The BEST Logitech brake mod! AXC True Brake
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ส.ค. 2024
- The Logitech Pedal set is decent enough with the brake pedal. However the AXC Truebrake takes it to another level
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I have this mod and it bettered my laptimes. More consistant in braking. I ordered all 3 springs (40,60,80) and am currently very happy with the 60 on play seat challenge. I also have the potentiometer for the gas pedal from the same firm. No more opening the pedals to clean everything. It also has a higher resolution. Can highly recommend these upgrades.
Does the axc potentiometer have higher res ? Up from 8bit? And does that translate to Xbox?
What gives you the idea that the potentiometer has higher resolution than the stock pot? Everything in the pedal box is analogue electronics. The quantisation occurs inside the wheelbase.
@@Catcrumbs sorry. I wrote that wrong. It's a hal sensor. Says it has higher res but as if you say the wheel base is responsible, I guess I am wrong. Main point is that you don't have to clean the stock pots.
@@germankiwi4588 AXC's description of their products say they use potentiometers. If you search 'membrane potentiometer' you will find components similar to those used in AXC's pot kits. AXC's own diagrams are clear that the transducer in the TrueBrake is a linear potentiometer.
@@Catcrumbs i stand corrected
I got these AXC mod and the results are significant. I used to be 3 seconds off the pace of the fastest guys on Gran Turismo with the regular setup. After I installed the AXC kit, I was more consistent in my lap times and now I am regularly not more than 1.5 seconds of the fastest guys. It's really that good of an upgrade trust me. I haven't used a load cell before so I can't really compare until I get my gt did pro
The AXC mod is definitely worth it. If you're not quite ready to drop a butt-load of money on higher spec pedals, it's the perfect holdover until then. My braking was so much more consistent with it after getting familiar with the feel, which took almost no time.
I had their older version and it was great. I ended up going to Fanatec V3 inverted pedals and I gave it to a friend. His times improved immediately.
I had this (before upgrade to load cell) and it definitely was a big, big improvement
Great review, I have one of these and it was a game changer. This mod massively helped me improve my lap times and consistency. No brainer, buy a truebrake👍😁
I had it before buying my LC, and I can tell you it is really good. In my opinion, it is worth every penny considering that other upgrades will cost around 30 squid, and it doesn't perform even close to the Truebrake mod.
Good video and a great piece of kit, it fully deserves your praise for it, and well worth the money in my opinion , this mod has stopped me spending ££££££ on upgrading to Fanatec for now😀
Totally agree. I can see why. If I had a logitech set, It would be a difficult decision to upgrade, Unless its V3 or above.
Cool, just ordered this and very excited to install it. Not happy with the stock Logitech brake pedal when playing AC. The pedal does tighten up after a lot of travel where you are able to modulate the pressure consistently, though some cars will lock up even before you reach this point. Though in other games with less emphasis on realism you need close to 100% brake pressure to even start slowing the car. For these games the stock pedal is not too bad, maybe even too hard when it's new.
I'm especially researching some brake upgrades for my G25/27 because it feels too linear. I remember winding the spring tighter my old Driving Force Pro that made the brake have more resistance the more it travels so I could get a better feeling of where lock up zone is.
Progressive spring, like g923 pedals now use, is the cheapest mod for a good feel of older logitech pedals. It is available from gteye for example, but they also exist on aliexpress now if that's your thing.
ricmotech also has a load cell mod. not sure of the difference in price between the 2 companies tho
amazing that this could work on a g27
I did my accelerator and break pedal, now ime busting all my previous lap times.😊
Nice shoes btw
have you tried this on the clutch and gas pedals!?
Also Recommended is Ricmotech's LC27-3 70LBs Load cell conversion Upgrade kit V3 for Logitech G Series Pedals 100% Recommend the Ricmotech mod
Looks like they have lowered the price quite a bit since this video. They sell them for $58 now
I've got the TrueBrake pedal on my G25 and really like it. However, I decided to order the new Fanatec CSL LC pedals to allow me to connect them to my CSL Elite wheelbase. Hopefully they are just as good as the TrueBrake in terms of feel.
you lose resolution in the pedals if you connect them through your wheelbase, its better to just use the USB connection instead of the RJ12.
@@isaacwest Thanks for the tip. I was running a Bodnar cable with my G25 pedals which also added some resolution over when I was using them with the G25 wheelbase.
I made this transition between Logitech Truebrake and fanatec CSL LC, and I tell you it's pretty close the feeling, the LC is slightly better.
When the mod is more expensive then the pedals lol this is game changer for Logitech users.
Is there anything like this in the states? shipping is pretty expensive from their site, its half the cost of the mod.
Excellent quality mod and equally excellent service from Rob at AXC 👍.
Can u use different pedals on the ps4 with the g29
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have you tried this load cell on the gas pedal and the clutch pedal!?
Not needed for the accelerator an
Hi, what about the firmware brake curve ? Should I also buy an USB adapter to connect the pedals directly to the PC ?
You can try it without but being able to properly calibrate it and not have to try and account for a different curve through a portion of the pressure sure makes life easier, leo bodnar one works great
@@SamSkjord Hmm I see, I wonder I shouldn't buy the Fanatec CSL pedals with the loadcell kit instead of modding the G29 pedals
I just fell right down the rabbit hole and ended up with Heusinkveld Ultimates.....The End......after Madcatz, Thrustmaster x3 and then Fanatec showed me the way to the hole
What's the difference between the stock pot and this AXC pot? I have a similar throw/weight on my G920 brake pedal with the way I modded it and the stock pot still works fine for me. Would probably only consider this if it adds more "DPI"/resolution than the stock pot to make up for the lost travel.
my AXC pot was sticking on 100% (they sent out a replacment for free)
while waiting for that I pluged the stock pot back in while still using the AXC mod, the feel is the same but you have way less range of values as it only uses about 1/5th of the throw
@@SamSkjord This is a good sign that it does add more "DPI". Basically more pings per distance traveled which is why the stock Logitech pot moved less. So definitely gonna give this a try.
@@blindaceg Yep, that plus the Leo Bodnar adaptor is 10bit vs... I forget what the logitech is. Should give far more resolution in pedal position, not that I'm at all fast enough to notice
Great video ! I'm still debating getting some kind of elastomers fo r my TKCM pedals , so if you here of some quality ones let us know . Thx for the content #DaleYeah
Would this work on console since you can't recalibrate the brake?
Yes. No recalibration required
@@randomcallsign thanks. That's great news especially with gt7 imminent.
I just hate how close together the Logitech pedals are
How does the 15kg compare to the original in strength?
Way, way harder. Had issues with my pedal set moving when trying to hit 100%, mounted it on some spare plywood to keep it stable
@@SamSkjord great, I’m on a rig so should be fine if I purchase?
@@finbob4589 had already replied but had a link in so it got deleted:
Yeah you'll be fine, I'd reccomend putting the original brake spring in the clutch and the clutch spring in the throttle for a better feel
There's also a 3d printed pedal extension mod on thingiverse that makes the whole thing feel much better but I have had to put the brake spring in the throttle now due to increased leverage
If for a kid do we need the mod brake?
no
This will send him flying off the chair : D
True Brake system is like the best upgrade you can do on a logitech. There is nothing even close to it. There is a Load cell mod, but it's a lot more expensive and harder to assemble, and so the experts say, identical results. There are some nice videos on the "Simracing Garage" channel.
What experts? Isnt identical at all😂
@@nickybarratt Well I take the word of this guy, Barry Rowland.
It's not the same but it acts the same. It does not move. You modulate brake pressure with pedal pressure... that's the point and that's pretty much a fact.
Even if it is a pretty sensitive potentiometer, a load cell (strain gauge) can be more precise, likely more durable, definitely more expensive.
@@84Justino I've used both and the loadcell is better. Simple as
I don't really get what's the problem with the stock pedals? Of course I understand that they register the travel of the pedal, but the resistance is increasing with higher travel. Even a linear spring does this. So in fact, you can already work with certain pedal forces in order to achieve certain brake reactions ...
It is of course possible that this mod is finetuned better, but it shouldn't do anything completely different to the unmodified pedal.
Try a Loadcell, try the stock pedal. Then you'll see
@@randomcallsign that‘s not really an answer… A loadcell reacts more or less only on force, but that‘s not the case with this mod, which only changes the force vs. pedal travel ratio. I mean, correct me when I‘m wrong, that‘s why I‘m asking.
@@SpeedIng80 The load cell, while it may not have much travel, is a huge improvement. You can press, and then press a bit harder and it is much more realistic like applying brakes on a real car. Almost like you feel the brake pads gripping onto the brake rotor much more. Easier to control trailbraking too rather than just by very little resistance and pedal travel.
@@edgarsanchinelli7466 The load cell ist a significant difference, no doubt on that!
My question was: What is the significant difference of this mod, as it does NOT add a load cell?
Its the combination of the linear pot and much stiffer spring inside the housing that gives it a similar feel to a load cell. The stock pedal has a lot of travel before you hit that rubber bump and with this setup u can achieve a much shorter pedal travel allowing you to modulate the brake a bit better. Their website explains it better than I can. I swapped the brake spring to the clutch and clutch spring to the throttle and its overall better in my humble opinion.
Is it really a Truebrake if it doesn't have Trueforce?
Not in my opinion.
Only if you press it with a Truefoot
at the very least you have Truemoney to buy Truebrake
He got them takumi NBs on
Jesus Christ, it had better be a great mod at 55 bleeding pounds. I bought my first wheel and pedal set for that price...
here in brazil that is very cheap, an used g27 is more than 200 euros
With the Chinese companies popping up all the time with very affordable, quality sim gear I'd be looking more to Sim Jack for example and the like with true load cell and much better build quality with 3mm stainless steel everywhere and none of this plastic crap. Why upgrade junk when you can replace with proper sim gear for the same money?
one mans junk is another mans treasure. With that logic, why buy simjoaquim when I can get a proper pedal set from a good brand?
Spent your money the way you want to spend it. This product makes sense to a lot of people. Not so much alibaba pedals
Its not the best mod though.. Mvhstudios mod beats this hands down... I've had both and theres no comparison!
The mod is worth more than i payed for the entire wheel set.
Yea nah, just get better fullsetup, this is a waste of time especially when i consider how crap the wheel itself is, this linear spring travel and lack luster turn in feeling.
Il be getting a t300 RS next with the upgrade pedals, this shit box wheel has served its purpose but is now going to be for the kids PS sessions.
I was told this wheel is a good entry point, and it is but i got bored of it very fast. Its so close to being a toy wheel that it really shouldnt be the goal of anyone looking to take sim racing seriously to buy this wheel.