the whole interview, it s on TH-cam you can watch it too, and trust me (or not, you can watch it by yourself) Jordan completely won the argument. It was like in this small clip throughout the whole interview. Sorry for my English, it is not my first language.
agreed
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Thank you so much for such a sane response.
Something that came across as clear was that the interviewer was (in essence) reading from an idealogical script that was exposed as weak in the face of factual reasoning.
Using the example of male on female rape (a truly wicked and abhorrent act ) was a perfect example of this and was (to use an analogy) clutching at straws to save the haystack of her general argument falling down.
The intelligence of your own observation demonstrates the awareness that we live in a desperately unhealthy and confused time where slogans hostile rhetoric are casually thrown around in preference to open listening and thoughtful consideration of opposite view points.
Disagreement with the prevailing ideology’s has been labelled as hate speech and forbidden.
One doesn’t have to go back far in history to see that adopting this social framework is a precursor to disaster.
Again. I found your reasoned response a breath of fresh air.
Thank you.
Nah she basically said no women rape men which is bs, the double standard agenda people like her push is a huge problem within society.
Shouldn't that speech end feminism?How can feminists argue with that and be taken seriously?
if you wnat to end equality bro go on. feminism is equality just fucking get over it allready!
@@dulinapeduru3500 equal opportunity is a myth right now, ofcourse the most qualified ones are the ones who should be in positions of power, but do you think these positions are occupied only (except for very few exceptions) by men, because these men are more qualified and smart than certain women? no, it’s because women do not have easy access to those places due to stereotypes that have long lived. patriarchy up until a century ago IS a fact, so it is only reasonable that some remnants are still here from those times
@@christineris9544 Baloney. Feminism today is absolutely NOT about equality. Please point to feminists campaigning for equality in divorce cases, child custody cases, number of graduates in Western universities. How many feminists campaign for women to occupy 50% of jobs in road-sweeping and sewage treatment plants? Your entire argument is based on a premise that is demonstrably false.
To be honest i dont understand what is he trying to say, so it is hard to argue with him. What the problem is that there are more men in prison. They commited crimes, so they are in prison, right? Should i feel sorry for them? Problem is when women want to get to leading roles and it must be for many reasons hard if they are minority in leading roles. And he must know it as a psychologist, but does not open it, only says some irrelevant things.
@@ŠárkaNovotná-g4t more men are in prison,yes because they commit crimes,but what he's referring to,if you're unaware is that a woman will get a more lenient sentence for commiting the same crime as a man and hence the reason why less women are in gaol.So should they give women the same gaol sentences as men for commiting the same crimes in the name of equality?
Also,people should earn their way in life and achieve their positions based on merit,not because of a woke diversity quota policy.
Men are in higher positions on average for a multitude of reasons,merit being a big one,choice of occupation being another.
Man I LOVE this guy he’s a legend